@@redmercury1159 "i would like to see if those pro-life supporters are willing to help economically women who are forced to have babies with severe disabilities with medical procedures and expensive treatment....or if they are even willing to help homeless children in the streets....they are just pro-birth, not pro-life." Quoting a comment on here. With that being said, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS.
i would like to see if those pro-life supporters are willing to help economically women who are forced to have babies with severe disabilities with medical procedures and expensive treatment....or if they are even willing to help homeless children in the streets....they are just pro-birth, not pro-life.
They are mainly just doing what their religion tells them to do and are primarily not very well educated. When they attempt to give scientific narratives to support their agenda, it is almost exclusively regurgitated from other sources. But, such is the world of debate.
i get so tired of this argument. these women couldve given these children up for adoption. and what if they wanted to keep the baby regardless of their financial situation?? what if they are happy with their decision? do you believe in taking away a womans right to have a child simply because her finances arent pristine?? and what if she never becomes financially straight...do you think she should never have the right to bare children?? people have been having babies since the beginning of time regardless of their finances. some of the happiest people are some of the poorest. because they have families
@@christineb1989 The fucking fact is that abortion is not murder. A fetus cannot feel pain. A fetus cannot live unsupported by the mother. It's a part of the mother
A M no. But woman deciding that she's not ready to take care of a child for whatever reason is not the same as keeping someone against their will to work without pay. Comparing the two is a very absurd and ignorant thing to do. Not harassing a woman because she wants to make her own decisions on something that my personal beliefs don't want to divulge in, is not the same as actively standing by and allowing people to be hurt and discriminated against. There is no baby if the woman does not wish to have one. They are one until the child has left the womb and to bring a child into the world in the knowledge that you would not properly care for it is far more irresponsible.
A M I think when it comes to morals you must ask yourself, "Are these moral beliefs really benefiting the subject, or are they benefiting my own conscience and self." Moral, ethical treatment of animals is valid because animals can experience pain and suffering. Moral treatment of a foetus is different because it depends on your personal beliefs and how they tie in to your view of the foetus. Personally, I have no religion so i feel no one owns your body but you. And is it not morally wrong to actively deny and prevent vulnerable and usually young women from preventing the birth of a child that would only suffer due to the care she knew she was not able to provide?
IF. YOU. WANT. LESS. ABORTION. CAMPAIGN. FOR. MORE. USE . OF. CONTRACEPTION. like seriously catholics go on about how ppl shouldnt use contraception, then get angry when people accidentally get pregnant.
because they don't even care about the babies or the pregnancies, they just want control over other people's bodies. that's why they can be both anti-contraception and anti-abortion.
I’m sorry, I’m not saying that I know anything about this topic, but you don’t seem like you do either. It says so in the Bible, the Bible is gods word, Christians and Catholics believe in god. These people have honestly explained their point ever so poorly, but what they mean is mainly that if you have sex you should be prepared to have a baby, since it’s gods will and choice on wether you do get a baby (keeping in mind that these people whole heartedly trust in god and believe in god) that’s why they are both anti contraception AND anti abortion. I doubt that you actually do, but if you do actually care about this, feel free to ask me for my contact information. Sorry if I offended you, I just felt like sharing some of my own truths, even if they might not align with yours.
I'm glad they spoke with people who actually have experience with abortions. All the idiots in the comments seem to think they should have asked more people like that bible grandfather who will never carry a child.
Thats like saying i dont understand why charity's help other people... Because they are trying to protect another human being whos not even getting the chance at life. Arent we lucky we were giving that who are we to take that away from a unborn child
Do you know how many of those wee babes remain unadopted and stay in those homes? Some of these women are sometimes too young to take care of a child or simply cannot afford to raise another child. do you know how difficult it is to raise a child with severe disabilities? What happens to that child when the parents are gone or too old to take care of it? These women do not hate children, many want to have children, but sometimes the time isn't right or they cannot handle the burden of one. Would you rather a girl throw herself repeated of the stairs or punch herself into a miscarriage? Go to somewhere unlicensed and end up with a life-threathening infection? Dumping the unwanted child at someone's door or in a dumpster? Yes sometimes the mother will in turn love the child, but in many rape cases the mother does not, and mistreats and abuses the child, because she's unwilling to love the child, because it's an extension of her rapist. People need to keep their personal feelings out of the choice of others, specially men. Religion has no place in this. So far religions are losing followers because it only pushes away people, people that need help, but it won't support them and people are appalled by it. You can still be religious and be pro-choice.
Exactly! well said. The average person never stops to think about how shit a life it will be FOR THE CHILD if they are born in circumstances when they are not wanted, severely disabled or where they are born into a family with not enough money to support them growing up and following their interests. Others will be born into families who already have too many children and therefore never get enough time and attention for their mental well being. Many times women choose for the right reasons - for the sake of the child. Maybe they have had an abusive childhood themselves and they know that with one more child they might snap and treat all their children abusively and damage them because they just cannot cope anymore with extra responsibility. There is more to the story that plain black and white! Not only that these religious folk dont realise that without abortion our planet would have went under decades ago considering we are overpopulated as it is
@@jamieangel3766 Selfish, you just want justification.... that child should be given a chance. Everyone that is born had a 1 and 4 trillion chance of being born , we are all special and should be given a chance. Some of the most amazing people are from those who came from hard times and deified the odds
Maybe they shouldn’t be having sex if they can’t raise a child? Use birth control? Why should they be allowed to keep getting pregnant because they sleep around just to kill a baby? I agree with choice. But under the right circumstances. Rape, ill health of mother or child, and never after 12 weeks.
wrong. a newborn baby will automatically be adopted out. there is no wait for the babies. now if youre adopting a newborn, you could wait upwards of more than 5 years to finally take a baby home.
its the mother's decision, not the county's. if she wants an abortion, she will get that abortion. if she regrets it, she regrets it, if she's happy with it, she's happy with it! the mother does not need your opinion in this decision, i hope everyone knows that.
Im gonna be honest I kinda cringed when I saw people bringing their religious beliefs into the argument , one guy said " our bodies are not our own, our bodies are the temple of the holy spirit " & then another with rosary beads , if you re trying to get younger people on the fence to side with your argument , bringing your personal religious beliefs into it isn,t the way to win over undecided people .
I got pregnant on the Norplant contraception back in '96. I was told if I went ahead with the pregnancy then my baby would be born without arms, legs, eyes, or possibly half of a brain or even no head. I was totally against abortions until I sat in that chair at that moment, it wasn't about me but that child. I didn't have to choose because I miscarried at almost 3 months and had to have a D&C, but I've though about that baby often. Had I carried to full term she would have had a horrendous life if she'd lived, and the health problems along with the deformities would have given her a life filled with unbearable pain. Who am I to sentence anyone to a life like that? I still don't agree with abortions just because you don't want a baby, or some asinine reason like that, but for the sake of the baby's life or that of the mother there shouldn't be an issue with having an abortion. I've now got 3 beautiful children, but I'm a mom of 4, Riley was a life and she was here, even if only for a few weeks under my heart❤️
Hugh Mungus - On a serious note, only a few people are recorded as having half a brain, they've found that when one side is damaged the other side can actually adapt to handle the functions of the other side and you basically have full functionality without loss of the functions of the damaged/missing side of the brain. Pretty sure when you posted your comment you were hoping for this kind of reply and weren't actually trolling.
John Colby and like a lot of trolls today, you're uneducated and probably living in squalor. I've been married for 26 years with 3 healthy children and 2 babies that sadly didn't survive because of this horrid birth control. I've also got scars all down my arm because when they put it in it moved down to my elbow, there were 5 little tubes that they had to dig for. So I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be lying about...unless it's the fact that I'm married and you're alone and bitter, but chin up....I'm sure you'll find a person that'll troll YT with you one day. Stop being a bloody dolt and go to school
Abortion should be the decision of the woman (and man, if applicable). It's nobody else's business. To men who are pro life- no problem, make sure you don't get any woman pregnant. To women who are pro life- no problem, make sure you don't get pregnant. Otherwise mind your own business.
I would feel more prone to listen to a woman who've had children, risky pregnancies and not an easy life raising them being pro-life than a guy saying that a woman's body is not their own. It's ridiculous not to let a woman abort when the foetus is not viable! I wonder how those "pro-lifers" defend that...
What about a guy who has had children and has not had an easy life raising them? Would you be prone to listen to him being pro-life? Would you be against abortion when the fetus is viable?
Michelle Leung . I had 3 children. And then I found out I was pregnant with my 4 child. I was going through a court battle over my father's estate. I had 3 young children. Plus, I had health issues. Heart failure and had a pacemaker. But I never thought about abortion. Not once. I coundnt do it. I just coundnt live with myself. My daughter is now 17 years old❤❤❤
It breaks my heart that these poor women have to flee thier country like a criminal to do something so heartbreaking! They should have doctors! Thier family's! Thier home town for something so strong and sad! Because haveing in abortion is not something easy! So if a women decides to have one let them!!!
"It breaks my heart that these poor women have to flee thier country like a criminal to do something so heartbreaking!" They had to flee their country "like a criminal" because they were. "Because haveing in abortion is not something easy!" Most murderers don't find murdering initially to be easy except if they have some antisocial personnality disorder like psychopathy. The fact that it may or may not be easy/convenient has no bearing on whether murderers should be persecuted and prosecuted. "So if a women decides to have one let them!!!" Your rhetoric is underwhelming & your reasoning seems absent.
@@emilefrenette9325 I don’t know if you are a guy or a girl but at the end of the day it does not matter. It’s their bodies and they should have absolute control of their bodies. I hope you are never in a situation where you need to have an abortion. You speak so evil of the women who had to face the horrors of having one. There are true monsters upon us. People that think like you with the authority to choose over someone else disgust me. Deal with your body and let others be
Religion, the root of all evil, the root of all ignorance. As a person that went through exactly what that one mom went through I can't imagine having to wait for my baby to eventually die in the womb. So unfair and disrespectful to both her and her baby. Much love to anyone that has had to go through such awful circumstances.
I am so so so incredibly sorry to hear that you had to go through something so terrible. I can’t even imagine what it must be like. I am in no place to tell you what’s wrong or what’s right, no one but you is. I just wanted to say that the same way you don’t see the appeal in religion, religious people might not see the appeal in your beliefs. I’m sorry, I just think it’s quite unnecessary to spread more hate, but I really see where you’re coming from. But humans only know the best that we know. We don’t know anymore. For some that’s god. I’m sending you love, I wish you all the best and I will pray for you. (I hope you don’t mind, like I said, it’s the best that I know) God bless. I hope I didn’t offend you in any way, shape or form.
We are all free to have our own beliefs. But in a secular country you cannot limit people's rights based on religious dogmas. If you are against abortion because of your religion, just choose to not do one. If in your mind your God do not approve gay marriage, that's fine. But don't even think that you can decide the faith of the entire society based on an entity whose rules seems to vary through time and space.
That guy seriously said "our body" to a strange woman?? 😂 This hypocricy- I bet he would never even consider a vasectomy. It's not about the woman or any unborn child, he's claiming power over her in the name of religion.
I am pro choice as it breaks my heart to see women having to have a child that was a result of rape or like that one lady who was told the baby wouldn't survive anyways. or what if the baby won't be born healthy? I agree that abortions shouldn't be later than 12 weeks and not used lightly cause some women are too lazy to get contraception.. so it depends on the case.
12 weeks? You realize that many serious defects aren't detectable at 12 weeks? How about we leave medical decisions up to the patient involved and their doctors?
zammmerjammer actually a lot of things are detected at the 12 week scan... and as I previously said I am pro choice. So if there is something really wrong with the baby and they find out later then I think it's 100% for the mother to choose what she wants to do under those circumstances.
zammmerjammer up to 12 weeks if everything is ok with the baby. I was talking about women who don't care and use it as a type of contraception. If the baby is healthy and nothing wrong with it let's say at 25 weeks then yes I do think it's wrong to just have an abortion at that time. So as I said it always depends on the circumstances.
No women "use it as a type of contraception." That's just not a thing that happens. Women may use it when contraception fails. I know of a woman who had an IUD inserted but it came out, unbeknownst to her, and she chose to abort the ensuing pregnancy.
Abortion is always murder❗ It is a very big sin. Please don't do it if you are in the position to do it. It is taking someone's life!! If you don't want the child, give it away for adoption.
@@electroskates2434 That 's my choice, not yours, mind your own business. If people get murdered by abortion I tell it on platforms like this. Maybe there will be lives saved if some pregnant mothers do realise what they are planning to do.
This is still highly accurate and a problem in Ireland. The extreme Pro-Life people there frown upon abortion because of religion, from my experiences. The religion and whole heartedness of Ireland are closely tied, and while I love this part of the people here...Unfortunately its hard to keep a cushion of joyous banter when a man is telling women what they can and cannot do with their body.
I always see older generations arguing on belhaf of the pro-lifers most, if not, all of the time. It's the same way here in the USA. I'm so proud of my mother, who is 72. Shes a veteran of 34 years (many of those years in medicine) and doesn't think she has a right to decide what other women do with their bodies. I was raised always having the freedom to make my own moral decisions but I would never sleep with someone I didn't love enough to raise a child with. Personally, I would never push a significant other to get an abortion, other than for necessary medical reasons. However, I let others make their own decisions and live their own lives. When it comes to all that religious shenanigans, I grew up in church and was once a youth leader. I'd rather religion not be a factor in whether or not someone has the right to live in one way or another. Live and let live. Cheers
I have been pregnant 5 times. I lost my first to miscarriage. Only 1 was planned. The other 4 were happy surprises. I had sex. I accept the consequences of my actions and inactions. Whatever happens to me happens for a reason. I will never take it out on a defenseless being.
My little sister would not be able to survive giving birth, do you expect her to carry a child while knowing that she and most likely the baby would die?
“Our bodies are not of our own. It is the temple of the Holy Spirit.” I’m sorry but I really believe this is my body and not some “spirits”. Also I’m kinda on the gray line when comes to this. I believe women should have a choice in the matter especially if it’s rape or if the child has to manny deformities to the point the child will have no quality of life. This also goes if the child would kill the mother. But I believe every thing should be in moderation. Unfortunately I’ve seen other documentaries about this from other countries and some kill the child only because they are a girl. I am not ok with that at all or if they were stupid and did not use protection like teenage moms and they just get rid of the child like it’s nothing. That is where I draw the line.
I am from Ireland. Small update on all this watching. Abortion is now legal to any woman who believes it is necessary for them whether they have been raped, the baby has died in the womb or have made a wrong choice with a partner. I am pro choice and can say Ireland’s laws are finally moving away from the Catholic Church for the better.
I’ve had two abortions at early stages I’m so glad I live in uk and not country where abortions illegal I could of died from going to a backyard abortionist or had to,go through childbirth and then give children up for adoption
@@cscs3557 you have no idea what the circumstances around her decision were. How dare you try to shame for something that she chose for herself and herself only.
Why did you have the abortions? Just because it was inconvenient and you didn’t bother to protect yourself? Or because of medical reasons? Being so calm when talking about killing a baby? That’s wrong.
Did you just get pregnant by accident? Twice? if so Going throught childbirth and giving the babies up was the one thing you could have done for him or her. If its the case that you just got pregnant and didnt mean too then maybe after two times you shouldnt be sleeping with anyone untill your grown up enought to understand sex can result in pregnancy. Abortion isnt birth control
@@djfhfh again, you have no idea what the circumstances surrounding her decisions were. A woman should not be forced to carry out a pregnancy of a nonviable fetus or to remain in a condition that would kill her. You have absolutely no right to question her
At the very least they should allow women to have abortions if their children won't survive into birth anyways. It would save both of them huge amounts of suffering. And reducing the number of unwanted children born into the world, even if you disregard the moral issue of killing the baby, would be beneficial to society as a whole! People always fail to think about those parts of the issue.
Not for cases like defected fetus but in a normal pregnancy who wants abortion should not be allowed because they could have just used a contraceptive or condom but instead they will end a life to get out of their mistake.
Sam St Amant you realize a condom is not full proof right? It can be tampered with or its a case of rape. If it’s tampered with then the man will be forced to pay for years for something he did not mean to do in the slightest. If it’s rape the women will have to pay for years constantly being reminded of it because of something outside their control. And why should something that does not even know it’s alive have the same rights as someone contributing to society?
As a religious person, I obviously have to share my two cents and also share my truth. I think what everyone seems to miss is that it boils down to what you believe in. If you whole heartedly believe in god, you aren’t afraid of any hardship (which isn’t possible because unlike god, we are not perfect. Plus fear is not of god). Say you get pregnant and at the time you didn’t feel like sex was that serious, so you didn’t think that to have sex you need to be ready for a baby. But if even then, regardless of what is thrown at you, even if you have to fight so very hard and you hate it all, if you stay firm and still trust in god, the that to me is true faith. And I truly believe that with god you can conquer all. I see the points people are making in this comment section, and before I became religious I would’ve completely agreed. I still wish everyone here the best, regardless of beliefs and opinions. If you’ve read this far I hope you have a very nice day and god bless.
That girl spoke out of complete ignorance saying that women don't need abortion because she just knows and because of her religion - shes never even been pregnant but obviously just really wants to be. Thats great for her but doesnt mean the rest of irish women cannot have the 'human right' to her own body. The religious view is so simplistic it does not take into account many many factors of why it is right in some cases to abort.
I hate that abortion exists, I'm a big sinner I had an abortion when I was a teen because I was threatened that if I didnt do it I was gonna pay with my life. Now I'm still here struggling thinking what wouldve been if I never aborted my baby and run away where they couldn't find me. I guess I was such a big coward...and now I'm here not sleeping well I did something so bad and for that I will always live with that regret. If you pregnant and you planning to have an abortion, please don't do it, you will be killing part of you and a life.
If I could go back years I would never abort my baby, I wouldn't be a coward, and if I had to pay with my life for keeping the baby then I wouldve have to. Cause after all I died the day I had that abortion😭
@@lizbear585 I believe in a God of love, forgiveness, and restoration. In time, by His grace, we can even come to forgive ourselves. We are all sinners in need of His grace. May God bless you, keep you, and bring you peace!
We all know that pro-life people say that abortion is killing, and killing is never accepted. That seems appropriate. But you guys almost forget something, those people who get abortion, they have their own reasons. nobody wants to kill people, what about girls who are raped, then have to give birth to that unwanted child? How can they love and give them the best? How can they stand this child - a painful memory of crime, humiliation and torment? Or for those who are poor, how can they assure that they will be able to give the child enough food, take care of them and pay their tuition fees? Yet those women cant even be able to take care of themselves, these unwanted children are seen as a burden. They will likely to experience hunger, ignorance on the path of development? Hey pro-life people, do you want that? If you against abortion for the sake of those children, you have to have a broader view.
I support Ireland's law abortion, because when initially someone decides to have sex and give a birth, why she regards later and wants to not give birth. That is why, being charged 14 years is still not enough.
Just one point; abortions as such were'nt "illegal" in Ireland, you were just not allowed to terminate a pregnancy within the country. You were allowed to leave the country for the explicit purpose of having an abortion, and the medical professionals were allowed to tell you about such procedures abroad... With that, then the question becomes, why should they have to go abroad?
Decision of having a baby or aborting should be an individual decision each women should have a choice for , not under any pressure of anyone. No one else has more right to her womb more than herself!!! - My perspective .
I have always been in the camp that abortion shouldn’t be done unless the woman or girl had been raped. If not, and your boyfriend or husband is an asshole, that’s not the poor babies fault not. My brother was excited to be a dad but the girl took that away when she got manipulated by her mother and she went behind my brothers back and went to abort. He was gonna have twins too. 😢 such a shame
probably the Irish will vote to allow it for the tough cases which are rare but keep it illegal for the vast majority of cases. That is, if they are given the choice to do that.
The choice will most likely be abortion up to 12 weeks without any or may restrictions or keep the ammendment as it is and ignore the genuine rare cases it would be needed (mainly serious health concerns to mother or baby) I don't want to vote yes to either of these
Why can't they just change the law to if the child will suffer in life if born or still in the fetus, then the parents can make the decision about the abortion
All women should get together and vote on pro-choice. It is their body and though it 'takes two to tango', men shouldn't be part of a vote that is about what women can do with their bodies. I'm pro-choice mainly because as a man, it isn't my place to make decisions for women about their bodies. Having a choice is a freedom and freedom is good.
Player Review but when the man has to pay and support them for a good portion of their life compared to the nine months of pregnancy they should have a say
Because that’s all you can do, when you find out you can’t carry to full term or somethings wrong you can’t just cry, the grief will overtake you and destroy you, finding out the gender so they can memorialise the child they weren’t able to have disproves your accusation of her apparently “smiling about her child being dead”
A Responsibility is the key. An unborn baby should not answer for mistakes of parents...a baby killed without pain relief the most barbaric ways, by middle Age punishment for criminals 💔 only because his biological parents are irresponsible and selfish 💔
Well im 100% against abortion if a woman lay down with a man who she wanted too and got pregnant. But i think abortions should be offered in certain circumstances. If you really cannot get pregnant really dont want a baby dont sleep with someone simple really
@@djfhfh AMEN SISTER EMMA! its funny how the first thing a pro choice person says is "so you dont think that a woman who has just been raped should be afforded the rights to have an abortion??!!" this is always their argument. like we're stupid. no, do you not realize that the number of women having abortions because of rape is about 1% of all abortion cases???!!! forget arguing for the most obvious and biggest reason women have abortions being because of convenience!! no no no lets ignore that elephant in the room and maybe everyone else will too. like we're fucking stupid. they arent pro choice. they are pro abortion. i dont see them offering these women other choices. i see them as abortion peddlers. choice has nothing to do with it. a womans body has nothing to do with it. its all about convenience. nobody cares about these women. when are they going to wake up and realize it! your comment was AWESOME!
@@redmercury1159 yes abortion is NOT a form of birth control i watched a documentary last night which a pro choice girl said its not even a baby its a collection of cells... Every human being on this earth started off the same way difference is we were giving the chance to grow into who we are today all they talk about is their rights their rights.. What about the person that little collection of cells will become.. Weres their right. Why do you get the right to be born and experience life in all its heartaches and joys and that little thing doesnt. They say its not a baby yet but something has started a life has begun.. I was actually pro choice until i became pregnant myself and went to my first scan and seen my tinyy tinyy little baby moving around.. He is now a very happy healthy little boy and the joy of my life ♥
@@djfhfh YES MA'AM miss Emma! its time to stop messing around and call it what it is! women should know that if they decide to have an abortion, they have bought into the lie that the mainstream media has fed them. not biology class! not anatomy!! not chemistry!! you have literally allowed yourself to be manipulated by a person inside your television screen. you have allowed fanatic feminists to brainwash you into thinking you arent signing your babys death warrant the minute you hand over the cash. its just a clump of cells.....abortion clinics dont perform abortions until about 6 weeks into your pregnancy...look up a 6 week old fetus and tell me if it looks like just clump of cells. i hate it when they call the baby that. its the weakest argument i have ever heard but its the only one they use!!
Everyone should have the freedom to abortion. I'm not saying that it is right to do so, but we don't know the story behind the people who decides to get it.
Nearly 5 million people live in Ireland, and only 2 million voted and the Yes campaign won with just over a million. So 3 million paddies could not be bothered to leave the PUB.
Im from Tanzania, an East African country. Abortion is illegal here with exception of Rape, Malformed baby, and if the pregnancy is a danger to the mother's health.
Soo apart from rape victims or specfic cases where medically there are complications in pregnancy . Why are these women having unprotected sex if the babies are unwanted? And where are the men some of these women hvin sex wit? Ur traveling to another country hv an abortion where is the other party who is responsible for this?
Nosavez says: "Texas no poor state" == I didn't even name which states. You are so sensitive about it. Let me put it this way, Oil rich Middle Eastern countries look rich by GDP but if you take out the oil revenue, they all are about the same as average African countries. Did you know this? I suppose you are a Texan? I should have said. "religious, uneducated and poor." lol
Ireland is definitely not poor, and in spite of what was shown in this documentary, it's barely religious, too. There are still some very conservative Catholics around, but the country is becoming secular very quickly.
Skylight K says: "There are still some very conservative Catholics around, but the country is becoming secular very quickly." "Ireland is definitely not poor, and in spite of what was shown in this documentary" == I'm not so convinced until you show the proof. Potato famines followed by mass migration to US would have never happened "Nearly 140,000 children living in consistent poverty" www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/nearly-140-000-children-living-in-consistent-poverty-1.2445159 That's just as bad as US South.
Potato famines...? What do the potato famines (that happened hundreds of years ago) have to do with the current economy? Ireland is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, based on the GDP - currently in the 7th place: www.businessinsider.com/the-richest-countries-in-the-world-2017-3/#30-japan-gdp-per-capita-38893-31732-1 www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/richest-countries-in-the-world?page=12
Abortion is murder. Once another body is inside yours it is no longer YOUR choice. What would be CHOICE would be to choose to use contraception or choose to not have sex unless you want a child.
*sigh* guh.. this encounter ~@3:00 mark, to me as an American, revels polar opposite, results via the old man in a sense. Hear me out! BeCAUSE: imagine the Lad, instead, as a female millennial, supporting EITHER side of this.... "issue"... Hear me out Woman 1 asks hypothetical Woman 2 to stop filming her (POLITELY, mind you;) and WITH manners.... I mean, we 💯% heard a, "please"-- maybe even a "Thank you." Now (listen) us as Americans would >75% expect and scream/shout/wail/cry/proclaim loudly for all to hear, "THIS IS A PUBLIC PARK, I can film w/e, whom ever I WANT! (Your presence here equals consent to a risk of being shot/filmed) 🥴 Guh 🫶 I miss Ireland, I embarked on a Trafalgar tour once throughout the UK ONCE ~'05, '06. I was a month shy of turning 16. Thought Dublin, the highlight of Ireland imo was gnar as shit. Strolling the sidewalks was a vibe I'd never experienced before, and hagus.... not on my top ten favorite foods list✌️✌️ BUT; this Capital was maxed out in pride for country, pride and pubs😆 Leave the children alone, To world peace, ✝️ 🇺🇲 ❤️
You know what's crazy, I was supposedly supposed to be born severely disabled with a disorder called Trisomy 18 which consequently would have meant I would have been born severely deformed etc and the doctors could've sworn without a doubt by doing ultrasounds that I would be born with deformities etc etc but when I was born they took me right away and did a detailed examination on me and said I was fine and here I am 15 years later, but the funny thing is is that the doctors told my parents that they might wanna consider just going ahead and getting an abortion cuz I'd be born so messed up but here I am making this comment right now 15 years later, crazy right.
smh Gonna force people to have babies they don't want. They're gonna abuse that unwanted child. The child is gonna grow up wishing they actually did get aborted.
zammmerjammer as a woman myself who is pro life, I found that pro life campaigners didn't get enough say in this video and didn't get the chance to fully explain their reasons behind their views. Didn't hear much pro life women speak in this video at all. All they showed was men speak from a religious angle which isn't the main reason why people are against abortion. It is clear to see whether you are for/against, it is a biased documentary. Most air time went to pro choice.
What they think is fine for their own lives. You don't get to dictate other people's medical decisions. Should we all get a panel of nobodies to weigh in with their personal feelings when someone needs an appendectomy or bone marrow transplant? Either women are fully capable adult human beings or they are addled children whose bodies belong to the state. Freedom or slavery -- pick one.
zammmerjammer don't think that's a very good argument to be honest. A tiny percentage of terminations occur due to rape/abnormalities. Majority take place due to unplanned pregnancies with no health issues whatsoever. I feel the baby has a right and choice to live too. I know we don't have capability of changing each other's minds, just voicing my opinion about an unfair documentary in my view.
+Roxanne Carey Your responding to what, exactly? The voices in your head? It's funny you respond with "don't think that's a very good argument" while just repeating random anti-choice talking points and not addressing my argument whatsoever. I didn't mention anyting about "rape/abnormalities." I argued that women do not suddenly become slaves when they become pregnant, nor do they suddenly become incompetent to make their own decisions. Either women need all of their medical decisions approved by the state because they are simple-minded children who can't be trusted to make adult choices, or they're not. It's one or the other.
Because anti-choicers are all liars using gory pictures of NATURAL MISCARRIAGES, not abortions. Truth is abortions don't provide much to photograph. Liars using photos of family tragedies to support abrogating women's basic rights and provoke reactions because they know they have no real basis for their position -- yeah, that's pretty distressing.
zammmerjammer there are literal boxes of baby guts in planned parenthood labs, pics of crushed and sucked out baby bodies straight after abortion. I am not christian, but cmon, abortion is horrible
+J Bast There are literally none of those things. The vast majority of abortions are not D&Cs but are from abortifacient drugs -- meaning the woman takes the pills and LEAVES. Thus the abortion doesn't even take place at the clinic. Any fetuses being removed late enough in the pregnancy to be at all recognizable as anything other than some clumps of clotted blood are because the fetus was either dead already or had serious congenital defects. Abortion is only "horrible" when it is done in a back alley with a coat hanger. When done in a medical facility under supervision it is a medical procedure like any other. Or I suppose you think colonscopies are horrible and freak out when over the LITERAL intestinal polyps that get removed?
Your body, your choice; too bad the fetus isn't a part of your body, so you shouldn't have a choice over the fetus. The fetus, scientifically is already an individual and not an extension of yourself.
A woman has choice over a foetus because the foetus is leeching off the mother's nutrients. In the case of an unwanted pregnancy, the foetus leeches off the woman's nutrients without her consent and against her will, meaning the foetus is breaching the mother's bodily autonomy rights. thus, she has every right to remove the fetus from her body.
if you don't wanna a baby or another child, then for GOD's sake use appropriate easy methods available to you and/or your partner, and avoid the terrible indecisions after you become pregnant (barring incest,rape or abnormal and tortured abnormalities) then please plan ahead plan ahead plan ahead X 1000
Im only pro life if the baby is healthy and wasnt concieved by rape. I feel like it is still a life and that the child should be given a chance at life and can grow up with a family that may not be able to have children and will love them. So Im not sure Im pro life or pro abortion after watching this. 😕
Maybe more in the direction of informed choice then? So the women absolutly has the choice to go through with an abortion but maybe have a conversation/counselling session with a professional beforehand.
@3:15 You go girl There not worth my time and effort! 2nd that idea, being a atheist from Boston, That Stuff never happen in New England especially not New Hampshire!
I completely cringed. This is so biased and in favor of prochoice, purely selecting to record narrowminded defenders of the 8th amendment, the dont represent the population who condemn abortion. At least let viewers know where you stand before they are exposed to overly devote catholics. The reasons they provided shown in this video are appalling. Our country is divided and there are arrogant & ignorant people on both sides. You just chose to show those of the prolife here. Have a bit of respect.
"Have you ever been pregnant?"
"Nope"
*Awkward stare and silence*
do you hve to experience pregnancy to know killing an unborn baby is wrong?? id say shes a very wize young lady
Lol
It doesn't matter who you are or what you have personally experienced. The ideas should be judged on their own merit.
@@redmercury1159 "i would like to see if those pro-life supporters are willing to help economically women who are forced to have babies with severe disabilities with medical procedures and expensive treatment....or if they are even willing to help homeless children in the streets....they are just pro-birth, not pro-life." Quoting a comment on here.
With that being said, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS.
@@redmercury1159 A fertilized egg/embryo is not a "baby".
i would like to see if those pro-life supporters are willing to help economically women who are forced to have babies with severe disabilities with medical procedures and expensive treatment....or if they are even willing to help homeless children in the streets....they are just pro-birth, not pro-life.
They are mainly just doing what their religion tells them to do and are primarily not very well educated. When they attempt to give scientific narratives to support their agenda, it is almost exclusively regurgitated from other sources. But, such is the world of debate.
@@Player_Review murder is murder, for me it is not about religion, but fucking facts!
julio chino PREACHHH
i get so tired of this argument. these women couldve given these children up for adoption. and what if they wanted to keep the baby regardless of their financial situation?? what if they are happy with their decision? do you believe in taking away a womans right to have a child simply because her finances arent pristine?? and what if she never becomes financially straight...do you think she should never have the right to bare children?? people have been having babies since the beginning of time regardless of their finances. some of the happiest people are some of the poorest. because they have families
@@christineb1989 The fucking fact is that abortion is not murder. A fetus cannot feel pain. A fetus cannot live unsupported by the mother. It's a part of the mother
I'm pro-keeping my nose out of other people's lives and applying my beliefs and morals to my own business.
A M no. But woman deciding that she's not ready to take care of a child for whatever reason is not the same as keeping someone against their will to work without pay. Comparing the two is a very absurd and ignorant thing to do. Not harassing a woman because she wants to make her own decisions on something that my personal beliefs don't want to divulge in, is not the same as actively standing by and allowing people to be hurt and discriminated against. There is no baby if the woman does not wish to have one. They are one until the child has left the womb and to bring a child into the world in the knowledge that you would not properly care for it is far more irresponsible.
A M I think when it comes to morals you must ask yourself, "Are these moral beliefs really benefiting the subject, or are they benefiting my own conscience and self." Moral, ethical treatment of animals is valid because animals can experience pain and suffering. Moral treatment of a foetus is different because it depends on your personal beliefs and how they tie in to your view of the foetus. Personally, I have no religion so i feel no one owns your body but you. And is it not morally wrong to actively deny and prevent vulnerable and usually young women from preventing the birth of a child that would only suffer due to the care she knew she was not able to provide?
That is like saying I don’t like slavery but I will keep my head out of it. 🤦🏼♂️
meanwhile our population keeps getting smaller and smaller.
@@redmercury1159 Your point?
IF. YOU. WANT. LESS. ABORTION.
CAMPAIGN. FOR. MORE. USE . OF. CONTRACEPTION.
like seriously catholics go on about how ppl shouldnt use contraception, then get angry when people accidentally get pregnant.
because they don't even care about the babies or the pregnancies, they just want control over other people's bodies. that's why they can be both anti-contraception and anti-abortion.
I’m sorry, I’m not saying that I know anything about this topic, but you don’t seem like you do either. It says so in the Bible, the Bible is gods word, Christians and Catholics believe in god. These people have honestly explained their point ever so poorly, but what they mean is mainly that if you have sex you should be prepared to have a baby, since it’s gods will and choice on wether you do get a baby (keeping in mind that these people whole heartedly trust in god and believe in god) that’s why they are both anti contraception AND anti abortion. I doubt that you actually do, but if you do actually care about this, feel free to ask me for my contact information. Sorry if I offended you, I just felt like sharing some of my own truths, even if they might not align with yours.
I'm glad they spoke with people who actually have experience with abortions. All the idiots in the comments seem to think they should have asked more people like that bible grandfather who will never carry a child.
Jake shut up pro birther
Sorry do I know you
No
Can you stop filming me
Iconic
I don't understand why people want to control other people's pregnancies, your family is nobody's business but your own.
Thats like saying i dont understand why charity's help other people... Because they are trying to protect another human being whos not even getting the chance at life. Arent we lucky we were giving that who are we to take that away from a unborn child
@@djfhfh An embryo is not an unborn child.
@@crand20033 in your opinion. It is in mines there would be no children if there were no embryos.. We all were at one stage
Well the thing is love that the baby isn’t yours it’s it’s own person who can’t say that it wants to live
@@joshuamcilwrath6476 do you think any child wud say yes tear me limb from limb that's what I want dont be stupid.. Love
Do you know how many of those wee babes remain unadopted and stay in those homes?
Some of these women are sometimes too young to take care of a child or simply cannot afford to raise another child. do you know how difficult it is to raise a child with severe disabilities? What happens to that child when the parents are gone or too old to take care of it?
These women do not hate children, many want to have children, but sometimes the time isn't right or they cannot handle the burden of one.
Would you rather a girl throw herself repeated of the stairs or punch herself into a miscarriage? Go to somewhere unlicensed and end up with a life-threathening infection? Dumping the unwanted child at someone's door or in a dumpster?
Yes sometimes the mother will in turn love the child, but in many rape cases the mother does not, and mistreats and abuses the child, because she's unwilling to love the child, because it's an extension of her rapist.
People need to keep their personal feelings out of the choice of others, specially men. Religion has no place in this. So far religions are losing followers because it only pushes away people, people that need help, but it won't support them and people are appalled by it. You can still be religious and be pro-choice.
Exactly! well said. The average person never stops to think about how shit a life it will be FOR THE CHILD if they are born in circumstances when they are not wanted, severely disabled or where they are born into a family with not enough money to support them growing up and following their interests. Others will be born into families who already have too many children and therefore never get enough time and attention for their mental well being.
Many times women choose for the right reasons - for the sake of the child. Maybe they have had an abusive childhood themselves and they know that with one more child they might snap and treat all their children abusively and damage them because they just cannot cope anymore with extra responsibility. There is more to the story that plain black and white! Not only that these religious folk dont realise that without abortion our planet would have went under decades ago considering we are overpopulated as it is
You're totally right, we should just murder the innocent child (note sarcasm)
@@jamieangel3766 Selfish, you just want justification.... that child should be given a chance. Everyone that is born had a 1 and 4 trillion chance of being born , we are all special and should be given a chance. Some of the most amazing people are from those who came from hard times and deified the odds
Maybe they shouldn’t be having sex if they can’t raise a child? Use birth control? Why should they be allowed to keep getting pregnant because they sleep around just to kill a baby? I agree with choice. But under the right circumstances. Rape, ill health of mother or child, and never after 12 weeks.
wrong. a newborn baby will automatically be adopted out. there is no wait for the babies. now if youre adopting a newborn, you could wait upwards of more than 5 years to finally take a baby home.
its the mother's decision, not the county's. if she wants an abortion, she will get that abortion. if she regrets it, she regrets it, if she's happy with it, she's happy with it! the mother does not need your opinion in this decision, i hope everyone knows that.
@@jms855 amen
Call it what it is...murder. plan and simple!
Jenni-Lee Silver PREACH!
@Shaun Parkinson lol k fuck them fetuses
@@jms855 please shut the fuck up
Im gonna be honest I kinda cringed when I saw people bringing their religious beliefs into the argument , one guy said " our bodies are not our own, our bodies are the temple of the holy spirit " & then another with rosary beads , if you re trying to get younger people on the fence to side with your argument , bringing your personal religious beliefs into it isn,t the way to win over undecided people .
Kira 82 maybe he's less interested in making his argument easily digestible than he is about telling you the way he really thinks about it.
He says "our" bodies, but he really means "your" bodies. We all know if men got pregnant, abortions would be available at the drive-thru.
Kira I Am Justice GOD IS your CREator.
Kira I Am Justice just because you don’t have personal religion in your life There is no need to find other peoples uncomfortable
+Serious Health Situations God is leukemia's creator too. God is malaria's creator. God is spina bifida's creator.
What's your point?
carla is so lovely, well mannered and intelligent right now...when she grows up shes going to be an absolute stunner.
My heart goes out to the people who talked about their pain of having their babies die inside of them.
I got pregnant on the Norplant contraception back in '96. I was told if I went ahead with the pregnancy then my baby would be born without arms, legs, eyes, or possibly half of a brain or even no head. I was totally against abortions until I sat in that chair at that moment, it wasn't about me but that child. I didn't have to choose because I miscarried at almost 3 months and had to have a D&C, but I've though about that baby often. Had I carried to full term she would have had a horrendous life if she'd lived, and the health problems along with the deformities would have given her a life filled with unbearable pain. Who am I to sentence anyone to a life like that? I still don't agree with abortions just because you don't want a baby, or some asinine reason like that, but for the sake of the baby's life or that of the mother there shouldn't be an issue with having an abortion. I've now got 3 beautiful children, but I'm a mom of 4, Riley was a life and she was here, even if only for a few weeks under my heart❤️
Sorry for your loss and thanks for sharing your perspective.
Your baby was going to take after you with the half a brain thing.
Hugh Mungus - On a serious note, only a few people are recorded as having half a brain, they've found that when one side is damaged the other side can actually adapt to handle the functions of the other side and you basically have full functionality without loss of the functions of the damaged/missing side of the brain.
Pretty sure when you posted your comment you were hoping for this kind of reply and weren't actually trolling.
John Colby I was married, 4 and a half years actually, and we already had one child. We didn’t want to have one right after another
John Colby and like a lot of trolls today, you're uneducated and probably living in squalor. I've been married for 26 years with 3 healthy children and 2 babies that sadly didn't survive because of this horrid birth control. I've also got scars all down my arm because when they put it in it moved down to my elbow, there were 5 little tubes that they had to dig for. So I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be lying about...unless it's the fact that I'm married and you're alone and bitter, but chin up....I'm sure you'll find a person that'll troll YT with you one day. Stop being a bloody dolt and go to school
Abortion should be the decision of the woman (and man, if applicable). It's nobody else's business. To men who are pro life- no problem, make sure you don't get any woman pregnant. To women who are pro life- no problem, make sure you don't get pregnant. Otherwise mind your own business.
Normalising murder is the business of everybody.
The legalization of abortion has brought down criminality SIGNIFICANTLY
Anna Baumann that doesn’t have any correlation
@Tubartol, there absolutely is a correlation.
I would feel more prone to listen to a woman who've had children, risky pregnancies and not an easy life raising them being pro-life than a guy saying that a woman's body is not their own.
It's ridiculous not to let a woman abort when the foetus is not viable! I wonder how those "pro-lifers" defend that...
What about a guy who has had children and has not had an easy life raising them? Would you be prone to listen to him being pro-life? Would you be against abortion when the fetus is viable?
Michelle Leung . I had 3 children. And then I found out I was pregnant with my 4 child. I was going through a court battle over my father's estate. I had 3 young children. Plus, I had health issues. Heart failure and had a pacemaker. But I never thought about abortion. Not once. I coundnt do it. I just coundnt live with myself. My daughter is now 17 years old❤❤❤
It breaks my heart that these poor women have to flee thier country like a criminal to do something so heartbreaking! They should have doctors! Thier family's! Thier home town for something so strong and sad! Because haveing in abortion is not something easy! So if a women decides to have one let them!!!
"It breaks my heart that these poor women have to flee thier country like a criminal to do something so heartbreaking!"
They had to flee their country "like a criminal" because they were.
"Because haveing in abortion is not something easy!"
Most murderers don't find murdering initially to be easy except if they have some antisocial personnality disorder like psychopathy. The fact that it may or may not be easy/convenient has no bearing on whether murderers should be persecuted and prosecuted.
"So if a women decides to have one let them!!!"
Your rhetoric is underwhelming & your reasoning seems absent.
@@emilefrenette9325 I don’t know if you are a guy or a girl but at the end of the day it does not matter. It’s their bodies and they should have absolute control of their bodies. I hope you are never in a situation where you need to have an abortion. You speak so evil of the women who had to face the horrors of having one. There are true monsters upon us. People that think like you with the authority to choose over someone else disgust me. Deal with your body and let others be
Religion, the root of all evil, the root of all ignorance. As a person that went through exactly what that one mom went through I can't imagine having to wait for my baby to eventually die in the womb. So unfair and disrespectful to both her and her baby. Much love to anyone that has had to go through such awful circumstances.
I am so so so incredibly sorry to hear that you had to go through something so terrible. I can’t even imagine what it must be like. I am in no place to tell you what’s wrong or what’s right, no one but you is. I just wanted to say that the same way you don’t see the appeal in religion, religious people might not see the appeal in your beliefs. I’m sorry, I just think it’s quite unnecessary to spread more hate, but I really see where you’re coming from. But humans only know the best that we know. We don’t know anymore. For some that’s god. I’m sending you love, I wish you all the best and I will pray for you. (I hope you don’t mind, like I said, it’s the best that I know) God bless. I hope I didn’t offend you in any way, shape or form.
Miss Totos FU-K religion!!!!!! it is full of hate not love
Islam is quite horrible.
We are all free to have our own beliefs. But in a secular country you cannot limit people's rights based on religious dogmas. If you are against abortion because of your religion, just choose to not do one.
If in your mind your God do not approve gay marriage, that's fine. But don't even think that you can decide the faith of the entire society based on an entity whose rules seems to vary through time and space.
That guy seriously said "our body" to a strange woman?? 😂
This hypocricy- I bet he would never even consider a vasectomy.
It's not about the woman or any unborn child, he's claiming power over her in the name of religion.
I am pro choice as it breaks my heart to see women having to have a child that was a result of rape or like that one lady who was told the baby wouldn't survive anyways. or what if the baby won't be born healthy? I agree that abortions shouldn't be later than 12 weeks and not used lightly cause some women are too lazy to get contraception.. so it depends on the case.
12 weeks? You realize that many serious defects aren't detectable at 12 weeks? How about we leave medical decisions up to the patient involved and their doctors?
zammmerjammer actually a lot of things are detected at the 12 week scan... and as I previously said I am pro choice. So if there is something really wrong with the baby and they find out later then I think it's 100% for the mother to choose what she wants to do under those circumstances.
You said you were "pro-choice" but only up until 12 weeks. And then you walked it back. It's up to the woman to choose.
zammmerjammer up to 12 weeks if everything is ok with the baby. I was talking about women who don't care and use it as a type of contraception. If the baby is healthy and nothing wrong with it let's say at 25 weeks then yes I do think it's wrong to just have an abortion at that time. So as I said it always depends on the circumstances.
No women "use it as a type of contraception." That's just not a thing that happens. Women may use it when contraception fails. I know of a woman who had an IUD inserted but it came out, unbeknownst to her, and she chose to abort the ensuing pregnancy.
Update on this, we voted yes to abortion rights!
Congratulations 👍🏼
@@Raaazzle nope it’s bad
" *KEEP YOUR ROSARIES OFF MY OVARIES* "
WOW
This made me laugh 😂
Abortion is always murder❗
It is a very big sin.
Please don't do it if you are in the position to do it.
It is taking someone's life!!
If you don't want the child, give it away for adoption.
Don't tell people what to do
@@electroskates2434 That 's my choice, not yours, mind your own business.
If people get murdered by abortion I tell it on platforms like this.
Maybe there will be lives saved if some pregnant mothers do realise what they are planning to do.
@@YoYo-bb4nh You should mind your own business when you tell people not to get abortions
@@electroskates2434 It's not my business, I am coming up for unborn life.
They can't talk.
@@YoYo-bb4nh obviously
This is still highly accurate and a problem in Ireland. The extreme Pro-Life people there frown upon abortion because of religion, from my experiences. The religion and whole heartedness of Ireland are closely tied, and while I love this part of the people here...Unfortunately its hard to keep a cushion of joyous banter when a man is telling women what they can and cannot do with their body.
Carla is proof that children are much wiser and more intuitive than we sometimes give them credit for.
I always see older generations arguing on belhaf of the pro-lifers most, if not, all of the time. It's the same way here in the USA. I'm so proud of my mother, who is 72. Shes a veteran of 34 years (many of those years in medicine) and doesn't think she has a right to decide what other women do with their bodies. I was raised always having the freedom to make my own moral decisions but I would never sleep with someone I didn't love enough to raise a child with. Personally, I would never push a significant other to get an abortion, other than for necessary medical reasons. However, I let others make their own decisions and live their own lives. When it comes to all that religious shenanigans, I grew up in church and was once a youth leader. I'd rather religion not be a factor in whether or not someone has the right to live in one way or another. Live and let live. Cheers
How about having protected sex ? abortion is CRIME . PERIOD !!!!
I have been pregnant 5 times. I lost my first to miscarriage. Only 1 was planned. The other 4 were happy surprises. I had sex. I accept the consequences of my actions and inactions. Whatever happens to me happens for a reason. I will never take it out on a defenseless being.
My little sister would not be able to survive giving birth, do you expect her to carry a child while knowing that she and most likely the baby would die?
Abortion is none of my business and none of yours either
I'm so happy they repealed the laws
“Our bodies are not of our own. It is the temple of the Holy Spirit.” I’m sorry but I really believe this is my body and not some “spirits”. Also I’m kinda on the gray line when comes to this. I believe women should have a choice in the matter especially if it’s rape or if the child has to manny deformities to the point the child will have no quality of life. This also goes if the child would kill the mother. But I believe every thing should be in moderation. Unfortunately I’ve seen other documentaries about this from other countries and some kill the child only because they are a girl. I am not ok with that at all or if they were stupid and did not use protection like teenage moms and they just get rid of the child like it’s nothing. That is where I draw the line.
I am from Ireland. Small update on all this watching. Abortion is now legal to any woman who believes it is necessary for them whether they have been raped, the baby has died in the womb or have made a wrong choice with a partner. I am pro choice and can say Ireland’s laws are finally moving away from the Catholic Church for the better.
No for the worse
It is not an abortion if the child has already died in the womb!
I’ve had two abortions at early stages I’m so glad I live in uk and not country where abortions illegal I could of died from going to a backyard abortionist or had to,go through childbirth and then give children up for adoption
So you're the mother of 2 dead children. They were alive within you and you ended it for them. Congratulations.
@@cscs3557 you have no idea what the circumstances around her decision were. How dare you try to shame for something that she chose for herself and herself only.
Why did you have the abortions? Just because it was inconvenient and you didn’t bother to protect yourself? Or because of medical reasons? Being so calm when talking about killing a baby? That’s wrong.
Did you just get pregnant by accident? Twice? if so Going throught childbirth and giving the babies up was the one thing you could have done for him or her. If its the case that you just got pregnant and didnt mean too then maybe after two times you shouldnt be sleeping with anyone untill your grown up enought to understand sex can result in pregnancy. Abortion isnt birth control
@@djfhfh again, you have no idea what the circumstances surrounding her decisions were. A woman should not be forced to carry out a pregnancy of a nonviable fetus or to remain in a condition that would kill her. You have absolutely no right to question her
This documentary is very one sided.
Is indeed
You cannot afford an abortion but you wanted the child to live? What were you gonna feed the baby if it had been born healthy?
At the very least they should allow women to have abortions if their children won't survive into birth anyways. It would save both of them huge amounts of suffering. And reducing the number of unwanted children born into the world, even if you disregard the moral issue of killing the baby, would be beneficial to society as a whole! People always fail to think about those parts of the issue.
Not for cases like defected fetus but in a normal pregnancy who wants abortion should not be allowed because they could have just used a contraceptive or condom but instead they will end a life to get out of their mistake.
Sam St Amant you realize a condom is not full proof right? It can be tampered with or its a case of rape. If it’s tampered with then the man will be forced to pay for years for something he did not mean to do in the slightest. If it’s rape the women will have to pay for years constantly being reminded of it because of something outside their control. And why should something that does not even know it’s alive have the same rights as someone contributing to society?
The one thing I can’t handle is protesters asking kids what they think of abortion
As a religious person, I obviously have to share my two cents and also share my truth. I think what everyone seems to miss is that it boils down to what you believe in. If you whole heartedly believe in god, you aren’t afraid of any hardship (which isn’t possible because unlike god, we are not perfect. Plus fear is not of god). Say you get pregnant and at the time you didn’t feel like sex was that serious, so you didn’t think that to have sex you need to be ready for a baby. But if even then, regardless of what is thrown at you, even if you have to fight so very hard and you hate it all, if you stay firm and still trust in god, the that to me is true faith. And I truly believe that with god you can conquer all. I see the points people are making in this comment section, and before I became religious I would’ve completely agreed. I still wish everyone here the best, regardless of beliefs and opinions. If you’ve read this far I hope you have a very nice day and god bless.
That girl spoke out of complete ignorance saying that women don't need abortion because she just knows and because of her religion - shes never even been pregnant but obviously just really wants to be. Thats great for her but doesnt mean the rest of irish women cannot have the 'human right' to her own body. The religious view is so simplistic it does not take into account many many factors of why it is right in some cases to abort.
I hate that abortion exists, I'm a big sinner I had an abortion when I was a teen because I was threatened that if I didnt do it I was gonna pay with my life. Now I'm still here struggling thinking what wouldve been if I never aborted my baby and run away where they couldn't find me. I guess I was such a big coward...and now I'm here not sleeping well I did something so bad and for that I will always live with that regret. If you pregnant and you planning to have an abortion, please don't do it, you will be killing part of you and a life.
If I could go back years I would never abort my baby, I wouldn't be a coward, and if I had to pay with my life for keeping the baby then I wouldve have to. Cause after all I died the day I had that abortion😭
@@lizbear585 I believe in a God of love, forgiveness, and restoration. In time, by His grace, we can even come to forgive ourselves. We are all sinners in need of His grace. May God bless you, keep you, and bring you peace!
i convinced someone to vote to repeal the 8th! one of the best things i ever did i say yes to secularization and no to religious bigotry and bullying
We all know that pro-life people say that abortion is killing, and killing is never accepted. That seems appropriate. But you guys almost forget something, those people who get abortion, they have their own reasons. nobody wants to kill people, what about girls who are raped, then have to give birth to that unwanted child? How can they love and give them the best? How can they stand this child - a painful memory of crime, humiliation and torment?
Or for those who are poor, how can they assure that they will be able to give the child enough food, take care of them and pay their tuition fees? Yet those women cant even be able to take care of themselves, these unwanted children are seen as a burden. They will likely to experience hunger, ignorance on the path of development? Hey pro-life people, do you want that? If you against abortion for the sake of those children, you have to have a broader view.
I support Ireland's law abortion, because when initially someone decides to have sex and give a birth, why she regards later and wants to not give birth. That is why, being charged 14 years is still not enough.
What if one gets raped and doesn't want to relive the nightmare for the rest of their life??
Ronald Reagan - 'I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born'.
@ 10:49 which one is the pregnant one? I can’t figure that one out
Just one point; abortions as such were'nt "illegal" in Ireland, you were just not allowed to terminate a pregnancy within the country. You were allowed to leave the country for the explicit purpose of having an abortion, and the medical professionals were allowed to tell you about such procedures abroad... With that, then the question becomes, why should they have to go abroad?
It will be all sorted out soon enough. People don't even know the right from wrong anymore. The clocks are due a reset big time.
As a Christian, I think people should be allowed to do whatever they want. Their bodies, their life, their choice.
But that is not what Christians believe. If people could do whatever they wanted, Christ's death would have been un-necessary.
That isnt what Christians believe.
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Decision of having a baby or aborting should be an individual decision each women should have a choice for , not under any pressure of anyone. No one else has more right to her womb more than herself!!! - My perspective .
YOUR BODY YOUR RIGHT
Yes! Everyone, no matter what race, what age, what anything!
I have always been in the camp that abortion shouldn’t be done unless the woman or girl had been raped. If not, and your boyfriend or husband is an asshole, that’s not the poor babies fault not. My brother was excited to be a dad but the girl took that away when she got manipulated by her mother and she went behind my brothers back and went to abort. He was gonna have twins too. 😢 such a shame
WE REAPLED THE 8th🙌🎉🎊
It’s terrible
There is a difference between wanting an abortion for medical reasons and wanting an abortion just because you don't want the baby.
probably the Irish will vote to allow it for the tough cases which are rare but keep it illegal for the vast majority of cases. That is, if they are given the choice to do that.
The choice will most likely be abortion up to 12 weeks without any or may restrictions or keep the ammendment as it is and ignore the genuine rare cases it would be needed (mainly serious health concerns to mother or baby)
I don't want to vote yes to either of these
Why can't they just change the law to if the child will suffer in life if born or still in the fetus, then the parents can make the decision about the abortion
All women should get together and vote on pro-choice. It is their body and though it 'takes two to tango', men shouldn't be part of a vote that is about what women can do with their bodies. I'm pro-choice mainly because as a man, it isn't my place to make decisions for women about their bodies. Having a choice is a freedom and freedom is good.
Player Review but when the man has to pay and support them for a good portion of their life compared to the nine months of pregnancy they should have a say
First off, it’s not your body. Second off, freedom isn’t good when you use freedom to strip it away from others. Like killing unborn babies
@@NocturnalNugget2 I wouldn't compare literal child birth to writing a check for 18 years
@@mcmechanismsguy it's not 'killing' anything if it cannot survive on it's own
Emily Parker surviving on its own doesn’t constitute whether it’s alive or not. A newborn baby cannot survive on its own
Why can't these young girls & grown women cross the border & have treatment in Ulster since it's part of the UK (unfortunately) ?
Thank you for calling the pro life people pro life and not anti choice, and calling the pro choice people pro choice, and not anti life.
the mother who found out her baby has died in the womb, why is she smiling ????12:45
Because that’s all you can do, when you find out you can’t carry to full term or somethings wrong you can’t just cry, the grief will overtake you and destroy you, finding out the gender so they can memorialise the child they weren’t able to have disproves your accusation of her apparently “smiling about her child being dead”
@@Alt__Amy what accusation? Defensive much ?
Amrita well were you not inferring within your comment that she was smiling over the death of her baby for malicious reasons?
AltAmy looks like you are doing all the inferring here.
Amrita seems you don’t actually know how to use the words you’re throwing around
A Responsibility is the key. An unborn baby should not answer for mistakes of parents...a baby killed without pain relief the most barbaric ways, by middle Age punishment for criminals 💔 only because his biological parents are irresponsible and selfish 💔
Ireland passed the abortion law
No one should be pro-life. The only thing we should logically be arguing about is the circumstances under which abortion should be done.
more than 90% of all abortions are done as a convenience to the mother. not because of health reasons or rape.
Well im 100% against abortion if a woman lay down with a man who she wanted too and got pregnant. But i think abortions should be offered in certain circumstances. If you really cannot get pregnant really dont want a baby dont sleep with someone simple really
@@djfhfh AMEN SISTER EMMA! its funny how the first thing a pro choice person says is "so you dont think that a woman who has just been raped should be afforded the rights to have an abortion??!!" this is always their argument. like we're stupid. no, do you not realize that the number of women having abortions because of rape is about 1% of all abortion cases???!!! forget arguing for the most obvious and biggest reason women have abortions being because of convenience!! no no no lets ignore that elephant in the room and maybe everyone else will too. like we're fucking stupid. they arent pro choice. they are pro abortion. i dont see them offering these women other choices. i see them as abortion peddlers. choice has nothing to do with it. a womans body has nothing to do with it. its all about convenience. nobody cares about these women. when are they going to wake up and realize it! your comment was AWESOME!
@@redmercury1159 yes abortion is NOT a form of birth control i watched a documentary last night which a pro choice girl said its not even a baby its a collection of cells... Every human being on this earth started off the same way difference is we were giving the chance to grow into who we are today all they talk about is their rights their rights.. What about the person that little collection of cells will become.. Weres their right. Why do you get the right to be born and experience life in all its heartaches and joys and that little thing doesnt. They say its not a baby yet but something has started a life has begun.. I was actually pro choice until i became pregnant myself and went to my first scan and seen my tinyy tinyy little baby moving around.. He is now a very happy healthy little boy and the joy of my life ♥
@@djfhfh YES MA'AM miss Emma! its time to stop messing around and call it what it is! women should know that if they decide to have an abortion, they have bought into the lie that the mainstream media has fed them. not biology class! not anatomy!! not chemistry!! you have literally allowed yourself to be manipulated by a person inside your television screen. you have allowed fanatic feminists to brainwash you into thinking you arent signing your babys death warrant the minute you hand over the cash. its just a clump of cells.....abortion clinics dont perform abortions until about 6 weeks into your pregnancy...look up a 6 week old fetus and tell me if it looks like just clump of cells. i hate it when they call the baby that. its the weakest argument i have ever heard but its the only one they use!!
Everyone should have the freedom to abortion. I'm not saying that it is right to do so, but we don't know the story behind the people who decides to get it.
I’m pro life, cry about it
Not unless you're annoying about it
I really like this channel and all the journalists but this woman kinda seemed pre judged, I like it when reporters bring an objective point of view
Nearly 5 million people live in Ireland, and only 2 million voted and the Yes campaign won with just over a million. So 3 million paddies could not be bothered to leave the PUB.
I'm not pro life or pro choice, i base my opinions on the circumstances that the people are in
Im from Tanzania, an East African country. Abortion is illegal here with exception of Rape, Malformed baby, and if the pregnancy is a danger to the mother's health.
Shrines are intimidating, you heard it here first XD
Soo apart from rape victims or specfic cases where medically there are complications in pregnancy . Why are these women having unprotected sex if the babies are unwanted? And where are the men some of these women hvin sex wit? Ur traveling to another country hv an abortion where is the other party who is responsible for this?
This video was so bias towards the Pro-Abortion side. Why does all media have to be so Liberal.
i just cant bealive this is it europw or africa ???
Europe.
Ireland is like the US south, religious and poor?
allgoo19 Texas no poor state
Nosavez says:
"Texas no poor state"
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I didn't even name which states.
You are so sensitive about it.
Let me put it this way,
Oil rich Middle Eastern countries look rich by GDP but if you take out the oil revenue, they all are about the same as average African countries.
Did you know this?
I suppose you are a Texan?
I should have said. "religious, uneducated and poor."
lol
Ireland is definitely not poor, and in spite of what was shown in this documentary, it's barely religious, too. There are still some very conservative Catholics around, but the country is becoming secular very quickly.
Skylight K says:
"There are still some very conservative Catholics around, but the country is becoming secular very quickly."
"Ireland is definitely not poor, and in spite of what was shown in this documentary"
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I'm not so convinced until you show the proof.
Potato famines followed by mass migration to US would have never happened
"Nearly 140,000 children living in consistent poverty"
www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/nearly-140-000-children-living-in-consistent-poverty-1.2445159
That's just as bad as US South.
Potato famines...? What do the potato famines (that happened hundreds of years ago) have to do with the current economy? Ireland is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, based on the GDP - currently in the 7th place:
www.businessinsider.com/the-richest-countries-in-the-world-2017-3/#30-japan-gdp-per-capita-38893-31732-1
www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/richest-countries-in-the-world?page=12
Abortion is murder. Once another body is inside yours it is no longer YOUR choice.
What would be CHOICE would be to choose to use contraception or choose to not have sex unless you want a child.
*sigh* guh.. this encounter ~@3:00 mark, to me as an American, revels polar opposite, results via the old man in a sense.
Hear me out!
BeCAUSE: imagine the Lad, instead, as a female millennial, supporting EITHER side of this.... "issue"...
Hear me out
Woman 1 asks hypothetical Woman 2 to stop filming her (POLITELY, mind you;) and WITH manners.... I mean, we 💯% heard a, "please"-- maybe even a "Thank you."
Now (listen) us as Americans would >75% expect and scream/shout/wail/cry/proclaim loudly for all to hear, "THIS IS A PUBLIC PARK, I can film w/e, whom ever I WANT! (Your presence here equals consent to a risk of being shot/filmed)
🥴
Guh
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I miss Ireland, I embarked on a Trafalgar tour once throughout the UK ONCE ~'05, '06. I was a month shy of turning 16. Thought Dublin, the highlight of Ireland imo was gnar as shit. Strolling the sidewalks was a vibe I'd never experienced before, and hagus.... not on my top ten favorite foods list✌️✌️
BUT; this Capital was maxed out in pride for country, pride and pubs😆
Leave the children alone,
To world peace,
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You know what's crazy, I was supposedly supposed to be born severely disabled with a disorder called Trisomy 18 which consequently would have meant I would have been born severely deformed etc and the doctors could've sworn without a doubt by doing ultrasounds that I would be born with deformities etc etc but when I was born they took me right away and did a detailed examination on me and said I was fine and here I am 15 years later, but the funny thing is is that the doctors told my parents that they might wanna consider just going ahead and getting an abortion cuz I'd be born so messed up but here I am making this comment right now 15 years later, crazy right.
So much suffering that could have been avoided just because some people's beliefs and ideologies just ignore real world problems.
smh Gonna force people to have babies they don't want. They're gonna abuse that unwanted child. The child is gonna grow up wishing they actually did get aborted.
I was conceived in rape, I'm here and so glad to be alive. You don't speak for me!
This is a completely biased documentation for the pro choice side. Unfair representation of the pro life side.
How so? By showing women as people? Yeah, it's harder to be anti-choice if you consider women to be people, isn't it?
zammmerjammer as a woman myself who is pro life, I found that pro life campaigners didn't get enough say in this video and didn't get the chance to fully explain their reasons behind their views. Didn't hear much pro life women speak in this video at all. All they showed was men speak from a religious angle which isn't the main reason why people are against abortion. It is clear to see whether you are for/against, it is a biased documentary. Most air time went to pro choice.
What they think is fine for their own lives. You don't get to dictate other people's medical decisions. Should we all get a panel of nobodies to weigh in with their personal feelings when someone needs an appendectomy or bone marrow transplant? Either women are fully capable adult human beings or they are addled children whose bodies belong to the state. Freedom or slavery -- pick one.
zammmerjammer don't think that's a very good argument to be honest. A tiny percentage of terminations occur due to rape/abnormalities. Majority take place due to unplanned pregnancies with no health issues whatsoever. I feel the baby has a right and choice to live too. I know we don't have capability of changing each other's minds, just voicing my opinion about an unfair documentary in my view.
+Roxanne Carey Your responding to what, exactly? The voices in your head? It's funny you respond with "don't think that's a very good argument" while just repeating random anti-choice talking points and not addressing my argument whatsoever. I didn't mention anyting about "rape/abnormalities." I argued that women do not suddenly become slaves when they become pregnant, nor do they suddenly become incompetent to make their own decisions. Either women need all of their medical decisions approved by the state because they are simple-minded children who can't be trusted to make adult choices, or they're not.
It's one or the other.
I honestly see both sides of this debate
Some viewers may find these images distressing, I wonder why?
The Nazis for Jesus innit?
Because anti-choicers are all liars using gory pictures of NATURAL MISCARRIAGES, not abortions. Truth is abortions don't provide much to photograph. Liars using photos of family tragedies to support abrogating women's basic rights and provoke reactions because they know they have no real basis for their position -- yeah, that's pretty distressing.
zammmerjammer there are literal boxes of baby guts in planned parenthood labs, pics of crushed and sucked out baby bodies straight after abortion. I am not christian, but cmon, abortion is horrible
+J Bast There are literally none of those things. The vast majority of abortions are not D&Cs but are from abortifacient drugs -- meaning the woman takes the pills and LEAVES. Thus the abortion doesn't even take place at the clinic. Any fetuses being removed late enough in the pregnancy to be at all recognizable as anything other than some clumps of clotted blood are because the fetus was either dead already or had serious congenital defects. Abortion is only "horrible" when it is done in a back alley with a coat hanger. When done in a medical facility under supervision it is a medical procedure like any other. Or I suppose you think colonscopies are horrible and freak out when over the LITERAL intestinal polyps that get removed?
Your body, your choice; too bad the fetus isn't a part of your body, so you shouldn't have a choice over the fetus. The fetus, scientifically is already an individual and not an extension of yourself.
What nonsense. How is the fetus not part of a woman's body when it relies on the woman's body for ITS VERY EXISTENCE?
Stupid.
zammmerjammer such an idiot!
+Serious Health Situations Yes, you are rather.
A woman has choice over a foetus because the foetus is leeching off the mother's nutrients. In the case of an unwanted pregnancy, the foetus leeches off the woman's nutrients without her consent and against her will, meaning the foetus is breaching the mother's bodily autonomy rights. thus, she has every right to remove the fetus from her body.
So if i rip it off of MY blood supply it will continue to live and thrive independently? Didn’t think so.
Ugh, I live in ireland and this contry is falling apart!
Really? In what way? Prior to this pandemic, I was thinking of finding work in Ireland.
#RepealThe8th
18:28 I love how he basically admits that his sole purpose of being there is to _torment_ them smh
I believe that the Mothers health is only time abortion is ok.
if you don't wanna a baby or another child, then for GOD's sake use appropriate easy methods available to you and/or your partner, and avoid the terrible indecisions after you become pregnant (barring incest,rape or abnormal and tortured abnormalities) then please plan ahead plan ahead plan ahead X 1000
Im only pro life if the baby is healthy and wasnt concieved by rape. I feel like it is still a life and that the child should be given a chance at life and can grow up with a family that may not be able to have children and will love them. So Im not sure Im pro life or pro abortion after watching this. 😕
Maybe more in the direction of informed choice then? So the women absolutly has the choice to go through with an abortion but maybe have a conversation/counselling session with a professional beforehand.
**Grabs Popcorn**
apart from abortion, I noticed some sort of obesity!!!
“Keep your rosary off my ovary” yech!! Ireland is doomed
Bruce neu
yes but some people try to learn by his or her mistakes ,and havnt all killed their unborn son or daughter
Now its Alabama and soon Canada.
@3:15 You go girl There not worth my time and effort! 2nd that idea, being a atheist from Boston, That Stuff never happen in New England especially not New Hampshire!
This is insane!
I notice you have a lot of children here compared to the other side 😂😂😂
Yup.
I completely cringed. This is so biased and in favor of prochoice, purely selecting to record narrowminded defenders of the 8th amendment, the dont represent the population who condemn abortion. At least let viewers know where you stand before they are exposed to overly devote catholics. The reasons they provided shown in this video are appalling. Our country is divided and there are arrogant & ignorant people on both sides. You just chose to show those of the prolife here. Have a bit of respect.