My 1978 Datsun mini truck had a similar spare tire carrier system. I had a hex nut welded to the end of the 3-piece bar so I could use a ratchet to lower or raise the spare tire. Today a battery powered tool instead of a ratchet may be used. Surprised you did not do something similar. Great video and loved the ending. Thanks for sharing.
Good to know a 37 will just fit. I’m on 37 inch Ridge Grapplers on my Gladiator. I have a 35 inch Ridge Grappler under the jeep as a spare. I will simply use the spare on my right front axle in 2WD to get off a trail and easily still be able to drive down the highway at 65 mph until I get a new 37 inch tire. The FAD system on the front axle will also allow the slightly smaller wheel to spin freely with no differential issues. This video is the best demonstration that a 37 will fit under a gladiator. Keep up the excellent content.
I was just watching some of your old JK experience videos and thinking, I sure miss these epic short movies. About 30 seconds later, I thought I bet that was a lot of work. Today, I think your current content is plenty enough for me lol It's nice that you guys are still doing this channel after all these years.
We really appreciate you saying as much. As much as we enjoyed making videos from trips like the JKX, they cost a lot of money to attend and took a tremendous amount of time and work to produce. Now that everyone and their mother make RUclips videos, there's just not enough return on investment to keep doing it. We hope you can be understanding of that.
@wayalife Of course, and thank you for the time and effort of producing those gems. Perhaps you can teach these one hundred or so channels how to make a professional video. For a small fee lol
If anyone is curious I have a 38 inch ridge grappler that fits underneath, running the same track bar and I ground down the hitch reciever just barely before flush to the weld on the backside receiver, it’s a pain getting it in and out and it hangs so low, that for any serious wheeling it goes in the bed. Also something to note if your running real beadlocks and have a matching spare be aware that water will pool up into the bolt holes when it rains or during winter so it can corrode and seize the bolts on the ring if you don’t use anti seize.
@@in435 Yeah the 38 inch ridge grappler is a great tire! Super stoked I was able to get mine to fit underneath. It looks like I might’ve trimmed the heat shield a little bit on the side that’s to the front of the vehicle, since the radius of the shield was too small for the 38. Hopefully if that makes sense, but it’s hard to tell it’s been a few years since I did it… I know some people have removed the heat shield completely and I haven’t heard of any issues with the heat from the exhaust but I’ve never personally done it so can’t say you’d be good with confidence. Let me know if you have any more questions!
@@FeleniousGru Yes, it does make sense, thanks! The 38 is great but not always in stock so I placed an order and just playing a waiting game. I have an on board air compressor so I’ll probably air it down as well.
I have a 37” BFG KM3 aired up under my gladiator without any modifications. I used this tire specifically because it fits. run 38” Nitto Ridge Grapplers on rhe truck.
@@wayalife I know! Thats why I chose that specific tire. I mentioned i use this specific tire so some one can use the 37” BFG as a spare and not need to make any changes
Glad to hear you were able to make it work. I thought going down to zero might help just squeak it in but then, I didn't like the idea of it 'just' fitting and don't want to have to deal with airing up a tire to replace a flat tire.
Another fantastic video! Did you remove the heatshield from the driver side, no issues I assume with it getting hot from the muffler? I had to bend mine a bit and lowered my psi to like 10 for it fit. I have the Metal Cloak track bar. Also how do you keep your jeeps so clean, all your videos your jeeps are spotless, it looks like you never drive them but Im sure you do😛
@@wayalife I have 37x13.50 nitto mud grapplers and the Accuair lift. Wanting to tuck the 5th in spare location, do you think the Clayton track bar will contact anything at full drop?
what's up man love your videos my jeep's lease is about to end the one thing that's holding me back from getting another wrangler is the way the jeep handles on the freeway do you recommend a mod that will make the jeep feel more grounded in high speeds
I would need to know a lot more about your Jeep. How much lift does it have if any? What kind of tires are you running and how much air do you run them at?
Well, assuming you keep it stock, it should drive fine at highway speeds. Maybe not like a BMW with rack and pinion steering but as steady as a solid front axle with a steering box and links can be. Running a more reasonable tire pressure like 30-32 vs the 35-40 that normally comes in them will help too.
Considering that it measures 37.7" and the 37" Trail Grappler you see in this video measures 36.5" and it just barely squeezes up between the frame rails, I somehow doubt it.
Great vid. I knew about these, but it was nice to see one in action. Have you ever driven the gladiator without the rear track bar? does it wobble like a drunken sailor?
A track bar is essential to keep your axle in place. Without it, your axle will be all over the place and yes, I have broken one on the trail and it required a repair to continue on.
@camaroboi13 No tire measures what is stated on the sidewall and while your 37" Toyo's fit fine, that doesn't mean a 38" Nitto Ridge Grappler will. As I show in the video, my 37" Nitto Trail Grappler did not.
@@camaroboi13 To each their own. Me, I find that I get by okay with 4.10 but never really see 8th gear anymore. From personal experience testing out 37's with 4.10, 4.88 and 5.13, I personally would say that 4.88 brings you back to stock performance best.
@@Jacob-bf5zu As mentioned, with 37's, 4.88 will bring you back to stock performance. 5.13 will give you more power but it will also have you run on the high side of RPM at highway speeds. 5.13 is a much better fit for 38's.
That's why I specifically stated what 37 we're running. Just because it says 37 on the sidewall doesn't mean it's actually 37" in size and no 2 tires made by different manufacturers measure the same. Nitto typically make tires that sit on the big size and closer to what is advertised.
Oh just great, Eddie is back to showing off. how to carry 37 inch spare this time. On a serious note, have you had any issues offroading and dropping off a ledge subsequently hitting your spare?
LOL - as of yet, I have not had any issues but then, I've only wheeled totally stock on easier stuff and only recently installed this 37. It's a legit concern but I hope to mitigate it by being aware of it. Same as I do with the oil pan 😎
So glad I found this channel.
Synergy Adjustable Rear Track Bar or Clayton Adjustable Rear Track Bar
Awesome! Glad you found us and both are great track bars.
Awesome solution! So much better than running a 35 as a spare. Nicely done!
It was cheaper than buying a 35 too! About half the cost 😎
Who needs anything done when they have a cute doggo in their lap. productivity can wait a day or two...
LOL - that is for sure! Glad you enjoyed seeing Ripley 😊
My 1978 Datsun mini truck had a similar spare tire carrier system. I had a hex nut welded to the end of the 3-piece bar so I could use a ratchet to lower or raise the spare tire. Today a battery powered tool instead of a ratchet may be used. Surprised you did not do something similar. Great video and loved the ending. Thanks for sharing.
This was a fantastic find, Was going to go to 35's next year but really wanted some 37's for my Mojave. Appreciate the video!!
Glad to hear our video was helpful to you!
Still a tight fit but it looks much better than being mounted on a rack. Great to see another Made in America product.
Yes, still a bit tight but at least it's still in the factory location. And yes, MADE in the USA is what I want!
Great vid only one on this I’ve seen that also shows clearance with the frame and hitch
Glad we could share this with you :)
I have the Clayton rear track bar on my Gladiator with 37" Falken Wildpeak M/T. It works out nice!!!
Awesome! Glad to hear it worked with the Falken too.
Good to know a 37 will just fit. I’m on 37 inch Ridge Grapplers on my Gladiator. I have a 35 inch Ridge Grappler under the jeep as a spare. I will simply use the spare on my right front axle in 2WD to get off a trail and easily still be able to drive down the highway at 65 mph until I get a new 37 inch tire. The FAD system on the front axle will also allow the slightly smaller wheel to spin freely with no differential issues. This video is the best demonstration that a 37 will fit under a gladiator. Keep up the excellent content.
Happy to hear our video was helpful for you to see. I should note, I bet a slightly worn down 37 Ridge Grappler would fit as well.
You can throw it on the back as well in an open differential scenario. The small wheel will just become the more or less only drive wheel.
@@Tinker3504 I have a limited slip differential in the rear on my Jeep. But yes an open differential would be fine.
I was just watching some of your old JK experience videos and thinking, I sure miss these epic short movies. About 30 seconds later, I thought I bet that was a lot of work. Today, I think your current content is plenty enough for me lol It's nice that you guys are still doing this channel after all these years.
We really appreciate you saying as much. As much as we enjoyed making videos from trips like the JKX, they cost a lot of money to attend and took a tremendous amount of time and work to produce. Now that everyone and their mother make RUclips videos, there's just not enough return on investment to keep doing it. We hope you can be understanding of that.
@wayalife Of course, and thank you for the time and effort of producing those gems. Perhaps you can teach these one hundred or so channels how to make a professional video. For a small fee lol
The video I needed to see. Thanks again for such an awesome video. Time to order this track bar.
Happy to hear our video was helpful to you 😎
Makes me feel better. I've settled on Clayton 3.5 Overland Plus which comes with this rear track bar for the spare. Great video once again. 😊
I think you'll be happy with it and glad you enjoyed the video 😎
If anyone is curious I have a 38 inch ridge grappler that fits underneath, running the same track bar and I ground down the hitch reciever just barely before flush to the weld on the backside receiver, it’s a pain getting it in and out and it hangs so low, that for any serious wheeling it goes in the bed. Also something to note if your running real beadlocks and have a matching spare be aware that water will pool up into the bolt holes when it rains or during winter so it can corrode and seize the bolts on the ring if you don’t use anti seize.
Did you also remove the heat shield?
@@in435 still have it, might’ve trimmed it though I don’t remember, I’ll crawl under there later and look and update you.
@@FeleniousGru Thanks for your reply! I’ve been running the Ridge Grapplers 38x12.5x17 without a full sized spare but would like to do so.
@@in435 Yeah the 38 inch ridge grappler is a great tire! Super stoked I was able to get mine to fit underneath.
It looks like I might’ve trimmed the heat shield a little bit on the side that’s to the front of the vehicle, since the radius of the shield was too small for the 38. Hopefully if that makes sense, but it’s hard to tell it’s been a few years since I did it… I know some people have removed the heat shield completely and I haven’t heard of any issues with the heat from the exhaust but I’ve never personally done it so can’t say you’d be good with confidence.
Let me know if you have any more questions!
@@FeleniousGru Yes, it does make sense, thanks! The 38 is great but not always in stock so I placed an order and just playing a waiting game. I have an on board air compressor so I’ll probably air it down as well.
This build was pretty much everything I wanted to do to my JT before I got the power wagon.
Very informative Eddie. Glad to see you back making videos.
Glad to hear you found our video to be informative and that you enjoy them as a whole.
Thanks!
We really do appreciate it, thank you 😊
You and Cindy make the Best Video’s 👍
We are truly humbled that you would say as much, thank you 😊
If you flip that tire over then you can check the air pressure while it is mounted. Great video sir
That would be a great idea but doing so would also cause damage to the finish on the wheel where the cable attaches to it.
Not to mention if you live anywhere with salt and snow, the finish starts to rust out
Once again an interesting subject. Thank you !
Glad you enjoyed it
good to know! my 37 Nitto Recon Grapplers when aired down to 20psi. in my 2020 JT-R
I have a 37” BFG KM3 aired up under my gladiator without any modifications. I used this tire specifically because it fits. run 38” Nitto Ridge Grapplers on rhe truck.
No tire measures what is stated on the sidewall and BFG does make the smallest of them all.
@@wayalife I know! Thats why I chose that specific tire. I mentioned i use this specific tire so some one can use the 37” BFG as a spare and not need to make any changes
Bro all your video are high quality with a lot of detail keep up the good work👍👍
Truly humbled that you would say as much, thank you 😊
Dad-gum. You do great videos. They are so very informative…and I like the music… thank you…
LOL - we're glad to know you enjoy our videos and the tracks we use 😁😁
Another very informative video like always thanks Eddie
Glad you enjoyed it
Well done man...another super tip.
Glad you enjoyed it and found it to be useful 😎
Really like the video thank you so much for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
Great info. The Clayton stuff looks nice, likely what I will go with in my build.
I think you'll be happy with it.
@@wayalife good to know!
Excellent as usual!!!
Happy to hear you say as much, thank you!
Good tips, on mine I just left the tire deflated and it went right in, then I just keep a compressor on board
Glad to hear you were able to make it work. I thought going down to zero might help just squeak it in but then, I didn't like the idea of it 'just' fitting and don't want to have to deal with airing up a tire to replace a flat tire.
my BFG KO2 fits, it does touch the hitch/receiver. I let the air down to 12 psi, it helped
BFG does make good tires but they are they do measure smaller than any other I have seen so, I'm not surprised.
@@wayalife Yes, My BFG K02 37's measure 35-7/8". Still a good tire, BUT! I have the Clayton RTB and the full-sized spare fits with room to spare.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The underside of your jeep is cleaner than the topside of mine!
🤣 I try really hard to clean things up before doing an install 😁
@@wayalifebro what do you use to clean your undercarriage it’s so dam clean 😮
Awesome video! I am getting the exact same track bar for my JT!! Can’t wait!
Awesome and glad that our video was helpful to you 😎
What a great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love the content…. Always!!
Thank you. We're happy to hear it.
Another awesome vid. Thank you guys!!!
Really happy to know you enjoyed it 😎
Another fantastic video! Did you remove the heatshield from the driver side, no issues I assume with it getting hot from the muffler? I had to bend mine a bit and lowered my psi to like 10 for it fit. I have the Metal Cloak track bar. Also how do you keep your jeeps so clean, all your videos your jeeps are spotless, it looks like you never drive them but Im sure you do😛
I have one of those! Aussie/Collie, great dog. Have you decided on regearing to 4.88 or 5.13? Great info. Thanks!
From experienced testing out both, 4.88 is the right ratio for 37's. They are what we will run.
Hey Eddie, great vids. I see that you removed the heat shield. Was it for more clearance??
Yes, you really can't install the 37 with it on and I got rid of it ahead of time knowing that I would be installing a bigger spare.
great video , thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I have their 2.5” overland plus lift on my JT, love it. 👍🏻❤️🇺🇸
Nice!
I had to use this tool for myself the first time when I ran over something the size of my thumb lol.
That's useful info.
Glad you think so!
Great video Eddie! Quick question, I see those are KMC Tank wheels can you tell be the offset you used? I assume it was the -38mm?
Correct. 3.5" of back spacing or -38 offset
Thanks!
What program are you using for tire size correction
I have used just about everything available on the market today from a Flashcal, Procal, Tazer, ECRI, you name it. On this Jeep, I am using a Jscan.
How many inches is your lift? And what brand if you don't mind me asking?
We are running an EVO 4.5" lift
Do you think there will be any clearance issues using this with the accuair dynamic lift when fully dropped?
The ACCUAIR Gladiator was running 37" Toyos.
@@wayalife I have 37x13.50 nitto mud grapplers and the Accuair lift. Wanting to tuck the 5th in spare location, do you think the Clayton track bar will contact anything at full drop?
Not that I know of or can forsee.
what's up man love your videos my jeep's lease is about to end the one thing that's holding me back from getting another wrangler is the way the jeep handles on the freeway do you recommend a mod that will make the jeep feel more grounded in high speeds
I would need to know a lot more about your Jeep. How much lift does it have if any? What kind of tires are you running and how much air do you run them at?
Well my new Jeep if I get it will be the Rubicon X with the extreme package
Well, assuming you keep it stock, it should drive fine at highway speeds. Maybe not like a BMW with rack and pinion steering but as steady as a solid front axle with a steering box and links can be. Running a more reasonable tire pressure like 30-32 vs the 35-40 that normally comes in them will help too.
Ripley!❤
LOL - happy to hear you enjoy seeing her 😁
Here for the install but stayed for the puppy.
LOL - so happy to hear you enjoy seeing Ripley 😎
Good stuff
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video 😎
Will it fit a 38" Toyo MT?
Considering that it measures 37.7" and the 37" Trail Grappler you see in this video measures 36.5" and it just barely squeezes up between the frame rails, I somehow doubt it.
We’re can buy this track bar
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Great vid. I knew about these, but it was nice to see one in action. Have you ever driven the gladiator without the rear track bar? does it wobble like a drunken sailor?
A track bar is essential to keep your axle in place. Without it, your axle will be all over the place and yes, I have broken one on the trail and it required a repair to continue on.
@@wayalife roger. Right. I was thinking sway bar. It’s been a long day at the office. Lol.
I admit sometimes I watch these just for the music 👌🏻👌🏻
LOL - happy to hear you like our tracks 😁
do you think a 38" nitto ridge grappler will fit?
I don't know for sure but I don't think so. I run 38 Ridge Grapplers on my 392 and it looks to be at least as big as this new 37 Trail Grappler.
It will fit. I run the 37” Toyos and have room to spare.
@camaroboi13 No tire measures what is stated on the sidewall and while your 37" Toyo's fit fine, that doesn't mean a 38" Nitto Ridge Grappler will. As I show in the video, my 37" Nitto Trail Grappler did not.
And now we know 😊
Happy that we could share this with you 😎
What gear ratio do you run with the 37s?
I run 3.73s on mine and love it 👍🏻
@Jacob-bf5zu At the moment, we are still just running the factory 4.10s that came on our Rubicon but we're hoping to bump that up to 4.88 soon.
@@camaroboi13 To each their own. Me, I find that I get by okay with 4.10 but never really see 8th gear anymore. From personal experience testing out 37's with 4.10, 4.88 and 5.13, I personally would say that 4.88 brings you back to stock performance best.
@@wayalife ya I’m torn between 4.88 and 5.13
@@Jacob-bf5zu As mentioned, with 37's, 4.88 will bring you back to stock performance. 5.13 will give you more power but it will also have you run on the high side of RPM at highway speeds. 5.13 is a much better fit for 38's.
How could you keep working with a dog with all that love
LOL - it's near impossible 😁
Happy Father’s Day
Thank you :) If you're a father too, Happy Fathers day to you as well.
@@wayalife Thank you 🙏🏽
Nice add bro lmao.
Still like the content
That's odd my conforser 37s fit fine. But they are narrower!
That's why I specifically stated what 37 we're running. Just because it says 37 on the sidewall doesn't mean it's actually 37" in size and no 2 tires made by different manufacturers measure the same. Nitto typically make tires that sit on the big size and closer to what is advertised.
So my new 35’s shouldn’t need anything
Nope. You can just install your spare and go.
Best way to carry 37 is sell and buy real truck
You're so cool dude 🤣
Oh just great, Eddie is back to showing off. how to carry 37 inch spare this time. On a serious note, have you had any issues offroading and dropping off a ledge subsequently hitting your spare?
LOL - as of yet, I have not had any issues but then, I've only wheeled totally stock on easier stuff and only recently installed this 37. It's a legit concern but I hope to mitigate it by being aware of it. Same as I do with the oil pan 😎