i personally would’ve preferred if these new sigils came with a third substat in the special/support/defense category it wouldve been “worth” farming for upgrade materials but thats just me
So basically, Supp V+s are now mandatory if you want to run 4 of these and keep your quick cooldowns and cascades or any quality of life....nice. They heard the community saying damage cap is bad and did this. GG
They really are I’m almost debating dropping my sup5s for 4+ to just gain my utility back my current build only has room for 3 utility which are potion hoarder, improved dodge and third is a damn toss up between guys, auto, cascade or quick cooldown
the most i run is double Alpha/Gamma, i keep it at that. i dont want to sacrifice too much utility, which i inevitably do by using 4 of the new sigils. Yes i do less dmg than a min-maxed build, but what good is high dps if i am dead constantly? If i can have two more utilities that keep my alive, that is better than dropping on the floor, or being force to player overly cautious. Also: right now one of the best setups that you can run on characters ( and Cagliostro is a very good example of that) is with 2x Alpha and maxed out Uplift, as a form of an SBA initiator, which is probably impossible to do when you drop even more utility that probably can push the SBA gain while keeping you alive. Overall the sigils are nice to have but they are for all intense and purposes, NOT Mandatory, so don't listen to the Dummy parsers :D!
as someone that like to theorycraft and have a cheat save to test things out, those new sigils are hard to fit Before the update, you had 24 (all trait slots) - 2 (awakening) - 2 (war elemental) - 4 (dmg cap) - 3 (supp dmg) - 1 (critical hit), so 12 avaialbe slots to theorycraft, now 4 of those are removed so we need to work with 8 slots... Besides that, there's the issue that not all characters can cap with tyranny, life in the line and stamina anymore, so we need to start to use the imbuiment traits (before we used critical hit, any of guts/revive and another random trait)... basically min/max right now without cheating is impossible to make vaseraga hits his cap on the combo B full charged we need to remove 2 supp damage sigils from his ideal buils, but seeing him doing almost 8 million damage in like 10s is insane lol
Yes man, it sucks having to repeatedly do the same mission which is difficult as hell and you still have to waste time with stupid matchmaking errors like that
Stop complaining I only managed 1open match over 3 hours I tried changing download region 4 times spent all that time looking online to find out if the patch broke matchmaking-on pc btw
Man, the thing i hate the most, is that tears aren't guaranteed, around 7 kills with no drop, with the amount we are going to need, you would think they would make it 100%. I'm not all too excited having to kill him a hundred + times.
@@rejxdmouse It's Monster Hunter style of material farming. Joining the long legacy of Desire Sensor horror stories that stretches all the way back to the PS2 golden age.
My last fight I got two tears. I was shocked! But yeah I've beat the boss like 30 times and I went 8 rounds without getting a tear. I think the worst part is being matched with people who can't dodge xD
I noticed that the problem with these new sigils is the loss of Great sub traits in your DMG Cap V+ sigils, for example My Charlotta has Cascade and Quickcooldown on those Dmg Cap sigils but if i give her these new sigils i Will lose them and i already have a different sub traits in My other sigils, so at the end My decisión was between purely raw power or the chance of using My skills faster, i haven't decide yet
The new goal is to achieve Supplementary Damage V+ with these secondary effects, such as cascade or quickcooldown. Which is practically impossible... Good job Cygames!
@Aug5ome lol,i am also a eugen main we need military outfit with a general cap ,i entered a matchmake and it was all eugen, i got a disconnected and the ai used the eugens we killed p.buhmot very quickly
This mission was made so you cant afk. If the ai cant do the 12 labors you will permanently lose your max hp will be left with 1 if they dont do it correctly.
@gmrjayz Yeah.... I won with a group online but I can't seem to do it offline. 12 labours are a bi*tch to complete. It's only a matter of time with 1 HP. I don't want to resort to the Lancelot spam....
I've gone 5 games without a single one. I dont understand why they wouldn't allow the tears to be craftable or bought with dalia. At this point, I would sacrifice ambrosia/Damascus to craft them
I already tested out my lvl 30 alpha trait, and all of my allies didnt get a 30% boost to the SBA gauge when i used my SBA. Is this a bug or something?
After using your SBA all allies willl receive 10% sba but if you have Alpha at level 30 then all allies will get 15% sba. Thats all I have really noticed so far.
I wish the drop rate was better for the tear. Glad the fight is actually enjoyable over Proto Bahumat, since you can attack for most of the fight, just wish the grind wasn't as crazy but it's what we get with the game.
I don't think that Lucilius is enjoyable over Proto Baha, it has lots of cutscenes and long mechanic phases, so any lucilius raid is at least 20 min (if your team is experienced) proto baha was like hunting a dummy but with an experienced team it could be done in less than 10 min... Also, there are the rewards issue, we only need to farm lucilius like crazy because they stopped us from using azurite on the new sigils, so it's totally BS, it's a half baked content that was not designed to be farmable. I bet you that in future patches, when we have more content, lucilius sigils will be available to be upgraded with azurite, because it doesnt make sense to repeat this raid hundreds of time to just have a set of sigils at lv 15.
@@shimonami8960 my reasoning for Lucilius being more enjoyable is that you're contantly doing something and not waiting for him to land for burst phases. It just feels better than waiting for proto to do his crystals so you can enter a burst phase. I've gotten my Lucil clears down to 8-9ish mins, not with cutscenes. Pretty much the same time as an afk proto farm for me. For proto, you can sit in the corner of the ship and it'll dodge 75% of his attacks and you don't have to do anything until he does his crystal shield phase. If you've got enough dps, you can completely ignore that. But it's just how I prefer it if I'm going to actually play, instead of afk farming.
@@shimonami8960Honestly I don’t mind the cutscene, because you have to be fully focused in the time windows that you can do dmg in, so that you don’t get one taped and in the cutscenes you can breathe a bit before focusing again. And I also don’t mind the time it takes to clear, because before you cleared the harder bosses in 3-4min (no afk) so a 7+min run is kinda welcome. The only thing that is bad about this raid is the tear drop rate.
@@shiratsumi you are considering the in game timer, that freezes on some phases, if you are clearing it in 7 minutes you are actually spending near 15min for each run due to al the cutscenes and animations on the luclius fight, even a 4min run on lucilius is nearly 10min in real time
Wait why does the tears required for making these sigils everywhere i look say it needs only 5 tears and the max level is 30 but in game i need 7 tears to make it and the max level for it is 45?
It’s funny because I got one of those godly wrightstones you were talking about mine was stun 10 dmg cap 7 dmg cap 5 which meant I could lose a dmg cap and have an extra sigil… thing to me is atm there’s nothing challenging enough to make me want to remove it off my main Zeta, and whilst yes I could do some more damage I prefer also have plenty of utility. I really think the sigils should have had 3 perks to keep the roles interesting, also I think they changed those tears drop rates because the first few days I was doing ok once it got easier to beat lucilius now it’s 4-5 runs at least before I get one if I’m lucky maybe more. I think we needed at least a couple more challenging quests added, and tears for upgrades and splendours not being usable is just like wtf 😂
I finished the fight once. It's good for fun, but NOT for farm. Really. For this battle, I think automatic gain for 1st battle is fair. Not just 1 tear and more... 40 battles for more 4 tears? Stupid.
People are underestimating Gamma. Gamma's shield also works like a pseudo Stout Heart and is extremely good for missions outside of Lucilius. When you dont get knocked down and can confidently face tank hits, you can maintain your DPS and get more consistent results.
Unless you plan to stack both, i assume Gamma doesnt come with the actual Stout heart effect of reducing damage taken by 25%(Further increased by certain character masteries or certain sigil effects). Meaning until you get that first SBA off, your left nekkid if you are only wearing Gamma, where most units without a damage cut and ability to ignore interruptions in combat will get constantly yeeted to death, especially without any alternative means outside of sigil effects and buff effects to reduce damage. Plus until they rebalance things to make supplementary damage & Damage cap not need to eat up so much slots for thar respective amounts, this makes it too difficult to build flexibility. Which ironically its the damage Sigils themselves that get to ignore needing many slots since Stamina & Critical chance to 100% covers the majority of the needs, where one might only need a buff effect or another damage sigil effect to achieve hit the max dmg cap or so. Maybe if damage from criticals (including crit dmg boosters) did not adhere to the damage cap, working akin to supplementary damage instead, then that would put the need for direct dmg sigils back on the spot, while making supplementary damage sigils end up being worst off due to eating too many slots, but having to compete against critical chance instead. Never the less, at that point your stuck having to also stack up things like Link together to boost your link gauge gain just to make use of Alpha/Beta/Gamma`s effects faster, since you cant expect everyone else to run Alpha in multi player to grand an additional 3% SBA to enable faster loops. Once the first one goes off, they can be useful, but before then your just putting yourself in a risk of dead weight, when most likely already got things like improved dodge, potion hoarder, invincibility bonus thru perfect dodges and turn all dodges into perfect dodges as enough defensive means. Hell, it should be obvious that GBF: Relink put a sizable finger flip against in-battle buffs & Healing moves due to potion hoarder and the damage cap. So that needs to be reworked also in a number of ways, possibly making damage buffs & defense down applications result in a portion of damage ignoring the damage cap instead of being treated as the same as a standard atk/dmg increase as the stamina sigils end up being picked up for min-max damage cappery.
@@Aatred_ exactly, they over tuned things with too much damage so the end game could be a spammable farm. Which in turn sabotaged things for any actual end game without a rebalance of things first.
@@arttizkappa2588 yup, too much damage and nothing worth out of it. If it did something mold breaking like a sigil with three effects or a super unique effect where equipping 2 or even all 3 of them together gave ABSURD EFFECTS, that might of gave it value. But the fact they only did damage cap with selective damage cap with an effect that requires 2 SAME, copies ruin it. Hell here’s an easy way to fix it, each alpha, beta and gamma effect are locked to level 15 but in order to get the current level 30 effect you need two DIFFERENT ONES, equipped. That would have boost its value by getting five effects for the price of 4 slots instead of needing to use 4 affix slots to get the effects of 3. Since 3 instances of damage cap in 3 unique means and two SBA trigger effects instead of 2 unique dmg cap and one SBA trigger effect could have made it desire’able.
It could have been better if they made the 3 new sigils work together like gear sets instead of buying duplicates of each one. In order to use the max level benefit of each one you have to sacrifice 1 sigil slot in order to get that benefit. If they had made it at max level, the 2 set effect, the max level benefit will work. Then if you have all 3 max level sigils equipped, a new trait would be active or enabled.
I made some calculations to figure out how much this new sigils will improve the dmg, and, for my surprise, in a full perfect rotation, its improve just a ~5.5%, and this considering just the dmg, what I thinking is not good pay for it, because you may lost good sub support sigils, like quick cooldown, cascade, improve dodge, potion holder, etc. The point is the you have really really good sub sigils on supp dmg sigil, is good to you use the new gamma, beta and alpha sigil, and just that.
Exactly, if you only needed to equip one of them to get the level 30 effect instead, then they might be much better. But because of all the measures to `ignore` the damage cap, namely supplementary damage mostly, its impossible for side-grades to function unless they give an option that works. The idea of having two damage cap values on a single sigil can be impressive but conditionals end up make or breaking the worth-while value of them if theres no unit who actually has absurdly good use for it. Plus a 5.5%~ increase in damage ONLY if you do a full `perfect rotation` in damage, is not worth the trouble since the highest difficulty fights dont give much room to constantly pull off full unga bungas if you need to focus more on either guarding/dodging the attacks and be better off increasing your invulnerability frames then a risk of damage. This is why a certain `berserker` sigil and another sigil that `gives` extra damage cap, but causes every time you get hit to get dizzy is effectively worthless besides making mostly redundant farming grinds even faster, but ironically gets shot down in quick quest, one of the few places it could have value in, due to the hp/damage scale-back ruining so many builds, you likely need an entirely different build instead for them.
Honestly, I like games a where it is required to grind to get stronger and stronger but I did not appreciate not being able to upgrade new seals with azurites, especially with the drop rate of tears being so low.
Yup, slime pede spamming a hundred times is more favorable cause of easy brain dead strats and can almost auto farm it to an extent. If you could scrap old high level sigils to get some resources back then it could create a incentive to farm certain sigils to melt into the azurite instead, but even if you could spam it at 30 seconds a clear, it would get boring and burn out any enjoyment as a result. Ultimately, it’s better when you can have fun and get gains at the same time.
I don’t have a min maxed Sig, but all my gear/sigils are maxed.. i’m not beating Luci at all, with AI or players, skill issues i get it, but I think I’ll just pass on Luci and the Sigils, and just hella grind out Mats/sigils for Tweyen when she comes out. Then maybe I’ll give him another go, once I hopefully can min max her by then.
I have a question. Maybe someone knows. What if you replaced supp dmg overall? Get the maxed alpha beta gamma whatever then replace the 2-3 supp sigils with other v+. Would it be comparable to adding the minor supplemental dmg?
I can afk farm this pretty easily using lance with fight over flight. Turbo the Y button on steam and put something on the Y button to hold it down. Ai i use are Zeta, Eugen and Yoda
Do you know that you have realy good point .. How can i replace my dmg cap v +. why would i want lose all my hard farmed,perfect sigils like dmg cap plius potion harder,tyrany,stamina,autorevive ect. im perfectly dmg caped.. new ones will give me same dmg cap lol well base atk goes up... but for what cost? nope ... no go for me :)
Yeah I'm trying to understand this myself...maybe they will add more slots for sigils in the future to mix and match these better idk seems counter productive and just another grind?
Glad for vane all I cared about was crit 10 + autorev and drain. minimal lv 1. Got all the bang for my buck needed in terms of utility and it didn't turn out worthless for me.
1. I did this fight 3 times today without getting a single tear. There is just no way I gonna spent an entire week on the same gameplay loop. 2. We dont have enough data. Is stamina + tyranny really enough to give so much damage that the new cap is reached as well? On which moves? Because you dont have ANY space left for more. 3. Defensive skills are offensive skills in disguise. You cant do damage if you are dead. Potion Horder, Nimble Onslaught, cooldown reduction or improved dodge. All of these skills are amaizing and an indirect damage increase due to ease of use and fast combat comback. I am certain its not worth the grind.
big miss on there part, as the community is complaining about dmg cap they add new dmg cap sigils🤦🤦🤦🤦 i mean by now most of us have perfect rolls on dmg cap and 0 supp v+(again big miss on there part). i quit after doing Lucil 5x, im out till april and beyond!!!!
For my tank djeeta ai, the gamma is a no brainer, my lancelot main, eugen and siegfried i would run alpha. I dont think i can justify using a alpha/gamma on each character with losing key abilities for slice of life imo. That being said this tear drop rate is bullcrap. Killed it 7 times and ive only gotten the 1 from the first clear.
Exactly what i said about azurite... They locked a game mechanic to force to go grind with a trash rng drop rate... I did 15 luci in a roll and got 2 tears... I stopped playing man... I can't grind all day long and the time i have is not rewarded
I enjoy the fight. Grinding the materials not so much. Also, after seeing the math you may get 15% damage increase overall it's not worth it if you value defensive and utility options. The bonus effects of them are okay if the team comp is set up appropriately except gamma which is acts like a defensive cushion but like the issue of guts, most of the more difficult enemies double tap. Actually got the shield stripped, guts activated and still got knocked to autorevive after testing it which made me laugh. It's like a replacement for supplementary damage with a bonus effect.
I see this a lot. People wasting precious tears and mats when you can leave the Sigil at 14( if you plan on getting 30/30). Sigil Booster from the Terminus weapon will give all your Sigils +1 to their Traits.
@giddymac my thought process was if I wanted to try someone whos terminus weapon Isn't complete for instance zeta I still want the full effect of the sigils
Fighting againts lucilius is not that hard. But, the minigame that has circle is so dumb with NPC 😂. Moreover, the update makes me want to say "just like that?" Sandalphon: "Hi gran, I'm sandalphon. Help me kick lucilius as*s" Gran: "okayge" Then The reward is you have to be slave to grind the final boss more and more 😂. The drop rate is low and u can't splendor them. For what purpose? Of course bro. So to make the player stick to the game to wait for new character 😂 in April.
I like your videos. Please, in name of God, buy a good microphone. If I was in a better situation, I would give you one. But, unfortunately, my current state doesn't allow me to help myself. Ps.: Don't buy a $500 dollars one. Get something between 50 to 100 first. There are mics that go as far as $5000.00!
ppl complaining about not being able to use azurite splendors is lame... like play the game, and farm the new boss that literally just came out a few days ago... u can still use ur damn splendors on other sigils (: stop complaining about everything, the game needs to be grindier and harder, NOT easier and faster.
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i personally would’ve preferred if these new sigils came with a third substat in the special/support/defense category it wouldve been “worth” farming for upgrade materials but thats just me
How happy was I that I saved my azurite splendors to quick level these sigils, only to learn they can’t be used…smdh.
to be fair the upgrading of them isnt bad but i feel you
I’m so sad…
Yea it's stupid how yhe made 1 sigil you can't use it on.. just to prolong gameplay.
You only need to put both on Lv.14. 😋
@@cannaaaa same no cosmetics
So basically, Supp V+s are now mandatory if you want to run 4 of these and keep your quick cooldowns and cascades or any quality of life....nice. They heard the community saying damage cap is bad and did this. GG
They really are I’m almost debating dropping my sup5s for 4+ to just gain my utility back my current build only has room for 3 utility which are potion hoarder, improved dodge and third is a damn toss up between guys, auto, cascade or quick cooldown
the most i run is double Alpha/Gamma, i keep it at that. i dont want to sacrifice too much utility, which i inevitably do by using 4 of the new sigils. Yes i do less dmg than a min-maxed build, but what good is high dps if i am dead constantly? If i can have two more utilities that keep my alive, that is better than dropping on the floor, or being force to player overly cautious.
Also: right now one of the best setups that you can run on characters ( and Cagliostro is a very good example of that) is with 2x Alpha and maxed out Uplift, as a form of an SBA initiator, which is probably impossible to do when you drop even more utility that probably can push the SBA gain while keeping you alive.
Overall the sigils are nice to have but they are for all intense and purposes, NOT Mandatory, so don't listen to the Dummy parsers :D!
as someone that like to theorycraft and have a cheat save to test things out, those new sigils are hard to fit
Before the update, you had 24 (all trait slots) - 2 (awakening) - 2 (war elemental) - 4 (dmg cap) - 3 (supp dmg) - 1 (critical hit), so 12 avaialbe slots to theorycraft, now 4 of those are removed so we need to work with 8 slots... Besides that, there's the issue that not all characters can cap with tyranny, life in the line and stamina anymore, so we need to start to use the imbuiment traits (before we used critical hit, any of guts/revive and another random trait)... basically min/max right now without cheating is impossible
to make vaseraga hits his cap on the combo B full charged we need to remove 2 supp damage sigils from his ideal buils, but seeing him doing almost 8 million damage in like 10s is insane lol
the hardest part is the matchmaking..
I'm with you, earlier today I had a group with 2 Vanes and they alternated shields. It was a cakewalk. So now I'm playing my Vane. 🤣
Yes man, it sucks having to repeatedly do the same mission which is difficult as hell and you still have to waste time with stupid matchmaking errors like that
To be honest I’ve just been doing it with my ai
I haven’t been able to enter a open quick match since before the patch
Stop complaining I only managed 1open match over 3 hours I tried changing download region 4 times spent all that time looking online to find out if the patch broke matchmaking-on pc btw
Man, the thing i hate the most, is that tears aren't guaranteed, around 7 kills with no drop, with the amount we are going to need, you would think they would make it 100%. I'm not all too excited having to kill him a hundred + times.
yeh that's the biggest bummer if anything smh. should've at least been 50% or something
@@rejxdmouse It's Monster Hunter style of material farming. Joining the long legacy of Desire Sensor horror stories that stretches all the way back to the PS2 golden age.
My last fight I got two tears. I was shocked! But yeah I've beat the boss like 30 times and I went 8 rounds without getting a tear. I think the worst part is being matched with people who can't dodge xD
@@TickleMyPickleOkay I'm at 15 kills with no tear from my last drop, it's kinda insane.
Take it Slow to avoid Frustration. Especially as the drop Rates are quite low .
I now have 480+ fragments and 2 tears. I'm done. I loved the game up to this point but I simply cannot bring myself to run Lucilius one more time.
HOLY
I noticed that the problem with these new sigils is the loss of Great sub traits in your DMG Cap V+ sigils, for example My Charlotta has Cascade and Quickcooldown on those Dmg Cap sigils but if i give her these new sigils i Will lose them and i already have a different sub traits in My other sigils, so at the end My decisión was between purely raw power or the chance of using My skills faster, i haven't decide yet
As a Eugene main I don’t see a problem lmao
The new goal is to achieve Supplementary Damage V+ with these secondary effects, such as cascade or quickcooldown. Which is practically impossible... Good job Cygames!
@Aug5ome lol,i am also a eugen main we need military outfit with a general cap ,i entered a matchmake and it was all eugen, i got a disconnected and the ai used the eugens we killed p.buhmot very quickly
This mission was made so you cant afk. If the ai cant do the 12 labors you will permanently lose your max hp will be left with 1 if they dont do it correctly.
People (not me though) have beaten the labors in offline mode. One guy even did it SOLO SOLO.
@@vDorgengoa Yes people can but for afk sometimes the ai on its own cant cause they too busy dodging to stay alive
@gmrjayz Yeah.... I won with a group online but I can't seem to do it offline.
12 labours are a bi*tch to complete. It's only a matter of time with 1 HP. I don't want to resort to the Lancelot spam....
There's a video about afk farming lucilius already
This update is pretty disappointing so far 9/10 combat gear progression -5/10
Facts.
THIS
I've gone 5 games without a single one. I dont understand why they wouldn't allow the tears to be craftable or bought with dalia. At this point, I would sacrifice ambrosia/Damascus to craft them
got us out here playing like its a F2P smh
Wait does tear of apocalypse can be trade with golden medal?
I'm going insane farming det shiet now
Sadly no 💀 enjoy spending time with luci
@@YouHaveNoHonour😢
@@YouHaveNoHonouror just wait for modders to save us from this shit, which i think will happen soon
I already tested out my lvl 30 alpha trait, and all of my allies didnt get a 30% boost to the SBA gauge when i used my SBA. Is this a bug or something?
No it's 30% gain, so your getting a lot more from your Normal Attacks, not the 30% to the bar
After using your SBA all allies willl receive 10% sba but if you have Alpha at level 30 then all allies will get 15% sba. Thats all I have really noticed so far.
Oh i see so its not that op, thx for the answers
It doesn't mean allies get huge 30 boost😅 it means 10x1.3
30 trait for alpha and beta is almost useless...
I wish the drop rate was better for the tear. Glad the fight is actually enjoyable over Proto Bahumat, since you can attack for most of the fight, just wish the grind wasn't as crazy but it's what we get with the game.
I don't think that Lucilius is enjoyable over Proto Baha, it has lots of cutscenes and long mechanic phases, so any lucilius raid is at least 20 min (if your team is experienced)
proto baha was like hunting a dummy but with an experienced team it could be done in less than 10 min...
Also, there are the rewards issue, we only need to farm lucilius like crazy because they stopped us from using azurite on the new sigils, so it's totally BS, it's a half baked content that was not designed to be farmable. I bet you that in future patches, when we have more content, lucilius sigils will be available to be upgraded with azurite, because it doesnt make sense to repeat this raid hundreds of time to just have a set of sigils at lv 15.
@@shimonami8960 my reasoning for Lucilius being more enjoyable is that you're contantly doing something and not waiting for him to land for burst phases. It just feels better than waiting for proto to do his crystals so you can enter a burst phase. I've gotten my Lucil clears down to 8-9ish mins, not with cutscenes. Pretty much the same time as an afk proto farm for me.
For proto, you can sit in the corner of the ship and it'll dodge 75% of his attacks and you don't have to do anything until he does his crystal shield phase. If you've got enough dps, you can completely ignore that.
But it's just how I prefer it if I'm going to actually play, instead of afk farming.
its enjoy only for the first time after that is so tedious all the cutscene bs
@@shimonami8960Honestly I don’t mind the cutscene, because you have to be fully focused in the time windows that you can do dmg in, so that you don’t get one taped and in the cutscenes you can breathe a bit before focusing again. And I also don’t mind the time it takes to clear, because before you cleared the harder bosses in 3-4min (no afk) so a 7+min run is kinda welcome. The only thing that is bad about this raid is the tear drop rate.
@@shiratsumi you are considering the in game timer, that freezes on some phases, if you are clearing it in 7 minutes you are actually spending near 15min for each run due to al the cutscenes and animations on the luclius fight, even a 4min run on lucilius is nearly 10min in real time
Wait why does the tears required for making these sigils everywhere i look say it needs only 5 tears and the max level is 30 but in game i need 7 tears to make it and the max level for it is 45?
There is almost no way to put more than 2~3 a b g sigils unless you have 2~3 Sup DMG+ 😅
It differs from characters tho.
@@achinpajou it hurts on Io I tell you that much
It’s funny because I got one of those godly wrightstones you were talking about mine was stun 10 dmg cap 7 dmg cap 5 which meant I could lose a dmg cap and have an extra sigil… thing to me is atm there’s nothing challenging enough to make me want to remove it off my main Zeta, and whilst yes I could do some more damage I prefer also have plenty of utility. I really think the sigils should have had 3 perks to keep the roles interesting, also I think they changed those tears drop rates because the first few days I was doing ok once it got easier to beat lucilius now it’s 4-5 runs at least before I get one if I’m lucky maybe more. I think we needed at least a couple more challenging quests added, and tears for upgrades and splendours not being usable is just like wtf 😂
We need better access to supV+ to improve builds diversity a bit cause it's non existent at this point. They could also add a war elemental+
I'd like a Stout Heart +.
Howd you get it? Nver seen one
I finished the fight once. It's good for fun, but NOT for farm. Really. For this battle, I think automatic gain for 1st battle is fair. Not just 1 tear and more... 40 battles for more 4 tears? Stupid.
The videos are too long to explain simple concepts...i like you but work on your video length
Just want to know the Damage cap in the Gamma skill is it in the Lvl 65 Damage cap or is an additional damage cap ?
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Hey man sorry to bother ya but who do you think are the best ai partners to fight against luci? I would really appreciate your opinion on it :)
been running eugen rosetta cagliostro. you can replace cagliostro with any character that helps against debuffs if you're struggling with that.
@@Rocxidi im gonna need to farm for eugen's terminus but they sound pretty good thnks for the suggestions pal!
@@Twinkie.P.Brownie eugen is by far the best ai character to have so for sure farm away
I use ferry, Narmaya, zeta. And I main either vane or lancelot.
Can you share your AI build for this? Mine take too long on the wings ads and I can only finish 3 wings on my own
I took a drink every time @canna adjusted his glasses. Im buzzed now for sure! Ty for the video was looking for a breakdown on these sigils and bis
A DRINKING GAME??? 💀💀💀
People are underestimating Gamma. Gamma's shield also works like a pseudo Stout Heart and is extremely good for missions outside of Lucilius. When you dont get knocked down and can confidently face tank hits, you can maintain your DPS and get more consistent results.
Unless you plan to stack both, i assume Gamma doesnt come with the actual Stout heart effect of reducing damage taken by 25%(Further increased by certain character masteries or certain sigil effects). Meaning until you get that first SBA off, your left nekkid if you are only wearing Gamma, where most units without a damage cut and ability to ignore interruptions in combat will get constantly yeeted to death, especially without any alternative means outside of sigil effects and buff effects to reduce damage.
Plus until they rebalance things to make supplementary damage & Damage cap not need to eat up so much slots for thar respective amounts, this makes it too difficult to build flexibility.
Which ironically its the damage Sigils themselves that get to ignore needing many slots since Stamina & Critical chance to 100% covers the majority of the needs, where one might only need a buff effect or another damage sigil effect to achieve hit the max dmg cap or so.
Maybe if damage from criticals (including crit dmg boosters) did not adhere to the damage cap, working akin to supplementary damage instead, then that would put the need for direct dmg sigils back on the spot, while making supplementary damage sigils end up being worst off due to eating too many slots, but having to compete against critical chance instead.
Never the less, at that point your stuck having to also stack up things like Link together to boost your link gauge gain just to make use of Alpha/Beta/Gamma`s effects faster, since you cant expect everyone else to run Alpha in multi player to grand an additional 3% SBA to enable faster loops.
Once the first one goes off, they can be useful, but before then your just putting yourself in a risk of dead weight, when most likely already got things like improved dodge, potion hoarder, invincibility bonus thru perfect dodges and turn all dodges into perfect dodges as enough defensive means.
Hell, it should be obvious that GBF: Relink put a sizable finger flip against in-battle buffs & Healing moves due to potion hoarder and the damage cap. So that needs to be reworked also in a number of ways, possibly making damage buffs & defense down applications result in a portion of damage ignoring the damage cap instead of being treated as the same as a standard atk/dmg increase as the stamina sigils end up being picked up for min-max damage cappery.
My boy, outside of lucilius everything dies under 1 min…
there is no point tho the quest is just too easy especially old content now
@@Aatred_ exactly, they over tuned things with too much damage so the end game could be a spammable farm.
Which in turn sabotaged things for any actual end game without a rebalance of things first.
@@arttizkappa2588 yup, too much damage and nothing worth out of it.
If it did something mold breaking like a sigil with three effects or a super unique effect where equipping 2 or even all 3 of them together gave ABSURD EFFECTS, that might of gave it value.
But the fact they only did damage cap with selective damage cap with an effect that requires 2 SAME, copies ruin it.
Hell here’s an easy way to fix it, each alpha, beta and gamma effect are locked to level 15 but in order to get the current level 30 effect you need two DIFFERENT ONES, equipped.
That would have boost its value by getting five effects for the price of 4 slots instead of needing to use 4 affix slots to get the effects of 3.
Since 3 instances of damage cap in 3 unique means and two SBA trigger effects instead of 2 unique dmg cap and one SBA trigger effect could have made it desire’able.
It could have been better if they made the 3 new sigils work together like gear sets instead of buying duplicates of each one. In order to use the max level benefit of each one you have to sacrifice 1 sigil slot in order to get that benefit.
If they had made it at max level, the 2 set effect, the max level benefit will work. Then if you have all 3 max level sigils equipped, a new trait would be active or enabled.
I made some calculations to figure out how much this new sigils will improve the dmg, and, for my surprise, in a full perfect rotation, its improve just a ~5.5%, and this considering just the dmg, what I thinking is not good pay for it, because you may lost good sub support sigils, like quick cooldown, cascade, improve dodge, potion holder, etc.
The point is the you have really really good sub sigils on supp dmg sigil, is good to you use the new gamma, beta and alpha sigil, and just that.
Exactly, if you only needed to equip one of them to get the level 30 effect instead, then they might be much better. But because of all the measures to `ignore` the damage cap, namely supplementary damage mostly, its impossible for side-grades to function unless they give an option that works.
The idea of having two damage cap values on a single sigil can be impressive but conditionals end up make or breaking the worth-while value of them if theres no unit who actually has absurdly good use for it.
Plus a 5.5%~ increase in damage ONLY if you do a full `perfect rotation` in damage, is not worth the trouble since the highest difficulty fights dont give much room to constantly pull off full unga bungas if you need to focus more on either guarding/dodging the attacks and be better off increasing your invulnerability frames then a risk of damage.
This is why a certain `berserker` sigil and another sigil that `gives` extra damage cap, but causes every time you get hit to get dizzy is effectively worthless besides making mostly redundant farming grinds even faster, but ironically gets shot down in quick quest, one of the few places it could have value in, due to the hp/damage scale-back ruining so many builds, you likely need an entirely different build instead for them.
Does anyone know which is better for Narmaya double Alpha or Gamma?
Honestly, I like games a where it is required to grind to get stronger and stronger but I did not appreciate not being able to upgrade new seals with azurites, especially with the drop rate of tears being so low.
Yup, slime pede spamming a hundred times is more favorable cause of easy brain dead strats and can almost auto farm it to an extent.
If you could scrap old high level sigils to get some resources back then it could create a incentive to farm certain sigils to melt into the azurite instead, but even if you could spam it at 30 seconds a clear, it would get boring and burn out any enjoyment as a result.
Ultimately, it’s better when you can have fun and get gains at the same time.
I don’t have a min maxed Sig, but all my gear/sigils are maxed.. i’m not beating Luci at all, with AI or players, skill issues i get it, but I think I’ll just pass on Luci and the Sigils, and just hella grind out Mats/sigils for Tweyen when she comes out. Then maybe I’ll give him another go, once I hopefully can min max her by then.
I have a question. Maybe someone knows.
What if you replaced supp dmg overall?
Get the maxed alpha beta gamma whatever then replace the 2-3 supp sigils with other v+. Would it be comparable to adding the minor supplemental dmg?
No, a SupV is 8% average damage increase, a/b/g are only about 5% on average
It was easier solo than with online parties tbh
Weirdly I think they would be better if you could reroll the damage cap on them, heck just let you CHOOSE the subtrait
There are quite a few QoL changes this game needs. As I don't AFK farm; drop rates feel abysmal.
I can afk farm this pretty easily using lance with fight over flight. Turbo the Y button on steam and put something on the Y button to hold it down. Ai i use are Zeta, Eugen and Yoda
Do you know that you have realy good point .. How can i replace my dmg cap v +. why would i want lose all my hard farmed,perfect sigils like dmg cap plius potion harder,tyrany,stamina,autorevive ect. im perfectly dmg caped.. new ones will give me same dmg cap lol well base atk goes up... but for what cost? nope ... no go for me :)
Yeah I'm trying to understand this myself...maybe they will add more slots for sigils in the future to mix and match these better idk seems counter productive and just another grind?
Glad for vane all I cared about was crit 10 + autorev and drain. minimal lv 1. Got all the bang for my buck needed in terms of utility and it didn't turn out worthless for me.
For now im getting alpha and beta and maxing them
1. I did this fight 3 times today without getting a single tear. There is just no way I gonna spent an entire week on the same gameplay loop.
2. We dont have enough data. Is stamina + tyranny really enough to give so much damage that the new cap is reached as well? On which moves? Because you dont have ANY space left for more.
3. Defensive skills are offensive skills in disguise. You cant do damage if you are dead. Potion Horder, Nimble Onslaught, cooldown reduction or improved dodge. All of these skills are amaizing and an indirect damage increase due to ease of use and fast combat comback.
I am certain its not worth the grind.
big miss on there part, as the community is complaining about dmg cap they add new dmg cap sigils🤦🤦🤦🤦 i mean by now most of us have perfect rolls on dmg cap and 0 supp v+(again big miss on there part). i quit after doing Lucil 5x, im out till april and beyond!!!!
im more hype on new characters than this sigils
the damage cut makes this kinda imposible to afk , but doable
For my tank djeeta ai, the gamma is a no brainer, my lancelot main, eugen and siegfried i would run alpha. I dont think i can justify using a alpha/gamma on each character with losing key abilities for slice of life imo.
That being said this tear drop rate is bullcrap. Killed it 7 times and ive only gotten the 1 from the first clear.
Exactly what i said about azurite... They locked a game mechanic to force to go grind with a trash rng drop rate... I did 15 luci in a roll and got 2 tears... I stopped playing man... I can't grind all day long and the time i have is not rewarded
I enjoy the fight. Grinding the materials not so much. Also, after seeing the math you may get 15% damage increase overall it's not worth it if you value defensive and utility options. The bonus effects of them are okay if the team comp is set up appropriately except gamma which is acts like a defensive cushion but like the issue of guts, most of the more difficult enemies double tap. Actually got the shield stripped, guts activated and still got knocked to autorevive after testing it which made me laugh. It's like a replacement for supplementary damage with a bonus effect.
def not gonna gloss over the fact that you have 500 centrums like wtf
If you dont have supp dmg V+ with suport stats this new sigis fall down in power in build
Not being a guaranteed drop it’s a crime and so dumb , it’s completely unnecessary :(
would be nice to skip bosses animations
I maxed 2 betas to 15 and starting on a alpha guess i gotta start on gamma
I see this a lot. People wasting precious tears and mats when you can leave the Sigil at 14( if you plan on getting 30/30). Sigil Booster from the Terminus weapon will give all your Sigils +1 to their Traits.
@giddymac my thought process was if I wanted to try someone whos terminus weapon Isn't complete for instance zeta I still want the full effect of the sigils
Stupid they don't make the new boss have a chance to drop supp dmg V+. You literally waste 3 spot for regular supp dmg V.
Yep, it be like that lmao
Lazy game devs that shortcut quality gaming with restrictive-grind. It isssss what it is.
Fighting againts lucilius is not that hard. But, the minigame that has circle is so dumb with NPC 😂.
Moreover, the update makes me want to say "just like that?"
Sandalphon: "Hi gran, I'm sandalphon. Help me kick lucilius as*s"
Gran: "okayge"
Then
The reward is you have to be slave to grind the final boss more and more 😂. The drop rate is low and u can't splendor them.
For what purpose? Of course bro. So to make the player stick to the game to wait for new character 😂 in April.
I like your videos. Please, in name of God, buy a good microphone. If I was in a better situation, I would give you one. But, unfortunately, my current state doesn't allow me to help myself.
Ps.: Don't buy a $500 dollars one. Get something between 50 to 100 first. There are mics that go as far as $5000.00!
I feel like his mics fine. Maybe he could fix up the audio with an EQ but the mic itself sounds fine imo.
Pop filter. Hes using cheap headphones
ppl complaining about not being able to use azurite splendors is lame... like play the game, and farm the new boss that literally just came out a few days ago... u can still use ur damn splendors on other sigils (: stop complaining about everything, the game needs to be grindier and harder, NOT easier and faster.