Hornby Railways R.415 Operating Ore Wagon Set
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- A look at the Hornby Railways R.415 Operating Ore Wagon Set (1978-82) with the help from the R.058 Jinty (1978-79) and R.354 Diesel Shunter (1980-81). Plus some running on the inclined section (almost completed) by the Coronation Scott. All dates are approximate Music Source / Royalty-free Apple loops/Looperman.com
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R.354 Diesel Shunter
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Well done. Watching this series is. a bit like seeing a virtual history of Triang.
Hi, thanks for the complement, its hugely appreciated.
Oscar
As a pro photographer, I couldn't help but notice the early "photoshop" they used in the 1974 catalogue - it seems that they have stuck the coal onto a piece of sellotape so they didn't have to shoot the coal when it was actually falling. But this was exactly the sort of accessory that gave Tri-ang such great play value.
Hi Roger thanks again for watching and pointing out the sellotape, a lovely bit of production.
Stay safe.
Oscar
Hi Oscar. As I said in one of your earlier videos I got one of these for Christmas in about 1971/72. The set I got had a grey hopper wagon and did not include the grey incline piers. It had the red R457 piers. Neither did it have the converter tracks. But was otherwise the same set. Everything looks like it is coming together nicely.
Good morning Gerard, great to hear you had one of these sets, I bet you had many hours of fun with it. There seems to have been quite a few variations of the sets available over the years since its introduction.
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Great fun video. I wonder how many grown-up children had that on there layout in the day. Thanks again Oscar. Looking forward to seeing you next year. Terry
Hi Terry thanks for watching the video and many of the others over the past year it’s hugely appreciated have a great New Year.
Oscar
The elevated section looks so impressive with all the siding in place and those later 3 pillar supports give it a very Victorian look, very light. As for the unloading station, I could watch that for hours :-) I must try to get one, even though there is no place for it on my currently dinky little layout, it is fascinating. ✨😊🎄
Hi Pauline, glad you like the look of the elevated section I think its worked quit well. The coal station eats up quit a lot of space, I was never able to incorporate one in the last layout sadly. I'm looking forward to having more of the point motors hooked up for even more fun.
Have a great New Year.
Oscar
I'm really enjoying watching the layout grow and develop, it has that magical quality of making me want to be in it watching the trains from the station!
Good morning David, thanks for watching and taking the time to write this terrific comment.
Stay safe.
Oscar
I grinned happily at the sight of the coal beans dropping, using the toy as the designers intended and having fun. Loved it.
Thanks Andrew, definitely fun to be had with these toys.
Oscar
What fun! 😁 I’ve waited forty years to see that ore hopper empty into a truck below, thank you so much! You even have the same catalog as me with all the wonderful things I could have had!!! 😁👍 I really wanted the helicopter truck but even as a choke it looked a bit untrustworthy. I liked the idea but couldn’t see it actually working. The mail coach! 🤤 I eventually got the breakdown crane. 🥳 Really good to see the layout develop it looks hours of fun. The coronation looked great pulling its smart coaches up the incline. Really enjoyed this. 😁👍👊😎🎄
Good morning great to hear you enjoyed that. It’s a wonderful fun item. You’re right there are very interesting items in the catalogue! I do have a helicopter car but the helicopter is so fragile I really dare not launch it.
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Hi Oscar ,I got my set from a stall in the Wembley Sunday market it was brand new but was a 1977 release with the fiddly incline piers I paid £5 saved up my pocket money ,I loved it until I could get more pocket money to complete the siding underneath I discharged my coal in to a corgi hales skip lorry ok it was out of scale but to an 11 year old look cool and my shunter was a Lima 09 in pblue but the old incline piers never had provision for sidewalls so always looked a bit unsafe for my train crews hehehehe once the siding was built underneath my blue 47 would pull up with her wagons ,hope you had a nice Christmas and a happy new year ,thanks again for a great year and making Sunday good
All the best ,be safe Mark 👍🏻😊🎅🏼🌲
Good morning Mark sounds like great memories. Its amazing what fun could be had from this great little accessory. I imagine like your self many started without a track underneath and had many hours of fun discharging coal into toy trucks, Tri-ang supplied the original set with a mineral bunker to be placed underneath in absence of a track, a very clever idea as this set would tempt you to acquire more track!
Thanks again hope you are having a great Christmas.
Oscar
This brings back memories, I had the lego style incline pillars which could be quite challenging. The ore wagon was such great play value and reminds you very much of the 'Big Loader' toy sets especially with the extra wagon underneath to collect the load again.
Thanks Graham, great to hear you enjoyed the video.
Stay safe.
Oscar
I always enjoy watching your videos. So many that do model railway would be horrified at the term "Toy Trains" but you are just real and down to earth with it.
Thanks for keeping it real.
Hi Brendan it’s great to hear you’re enjoying the videos and in the context they were intended.
Thanks again stay safe.
Oscar
Oh dear Oscar while watching thi you took me back to 1957 and for Christmas i got that set with the ore hopper the actual wagon was plain grey with no markings but the model coal as you said went everywhere i think we replaced it wit plastic sprue pieces cut from model kits wonderful i just love Sunday and your videos keep safe and well
Good morning Robin, great to hear you had this set along with the great memories to go with it.
Thanks again, stay safe.
Oscar
Yes I was lucky enough to have the green set as a child.
Hi Oscar, one of my fave videos as I’d spend hours playing with this as a kid...when the plastic rabbit droppings were lost in the carpet over time I’d load up the Lego ‘oners’ that just about worked!!!
I’d position my Corgi and Dinky lorries underneath - normally the Ferrymasters Scammel to accept the load (which went everywhere- all part of the fun!!
That seems to be what’s missing in the hobby these days- I loved all of the Lionel style operating accessories...I think Hornby are missing a trick not to reintroduce them to get newcomers back into the hobby!!
Bring back the ducking giraffe!!!
Best wishes for a great 2021:-)))
Good morning Ned, that all sound like great fun, as you say thats the bit which can be overlooked by many involved with the hobby manufactures included. The Lionel items are just something else, I think Tri-ang may have been influenced just a bit by there great range of operating accessories. Have seen this amazing video ruclips.net/video/6hao-TsCw_o/видео.html
Have a great New Years.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, a real shame that Hornby & Co aren’t doing more to attract the younger generation- both my kids grew up on Thomas books and toys but soon lost interest sadly (although as teenagers they still love my 70s Scalextric set!)
The Lionel stuff is amazing...have you got some Triang Battle Space items including that incredible propeller driven engine??
I’ve been looking for one for years- would look great going round that new incline of yours.
Best wishes for 2021- your videos have been a real Sunday treat and the best thing on TV (with the Repair Shop too!!)
All the best Ned
I absolutely love this layout, because the operating items gave it that little extra excitement plus it’s great to see all these items in pristine condition considering the age of some.
Thank you so much! it great to hear you are enjoying seeing the railway develop.
Stay safe.
Oscar
another great video that coronation loco looks stunning, the ore wagon set is a really nice feature and i didnt even realise triang done that, would have been a very nice piece of kit when it came out, they should do something like that in a modern train set to create more interest, thanks for sharing, all the best. Tom
Good morning Tom, its a lovely simple set with terrific play value, others like yourself seem to think something like this is need in the range to add interest and encourage more to the hobby.
Thanks for watching ,glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
I have this set with a red wagon but also have the green. The other day, however I picked up a grey four wheeler but with GRAIN on the side. I also have a long Triang twin bogied hopper wagon with the dumping trap door, too.
Great video takes me back to 1960 when I had Triang train layout, track had grey base and my favourite was Royal Mail coach set with working mail bag pick up and drop automatically, thanks for your videos.
Good morning Peter, great to hear you enjoyed the video. The Royal Mail set was terrific set, some much fun. I've included a link to a video with the Transcontinental R.119 Operating Mail Coach Set (1956-59) on the Grey based standard track.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Nice to see it operating as it should, I got a couple of very badly damaged ones for about 50p
and was able to get the mechanisms in Athearn bogie hoppers and operate them on a scale HO exhibition layout
Hi Michael, glad you enjoyed the video. Nice to hear you made good use of those mechanisms with your Athearn Hoppers.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Evening Oscar. Just the ticket another fantastic update on your what's becoming an incredible layout in it's own right 😄 Never had the unloading set only the wagons. Made my own sort of ramp and cut the sleepers out of the middle from what I can remember 🤔 Take care always a pleasure watching rekindle my childhood lol 😂 Cheers Stevie 😎
Hi Stevie, sounds like some terrific ingenuity there creating your own unloading set up. thanks again for watching glad you are enjoying the videos.
Stay safe.
Oscar
Hello Oscar, that was great. A fantastic operating accessory, I really like those bespoke 3D pier extensions. The high levels all look good with the Sidewalls in place. Very best regards to you
Good morning Mr Snooze, terrific to hear you enjoyed the video. the 3D part solved a problem as I did not have the space to curve the track effectively after the bridge.
Thanks again, stay safe.
Oscar
Lovely Oscar... I've always had a soft spot for the operating ore wagon set. Love how the new layout is coming along. Cheers. (from Australia)
Hi, great to hear you are enjoyed seeing the Ore wagon set in action.
Thanks again for watching as the layout develops.
Stay safe.
Oscar
Ah that brought back memories when I had my OO Gauge layout in my parents house. Can remember those catalogues as though they were yesterday. Happy New year when it comes around. Euan
Good morning Euan, great to hear that brought great memories.
Have a great New year.
Oscar
Elevated section looks superb.
Thank you, glad you like how its developed.
Oscar
Wow, this loooks great. A brilliant design. Amazing operating accessory :-)
Hi thanks glad you enjoyed seeing it in action.
Oscar
Goodness - I'd forgotten the grain hopper - sure Ihad the grey wagon, so I will need to look through my boxes! Brought back many memories, so a big thankyou!
Thanks Ian, great to hear enjoyed the video, hope you find the wagon.
Stay safe.
Oscar
Hi Oscar,
Great video with the ore wagons and loved the shot of the beans dropping onto the camera lens. I have two ore wagons but sadly sixty years ago the budget didn’t stretch to the bridge and piers so a decent helping of imagination was required.
Inclines and bridges all looking superb.
The 08 shunter is a lovely model, I have an HD 2-rail example in nice condition, solid model and great runner.
Good morning Gordon, glad you enjoyed the video. Nice to hear you have a couple of the ore wagons. Imagination I think is all part of the hobby its what drives it at all levels, great fun to be had. The Hornby Dublo 08 Shunter is beautiful model.
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
What lovely things the hopper and ore wagons are. So simple but they work so well. Lovely photography as well. Many thanks as always Oscar,
Good morning Mike great to hear you enjoyed the video. As you say a very simple mechanism and the moulding on as wagons I think it’s really something.
Thanks again.
Oscar
A terrific video Oscar. Great fun! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Oscar
Thanks Oscar, great feature, I'm a real fan of the gravity bridges, I have about eight as a high level section, although I've chaged the rail to Peco, which can cause issues with some stock, but the Triang hopper wagons manage it, I have quite a few now and about four of the later Consett version, when new these came with a little instruction leaflet about modifying the older gravity bridge. Thanks again
Hi Paul, sounds like a great modification. I shall keep a look to for that leaflet it sound interesting.
Thanks again.
Oscar
Great video Oscar I wish hornby would release these sets again because that would get more kids involved with this hobby
Good morning David I think your right a set like this with its simplicity is very engaging which can only be a good thing. It would be great to a fairly robust item like this developed by Hornby for there current entry range.
Thanks again.
Oscar
That's a lot of fun...just how it should be. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you George glad you enjoyed the video.
Take care.
Oscar
A beautiful operating set! Love to see these in action. Thank you!
Thanks Andrew, glad you enjoyed it.
Oscar
A great video with all these trains.
Hours n' hours of fun here... Mine's one of the older sets with Transcontinetal wagon's....You've made me think as I set up a layout for my Grandson He'll need a newer version...Great Film clip Oscar Thank you, layouts really coming on
Hi Paul, sounds like you have an excellent excuse to acquire an updated version. Glad you enjoyed the video, stay safe.
Oscar
Great film, thank you Oscar. It's always lovely to see the detail designed into these 'toys', such as the riveted steel plating on the unloading bridge. The original coal, sometimes seen in photos in the catalogues (even being shovelled !) looks similar to the raw plastic pellets used in the moulding machines. I wonder if that's what it is - I guess there would have been a lot of it about. Great fun, thanks again and best wishes for 2021.
Hi, Peter yes they included some great bits of detail in these models and I think you may be right about the pellets. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
The extensive elevated section on your new layout is seriously impressive! This is a set I had no idea existed, a charmingly simple mechanism that is integrated into the layout seamlessly.
Hi glad you like the way the railway is developing. As you say the unloading set is very simple but effective, many hours of fun.
Thanks again for watching stay safe.
Oscar
Your layout is looking fantastic Oscar.I am really Impressed with the changes of the last few weeks.
Thank you very much! its been great fun.
Oscar
Yes that would make a fantastic re-release, simple but effective, thanks Oscar, keep safe and well
Thanks Jed, others too seem to think Hornby should reintroduce an item like this into the current range.
Stay safe.
Oscar
Hello Oscar and thank you for this new episode on the evolution of your network! Hope Santa has been generous with you! The unloading hopper offers interesting play possibilities.
In the 60s and 70s, in France, Jouef offered an equivalent system. On the other hand, watching the end of your video several times, and seeing the empty wagon jump slightly while leaving, I wondered if this hopper was not passable in only one direction.
Good luck, have a nice end of the year, and take good care of yourself and your loved ones.
Sincerely, from France.
Philippe
Good morning Philippe, Santa did stop by! a video for later I think. Thanks for the information I did not know that Jouef made a similar item I shall have a look on line. Somebody else in the comments has told me about a Tyco product that was available in North America as well. A popular subject it seems.
Have a great New Years, stay safe.
Oscar
Another wonderful video, thanks Oscar!
Thank you Guy glad you enjoyed it.
Stay safe
Oscar
hours upon hours of fun there.... i was trying to work out the shunting moves involved to turn the trains around and empty the hoppers again( and it's not even my train set lol)... well done sir ... inspiration as always... Merry Christmas! ☃️🤠🚂🚃Neil
Thank Neil great to hear you enjoyed the video. Have a great Christmas and New Year.
Oscar
A very enjoyable video Oscar as always. The layout is coming on really well. Happy New Year to you. 🚂
Thank you Nigel glad you enjoyed it have a great New Year.
Oscar
What a very interesting video Oscar plenty of playing time with the ore wagons good to see the old Jinty 0 6 0 hope you had great Christmas the weather over here is cold and wet all the best for next year Mel nz
Good morning Mel had a great Christmas thank you, very quiet. Hope you and your family had a great time. Glad you enjoyed the video definitely plenty of fun to be had this great item. Standard British weather cool and damp at present!
Have a great New Year.
Oscar
I bought one of those 08 shunters around 1979 to get my free Pugh and Co wagon (not sure it's something you've ever mentioned Oscar). Anyway the loco had one of the late x03 motors and it ran so smoothly. That auto uncoupler, once you learnt the knack, was an amazing device to work shunting puzzles with. It's a shame no one has brought out a mainstream remote uncoupling device, it's such a good idea, although of course yo use this one you need to master the stops and starts! Regards Gary
Good morning Gary, it is a lovely smooth motor and gear set up on this diesel shunter. The auto uncoupler can be great fun. I think the American market may have developed the remote uncoupling a little more especially in the bigger scales but I'm sure I've seen video reviews of this feature in HO as well. Expensive I imagine!
Stay safe.
Oscar
The layout is looking excellent
Thank you.
Oscar
loved watching that one . Its better on my 65 inch tv i can see everything close up.im now going to binge watch some of your earlier videos.
Thanks David glad you are enjoying the videos.
Stay safe.
Oscar
great video and a happy new year thankyou leon
Thanks Leon, Happy New Year.
Oscar
Happy new year
Excellent! Wishing you and your family Oscar , a very safe and happy New year for 2021 . Richard .
Happy new year!
Stay safe.
Oscar
Lovely set Oscar, loving the progress on the layout looks good 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.
Oscar
That unloading facility (plus the hopper wagon with the metal underframe) must be one of the few remaining items in the range that go back to the Standard Track era of Tri-ang. The way the wagon unloads is uncannily like how BR eventually developed their merry-go-round unloading methods in the early 1960s.
Good morning Peter, I think you are right that wagon/underframe has been around a long time. Thanks for watching and the information.
Stay safe.
Oscar
Excellent as ever, Oscar. Looking forward to seeing the new layout develop. Hope you had a good Christmas, and all the best for 2021!
Good morning Harold, had a great Christmas thank you, glad to hear you are enjoying the videos.
Have a great new Year.
Oscar
Pretty cool!
Thanks.
Oscar
A fantastic video thank you, a brilliant accessory that I wasn't even aware of! Does make one wonder should a modern day working variant be developed how much unnecessary electrical and digital wizardry would be used!
Hi James, its a surprisingly simple item. But you are right I think there would be big temptation to introduce electronics if were considered as a product today.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Great video oscar the ore set certainly gives you more operating interest, it will be nice when you can get around to electrifying the points. Its great to see the progress i hope at some stage you can get the turntable in to show some of the collection. Nice one my friend.
Regards Paul osman
Good morning Paul, I had always wanted to include an unloading bridge on the last layout but there just wasn't space, I've been working on electrifying the points over the last few weeks and plan to get the grey and black R.408U turntable installed when time permits.
Thanks again for watching, stay safe.
Oscar
That was fun today Oscar. The operating cars (wagons) were something I shied away from as a youngster as they did not seem realistic to me. I did however receive an operating grain wagon as a gift, still have it, and I've since picked up another although the opening door has been altered (or removed, I can't remember which right now.)
Regards, David.
Good morning David, defiantly a fun set. Great to hear you have some of the wagons in your collection. I think there is much later CN Hopper wagon in brown R.1111/R.111CN that seems to have be produced at some point with no operating trap door between 1967-73 just a brown plastic part glued in the its base.
Thanks again, stay safe.
Oscar
Loved seeing the working ore wagon set. Great to see the layout develop too - the elevated line does add a lot of interest to the layout.
Hope you had an excellent Christmas. All the best. Gordon :-)
Hi Gordon, had a great and very quite Christmas, glad you are enjoying the seeing the developments on the railway.
Have a great New Years.
Oscar
Certainly, atfer a look at the 50s, 60s and 70s, the 80s and 90s were a good period for Hornby to improve quality to another level, with new motors and layouts, better detail and good crawl/slow running, in basic 0-6-0 models. I'm pleased with my purchase of this particular Jinty.
Hi there was definitely a change in the quality and controllability of the models in the 80s however it possibly doesn’t look that way for those looking back who are used to today’s models. Great to hear you have the Jinty.
Thanks again for watching stay safe.
Oscar
Awesome dude that’s amazing love those models
Thanks, glad you like them!
Oscar
I had a one of those sets back in the late 80s I bought from George at C & G Models in Darlington (its a coffee shop now)... It was brand new despite being discontinued 5 years.. I found the metal spring on the Consett truck was too stiff and when empty it would trip off the rails when you attempted to reverse it back.. I bought some older grey Triang hoppers from Rolling Stock in North Shields (Its long gone too) with more worn in springs and they where no bother..
Good morning Great to hear you had one of these sets, Rolling Stock in North Shields bears some of the responsibility in starting my collecting habit. Sadly now long closed as you say, I think its a florist now!
Thanks again.
Oscar
Witaj, makieta coraz więcej rozbudowana, robi się coraz ładniejsza, super 👍 pozdrawiam
Cześć, cieszę się, że podoba Ci się sposób, w jaki układ rozwija się i sprawia, że praca nad nim jest świetna. Jeszcze raz dziękuję, szczęśliwego Nowego Roku.
Oscar
Keep posting updates up
I shall certainly try to, thanks again for watching.
Oscar
I was given an the older version of the hopper and bridge. It even comes with a brush \ shovel.
Good morning Darrin that shovel and brush combination is a great little accessory. Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Hi oscar another great video mate I really enjoyed it have a happy new year mate goodbye for now clive
Good morning Clive thanks again for watching have a great New Year, thanks for all support over the past one.
Oscar
Great video Oscar, loving the progress on the layout.
Hope your Christmas went well
Hi Darren had a great Christmas thank you, hope you have a terrific New Year.
Oscar
Another interesting video Oscar. The Coronation Scott with carriages was a joy. I hope you have seen my Coronation Scott video ? Regards Alan in Dover :o)
Good morning Alan, thanks again for watching they are terrific looking models, its great to hear you've had your Coronation locomotive all that time and she's still running well plus she has both her cab handrails which are so oftern missing.
Stay safe.
Oscar
Hi Oscar. Wow, I am so impressed with how you have set up the ore wagon bridge and how neat it looks with the 3D printed extra fittings. I always loved that set when I looked through the early '80s catalogues and when an online auction site came along, I bought one. I wonder if one of those wagons is the later paint finish R732 version? If it is black on the inside, that is what it is. My set has the original internal packaging I think and there is something unusual - the wagon has a plain unlabelled box inside - never seen one like that before. There is also instructions with a simple layout plan. I can send pictures of you like?
Good morning great hear you got yourself one of these sets, thats the problem with looking through old catalogues! but all good fun. The internal packaging sounds interesting I would love to see a scan/pictures of the instruction and the inside of the box oscarpaisley.triangchannel@gmail.com Some sets I've read were made up of separately boxed items within a box. I think at some point Hornby used temporary unprinted boxes due shortages and/ uncertainty on the future of the business.
Thanks for watching, stay safe.
Oscar
Superb to watch Oscar.
Good morning Philip great to hear you enjoyed the video.
Stay safe.
Oscar
Great bit of entertainment, I could imagine some carnage if you were to try multiple wagons and got it all out of sync. The Coronation Scott looked great I need to get some crimson versions of those coaches to go with my Duchess of Hamilton.
Hi, Rob, I had been thinking about multiple wagons and trying to line them up one after another! perhaps something for the new years. Those coaches to go with your Duchess have become very expensive. I missed out a few times a couple of years ago when I got the Tri-ang Hornby King George they were silly money then! maybe one day.
Oscar
That crane and boom tender set has to be a quite uncommon find.
Good morning Raymond thanks for watching I think its shows up more in the later style packaging.
Take care.
Oscar
Oscar, thanks for showing such a long lived item.
Looking at my third edition catalogue from 1957 I see that Tri-ang then only made the Hopper car as a bogie bufferless Transcontinental version R.111, so the set could only be made as Transcontinental at first.
The previous years second edition had the R.111 bogie hopper but no set. Seems to be a while later until Triang added to the description that it had an operating unloading mechanism. I wonder if the very earliest version did not have the operating parts since there was no unloader until the next year.
Merry Christmas holidays and a happy new year.
Good morning John, thanks for the information, The Hopper car is show in Grey and with out buffers I think in the 55 catalogue the sets do not seem to have shown up as you say till the 57 catalogue and the Ore/Bulk Grain wagon R.214/215 showed up in the 58 catalogue. I always wonder weather the parts for the set had been available as separate items earlier than the sets and just not listed?
Hope you are having a great holiday season, stay safe.
Oscar
Great video again Oscar . My Sunday Triang Hornby fix. I never realised they upgraded the ore set to have system 6 , I always thought they had to use converter tracks . Mine dates from 76 and has the converter tracks and Super 4 track . Wonder when it changed? Love the look of your layout for what you say is temporary layout it certainly looks good .
Good morning Russell, I think for reading Pat Hammonds book that 1976/77 was the change over period for the rails on the unloading bridge, its also indicated that the bridge may be found in the darker shade at this point. Great to hear you are enjoying the look of the layout, it has become more than I was anticipating!
Thanks again.
Oscar
Brilliant. I have set my one up from 1970s mid. The Children engage far better with the active ore set. Did it with joinery work for the approach and runout bridges.
Good morning Gavin, sounds like great fun thanks for watching take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, The new layout is coming along very well. We found a plastic "mineral" that works well through the hoppers. (better than the original). It is sourced from a plastic extrusion factory, and is the actual black plastic pellets used in the manufacture of polythene water pipe.. Would you like some?
Good luck keeping the late model sidewalls in place? They often seem to dislodge due to expansion and contraction at differing temperatures?
Your 3D printing efforts are very good. The printers are a great asset to modellers who need custom parts..
Good morning Robin, the black plastic pellets sound interesting, someone else in the comments was wondering if Tri-ang had used pellets from the production line as the source of mineral for the sets. You right those sidewalls do have a life of there own.
Thanks again for watching.
Stay safe.
Oscar
1970s and 80s, my era, and imo real Hornby made in Britain.
Hi thanks for watching. Glad you’re enjoying seeing items from this period.
Oscar
Goodness it's going well!
I assume it would be possible to do a number of trucks at a time, not in unison as that would be rather difficult.
Good morning Ian that sounds a bit advanced multiple wagons! I do have a couple of other wagons perhaps I’ll have to get some extra beans!
Stay safe
Oscar
Hi oscar have a happy new year to you and your family mate stay safe and well mate goodbye for now clive
Good morning Clive Happy New Year.
Oscar
I remember having a Hornby grain wagon and that had a small trap door (metal) underneath and could used as self emptying, there must have been something available to empty such wagons although I cannot remember what that would have been.
Triang intended the same ore unloading bridge to be used for the grain wagons. The same one as depicted in this vid.
There was also a Transcontinental bogie cement wagon with the unloading feature for a few years from 1963.
Good morning Bryan, as John has indicted below they made a number of models that could take advantage of the is unloading bridge over the years. They were alway good at getting more life out of items in the range by making simple variations and reusing parts.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Thank you for the history that you are sharing as this built moves on. Question. I am a little confused with the 08s. That is a fine example you have there. The exhaust has moved and changed shape. Is this in line with the prototype? Also, do you know when this was changed by Hornby? Martin. (Thailand) Did you also 3D print the mounts under the incline pillars?
Hi Martin, yes those are 3D printed parts I made.
I think this model of the 08 Diesel Shunter R156 first appeared in 1976 as sort of replacement for the long running R152 dating back to the 1950s. It changed to R354 in 1980 as it gained a paint finish like many other models at the time, I think the engine number change as well. I'm unsure as to how accurate either model is compared to the prototypes.
Stay safe.
Oscar
As for the problem with the mineral bouncing everywhere, I feel like ballast would be a good idea, since it's a bit heavier so it doesn't bounce off every wall. Not sure which particular brand is best but I just use jarvis scenics ballast chippings since they're quite cheap
Good morning thanks for the information and taking the time to watch.
Stay safe.
Oscar
I do not live far from a plastic pipe manufacturer.. I may be able to obtain some more pellets for you? My son used to work part time there and swept a small paper bag of them up from the floor for me years ago. They are "rounded" and don't seem to jam up as much.. They also work well as ore on the Hornby "Crigglestone" conveyor belt loader (page 51 in the 31st edition of the Hornby catalogue).. One of our layouts had a Gravity unloader that filled the conveyor bin.. The same train could then be bought back down to be re-loaded from the conveyor belt.. Then it was back up the hill to unload again? Great play value... Easier than trying to park wagons in exactly the right place under the unloader too?
Good morning Robin, the combination of the Gravity unloader and Conveyor sounds like great fun.
Stay safe.
Oscar
It sounds like there is a lot more track noise, from running locomotives and trains, on this new layout compared to the previous one. Is it a hard surface on the new tables rather than the cork sheeting cover? Do you plan to install some sound deadening material or do you just prefer the rattle of wheels on rails?
Hi the was cork or underlay on the previous layout either, At present I have no plans install either.
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Oscar
I had that ore set but could never find a way of incorporating it into my small layout. Always thought it would need a steady hand to get two trains running though at the correct speed for a successful transfer. Was it based on a full-size version, if so presumably the wagons would have been opened by hand...?
Hi yes it definitely takes up a bit of space on the layout. I had always wanted to include it on my previous railway but just couldn’t find the space. I’m unsure of the prototype it may be based on. But I think early on wagons would’ve been operated by hand before moving on to automation.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Great video, love the train at the end.
Are you planning on having a wagon yard of some sort?
Thanks for the entertainment
Good morning Joshua great to hear enjoyed the video thanks again for watching. Great idea having a yard, I shall see what can be fitted in, things keep changing!
Stay safe
Oscar
Very nice video as per usual Mr. Paisley! Over here in the states Tyco made the 862 Virginian unloading hopper set, which works on a similar principle, but always causes a massive mess. Have you any experience with the Battle space line of trains? They have always fascinated me (especially the operating missile and helicopter cars) and I was wondering if you have (or had) any experience with them!
Hi thanks for the information, just had a look at Tyco set looks very interesting lovely packaging, they seem to have made number of other operating sets too. I do have a few of the Battle Space/Nato items in my collection, I remember as a child having the Red exploding car R.249 a terrific looking item in its self as well as being able to explode with it mouse trap like mechanism, plus caps could add a bang and that great smell! great fun.
Stay safe.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley I have to take another look at getting some Battle space items then! Tyco is one of those makes that's had some hits, and then a lot of flops. Their Slot car sets were always top notch, and even hold their ground today! As for their trains, the earlier ones are generally really well made, sold under the Tyco name or even the Mantua name in a red box. The later, more common ones were produced after Tyco was bought up by a food conglomerate, and that's when the quality started to dip. They used a pancake motor and a system of gears that they dubbed as 'powertorque,' and they were absolute tanks, but as many of them were meant to be abused, their reliability was that of a throw away. As for their accessories, they did make some really impressive stuff! It's more reminiscent of the old Lionel O scale stuff, and the one I'm on the hunt for is the automatic unloading boxcar!
Cheers!
@@oscarpaisley I find the Lionel designs used by Triang fascinating. I have heard what Lionel wanted in return was access to Scalextric. The Tri-ang Lionel science series in the back of catalogue nine is evidence for those who find the joint work too hard to imagine. Might be worth referring to the science series at some stage.
Gread vid, love the music, can you tell me what it us please?
Hi, it was put together for me, buy a friend of mine sometime ago, using royalty free apple loops and loops from Looperman.com.
Oscar
Hi please can you help me on your r415 operating ore wagon set you have got extra support on the top high level piers where did you get them please can you help me yours james
Good morning James they are not a part of the Hornby range but an item I made up myself.
Stay safe.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley Morning oscar would you be able to make some for my if you can please if how much thank you yours James
@@oscarpaisley Morning Oscar I bought hornby r415 operating ore wagon set but I have a problem with the track support like the ones you made can you help me please help me what can I use I am disabled so I cannot make much Oscar so can l send my email address to you please yours James. keep safe It would help me big thank
Oscar the British wagon was R215 operating grain wagon
Thanks Steven.
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Oscar
And the R214 ore wagon at the same time or just before. Add a roof ,change the colour and lettering and Triang had a grain wagon at little cost.
Edited to correct R214 ore wagon number.
@@johnd8892 that I think is correct
Are these sets in demanded in this current day .
Hi, sadly probably not.
Oscar