Fluf, your videos and builds got me back to playing D3. Loving all the content and your positive attitude. Best of luck with your upcoming projects/videos. Keep up the good work :)
Your awesome dude coming from one solo player to the other these necro speed build slike the bloodmage and the singularity speed build have helped me level on gems and paragon level but anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your help
Sounds well rounded. Use Razor Teeth for T13 rifts/bounties/ low gem levels, use this for mid high GR, use your solo/group highest for 100+ Sounding good!
Insane build I hope blizz doesn't nerf this. On console we don't have the chance to test these ptr changes so I really hope this build makes it through the ptr to live so we console players can try this out.
Great video Fluff :) Have you considered (for the gr 80+) using Blind Faith (with cubed Pauldrons) and using the Shallow graves rune for the 2 extra seconds (would lower the required CDR for the build) or Plaguelands for the 4rth poison skill. OR cube the Cord of sherma belt (instead of greaves) - would require testing though.
CDR ~51% Pretty darn good/fun build Fluff, and it is fast! Note#1: Density is your friend, and you do better without a lot of walls and doors. I got stuck a couple of times where LotD wasn't back up and I hadn't had an elite pack for a bit, then it struggles as you Blood Rush about (which still gives you great speed btw) trying to get some corpses, being sure to keep up BA and throwing the occasional Bone Spear. I can see where this might present a problem at higher GRs if you get the wrong map. One time I made the mistake of casting LotD at the end of a fight with 2 elite packs and a rare pack, used up all of the corpses and their purple orbs spawned the RG, but LotD was on cooldown. I had to Blood Rush around for about 15 seconds until LotD came back up, then the RF went down in moments. Note#2: On a big open map, the screen fills with lances coming from every direction and you basically stroll through the map massacring everything and you practically have perma-LotD. Don't even need the pylons, but the rifts end so quickly that I was really surprised at how fast it went (2 - 2.5 minutes!) and then the RG goes down lickety-split. Note#3: It takes some getting used to, you have to juggle your use of Bone Armor, casting CorpseLance a bit, Bone Spear, Blood Rushing every few seconds (keeps up your speed), Devour and keeping your eye on LotD.
Great build fluff. Tried it out before ya posted the vid cuz I saw u on the solo ptr leaderboards lol. Love the build. I switched a few things ya had. Blew through a 85 no problem. When do u stream on twitch?
Holy fuck. Just tried this build on the PTR, 2m sheet damage and 21m toughness, Just blew through a 70 in 2 1/2 minutes like it was nothing lol. I can see this build getting nerfed. A lot. hitting 200+ billion corpse lance and melting RG in half a second. Sweet jesus. Blizzard, don't fuck this over XD
wizard class is completely trash compared to necro, mate. you can kill the rg in one rotation in gr100-110 without even stacking stricken much. played wizard as well past seasons (wasnt a main wizard and not that good i admit) and had some issues to kill the rg with just one or even two archons. at a certain point necro is kinda face roll and outdamages other classes by far. no doubt about that
Quick question about corpse lance (skill). How often is that actually used? Looks like it's only there to trigger the 3rd poison skill or double elites. The main source of damage comes from devour, is that right? I also really like how dislocation is your shield to keep mobs from one shot while in between blood rush. Can't wait to set this one up.
That's pretty much right, you only corpse lance when you need to focus down an elite or get the third poison stack. If you play a variant with Leoric's crown you can be a bit more liberal with the corpse lance firing.
Devour does 0 damage. It is only used because the 2 piece set bonus of the pestilence set makes it fire corpse lances at nearby enemies. Corpse lane is doing almost all of the damage
Tried ! Really impressive ! With Johnstone the build is really squishy :( Have to use Compass rose set. On my season 12 necro 780 paragon can clear 80 under 2min (my best GR96 760 paragon rathma set and GR110 normal also rathma), thanks for the build Fluffy, just discovered your channel. However if map is bad I'm not gonna clear 80 under 2min ^^ maybe 6-8min but I really like this build.
Thank you for your answer! I just read diablofans and your recommendation, I still using johnstone instead of endless walk set ! That's the problem..+ I only have 1 100 000 sheet damage with it(its just my seasonal small 780 paragon) Very different from my rathma. Keep farming good endless walk set! Should I use Blight Nova instead of Bone spear? Thanks again for your video!
A little update :( Tried 80 with my rathma set on 795para (1 800 000 dmg, GR96 cleared season 12 leaderboards), cleared in 2min50 ... I just one shot any trash packs. Blight build is too slow for me maybe just because I'm playing it badly I don't know.. clearing 80 in 6-10min with it :((( too fragile dying everytime especially if map is full of spearmen...need quite longtime to kill elite Boss, can't understand (I have every right passives, skills..runes..60% CDR...Poison skill dmg on wrists, kanai cube perfect) :( I think just damage is way too low with my blight build, around 900 000 - 1 000 000. Of course you have Primal ancient and 17xx paragon, I can do GR95 with my 1260para rathma under 5min for example , and I have 3 500 000 sheet damage (cleared GR110 on leaderboards). I think to clear GR80 with Blight build under 2min30 you need 2 000 000 as minimum. Anyway I love the build, working perfect to farm T13 and Bounties, I always finish 2 acts before others with it! I really think my sheet damage and low paragon on seasonal char is the issue! Let me know what you think Fluff!
Do you have any build that you can recommend to play with a group of friends doing 80-90 runs? I mean, everything that I tried looks kinda squish or slow (waiting on cooldowns). My friends dont really care about meta groups, so they're playing a WD, monk and barb.
hmm seems like the wiz tal/vyr combo strong and high cdr. but still cant decide what to start either dh bc i love them or necro since i want to try one. not sure what the best to start with yet
I'll give this a shot once I get my hands on some more pestilence parts, as I've had so much fun running Bonespear for the entire way from 51 to paragon lv 199, and still am using that thing right now until I am done with part 4 of the seasonal journey. After that I'll propably switch to a Trag'oul skele-mage build because it seems a lot more fun than Trag'oul corpse lance. And , using bone spear, even if only as a piece to power up corpse lance, to pay tribute to all the time it easily carried me through is nice. ...Or I might farm for pets, because I REALLY need charlotte now that I've seen her haha.
one question? I was wondering if there is any slight manipulation to this build that you haven't tried? I love this build but I suffer a bit with cooldown as of right now, but I will get there. Playing with this build and the inarius build as well. Do you have any ideas for other gear that may pose some use as I am scratching my head right now on what other things that players can use till they get what they need as far as jewelry and bracers or even another weapon option. Love the channel and keep up the good work! It helps me pulse my curiosity and try other things to see if I can get some interesting results or better.
season 17 made me buy a New pc and bought d3 second time since vanilla. the idea of seasons buff bonus is awsome! why did i wait 17 seasons to come back:(
Hey , can u tell me 2 things: is that Build good for High rifts to? like 100-130? and is that good / ok for Speed T13 Normals or Bountys? Thx man , nice video
Hey Fluff, Love the videos and your streams. Started doing hardcore this season and was wondering if you had any suggestions/changes to this build to make it hardcore viable?
Definitely run the endless walk variation for starters and keep the GR at a smooth farming level. In-geom builds are always kind of scary in HC since you skip trash and there's no real safe point to go back to if you proc death.
Thanks! Also which set would you recommend for pushing? Pestilence seems to be more popular, but Trag'ouls seems to be able to get tankier with the double health.
Question: is it possible to use Simulacrum instead of bone spear? don't know if Simulacrum triggers the 2 piece set bonus but if it does it can be a huge dmg buff.
Hi there :) Much love for our communities video makers, great stuff, great stuff. thanks for doing this for us. Scrolling through the comments i found some one else touching on the matter that also came to my mind, and that I was also thinking when i was watching your Barb Charge vid; monk is just much faster than this and its very missleading for newer players looking for info when they find this with "fastest build in the game" title. hmmm, not trying to come off as rude or a "i got the right answers" kind-of-guy. Did you test a kick or WoL monk on the ptr before writing that title? it's, just, so, CRAZY, fast. I'm a super wiz fan and wiz main sins vanilla, but mostly playing my kick monk these days cus its the fastest thing in the game for sertain things. keyfarming\lowlvl-gems mainly. come the ptr buffs, its gone be for leveling higher lvl gems to some degree as well. To answer the question the other guy dident answer about linking a monk clearing 90 in 3 min. Check PTR leaderboards. you can see gr89 cleared in 3.29 by a preeeeetty badly optimized monk with 1400 para and low level gems\augments (sorry LovinYoshi, dont mean to hate on your gear :D) - but thats over 3 min, you might say. yes. but i only mention that because it tells a lot about the strenght of the build. The better examples would be to see SneakyTurtles top 90 WoL clear, in a staggering 2 min 3 sec. Muscovite's 90 Kick clear in 2 min 50 sec. these are both 3.3k para accounts, must be mentioned! Cat's GR100 WoL in 5:07. Comparing to necro leaderboards where top 90 clear is 3:09 para 4.4k, thats a minute slower and a 1k para higher. and 4:26++ following him on the 90's. top 100 necro clear in 5:09 (2.5k para). This might tell us that for ISH gr90+ runs, it might not be very much of a difference in clear time between the classes; in runs where you actualy fight a bit vs the mobs. For levels where you basicly oneshot or just brainlessly farm, WoL reigns supreme. But low lvl farming is a bit off-topic. I'm pretty tierd while writing this, so feel free to tear me apart. :)
Just have to add for information that no other classes comes even close to these necro\monk times for gr100 and gr90 clears on ptr leaderboards. Rank 1000 DH is gr 92 so duno about the 90 for that class, good for them i guess.
I don't just use flair titles to trigger click bait, this IS the fastest solo speedfarm in the game. The PTR leaderboard has been reset over a dozen times. 90 in 2 minutes on a monk is fast, sure. But Necro farms 90 in 3 minutes consistantly, even with a shit rift. An in-geom build that's efficient at level 90! Insane! I understand you're going off of what you see on the PTR leaderboards but yes, i've play tested all the classes. Shadow DH 90s, Barb speedquake/SS 90s, WOL 90s, SWK 90s, condem 90s. The necro was the fastest and most consistant without being GG rift dependent. Its the only one of the speed 90s that can use in-geom at that GR level.
I'm almost convinced now that the necro is the fastest gr85+ farmer. I love that you test so thoroughly and can share the information from several classes perspective and I'm allways very interested in the what class\build is fastest for x and y type of farming. Today i've been fooling around on the PTR again, had to test some WoL 90's. Personaly I'm huge fan of dropping Kyoshiro's Blade for In-Geom but that left me with to little damage for 90's being worthwhile. Also most people use cinder coat in cube, but can easily be replaced by nemesis bracers, resources was not a problem for my monk rolling some cdr into rcr. Anyway what I'm really saying here is that it kind of sucked. :) I'll have to dropp several gr levels for in-geom setup to have enough damage (im only 2k para). I only ran like 7-8 runs with Kyoshiro's, best time being 3:51 as seen on PTR (char name Rainer, feel free to trash my monk setup guys) which really kind of dissapointed me. It was squishy, it was inconsistent damage output when not 1-3 shotting the stuff you fight and 3:51 being best result with a level being greater spire good density stuff. More normal time was around 5-7 minutes for me. I guess an account with around 4k+ para could maybe maybe do 90's with In-Geom to be quicker than necromancers, but for the man in the street it's a no-go and necromancers will do higher rifts faster, easier and with less gear and paragon. Really nice find on this necro speed build bro. I guess I'm making one, lol.
I hope this was not asked, Could you explain what triggers gogok and the CDR? sometimes i end up with more cdr than others and not sure why (great videos , easy to watch and listen to ,thankyou for all the work you put into them)
gotcha, That i get. Perhaps I was expecting to see the cdr working as i attacked on the CD of LOTD. I am working on "taking hits" to proc the passive. In HC it against every fivber of being to take a hit
Great build guide! Non related to the build but Any tips for a casual player with basic knowledge of the game? I'm hardcore playing everyday but limited knowledge. I need suggestions to push past 50gr I'm using rathma build with half the items in videos I seen any help would be nice
The Compass Rose you said was optimal is impossible, it always rolls int and movement speed and we roll the movement speed off =p. Great video and thanks for the nod. (between Diablo, Diablofans, and RUclips I have three different names, ha. NotGeorge, Aaronese, and Kamehapa accordingly)
Not to suck Blizzard's dick or anything, but every class got significant changes on the PTR. Barb, Crusader, Monk, Wizard and Necromancer all cleared a 110, with Demon Hunter at 109 and Witch Doctor at 105. We'll have to see how much of the buffs will make it live and when people start pushing the limits, but their attention has gone far past their precious little DLC class.
Hey, Lord Fluffy, thanks for this amazing build, very fun to play and satisfying to watch the whole screen obliterated in seconds. I have a question though, if you don't mind. What about Grim Scythe (with Cursed Scythe rune) for left mouse instead of Corpse Lance? It is a poison rune, too. That way it is still possible to proc Nayr's for a 3rd stack (just like Corpse Lance) and it would be nice to have a generator (sometimes, I ran out of essence between LoD massacres). And, what if we combine that with Leger's Disdain off-hand for a nice Grim Scythe buff (80% damage/essence x 12 essence = 960% additional damage)?? How much more/less viable will this be compared to Corpse Lance variant of yours??
Well there's a few problems with this: 1, you don't really want to be close enough to mobs to cast scythe and you're using zei's stone of vengeance which rewards you for being far away. 2, leger's disdain is great in inarius since inarius buffs ALL damage but pestilence does not, so the damage you'd be getting from legers is pretty trivial. 3, Corpse lance(our main damage dealer) would do less damage using the default rune(physical) and the chance for the AOE proc disappears which would further decrease our damage. 4, with over 50% cdr, it's pretty rare to run out of essence, assuming you're getting an in-geom proc with every use of LOTD.
Well, thanks for the quick answer. I think the reason I ran out of essence more than "rare" is my low paragon (around 600) and non-ancient gear (I only have 2 non-primal ancient) (I'm an eternal member of casuals :D). Therefore, my damage output is not top-notch and I desperately spam Empowered Bone Spear to kill stuff while waiting for the next LotD (It still takes a while even though I have 50ish CDR and in-geom. Obsidian ring of zodiac helps a lot at low levels, though). And unfortunately, I haven't switched to Zei's yet, because I still have to use esoteric alteration to stay alive (again the curse of low paragon and non-perfect gear). That is why I asked whether grim scythe is viable or not. But corpse lance doing less damage with default rune seems to be a dealbreaker for that swap.
How would this build work out at a start of a season? Stack CDR over CHC on neck/rings? Limited paragon (say 400, instead of 1700 in the video), no augments etc. Would it be viable?
It will definitely work for lower grifts as long as you still have decent CDR and a Zodiac. It obviously won't be as good but you will still clear 60s fairly easily at very low paragons.
Can you please write it down, in which order skills must be activated. English is not my native language, I couldn't understand everything unfortunately:(
2.6.6 Hey! I'd love to try this pestilence corpse lance (+ ring of grandeur for compass rose + johnstone (or new flavour) for travelers + crimson belt for vigilantes + captain crimsons boots or pants for pest boots or pants).
Do I use the build in the video or the one on DiabloFans? The equipment and some skills are different. I don't get why you would use Bone Ringer shield when you don't have Command Skeletons. Thanks in advance!
The DiabloFans Guide is kept up to date, but the video is a more tanky alternative. Bone Ringer is just a stat stick, there's no off hand that would benefit the build more than a good dps phylactery.
Lord fluffy does the Johnstone work with the 1500% dmg to corpse lance even if u dont fire yourself? so the passive *on kill effect* gets the extra dmg too? =)
The 2-piece power was great at first, but at a certain point, and not at that high a difficulty, it does so little damage you might as well not have it at all. I'm glad they are (probably) buffing it next patch.
It'll be decent outside it as well with the buff, though. Right now (outside the PTR and outside LOTD) I've had a dozen corpses shoot corpse spears at one white mob and barely scratch it.
hey fluff, could you please give me some ideas on how to survive with this set? I'm currently trying the cold variant, and I'm getting destroyed in GR72. I never had this problem with trag'ouls and in fact I felt really godlike because of blood rush being able to heal me and give armor in between elite packs. With pestilence I'm getting literally 1-shot left and right, at a distance and close range...I just feel so helpless in between elite packs and waiting for lotd. It just feels like I should be playing rathma if I'm to be turtling like this just to survive. I tried the gizzard gem and even swapping to draw life, but there is nothing really to regenerate when I'm just getting 1 shot. What do you think I could do? Using endless walk set as well, with relina's and the pauldrons in cube. Also RORG since I don't have the last piece of pestilence yet. I feel like if I'm doing something wrong because all the GR leaderboards use pestilence and I'm just dying constantly.
There is no cold variant of this build. Are you talking about the push build? What GR are you attempting? And RORG in the push build? No, you need 6p pestilence.
yea sorry - i meant the popular build with brittle touch and practically no speed. I'm only attempting gr72 and i'm getting destroyed using the 5p pestilence set with rogr. What am I missing out on using the 5pc vs 6? Besides subbing in convenent of elements as a ring and cubbing krysbin's sentence for more damage. Damage is great, what I want to solve is how to not get 1-shotted all the time. Again, I never had this problem with trag'oul's set and it's practically the same build minus the lack of all the bloodrush runes.
I'd recommend watching the poison lancer video I made, we go into a lot of details on how the push build works. If you h ave more questions after that, stop by the stream.
would like to see what your thoughts are on my current build for my necro. so far ive cleared up to lvl 50 gr solo but i do run with people running higher. i just dont have the damage output for solo. if you could please reach out to me.
Pop on a Fang instead of Geom (debatable), use Leoric instead of Stuart, and use the Life from Death passive, this will make a crazy good replacement for zNec in the rathma 4man speed setup.
Might need to make extra changes like drop Nayr's for shadowhook to use cold lance and/or curse. Though I guess at that point it'd just be a zNec wearing full 6pc Pest.
I was actually thinking about if this build could be implemented into 4 mans with a good few changes, I was thinking more along the lines of pushing rather than speeds though. www.diablofans.com/builds/94754-2-6-1-theorycraft-pestilence-pushing-build . You could probably put in Life For Death on a Hellfire and accomplish similar things. though the version I linked moves a bit slowly.
damn i wish blizz will not nerf pestilence and this set will be in haedrig's gift in S12 'cause it's look pretty damn good for speedfarming ty dude for another tasty guide ^^
If phylactery is a stat stick, why not use 2 handed schyte for the weapon damage and cube the ingeom instead? Are the stats on onehander+phylactery outweighing the wpn dmg of 2 handers?
So the damage of a perfect 2hander is rivaled by a 1h/phylactery but that's before even considering the "stat stick". 10 crit, 8 cdr on a CDR dependent build is amazing. You can try a 2hander though, I certainly did in my testing.
Hello i've 2 questions: 1.is this build still working in season 14? 2:if i poped frozen land i do only spam devour and not spam devour + cropse lance? nice vid btw :)
The build is arguably the fastest solo speed farm in the game. You numlock devour and spam bone spear for the most part. I'll be releasing a Q&A video for Blight Spear soon.
Love this build Fluff, but I keep getting killed when speed running 75s. I still finish in 2 to 3 minutes, but I can’t quite make it thru 100% of the time without death. Any additional recommendations?
this build is particularly squishy, it's just a matter of avoidance really. You'll also notice, the more damage you get(better gear and augments), the more inherently tanky you become due to high intelligence(resistance) and higher damage. I probably die one in every 5 runs or so. Some mob types are just impossible to deal with. Tongue lashers, lacuni prowlers etc...
have they made any changes to this setup? Have they nerfed it or are there any news that say this will be nerfed or not added at all? Or will this build be added to live as seen in this video?
Thanks nice guide. Whats wrong with the cube or the crown. How does double cdr on 12.5% equal only 5%? Same thing with the sheet cdr. If i use a calculator i have 51% cdr total. But my sheet says some shit like 49.32.......... and so does yours. Please tell me how thats possible. Is it one of the many little errors blizzard cant be bothered to fix?? Ban all botters......
Tonni Sandholm I’m not sure I understand the context of your question. CDR has diminishing returns. So say you had 7 pieces with 10% CDR, your sheet won’t show 70 due to diminishing returns.
Thx for the answer clears tings up. But why the diminishing returns? Seems to just compilcate things needlessly. Do they "tax" other stats aswell? Like your channel and made an Inarius farmer that I enjoy alot and lazy truly is a fitting word to describe that one xD. Thx for the vids.
Bit late but... there is 2 reasonings for it. 1) If there would be no diminishing returns on it, the values would have to be much smaller per item, you wouldn't even notice cdr on 3-4 items. It's value for 1 per item would be kind of devalued. Specs with lower amounts needed would have to get cdr on many more slots to reach that magical point. This way it allows for few rolls to make a change already while many rolls are still to max out the possibilities. 2) Let's say an Ability has 10sec CD time prior to any reductions. Your character has at the moment 30% cdr (=70% of the cd still left). => 10sec *0.7 = 7sec CD left If you'd now equip an item with 10% cdr.... it really does what the item is telling you, your current cd will be reduced by 10% of the current value if you equip it. So the calculated CD will be reduced by 10% of the currently left amount (=90% of the currently left amount will be left afterwards) => 7sec *0.9 = 6.3sec ~~~~ WARNING ~~~~ MATHMATICS ~~~~ IF BEING ALLERGIC SKIP THIS PART TILL THE END ~~~ So, any new CDR will be reduced by the amount of the cdr you already got (calculated easier with the opposing values I used in brackets before, 20% cdr = 80% cd left => *0.8 and so on) 30% cdr being advanced by an item with 10% more cdr = 70% current left CD, being reduced so that only 90% them(those 70%) will be left = 0.7 * 0.9 = 0.63 => 63% remaining CD time (=37% cdr) The other way calculated would be: "30% reduction being increased by 10% (that also are reduced by the 30%)" = 0.3 + ( 0.1 * ( 1 - 0.3 ) ) 37% cdr ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THIS IS THE EARLIER CALLED END ~~~ NOTHING TO WORRY AFTER THIS (****) ~~~~ So, as you hopefully did understood from 1) The diminishing return is actually just helping out with lower amounts. The current cdr caps we are allowed to reach, would also be our caps without diminishing returns. They would have just adjusted the numbers to different, lower amounts to fit the regulated growth. (example) (****) I lied, whoops, MOAR MATHMATICS! Either with diminishing returns like: "There are only 3 slots and those all can roll 20% cdr" = 0.8 *0.8 *0.8 = 0.64 *0.8 = 0.512 ==> 51.2% left cd (=48.8% cdr) Or additive: "3 slots and they all can roll 16.26666...% cdr" = 16.26666....% cdr + 16.26666....% cdr + 16.26666....% cdr = 32.53333...% cdr + 16.26666...% cdr = 48.8% cdr ==> same result If you go for the cap, there would be no change for you, you'd still want "as much as possible on as many items as possible", but reaching smaller values is much easier with the system of "bigger values but with diminishing returns". But it's actually also in some way helping people with high amounts of stacked cdr - As long as they just maximize to optimize (this build for example, more LoD uptime = more dmg and more uptime on the AoE freezing effect not "being forced" to reach a certain breakpoint). For example, you got like (made up numbers again) "65% cdr", 2 items being 1% lower rolled than possible. Thanks to diminishing returns those each 1% rolls are actually just 0.35% and 0.3465%. Being forced to reach certain higher area breakpoints (so, an exact value that divides "any value before, same result: not enough" and "value reached: circumstance unlocked"; synchronizing LoD to the CoE ring cycle as an example) achieving that certain value - or even excelling that value - can be frustrating if being close before and the value gained being... ALMOST enough... Like you have 60% cdr, you have to reach 65%. You get one item where you did not have any cdr on, yet. Bam, 10% cdr roll on it! 60% cdr + 10% ( *0.4 ) = 64% ..... :P But since cdr as example is something with a cap (when you got all possibilities, you got 'em - capped), the circumstance of this "ugly case" is not to be seen as some form of punishment for being a high number, it is just being not rewarded for being a small one. ;) Besides the bit more difficult calculations though, diminishing returns on cdr (due to being a stat with a ~certain cap~) really isn't something bad. Diminishing returns on something without such a "certain cap", it would of course punish "infinity for being such a high as fuck value" :P If you got through this and survived, take this 'Potato of Donor' to your right ---> O
The endless walk variation can make things easier. Outside of that, just smart blood rushing. After I kill an elite pack, I'm non-stop spamming the skill until I find the next pack.
Agreed, once En-Geom is proc''ed it's pretty smooth sailing, it's when it's down that I'm having issues, especially at the start of the rift when there are no elites.
Sometimes I'll blow my LOTD cooldown just to survive the start of a rift, then I just try to stay away from everything and spam spear to get it back. It is squishy, so when LOTD is down and you're trying to get it back up with spear, that's the scary time. I die plenty as well. But even when I die, I finish the rift in 3 minutes.
Would this build be useable in Season 11? I realize the stats will be lower, resulting in lower GR's and less fast clearing of T13, but would it be playable?
Lord Fluffy In hind sight I figured that. Too bad, was hoping to play this, even if it meant a less powerful version. A little patience needed then 😋 Thx for the reply, keep up the great videos!
Dude, I love your Necromancer D3 videos, subbed. Been watching a while now, keep it up! These videos make me happy!
This is my favorite necro build by far! Insanely fun and interactive.
Nice setup Lord Fluffy. I'm gonna try this out with the Leoric's crown in the cube.
Fluf, your videos and builds got me back to playing D3. Loving all the content and your positive attitude. Best of luck with your upcoming projects/videos. Keep up the good work :)
Agreed, he makes some sweet ass videos.
This build is so much more fun than what I was playing.
Just came to comment without even analyzing or accessing anything to immediately say NERF!!! J/k, watched the whole thing, I love you man :)
Your awesome dude coming from one solo player to the other these necro speed build slike the bloodmage and the singularity speed build have helped me level on gems and paragon level but anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your help
N'to - Trauma (Worakls remix) ... thx for it! Didnt expect it there ... and thx for ur work on builds of course!!
This is almost the build that I have been working on with Pestilence. I am glad to see it will actually work soon :)
Wonderful speaker - even for me as a german pretty much easy to understand. Great job
Same thing here from France, that's so fucking comfortable! ^^
Holy crap, i just made a necromancer and build this one in an hour.... This is incredible...
Sounds well rounded. Use Razor Teeth for T13 rifts/bounties/ low gem levels, use this for mid high GR, use your solo/group highest for 100+
Sounding good!
Thank you ! That's the build i was kinda trying t put together, you variant is nice i'm goin to try it
haha, I love how at the end the Hero was dancing along with the beat.
Dude that Spider pet is amazing!!
Thanks, appreciate it. Level of detail is definitely worth a sub.
Insane build I hope blizz doesn't nerf this. On console we don't have the chance to test these ptr changes so I really hope this build makes it through the ptr to live so we console players can try this out.
amazin! can't wait for new season! any way all of yours builds are DOPE try them all! good job
You've really helped me get better, thanks so much.
lordly, wish i had the ability to pay the game like you
Great video Fluff :)
Have you considered (for the gr 80+) using Blind Faith (with cubed Pauldrons) and using the Shallow graves rune for the 2 extra seconds (would lower the required CDR for the build) or Plaguelands for the 4rth poison skill.
OR cube the Cord of sherma belt (instead of greaves) - would require testing though.
Great video man! :) One small thing-The Compass Rose ring comes with Int and MS, so you would probably want a ring with Socket, CHC, CHD, CDR and Int.
sick build! excited to try it
CDR ~51%
Pretty darn good/fun build Fluff, and it is fast!
Note#1: Density is your friend, and you do better without a lot of walls and doors. I got stuck a couple of times where LotD wasn't back up and I hadn't had an elite pack for a bit, then it struggles as you Blood Rush about (which still gives you great speed btw) trying to get some corpses, being sure to keep up BA and throwing the occasional Bone Spear. I can see where this might present a problem at higher GRs if you get the wrong map.
One time I made the mistake of casting LotD at the end of a fight with 2 elite packs and a rare pack, used up all of the corpses and their purple orbs spawned the RG, but LotD was on cooldown. I had to Blood Rush around for about 15 seconds until LotD came back up, then the RF went down in moments.
Note#2: On a big open map, the screen fills with lances coming from every direction and you basically stroll through the map massacring everything and you practically have perma-LotD. Don't even need the pylons, but the rifts end so quickly that I was really surprised at how fast it went (2 - 2.5 minutes!) and then the RG goes down lickety-split.
Note#3: It takes some getting used to, you have to juggle your use of Bone Armor, casting CorpseLance a bit, Bone Spear, Blood Rushing every few seconds (keeps up your speed), Devour and keeping your eye on LotD.
"What if I were to tell you...." loving it Fluff keep it up, it's ya boy Necrotiic :P
Great build fluff. Tried it out before ya posted the vid cuz I saw u on the solo ptr leaderboards lol. Love the build. I switched a few things ya had. Blew through a 85 no problem. When do u stream on twitch?
No real schedule to be honest. Whenever I can
Just put speed build together and i love it great speed build
That is godly, uptime on LOD!
Great Job - your skill is awesome !!
Looks really fun. Any clue when 2.6.1 will be out to consoles? (I'm guessing roughly end of September, or whenever Season 11 ends.)
Great videos Fluffs,keep up the great work.So is that build viable and that strong now on live and can use Nova/Blight instead of spear?
150% more damage on live than as seen in video, it's a beast. You can use nova yes.
please test it with about 11 000 inteligence
it is like a paragon 900 with a few 70-80 augments
Holy fuck. Just tried this build on the PTR, 2m sheet damage and 21m toughness, Just blew through a 70 in 2 1/2 minutes like it was nothing lol. I can see this build getting nerfed. A lot. hitting 200+ billion corpse lance and melting RG in half a second. Sweet jesus. Blizzard, don't fuck this over XD
Not like tal/vyrs hasn't been doing this for the past 2 seasons lol.
wizard class is completely trash compared to necro, mate. you can kill the rg in one rotation in gr100-110 without even stacking stricken much. played wizard as well past seasons (wasnt a main wizard and not that good i admit) and had some issues to kill the rg with just one or even two archons. at a certain point necro is kinda face roll and outdamages other classes by far. no doubt about that
very fun build!! should I go full INT for augments? or save some for STR (defense)?
always full INT
1:30 Irish Rick O'Shea bring the party.
Quick question about corpse lance (skill). How often is that actually used? Looks like it's only there to trigger the 3rd poison skill or double elites. The main source of damage comes from devour, is that right?
I also really like how dislocation is your shield to keep mobs from one shot while in between blood rush.
Can't wait to set this one up.
That's pretty much right, you only corpse lance when you need to focus down an elite or get the third poison stack. If you play a variant with Leoric's crown you can be a bit more liberal with the corpse lance firing.
Devour does 0 damage. It is only used because the 2 piece set bonus of the pestilence set makes it fire corpse lances at nearby enemies. Corpse lane is doing almost all of the damage
I am pretty sure they meant the corpse lances generated from devour,versus the ones you hard cast.
Geno C Devour also triggers the buff. I guess he put it on skill bar to get the specific poison rune.
Devour does not actually trigger it, you have to manually cast it.
Perfect for this season, thanks for share!
Tried ! Really impressive ! With Johnstone the build is really squishy :( Have to use Compass rose set. On my season 12 necro 780 paragon can clear 80 under 2min (my best GR96 760 paragon rathma set and GR110 normal also rathma), thanks for the build Fluffy, just discovered your channel. However if map is bad I'm not gonna clear 80 under 2min ^^ maybe 6-8min but I really like this build.
6-8 min on blight spear in an 80??? no no no! Something is wrong. The worst I ever clear on 80 with a bad map is maybe 3.5minutes.
Thank you for your answer! I just read diablofans and your recommendation, I still using johnstone instead of endless walk set ! That's the problem..+ I only have 1 100 000 sheet damage with it(its just my seasonal small 780 paragon) Very different from my rathma. Keep farming good endless walk set! Should I use Blight Nova instead of Bone spear? Thanks again for your video!
A little update :( Tried 80 with my rathma set on 795para (1 800 000 dmg, GR96 cleared season 12 leaderboards), cleared in 2min50 ... I just one shot any trash packs. Blight build is too slow for me maybe just because I'm playing it badly I don't know.. clearing 80 in 6-10min with it :((( too fragile dying everytime especially if map is full of spearmen...need quite longtime to kill elite Boss, can't understand (I have every right passives, skills..runes..60% CDR...Poison skill dmg on wrists, kanai cube perfect) :( I think just damage is way too low with my blight build, around 900 000 - 1 000 000. Of course you have Primal ancient and 17xx paragon, I can do GR95 with my 1260para rathma under 5min for example , and I have 3 500 000 sheet damage (cleared GR110 on leaderboards). I think to clear GR80 with Blight build under 2min30 you need 2 000 000 as minimum. Anyway I love the build, working perfect to farm T13 and Bounties, I always finish 2 acts before others with it! I really think my sheet damage and low paragon on seasonal char is the issue! Let me know what you think Fluff!
Do you have any build that you can recommend to play with a group of friends doing 80-90 runs? I mean, everything that I tried looks kinda squish or slow (waiting on cooldowns). My friends dont really care about meta groups, so they're playing a WD, monk and barb.
hmm seems like the wiz tal/vyr combo strong and high cdr. but still cant decide what to start either dh bc i love them or necro since i want to try one. not sure what the best to start with yet
I'll give this a shot once I get my hands on some more pestilence parts, as I've had so much fun running Bonespear for the entire way from 51 to paragon lv 199, and still am using that thing right now until I am done with part 4 of the seasonal journey. After that I'll propably switch to a Trag'oul skele-mage build because it seems a lot more fun than Trag'oul corpse lance. And , using bone spear, even if only as a piece to power up corpse lance, to pay tribute to all the time it easily carried me through is nice.
...Or I might farm for pets, because I REALLY need charlotte now that I've seen her haha.
one question? I was wondering if there is any slight manipulation to this build that you haven't tried? I love this build but I suffer a bit with cooldown as of right now, but I will get there. Playing with this build and the inarius build as well. Do you have any ideas for other gear that may pose some use as I am scratching my head right now on what other things that players can use till they get what they need as far as jewelry and bracers or even another weapon option. Love the channel and keep up the good work! It helps me pulse my curiosity and try other things to see if I can get some interesting results or better.
which slot are you struggling with?
season 17 made me buy a New pc and bought d3 second time since vanilla. the idea of seasons buff bonus is awsome! why did i wait 17 seasons to come back:(
Hey , can u tell me 2 things:
is that Build good for High rifts to? like 100-130?
and is that good / ok for Speed T13 Normals or Bountys?
Thx man , nice video
Hey Fluff, Love the videos and your streams.
Started doing hardcore this season and was wondering if you had any suggestions/changes to this build to make it hardcore viable?
Definitely run the endless walk variation for starters and keep the GR at a smooth farming level. In-geom builds are always kind of scary in HC since you skip trash and there's no real safe point to go back to if you proc death.
Lord Fluffy Thanks Fluffmonster! I always enjoy your content and I look highly upon you for being active with your community!
Thanks! Also which set would you recommend for pushing? Pestilence seems to be more popular, but Trag'ouls seems to be able to get tankier with the double health.
I really think pestilence is a little easier to get a higher clear, even though you're seemingly more squishy and minus 1 blood rush charge.
Thanks Fluff for the input :-) Good luck rifting
Really nice, which skill do you numlock ? Corpse or devour ?
only devour
Lord Fluffy thanks for your attention, what s the best build for bountys ? With blight spear , it s difficult when you should help IA
Question: is it possible to use Simulacrum instead of bone spear? don't know if Simulacrum triggers the 2 piece set bonus but if it does it can be a huge dmg buff.
simulacrum only copies "secondary skills" which corpse lance is not. Furthermore you need bone spear to proc obsidian ring of the zodiac
Hi there :)
Much love for our communities video makers, great stuff, great stuff. thanks for doing this for us.
Scrolling through the comments i found some one else touching on the matter that also came to my mind, and that I was also thinking when i was watching your Barb Charge vid; monk is just much faster than this and its very missleading for newer players looking for info when they find this with "fastest build in the game" title.
hmmm, not trying to come off as rude or a "i got the right answers" kind-of-guy. Did you test a kick or WoL monk on the ptr before writing that title? it's, just, so, CRAZY, fast. I'm a super wiz fan and wiz main sins vanilla, but mostly playing my kick monk these days cus its the fastest thing in the game for sertain things. keyfarming\lowlvl-gems mainly. come the ptr buffs, its gone be for leveling higher lvl gems to some degree as well.
To answer the question the other guy dident answer about linking a monk clearing 90 in 3 min. Check PTR leaderboards. you can see gr89 cleared in 3.29 by a preeeeetty badly optimized monk with 1400 para and low level gems\augments (sorry LovinYoshi, dont mean to hate on your gear :D) - but thats over 3 min, you might say. yes. but i only mention that because it tells a lot about the strenght of the build.
The better examples would be to see SneakyTurtles top 90 WoL clear, in a staggering 2 min 3 sec. Muscovite's 90 Kick clear in 2 min 50 sec. these are both 3.3k para accounts, must be mentioned! Cat's GR100 WoL in 5:07.
Comparing to necro leaderboards where top 90 clear is 3:09 para 4.4k, thats a minute slower and a 1k para higher. and 4:26++ following him on the 90's. top 100 necro clear in 5:09 (2.5k para). This might tell us that for ISH gr90+ runs, it might not be very much of a difference in clear time between the classes; in runs where you actualy fight a bit vs the mobs. For levels where you basicly oneshot or just brainlessly farm, WoL reigns supreme. But low lvl farming is a bit off-topic.
I'm pretty tierd while writing this, so feel free to tear me apart. :)
Just have to add for information that no other classes comes even close to these necro\monk times for gr100 and gr90 clears on ptr leaderboards. Rank 1000 DH is gr 92 so duno about the 90 for that class, good for them i guess.
I don't just use flair titles to trigger click bait, this IS the fastest solo speedfarm in the game. The PTR leaderboard has been reset over a dozen times. 90 in 2 minutes on a monk is fast, sure. But Necro farms 90 in 3 minutes consistantly, even with a shit rift. An in-geom build that's efficient at level 90! Insane! I understand you're going off of what you see on the PTR leaderboards but yes, i've play tested all the classes. Shadow DH 90s, Barb speedquake/SS 90s, WOL 90s, SWK 90s, condem 90s. The necro was the fastest and most consistant without being GG rift dependent. Its the only one of the speed 90s that can use in-geom at that GR level.
I'm almost convinced now that the necro is the fastest gr85+ farmer.
I love that you test so thoroughly and can share the information from several classes perspective and I'm allways very interested in the what class\build is fastest for x and y type of farming. Today i've been fooling around on the PTR again, had to test some WoL 90's. Personaly I'm huge fan of dropping Kyoshiro's Blade for In-Geom but that left me with to little damage for 90's being worthwhile. Also most people use cinder coat in cube, but can easily be replaced by nemesis bracers, resources was not a problem for my monk rolling some cdr into rcr. Anyway what I'm really saying here is that it kind of sucked. :) I'll have to dropp several gr levels for in-geom setup to have enough damage (im only 2k para). I only ran like 7-8 runs with Kyoshiro's, best time being 3:51 as seen on PTR (char name Rainer, feel free to trash my monk setup guys) which really kind of dissapointed me. It was squishy, it was inconsistent damage output when not 1-3 shotting the stuff you fight and 3:51 being best result with a level being greater spire good density stuff. More normal time was around 5-7 minutes for me. I guess an account with around 4k+ para could maybe maybe do 90's with In-Geom to be quicker than necromancers, but for the man in the street it's a no-go and necromancers will do higher rifts faster, easier and with less gear and paragon. Really nice find on this necro speed build bro. I guess I'm making one, lol.
Looks sick :) Does this still works or better to go with Rathma?
oh it still works alright!
I hope this was not asked, Could you explain what triggers gogok and the CDR? sometimes i end up with more cdr than others and not sure why (great videos , easy to watch and listen to ,thankyou for all the work you put into them)
all you have to do to trigger gogok is hit things, you can see the buff show up on your buff bar. It looks just like the gem and stacks up to 15.
gotcha, That i get. Perhaps I was expecting to see the cdr working as i attacked on the CD of LOTD. I am working on "taking hits" to proc the passive. In HC it against every fivber of being to take a hit
Whats the best way to make this build tougher while mainting speed as much as possible?
Great build guide!
Non related to the build but Any tips for a casual player with basic knowledge of the game? I'm hardcore playing everyday but limited knowledge. I need suggestions to push past 50gr I'm using rathma build with half the items in videos I seen any help would be nice
I'd start with blood mage. Very forgiving for any player.
whats the absolute last song called in this vid? during the Outro?
Yes please, more fresh builds =)
The Compass Rose you said was optimal is impossible, it always rolls int and movement speed and we roll the movement speed off =p.
Great video and thanks for the nod. (between Diablo, Diablofans, and RUclips I have three different names, ha. NotGeorge, Aaronese, and Kamehapa accordingly)
Pestilence went from garbage to godly so quickly lmao
DLC class;at least that was a good enough motivation to make necro good character
Not to suck Blizzard's dick or anything, but every class got significant changes on the PTR.
Barb, Crusader, Monk, Wizard and Necromancer all cleared a 110, with Demon Hunter at 109 and Witch Doctor at 105.
We'll have to see how much of the buffs will make it live and when people start pushing the limits, but their attention has gone far past their precious little DLC class.
Jonah Stutesman was god set in first iteration of closed beta so not surprised :)
What's the state of bat doctor in the ptr?
Arachyr bats is 2nd in the solo boards, but LoN Spirit Barrage is topping both solo and group
Does this work on 2.6.1? Just looking for something to speed farm NR T13 with
This is the best solo speedfarm in the game currently!
Hi Lord, can bone spear and corpse Lance be spamed at the same time? Thanks
the 2p pestilance lances can kick off the same time as spear but manually casting, you can't do both at the same time.
hello fluffy! just wondering why you chose black death over the petrified spike?
Raphael Julian Lee corpse lance does all of our damage in this build. Not bone spear
Hey, Lord Fluffy, thanks for this amazing build, very fun to play and satisfying to watch the whole screen obliterated in seconds. I have a question though, if you don't mind. What about Grim Scythe (with Cursed Scythe rune) for left mouse instead of Corpse Lance? It is a poison rune, too. That way it is still possible to proc Nayr's for a 3rd stack (just like Corpse Lance) and it would be nice to have a generator (sometimes, I ran out of essence between LoD massacres). And, what if we combine that with Leger's Disdain off-hand for a nice Grim Scythe buff (80% damage/essence x 12 essence = 960% additional damage)?? How much more/less viable will this be compared to Corpse Lance variant of yours??
Well there's a few problems with this: 1, you don't really want to be close enough to mobs to cast scythe and you're using zei's stone of vengeance which rewards you for being far away. 2, leger's disdain is great in inarius since inarius buffs ALL damage but pestilence does not, so the damage you'd be getting from legers is pretty trivial. 3, Corpse lance(our main damage dealer) would do less damage using the default rune(physical) and the chance for the AOE proc disappears which would further decrease our damage. 4, with over 50% cdr, it's pretty rare to run out of essence, assuming you're getting an in-geom proc with every use of LOTD.
Well, thanks for the quick answer. I think the reason I ran out of essence more than "rare" is my low paragon (around 600) and non-ancient gear (I only have 2 non-primal ancient) (I'm an eternal member of casuals :D). Therefore, my damage output is not top-notch and I desperately spam Empowered Bone Spear to kill stuff while waiting for the next LotD (It still takes a while even though I have 50ish CDR and in-geom. Obsidian ring of zodiac helps a lot at low levels, though). And unfortunately, I haven't switched to Zei's yet, because I still have to use esoteric alteration to stay alive (again the curse of low paragon and non-perfect gear). That is why I asked whether grim scythe is viable or not. But corpse lance doing less damage with default rune seems to be a dealbreaker for that swap.
How would this build work out at a start of a season? Stack CDR over CHC on neck/rings? Limited paragon (say 400, instead of 1700 in the video), no augments etc. Would it be viable?
no idea, may be something we test later
I guess I will wait and see then. Will keep up with the news!
It will definitely work for lower grifts as long as you still have decent CDR and a Zodiac. It obviously won't be as good but you will still clear 60s fairly easily at very low paragons.
Agree, I think the standard for me is clearing TXIII at a reasonable time in the start (5-6 minutes)
Can you please write it down, in which order skills must be activated. English is not my native language, I couldn't understand everything unfortunately:(
Is it still playable in s17 ?
Bararcky still one of the best builds for necro
@@LordFluffy1 Ty i'll give it a try !
I got a primal pestilence gloves. Int, vit, CHC, and 20% area dmg. Im thinking rolling off the area damage, would you roll for CHD or CDR ?
I would salvage them. You need cdr/cd/cc.
2.6.6 Hey! I'd love to try this pestilence corpse lance (+ ring of grandeur for compass rose + johnstone (or new flavour) for travelers + crimson belt for vigilantes + captain crimsons boots or pants for pest boots or pants).
Do I use the build in the video or the one on DiabloFans? The equipment and some skills are different. I don't get why you would use Bone Ringer shield when you don't have Command Skeletons. Thanks in advance!
The DiabloFans Guide is kept up to date, but the video is a more tanky alternative. Bone Ringer is just a stat stick, there's no off hand that would benefit the build more than a good dps phylactery.
Quick question....what makes obsidian pro?....I dont seem to be able to proc it
bone spear
Lord Fluffy thanks...i was just spammi devour thinking it would proc it
Powerful build, I recommend.
nice build guys
Lord fluffy does the Johnstone work with the 1500% dmg to corpse lance even if u dont fire yourself? so the passive *on kill effect* gets the extra dmg too? =)
it does work on the 2p pestilence
will it drain a stack or leave it be?
It drains a stack.
Isnt the "Gem of Effacicious Toxin" worth it to swp for BotT? another 100% right?
Toxin doesn't proc Nayr's Black Death
Does this work in group speeds? Im going necro next season and I don't know anything about this class. Thanks
Abdulrazaq Albinali it would work in speeds but not as well as rat runs
Please explain how you survive Im getting one shit by shit that cant really be dodged on t13.... And i have every piece includeing the cube...
You do get one shot, I don't think I sold this as a tanky build. You have to play smart and dodge often.
The 2-piece power was great at first, but at a certain point, and not at that high a difficulty, it does so little damage you might as well not have it at all. I'm glad they are (probably) buffing it next patch.
the 2p is insanely powerful with LOTD which is what this build is all about
It'll be decent outside it as well with the buff, though. Right now (outside the PTR and outside LOTD) I've had a dozen corpses shoot corpse spears at one white mob and barely scratch it.
Ya, on live it is terrible for anything beyond early game gearing
hey fluff, could you please give me some ideas on how to survive with this set? I'm currently trying the cold variant, and I'm getting destroyed in GR72. I never had this problem with trag'ouls and in fact I felt really godlike because of blood rush being able to heal me and give armor in between elite packs. With pestilence I'm getting literally 1-shot left and right, at a distance and close range...I just feel so helpless in between elite packs and waiting for lotd. It just feels like I should be playing rathma if I'm to be turtling like this just to survive.
I tried the gizzard gem and even swapping to draw life, but there is nothing really to regenerate when I'm just getting 1 shot.
What do you think I could do? Using endless walk set as well, with relina's and the pauldrons in cube. Also RORG since I don't have the last piece of pestilence yet.
I feel like if I'm doing something wrong because all the GR leaderboards use pestilence and I'm just dying constantly.
There is no cold variant of this build. Are you talking about the push build? What GR are you attempting? And RORG in the push build? No, you need 6p pestilence.
yea sorry - i meant the popular build with brittle touch and practically no speed. I'm only attempting gr72 and i'm getting destroyed using the 5p pestilence set with rogr. What am I missing out on using the 5pc vs 6? Besides subbing in convenent of elements as a ring and cubbing krysbin's sentence for more damage. Damage is great, what I want to solve is how to not get 1-shotted all the time. Again, I never had this problem with trag'oul's set and it's practically the same build minus the lack of all the bloodrush runes.
I'd recommend watching the poison lancer video I made, we go into a lot of details on how the push build works. If you h ave more questions after that, stop by the stream.
Pest is USEFUL thank god lmao
useful as in GODLY yes
does blizzard do their own testing on PTR as well?
no idea
would like to see what your thoughts are on my current build for my necro. so far ive cleared up to lvl 50 gr solo but i do run with people running higher. i just dont have the damage output for solo. if you could please reach out to me.
we can always give feedback on builds during my stream: Twitch.tv/lord_fluffy Although GR50 is very weak in the current state of the game.
Lord Fluffy yea i know but ive only been playing a few weeks now
Pop on a Fang instead of Geom (debatable), use Leoric instead of Stuart, and use the Life from Death passive, this will make a crazy good replacement for zNec in the rathma 4man speed setup.
Might need to make extra changes like drop Nayr's for shadowhook to use cold lance and/or curse. Though I guess at that point it'd just be a zNec wearing full 6pc Pest.
I was actually thinking about if this build could be implemented into 4 mans with a good few changes, I was thinking more along the lines of pushing rather than speeds though. www.diablofans.com/builds/94754-2-6-1-theorycraft-pestilence-pushing-build . You could probably put in Life For Death on a Hellfire and accomplish similar things. though the version I linked moves a bit slowly.
Do you guys have a link to any update pestilence build?
this is still the best
damn i wish blizz will not nerf pestilence and this set will be in haedrig's gift in S12
'cause it's look pretty damn good for speedfarming
ty dude for another tasty guide ^^
What in the PTR buff makes this possible there but not in live?
Damage increase on Pestillence 6-piece for both Corpse Lance and Bone Spear
This build makes me wanna play necro, holy shit
If this build make it into next season, do you think it could compete with the current Rathma Speeds ?
Yes. I think it would find it's way into the speed meta.
If phylactery is a stat stick, why not use 2 handed schyte for the weapon damage and cube the ingeom instead? Are the stats on onehander+phylactery outweighing the wpn dmg of 2 handers?
So the damage of a perfect 2hander is rivaled by a 1h/phylactery but that's before even considering the "stat stick". 10 crit, 8 cdr on a CDR dependent build is amazing. You can try a 2hander though, I certainly did in my testing.
Lord Fluffy thanks for the answer. :)
does this build still work in s17?
it does! still one of the top speed builds for necro
But not best though? :D
Hello i've 2 questions: 1.is this build still working in season 14? 2:if i poped frozen land i do only spam devour and not spam devour + cropse lance? nice vid btw :)
The build is arguably the fastest solo speed farm in the game. You numlock devour and spam bone spear for the most part. I'll be releasing a Q&A video for Blight Spear soon.
okay thank you fluffy for the quick answer and im lookin foward to your new vids :)
Love this build Fluff, but I keep getting killed when speed running 75s. I still finish in 2 to 3 minutes, but I can’t quite make it thru 100% of the time without death. Any additional recommendations?
this build is particularly squishy, it's just a matter of avoidance really. You'll also notice, the more damage you get(better gear and augments), the more inherently tanky you become due to high intelligence(resistance) and higher damage. I probably die one in every 5 runs or so. Some mob types are just impossible to deal with. Tongue lashers, lacuni prowlers etc...
Lord Fluffy thanks Fluff. Glad to know it's not just me. My damage is a bit in the lower side, and my cool down isn't where it needs to be.
nice Vid bro, What DPI do you use? 4Head
+54+654+65+564+654+654+
Sick DPI Dude
Is there a way to get necromancer without paying? I'm broke af lol
Cant u cast devour ans Corpse l. At the same time?
you can. For rotation help, see my Blight Spear Q&A Video
This is my build thanks
have they made any changes to this setup? Have they nerfed it or are there any news that say this will be nerfed or not added at all? Or will this build be added to live as seen in this video?
So they buffed it, then they nerfed it but it's still higher values than seen in this video. So it's coming to live for sure!
wait so they did nerf it from as we see it in this video?
The build is now not as strong as in this video?
What? no. The build is strong than it was in the video.
oh that is great
Hey Fluff, what's your ring in your real hand? :D lolol you got a website where I can see it?
One is a pretty basic celtic band, the other was custom made in egypt. A kartoosh that reads "Linsey"
I liked the funny intro ;)
Thanks nice guide. Whats wrong with the cube or the crown. How does double cdr on 12.5% equal only 5%? Same thing with the sheet cdr. If i use a calculator i have 51% cdr total. But my sheet says some shit like 49.32.......... and so does yours. Please tell me how thats possible. Is it one of the many little errors blizzard cant be bothered to fix?? Ban all botters......
Tonni Sandholm I’m not sure I understand the context of your question. CDR has diminishing returns. So say you had 7 pieces with 10% CDR, your sheet won’t show 70 due to diminishing returns.
Thx for the answer clears tings up. But why the diminishing returns? Seems to just compilcate things needlessly. Do they "tax" other stats aswell? Like your channel and made an Inarius farmer that I enjoy alot and lazy truly is a fitting word to describe that one xD. Thx for the vids.
Bit late but... there is 2 reasonings for it.
1)
If there would be no diminishing returns on it, the values would have to be much smaller per item, you wouldn't even notice cdr on 3-4 items. It's value for 1 per item would be kind of devalued. Specs with lower amounts needed would have to get cdr on many more slots to reach that magical point. This way it allows for few rolls to make a change already while many rolls are still to max out the possibilities.
2)
Let's say an Ability has 10sec CD time prior to any reductions.
Your character has at the moment 30% cdr (=70% of the cd still left).
=> 10sec *0.7 = 7sec CD left
If you'd now equip an item with 10% cdr.... it really does what the item is telling you, your current cd will be reduced by 10% of the current value if you equip it.
So the calculated CD will be reduced by 10% of the currently left amount (=90% of the currently left amount will be left afterwards)
=> 7sec *0.9 = 6.3sec
~~~~ WARNING ~~~~ MATHMATICS ~~~~ IF BEING ALLERGIC SKIP THIS PART TILL THE END ~~~
So, any new CDR will be reduced by the amount of the cdr you already got (calculated easier with the opposing values I used in brackets before, 20% cdr = 80% cd left => *0.8 and so on)
30% cdr being advanced by an item with 10% more cdr
= 70% current left CD, being reduced so that only 90% them(those 70%) will be left
= 0.7 * 0.9 = 0.63 => 63% remaining CD time (=37% cdr)
The other way calculated would be:
"30% reduction being increased by 10% (that also are reduced by the 30%)"
= 0.3 + ( 0.1 * ( 1 - 0.3 ) ) 37% cdr
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So, as you hopefully did understood from 1)
The diminishing return is actually just helping out with lower amounts. The current cdr caps we are allowed to reach, would also be our caps without diminishing returns. They would have just adjusted the numbers to different, lower amounts to fit the regulated growth.
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Either with diminishing returns like: "There are only 3 slots and those all can roll 20% cdr"
= 0.8 *0.8 *0.8
= 0.64 *0.8
= 0.512
==> 51.2% left cd (=48.8% cdr)
Or additive: "3 slots and they all can roll 16.26666...% cdr"
= 16.26666....% cdr + 16.26666....% cdr + 16.26666....% cdr
= 32.53333...% cdr + 16.26666...% cdr
= 48.8% cdr
==> same result
If you go for the cap, there would be no change for you, you'd still want "as much as possible on as many items as possible", but reaching smaller values is much easier with the system of "bigger values but with diminishing returns".
But it's actually also in some way helping people with high amounts of stacked cdr - As long as they just maximize to optimize (this build for example, more LoD uptime = more dmg and more uptime on the AoE freezing effect not "being forced" to reach a certain breakpoint).
For example, you got like (made up numbers again) "65% cdr", 2 items being 1% lower rolled than possible. Thanks to diminishing returns those each 1% rolls are actually just 0.35% and 0.3465%.
Being forced to reach certain higher area breakpoints (so, an exact value that divides "any value before, same result: not enough" and "value reached: circumstance unlocked"; synchronizing LoD to the CoE ring cycle as an example)
achieving that certain value - or even excelling that value - can be frustrating if being close before and the value gained being... ALMOST enough...
Like you have 60% cdr, you have to reach 65%. You get one item where you did not have any cdr on, yet. Bam, 10% cdr roll on it! 60% cdr + 10% ( *0.4 ) = 64% ..... :P
But since cdr as example is something with a cap (when you got all possibilities, you got 'em - capped),
the circumstance of this "ugly case" is not to be seen as some form of punishment for being a high number, it is just being not rewarded for being a small one. ;)
Besides the bit more difficult calculations though, diminishing returns on cdr (due to being a stat with a ~certain cap~) really isn't something bad.
Diminishing returns on something without such a "certain cap", it would of course punish "infinity for being such a high as fuck value" :P
If you got through this and survived, take this 'Potato of Donor' to your right ---> O
Nice. That clears up things. Like math ALOT. Tyvm for putting in the effort. Love it xD
How come when I am popping LoD my resource is not regenerated?
not spamming devour
I'm having issues surviving while moving between elites, especially at the start of the rift, any suggestions?
The endless walk variation can make things easier. Outside of that, just smart blood rushing. After I kill an elite pack, I'm non-stop spamming the skill until I find the next pack.
Agreed, once En-Geom is proc''ed it's pretty smooth sailing, it's when it's down that I'm having issues, especially at the start of the rift when there are no elites.
Sometimes I'll blow my LOTD cooldown just to survive the start of a rift, then I just try to stay away from everything and spam spear to get it back. It is squishy, so when LOTD is down and you're trying to get it back up with spear, that's the scary time. I die plenty as well. But even when I die, I finish the rift in 3 minutes.
Cool thanks for the insight man, def way more fun than the standard Pestilence push build.
So did anything change or still a good build.
It's actually slightly better than shown in the video on live. Been running it all season, it's a beast.
do you speed t13 with this build also? necro pleb here
Would this build be useable in Season 11? I realize the stats will be lower, resulting in lower GR's and less fast clearing of T13, but would it be playable?
Dendahrcus I wouldn't advise it. You're missing the new nayrs Black Death damage plus no corpse lance damage on pestilence 6p
Lord Fluffy In hind sight I figured that. Too bad, was hoping to play this, even if it meant a less powerful version.
A little patience needed then 😋
Thx for the reply, keep up the great videos!