The items I use has evolved over the last few seasons, but the basic concepts are the same. Everyone has their own personal favorite. Here is what I was enjoying last season in Season 14. Equipment: Pest Shoulders, Gloves, Pants Captains Boots, and Belt Born's Weapon, Chest Nem Bracers Leoric's Crown Halcyon Neck Obsidian & Oculus Rings Storm Shield Offhand In the Cube: In-geom Steuart's Greaves Ring of Royal Grandeur Legendary Gems: Ice Blink Toxin Gogok
Your intelligence gives you resist all already, and since there are diminishing returns on the int and resist all in general the STR and Dex provide more over all toughness than int gems would.
@@bugsdoeproductions4265 No your Num-Lock is most likely being dropped off if you move with left/right-click for the Num Lock trick to work you need to move with the scroll wheel!
Thanks for the guide. There are MANY znecs out there who need this sort of information. A few additional comments (sorry if they were already mentioned): 1. IMO Running with frailty instead of Skeletons is not superior for two reasons. 1) You are more restricted to where you can stand with the aura (see 2 below) and 2) You will find low density rifts where it is much more difficult to keep up LotD with only nova/spear procing Obsidian ring. Keeping up LotD is your number 1 priority. PS: Pretty sure two of the same curses from two players cancel each other out. 2. Generate globes in open areas. Tight hallways are very bad for globe generation and can often kill the Rats. 3. Do not numlock nova/spear. You will sometimes run out of essence and not be able to proc your Obsidian ring. 4. Znec running Nemesis bracers allows the Barb to use strong-arm for extra 30% damage, and the shrine will pop faster since znec is leading group. 5. Ahvarion and shrine gloves are excellent if you’re looking for more XP. It will sometimes not proc for a while, but if you’re running in an efficient group that kills a lot of whites as you move through the rift, you'll have the 25% XP boost (and the cdr and attack speed buff) a lot of the time. 6. Try and reach attack speed breakpoints for your nova/spear so you can get more Obsidian procs 7. Less blood rush = more Obsidian procs on LotD 8. Aim for 3-3.5 minute runs, on average. Lower the GR level if you’re not achieving this.
I think the variation with wielding In-geom, and cubing Ahavarion with wearing gloves of worship provides the most benefit overall. The extra exp/cdr buffs are really nice. Another thing, you said yourself you want max cdr on your items, so don't forget you really want to try to get a 100% on your Leoric as well. I think the way you explained rat runs in general at the start of the video is really well done for players who are looking for trying to learn how to do rat runs.
Hey man , nice Video for people who are new to rat runs, There are some Choices of items and gems i would not totaly agree on, but like i said well explained for the Beginners :-)
Love it. once again, clear and understandable with a GR run as proof. and as always, with enough para to prove a casual player can do it. I build the Meteor build wiz with comfort now. so I want to chase down a decent necro build. ty
Hi Love the video i havent played diablo since 2015 desided for some reson end of 2018 to test it again and my ww barb and sutch are sudently destroying 85 gr rift solo i couldent even do 55 gr solo befor i left, used to be big fish, im small fish now appriciate time u spend making video couse this is gona be Meta for very long time, im prob gona end up making 1, of every char but i like lazyness of ZNec good video overall ty^^
When you say numlock trick, what do you mean? Are you setting some kind of macro or keybinding so when you press #1,2,3,4 it also presses numlock on/off for you?
this more than a guide., really good job! I think you've named all of these things I was thinking of ;) but the hardest thing about RAT is to find a good team to play with
Yeah I do have a question, I play rat dps, I just read without further elaboration that a znecro can give the group 100% chc. Can someone explain this please? Is all my chc useless? Would it be better to trade it for something else like attack speed or area damage?
TheMiig1513 zNecro can give crit chance because of corpse lance with the cold rune. Every corpse lance increases chance to be critically hit stacking up to 100% but it takes time to build up. No. Don’t lose your crit at all. Your mage damage is 100% based off of your sheet damage. Most trash will die long before the zNecro has time to stack crit on it up to 100%. And u need crit to kill trash plus sheet damage for your singularity mages.
Great guide, thanks! I just wanted to know if you really need max CD in every slot? I tested dropping 1% and it made no diff to my LOTD cd - 72.12% cdr total = 33 second cd of LOTD (max rolls on all but 1 item which is 1% from max + max paragon CD and born 10% set bonus) If I then use a max cdr build (72.41%) the LOTD cd is still 33 seconds...
much more optimal build is to use ahavarion+ gloves of worship. if u want to get the buffs you have to use frailty. thats why u probably didnt get the buff as often. using death nova is enough to get land of the dead back running . also go with briggs in the cube for poping strongarms and grouping the mobs. stand alone much better for overall toughness during the rift than ratma shield.
If you can cast skeleton, devour and death nova in the same time. However you can't cast death nova and corpse lance at the same time so therefor spamming corpse lance takes away casts from death nova in a way. That's the reason you shouldn't spam corpse lance. :)
Nope, this is a group speed run build only. Z in zdps = zero. No dips, no killing anything. Check this out for solo: ruclips.net/video/fX8-mNt7evk/видео.html
Nice guide. I think I'll go necro for s15. Thanks for the build. Does the z necro or dps necro work with different 4man comps or is it pigeonholed into this specific setup?
zNecro ONLY works with a Rat dps at minimum. You can two man zNecro (skills/build changes some) this guide is for the 4 man zNecro. You could take this build into two or three player groups and it would work though. zNecro does zero damage (that's what the "z" means)
Hi and thx for the vid. Can you pls elaborate on why some ppl think that the skellies is a bad idea over frailty? Most groups im in does 100s in anything from 2 to 4 mins and i use frailty and avarion+gloves for shrine bonus. Ty for any reply.
It depends on the group your with, but some groups like the necro to run Frailty with the 18% rune, and then both necros can run decripify borrowed time for more uptime on their sim CD. As I said in the video I think the frailty builds are slightly more efficient, but a LOT more work to play if you're doing rats for days. So a lot of people opt for Command Skeleton because it resets the CD on Land of the Dead really fast, and gives you almost 100% uptime. Both options work very very well. Play them both and see what you like more, that's what I did.
Good guide for the community. But I have a question... Shouldn’t the Znec run Frailty - Aura of Frailty? I mainly play Rathma build and I’ve never heard of or seen a Rathma build that has frailty in it. They usually have Land of the dead or Decrepify. I’m quite new to the build. Cheers.
So this is just as efficient as pestilence if not faster while also being a lot easier/lasier to play? Been looking for a real fast mob killer. The faster the better. Been looking for builds that speed up all around farming no matter what i was doing. So far pest is fast but i havent played manybif any ither types of builds. Someone the other day tried to explain nightmare builds and i didnt know how much faster that build wouod be... idk its all so confusing... i essentually want to go into a room one click die and move out asap in GR. I play on xbox pc and switch.. lately just switch.
I did talk about using the 4pc pestilence, (11:35) I talk about the Stinky zNec (4pc pest). I ran the ahavarion and shrine gloves combo first (my very first zNec spec) and I found the ahavarion gloves didn't proc often for me. Maybe the Ahavarion is bugged? I dunno.
the quality from a zbarb comes from his skills, i've seen pretty better zbarbs with lower pickup radius than some with more radius that just don't help. If the barb is good pickup radius is just a complement not a requisite
Zbarbs that don’t suck at life only need 16 pick up radius 👍. That way they can wear star instead of locket, which I guess you would only care about if you play HC.
Hi pchild, yes I saw the link. It showcases the 3 price pestilence set. The gear seems to be very similar as in you march video. I was curious if I can apply this build to the current meta for this season. Thanks again.
rakivmoo not really. It does zero dps. It’s a pestilence based build. So I suggest trying some pesti builds. I have a pest guide on my channel too. Check it out.
hey pchild Alavar#1624 here...wondering how to keep up Cdr whilst moving...with gogok proc my cdr is just under 74% ...IAS is 38% or 2.30 with gogok procs and i'm still getting complaints that things are not frozen while I'm teleporting around looking for packs...I have Command skeles and devour only only on lock.....i'm very new to Znec so Im sure there is something monumentally wrong that I'm doing to not have LOD 100% uptime...is it just that I'm not Numlocking LoD as well? Or am I just not moving Fast enough between packs...to spam Nova?
Alavar POE depending on the build your using your zodiac ring is needed to keep 100% uptime. You need to hit things with command skeleton and nova or spear. You need to micro pause while moving at times and hit things. I need to make an updated guide with current builds.
Does your damage come from the poison gem ? I'm looking for an alternate build to the pestilancer because it's, well, boring, but i don't know how to deal dmg without the 6set bonus
The items I use has evolved over the last few seasons, but the basic concepts are the same. Everyone has their own personal favorite. Here is what I was enjoying last season in Season 14.
Equipment:
Pest Shoulders, Gloves, Pants
Captains Boots, and Belt
Born's Weapon, Chest
Nem Bracers
Leoric's Crown
Halcyon Neck
Obsidian & Oculus Rings
Storm Shield Offhand
In the Cube:
In-geom
Steuart's Greaves
Ring of Royal Grandeur
Legendary Gems:
Ice Blink
Toxin
Gogok
Out of curiosity, why the rubies? Wouldn't resist all or be more helpful, or am I missing what the extra strength adds to the build?
Your intelligence gives you resist all already, and since there are diminishing returns on the int and resist all in general the STR and Dex provide more over all toughness than int gems would.
i have everything except the storm shield and halycon amulet. is that the reason why numlock is canceling out?
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@@bugsdoeproductions4265 No your Num-Lock is most likely being dropped off if you move with left/right-click for the Num Lock trick to work you need to move with the scroll wheel!
Wow. Thanks for this. By far, this is the best zNecro guide out there.
10/10
Hold your hand out flat, then curl your thumb and index finger until they touch. Suberb guide!
Found the racist!
@Dejay Rezme, I'm sorry you feel that way about a hand gesture that means perfection.
Sorry it's a lame joke :)
I love how people just put things together like this! That was pretty damn cool!!!
Thanks for the guide. There are MANY znecs out there who need this sort of information.
A few additional comments (sorry if they were already mentioned):
1. IMO Running with frailty instead of Skeletons is not superior for two reasons. 1) You are more restricted to where you can stand with the aura (see 2 below) and 2) You will find low density rifts where it is much more difficult to keep up LotD with only nova/spear procing Obsidian ring. Keeping up LotD is your number 1 priority. PS: Pretty sure two of the same curses from two players cancel each other out.
2. Generate globes in open areas. Tight hallways are very bad for globe generation and can often kill the Rats.
3. Do not numlock nova/spear. You will sometimes run out of essence and not be able to proc your Obsidian ring.
4. Znec running Nemesis bracers allows the Barb to use strong-arm for extra 30% damage, and the shrine will pop faster since znec is leading group.
5. Ahvarion and shrine gloves are excellent if you’re looking for more XP. It will sometimes not proc for a while, but if you’re running in an efficient group that kills a lot of whites as you move through the rift, you'll have the 25% XP boost (and the cdr and attack speed buff) a lot of the time.
6. Try and reach attack speed breakpoints for your nova/spear so you can get more Obsidian procs
7. Less blood rush = more Obsidian procs on LotD
8. Aim for 3-3.5 minute runs, on average. Lower the GR level if you’re not achieving this.
nicely explained!! now i know what all those msgs in public chats are about haha. thanks :D
I think the variation with wielding In-geom, and cubing Ahavarion with wearing gloves of worship provides the most benefit overall. The extra exp/cdr buffs are really nice.
Another thing, you said yourself you want max cdr on your items, so don't forget you really want to try to get a 100% on your Leoric as well.
I think the way you explained rat runs in general at the start of the video is really well done for players who are looking for trying to learn how to do rat runs.
That's one of the cool things about zNecros, there are A LOT of ways to play it. All of them work. If you like something more, enjoy!
This also requires that you run bounties to get the gloves of worship. *Shudder*.
just found out about your channel, man you deserve more subs and views :D
thanks for the guide, and i love how chill your vids are to watch.
Now this is how a guide is supposed to be, great job!
Thanks Boss!
Very thorough guide thanks for taking the time to put this video up. You deserve more subs that's for sure, keep up the great work!!!
Thanks!
You cleared all my doubts about this game play, thank you so much for this great tutorial video! Subbed to your channel and liked!
Thanks! You cleared all my doubts about your awesomeness! +1
Hey man , nice Video for people who are new to rat runs, There are some Choices of items and gems i would not totaly agree on, but like i said well explained for the Beginners :-)
Best zNecro guide on RUclips
Excellent guide on the topic, as a main Barb I learned a lot!
Love it. once again, clear and understandable with a GR run as proof. and as always, with enough para to prove a casual player can do it.
I build the Meteor build wiz with comfort now. so I want to chase down a decent necro build. ty
Thanks for the info. I"ve been seeing a lot requests in the chat hub for those and didnt know what it meant.
Hi Love the video i havent played diablo since 2015 desided for some reson end of 2018 to test it again and my ww barb and sutch are sudently destroying 85 gr rift solo i couldent even do 55 gr solo befor i left, used to be big fish, im small fish now appriciate time u spend making video couse this is gona be Meta for very long time, im prob gona end up making 1, of every char but i like lazyness of ZNec good video overall ty^^
Great video bud. You articulated your points very well.
You should have more subs, good quality and good information.
Do I have to actively use Command Skeleton to proc Zodiac's ring or just having it on the skill bar is enough?
Thanks for uploading this, answered several of my questions.
glad it helped you!
When you say numlock trick, what do you mean? Are you setting some kind of macro or keybinding so when you press #1,2,3,4 it also presses numlock on/off for you?
This was sick. I didn’t even know about these builds 😲
this more than a guide., really good job!
I think you've named all of these things I was thinking of ;)
but the hardest thing about RAT is to find a good team to play with
Your guidance is gold. Thank you.
Do you have a video of the dps necro that show all the skills?
regard
Is this build only for a group run or is it good solo?
For Solo runs, should there be some changes on the build?
Yeah I do have a question, I play rat dps, I just read without further elaboration that a znecro can give the group 100% chc.
Can someone explain this please?
Is all my chc useless? Would it be better to trade it for something else like attack speed or area damage?
TheMiig1513 zNecro can give crit chance because of corpse lance with the cold rune. Every corpse lance increases chance to be critically hit stacking up to 100% but it takes time to build up.
No. Don’t lose your crit at all. Your mage damage is 100% based off of your sheet damage. Most trash will die long before the zNecro has time to stack crit on it up to 100%. And u need crit to kill trash plus sheet damage for your singularity mages.
How do you num lock your skills??
P, would it be possible to get an update on this build for s20?
Gutless
What is the pig sticker for? Since zNec doesn’t deal Dmg is it just for the little bit of extra attack speed?
Thx for the vid
Great job P explained everything very well
Thanks!
Great guide, thanks! I just wanted to know if you really need max CD in every slot? I tested dropping 1% and it made no diff to my LOTD cd - 72.12% cdr total = 33 second cd of LOTD (max rolls on all but 1 item which is 1% from max + max paragon CD and born 10% set bonus) If I then use a max cdr build (72.41%) the LOTD cd is still 33 seconds...
Very good video. You did a great job explaining everything.
much more optimal build is to use ahavarion+ gloves of worship.
if u want to get the buffs you have to use frailty. thats why u probably didnt get the buff as often.
using death nova is enough to get land of the dead back running .
also go with briggs in the cube for poping strongarms and grouping the mobs.
stand alone much better for overall toughness during the rift than ratma shield.
BEst guild I found On the tubes!!!! Keep it up!!!
If you can cast skeleton, devour and death nova in the same time. However you can't cast death nova and corpse lance at the same time so therefor spamming corpse lance takes away casts from death nova in a way. That's the reason you shouldn't spam corpse lance. :)
Great vid, would it be possible to get this guide in "DiabloFans" site?? And is there a solo version of this? Thanks in advance for ur time.
There is, it's in the video description. But www.diablofans.com/builds/98469-zesty-znec-best-how-to-rat-znec-guide-video-gr-95 , here it is again.
How about that Attack Speed?
Great video! Please make all classes and builds like this. Lol seriously tho such a great explanation man
Thanks Greg!
I can't seem to get numlock to work with the other skills with Devour on numlock as well, any insight?
If you numlock 4 skills instead of just 1 (eg devour) doesnt it generate less globes?
Has there been any updates to this build?
Just pinned a gear update to the top.
Song?
I am aware of the numlock trick but for any reason, I can't numpad all 4 abilities just like you do so effortlessly in the video. Any suggestions? :(
Numlock 4, Numlock 3, Numlock 2 and then Numlock 1. Do them each separately. Works for me.
Great video, p!
Maath here :D
Thanks Maath!
Is it possible to do solo with this build¿ because I tried and feel like it doesn’t do much damage.
Nope, this is a group speed run build only. Z in zdps = zero. No dips, no killing anything. Check this out for solo: ruclips.net/video/fX8-mNt7evk/видео.html
Amazing explanation, thank you very much!
Nice guide. I think I'll go necro for s15. Thanks for the build. Does the z necro or dps necro work with different 4man comps or is it pigeonholed into this specific setup?
zNecro ONLY works with a Rat dps at minimum. You can two man zNecro (skills/build changes some) this guide is for the 4 man zNecro. You could take this build into two or three player groups and it would work though.
zNecro does zero damage (that's what the "z" means)
I love your guides!
Could this build work to a certain extent solo?
Nope. It's only for group play. Check this out for solo pushing: ruclips.net/video/fX8-mNt7evk/видео.html
Very good guide. Ty
Very well explained.
The royal ring of grandoor!
THX Man nice guide👍🏻
any updates to this for season 18? For znecro?
How do you num lock corpse lance with devour and LOD? It doesn't seem to work for me but I can num lock devour with LOD.
awesome guide thank you so much.
Born and Captain should be crafted with Strenght or Dexterity for additional armor
Hi and thx for the vid. Can you pls elaborate on why some ppl think that the skellies is a bad idea over frailty? Most groups im in does 100s in anything from 2 to 4 mins and i use frailty and avarion+gloves for shrine bonus. Ty for any reply.
It depends on the group your with, but some groups like the necro to run Frailty with the 18% rune, and then both necros can run decripify borrowed time for more uptime on their sim CD. As I said in the video I think the frailty builds are slightly more efficient, but a LOT more work to play if you're doing rats for days. So a lot of people opt for Command Skeleton because it resets the CD on Land of the Dead really fast, and gives you almost 100% uptime.
Both options work very very well. Play them both and see what you like more, that's what I did.
Don't 2 decrepifys cancel each other out?
Is this build good for pushing GR solo like 100+?
nice guide
Will this work on Season 17 :) ?
if you're pushing rat runs, wouldn't you also run a zmonk?
Good guide for the community. But I have a question... Shouldn’t the Znec run Frailty - Aura of Frailty? I mainly play Rathma build and I’ve never heard of or seen a Rathma build that has frailty in it. They usually have Land of the dead or Decrepify. I’m quite new to the build.
Cheers.
Yes, generally Aura of frailty is preferred over command skeletons
Can you get banned from using macros i just wanna be sure also my keyboard is a razer one so i was thinking if it would work
So this is just as efficient as pestilence if not faster while also being a lot easier/lasier to play? Been looking for a real fast mob killer. The faster the better. Been looking for builds that speed up all around farming no matter what i was doing. So far pest is fast but i havent played manybif any ither types of builds. Someone the other day tried to explain nightmare builds and i didnt know how much faster that build wouod be... idk its all so confusing... i essentually want to go into a room one click die and move out asap in GR. I play on xbox pc and switch.. lately just switch.
do you have a guide for 2 man group? you can't huh? because you really need 4 man group.. i only play with my friend 2 man all the time.
Hi why dont you like the znec build with ahavarion and shrine gloves instaed of born or 4pcs pestilence?
I did talk about using the 4pc pestilence, (11:35) I talk about the Stinky zNec (4pc pest). I ran the ahavarion and shrine gloves combo first (my very first zNec spec) and I found the ahavarion gloves didn't proc often for me. Maybe the Ahavarion is bugged? I dunno.
.you have to be the one that kill the demons, for that to happend u have use frailty
the quality from a zbarb comes from his skills, i've seen pretty better zbarbs with lower pickup radius than some with more radius that just don't help. If the barb is good pickup radius is just a complement not a requisite
thumbs up! thanks for this
Nice!
Does this work solo?. Even with 60% cdr lod still takes a while to cool down. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong
James Crudele nope. Doesn’t work solo. It’s a zero DPS build. You support the rathma necros
Thanks bro
Point of Ruby in gear instead of amethyst or topaz or diamond?
It's explained in the video. (10:15)
Hi, can this be used for T13 for solo?
Nope, it's a support build. Requires someone else to do the killing.
What is the best way to level this build?
You don't. This is a Rat Run Support build.
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Zbarbs that don’t suck at life only need 16 pick up radius 👍. That way they can wear star instead of locket, which I guess you would only care about if you play HC.
Best Guide ! +1 Sub :)
damn man.. back on good old diablo days this guide would have at least "deserved" 5mill views.. but there is hope. D4 XD
what a great video
with all the ptr buffs I can't see these runs being the fastest anymore
Has there been updates to this build?
It's in the description, but yep. www.diablofans.com/builds/98469-zesty-znec-best-how-to-rat-znec-guide-video-gr-95
Hi pchild, yes I saw the link. It showcases the 3 price pestilence set. The gear seems to be very similar as in you march video. I was curious if I can apply this build to the current meta for this season. Thanks again.
Damn, this is awesome!
Can znecro be adapated for group play without Rats?
rakivmoo not really. It does zero dps. It’s a pestilence based build. So I suggest trying some pesti builds. I have a pest guide on my channel too. Check it out.
Did I miss the part on what's in the cube ?
Yep you did, it's at (06:15 )
Do you have a DPS Rat guide for this?
www.diablofans.com/builds/97309-2-3-or-4player-group-gr-110-insane-dps
Just a written guide, but it's pretty straight foward.
Pchild thanks
Pchild do you guys run in discord by chance?
Yep, there is a link under my twitch video feed in the profile section. twitch.tv/thapchild
nice video =)
So you just put all ur moves on auto cast and move and then afk and then move and then afk, sounds fun
what is that 'z' on those builds? what does it mean?
z stands for zero, so znecro = zero dps necro, because you are all about cdr, cc and utility, rats are the dps in the group, 2 dps, 2 supports (zs)
Sliddan thanks. Makes sense
Question guys ,maybe i am a noob,idk :D
How do you move with the left click using blood rush
If you hold the shift key down while left clicking it's force attack (aka use the ability instead of moving).
hey pchild Alavar#1624 here...wondering how to keep up Cdr whilst moving...with gogok proc my cdr is just under 74% ...IAS is 38% or 2.30 with gogok procs and i'm still getting complaints that things are not frozen while I'm teleporting around looking for packs...I have Command skeles and devour only only on lock.....i'm very new to Znec so Im sure there is something monumentally wrong that I'm doing to not have LOD 100% uptime...is it just that I'm not Numlocking LoD as well? Or am I just not moving Fast enough between packs...to spam Nova?
Alavar POE depending on the build your using your zodiac ring is needed to keep 100% uptime. You need to hit things with command skeleton and nova or spear. You need to micro pause while moving at times and hit things.
I need to make an updated guide with current builds.
omg i watch this too late
Great explanation
Does your damage come from the poison gem ? I'm looking for an alternate build to the pestilancer because it's, well, boring, but i don't know how to deal dmg without the 6set bonus
Jussi the "z" in the name mean "zero damage". The rathma necs do all the damage for party. Znecro is only there to help keep them alive.
Thank you, I was wondering what the z meant myself.
znecro is only there to feed them resources
How is this build in solos?
This is a group play only build. It's worthless in solo, the z stands for zero dps. AKA support.
Thank You
Is numlocking bannedable ?
yousef alamer no
It's also funny that when when you are running around completing a GR in 2 minutes you look like rats scurrying around. 😁
amazing
Excellent.