5 BEST Ways to Manage Flatpaks
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Today I talk about the best ways to manage your flatpak collection.
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sudo flatpak override --filesystem=$HOME/.themes
sudo flatpak override --env=GTK_THEME=my-theme
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You can also add "/var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin" to your PATH. After that you can run every flatpka just by running for example "com.brave.Browser"
You are absolutely correct. Flatpak rules. Don't forget the Flatpak system is under constant improvement so perhaps your dislikes may disappear.
Thanks a lot Matt. Using Ubuntu and their snap packages I somehow think that Canonical did all this to their snap, too since everything looks "right at home" and well polished 💪
Flatseal should be integrated into the settings app.
^ This, anything that adds settings controls to your system should integrate there in some smart way that makes it easy to do. Heck, flatpak just needs to work with Distros/DE's to better integrate the theming and other stuff with the systems....it's nice that we can do the overrides, but it shouldn't be the default that you have to do just so things don't look out of place....
It actually is with the latest KDE I've heard.
When you mention aliasing, it might be a great feature if flatpak has a feature where you can alias the long name into whatever you want, of course the packager can decide its default name
Flatpak has a directory "/var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin". Add that to your PATH, and you can start all flatpaks by their application ID. Create a symbolic link to any of these exports in your `/usr/local/share/applications directory, and you can launch it with a short name, e.g. ln -s /var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin/org.gimp/GIMP /usr/local/share/gimp and every user will launch the flatpak with the command "gimp".
I think "flatpak list" is very mess, so i prefer "flatpak list --app"
Ohhh. I didn't know this existed
Just to clarify - from Flatpak docs: "list" show all "applications and runtimes" installed while "--app" just show "applications" installed
I think it should be possible to symlink the flatpaks that you tend to launch from the terminal to ~/bin/, that way you should be able to always run it from the terminal
Here ist my morning routine in Fedora: alias up='sudo dnf update --refresh -y && sudo dnf autoremove -y && flatpak update -y && flatpak uninstall --unused -y'
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I have a script for weekly updates on all my systems, and if Flatpaks are enabled, they're updated. Works pretty well.
I've been using flatpaks for so long and recently I downloaded bottles and I couldn't use my second drive to install things and I was thinking something is wrong with my drives and how I set them up. Then I found out about flatseal and file access permission thanks to you.
Just to clarify that the Flatpak names are not odd at all. They follow a naming convention called "package identifiers" or "reverse domains" which is used by Android for example, too. It's main goal is to uniquely identify two different programs of the same name, which can happen if two developers are working on the same thing independently and pushing them to Flathub. It solves much more problems than it might seem to bring at first. On a side note, in the case of Android, though, Google managed to mess it up with one of their own apps some time recently which led to weird issues on some people's phones. Can't remember which app it was.
For further reference, lookup "Set the application ID" on the Android docs and "Requirements & Conventions" on the Flatpak docs.
Android probably got that from Java. And I HATE this in Java.
I do think this reverse domain ID does make sense for some situations, probably including flatpak (though it's still annoying and often falls flat).
But how Java uses it? Get that horrible thing away from me. They completely separate the package you install (which also has a reverse domain, but that doesnt have to and often isn't identical) from where you get its stuff from. These domains often play very loose with conventions, of they try at all. They lead to lots of noise when it comes to imports, hiding the important thing at the end. Don't get me started on Java imports in general. Fucking up something so complete is very impressive indeed.
yeah, but they are not easy to remember them unless you actually go to the program and search for the name xD clever way to name, just not easy to remember those names on a daily basis
@@onewa712 doesn't make it odd though.
Great video! Super useful for a linux and flatpak beginner!
Have you tried using a symlink or even a hard link with the Themes directory? Maybe that will give the application theme access without you having to manager themes in two places. I’ll try it pretty soon.
With respect to themes, many are available as a flatpak. Installing the flatpak version of your favorite theme is the safest way to theme your flatpak applications
YOu were talking about not being able to download photos and stuff like that-- that you COULDN"T do with the flatpak---- but I've used them since I heard of them long time back and NEVER had any issue like that AT ALL-- ever.. Didn't even know what Flatseal was... and never needed it.. I do have it on my system-- but never needed it-- YET.. and I do everything you talked about with NO issue.
Great video THank you
Yesterday I switched from Ubuntu 22.10 to Fedora38 due to your videos.
Thanks.
some apps (like bottles) had a gtk folder on it's data directory
if you copy the theme you whant to use acording to the gtk vertion that the app uses it will be ok
i was always anti flatpak, but i must admit, that i learned to love it
I've NEVER had an issue with flatpak.. AT ALL. Iv'e run Telegram- and much other stuff-- and NO issues.. I appreciate knowing about FLATSEAL just in case-- THANK YOU for the video..
I made a tool called Flatrun that lets you launch flatpaks from the terminal without the full name. Example: flatrun gimp
Theming is a mess (need to copy all to home foler), command line launch is a mess (needs alias), cli options is a mess (because of alias and access rights)...
But Flatpaks are "great".
IMHO Appimages are much more convenient to use.
It behaves like a normal app, it supports all CLI options, it reads your themes, it has access everywhere I want this app to.
Don't forget, portable with less infrastructure and should keep working well into the future as long as you keep the same architecture, since they package their dependencies with it.
Thanks, Matt, for a great video! It explains a lot of things. I have one problem with Flatpaks that require access to tools "external" for a flatpak container for their functioning. One example is VS Code. I use it together with VSC-Prolog that needs a Prolog installation like SWI-Prolog. When I try to load a Prolog file, it complains "The terminal process failed to launch: Path to shell executable "/usr/bin/swipl" does not exist.", although I have installed Prolog. The same problem occurs with Texmaker. When I installed it via Flatpak, it also installed TeX Live SDK extension, so I can compile most Latex files. But when I try to use the minted package for code highlighting that relies on the Pygments Python package, it complains that it cannot find pygmentize, although it is installed. It would be great if you could make a video tutorial on solving such problems. I am sure that I am not the only one having such issues.
An alternative to `sudo flatpak override --filesystem=$HOME/.themes` is to give this filesystem permission through Flatseal in the All Applications (global) section
And to the `sudo flatpak override --env=GTK_THEME=my-theme` is to add through Flatseal to All Applications, the variable `GTK_THEME=my-theme`
Wow, I learned a lot from this video, thank you!
Topgrade will update the flatpaks too.
very usefull
Great video as always! :)
Why not give read only perms to /usr/share/theme?
wow that was actually useful
Useful, tnx
Flatseal fix my issue when I'm accidentaly force exit flatpak apps from background then the next usage the apps kept force closing
flatpak list works on my fedora 35
I am running into issues in gnome where flatpacks aren't showing up in the app menu or the search menu after installing from the gnome store.
Debian Linux distro
Would it be a good idea to make an alias so that sudo [package manager] update also runs flatpack update, or would you advise keeping the two separate?
I used to do that. So yes that's fine. I use topgrade now.
"flatpak update --assumeyes" is such a life saver... saying "Y" to everything is a pain
So, why not write a small script that runs the output of flatpak list into fzf?
Is there some automatic filtering in the comments? I've posted some tips, but they all disappeared.
NOTHING is perfect--- but appimages and Snaps are CRAPS... they have FAR too many issues and cause more... I've NEVER had an issue with a flatpak-- ever.. and YES, I use Flatseal always... :) GREAT VIDEO.. thank you.
Hold on, I'm confused. My Flatpaks auto update on Fedora 36 Cinnamon. They don't on KDE?
Are you even on KDE? I don't remember. That top bar confuses me.
May be KDE discover tool doesn't have the option to enable auto update flatpak apps. It also doesn't have system update option.
I personally LOVE Flatpak-- easy to get down and use- easy to maintain, run quick- isolated so not speading malware.. and they're just great-- I HATE snaps-- stupidest mess ever made.. and as to Fedora-- I'd NEVEr check Fedora again-- it screwed up my machine both times I tried it.. renumbered my drives so they wouldn't even show up on my original software when I re-installed-- or rather TRIED to-- and lots of OTHER issues pop up with software that I NEVER had a problem with before-- I will NEVER use Fedora ever again.
Interesting I was not a fan b/c I could not start application from terminal
I'm a new Linux Mint user, so if a program isn't already contained in the 'Software Manager' I can't install it. For example, I want to install Gimp 2.8 (an older version) and I've downloaded the flatpak for it to my downloads folder, but I've got no idea how to install it.
How do we install flatpaks that we've already downloaded?
Okay, so I'm just guessing, but I think you just:
flatpak install path/to/file
@@TheLinuxCast I see what you mean, via the terminal? I'll give it a try.
GVM.
Does messing with the flatseal permissions allow Discord to launch then you click a discord link in your browser? Or would you need to setup some browser rule for that? It works when it is already open, but for some reason will not open discord.
I think that has to do with the way flatpaks are named. Firefox/Chrome is looking for an app named Discord, not com.discordapp.Discord or whatever it is. It works when its open because the class name is Discord, not the crap flatpak gives it.
How you did this sys info in terminal ? thanks
It's neofetch. With themes from this repo github.com/chick2d/neofetch-themes
@@TheLinuxCast O yeah thanks 😉
I am a happier user of fedora too.
It is too bad scoop isnt available outside of Windows its far easier than flatpak. Scoop install vlc...and done no weird naming like Linux does
Linux have apt, dnf, zypper to do the same thing and have been doing this far longer. sudo apt install vlc and done. Since 90's
soypacks
symlinking the /usr/share/themes to ./.themes should also work right?
You know I don't know. I'd have to check. You'd think so. I didn't think of it
@@TheLinuxCast Probably not, /usr/share/themes is root:root, you can't override the permissions with a symlink
Just add /usr/share/themes to overrides. It works, idk why the video saying the opposite.
@@mk72v2oq didn't work for me. Which is why i said it.
@@TheLinuxCast I'm now trying to post a proper theming setup, but youtube just keep deleting my comment for no reason. So sadly no luck to answer.
If you're going to alias, why not do the full command line to run the app. Say alias firefox='...' and instead of flat org.foo.bar.baz.firefox you'd just firefox. Although, I don't often start GUI apps from the terminal. Typically I assign shortcut keys for the commonly used applications. For FireFox I used W+F to open it directly, W+C for chromium, W+O for Opera, W+B for Brave, W+K for konsole, W+T for xTerm. You get the idea.
Now if we could have Flatpaks in a systemdevil-free distro I could be a fanboy too.
I use flatpaks in Alpine which doesn't use systemd.
Gtk flatpak’s looked horrible on plasma (Manjaro) until I installed xdg.desktop.portal.gtk and now they look great.