1 TRICK To Hunt Better: Advice From A Pro - Season 2: Episode 91
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2023
- Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! In this episode, I talk with Erik Cortina about long-range shooting. Cortina is a professional F-Class shooter and has been competing since 2008. He has one suggestion that will make you a better hunter, in this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors.
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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Thanks for having me on Ron. I had a great time.
Thanks for being on the show! I enjoyed our conversation.
Thank you for reaffirming the same beliefs I've been taught and have taught others. The software is still the most important piece of equipment you have in the field. Great job!
Two of my favorite channels!!!
My God what a great podcast...thank you so much Erik! This footage should be required viewing for ALL up and coming hunters. All this long range hunting propaganda out there trying to convince new hunters that shooting big game at extreme distances is somehow ethical is absolutely sickening! It's a tribute to your character that your first priority is to the ethical treatment of the animals you hunt. You are an absolute class act...best of luck in all your endeavors.
Legend. edit: I hope that the competition is held in Cape Town as I will definitely check it out then.
This was a awesome show Erik and Ron. Something I do believe is someone will learn a lot more in one year of competition shooting than a hunter will in 20 years. Who noticed Ron’s eye’s light up with .284 Win.
What they need is a competition that simulates coyote hunting. Take a 5”x10” target and send it across a field at different angles going 35 mph then shoot it from 150-300 yards away. Could even throw in a bunch of bonus pop up 2”x6” prairie dog targets all done in a 10mph wind of course.
Experience, the best teacher.
My two favorite channels all rolled into one. Great video Ron!!
100%
A long time ago I was tricked into shooting a long range competition by a co-worker. I had been told that I only had to spot the hits and maybe try to see the vapor trails. Once I got there I found out it was two man teams and both had to shoot. I had never fired the rifle and the only prone shooting I had done was indoors with 22LR. I was amazed how far I shot and how much we had to dial in for wing. After the competition I was talking to an uncle who was a long time hunter of everything. When I told him we started at 600 meters he asked what I was shooting and what the wind was. I described the breeze and told him it was a 308 with 168 grain bullets. He said "that would be close to two feet of drift." I was floored. We were dialing about 22.5 inches! This was long before range finders, kestrels and competition scopes we have now. But he hunted for decades. He was the best off-hand shooters I have ever seen. I'd been hunting a while but knew very little. This predates even ballistic software.
One of the best interviews I have seen to date. I am a huge fan of both Eric and you Ron and seeing the both of you discussing not only target shooting but hunting and bringing both worlds together to help us see the relationship between the two. Is the most informative podcast ever.
Please do more of these. It has inspired me to do much more work with wind reading.
Thanks David. And good luck with the wind!
The man knows his stuff! I have been following Eric for years and having done a little hunting and reloading as well as collecting rifles in 60+ years I am still learning new things from people like Eric which is refreshing too us old guns guys!
Another great collaberation video. Thank you Ron and Erik.
I’ve been listening to your podcast/videos for a while now and I think this is your most informative, entertaining, and most productive podcast.
I love the normal gun/cartridge stuff but this content was excellent. I can’t imagine what we could all learn spending a little time with Erik at the range
This episode was very good Ron! I have followed Erik for probably 3 yrs +/- on RUclips. Both you and Erik are the real deal. Have a great day!
Hi Eric and Ron, sure am glad you 2 particularly; put up with the U-tube BS and bring top content producers to the viewers. This and E-mail are my only public outlet.
Great interview. I know it was alluded to, but I don't think it was hammered on enough. If you really want to be a better shooter/hunter go compete. Whether it's F-Class, PRS, NRL Hunter or your local field style rifle match, there is no better way to learn your capabilities, limitations and equipment than competition. Even if you just go to watch, you can learn so much.
I enjoy listening to a world class shooter that is also an ethical hunter discussing long range hunting
So cool. Ron Spomer on Erik Cortina's Believe the Target podcast and now Erik or Ron's Outdoors podcast. Good stuff.
Love this guy. Ron, you , Eric, Randy Selby, and Who Tee Who, are my favorites. Really liked this interview. Now, get Randy Selby( The Real Gunsmith) on your show.
A great chat fellars.!
Thanks Ron and Eric for this video
"Once you have your rifle set up, go shoot in the wind!" Wise, quote Eric.
BTW.... Eric WON worlds.. Two of my favorite icons on this one. Enjoyed it.
Your best pod cast so far, so much info to digest.
Eric’s demeanor and Southern respect in his using “sir” in his response is fantastic 👍👍👍… what a class act…thank you Ron for your channel!
Ron, I've mentioned this before that you need to make a field video on this subject. We live in the same state and there good locations to practice high angle and cross canyon shots off a pack, bipod, off hand, with a sling. This would be the best content you could possibly make. I'll be looking forward to your efforts.
Thanks Ron for putting this up on you tube. I've followed Eric for a coupla years , i don't shoot competion, but hunt and shoot for fun and reload. Erics advice on reloading and setting up rifles and scopes helped this 70 years old a lot, as have your podcasts, when i thought i had it all figured out!
I’m so glad I ran into this video , I follow both you guys , and to have you both in one video is so awesome thanks for all you guys do , I appreciate you guys very much 😉❤️‼️
Thanks so much for tapping into the Erik Cortina resource. I once hunted with a man that absolutely wouldn't go to the range if the wind was over five miles per hour, but I did, especially when it was a full value cross wind. Soon, I found that estimating the drift at 200-300 was much easier and I've now been able to hit steel to 1000. What confidence that gives me, without being overconfident. Great video guys!
Two of my all time favorites in the riflemen's world. Great interview.
Erik Cortina's interview of Ron Spomer is a must see. I think it's on his Believe The Target channel.
Great show! Living in the west I find people can’t judge distance. 300 yards to a lot of people is called 450 to 500 yards. Myself 400 is a extreme long shot. I prefer 300 or less. On the plains not easy sometimes, but you can usually work closer
My two favorite hunting/shooting hosts on RUclips. These two men can tell you everything you ever wanted to know.
Ron
I always enjoy your podcast , but this was one of your best. Really enjoyed Erik and all his advice of which I found many pieces of advice particularly helpful for an old Elk hunter like myself.
Great Podcast!
More Podcast like this one.
I love this kind of conversation between two great shooters.
Thanks Ron and Erik.
Eric and Ron, thanks for the info. Great stuff!
I follow you both! Interesting to see you guys together. There is alot of knowledge on my screen right now!
Excellent podcast, Ron!
Two professional gentelmen having a little honest to honest chat together.I can't tell you guys how much I enjoyed this. Thank you both. A little news if no one heard..Mr Cortina won in South Africa. Congrads Erik.
I've watched more than a few of Erik's videos. A wealth of knowledge there. Thanks Ron for having him as a guest.
Excellent show, some very simple things to do to become a better shooter, what more can you ask.
New world Champion. let me congratulate you. Eric, when you were shooting silhouettes; did you ever shoot against Mr Lee ONeal. He won the nationals shooting a Rem. 260
Great advice. I'm guilty of wimping out when it's windy or a little to moist out on the range. Now I know that I gotta quit being a wimp and just get out there and shoot.
Paper plate sized vitals. Post targets where you want to shoot. My brother and I used quarters and dimes and Aspirin tablets at ranges from 25 to 125 yds. Shoot cold bore groups. You should be hunting up wind.
Great video guys ! I really enjoy when two different shooters get together and discuss the Commons and differences between the two . And how to work through problems to be better at what we do . 👍🍻🍻🍻
Glad to hear a world class shooter explaining the how and why of his self-imposed distance limit. I applaud his commitment to ethical hunting! Great interview!
You two together are tip top notch. Thank you.
Two of my favorite shooters on the same video. You guys are the best, keep up the create videos.
Great show Ron thanks.
Really enjoyed this chat Ron and Erik, thanks. See you in South Africa Erik
I had so many questions between hunting and long range shooting. Here you come and answer my question. This pot cast is one of the best. Thank's. Ron.
Great episode. Great interview. I've learned a lot from watching Eric's videos, it was interesting to hear him speak from the hunting perspective. It's always nice to hear an expert confirm things you've learned the hard way. As a bonus, I learned a great new excuse for missing. "I hit a bug"!
Another exelent Pod Cast Ron Eric has a great personality and a great shooter.
That was great , 2 of my 3 favorite RUclipsr in one video. Thanks
Outstanding stuff gentleman!
I wished I would have know this was coming but at least I get to go back and watch watch I missed.
Immense respect for both of you gentleman and thank you very much for sharing your lives and wisdom with all of us.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
(1) I think the most important part of this really great interview is establishing a self-imposed max range based on capability on paper / static target and a reduction factor for hunting (seems like 40-60% of on-paper capability depending on skill level).
(2) I think the very close second - and probably first if not proficient, consistent *and* shooting regularly - is to know and rely on MPBR and only going beyond MPBR (within the the constraints of item 1) if conditions are near optimal.
Without watching the full video, I would say Erik's self imposed limit is 100 yard, 3 shot 1/4 minute group...all on the crease behind a deer's front quarter (before it tips over).
Outstanding! I am a Thompson Center Encore (pistol) hunter. I have a 338 Win Mag for one barrel and shoot 225 grain SBT fairly consistently. I have found that the gun is far more capable than I will ever be. It will shoot 300 yards when I remove most of user input (sandbags, rest, etc.). However, for me off-hand 200 is the most I really want to try. With a pistol this big, even in the field, I do need a good rest - whatever that might be. The optics I use are Burris pistol scopes (excellent optics) so the equipment is up to snuff for longer ranges, but I am unwilling to trust the man behind the trigger: me. Over the years I see definitive improvement in my shooting ability when I practice a LOT, it suffers in those years when I am called to other tasks. Once again, excellent discussion and content, thank you Ron . . .
Howa bout the 280 Remington. It's a 284 Winchester with different brass. I really believe that the 280 Remington is the best non magnum round ever devised, and the 30/06 is the second. I will say that my old Remington 700 BDL is the most accurate rifle that I have since I've perfected the load. One hole groups about the size of a nickel isn't nothing to sneeze at, but I always let the barrel cool off for ten minutes between shots.
270 y 30-06 5 min 2 shot dias frios y 45 min dias caleintes
Two greats together
Fantastic Interview. Thank you!
Get a topo. well before the hunt and carry it with you. Where i go the deer know who i am, where i live and what i drive. I still only only have to shoot 50 or less yds. Last one was the side porch steps with a glock 20.
I did his advice about shooting on a really windy day. WOW! This is when I found out about the " MAGIC" of the .264 Winchester Magnum and the 140 gr. REMINGTON CORELOKT BULLETS. Factory loads moving at around 3100 fps.
Excellent this is one great show and Observation into examples of hunting and competition shooting. Something that I have tried to express for a long time. A controlled enviroment Vs unknown inconsistant one. It like my cousin would say to me during a second deployment in Iraq. Its never the same when they shoot back.
Great Pod Cast. Thank you both!!!!
Great podcast I hope you can get Eric back on at some point
Great show!!!
This is awesome much appreciated
Very good pod cast. Loaded with different info. Keep up the good work.
does anybody ever use a 25-06 for long range. my neighbor/gunsmith Shoots a water-cooled long barrel he takes to prairie dog shoots. love the way eric explains things.
Awesome podcast! Much respect for both opinions on long range hunting. Gentleman, I thank you.
Great guest! Thank you
That was great information Ron, really has opened my thoughts on what is required to improve cheers👍🇦🇺
Good stuff. Thank you guys.
A lot of common sense packed into this video. I appreciate the way Erik thinks about hardware vs. software. I think its safe to say the difference between an amateur and a pro (at any level) is the understanding and staying within the boundaries and limits of our abilities. Go out and practice in various positions and conditions to be prepared for any scenario at any time. Reading the wind, nature, and surroundings seems like it's 99% of hunting. Good luck in SA buddy!
I'm a fellow f-class shooter, and I have to disagree with Eric (K) 😉 somewhat when it comes to tuning a rifle to shoot good vs learning to shoot correctly. In my experience, it's easier to get one when you have the other. Having a good shooting rifle gives you better feedback on your shooting skills. If your rifle doesn't shoot very well, you don't know if that high or low shot was you or the gun. I think this applies to shooting f-clas or hunting.
Great discussion. I really wish more hunters would spend the time to use their software instead of just their hardware.
Love this video, I have seen videos with guys taking big game at 800 or 1200 yards but they only show perfect kill shots not the shot where they shoot one through the guts and it runs off to be lost! When hunters watch these shots they may assume with modern hardware you can shoot game at 1000 yards? If I shot a big game animal at extreme range I would not be bragging about it, I would be ashamed!
This podcast is getting better and better.the Information given out today should be a eye opener for alot of people.one of the biggest lessons today was get out and practice and be aware.its extremely unethical to buy a super long range rifle .take it out once or twice and think your qualified to shoot beyond250 yds.your not.ihave a imposed limit of 300 yds and I'm a much better hunter because of that.im going to go one step further. How much money do we spend on getting the lightest rifle possible. How easy,inexpensive ,and healthy is it to lose 10lbs.more weight than most rifles.god bless you Ron and Mr Cortina .thanks for the great info
Best one you both have done
Very good episode!
Nice podcast. Thanks for the information guys.
This was great!
Amazing wealth of knowledge between two shooters I respect. Awesome discussion
AWESOME!
Great interview.
Great video!
Thank you for the knowledge
Ice job Ron and Erik
I grew up with a wise man who said "never take a shot at game that your not 100% sure you can make"
Good video. Good info.
where I shoot, we get a land, sea, change. Walk in set up The wind is behind me. In the course ; of a session
Erik’s self imposed limit is 600 yards? Two years ago he was trying to get a 1,000 yard whitetail kill on video. He set up 1,000 yards from the feeder. What changed? 🤔
Experience from trying
@@ngallakp62 I don’t think he ever had a shot.
Great video. Good luck Eric in Africa
I stopped trophy hunting 20 yrs ago.i left my model 70 supergrade in 7mm rem mag for a model 54 win in 3006 with a lyman target sight.here recently I bought a 120 year old savage model 99 carbine in 303savage .basically a twin of the 3030.it too has a tang sight and is capable of taking any elk out to 225 yds.cow elk are much better eating and are much easier to kill then a rutting bull even a small one.i will stay with my 54 for mulies as they may present a much longer shot .mountains of nm
Yes, that's fun actually
There was a time as a y0ung man on my Regimental Rifle Team when I shot 1000 yds. At that time, I also shot game at a maximum of 600yds. I'm now 60. I still shoot plenty to be ready for hunting, but I have dropped my maximum range to 400 yds. Most of my ranges are simply MPBR because it's easier. However, I have trajectory tables taped to the rifle stock with the number of clicks I need to come up to 400 yd zero.
I like to find my hunting spots early, and I pick an appropriate rifle for it. That might be a .30-06, a .303Br, or even a .30-30. I then shoot 100 rds with that rifle at various positions out to the max range I'll be using in my spot.
I think you two should do this once or twice a year.
Charles Greer shot a 2.8125” 10rd group at 1000yrds with .300wsm n Borden action,krieger barrel,McMillan stock,Berger bullets…2/13/21 which is/was the record
Great content Ron I’m a hunter not much into shooting long range thanks can’t eat paper haha
You should bring him back and ask about rifle break in and rifle cleaning if it effects accuracy
Just got back from the range. My 308 Ruger American just poked out a clover leaf at 100.yds. with a 150 gr. SST
Reload at 2780 fps. C.0.L. is 2.797, rem, large rifle primers, and 46 gr. IMR 4064.
Wind was a quarter value out of my 10 o clock. All three rounds went inside of a nickel, and touching, for a single jagged little hole, it's been very rewarding to get the results that I have transversed over hill and Dale to get.
Semper Fi.
Those Ruger can shoot for the $$
I like off hand shooting. I have tried to practice on a really windy day. Nope, it was beyond my ability to adapt.
Maybe you can come up with a max point blank distinct that adds the wind drift into it too. See if lighter faster bullet better or if heavier still wins out