Why did Rosie Ruiz CHEAT the 1980 Boston Marathon?
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2020
- Why did Rosie Ruiz CHEAT the 1980 Boston Marathon?
On April 21 1980, Rosie Ruiz was awarded first place female at the Boston Marathon. 8 days later, she was stripped of that title after it was declared that she had cheated, and in fact had only run the final mile of the race.
40 years later, I wanted to understand how and why did Rosie Ruiz cheat the Boston Marathon?
My sincere thanks to writer Will Cockerell and broadcaster Toni Reavis for their authority and input on this fascinating story.
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Well, that was incredible. Great storytelling. Bravo, well done.
Yeah it’s a pretty crazy story - thank you
Funny how we remember her name but not the real winner.
That's a great point Christopher - often it's the unusual or the more 'out of the ordinary' aspects after years of an event that are more widely remembered. Excellent surname by the way.
Harry
@@thisisjogon Thanks Harry. I was in Boston at the time but didn't care for the Marathon and fanatic jogging craze then at its peak, esp with "preppies" which Boston is full of. Mor is a phoneme
for the sea, gan for les gens, "people", Celts, the "people by the sea", we somewhere have Welsh ancestry. Wales is a wonderful place to visit, by the way. I was welcomed home by so many folks!
Jacqueline Gareau
It's the same thing with Tonya harding people remember her but for all the wrong reasons.
We don’t remember the real names of any winners of that long ago though. If she didn’t cheat, no one would still know the name of the real winner.
Running a mile feels like a marathon to me too.
Ha 🏃♂️
Who remembers on Fresh Prince when Geoffrey ran the marathon but got caught taking a cab to the finish line? Geoffery Butler- THE SHAME OF A NATION!
🏃♂️ 🚖 oh Geoffrey
Thank you for watching Kage
Hey Jeffrey Get me a sandwich...or take a cab.
I've always been a little fascinated about this story. I'm a little surprised she never came clean. I learned as a child that lying is SO exhausting. She could never pull that off today.
Thank you for watching and commenting
It IS exhausting! Definitely points to someone with serious problems.
Considering the rest of her life story, she may well have been a pathological liar.
As an amateur marathon runner myself, the idea of cheating like this makes me angry beyond measure. The best part of finishing a marathon is not the congratulations, but the knowledge that you did it, that you actually ran 26.2 miles. I can't imagine cheating and lying about it like this, the whole time knowing you didn't do it
wild isn't it
Indeed. I ran two in a very slow time at 18 and 19, and I haven't run one since because of how out of shape I was leading up to the second (you could choose at the race for the latter if you wanted to run the full or half at around the 10-mile mark, and if my roommate wasn't cheering me on at that exact spot, I almost certainly would have decided "this isn't my day, so I'll just do a half"), but I'd _never_ think of doing a shortcut and claim I ran the whole thing.
I RAN BOSTON THAT YEAR. I ran qualifying times other years; but not that year. But, I was in the area and so went there and ran it. Highlights: 1) Pre-race, I went 1/4 mile up the course and took a picture of "Boston" Bill Rodgers going by; (then jogged back to the start line and started running from last place.
2) I passed over 2,000 runners (I counted along the way).
3) I broke 3:00:00 - so it was a great run for me at that time. (My PR: 2:39:00 in 1981, San Diego Heart of San Diego Marathon - I finished 9th overall there).
4) THE THRILL: Going past Wesley (Women's) College: both sides of the road were packed with women screaming their heads off for us - neither before nor since have i experienced anything like it!
5) Totally unexpected, there was chaos and confusion at the finish area when I got there - lots of people knew there was something wrong.
BY FAR THE strangest post-race scene I ever witnessed. Great elation for most of the runners; mixed with disbelief and anger over Ruiz. (Pictures of her at that time showed a woman NOT at all in condition to run a marathon; much less a world-class one - her thighs were loose / out of shape - like, if she even ran, it wasn't much or serious.)
Thank you for this Pablo, a fascinating read. I appreciate you watching!
Harry
@@thisisjogon You're most welcome.
If you have a TikTok you should story time this
@@elizabethgould994 I do not. I tried TikTok but it wasn’t quite the right format, perhaps I need a TikTok manager
This was very cool to read thank you!!
Liars caught in a large lie, tend to dig in further into their lie. They rarely fess up and admit they have lied.
It’s amazing isn’t it
What a well put together mini doc. Bravo
Appreciate it
BRAVO... that is the best video about Rosie Ruiz I've seen, and your emphasis on compassionate understanding rather than superior judgement is an example to us all!!!! I'm extremely moved!!! I'm so happy to subscribe and check out more of your channel!!!
Thank you Bev
A similar story of cheating occurred in the 1968 solo yacht race around the world. The cheater, Donald Crowhurst, had also not intended to win, with all the scrutiny that would entail, but the leading boat broke its mast on the final leg, and Crowhurst's trimaran 'The Teignmouth Electron' slipped into first place, with Crowhurst descending into stress-induced madness. The film 'Deep Water' is a fascinating look at a family man in desperate circumstances, trying to avoid financial ruin, with an unsuitable boat, who gambled his life and reputation, and lost them both.
Thank you for sharing
If she had waited another 20 minutes and crossed in 2:51 she would have probably got away with it
A great point Timothy - mad to think
Cheers for watching
I read somewhere that she never intended to finish first - supposedly she just wanted to finish in the Top 10 and get her name in the papers. But she mis-timed it and jumped into the race too early, thinking the lead female runner had already passed her.
Which makes you wonder, imagine how many people have cheated and gotten away with it.
Such a crazy story. Thanks for filling in the details. 👍
This theme has been replayed in so many sitcoms.
Thank you
A great & interesting video Harry - thank you.
Thank you for watching Richard, I appreciate the support very much
I love the editing! Well done sir!
Thank you for watching
Ruiz died a few years back, I heard, and she stuck to her story right to the end.
Absolutely, quite a crazy story. Thank you for watching
Fascinating. Really enjoyed that, Harry, thank you.
Thank you Sally
I just want to clarify - did they ever acknowledge Jacqueline Gareau in any way??? It would be so nice to see them do a formal recognition even now. If Jacqueline Gareau is on the record books, did they give her a medal and a wreath at any point? The prizes aren't so important, but I'm curious. Thank you for an interesting documentary - very well done.
Believe so, but worth researching. Thank you for watching it’s appreciated
I know after Rosie Ruiz was officially disqualified they did another ceremony where they presented the wreath and medal to her. But unfortunately it's not the same thing as if she crossed the finish and been declared the winner. Like Lance Armstrong look at all the people who came in second because of him.
Fascinating. Good editing too. Really like the way you cut back and forth between the interviewees.
Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for commenting
I love this video, I’d love to see more running history videos from you Harry - you’re a great storyteller
Thanks Olivia, there are some ideas floating around
I have a fascination with famous liars. My favorites are Elizabeth Holmes, Tania Head, and Rosie Ruiz
Appreciate you watching Pete
Casey Anthony was the worst
This is the best video I've seen on The Marathon Cheater. Too long, straight to the details
Cheers
Great job on the video, all the main points in 10 mins.
Thanks
Wasn’t aware of this particular cheater. Great mini doc.
Appreciate you watching
I remember standing at the corner of Hereford St and Boylston and noticing the ADIDAS shirt and thinking “no serious runner wears that.”
Amazing Geoff
Class video Harry
Appreciate that Callum
I watched the twilight zone marathon in 1980 .
I got through it. But I was exhausted after.
Crazy
I'm aware of some Marathon winners but never heard of Rosie Ruiz.
Interesting video.
Thank you
Not sure how I got here. But a very interesting story!
Glad you got here and thank you 🙏
I didn't know that part of the story. That is so sad
Thank you for watching
this was tremendous. perfect ppl to interview.
Thank you
Your explanation makes a lot of sense.
Thanks for watching
I remember this story!
It’s quite mad
I was 4 in 1980
That's one lie that went way out of hand.
A crazy story
The Rosie Ruiz affair really seems like a script for a Hollywod movie.
In fact, this really should be a movie based on what ive seen here.
Perhaps one day it will. Thank you for watching
@@thisisjogon
Yeah maybe .
You are welcome.
I do remember this very well in my teens. I just was wanting to know WHY?! If she had just admitted her fault, her life could've gone better. Such a shame that Ms. Ruiz took that lie to her grave. Also, I felt bad for Ms. Garceu (sic). To be the rightful winner and not getting the rightful spotlight, her just 🎉🎉. She knew what an interval was. She was the rightful winner.
A crazy story, thank you for watching
Seeing the way this unfolded and Cloney's reluctance to disqualify her, I can't help but wonder if he was gun shy because of the way they so badly mishandled the Katherine Switzer run in 1967.
Thank you for sharing
I remember in 1980 Genuine Risk(a filly) had won the Kentucky Derby and Johnny Carson joked that perhaps she had also cheated using the subway.
Great bit of history
I ran track in high school in the 80’s south of Boston oh this is all coming back forget about a lot of this especially after the Tom Brady era
Thank you for sharing and watching!
Idk how i got here but thanks youtube algorithm.
Gotta say i love the understanding from the others runners here. No vitriol or demonizing hate. What she did was terrible but she probably was just a deeply troubled woman who got in way over her head.
Cheers for sharing
He sounds like the editor in the first Spider-Man, one of the commentators
My voice or one of the gentlemen I interview?
Certainly a big story on NY news at the time.
Yup
I love this.
🧡
Would make a great Movie.
It would
this is a screenplay
Genuinely agree
Wow what a sad story
indeed
Not the Cuban we want representing our people. I do hope she found peace before and after she passed.
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Had she waited and let couple women pass before jumbing into the race and finish 4th or 5th. Would people notice she cheated?
Far less likely, but who knows
Great story...
Thank you
Sad story
Indeed
" What is an interval ?"
Crazy, thank you for watching
Heard about her on The Goldbergs 😆
Lisa, I have no idea what that is, but I love that you watched this, thank you.
Harry
lol that's how i found out as well
me too
@@thisisjogon an American comedy about the life of an actor/writer/director Adam Goldberg during his childhood and events he captured on film in the 80s.
Here because of Joe List 😂
Fascinated to know what or who that is?
It's hard tu run a mile while pretending you ran 25 miles before that.
First
Impressive Kyle. Hope you enjoy it took a while to create!
I don't see no sweat on you.
Lol what was she thinking haha
A crazy story