Why is THIS in a PlayStation game?
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2023
- local woman accidentally puts the pieces together solving a 24 years old mystery
special thanks to hbomberguy, hitsujigoods, lowspecalex, mrmario2011, kacey and purmello for helping me out with this!
link to the reddit thread: / til_in_1999_ea_had_to_...
link to hitsuji's game: hitsujigoods.itch.io/ngdn
ISBN: ISBN 0-7845-1503-4
Number on disc: 791107
let me know in the comments if i forgot any links or smth lol
special thanks to damantioworks for the english subtitles!
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Intro music: Pegasus Mix - Dark Archon (arhn.eu)
Outro: fami theme - lobelia
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ignore the sounds you hear after the outro btw they are totally random and... a render error or something
ooooh an ARG by f4mi? I'm gonna enjoy this!😍🤑
You can use RUclips's editing tools to cut it out
no
hey fami the U """software""" is borderline malware use QBIT """SOFTWARE""" instead ty love the video.
@@thatoneluna elaborate
"What company would publish something evil like this?"
What mother would buy her son a GOLF game?
Who thinks South Park is a "kids cartoon"?
That being said, EA is evil.
Just not for this reason.
@@roxassora2706 this was the late 90's, South Park wasn't nearly as known as it is today
@@roxassora2706 yes, it was the pilot of south park
@@Immadeus True
An hour-long video explaining the origins of a padding/placeholder file in some old golf game? Sounds fantastic!
YUP!
💀
More like another video where skipping and watching 5 minutes of it and ignore the rest is the best case scenario.
Her breathing into the mic and weird accent pretty much gave me an headache too.
How people like these get 50k + subs is the biggest mystery to me. Looks like social media is filled with lost idiots and doesn't look it will get any better soon or at all but only worse.
exactly my thoughts ! which is why i am going to watch it now. riveting stuff
Exactly, but yet I've watched the whole thing, well made for sure!
Loved the editing on this, awesome work!
what
Michael, your videos are great
wait why are you here-
@@cookies5129 to watch a video
@@cookies5129 you do realize that people who create content also watch content?
I think you're right about how the kid found the file. What you described was really common, I remember doing it many times. I assumed it was a feature, honestly. Also a lot of 90s games basically encouraged you to look through the games folders. A lot of pc games came with extras, mostly wallpapers, that you could only access by going into the disk and looking for the folder. Usually named "extras" or flat out "wallpapers". So kids back then were a lot more likely to stick a game into their computer and see what they could find.
tbt to when a dreamcast game was mastered on an infected computer and shipped with a particularly destructive virus embedded in a bonus screensaver
I remember putting discs into anything that would take them. CD’s in the PlayStation, PlayStation games in the stereo player, you name it
Yeah, I did it as well. I remember finding music and cutscenes. One of the Civ games just had all the movies for the 'council' in a big file
Ah yes. nothing like buying a good old videogame and putting the disk into your pc to find goofy stuff!
FR
>be f4mi
>possessing one of the unassuming rarest original copy of PS1 game ever
>doesn't want to destroy the disc because her external drive is making "Skrillex bass"
>proceed to use PS3 to "read" the disc
This is the peak "Sometimes my genius is almost frightening" moment
"She found me and binged my channel" I feel like that sums up most of the subs that got an unassuming video about a GameCube Demo Disc in their recommendations. This video was a blast, I love how this channel can show me Nintendo, DankPods and Top Gear pretty much back to back. Also, I made a playlist of DankPods BGM on RUclips which I'm now just going to assume you probably came across in the wild.
Hello fellow dankpods enjoyer
Within seconds of this video I already predicted it’s definitely going to be about the South Park pilot. What I didn’t expect was a further explanation of the actual game files on the PS1 CD. Thanks for taking us knee deep into the rabbit hole as well.
You missed the thumbnail?
13:18
Here in Germany they also replaced in Command & Conquer the soldiers with "robots".
Difference were the icons in the build menu, an oil stain instead of a blood and a "soda can" crushing sound when they where crushed by a tank.
This was in a game with 640x480 resolution for "soldiers" with like 8 pixels as bodies...
Implied violence counted too. Devs had to be VERY careful not to cross any lines.
Yeah and the TF2 characters with robots
@@nxx99 are you talking about mvm?
@@bcfed censorship in germany
They also replaced drivers in Flatout 2 with crash dummies, and somehow that version got to italy via FX Interaktive and it's really difficult to find nowadays
This might be the single most brilliant piece of media I’ve ever saw on RUclips.
One hour of non-stop, filled with shockingly golden details, content.
This shit HAS to blow up, props, fr.
Okay but calm down lol
@@MaxwellVador lmao fr its good but damn
this is the quality of f4mi :)
Love this vid. First one of hers I’ve found big fan. @Paoletti also check out “actionbutton’s doom review” for more retro obsessive journalism
I always love your videos. Just want to say thank you before EA has you disappeared.
2 letters agency
@@f4micom Experts in Assassination
lol oh no
@@f4micom expert assassination
amazing video. subbed!
Thanks man! Really appreciate hearing this from you
This just unlocked a memory I forgot I even had from when I was super young, putting games like Wipeout 2097 into our old eMachines and ripping the soundtrack onto Windows Media Player. I don't know if it was super common knowledge that you could do that back then, but I doubt if I was tech savvy enough to figure it out by myself at the time, so I probably heard about it from somewhere. Makes me think that kid probably wasn't the first person to ever find the dummy file, just the first to really publicize it.
During my years at school it was pretty common knowledge, but it wouldn't work on every PC. Back then you needed a cable between the drive and the soundcard just for CD Audio.
The PS2 actually had a button to let you play the tracks from the browser I think it was if you press square or something
That's how I learned about it haha
@@LiEnby IS THIS FOR REAL
Wtf, why is this video such a banger?
I genuinely don't understand how this channel isn't bigger, the production value on these videos is insane.
Edit: wtf, you got hbomberguy to voice stuff, god damn
Edit2: dammit, now I gotta search for the links
this story always reminds me of how every copy of windows xp actually has a copy of microsoft bob hidden on the disk
This video's Weed Mario count: 3
Total count so far: 25
Speaking of dummy data on CD. In 2006 year in Russian released “LADA Racing Club”. The game was talked about a lot in magazines and on the Internet and was shown at exhibitions. In addition to the fact that it was literally garbage, it was on 4 CD and when installed on a computer, unused data was copied.
Whoa, I didn't know about the concept of adding dummy data to increase the disc space, that was a neat thing to learn
yeah i had no idea either, super cool honestly (and insane how ridge racer is only 4 mb)
Penguins need HUGS
It also bonused as a sort of anti piracy technique since it meant the games were alot harder to share online
i swear some youtubers know how to make literally everything interesting this had me hooked on a story about a GOLF GAME for 53 minutes straight
Dummy files carried over to the PS2 era. In fact, there's weirder dummy files than this one (though much less profane). One notable example is that all PS2 copies of Digimon Rumble Arena 2 contain what essentially was a fully playable early build of the game hidden inside a file named FILL.FIL. There's a few other PS2 games that also have dev builds used as dummy files but the DIgimon one is what stuck out to me.
This is why I love this channel. Hour of content. Not padded, beautifully edited, lovely references to (not only?) Portal, kept going deeper and deeper and had me hooked on every second of it. Here's a comment for the algo overlords!
i mean, i've only been here since the $9 japanese DSi, but your channel is one of the most underrated on here. Every video is interesting, information-packed, long and lots of work. Thank you for producing such high quality content, and letting us watch it for free. :P
30:53 Wait, people were actually alive BEFORE SiIvaGunner was invented?
How did they manage to do that?
I thought it held the fabric of reality together!
42:18 This part is interesting since you can see the effects of what would've happened otherwise when games later in the gen/next gen started to learn to stream game data from the disc in real time.
One of my friends had a super scratched Starsky and Hutch disc for the Xbox for example. It's a driving game with an open world that loads as you go through it (as expected). So since it has trouble reading the data in time, the game wouldn't stutter but you'd end up driving into a part of the world that hasn't loaded in and fall off the map.
Other games have failsafes for this like the original NFS Most Wanted. If the game can't keep up due to a scratched disc, the game will stop and pull up a transparent loading screen before you would otherwise drive into the abyss.
Love this video wish it was longer. Some day I will need to fill up data on a disk and I'l use this video.
"I now know everything about a videogame I've never played"
story of my life...
Looked through a few listings on Ebay, and found a copy with those numbers on the disc! Picked it up, always love having a piece of gaming history.
That was quite the journey.
I also like how former employees were represented by gray kittens. I'd love to have gray kittens working at my company (if I had one)
Yes, that would be cool
GRANDPA MILLENNIAL HERE................BACK IN MY DAY WE never seen videos of this quality and depth. this is like OG youtube glory jacked up with modern overstimula hyperdrive with like 'get out the popcorn for david attenborough' vibe. praising the internet gods for the existence of yr channel and wishing many moons of happiness and hype 4 u
50:14
Oh shit... doubt you're gonna see this Fami, but that guy who made the forum post (TriMesh) was one of the engineers at Sony who worked on the CD drive. If my memory also serves me correctly, he also helped crack the PS1 to make the first few PS1 modchips with his experience... but I can't recall.
We used to talk quite a bit in the Assembler Games' chatroom, but I've lost contact with him. He'd be a great source on any video on the PS1.
OH wow that is interesting, also yeah, unfortunately assembler too is only in archive mode rn...
@@f4micom that it is, but he was active a few weeks ago on PSXDev!
A channel with only 50k subscribers makes the best and high quality content ive seen on youtube! Even "hired" a voice actor.
Maybe she should hire a decent narrator.
I think the process of using FTP on a PS3 is the "sophisticated computer technique" that EA lawyers is referring to. 🤔
Gotta give them credit, that process was pretty sophisticated in 1999 indeed. Just getting the damn time machine to work alone could take ages!
I imagine that lawyer retelling the story of how he saved EA and the ESRB from Hillary Clinton with three words to his grandchildren at an old age and how he watched trucks on trucks offload hundreds of thousands of copies of Tiger Woods '99 into a pit in the Chihuahua desert and and the grandchildren thinking that grandpa has gone demented.
i just watched the entire 1 hour instead of doing something else i should've done, super interesting!! kept me hooked at all times and i really enjoyed it, thanks f4mi :)
Your editing, script, graphics, jokes, and voiceover are all fucking brilliant. Loved every minute of this 1hr video of a padding file
I can believe that a programmer used a random South Park clip they liked in order to test the CD writing abilities of the development libraries, and just forgot to delete it afterwards...
Forget to delete happens a lot in development. That's why cut content exist in games.
so happy to see another video from you f4mi. thank you for putting so much work into this, it's a really fun and interesting watch!!
watched half the video two weeks ago, finished it just now, amazing work!
now this is the content i signed up for, just discovered the channel and i absolutely adore everything from the jokes to the editing. high quality content like this deserves all the praise. Thanks for sharing your discoveries with us! (great references too! especially that dankpods segment)
I feel like more than half of this video was dedicated to explain something the majority of people already know.
Or at least it's something I already understood as the reasoning behind this is fairly obvious and common knowledge
really enjoyed it, I love how deep you go into the story!
I am commenting for the algorithm. But also because I love how creative some of the bits are in this video and I appreciate how much effort was put into it. Thanks f4mi!
your channel is in my top 5 currently, love your videos
I have no idea how you're able to consistently make such high quality videos that go on for this long, straight up some of the best content out there! Looking forward to see what you've got in store for us next!
(But please try not to burn yourself out making all these!)
Really appreciate the effort you put into covering the whole thing! Great video :D
Some Beatmania game on the PS1 had partial source code for it in it's dummy file... gotta wonder if that was a genuine mistake or a disgruntled employee. Since it's Konami the latter is definitely not unheard of...
Normally I get kind of annoyed when someone fills their video essay with a bunch of pop culture references, but you're good at it.
the tomb raider games used CD audio for cutscenes, very funny to be able to hear the whole story play out uninterrupted by gameplay
Another excellent documentary/investigation vid from f4mi! Exactly what I needed to get through this illness I’ve fallen into.
love your videos! nice to see you're still making them < 3
Yoooo an almost 1 hour F4mi video!
already loving it
i didn't realize that the skit that led to south park was published on a TW game, the skit is actually older than south park itself however. if i remember right, matt and trey wanted to do a show about mr hanky, but comedy central wanted specifically a series based on this very skit in question.
i like to comment on videos and supporting f4mi
the highly anticipated comeback 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Thank you so much for this video. This is was marvelous! My favorite video of 2023 so far.
when did you get 45k more subscribers??? glad your channel is growing, you deserve it for the work! (and the hitsujigoods crossover was unexpected)
this was wonderful. even though I am familiar with the general outlines of the history around this, I had no idea about this coverup at all and you did a phenomenal job with outstanding editing to cover every single detail, even finally telling me who has wondered why we can mash a bunch of gamecube games into one wii DVD so easily with "compression", which is because of all this dummy data used to make disc go vroom vroom.
i really love your dedication to high effort editing on stupid meme jokes. the american psycho sequence with smash mouth is a chef's kiss moment, especially getting the exact model of CD player to display on the screen. just absolutely stellar, please never stop. I have turned the subscriber bell on because you're amazing!
This channel is already one of my absolute favourites from the two videos I watched so far
This and the wii video
incredible video, glad i found this channel
This video, more than any other video you've ever made, is a magnificent tribute to so many pieces of pop culture media and more niche stuff that I've ever grown to love as a person born in the middle 90s. Internet culture, videogames, retro aesthetics, all delivered with egregious pacing and god-like editing. Not to mention how brilliantly this whole investigation was conducted and presented.
It took me just a few minutes into this video to declare you my personal queen of "rabbit hole exploration" YT videos - the king being hbomberguy after his MASTERPIECE "ROBLOX_OOF.mp3" - and it turns out he's featured here as well! This is ecstasy.
Please never stop doing this. Even one video a year can do as long as it's THIS GOOD. This is already my favorite YT video of 2023.
I will never understand how 0's & 1's can be turned into what we see on our Computer, hear as music with our ears, and how we can make inputs with our controller's to make changes to games in real time on a display screen that's also changing in real time. CRAZY
Standing ovation to you f4mi. This video is pure gold really and I admire your resolution and determination. Plus your edits are amazing.
I love this investigations and trivia!
I really needed your brand of energy today. Thank you so much for this wonderful video! The way you construct a narrative with tons of overlapping detours and endless amounts of fascinating detail is super entertaining.
Very cool story. I love your editing style.
Thanks a lot! ^^
I think you're probably my favorite youtuber I've found in the past year. Any youtuber that talks about obscure gaming stuff always peaks my interest.
what the hell
adding the perfect DVD corners at the end has literally rewired my brain to obsess over this video thanks
Thank God I completely forgot about you but I'm so happy you finally uploaded!!
Amazed at the quality of the video and research. But wow, the editing/transitions/references AGAIN blows me away like the Maxell logo guy. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for taking the time needed to do quality work and digging further than most people, it's very appreciated.
Note 1 :
It's also useful to put the files in the order/sequence they will usually be read to reduce the head movement between files, thus saving more precious seek time.
Note 2 :
There's only 33 employees of Adrenalin Entertainment on Linkedin, and just a dozen in engineering roles. On Mobygames for Tiger Woods 99 there are only seven engineers listed as having worked on the game directly. Somebody has got to know if it's an accident or not!
Note 3 :
I wonder what the people from South Park thought about this. Pretty sure they had a good laugh and appreciated the unconventional publicity stunt.
I'm not sure if any other commenters have mentioned it, but another benefit to the dummy data standard is prevention of software piracy. Game code often referred (refers?) to particular hard offsets in the disc to read particular data, which /u/MiniRat alludes to in their comment. If files weren't laid out exactly the way they were on the disc, the game wouldn't run. Therefore, you couldn't just make a copy of a game by popping the disc in, dragging the files to your desktop, and burning them on another disc - that destroys the necessary file structure.
I just found your channel, and I'm beyond impressed with much depth you went into regarding a filler file in a golf game. I'm excited to see what else you put out before EA finds you.
I'm halfway through this video, and I'd just like to say, this has already been super informative & educational even if it was only over one lore. I've been binge watching some of your videos and I'd just like to say, thank you for covering this one specifically. I knew nothing about this lore before I started playing this video and it's amazing the amount of work and insights you put into it as part of finishing the video, plus your usual style of editing and presentation.
The thing about Animal Crossing being able to run without a disc, is due to that the fact that the Nintendo GameCube holds 24 MB of RAM. Most of the code for animal crossing is around.. 16 mb uncompressed, which fits perfectly in the RAM size of the console
The game is basically an N64 emulator (emulates the graphics and the audio) so it can be able to run fine in Gamecube, they adapted some of the code that uses N64 low level stuff to work with Gamecube buut it's basically the same as the N64. That's why it development time was quite short, it was translation and porting everything to Gamecube.
Honestly, Animal crossing is quite fascinating :) I really am investing time to check the insides and understanding how the game is coded, which is fun
I really enjoyed the video, I'm a big fan of video documentaries of anything :3
And I thought that one time a dev studio threw an entire game's beta ISO into their newer game as a dummy file was a big oops, wish I remembered what game that was. I do remember a friend of mine had a pirated copy of Crash Bandicoot that had all three games in one disc back in the day, so I've been aware that something funky was going on with file sizes even back in the day, even tho it took me years to learn that they were literally filling CD's with trash data.
BTW as a millennial I should point out that back in the day the "dealers" of pirated stuff were usually just either or parents or some other adult relative that knew their way around computers. Nobody gave a f*ck about the questionable legality of it, at least not in my country, I even remember teachers telling us to just pirate the software needed for some classes.
Digimon rumble arena 2?
i was just trying to find your channel the other day, i’m so glad you uploaded :)
Love the better call saul style of editing, nice to see you back!
Your entire description of the "Nintendo Playstation" situation is incorrect. The deal dates back to 1989 when the SNES was still in development, Sony (specifically Ken Kutaragi) created the soundchip for the Super Nintendo. A clause in that agreement stated Sony had exclusive rights to create a CD based add-on for the console at some point in the future. Nintendo was really not particularly interested in the CD format at the time and didn't actually believe Sony would ever follow through on making that add-on. Obviously they were wrong about that. The problem wasn't that Sony made a piece of hardware that was "too good" as you stated, but that the fine print in that old agreement Nintendo thought Sony would never actually follow up on stated that Sony got all the software licensing revenue from said add-on. Meaning that not only did Nintendo stand to make no money at all from a console bearing their name - they would actually have to pay Sony for the right to put out a CD game on their "own" console. Effectively this would have handed Sony their entire business on a silver platter. Obviously they tried to renegotiate to no avail, the only out they had was to publicly embarrass/insult Sony with the surprise announcement of a simultaneous Philips deal. Nintendo never seriously wanted to work with Philips - those shitty CD-I Zelda games were the price they had to pay to get out of the horrendous bind they were in with Sony.
Interesting comment. Thanks. Do you have any sources I could learn more about that?
"here's a bouncing DVD logo in case you need something to keep your attention span going for a few seconds"
My ADHD ass : i'm in this photo and i don't like it
What a delight to watch. Such an entertaining story. Thank you for sharing this.
YO this was amazing! enjoyed ur video very much 😆 thank u for solving this mystery that i never knew about before once and for all, i can finally sleep yay
I'm at the Nintendo and Sony story part, it's absolutely not what happened for what I remember, yes the partnership was indeed to make a SNES-CD, but while doing it, Sony started improving it, working on the "Play station project", they even created a new format of CD (the Super disc) to circumvent the contract with Nintendo that where giving them (Nnintendo) control over the games published to the console, Yamauchi (CEO of Big N) discoverd what SONY was planing on and was furious and in the back of SONY, went toward Philips to talk about a deal and cover their backs, in june 91at the CES, Sony presented the "SNES CD: play station", it was almost as ambiguous as the announce of the Wii U, as SONY almost presented it as a console of them running Nintendo games on CD while they where originally only working on a "adapter" or "extension" to the SNES, the day after this presentation, still at the CES, it was settled, and the CEO of Nintendo US announced "we are doing a partnership with Philips to bring CDs to the SNES", making SONY looks like fools 1- because it was canceled in a day, and 2- because they left a japanese company for a European one.
Yamauchi was a freakin shark and was never afraid to say what he think and act solely for his company interest, acting in the back like SONY did was not something he wanted for Nintendo, history proven this decision "wrong" financially, but it might have been the best any CEO of Nintendo ever made, Nintendo was not afraid of a "too god product", SONY acted like they were owning the product while they where tasked for a job.
But anyway, the video was really great, as always !
my source for that was the book Revolutionaries at SONY by Reiji Asakura, which is based upon the POV of Sony employees, so it sorta makes sense that there would be discrepancies between the two versions of the story
@@f4micom Both sides had their fault in this story, Nintendo was the monster freak that it was during the "seal of approval" era, because of Yamauchi which probably freaked SONY, that caused them to act like snake and create backdoors for their technology and their shares, creating the same royalties system put in place by the "seal of approval", so they have the majority of the shares on the media sale.
Whats funnier is that SONY and Nintendo "tried" again to make this partnership, but the deal with Philips was there, so they canned the Philips deal and said yes to SONY, but SONY just disapeared out of nowhere, the only remains where the contract that let Philips use Nintendo characters for a number of games on the CDI.
My favorite story of discovering music on a game disc was DEFINITELY from the Sega Saturn game SCUD: The Disposable Assassin
It had some genuinely killer tracks and the Dungeons and Dragons sketch from the Dead Ale Wives. My young mind was blown - the game was pretty meh - but that turned it into one of my most treasured discs.
Binging your channel and hitsuji comes up. Aight i'mma sub.
Did not think I'd get completely engrossed in such a fringe story, love the energy you put in ur vids!
Imagine how many hundreds of cubic meters of plastic waste could've been saved, if they did just ship games on mini-CDs.
31:50 is when video actually starts...
in that 30 minutes she talks pretty much nothing.
Hard to follow it, jumps across to everything except the actual point, not sure what I took from it really.
The second half of the video is just a technical deep dive into the first half, which covers the social importance of why this file was such a big deal to EA and the whole games industry
sorry your brain shuts off if someone doesn't mention a file extension every 30 seconds
What a fucking high quality video for such a wild topic. Great stuff
Your videos just keep getting better and better with each upload. Love your entire channel, keep up the great work! 💜
Chef's kiss incredible video, would wait another 6 months. Favorite RUclips channel no contest
All the old racing game music in the background is digging at the deep parts of my brain with a Komatsu
Really cool video, really informative!
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e-z rollers - retro
classic tune released on moving shadow, big ups. absolutely love it
Your content is magnificent, it's such an entertaining in depth essay but I also feel like all the references are specifically for me and even the other RUclipsrs you Collab with are ones I follow I just love love love it!
Great video as always, was worth the long wait!
One of the best videos I have seen in a long while. Glad I subbed.
Holy shit! Another f4mi video before I graduated! Thank you
This is a fascinating video. Well done.
Just when I was starting to worry where were you? You drop this massive bomb shell of a video, thanks for such good quality vids!
-C
Your videos are always a fucking ride, loved it. Def worth the wait. I wonder that the well was the sfx at the end tho
No lie I was looking for a comprehensive video about this incident like, a day before you posted this lol. Great one :)
just found your channel and learned so much about history of games and consoles. btw love your accent too xD
This video is just way too well made, I am without words to describe it. Definitely some of the best stuff on RUclips.
Somehow this channel just randomly popped back into my consciousness so I quickly looked it up and found out it had a video I haven't seen yet. Needless to say my day is made, thanks for the awesome content!
Again im amazed at how high quality this video is, keep at it :)
I had heard of this before but i didnt expect an hour long video explaining it, you clearly put it a lot of effort!