I see players ask how to get into 7k in random comment sections and they either get no response or get just a once sentence response so I'd like to share my thoughts where it's relevant and especially that this video just came out don't start 7k with high scroll speed because it will be harder to get used to, even if you're good at 4k and you use high scroll speed in 4k. take it slow. don't rush to 2-3* maps, play 0* and low 1* maps to get used to the mode. converts from standard will do as well. you can also try different skins. most players use bar skins but there are also players who perform better with circle skins or even arrow skins! I remember some good player recommending a circle skin and after trying one I never looked back. also the improvement speed of others shouldn't matter to you. improve at your own speed and try to have fun playing and enjoy the music! expecting too much and comparing yourself to others all the time can be very demotivating if the mindset is not right some things don't really matter at the start but matter more and more once you get better and eventually become absolutely essential: 1) make sure to warm up with easy maps (97-99+%) and after that you can push your limits with harder maps if you want. playing the whole session for accuracy works as well. just don't focus on one specific thing too much 2) don't play too many maps you can't even get 90% on. it's mostly just mashing. there are exceptions which you will figure out on your own over time 3) I don't recommend neglecting any broad skills like ln. once you get better you can start playing fln/inverse and it will help with ln in general 4) use funorange's rate changer on maps you like: if you have 98% you can add 0.1x but 0.05x for (chord)jacks because they scale heavily. if some map is too hard then don't hesitate slowing it down or just use HT. better than mashing 5) there are a lot of useful 7k packs with lots of maps but most of them are for more advanced players. by the time you get to that level I'm sure you will figure out what those are and where to get them (or you still can ask me if you aren't sure!) 6) generic stuff like: sleep well, eat well, take care of your health and especially mental health. these things DO matter
as a vet 7k player of around 6 years, this is all great advice if any new players are reading! i would also personally recommend dabbling in other 7k VSRG games as you get more comfortable with just being able to hit notes. nowadays there are convert packs in osu for everything, but engine makes a big difference and osu engine can end up causing bad habits some times due to its leniency. that said, there are players who reached the top only using osu, so don’t feel like you’re severely missing out if you don’t
bro this guide goes hard, I swear it already helped me to improve a lot by just changing my skin to a wider one and playing the BMS converted maps. Keep it up bro, blessings!
2:13 Maybe your wording was off, or maybe you were referring to low level play, but 7k is definitely physically demanding. On top of reading and physicality, you need high levels of finger control. Jakads and jhlee0133 aren't pausing in Ascension DT just for show. Top players like Kalkai aren't pausing in their ranked scores for show. Playing on a standard keyboard layout, you will definitely get physically bottlenecked playing for example, chordstream, because of bracketing. Most people can't even alternate above 130bpm stably with their middle and ring fingers in isolation, and this problem gets magnified with how interdependent other fingers are to your ring fingers. You may not have reached any physical bottlenecks yet since from what I've seen, you play on a controller (less emphasis on middle ring alternation) and are barely getting into stella charts, but there is a reason Overjoy players are humorously called gorillas lol. The rest of your advice is great though, generally a gem of a video for beginners.
playing 7k definitely helps with less keys like 4k and I'm stating that from experience. it's just that you have to play 7k a lot to catch up to the point where it would passively boost 4k skill. but of course it won't get you far in 4k. you have to play 4k if you want to be quite good at it. 7k even helps with 8k (not 7+1k) because at one point I tried 8k and I was doing well on 2.5* maps on the second or third day. it would be impossible for me to get that good if I just started playing from scratch
in my opinion there's nothing wrong with 'tall' skins and I'd say it's just preference (yeah you said it later). bms players definitely like lane covers though. the stuff you show in the video definitely looks like the skin should be not as 'tall' but it's because the maps are not 0-1*. like I said in my other comment starting with low scroll speed is highly recommended but over time as you get better you can increase the scroll speed and it will compensate for maps becoming denser and denser and they won't look as cluttered
agreed, the lane cover on the example skin toward the beginning was quite extreme i dont think ive ever seen anyone play with such a vertically small playfield besides endterminal i do think its good to experiment with your skin though rather than only relying on scroll speed changes and a full play area, some people prefer hidden, some people prefer fadein/lane cover, but then again either of those could also just not be your thing. i started with 7k and used a pretty big circle skin with a very high scroll speed but relearning the mode in a different scroll direction and on bms ive been using a lane cover with lower scroll speed now also for anyone reading this reply considering trying fadein/hidden, edit your skin to add that because the mods adjusting the cover size based on combo is really annoying
Yeah I started off on 28 scroll speed, this was the period where I learned how to tap in 7k. After I started S ranking like 2.8*+ and delved into 3*s, I increased my scroll speed to like 32 and it’s been like that ever since. 7k super man, after quitting mania for like a year because of school and demotivation on 4k, 7k is just so much more fun
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It’s been a while since i ever saw any 7k guide.. thank you for uploading this and i think i should consider making updated version of mine :)
I see players ask how to get into 7k in random comment sections and they either get no response or get just a once sentence response so I'd like to share my thoughts where it's relevant and especially that this video just came out
don't start 7k with high scroll speed because it will be harder to get used to, even if you're good at 4k and you use high scroll speed in 4k. take it slow. don't rush to 2-3* maps, play 0* and low 1* maps to get used to the mode. converts from standard will do as well. you can also try different skins. most players use bar skins but there are also players who perform better with circle skins or even arrow skins! I remember some good player recommending a circle skin and after trying one I never looked back. also the improvement speed of others shouldn't matter to you. improve at your own speed and try to have fun playing and enjoy the music! expecting too much and comparing yourself to others all the time can be very demotivating if the mindset is not right
some things don't really matter at the start but matter more and more once you get better and eventually become absolutely essential:
1) make sure to warm up with easy maps (97-99+%) and after that you can push your limits with harder maps if you want. playing the whole session for accuracy works as well. just don't focus on one specific thing too much
2) don't play too many maps you can't even get 90% on. it's mostly just mashing. there are exceptions which you will figure out on your own over time
3) I don't recommend neglecting any broad skills like ln. once you get better you can start playing fln/inverse and it will help with ln in general
4) use funorange's rate changer on maps you like: if you have 98% you can add 0.1x but 0.05x for (chord)jacks because they scale heavily. if some map is too hard then don't hesitate slowing it down or just use HT. better than mashing
5) there are a lot of useful 7k packs with lots of maps but most of them are for more advanced players. by the time you get to that level I'm sure you will figure out what those are and where to get them (or you still can ask me if you aren't sure!)
6) generic stuff like: sleep well, eat well, take care of your health and especially mental health. these things DO matter
as a vet 7k player of around 6 years, this is all great advice if any new players are reading! i would also personally recommend dabbling in other 7k VSRG games as you get more comfortable with just being able to hit notes. nowadays there are convert packs in osu for everything, but engine makes a big difference and osu engine can end up causing bad habits some times due to its leniency. that said, there are players who reached the top only using osu, so don’t feel like you’re severely missing out if you don’t
bro this guide goes hard, I swear it already helped me to improve a lot by just changing my skin to a wider one and playing the BMS converted maps. Keep it up bro, blessings!
This is unironically what I've been looking for months ago when I wanted to get into 7k, thank you 🐱
its soso crazy how when i decided to start playong 7k a beautiful guide video appears on my fyp, thanks man keep up the good work.
Woah, didnt expect this video to be that helpful, thanks
really nice video! : )
Good video dude
thanks bms
the best skin is the skin you like the most
2:13 Maybe your wording was off, or maybe you were referring to low level play, but 7k is definitely physically demanding. On top of reading and physicality, you need high levels of finger control. Jakads and jhlee0133 aren't pausing in Ascension DT just for show. Top players like Kalkai aren't pausing in their ranked scores for show.
Playing on a standard keyboard layout, you will definitely get physically bottlenecked playing for example, chordstream, because of bracketing. Most people can't even alternate above 130bpm stably with their middle and ring fingers in isolation, and this problem gets magnified with how interdependent other fingers are to your ring fingers.
You may not have reached any physical bottlenecks yet since from what I've seen, you play on a controller (less emphasis on middle ring alternation) and are barely getting into stella charts, but there is a reason Overjoy players are humorously called gorillas lol.
The rest of your advice is great though, generally a gem of a video for beginners.
playing 7k definitely helps with less keys like 4k and I'm stating that from experience. it's just that you have to play 7k a lot to catch up to the point where it would passively boost 4k skill. but of course it won't get you far in 4k. you have to play 4k if you want to be quite good at it. 7k even helps with 8k (not 7+1k) because at one point I tried 8k and I was doing well on 2.5* maps on the second or third day. it would be impossible for me to get that good if I just started playing from scratch
in my opinion there's nothing wrong with 'tall' skins and I'd say it's just preference (yeah you said it later). bms players definitely like lane covers though. the stuff you show in the video definitely looks like the skin should be not as 'tall' but it's because the maps are not 0-1*. like I said in my other comment starting with low scroll speed is highly recommended but over time as you get better you can increase the scroll speed and it will compensate for maps becoming denser and denser and they won't look as cluttered
agreed, the lane cover on the example skin toward the beginning was quite extreme i dont think ive ever seen anyone play with such a vertically small playfield besides endterminal
i do think its good to experiment with your skin though rather than only relying on scroll speed changes and a full play area, some people prefer hidden, some people prefer fadein/lane cover, but then again either of those could also just not be your thing. i started with 7k and used a pretty big circle skin with a very high scroll speed but relearning the mode in a different scroll direction and on bms ive been using a lane cover with lower scroll speed now
also for anyone reading this reply considering trying fadein/hidden, edit your skin to add that because the mods adjusting the cover size based on combo is really annoying
Yeah I started off on 28 scroll speed, this was the period where I learned how to tap in 7k. After I started S ranking like 2.8*+ and delved into 3*s, I increased my scroll speed to like 32 and it’s been like that ever since. 7k super man, after quitting mania for like a year because of school and demotivation on 4k, 7k is just so much more fun
lets go powered
Would id be easier if I already can play semi hard 6k maps to transition into 7k?
based iidx con :D
I play mobile rhythm games and get mind blocked playing the same charts over and over, I think I’ll go back to bms / osu
thanks
i started getting better at 7k this month, and i'm startin to S 7* maps, i'm happy.
also, what's your osu profile ?
You should make a vid about binds
For the reading tip, do you follow the notes with your eyes or is it fixed in one spot?
follow the notes
as a fellow 7k player,
what's your opinion on brackets 😈
(played on a keyboard)
easy on controller but i get why they're hard on keyboard
Thanks bro, I will try it 🫂.
in short: play bms
Yes but don’t 100% skip LNs lol
🫂