@@yessidolemerchant5143 it's not the same thing. The points of reference; indexes, on a dial are fixed . They never change. A bezel is a dynamic point of reference so for eligibility it needs to be more defined. This is why you nearly always see numbers on bezels but don't need them on the dial. Basic watch designing 101 don't ya know.
I have the bi-metal on mesh. It's thin, lightweight and very wearable. I understand the Cook comparison and like it also but this is a higher level piece in terms of design and finish. I enjoy the vintage cues and get nothing but positive comments, not another boring diver for people who never dive. My opinion is admittedly different. To me the 'regular' Superocean Heritage is not a serious diver, I wouldn't take it scuba diving (which would be the fourth time in my life) either despite the greater water resistance. The basic Superocean with timer bezel, that's the diver. Around a pool, no problem, there's plenty of water resistance for the vast majority of customers.. This is a sport/dress piece , which frankly the original Heritage is too, except this pops under my shirt cuff without the slightest issue. Very happy with it.
This just reminds me of the Captain Cook 42 for more than half the price and half the water resistance. You’ve extensively handled both, which would you take?
@@WatchUnwind I have the 37mm so the smaller size. I love how it wears. I have the ghost grey limited edition. There are a few problems though like it's hard to manual wind as the bezel kinda blocks your finger. And the bracelet is lovely but the clasp has no micro adjust which can be a little annoying.
Bruce, 100m od WR is ok for swimming and scuba diving, or anything water ralated, as long as you do it near the surface. It is 10 ATM!. If you know anything about physics just imagine how much pressure you have to make with your arms only (since water near the surface doesn't add a lot) to make it 10 ATM :)
I don’t understand all the fuss about this watch only being 100M’s of water resistance. Who dives more than 330ft? The average amateur driver goes between 30 to 80 feet. Clearly, those would safe depths for a 100M watch.
This watch looks amazing and isn't gigantic!! I'm glad Breitling made it reasonable in size, but it would be hard to look over the poor water resistance and crown. Tough one... I do love the dial and markers
And I'd loved this watch with its interesting indices and conical layering. But dirt on the face tells me this watch doesn't come from Breitling's A-team, possibly assembled in Asia.
The main thing in this watch is how thin and elegant it is. It could not be so thin with a screw doen crown so it is purely for design reasons that it does not have. The issue of dust in the dial is a purely random fact that concerns one watch and not all thr 57 line...
100m water is more than enough for almost any purpose. First off if your going scuba you’re using a computer, not a 5K watch like a submariner. Secondly, most dives are under 100m anyways. Third, most people buying this watch are like you, don’t even swim or go gym, so it’s really irrelevant. I do appreciate the review.
To me this is wayyyyy better than the modern super oceans if Breitling gave this proper dive watch specs it’d be their best selling watch but they can’t do anything right
It’s sort of the elCamino or elRancharo of watches. Those sort of pick-up cars said “I’m too cool and hip to drive a sedan but too comfortable to perform the job of the person who drives a real pickup” This kind of occupies the same space as a Yachtmaster. It’s very dressy!
What don’t you understand?It’s a faithful reissue of a 1950s watch that was only 100m. If you want a hardcore dive watch get the regular superocean 300m.
I really love the vintage look of this watch, but to not have 200m WR and a screw down crown on a watch with "Super Ocean" water associations just seems bizarre to me. Especially at that price point. Maybe they could've went with a larger screw down crown? And what's up with the Seiko-esque backwards deployant clasp? Have Breitling done that before? Anyway, great review, Bruce. Your editing/macro shots are always on point.
I think I like it, haven’t had one in hand but I love the superocean heritage. I actually like the rainbow variants of this watch. I would t recommend it for a only watch but if you already have a few timepieces I think it might be a cool and quirky addition.
I gotta admit. I never liked this watch in photos and came here to fast foward to the outside wrist shots the Bruce is famous for expecting it to not look great again but that inward bezel slope with zero distortion on the reflections combined with Breitling's beautiful AR creates some mesmerizing reflections and with a good side profile despite the overhanging bezel actually looks pretty decent on the wrist. I no longer dismiss this watch and I can see it being enjoyed. It's not my type of watch, no vintage styled divers are, but it looks pretty good in the wild.
Nice timepiece, I’m not bothered one second by the push-pull crown or 100 meter depth rating, this is not a diver. But I find it looks much better in blue.
Nice video, thank you, Bruce. Said this on Patreon: I like everything on your SO Heritage II better than this. The design, water resistance, size, just everything. Not long ago Breitling's slogan was "Instruments for Professionals " they should've stuck to that. A dive watch with no screw down crown doesn't interest me in the least.
Nice video Bruce. I think the Superocean Heritage is a nice looking watch, however; I have mixed feelings about the indices. In particular at 3, 6, 9, and 12 o’clock where there are duplicate markers, i.e.; the bar indices overlaying the circular inlay. From some angles, I really don’t like the look, yet, at other times I’m drawn to the look of these indices. I’m not sure if I’ve seen this look on other watches. I’m curious as to your thoughts. Have you seen this look before? Is it common in the industry? Thanks, Ed
A bit too big diameter size match to the strap, the symbol of 12,3,6,9 is a love or hate issue for some, and 100m water resistant is hard to make a competition to others. Or you will accept all of that because it is a reliable Breitling. 😊
Breitling has a ceramic bezel, COSC certified and it looks so much better than the Rado. 100 meters of water resistance is good enough for 99% of people. You can easily go swimming with this. Plus it's a Breitling, which is a recognizable brand
Exactly there with you, not my first choice but if someone already owns a few watches it’s a cool addition if you have the extra cash burning a hole in your wallet
Wrong. 100 meters is more than sufficient for swimming and snorkeling. ISO only requires 100m. We have this preoccupation with depth rating when in reality you wouldn’t take this desk diver scuba diving..although you certainly can.
You had me until "push/ pull crown". Ugh. Really? Also, have they ever heard of 40mm? A heritage watch should have a heritage size. I realize it wears smaller but that bezel looks like a satellite dish and should have been half as wide. Come on Breitling! They're like the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
Waterproof to 330ft deep underwater.. Shower and fishing should be OK, would not snorkel or lap swim, 🤷 lmao... Are they known to fail their waterproof rating? 🤷 edit: Breitling website says swimming and snorkeling and shallower diving is just fine with this watch. 🤓👍
Another example of why I move farther and farther away from Breitling every year. Selling my last two breitlings. Sad because I really used to love Breitling. In my opinion they just aren’t what they used to be. Just my opinion
Michael Riera I’ve had around 10 in my life. Recently my last 2 are the galactic 41 and a navitimer B01. The galactic I wore twice. Just can’t feel the love. The Navi is actually a good watch. One of the only good watches I like from Breitling. But I just never wear it. I used to love Breitling because they were a real solid tool watch. I just have moved away from their designs. I find other brands suit me better. That’s all.
Well, if you ever find yourself needing to bail water out of your boat, this is your watch. I mean, you could lay it down flat and fill it up with coffee...then dunk your favorite donut. Meh
Cheap Chinese watch’s are now offering 100 meter + at under £70. How hard is it to offer 200 meters and a screw down crown. Basically a very expensive diver homage,not a watch to be used in water.
RIP Breitling 1884 - Kern Kern needs to be fired ASAP. This was my favorite brand, with those latest models, zero interest. It starred with the removal of the winged logo, and now Kern is screwing with design, quality. Just hurts 😔
Well yes if the Breitling came out in 1957, and the Rado came out in 1962.. yes definitely the Breitling designers in 1962 went back in time 5 years to copy Rado 😂😂😂
Ugly first of all, and that's enough to have fired the designer when he or she said 'what do you think of this'? Those corners of the dish are going to get beat up besides catching dust! As usual Bruce- you are politically correct. When are you going to run for office?
This bezel gives a whole new definition to “wearing a dinner plate on your wrist”
Satellite dish 📡
Yeah and the lack of numbers on the bezel makes the whole thing almost pointless.
Have any of you tried it on?
@@jdssn106 So the dial of a submariner is pointless since there're no numbers on it? Thats what the indices are for...
@@yessidolemerchant5143 it's not the same thing. The points of reference; indexes, on a dial are fixed . They never change. A bezel is a dynamic point of reference so for eligibility it needs to be more defined. This is why you nearly always see numbers on bezels but don't need them on the dial. Basic watch designing 101 don't ya know.
I have the bi-metal on mesh. It's thin, lightweight and very wearable. I understand the Cook comparison and like it also but this is a higher level piece in terms of design and finish. I enjoy the vintage cues and get nothing but positive comments, not another boring diver for people who never dive. My opinion is admittedly different. To me the 'regular' Superocean Heritage is not a serious diver, I wouldn't take it scuba diving (which would be the fourth time in my life) either despite the greater water resistance. The basic Superocean with timer bezel, that's the diver. Around a pool, no problem, there's plenty of water resistance for the vast majority of customers.. This is a sport/dress piece , which frankly the original Heritage is too, except this pops under my shirt cuff without the slightest issue. Very happy with it.
It would be nice, to see the bezel action! Not only talking about... Sorry, Bruce. 👋🏻
No screw down? Preposterous! (Says the desk diver)
I really like it! It's uniqueness is really enjoyable. So tired of the submariner copies.
Dust in the dial is inexcusable in this class of watch. Wonder what Breitling has to say about it.
I like the roullette-wheel angle of the bezel. The rainbow version is particularly cool and different.
Impressive and unique watch, I want one
This just reminds me of the Captain Cook 42 for more than half the price and half the water resistance. You’ve extensively handled both, which would you take?
yeah I agree with you. But I can see that this superocean has more refined and sophisticated details than captain cook.
@@saseonglee1309 But the Captain Cook has a ceramic bezel and 300m water resistance.
@@FurkanCemTurfanda The Breitling has ceramic bezel too though
GORGEOUS. No getting around that this is one of the best looking dive watches around.
Reminds me of my captain cook.
Was going to say the same.
I am a bit fan of the captain cook, which color dial do you have and how do you like the watch?
@@WatchUnwind I have the 37mm so the smaller size. I love how it wears. I have the ghost grey limited edition. There are a few problems though like it's hard to manual wind as the bezel kinda blocks your finger. And the bracelet is lovely but the clasp has no micro adjust which can be a little annoying.
@@kanemillard3315 cool thanks for the information , I am debating picking one up probably The brown or blue in 42mm on leather.
Both reissues from late 50s early 60s, hence the similar style. The Breitling however came out first.
The specs of dust may be an isolated QC problem, but they really let this down for me. Shame
Bruce, 100m od WR is ok for swimming and scuba diving, or anything water ralated, as long as you do it near the surface. It is 10 ATM!. If you know anything about physics just imagine how much pressure you have to make with your arms only (since water near the surface doesn't add a lot) to make it 10 ATM :)
I don’t understand all the fuss about this watch only being 100M’s of water resistance. Who dives more than 330ft? The average amateur driver goes between 30 to 80 feet. Clearly, those would safe depths for a 100M watch.
This watch looks amazing and isn't gigantic!! I'm glad Breitling made it reasonable in size, but it would be hard to look over the poor water resistance and crown. Tough one... I do love the dial and markers
And I'd loved this watch with its interesting indices and conical layering. But dirt on the face tells me this watch doesn't come from Breitling's A-team, possibly assembled in Asia.
nice job and amazing watch...its polarizing and i like it
The main thing in this watch is how thin and elegant it is. It could not be so thin with a screw doen crown so it is purely for design reasons that it does not have. The issue of dust in the dial is a purely random fact that concerns one watch and not all thr 57 line...
100m water is more than enough for almost any purpose. First off if your going scuba you’re using a computer, not a 5K watch like a submariner. Secondly, most dives are under 100m anyways. Third, most people buying this watch are like you, don’t even swim or go gym, so it’s really irrelevant. I do appreciate the review.
To me this is wayyyyy better than the modern super oceans if Breitling gave this proper dive watch specs it’d be their best selling watch but they can’t do anything right
It’s sort of the elCamino or elRancharo of watches. Those sort of pick-up cars said “I’m too cool and hip to drive a sedan but too comfortable to perform the job of the person who drives a real pickup” This kind of occupies the same space as a Yachtmaster. It’s very dressy!
I don’t umderstand calling it a Superocean when it has 100 M of WR.
What don’t you understand?It’s a faithful reissue of a 1950s watch that was only 100m. If you want a hardcore dive watch get the regular superocean 300m.
@@michaelriera6277 faithfully crap
100m is still good enough for what most people need, very few people actually dive let alone dive beyond 100m
@@lankymk Breitling Superpool might be a better name then
@@michaelbishop9157 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I really love the vintage look of this watch, but to not have 200m WR and a screw down crown on a watch with "Super Ocean" water associations just seems bizarre to me. Especially at that price point. Maybe they could've went with a larger screw down crown? And what's up with the Seiko-esque backwards deployant clasp? Have Breitling done that before? Anyway, great review, Bruce. Your editing/macro shots are always on point.
It has the name "super ocean" branded on it, yet has only a 100 meters water resistance? Sounds like Breathing is doing some serious cost cutting.
Captain Cook 42 is a better watch imo.
Cant help but see the “super” similarity to the Rado captain cook in terms of the sloped ceramic bezel
I think I like it, haven’t had one in hand but I love the superocean heritage. I actually like the rainbow variants of this watch. I would t recommend it for a only watch but if you already have a few timepieces I think it might be a cool and quirky addition.
I think if the bezel had of matched the size of the case they would have a best seller on their hands.
I gotta admit. I never liked this watch in photos and came here to fast foward to the outside wrist shots the Bruce is famous for expecting it to not look great again but that inward bezel slope with zero distortion on the reflections combined with Breitling's beautiful AR creates some mesmerizing reflections and with a good side profile despite the overhanging bezel actually looks pretty decent on the wrist. I no longer dismiss this watch and I can see it being enjoyed. It's not my type of watch, no vintage styled divers are, but it looks pretty good in the wild.
I think the Rado Captain Cook 42mm is a better value proposition. The Breitling is a nice piece though. Thx Bruce. Keep 'em coming!
I'd take the Superocean Heritage II over this any day
I agree with you on that but still kinda like this one
Absolutely, superior watch.
Nice timepiece, I’m not bothered one second by the push-pull crown or 100 meter depth rating, this is not a diver. But I find it looks much better in blue.
Nice video, thank you, Bruce. Said this on Patreon: I like everything on your SO Heritage II better than this. The design, water resistance, size, just everything. Not long ago Breitling's slogan was "Instruments for Professionals " they should've stuck to that. A dive watch with no screw down crown doesn't interest me in the least.
I'm from MA and never knew Saltzmans were based in RI I should check them out one of these days.
Hi Kevin. FYI Saltzmans has 2 stores but only the Newport RI store has Breitling.
Handsome and seemingly versatile
Amazing watch
Nice video Bruce. I think the Superocean Heritage is a nice looking watch, however; I have mixed feelings about the indices. In particular at 3, 6, 9, and 12 o’clock where there are duplicate markers, i.e.; the bar indices overlaying the circular inlay. From some angles, I really don’t like the look, yet, at other times I’m drawn to the look of these indices. I’m not sure if I’ve seen this look on other watches. I’m curious as to your thoughts. Have you seen this look before? Is it common in the industry? Thanks, Ed
This is how the original 1957 SuperOcean 1004 looked - it’s what this model is based on.
amazing watch--vidoes don't do it justice. but wish it had the tudor movement.
That will result in a much thicker watch.
A bit too big diameter size match to the strap, the symbol of 12,3,6,9 is a love or hate issue for some, and 100m water resistant is hard to make a competition to others. Or you will accept all of that because it is a reliable Breitling. 😊
Most people don’t dive. At all. If you want a good value dive watch, then get a Squale 1521. 500m and it costs £800.
It’s extremely frustrating they wouldn’t make this a proper dive watch
Double the price of a Rado Captain Cook 42, but 1/3 the Water Resistance and an aluminum bezel instead of a ceramic.
The Rado wins.
Breitling has a ceramic bezel, COSC certified and it looks so much better than the Rado. 100 meters of water resistance is good enough for 99% of people. You can easily go swimming with this. Plus it's a Breitling, which is a recognizable brand
What a strange thing. The leather strap, the crown. An anti-water dive watch.
It is fine for snorkeling and swimming. You could take it diving but that would be risky.
I wanna be in the room when they decided to remake their most legendary diver as a 100 meter water resistant piece with no screw down crown
Only Breitling could make a time-only diver dial look cluttered and irrationally busy
Definitely a good looking and tough watch. These days, why would most need a dive watch? My colleagues and I all use dive computers.
Great review from A to Z...!
I don't like the new logo i like the one with the wings don't know why they went with this
Same here, the winged B is so iconic
Because that logo is the original
Suoerocean! With only 100m? Sounds misleading to me.
I like the look but it's just an expensive Seiko 5.
Hiya all,I suspect I may be in the minority but think their new super quartz blackout release is ice cold? Cheers.
Myeah, this is a crazy thin watch. Awesome.
Is the lug to lug corrct? for a 42mm it seems a bit too short.
I think in general it’s a cool watch . I don’t think it would be a purchase choice nonetheless it’s still nice
Exactly there with you, not my first choice but if someone already owns a few watches it’s a cool addition if you have the extra cash burning a hole in your wallet
Wrong. 100 meters is more than sufficient for swimming and snorkeling. ISO only requires 100m. We have this preoccupation with depth rating when in reality you wouldn’t take this desk diver scuba diving..although you certainly can.
Not a watch for me. I believe part of the reason for non-screw down crown is the fact that the original (ref. 1004) didn't have it either.
you guys arent going lower than 100m...for the reviewer how many times each year do you go diving lower than 100m?
I’m just waiting for someone to say: “I dinged my bezel!” 😖
Not likely as it is ceramic
Love it. 100m fine, & lack of screw down crown wouldn't bother me either. The shite new logo does tho. .& hurrah for no date! Cheers mate 👍🏻
You had me until "push/ pull crown". Ugh. Really? Also, have they ever heard of 40mm? A heritage watch should have a heritage size. I realize it wears smaller but that bezel looks like a satellite dish and should have been half as wide. Come on Breitling!
They're like the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
Lug width (for straps)?
The inverted bezel is horrible.
I like this watch. But the 100m WR kills it for me. I would probably buy the Super Ocean over the Heritage due to WR.
Waterproof to 330ft deep underwater.. Shower and fishing should be OK, would not snorkel or lap swim, 🤷 lmao... Are they known to fail their waterproof rating? 🤷
edit: Breitling website says swimming and snorkeling and shallower diving is just fine with this watch. 🤓👍
Another example of why I move farther and farther away from Breitling every year. Selling my last two breitlings. Sad because I really used to love Breitling. In my opinion they just aren’t what they used to be.
Just my opinion
So why would you sell the ones you have? Presumably liked your Breitling when you purchased them.
Michael Riera I’ve had around 10 in my life. Recently my last 2 are the galactic 41 and a navitimer B01.
The galactic I wore twice. Just can’t feel the love.
The Navi is actually a good watch. One of the only good watches I like from Breitling. But I just never wear it.
I used to love Breitling because they were a real solid tool watch. I just have moved away from their designs. I find other brands suit me better. That’s all.
A dress watch disguised as a diver. Looks cool but I lean more towards the Superocean.
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RANDOM ROB!!!!!
So it's an interesting watch, but not an interesting price point at almost 5k? :)
I just saw it at Brietling Ad. The bezel is just too weird looking.
Heritage Super Ocean 2 all day! I see nothing Super with this watch..hate divided circle indices
Not for me
Well, if you ever find yourself needing to bail water out of your boat, this is your watch. I mean, you could lay it down flat and fill it up with coffee...then dunk your favorite donut. Meh
Cheap Chinese watch’s are now offering 100 meter + at under £70. How hard is it to offer 200 meters and a screw down crown. Basically a very expensive diver homage,not a watch to be used in water.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. If it has a screw down crown then no scuba diver is getting anywhere near 200m.
WTF is the point of a dive watch that you wouldn’t swim with?
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A watch called SuperOcean with only 100M water resistance? That's not right. Should be 200M minimum.
Is a faithful reproduction of 50s era watch Superocean that was only 100m. You’ll be fine swimming just don’t go diving.
RIP Breitling 1884 - Kern
Kern needs to be fired ASAP. This was my favorite brand, with those latest models, zero interest.
It starred with the removal of the winged logo, and now Kern is screwing with design, quality. Just hurts 😔
I agree
I hate this watch and the new chronomat.
Mario Mantica I watched a different RUclips channel where they showed quality issues on the clasp of the Chronomat.
I feel your pain. Such an iconic brand being destroyed by one bad decision after another.
Miss for me. The Rado Captain Cook looks similar, for thousands less.
It’s a Rado Captain Cook, but 3x the price. This is disappointing. Watches need to innovate and not replicate.
Agree, especially for a brand that is trying to reinvent itself.
This came years before the captain cook
You may want to check your history.
Well yes if the Breitling came out in 1957, and the Rado came out in 1962.. yes definitely the Breitling designers in 1962 went back in time 5 years to copy Rado 😂😂😂
Not a fan looks like a soup bowl
Gimmie that blue one instead 😂
This watch is a total yawn. For this price I want something that actually quickens the pulse, for goodness sake!
It doesn’t make sense
The 12, 3, 6, and nine are a no go for me. Bezel looks like blanc pain. Meh.
Never been a fan of Breitling and this confirms it!
An ugly watch!
Ugly?
Compared to what exactly?
overrated
Captain cook exaggerated edition 😟
Its just ...weird looking
Too large!!!
Now that's an ugly watch...
This is so bad...
Ugly first of all, and that's enough to have fired the designer when he or she said 'what do you think of this'? Those corners of the dish are going to get beat up besides catching dust! As usual Bruce- you are politically correct. When are you going to run for office?
Breitling quality isn’t good, that’s sad.
So happy I have a pre Kern Breitling when the quality was on par with Rolex or Omega.
great review but such an ugly watch....