"Ya know, growing up a Gen Xer, we all grew out our hair, we all wore belbottoms, we all had that moment where we were 19 and forcibly held our mailman at gunpoint and explored their body" -Rod Dreher
It's so weird that there's people who want the post office to turn a profit. It's a service that keeps society running. Why would we need highways or elementary schools or fire departments to turn profits. Bonkers.
same thing happened with british Royal Mail before it got sold off. They had "downstream access" for foreign mail carriers that sorted mail Royal Mail would deliver. No one ever wanted to deal with downstream access mail since it was twice as heavy as it technically should have been and was tightly bundled with this plastic tape shit but nothing ever got done about it then royal mail got sold
“Private carriers are so much more efficient than USPS” there is no amount of money you could pay Amazon to deliver a single piece of paper from Futtbuck, Kentucky to Nowhere, Wyoming. Definitely not 25 cents.
@@Gum_Cuzzler the word Hierarchy is anarchist nonsense. It’s the fact that labor aristocrats have always had an up yours, got mine attitude. Trade unions are labor aristocrat hotbeds since 1948 (forget the name of the act, but it made the trade unions expel all the reds)
@@Magnesium-BasedLifeform-i9e You might be thinking of Taft-Hartley, which neutered much of the original National Labor Relations Act of 1935. Much of the labor organizing post-2019 (give or take a couple years) has been an effort to undo the decades of damage done by the passage of this act and similar popular-frontist treachery (e.g. the AFL-CIO merger in the early 1950s) by sellouts in union leadership.
The post dreams of a world in which its entire work force is temp labor it doesn’t have to pay well or give benefits to. I was an RCA for 2 years and quit. It was a beyond terrible experience. It would’ve taken roughly 10-15 years to make full time (unless you get lucky and the person in front of you retires or dies). Keep in mind, that because of extreme carrier shortages I was working over 40 hours weekly. Non-full time people get NOTHING. No sick time. No paid leave. Half the wage of the regular. No retirement. The health insurance was decent. PS - carriers also got the burden of taking hundreds of Amazons packages daily at zero benefit. And I’ll tell you a lot of them ain’t light.
It's a bullshit system imposed on USPS. They have a carrier shortage and they force people to wait a decade to become fulltime. The easiest solution is right there.
I don’t know how anyone that hears this doesn’t just want to imprison the 1% for the good of the public. And “imprison” is just the polite way to say it.
Human Being is more useful and valuable than Human Doing. Gotta keep those ambitious moe fletchers under surveillance and control. This, and the Postal Service, are the only legitimate uses of Government Power.
Luigi has been an incredibly clarifying moment for people on both sides of the partisan divide. Can't say I'm surprised that it turned out so many erstwhile ostensible fascists completely despised by the neolib Dems turned out to be onboard with popping a scumbag.
@@deathmagneto-soy I've suspected for a while that the working-class and downwardly-mobile petty bourgeois among the fascists' target audience are closer to achieving real class consciousness than your average petty bourgie/PMC liberal. The former already understand that the status quo is both unsustainable and hellish for the majority of humanity, and already distrust at least some of the ruling class, even if their understanding of the ruling class and how it functions is (deliberately) distorted by the organized right. Whereas the latter are still to varying degrees in denial about the stability and inherent goodness (or lack thereof) of liberal democracy, remaining either totally oblivious to how the sausage gets made or both intimately familiar with the underlying horrorshow and completely fine with the "trade-offs" involved.
@@deathmagneto-soy This is not to say that _actual_ fascists, predominantly relatively comfortable petty bourgeoisie - "beautiful boaters", landlords, PMC finance bros, etc. - are suddenly going to become allies of the left. I suspect you understand this already but I feel the need to clarify for others reading this thread, in case anyone were to accuse me of trying to pursue a "red-brown alliance" as if that weren't a complete dead-end. Rather, I think those currently getting scammed by the right wing grifters can get peeled off, can be reminded of their shared humanity with the other workers and poor getting screwed at least as much as they are, and won over to the left and our more sober, less salacious understanding of the conditions we face.
NALC Branch 82 here! Just submitted my 'no' vote on the ballot this last week. Thank you for covering this story it's been such an ongoing and annoying process given our current leadership
Postal work, especially in extreme temps of summer in the south and winter in the north (the LLVs do nothing, infact often make both worse) is some of the hardest work anyone can do. I think its still a gr at opportunity for any american to serve the community, and join a union with a pension, but thats the floor and it could be so much better. May these efforts succeed and may all of us demand atleast this much stuff from our own jobs.
Essential workers must always be willing to lay their lives on the line. If not then they are not essential. Oh this is news to you? I'm sorry you didn't read the fine print when you signed the contract to forever be fucked in the asshole by capitalism dumdum but those are the rules.
Apologies for my previous and now deleted post. Sometimes I forget that the words circulating in my brain cavity are meant to stay in there until they die.
Absolutely support the USPS negotiations and ESPECIALLY the inflation tracked compensation adjustment. This has been an ask for a lot of unions and if one gets it sets precedent that we all could get it.
No they don’t. Every Union I’ve ever been a part of or knew someone in has done nothing but look out for the interests of the top people. Unions are a good idea but it’s too often lazy commies who join and run them.
@@mbaron4311 What "unions" have you been joining? The IWW? Shit that's been dead for over a century? Get real. If anything, my union is *too* business-friendly, but such is life when the AFL-CIA hands down an order that to even have a union you need a no-strike clause because of some shit that happened in the 60s.
Thanks for the Christmas present. The Salvadoreans in my neighborhood are sworn enemies of Santa and spent all night launching surface to air ordnance to keep him from coming down the chimneys for what he did down there in the 80s. Now I have something to share with my son 🎁
Anyone in chat ever bought an old windup bedside alarm clock, wrapped it, and climbed in their uncle's bedroom window so they could replace a couple of his vodka bottles with it? If so, did you use Ted Kaczynski as a return address?
Can they get away with slowdowns, is there some procedure that technically is supposed to be done but isnt that can be done on purpose to make things pile up?
Slowing down the mail for everyone or for specific groups (e.g. rural communities) is technically illegal/unconstitutional but postal management insists they're not doing that and don't intend to do that, even though the predictable and consistently observable outcome of their plan to not do afternoon/evening pickup for rural/exurban senders is adding a day to delivery. They think they can make up the difference by speeding up mail processing in and transportation between the big sorting/distribution plants, but in practice this means running clerks and mail handlers into the ground as much as they do the carriers and it doesn't factor in the possibility of people burning out, it doesn't factor in the understaffing death spiral already afflicting the carrier crafts. There are some true believers (and convincing liars who play the part) among the upper-middle layers of management whose perspective comes mostly from spreadsheets, and who genuinely do not seem to understand why both rank-and-file employees and the public at large are calling bullshit.
If it’s so antisemitic maybe u should chill with the 100+ comments u posted on this channel , ur personally boosting this podcast with ur engagement lmao mayyybe not the best use of ur time dude
Could not care less about this shit, I cannot have a single interaction with USPS that isn't mind boggling. If he actually just deletes USPS and the dept of education he'll easily go down at the goat president.
Yes because y fix them and fund them 🙄 surely private insurance doesn’t translate to private mail and education. Privatization of rail and internet aren’t an indication of what will happen? Toll roads? Literally all made worse by privatization because they cut corners to save money and service declines as they make cuts. Also rural areas just won’t be serviced like with rural hospitals.
Fun fact, in the army they make the biggest pain in the ass in the company/battalion the mail room guy. I was the mail room guy for a year when i was in the army, i have severe issues with authority
While USPS is halfway privatized in a lot of ways it's still a federal agency in the sense that it acts as a safety net for veterans whose experiences have fucked them up in ways most private sector employers have difficulty understanding. While plenty of postal workers come from civilian backgrounds or start straight out of college for lack of better options, the way certain things are structured - like payroll keeping time down to hundredths of an hour rather than rounding to the nearest minute, or calling shifts "tours" - are clearly intended to make the transition smoother for the veteran employees. I am halfway convinced one of the hidden social functions of the Postal Service is to pacify disaffected veterans who are otherwise very capable of attempting redacted shit by making them feel useful or at the very least keeping them extremely occupied to the point of exhaustion at the end of each shift.
"Ya know, growing up a Gen Xer, we all grew out our hair, we all wore belbottoms, we all had that moment where we were 19 and forcibly held our mailman at gunpoint and explored their body"
-Rod Dreher
It's so weird that there's people who want the post office to turn a profit.
It's a service that keeps society running. Why would we need highways or elementary schools or fire departments to turn profits. Bonkers.
People who want the post office to turn a profit want to be the ones getting a profit from the post office.
It’s like saying the military isn’t profitable. It’s not a business, it’s a service
Lizard people.
Agreed. It's like buying a meal, eating it, and wondering why it didn't turn a profit.
Amazon saves at least $2 per package having the USPS handle deliveries
same thing happened with british Royal Mail before it got sold off. They had "downstream access" for foreign mail carriers that sorted mail Royal Mail would deliver. No one ever wanted to deal with downstream access mail since it was twice as heavy as it technically should have been and was tightly bundled with this plastic tape shit but nothing ever got done about it then royal mail got sold
“Private carriers are so much more efficient than USPS” there is no amount of money you could pay Amazon to deliver a single piece of paper from Futtbuck, Kentucky to Nowhere, Wyoming. Definitely not 25 cents.
It would be like >$100, just paying the driver's wage/benefits and vehicle fuel/maintenance for going so far off a profitable route.
As a Union person, i am always amazed by the lack of respect for organized postal workers from trade unions.
Peace love and solidarity!
People just love hierarchies. Anything to make you feel like you’re better than someone else.
@@Gum_Cuzzler the word Hierarchy is anarchist nonsense.
It’s the fact that labor aristocrats have always had an up yours, got mine attitude. Trade unions are labor aristocrat hotbeds since 1948 (forget the name of the act, but it made the trade unions expel all the reds)
@@Magnesium-BasedLifeform-i9e You might be thinking of Taft-Hartley, which neutered much of the original National Labor Relations Act of 1935. Much of the labor organizing post-2019 (give or take a couple years) has been an effort to undo the decades of damage done by the passage of this act and similar popular-frontist treachery (e.g. the AFL-CIO merger in the early 1950s) by sellouts in union leadership.
@@discountchocolate4577 yeah, this. Thanks
Happy Holidays to all the members of the Chapo Gay Union.
Also to the non-members.
And the haters.
Especially to the haters.
This was a surprise. Right as i clocked in and started casing my route this comes on.
NALC Branch 133, voting no in this trash TA
The post dreams of a world in which its entire work force is temp labor it doesn’t have to pay well or give benefits to. I was an RCA for 2 years and quit. It was a beyond terrible experience. It would’ve taken roughly 10-15 years to make full time (unless you get lucky and the person in front of you retires or dies). Keep in mind, that because of extreme carrier shortages I was working over 40 hours weekly. Non-full time people get NOTHING. No sick time. No paid leave. Half the wage of the regular. No retirement. The health insurance was decent.
PS - carriers also got the burden of taking hundreds of Amazons packages daily at zero benefit. And I’ll tell you a lot of them ain’t light.
It's a bullshit system imposed on USPS. They have a carrier shortage and they force people to wait a decade to become fulltime. The easiest solution is right there.
Tysm. Great interview. Learned a lot on current conditions. Go Union ❤ we love our postal workers
I saw the postman's package and I'm gay.
Most believable origin story.
I still enjoy the cumtown crossover comments
God, he REALLY delivers...
Hell yeah dude
Omg dude I am gay too
I don’t know how anyone that hears this doesn’t just want to imprison the 1% for the good of the public. And “imprison” is just the polite way to say it.
Human Being is more useful and valuable than Human Doing. Gotta keep those ambitious moe fletchers under surveillance and control. This, and the Postal Service, are the only legitimate uses of Government Power.
And Roads. And Aqueducts. And Energy. Nationalise Energy.
Luigi has been an incredibly clarifying moment for people on both sides of the partisan divide.
Can't say I'm surprised that it turned out so many erstwhile ostensible fascists completely despised by the neolib Dems turned out to be onboard with popping a scumbag.
@@deathmagneto-soy I've suspected for a while that the working-class and downwardly-mobile petty bourgeois among the fascists' target audience are closer to achieving real class consciousness than your average petty bourgie/PMC liberal.
The former already understand that the status quo is both unsustainable and hellish for the majority of humanity, and already distrust at least some of the ruling class, even if their understanding of the ruling class and how it functions is (deliberately) distorted by the organized right.
Whereas the latter are still to varying degrees in denial about the stability and inherent goodness (or lack thereof) of liberal democracy, remaining either totally oblivious to how the sausage gets made or both intimately familiar with the underlying horrorshow and completely fine with the "trade-offs" involved.
@@deathmagneto-soy This is not to say that _actual_ fascists, predominantly relatively comfortable petty bourgeoisie - "beautiful boaters", landlords, PMC finance bros, etc. - are suddenly going to become allies of the left. I suspect you understand this already but I feel the need to clarify for others reading this thread, in case anyone were to accuse me of trying to pursue a "red-brown alliance" as if that weren't a complete dead-end. Rather, I think those currently getting scammed by the right wing grifters can get peeled off, can be reminded of their shared humanity with the other workers and poor getting screwed at least as much as they are, and won over to the left and our more sober, less salacious understanding of the conditions we face.
Always support labor organization they keep us safe
NALC Branch 82 here! Just submitted my 'no' vote on the ballot this last week.
Thank you for covering this story it's been such an ongoing and annoying process given our current leadership
Postal work, especially in extreme temps of summer in the south and winter in the north (the LLVs do nothing, infact often make both worse) is some of the hardest work anyone can do.
I think its still a gr at opportunity for any american to serve the community, and join a union with a pension, but thats the floor and it could be so much better.
May these efforts succeed and may all of us demand atleast this much stuff from our own jobs.
Canada Post was on strike; our government just forced them back to work :(
🎵 Blame Canada 🎵
Essential workers must always be willing to lay their lives on the line.
If not then they are not essential.
Oh this is news to you?
I'm sorry you didn't read the fine print when you signed the contract to forever be fucked in the asshole by capitalism dumdum but those are the rules.
Canada is so much worse than the stereotypes lead non-Canadians to believe. The racism is bad too
We're not Canada
Apologies for my previous and now deleted post.
Sometimes I forget that the words circulating in my brain cavity are meant to stay in there until they die.
Solidarity with all postal workers!!!
Absolutely support the USPS negotiations and ESPECIALLY the inflation tracked compensation adjustment. This has been an ask for a lot of unions and if one gets it sets precedent that we all could get it.
I'm a card-carrying member of the Chapo Gay Union.
✊️ I am giving you a solidarity fist.
@@dirrdevil - Solidarity fisting is how we win.
The harder the fisting, the more the winning.
We need of cost of rimming adjustment
Solidarity fisting from a fellow Samantha Seder admirer and complimentary rimming adjustments. It truly is the most wonderful time of the year.
3rd and gay. Respect to the postmen in the USA, for the union(s) make us strong!
No they don’t. Every Union I’ve ever been a part of or knew someone in has done nothing but look out for the interests of the top people. Unions are a good idea but it’s too often lazy commies who join and run them.
@@mbaron4311 So you're a lazy commie?
@@mbaron4311 What "unions" have you been joining? The IWW? Shit that's been dead for over a century? Get real. If anything, my union is *too* business-friendly, but such is life when the AFL-CIA hands down an order that to even have a union you need a no-strike clause because of some shit that happened in the 60s.
@@mbaron4311 First time I heard of cops being lazy commies. The lazy part I believe...
@@mbaron4311 Why don’t I believe you?
MORE INTERVIEWS WITH UNION BOYS AND UNION GIRLS!!
My homie has been a carrier for USPS for 22 years, and she is afraid she won't get shit for the $60k/yr pension she is owed.
finally something to listen to while i work
Thanks for the Christmas present. The Salvadoreans in my neighborhood are sworn enemies of Santa and spent all night launching surface to air ordnance to keep him from coming down the chimneys for what he did down there in the 80s. Now I have something to share with my son 🎁
God bless the letter carriers. 🎄
Good morning Vietnam
Bring back Thurn und taxis
Anyone in chat ever bought an old windup bedside alarm clock, wrapped it, and climbed in their uncle's bedroom window so they could replace a couple of his vodka bottles with it?
If so, did you use Ted Kaczynski as a return address?
38 minutes!? Mr.Chapo!! You'll be hearing from my lawyers soon.
Hold up wait a minute MR CHAPO
✉️❤MORNIN CHAPO❤️ ✉️
So glad you had tyler on! Leader for the future!
What a title!
Hey, there it is.
Can they get away with slowdowns, is there some procedure that technically is supposed to be done but isnt that can be done on purpose to make things pile up?
Slowing down the mail for everyone or for specific groups (e.g. rural communities) is technically illegal/unconstitutional but postal management insists they're not doing that and don't intend to do that, even though the predictable and consistently observable outcome of their plan to not do afternoon/evening pickup for rural/exurban senders is adding a day to delivery. They think they can make up the difference by speeding up mail processing in and transportation between the big sorting/distribution plants, but in practice this means running clerks and mail handlers into the ground as much as they do the carriers and it doesn't factor in the possibility of people burning out, it doesn't factor in the understaffing death spiral already afflicting the carrier crafts. There are some true believers (and convincing liars who play the part) among the upper-middle layers of management whose perspective comes mostly from spreadsheets, and who genuinely do not seem to understand why both rank-and-file employees and the public at large are calling bullshit.
Wilc Chambermaid
Dick Chamfered minge.
Hi Chapo
gloom of night
❤
Holy Christ this is boring
This antisemitic podcast
Idk seems pretty pro-semen to me
If it’s so antisemitic maybe u should chill with the 100+ comments u posted on this channel , ur personally boosting this podcast with ur engagement lmao mayyybe not the best use of ur time dude
Hasbarist bait used to be believable.
@ reported
@ getting the word out my dude. Look in the mirror
Could not care less about this shit, I cannot have a single interaction with USPS that isn't mind boggling. If he actually just deletes USPS and the dept of education he'll easily go down at the goat president.
A swing and a miss...
Evil berdyderg? Now I’ve seen everything
You'll have the same problems you do now but pay more for the experience.
Yes because y fix them and fund them 🙄 surely private insurance doesn’t translate to private mail and education. Privatization of rail and internet aren’t an indication of what will happen? Toll roads? Literally all made worse by privatization because they cut corners to save money and service declines as they make cuts. Also rural areas just won’t be serviced like with rural hospitals.
wtf even is chapo audience anymore lmfao
Fun fact, in the army they make the biggest pain in the ass in the company/battalion the mail room guy. I was the mail room guy for a year when i was in the army, i have severe issues with authority
then why did you join the army?
While USPS is halfway privatized in a lot of ways it's still a federal agency in the sense that it acts as a safety net for veterans whose experiences have fucked them up in ways most private sector employers have difficulty understanding. While plenty of postal workers come from civilian backgrounds or start straight out of college for lack of better options, the way certain things are structured - like payroll keeping time down to hundredths of an hour rather than rounding to the nearest minute, or calling shifts "tours" - are clearly intended to make the transition smoother for the veteran employees. I am halfway convinced one of the hidden social functions of the Postal Service is to pacify disaffected veterans who are otherwise very capable of attempting redacted shit by making them feel useful or at the very least keeping them extremely occupied to the point of exhaustion at the end of each shift.