Another incredible video. That road you took thru the reservation was something else. I am so glad you made it thru safely! What I also find incredible are your drone shots of cities between the hills and mountains, or what look like depressions in an open field. Simply amazing.
"I haven't made all good decisions today" You're a traveling man and that's part of the fun of being on the road, seeing what you can see, exploring some new things. They aren't always good but you're still living the dream. This was probably the best video yet. Thanks for your work.
Thanks! I wasn’t able to record the roughest parts of the Route because I had to keep both hands on the wheel! Was hoping it didn’t come off like I was overly dramatic haha.
Yeah this was some pretty treacherous driving. The video didn’t do it justice. And it was also incredibly beautiful and thought provoking at the same time!
I did this trip over 3 years; Independence Mo. to Ogallala NE, Ogallala to Pocatello ID, and Pocatello to Oregon City OR. I was on a lot of back roads but I have to hand it to you for your route from Alexander ID to Fort Hall. I traveled from Fort Hall east to where you hooked up and I appreciate what you did. In the words of Rudyard Kipling, "you're a better man than I am Gunga Din! I did go to the original location of Fort Hall on the Reservation and went down a "road" with vegetation 3-4 feet tall on either side. Later that night I realized I shouldn't have done that. Thanks for the memories.
That’s awesome! I also enjoy watching videos after I’ve been somewhere so I know what you’re saying. That road to Fort Hall was a heckuva drive 😂😂 Thanks for the comment!
In 95 I rode through here following the Oregon trail on a 87 BMW K75C touring motorcycle . Rode back following the Lewis and Clark trail. Good to see some familiar landmarks.
Idahoan here. The Goodale cut-off of the Oregon Trail went right through the small ranch near Picabo where I grew up. So much of the state lacks cell service, so ya'll be careful if you come this way and go off the main roads.
Really enjoyed your trip and reliving what those brave pioneers encountered! Look forward your next video! I traced the trail a few years ago in Oregon including the great Interpretive Center outside Baker City. Saw some great ruts out on the backside of the center!
Nice travels when you got out on the gravel road by tracks or along the Res thought you might see some ruts from the wagon trains .By the Oregon trail interpretive center by Baker City Oregon you can walk a pathway and see the original covered wagon ruts thank you for the adventure and explore ❤️🇺🇸🤔
In soda spring the trail runs through the golf course (4ft depression/ wagon ruts), shows the magnitude of wagons that traveled through. Also, Hooper springs (naturally carbonated water bubbles up that you can drink) and steamboat springs (chugs like a steam boat)
Awesome.... Thanks for the video. This area has a ton of history, but is often overlooked because so little of the history has been commercialized like the Civil War battlefields back east for example. Montpelier has a bank museum, the bank that was robbed by Butch Cassidy. Great job, I am happy to see the place I call home recognized for the importance it holds in US history.
This part of Oregon Trail with Idaho is always beautiful. The mnts always in background and just seem to surround you too. Continue making your non best decisions .😊 They weren't. That part of travel provided a real experience of oregon trail . You were a little shook up. A hot shower & good nite sleep gave a fresh start for your next day. 😊
I work a FedEx route here and have delivered in all of the places in this video. My route for the last 5 years includes Fort Hall, Pocatello, and American Falls.
Have relatives that made the trip with the Mormon pioneers. On the Oregan trail, there is a little town called Chesterfield where the church leaders assigned several families, Barlows were one , to give relief and resupply for those on the trail. The families have reconstructed the store and some of the homes.
Thank you! I had a couple of nervous moments for sure - and there are still a few more in the upcoming videos haha. But I can assure everyone I made it through ok :) Thanks!
We live in Idaho now and this video is giving me lots of ideas for next summer. BTW, we've off-roaded for over 30 years and that road thru the reservation is 2 wd for us.
Very beautiful! I imagine a horse ride through there would be spectacular! You should try to go out that far west - one of my favorites places to visit!
One of these days I’ll get out there. The west is definitely on my bucket list. I just can’t get over the scenery. Just beautiful. I’m so glad I started watching your videos.
Your video kept popping up in my feeds. Thought maybe I should take a look. Very interesting since I try to find cool off road areas to travel. I am trying to make a route from the west side to east side of Idaho that is 95% dirt. Gave me some good ideas. I have the route nearly completed to American Falls. After that I am a bit stumped. This helps. Thanks for the video! George.
I grew up in American Falls. I moved back here when was 42. I hope you stopped at Massacre Rocks, that is one of the more historical locations on the Oregon Trail. At least in this end of the state. Also, the actual site of Fort Hall is about ten miles west of the town of Fort Hall. It is under water, at the east end of the American Falls Reservoir, about eight months of the year. That's why the replica is in Pocatello. Oh, and you stayed in the fanciest motel in town.
I love that once again you were on the actual Oregon Trail. For some strange reason I thought I'd see a far more mountainous region around Pocatello. I know it gets that way soon;) Also I kept thinking about what if another vehicle was going in the opposite direction when you were on the Trail.
Pocatello is surrounded by mountains. He just didn't film them. West of Pocatello the Oregon Trail follows the Snake River plain, which is mostly high desert. He's not going to get back into the mountains again until he crosses into Oregon.
@@dharwood2727 Thank you for that information. My question to you is : So does this mean it's high desert in the Boise area? (Boise Basin). What would the livestock grazing be like along the Snake River Plain? Sorry to pick your brain :) but I'm working on a story line to get a wagon train to the Idaho City gold rush from Independence, MO I've been doing a ton of research yet having info from some one who knows the area is best. It gets difficult to find accurate info on just how they kept their livestock alive in some long stretches along the OT. No cow, horse, mule or ox kept a journal. TY if you reply.
Thanks for putting in the lodging price, and a quick pan of the room. I'm planning a number of rides next year (yay Social Security!), and seeing what you paid gives me some idea as to costs.
You’re welcome! Definitely hit and miss with prices. I picked some cheap ones and then some unique ones that were more expensive. Have some great rides!
Yeah, you’ll definitely get noticed if you’re wandering around the eastern part of the rez. I’m surprised you didn’t go to the hot springs in Lava, the natives have been soaking there for thousands of years.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing this historical video. We've been to many of these locations, with the exception of that remote stretch of dirt road (barely) north and west of Chesterfield. That's certainly a pristine, unspoiled area, and very beautiful. Hard to tell if this route, or the Hudspeth Cutoff (Highway 30) via Lava Hot Springs, was more preferable. What is your opinion?
I live in fort Hall and am a tribal member. I'm surprised that you didn't go visit the site of the actual fort. They have a monument there where the fort stood on the reservation. We also have a herd of Buffalo that you wouldve had to pass on the way to the monument.
Working our way through the Oregon Trail 15 day road trip. We camped at Arrow Rock State Historic Site in Missouri a few years ago and met a fellow that was riding a bike all the way along the trail and wondering from some of the remote places you've been in the episode if he rode any of those isolated places you drove through. He did eventually make it to his destination on the bike. Can you tell me what kind of maps you are using, the detail is pretty amazing. Thanks for doing this.
another good video. peg leg Smith was an interesting character. he must have been all over the west as there is a liars contest inspired by him out in the desert east of LA. Does it still feel like summer up there?
from the internet :) "Dingle was named by the Mormon prophet Brigham Young. Some say it came from the sounds of trains passing by and others say it was from cowbells he'd hear in the fields."
@@TravelwithaWiseguy Thanks! That's a big help because I've been frustrated looking for a map that shows the trail routes for my own Oregon Trail expeditions.
I don't understand all of the splits of the Oregon Trail. I guess I always thought all of the travelers along the road took pretty much the same path. But I guess there were multiple paths they could take like a choose your own adventure game?
I imagine the ruts could get pretty bad so maybe going different ways to avoid that? 🤷🏼♂️ And if it were guys leading the way we always knew a better way to go 😂😂
@@TravelwithaWiseguy That's what happened to the Donner Party I bet. The guys just HAD to take a "short cut" and now look at the mess they're in. What? too soon? 😄
This is the side of America I truly love
The barren wasteland part of the country… odd choice but to each their own I guess 🤷🏼♂️
@@reesbritton6623 Not barren. Wide open.
Another incredible video. That road you took thru the reservation was something else. I am so glad you made it thru safely! What I also find incredible are your drone shots of cities between the hills and mountains, or what look like depressions in an open field. Simply amazing.
This was one of the most memorable parts of the trip. I really wasn’t sure I’d get through some of those roads, but the rewards were worth it!
"I haven't made all good decisions today" You're a traveling man and that's part of the fun of being on the road, seeing what you can see, exploring some new things. They aren't always good but you're still living the dream. This was probably the best video yet. Thanks for your work.
Thanks! I wasn’t able to record the roughest parts of the Route because I had to keep both hands on the wheel! Was hoping it didn’t come off like I was overly dramatic haha.
No problem keep going
WOW!! I love it when you basically go off road, great to see the actual Oregon Trail - beautiful scenery!!
Yeah this was some pretty treacherous driving. The video didn’t do it justice. And it was also incredibly beautiful and thought provoking at the same time!
So interesting . Really enjoyable. Thankyou so much for such a well documented and exciting journey .
Thank you! It was a lot of fun!
I did this trip over 3 years; Independence Mo. to Ogallala NE, Ogallala to Pocatello ID, and Pocatello to Oregon City OR. I was on a lot of back roads but I have to hand it to you for your route from Alexander ID to Fort Hall. I traveled from Fort Hall east to where you hooked up and I appreciate what you did. In the words of Rudyard Kipling, "you're a better man than I am Gunga Din!
I did go to the original location of Fort Hall on the Reservation and went down a "road" with vegetation 3-4 feet tall on either side. Later that night I realized I shouldn't have done that.
Thanks for the memories.
That’s awesome! I also enjoy watching videos after I’ve been somewhere so I know what you’re saying. That road to Fort Hall was a heckuva drive 😂😂 Thanks for the comment!
In 95 I rode through here following the Oregon trail on a 87 BMW K75C touring motorcycle . Rode back following the Lewis and Clark trail. Good to see some familiar landmarks.
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I know right! Need me a sponsorship! Haha
Idahoan here. The Goodale cut-off of the Oregon Trail went right through the small ranch near Picabo where I grew up. So much of the state lacks cell service, so ya'll be careful if you come this way and go off the main roads.
Good to know - thank you!
Awesome video. I lived in Idaho in 1983-84.. it's just as I remember.
Thanks! I loved it!
another grrrrreat video. well researched, well presented and very interesting. thank you for all the work and then sharing.
Great video as I love history and imagining what it would have been like for the settlers.
Thank you! I thought the same thing many times throughout this trip!
Really enjoyed your trip and reliving what those brave pioneers encountered! Look forward your next video! I traced the trail a few years ago in Oregon including the great Interpretive Center outside Baker City. Saw some great ruts out on the backside of the center!
Thank you! I visited those ruts and put them on the Oregon part of this series. Great area to explore!
Nice travels when you got out on the gravel road by tracks or along the Res thought you might see some ruts from the wagon trains .By the Oregon trail interpretive center by Baker City Oregon you can walk a pathway and see the original covered wagon ruts thank you for the adventure and explore ❤️🇺🇸🤔
Thank you! And yes I believe I filmed those ruts in the next episode. Really beautiful and interesting area!
In soda spring the trail runs through the golf course (4ft depression/ wagon ruts), shows the magnitude of wagons that traveled through. Also, Hooper springs (naturally carbonated water bubbles up that you can drink) and steamboat springs (chugs like a steam boat)
Awesome.... Thanks for the video. This area has a ton of history, but is often overlooked because so little of the history has been commercialized like the Civil War battlefields back east for example. Montpelier has a bank museum, the bank that was robbed by Butch Cassidy. Great job, I am happy to see the place I call home recognized for the importance it holds in US history.
I loved visiting the area! Lots of cool history and very beautiful! Thank you!
This part of Oregon Trail with Idaho is always beautiful. The mnts always in background and just seem to surround you too. Continue making your non best decisions .😊 They weren't. That part of travel provided a real experience of oregon trail . You were a little shook up. A hot shower & good nite sleep gave a fresh start for your next day. 😊
Haha thanks! I’ll try to continue to make my non best decisions 😂😂
Love this one, especially going through the reservation.🤠👍
Yeah that was one of the highlights of my trip!
I work a FedEx route here and have delivered in all of the places in this video. My route for the last 5 years includes Fort Hall, Pocatello, and American Falls.
this stretch was awesome!!!! :) :)
I agree!! Very cool!
I love your videos man, make me wanna visit these places, much love from the UK
Have relatives that made the trip with the Mormon pioneers. On the Oregan trail, there is a little town called Chesterfield where the church leaders assigned several families, Barlows were one , to give relief and resupply for those on the trail. The families have reconstructed the store and some of the homes.
I actually did a video about Chesterfield during this trip as well! Very interesting place to visit!
Wow, you were really out there with this one, John! Glad to see you made it through safe & sound, though.
Thank you! I had a couple of nervous moments for sure - and there are still a few more in the upcoming videos haha. But I can assure everyone I made it through ok :) Thanks!
Sweet, Goodales cutoff from fort Hall looks cool
It is!
We live in Idaho now and this video is giving me lots of ideas for next summer. BTW, we've off-roaded for over 30 years and that road thru the reservation is 2 wd for us.
Thank you! Hope you have a lot of fun exploring!
Beautiful scenery. I’d probably recommend riding a horse on that grass and rocky road. Never been west so this is great. Thank you for sharing.
Very beautiful! I imagine a horse ride through there would be spectacular! You should try to go out that far west - one of my favorites places to visit!
One of these days I’ll get out there. The west is definitely on my bucket list. I just can’t get over the scenery. Just beautiful. I’m so glad I started watching your videos.
Loved this ty
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The crow, LOL. Enchanting scenery. Appreciate!
Haha I only got the end of the crow part. It was probably 30 seconds of him walking in front of me before I thought to record it 😂😂
Love it, looks like a hell of a time! Hope your trip was awesome!
It was! It’s definitely been fun going back and editing the video. Lots of great stuff still to come!
Your video kept popping up in my feeds. Thought maybe I should take a look. Very interesting since I try to find cool off road areas to travel. I am trying to make a route from the west side to east side of Idaho that is 95% dirt. Gave me some good ideas. I have the route nearly completed to American Falls. After that I am a bit stumped. This helps. Thanks for the video! George.
That’s great! The Delorme Atlas was really helpful for me. Thanks for watching!
I grew up in American Falls. I moved back here when was 42. I hope you stopped at Massacre Rocks, that is one of the more historical locations on the Oregon Trail. At least in this end of the state. Also, the actual site of Fort Hall is about ten miles west of the town of Fort Hall. It is under water, at the east end of the American Falls Reservoir, about eight months of the year. That's why the replica is in Pocatello. Oh, and you stayed in the fanciest motel in town.
I did stop at Massacre Rocks - it was in one of these videos!
I love that once again you were on the actual Oregon Trail. For some strange reason I thought I'd see a far more mountainous region around Pocatello. I know it gets that way soon;) Also I kept thinking about what if another vehicle was going in the opposite direction when you were on the Trail.
That would’ve been funny to run into a vehicle coming the other way, but I was more worried about animals than other cars 😂
Pocatello is surrounded by mountains. He just didn't film them. West of Pocatello the Oregon Trail follows the Snake River plain, which is mostly high desert. He's not going to get back into the mountains again until he crosses into Oregon.
@@dharwood2727 Thank you for that information. My question to you is :
So does this mean it's high desert in the Boise area? (Boise Basin). What would the livestock grazing be like along the Snake River Plain?
Sorry to pick your brain :) but I'm working on a story line to get a wagon train to the Idaho City gold rush from Independence, MO I've been doing a ton of research yet having info from some one who knows the area is best.
It gets difficult to find accurate info on just how they kept their livestock alive in some long stretches along the OT. No cow, horse, mule or ox kept a journal. TY if you reply.
The road less traveled is oftentimes the best.
Agreed 100%!
did u realize when u passed thru the ft. hall IR, u were driving a grand 'Cherokee' , how appropriate ! driving on the exact route is way too cool !
Haha I never thought of that 😊 It was definitely a rough road but glad I made it through!
Thanks for putting in the lodging price, and a quick pan of the room. I'm planning a number of rides next year (yay Social Security!), and seeing what you paid gives me some idea as to costs.
You’re welcome! Definitely hit and miss with prices. I picked some cheap ones and then some unique ones that were more expensive. Have some great rides!
You're a daring man taking that different route. I bet it was so worth it, though
Absolutely!
My dream it take the Oregon trail all the way to Oregon, then travel down to Westcoast to Santa Monica, then take old route 66 back to Chicago.
That would be an awesome trip!
we stopped at Soda Springs on our western roadtrip and had the water straight from the spring! (not the geyser) I hated it..
Usually spring water is pretty good!
Yeah, you’ll definitely get noticed if you’re wandering around the eastern part of the rez. I’m surprised you didn’t go to the hot springs in Lava, the natives have been soaking there for thousands of years.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing this historical video. We've been to many of these locations, with the exception of that remote stretch of dirt road (barely) north and west of Chesterfield. That's certainly a pristine, unspoiled area, and very beautiful. Hard to tell if this route, or the Hudspeth Cutoff (Highway 30) via Lava Hot Springs, was more preferable. What is your opinion?
Thanks! I preferred the more backroads route, but you’d have to have a reliable vehicle in some places.
I live in fort Hall and am a tribal member. I'm surprised that you didn't go visit the site of the actual fort. They have a monument there where the fort stood on the reservation. We also have a herd of Buffalo that you wouldve had to pass on the way to the monument.
I believe I put the monument in the video - it’s been a while since I watched it.
Last time I stayed in Blackfoot Idaho it was over 40 yrs ago and the room was ten bucks.
Oh wow - I bet that was an adventure!
It’s true, most pioneers used the D.E.N.N.I.S. system during their journey west
😂😂😂 that literally made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
Soda Springs. That's where Dr Pepper comes from, a soda spring 😂
😂😂
Working our way through the Oregon Trail 15 day road trip. We camped at Arrow Rock State Historic Site in Missouri a few years ago and met a fellow that was riding a bike all the way along the trail and wondering from some of the remote places you've been in the episode if he rode any of those isolated places you drove through. He did eventually make it to his destination on the bike. Can you tell me what kind of maps you are using, the detail is pretty amazing. Thanks for doing this.
Thanks! I used the Delorme Atlas Gazetteer for each state. The new ones had the OT except for Nebraska.
another good video. peg leg Smith was an interesting character. he must have been all over the west as there is a liars contest inspired by him out in the desert east of LA. Does it still feel like summer up there?
Thank you! Good ole Peg Leg causing havoc everywhere 😂 And yes very hot!
Dingle is a town in County Kerry Ireland. I wonder if Dingle ID was named after that
from the internet :) "Dingle was named by the Mormon prophet Brigham Young. Some say it came from the sounds of trains passing by and others say it was from cowbells he'd hear in the fields."
Great video, Thanks! Where did you get that cool map that shows the trail in red dots?
Thank you! It’s the latest Delorme Atlas and Gazetteer.
@@TravelwithaWiseguy Thanks! That's a big help because I've been frustrated looking for a map that shows the trail routes for my own Oregon Trail expeditions.
This is very cool! Where did you find the maps? I'd love to do this by motorcycle (on and off-road, of course!)
The maps are Delorme Atlas & Gazetteer. Each state has their own maps you can buy online!
@@TravelwithaWiseguy Thanks!
Have you ever tasted the "Soda Water" at Soda Springs?
Haha no but maybe I should go back and try it 😂
Trail looked like it didn't ever have much use.
Defintely not lately!
You didn't go far enough north to find the motel/hotel area of Pocatello. There are plenty.
I went through Pocatello, just didn’t stop there to stay the night.
Some people would pay extra to share a bathroom!
😂😂
Maybe you should have made that phone call to the Shoshone-Bannock Tribal Council before entering the reservation!
Haha! I pretty much explained the situation in the video and when I met someone from the tribe they thought it was cool I was there!
What is the source of the inhabitants income? Can't be farming there!
Will you be going thru Donner pass on this journey?
I will not. I would really love to do that someday though!
I don't understand all of the splits of the Oregon Trail. I guess I always thought all of the travelers along the road took pretty much the same path. But I guess there were multiple paths they could take like a choose your own adventure game?
I imagine the ruts could get pretty bad so maybe going different ways to avoid that? 🤷🏼♂️ And if it were guys leading the way we always knew a better way to go 😂😂
@@TravelwithaWiseguy "I'm taking a short cut" 🤣🤣
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@@TravelwithaWiseguy That's what happened to the Donner Party I bet. The guys just HAD to take a "short cut" and now look at the mess they're in. What? too soon? 😄
@@travis303 Haha! From what I understand they took the directions from a guy who had never actually gone that way himself - so pretty much!
Does anyone take Quads down that trail? Would be a blast!! 😅😅😅😅
Not sure! It’s an Indian reservation so it may be limited.
Where could I get that map
Delorme atlas and gazetteer. You can search by state on Amazon or Garmin’s website.
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wise guy eh 😂
If you’re not aware it’s a play on my last name 😊
The Continental Divide is nowhere near Glenns Ferry, Idaho, it is 400 miles east in Wyoming.
You should follow the civil war next summer
Do you mean go to Civil War battle sites?
Why most vloggers think we want the camera on their face rather than scenery? Makes this almost unwatchable.
Who is your favorite vlogger so I can take notes?