Hey Flex...forget red. Go after that German company! I want a battery-powered track saw with good dust collection that doesn’t cost me a half-year income! ;)
Makita, has a score feature which festool doesn't. Also has a standard blade size and greater cutting depth and also can use the festool track. Get the aws model and you can use it with a wireless dust extractor.
@@maaniek940 eh, I have the versastack and the tough system, basically the same, and the pack out has many more options, larger volume, tighter manufacturing tolerances, better weight limit, and many more third party accessories that change the game.
Well, for me the fact that I can hang the boxes on folding brackets is a deal breaker. I have 6 to 8 boxes stacked up on each rack in my van. Can't imagine having to remove 5 to 7 boxes to get to the bottom one. Shelves won't do it either as occasionally I do need full capacity of the cargo, then I just remove all the boxes, fold brackets and voilà! As to the better specs, I just don't need that, DeWalt boxes are more than good enough for me. All that makes them ideal for me, but I get that for others packout might just work out better. Cheers
Definitely competition is a good thing. Drives up innovation, pricing gets way more competitive, which means more deals and incentives in the long run for the end user for any brands they so love. Can't wait to see what they offer!
As a mechanic Milwaukee is the only one offering a huge amount of special tools. Flex would be interesting, but looks like they are going for the construction side.
I would love to see Flex do a 120v (5x24v) Sliding compound double miter with laser and rear clearance technology to rival Bosch. That would be epic. DeWalt has a 120, but Flex could combine the best of both worlds between Bosch and Dewalt...
You hit the nail square on the head, we need an affordable competitor to Milwaukee's modular pack out system! The 90% of us who don't have $1,000 to drop on a storage system for our tools are begging for it. There's nothing even close to comparable and it's left me scratching my head as to why. Thanks for reading my comment by the way! I know it's a mouth full 😄 but just in case it's ; G-uh-quin-toe but you can call me Aj if you want it makes things a little easier.
Next for flex should definitely be specialty tools. They're gonna want to get as many people on their platform as they can. A rival to pack out would be nice but those won't get the people who need specialty tools to switch.
@@AllTattedUp13 couldn't agree more that's why I don't see myself leaving makita anytime soon. On what other platform can I get an upright vacuum, air compressor, chainsaw, and a coffee maker
How old are you? Do you really want to invest in yet Another Battery platform of tools. It will take years for the new kid on the block to come out with as many different tools as the Big Three/ Four...?
@@gregorylondos534 I've changed platforms before. All you have to do is find an apprentice who needs the tools you've got and sell them to said apprentice, or just part out your existing collection. Might take some time, but not infeasible.
Flex looks good, but unless they come out with 190+ other tools to compete with Makita, Dewalt or Milwaukee I will not be switching. I want a one battery platform. I could care less about having the best individual tool just that each one is good enough.
That's a hill they'll have to climb. There will be 28 tools at launch, with "many more" on the way. But it will still be years before they have lines like the other guys who have been building up their lines for a decade.
I just wish they would come up with a hybrid power solution like Metabo hpt. I get that they obviously want to sell more batteries but let's be honest you don't always need cordless and they could own the market if they would have the option of corded and battery all in one.
Impressive depth of cut if you say that the Milwaukee fuel has a depth of cut two and a half inches the metabol HBT 6.5 would still have a greater cut I have both saws and the 6.5 cuts deeper than my seven and a quarter I'm surprised that this inline saw doesn't have an even deeper cut
They already have a competition to pack out! Sadly it's red and it's sold across the pond. I had high hopes it would make its way here for this launch.
I gotcha. I tried looking for a video and only 1 in english. They are actually available on Lowe's website, the Qbrick I mean. Pretty fairly priced as well. It looks to be a nice set with different lid options one including a integrated metal T- track.
Rob, this is the crazy amazing FLEX way to engineer POWER TOOLS. Remember, the episode when you were explaining to Sarah about Milwaukee RED Lithium Batteries and FUEL technology... All others make tools for the battery platforms. Some even make tools to hold multiple batteries. FLEX makes batteries for the POWER TOOLS. This is now an absolutely new, FLEX way of engineering and building Long Term Evolution of the Power Tools.
Next for flex, a skill saw that cuts with zero blade offset, so I can cut flooring in line with the bottom plate of a wall for renovation jobs. No more multi tool/oscillating needed!
@@atrainace114 thanks, I have seen that. I’m in New Zealand and our power here is 240v, the CUZ D is 110v which presents an issue. It would also be good to have it provided by a local store/brand so after sales support exists.
Yeah I can see that being a problem. I'm sure this may fall in that category as well but I actually use an electric undercut jamb saw. I dont know if you guys have access to these? Mine is in the orientation of a grinder, as it looks like one with a wood blade. It has an adjustable shoe on the bottom. An adjustable guard on the front and a recessed arbor nut so it will cut zero clearence. I usually stand it on end with the handle up and run it on the guard. I dont know if this helps but, cheers.
@@atrainace114 thanks for your reply. I had a look and there’s only one shop in NZ that sells them, with no price listed online. I found another one online overseas and it was over $1000NZD. Probably best to stick with the multi tool (about $250NZD).
As for what I would like to see in terms of tools. I would love to see the FLEX solution to the Miter Saw system. I bet they would come up with the crazy effective and efficient solution.
If I where to go next, I would do the “packout “ and have “better features” like in some what better or not, because I am a Milwaukee man. God Bless!!!!
I didnt think the xlock would catch on when bosch released it but it does make me happy more brands are starting to delve into the world... i just might have ti pick one up soon
Do you mean competition for Keter not packout? Most all of the plastic tool storage/transpo. solutions across brands are made by Keter. If Flex did make their own in house that would be interesting to see. Why if its red we will make a better one. Was there mention of others specifically, as it pertains to 60v. 24v vs 18v isnt really even test now if it smokes 40v and 60v then color me impressed and at a lower price point I'll color my name on a check!!!
That saw is awesome! My favourite saw is the Milwaukee Fuel 6 1/2” because it’s lightweight, has a smaller shoe and has a blade on the left. And you’re telling me this thing has a larger cutting capacity then a 7 1/4” saw? Sure, I’ll take one please.
It was a pleasant surprise when they brought it out. I didn't know what to make of it when I first saw it. It's crazy looking in person. But it worked. Really, really well. There are all kinds of performance benefits to using a smaller blade, but a smaller cutting depth is the consequence. Assuming this saw turns out to be durable and long lasting, it's the one I'll be using.
I would like to see Flex offer a line of farm and ranch tools, especially a good quality 25 to 50 gallon herbicide sprayer that would fit in the back of a side by side ATV and would use their 24 volt batteries.
Great video. If I was flex, I’d go after some specialty market item: cordless magnetic drill base, cordless knockout tool, cordless drain snake, and electrical fish tape. Breaker hammers...different sized hammer drills. Different sized band saws. Lighting...etc etc. keep up the good work. How was chicago? I work there everyday. Well you weren’t really in the city I believe, the shop is off of warrenville rd :). Live confidently and peacefully
I am soooo excited for flex! If I was designing my line of tools I would try to mostly re design other brand's "failed" projects like milwaukee's surge impacts, yeah they are cool but they really didn't catch on. If this would be an success there wouldn't be any competition, but that's just my opinion.
Flex should make a right angle drill next with fantastic ergonomics like the Milwaukee M28 but with more torque. Single speed 500 rpm. Case should hold (3) batteries of the larger variety.
I agree w/ much of what's been said already, but would second the track saw and mower, precisely because they're notable things that Milwaukee hasn't done well yet.
Track mounted tools. Bring it in at an actually affordable price to the US market. It's insane that the cheapest name brand option is still $400+ for the saw alone. Make something for the Homeowner and a more powerful variant for the prosumer/tradesmen. a cheap cordless track saw is all I want.
Hi - excuse my ignorance, but what is the actual difference between the Lowes FLEX tools (Grey and Green) and the Flex tools (Red and Black)? They both seem to be owned by Chervon? Love your program. Many thanks!
Chervon does indeed own "FLEX", a very popular buffer and sander company in Europe. While you can buy them here in the states, they're just not nearly as popular. When they launched an entirely NEW line of FLEX power tools (Black and Neon Green) they simply utilized the name they already owned. But the lines of tools are separate.
I like that inline skilly, I hope the teal will bring out a version of it! On the XGT thing, I work in commercial construction and I have a need for the more powerful grinder and sds drill, but I still have need for a lot of 18v tools too. But in the end if I run the xgt charger with 18v adapter, maybe it won’t be too different from yellow guys running their 18v tools with their old 18v batteries and keeping their flexvolts for their high power tools anyway. I’m just a little bit jealous of their convenience tho.
@Belts and Boxes - might your Flex contacts know if or when this line will make it to Canadian Lowes stores? The Den of Tools showed that we can register these tools in Canada... but the guy at the nearby Lowes hasn't heard of this tool line. I told him about it and he Googled the inline saw - he loved it... as do I. He said there is NOTHING in their system about it. With borders being closed and my likely having to pay half the price of the tool to have it shipped internationally PLUS duty, I might have to wait 30 years to be able to take the 45 minute drive to get one. Any indication of possibility would be appreciated!
Can we please get a 1/2 inch full sized cordless router. That would be dope! I know HPT has one oversees, but been dying for makita to drop one. I would buy it if flex came out with one. Thanks for the show keep the content coming.....
That flex saw is really flexing it's muscles. Wow. That depth is pretty impressive... Like really impressive. I just hope that the belt doesn't become the week point in all of it. I've worked on tools, with tools and around tools for most of my life, and belts seldom last a long time. Binding becomes the biggest issue with belt wear. Unless the tension is perfect, it won't last very long. (Although, if there are two speed sensors, to gauge the slip in the belt, (which isn't outside the realm of possibility in this day and age,) it might actually last a very long time.)
@@mikemccormick3259 you probably haven't had to change bearings either, or the reduction gears. I'm not saying that it will fail, but that is is the most failure prone area. I have replaced the dw708 belts, and bearings and armatures from people who abuse their tools.
I don't know if the belt will be under enough pressure to worry about failure over a long period. Just like Mike's 12" Dewalt. But then again, this saw will get carried around and dropped on the jobsite. Still can't wait to use this saw some more.
I would design a impact drive that would have a chuck like a drill but the chuck key would be a 1/4 inch adapter so It could use standard impact driver bit and of course it would use 40volt makita batteries
IMHO the Mikita 40V line is a gimmick. The batteries are the exact same size as their 20V variants, just wired so that you get twice the power with half the run time.
The jigsaw test missed out the king of jigsaws, the Mafell. It is like no other jigsaw in the world. Very expensive but nothing comes close, not even Festool.
I don't think they're going to convince as large of an audience as they would intend. At a certain point you are too heavily invested in batteries to afford a 3rd or 4th option that is not yet as expansive. I can't wait to see the performance and maybe someone like AvE getting their hands into it 🤔
Re: Flex, what would I do? I'd build out a battery ecosystem, more than anything I'd like a battery system that I can charge with a solar panel as well as mains and then use the battery hub as a camping/home battery backup to charge portable electronics and power 120V appliances.
I guess when your competition makes reference to "if it currently comes in Red they're gonna make a better one" it means you're doing something to be respected and feared. Watch out Bauer because Chervon is coming for ya! You can replace Bauer with Hilti if I misinterpreted what you were saying.
How about they make the circular saws compatible with tracks? Like really how hard is it to offer this. Makita has a couple of saws with a tracksaw compatible base. The red guys don't even have a tracksaw.
They couldn't make their "inline" a worm/hypoid!? Ergh! Also, you're comparing its width with a bigger diam circ saw, but they both have the same cutting depth? Can't wait to see it next to a Makita Hypoid!
I think the worm drive would use up a lot of real estate around the arbor. That would eat up cutting depth. That crazy belt drive they came up with means they can get crazy deep cuts with a 6 1/2" blade, meaning more torque!
Didn't Porter Cable have a sister tool company who primarily was in the Stone/Granite Industry called "Flex". I Thought they were still making that tool line.. .?
FLEX was a German company that created the Angle Grinder, started in 1922. They worked with Porter Cable until it was sold to Black and Decker in 2004. FLEX was purchased by Chervon in 2013, and now Chervon is using the brand to launch an entirely new line of power tools.
@@ToolShowThank you for your reply. Iinteresting. I was on a site recently and it looked like they were still making and selling the Gernan Flex tools...???
Watched the project farm, as I always do. He's great because of his excitement and innovative tests. Only VCG construction thinks he's not great. I think he's just jealous.
Flex/EGO/SKIL should adapt the systainers. They can always add neat features to them, but stay with an universal modular system. There are too many already
Flex has to come into the market and use shock & awl if they want to get those $$$ of of peoples wallets. Can't wait for release day and the morning after at my Lowes.
if I had flex tools r&d I would concentrate on producing a complete line (include hand tools hammers shovel pry bar burke bar multi tool axe and a 24volt line of jacking up winching and a flex chainsaw large in small
I’m gonna assume that Rob’s bleeped out comment wasn’t due to an NDA with Flex, but was actually Sarah drawing the line at a *really* bad your-mom joke, Also, where did the ProjectFarm guy get a miniature bear trap? And *why* is there a miniature bear trap? Do you place them around particularly small pic-a-nic baskets?
I wouldn’t switch even if they did offer this. I just don’t see them truly competing with the big three. Of course it’s great for us if they do, but I have zero interest. Why switch from a platform I know and love to a new name with zero track record?
I have the Flex In Line saw, Its absolutely awesome, ( Im a 35 year experience trim carpenter), Flex needs to build the best cordless portable table saw on the market, before Festool does it.
been really impressed with flex . most of my cordless tools are dewault. but needed a new grinder and was intrigued by the new flex tools. now have multiple flex tools. like them better than the unfortunate red tools we use at work. biggest wish for me is to make US or German made tools. hard to say be 100% into tools only made in china
The only way to get people to switch from a tried and true platform and switch to a new brand with unproven results in the field and with unproven warranty service is to offer some type of trade in program and discount their tools as part of the trade. Even when a competing tool manufacturer comes up with a tool that beats my existing platform it’s never by enough to make me switch. Having a drill that drills 500- 1” holes vs 400 1” holes on a 5ah battery is not going to get people to switch. People that are heavily invested in tools (which I would say is their target) aren’t going to abandon their tools because another line is marginally better. They better have some Doc Brown type ingenuity going on at flex and some 1.21 gigawatt batteries because if not, me and Marty ain’t buying.
Yup! Some people were able to purchase them early, and made videos about them. Unfortunately, we haven't found any that compare proper models. (ie. FLEX entry level drill VS Milwaukee FUEL Hammer-Drill) That doesn't help anyone make a decision, or speak to the viability of the line. But we're still watching! And of course, as soon as the Event is over on Monday night, you'll see professional reviews from the likes of Shop Tool Reviews, VCG, ToolsbyDesign, and more! Keep an eye out!
Looking forward to a FLEX compact impact wrench that can finally take on air (and maybe what's new from DeWalt??)
hey, I follow you too, I like what you do
Maybe they'll have a jointed adapter you can test too?
Hey Flex...forget red. Go after that German company! I want a battery-powered track saw with good dust collection that doesn’t cost me a half-year income! ;)
THIS THIS THIS.
OMG YES!!!
Makita, has a score feature which festool doesn't. Also has a standard blade size and greater cutting depth and also can use the festool track. Get the aws model and you can use it with a wireless dust extractor.
We need competition with packout, abso-freaking-lutely. Competition breeds excellence, competition breeds innovation.
I just use milk crates.
I don't get the hype about the packout. DeWalt's tough system is way more practical..
@@interman7715 not practical for installers and contractors.
@@maaniek940 eh, I have the versastack and the tough system, basically the same, and the pack out has many more options, larger volume, tighter manufacturing tolerances, better weight limit, and many more third party accessories that change the game.
Well, for me the fact that I can hang the boxes on folding brackets is a deal breaker. I have 6 to 8 boxes stacked up on each rack in my van. Can't imagine having to remove 5 to 7 boxes to get to the bottom one. Shelves won't do it either as occasionally I do need full capacity of the cargo, then I just remove all the boxes, fold brackets and voilà! As to the better specs, I just don't need that, DeWalt boxes are more than good enough for me. All that makes them ideal for me, but I get that for others packout might just work out better. Cheers
"No worries! Lowe's can just cancel the orders and AHHH NEVERMIND they shipped them." 😂🤣
Just keep RUBBING IT IN OUR FACES Jim, that you got to show off the tools first! ;-)
Oh wow, thank you so much for the highlight. Definitely wasn't expecting to see that in this episode but I greatly appreciate it!
Since Milwaukee can’t make a track saw flex should definitely do it
Maybe it’s coming!
Yep. I would venture to guess nothing is going to make a M18 track saw come faster than if Flex puts one out first....
Definitely competition is a good thing.
Drives up innovation, pricing gets way more competitive, which means more deals and incentives in the long run for the end user for any brands they so love.
Can't wait to see what they offer!
I like this saw! Easy to see while cutting. How how sweet it’s going to be FLEX 💪
As a mechanic Milwaukee is the only one offering a huge amount of special tools. Flex would be interesting, but looks like they are going for the construction side.
I would love to see Flex do a 120v (5x24v) Sliding compound double miter with laser and rear clearance technology to rival Bosch. That would be epic. DeWalt has a 120, but Flex could combine the best of both worlds between Bosch and Dewalt...
You hit the nail square on the head, we need an affordable competitor to Milwaukee's modular pack out system! The 90% of us who don't have $1,000 to drop on a storage system for our tools are begging for it. There's nothing even close to comparable and it's left me scratching my head as to why.
Thanks for reading my comment by the way! I know it's a mouth full 😄 but just in case it's ; G-uh-quin-toe but you can call me Aj if you want it makes things a little easier.
Thanks G-Uh-quin-toe! I appreciate it bud. :)
@@ToolShow yeah it's a nightmare for anyone reading out loud 😂
I buy the rigid boxes lol
Next for flex should definitely be specialty tools. They're gonna want to get as many people on their platform as they can. A rival to pack out would be nice but those won't get the people who need specialty tools to switch.
That's why milwaukee is alpha dog, all the niche trade tools..flex has a mountain to climb lol.
@@AllTattedUp13 couldn't agree more that's why I don't see myself leaving makita anytime soon. On what other platform can I get an upright vacuum, air compressor, chainsaw, and a coffee maker
More competition from Flex means Milwaukee is going to have to step up their game. In the end we the consumers win.
AGREED.
How old are you? Do you really want to invest in yet Another Battery platform of tools.
It will take years for the new kid on the block to come out with as many different tools as the Big Three/ Four...?
@@gregorylondos534 I've changed platforms before. All you have to do is find an apprentice who needs the tools you've got and sell them to said apprentice, or just part out your existing collection. Might take some time, but not infeasible.
What about competition from Hilti? Or DeWalt? Or Makita? Or Bosch?
@@SouthBaySteelers they are good too, but have not received the wide market share that Milwaukee has.
Flex looks good, but unless they come out with 190+ other tools to compete with Makita, Dewalt or Milwaukee I will not be switching. I want a one battery platform. I could care less about having the best individual tool just that each one is good enough.
That's a hill they'll have to climb. There will be 28 tools at launch, with "many more" on the way. But it will still be years before they have lines like the other guys who have been building up their lines for a decade.
Okay, Flex should create an open source pack. Battery to motor with a usable mount plate and universal drive so we can build our own stuff.
THAT would be a bold move.
@@ToolShow and an awesome one.
I WANT THAT FLEX SAW!
I just wish they would come up with a hybrid power solution like Metabo hpt. I get that they obviously want to sell more batteries but let's be honest you don't always need cordless and they could own the market if they would have the option of corded and battery all in one.
I really wish they come up with a 7 1/4 double bevel sliding miter saw
I’ve never heard of such a thing, but that’s really interesting!
Impressive depth of cut if you say that the Milwaukee fuel has a depth of cut two and a half inches the metabol HBT 6.5 would still have a greater cut I have both saws and the 6.5 cuts deeper than my seven and a quarter I'm surprised that this inline saw doesn't have an even deeper cut
a track saw, nothing else will impress all of us carpenters
They already have a competition to pack out! Sadly it's red and it's sold across the pond. I had high hopes it would make its way here for this launch.
What system are you refering to? Qbrick?
Yea the only thing better than packout in the US is eu has black with red accents... bring that stuff over here. It looks way better!
@@atrainace114 Not sure what it's called, my German is a bit rusty, lol.
I gotcha. I tried looking for a video and only 1 in english. They are actually available on Lowe's website, the Qbrick I mean. Pretty fairly priced as well. It looks to be a nice set with different lid options one including a integrated metal T- track.
The use L-boxx in the European Flex tools www.flex-tools.com/nl-nl/products/l/accu-machines-8/
PLEASE!!!!!!! Tell them to do what Milwaukee has been refusing to do for years, and make a JUMPER PACK!!!
I got all flex tools for my business and they work great with their life time warranty
Rob, this is the crazy amazing FLEX way to engineer POWER TOOLS. Remember, the episode when you were explaining to Sarah about Milwaukee RED Lithium Batteries and FUEL technology... All others make tools for the battery platforms. Some even make tools to hold multiple batteries. FLEX makes batteries for the POWER TOOLS. This is now an absolutely new, FLEX way of engineering and building Long Term Evolution of the Power Tools.
Next for flex, a skill saw that cuts with zero blade offset, so I can cut flooring in line with the bottom plate of a wall for renovation jobs. No more multi tool/oscillating needed!
I believe they have a corded version of this CUZ-D straight flush cut saw.
@@atrainace114 thanks, I have seen that. I’m in New Zealand and our power here is 240v, the CUZ D is 110v which presents an issue. It would also be good to have it provided by a local store/brand so after sales support exists.
Yeah I can see that being a problem. I'm sure this may fall in that category as well but I actually use an electric undercut jamb saw. I dont know if you guys have access to these? Mine is in the orientation of a grinder, as it looks like one with a wood blade. It has an adjustable shoe on the bottom. An adjustable guard on the front and a recessed arbor nut so it will cut zero clearence. I usually stand it on end with the handle up and run it on the guard. I dont know if this helps but, cheers.
@@atrainace114 thanks for your reply. I had a look and there’s only one shop in NZ that sells them, with no price listed online. I found another one online overseas and it was over $1000NZD. Probably best to stick with the multi tool (about $250NZD).
It's a good design but it's still a blade left saw. The tilt adjustment only goes one way.
I believe those other companies are scratching their head over that 61/2 circular saw
All the other companies have to do is change up the design/engineering a lil to avoid patents, and they'll come out with them
@@AllTattedUp13 very good point and it's possible
As for what I would like to see in terms of tools. I would love to see the FLEX solution to the Miter Saw system. I bet they would come up with the crazy effective and efficient solution.
With their deep cutting cordless circular saw I hope the miter saw is as innovative
@@503Nick I join you on that motion. It is a pleasure and honor to be a part of same minded people
If I where to go next, I would do the “packout “ and have “better features” like in some what better or not, because I am a Milwaukee man. God Bless!!!!
Full pack out with compressor, table saw and mitre saw
I didnt think the xlock would catch on when bosch released it but it does make me happy more brands are starting to delve into the world... i just might have ti pick one up soon
It's especially nice seeing it on a major player like Makita. They make absolute rock-star grinders.
Do you mean competition for Keter not packout? Most all of the plastic tool storage/transpo. solutions across brands are made by Keter. If Flex did make their own in house that would be interesting to see. Why if its red we will make a better one. Was there mention of others specifically, as it pertains to 60v. 24v vs 18v isnt really even test now if it smokes 40v and 60v then color me impressed and at a lower price point I'll color my name on a check!!!
Flex....can't wait till Monday
That saw is awesome!
My favourite saw is the Milwaukee Fuel 6 1/2” because it’s lightweight, has a smaller shoe and has a blade on the left.
And you’re telling me this thing has a larger cutting capacity then a 7 1/4” saw?
Sure, I’ll take one please.
It was a pleasant surprise when they brought it out. I didn't know what to make of it when I first saw it. It's crazy looking in person. But it worked. Really, really well. There are all kinds of performance benefits to using a smaller blade, but a smaller cutting depth is the consequence. Assuming this saw turns out to be durable and long lasting, it's the one I'll be using.
I would like to see Flex offer a line of farm and ranch tools, especially a good quality 25 to 50 gallon herbicide sprayer that would fit in the back of a side by side ATV and would use their 24 volt batteries.
Great video. If I was flex, I’d go after some specialty market item: cordless magnetic drill base, cordless knockout tool, cordless drain snake, and electrical fish tape. Breaker hammers...different sized hammer drills. Different sized band saws. Lighting...etc etc. keep up the good work. How was chicago? I work there everyday. Well you weren’t really in the city I believe, the shop is off of warrenville rd :). Live confidently and peacefully
I am soooo excited for flex! If I was designing my line of tools I would try to mostly re design other brand's "failed" projects like milwaukee's surge impacts, yeah they are cool but they really didn't catch on. If this would be an success there wouldn't be any competition, but that's just my opinion.
Interesting strategy. I like it.
I love my surge. I have makita and dewalt but prefer to save my ears.
Lawn and garden 🪴. Chainsaw, polesaw, blower, mower....
Flex should make a right angle drill next with fantastic ergonomics like the Milwaukee M28 but with more torque. Single speed 500 rpm. Case should hold (3) batteries of the larger variety.
I wish Dewalt adopts the X lock system. I will immediately buy a new 60v grinder just for that feature alone
I agree w/ much of what's been said already, but would second the track saw and mower, precisely because they're notable things that Milwaukee hasn't done well yet.
damn flex flexing on milwaukee as hard as they can tool wars
I can’t wait for that 6 1/2” circular saw. I was thinking about getting the Makita but I’m going to hold off and try out the Flex.
Great belt drive. Now is all about price and waranty
Track mounted tools. Bring it in at an actually affordable price to the US market. It's insane that the cheapest name brand option is still $400+ for the saw alone. Make something for the Homeowner and a more powerful variant for the prosumer/tradesmen.
a cheap cordless track saw is all I want.
Hi - excuse my ignorance, but what is the actual difference between the Lowes FLEX tools (Grey and Green) and the Flex tools (Red and Black)? They both seem to be owned by Chervon? Love your program. Many thanks!
Chervon does indeed own "FLEX", a very popular buffer and sander company in Europe. While you can buy them here in the states, they're just not nearly as popular. When they launched an entirely NEW line of FLEX power tools (Black and Neon Green) they simply utilized the name they already owned. But the lines of tools are separate.
@@ToolShow thank you for your kind reply! Looks like I will have to buy from USA and then ship back to UK. Have a great day!
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I like that inline skilly, I hope the teal will bring out a version of it!
On the XGT thing, I work in commercial construction and I have a need for the more powerful grinder and sds drill, but I still have need for a lot of 18v tools too. But in the end if I run the xgt charger with 18v adapter, maybe it won’t be too different from yellow guys running their 18v tools with their old 18v batteries and keeping their flexvolts for their high power tools anyway. I’m just a little bit jealous of their convenience tho.
I’d like to see someone challenge milwaukee in that 12v arena. No one comes anywhere near close. Especially in the auto industry side of things
@Belts and Boxes - might your Flex contacts know if or when this line will make it to Canadian Lowes stores? The Den of Tools showed that we can register these tools in Canada... but the guy at the nearby Lowes hasn't heard of this tool line. I told him about it and he Googled the inline saw - he loved it... as do I. He said there is NOTHING in their system about it. With borders being closed and my likely having to pay half the price of the tool to have it shipped internationally PLUS duty, I might have to wait 30 years to be able to take the 45 minute drive to get one. Any indication of possibility would be appreciated!
For the right price and the tools that I need as electrician I would consider switch to flex
Can we please get a 1/2 inch full sized cordless router. That would be dope! I know HPT has one oversees, but been dying for makita to drop one. I would buy it if flex came out with one. Thanks for the show keep the content coming.....
I could REALLY get behind a cordless full sized router.
@@ToolShow Ikr. I keep stalking the patents to see what's coming. Thanks for the shout and like.
That 6 1/2" circular saw what size dimensional lumber will it cut?
Great video thanks again
"FLEX FOR FANTASY" !
Billy Idol
Make a truck box like decked but stackable and at a better price point
That flex saw is really flexing it's muscles. Wow. That depth is pretty impressive... Like really impressive. I just hope that the belt doesn't become the week point in all of it. I've worked on tools, with tools and around tools for most of my life, and belts seldom last a long time. Binding becomes the biggest issue with belt wear. Unless the tension is perfect, it won't last very long. (Although, if there are two speed sensors, to gauge the slip in the belt, (which isn't outside the realm of possibility in this day and age,) it might actually last a very long time.)
I've had my DeWalt 12" chop saw for over 15 years and haven't had to change the belt yet.
@@mikemccormick3259 you probably haven't had to change bearings either, or the reduction gears. I'm not saying that it will fail, but that is is the most failure prone area. I have replaced the dw708 belts, and bearings and armatures from people who abuse their tools.
I don't know if the belt will be under enough pressure to worry about failure over a long period. Just like Mike's 12" Dewalt. But then again, this saw will get carried around and dropped on the jobsite. Still can't wait to use this saw some more.
@@ToolShow I think the biggest issue will be if the saw stalls and the belt burns through.
Combination table saw and miter saw
So 2.5" cutting depth. Got it.
SHHHHHHH!
I would design a impact drive that would have a chuck like a drill but the chuck key would be a 1/4 inch adapter so It could use standard impact driver bit and of course it would use 40volt makita batteries
So flex is directly foing for Milly customers? i wonder why they arent shooting for Dewilt of makita?
I wouldn’t switch unless it had a pack out system to go with it
IMHO the Mikita 40V line is a gimmick. The batteries are the exact same size as their 20V variants, just wired so that you get twice the power with half the run time.
The jigsaw test missed out the king of jigsaws, the Mafell.
It is like no other jigsaw in the world. Very expensive but nothing comes close, not even Festool.
I don't think they're going to convince as large of an audience as they would intend. At a certain point you are too heavily invested in batteries to afford a 3rd or 4th option that is not yet as expansive. I can't wait to see the performance and maybe someone like AvE getting their hands into it 🤔
Re: Flex, what would I do? I'd build out a battery ecosystem, more than anything I'd like a battery system that I can charge with a solar panel as well as mains and then use the battery hub as a camping/home battery backup to charge portable electronics and power 120V appliances.
Flex should totally outwit milwaukee in their packout system, also they should further develop oil impulse tech in impact drivers.
I guess when your competition makes reference to "if it currently comes in Red they're gonna make a better one" it means you're doing something to be respected and feared. Watch out Bauer because Chervon is coming for ya! You can replace Bauer with Hilti if I misinterpreted what you were saying.
How about they make the circular saws compatible with tracks? Like really how hard is it to offer this. Makita has a couple of saws with a tracksaw compatible base. The red guys don't even have a tracksaw.
Milwaukee has a saw with track compatible base just not sold in u.s. Really tho how hard to make a dang aftermarket baseplate for pre existing saws
They couldn't make their "inline" a worm/hypoid!? Ergh!
Also, you're comparing its width with a bigger diam circ saw, but they both have the same cutting depth?
Can't wait to see it next to a Makita Hypoid!
I think the worm drive would use up a lot of real estate around the arbor. That would eat up cutting depth. That crazy belt drive they came up with means they can get crazy deep cuts with a 6 1/2" blade, meaning more torque!
Red is too good to go down
Didn't Porter Cable have a sister tool company who primarily was in the Stone/Granite Industry called "Flex". I Thought they were still making that tool line.. .?
FLEX was a German company that created the Angle Grinder, started in 1922. They worked with Porter Cable until it was sold to Black and Decker in 2004. FLEX was purchased by Chervon in 2013, and now Chervon is using the brand to launch an entirely new line of power tools.
@@ToolShowThank you for your reply. Iinteresting. I was on a site recently and it looked like they were still making and selling the Gernan Flex tools...???
Watched the project farm, as I always do. He's great because of his excitement and innovative tests. Only VCG construction thinks he's not great. I think he's just jealous.
Wait VCG doesn't like PF? HOW?
@@stevenohnsat7535 the video on impacts, where PF said the Milwaukee was the best...
Flex/EGO/SKIL should adapt the systainers. They can always add neat features to them, but stay with an universal modular system. There are too many already
Now if Sarah released a new powertool i'd be first in line 🤗
Flex can take my money
Yes a pack out!
Flex has to come into the market and use shock & awl if they want to get those $$$ of of peoples wallets. Can't wait for release day and the morning after at my Lowes.
if I had flex tools r&d I would concentrate on producing a complete line (include hand tools hammers shovel pry bar burke bar multi tool axe and a 24volt line of jacking up winching and a flex chainsaw large in small
The flex impact driver is a one speed. It would need to impress to justify the pricetag
I’m gonna assume that Rob’s bleeped out comment wasn’t due to an NDA with Flex, but was actually Sarah drawing the line at a *really* bad your-mom joke,
Also, where did the ProjectFarm guy get a miniature bear trap? And *why* is there a miniature bear trap? Do you place them around particularly small pic-a-nic baskets?
BWAAHAHAHA I cannot confirm nor deny this. As for the mini bear trap? I have the same questions.
Cordless roofing
Where is milwaukee with an x-lock grinder!?!?!?!
More people should be asking this.
Not happening.
Get to the saw!
We did! 4:05
1-1/4" sds plus rotary hammer with larger built in OSHA mandatory dust collector. Case designed for (3) 8.0 batteries.
OPE that actually lasts under battery power.
Know i gotta have the smaller saw i got the bigger one lol
Flex 88in zero turn
Get me a blower vac with the bag out of the way and super mulching blades and light weight and the bag doesn’t tear easily, with headlights!
Does flex make a 8" metal cutting saw?
Ok Flex. Change our minds with a full retail tool buy back on things that come in “red”.
LOL love this idea. If only!
I wouldn’t switch even if they did offer this. I just don’t see them truly competing with the big three. Of course it’s great for us if they do, but I have zero interest. Why switch from a platform I know and love to a new name with zero track record?
I have the Flex In Line saw, Its absolutely awesome, ( Im a 35 year experience trim carpenter), Flex needs to build the best cordless portable table saw on the market, before Festool does it.
been really impressed with flex . most of my cordless tools are dewault. but needed a new grinder and was intrigued by the new flex tools. now have multiple flex tools. like them better than the unfortunate red tools we use at work. biggest wish for me is to make US or German made tools. hard to say be 100% into tools only made in china
The only way to get people to switch from a tried and true platform and switch to a new brand with unproven results in the field and with unproven warranty service is to offer some type of trade in program and discount their tools as part of the trade. Even when a competing tool manufacturer comes up with a tool that beats my existing platform it’s never by enough to make me switch. Having a drill that drills 500- 1” holes vs 400 1” holes on a 5ah battery is not going to get people to switch. People that are heavily invested in tools (which I would say is their target) aren’t going to abandon their tools because another line is marginally better. They better have some Doc Brown type ingenuity going on at flex and some 1.21 gigawatt batteries because if not, me and Marty ain’t buying.
Something tells me there is going to be some good deals for red.
Hey my comment made the show
MILWAUKEE PLEASE ADOPT THE X-LOCK SYSTEM
hi guys
There’s already tool reviews on the flex
Yup! Some people were able to purchase them early, and made videos about them. Unfortunately, we haven't found any that compare proper models. (ie. FLEX entry level drill VS Milwaukee FUEL Hammer-Drill) That doesn't help anyone make a decision, or speak to the viability of the line. But we're still watching! And of course, as soon as the Event is over on Monday night, you'll see professional reviews from the likes of Shop Tool Reviews, VCG, ToolsbyDesign, and more! Keep an eye out!
6:30 what is that guard doing
I'm excited! 🤪😃