Josh Pate On Wild College Football Playoff Scenarios (Late Kick Cut)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- The College Football Playoff picture has one more weekend left before it's set for good, and with the Committee releasing their rankings right before the show Tuesday night Josh Pate took time on Thursday night's Late Kick Live Ep 459 to react. What would it take for Alabama to get in over a team like Oregon if it comes down to a pure head-to-head debate? Will we see Texas punch their ticket with an emphatic win Saturday? How will FSU fare? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Late Kick Josh you are soo wrong my friend. Bama should beat out Texas. You are hanging your hat on a week 2 win. Week 2 wins even if it’s head to head doesn’t matter next to a conference championship. Well you say Texas can win a conference championship yeah but against a 9-3 team. Texas is the only one playing a 9-3 team for a Conference championship that’s weak. Every other team left standing that can get in is playing a higher ranked team. Michigan beat Ohio State Already. That’s too signature of a win. If Bama beats UGA it’s too much of a signature win to ignore in a conference championship game against a team that threatens to three peat and change history. It’s unfortunate for Texas but it’s the truth and what’s actually right. I’ll take Oregon over Texas too becasue they can beat a team ranked in the top 3 late. Texas hasn’t and can’t beat a team in the top 4 remaining and everybody else can and that’s gotta count way more than a week 2 head to head. My argument is sound. They also lost to their Rival. Texas hasn’t shown as a program they belonged. I’ll say it again Bama and UGA have never lost a Semi Final Play off game. We know what to expect late from them and that’s a fact based on history it’s set in stone. You can’t say judge now if we judge now beating UGa is best win in the Ckuntry you should jump to #1 realistically.
And this is why a 12 team playoff came a year too late. Too many really good teams this year. Either way, people are gonna be in an uproar.
and chances are next year will be like nearly every previous year of the 4 team system, where there are really only 1-3 teams with any real shot at winning it all.
You're a mindless drone, this playoff BUSINESS is going to ruin college football
30 years to late
Win your conference championship and you got nothing to worry about. That IS the playoff game. The 12 team playoff is a total joke.
@@spartanspeedruns8386 And the uproar begins lol
Best thing about this video is that Ohio State wasn't mentioned at all.
Yeah they are dicked, doesn't matter who loses
No shit, bucks getting any love is a joke at this time...
Really! Ohio State lost by 6 points to the #3 team, Michigan on the road, when Ohio State was #2, at the time! No loses are good, but has to be the best one loss of anyone in America!
@@jeffreyleohner3247 yes really. Of course a team incapable of beating Michigan and its lame fans want a 12 team playoff! But yes irrelevant completely. Shhhhhhh
@@jeffreyleohner3247 and that is actually the number 1 team beating the number 3 team in reality. So stop already loser
This is why I am looking forward to the 12 team playoffs.
I don't! Are you serious?! Can't be unless you enjoy watching crappy football! Dumbest comment ever!
I’m happy about the 12 team playoff! I’m an Ohio State fan, disagree with this guy that Florida State is better than Ohio State! Really! They barely beat a mediocre Boston College team by 3 points! Ohio State lost to Michigan by 6 points, at Michigan , #3 at the time! 🌰🏈
@@jeffreyleohner3247 be quiet, you and your team are completely irrelevant.....bla bla bla
I think it should be 6 or 8
What I struggle with is a team sitting on the couch on conference championship weekend and still managing to get into a 4 team playoff. Next year all bets are off with the 12 team
Yep, and that will happen every single year during the 12 team format. 8 was the absolute max it should’ve expanded to, but sadly money wins as always.
I agree, the format is weird. It appears teams eventually ranked 5-8 (losers of their conference championship) will have to constantly play on while those eventually ranked 9-12 get a bye week during conference championship games, because they probably aren’t playing in those games.
Not putting in the most deserving is dumb af. We should just skip the regular season and handpick who we “think” is the best.
So here we have a disconnect between all the undefeated's playing a SOS in the 50's, and the #5-8 ranked teams with 1 loss *because* they play a schedule in the top 20 in SOS. That loss came from having to play a real college football schedule, and in my mind, that 1 loss team playing a SOS of 15 is the better quality team.
Undefeated against a schedule that's a SOS of 39 or 91 is cheap.
That was the old system pre BCS. That’s why it used to be called the mythical national championship.
Where are these domes in the ACC footprint you speak of? Atlanta is spoken for, so what are the other options? (Please don’t say Syracuse or St. Pete)
If Washington beats Oregon again, then I would say that Washington is the better team, regardless of Vegas odds. Playing on paper vs on the field can yield different results. If they played a 3rd time, I would bet the house on Oregon because, in football, it is hard to be an opponent three times in one season.
Still unsure why everyone is saying this is why we need 12. We have 4 P5 undefeateds going into CCG week! If you’re at the hands of the committee, it’s YOUR fault for losing a game!
reality is one loss teams get in every year. this year will probably not be an exception
If Texas wins tomorrow they should be in, 100%
Even if the top 4 teams win and finish the season undefeated? I don't think so.
If uga and fsu win they don’t get in. You need bama to win
@@Robert-Italy hope you enjoy watching Texas in the CFP 😂
Texas would be favored over Bama because they would still dominate both lines of scrimmage as they did on Bama's home field. They won by 10 on the road a neutral sight...
Since everybody does not play the same schedule there will always be ambiguity.
Georgia v Texas
Michigan v Washington
A ‘fun’ hypothetical I’m debating is
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Florida State
Texas or Oregon?
Probably Oregon because they rank higher plus they beat a top 3 ranked team. But Texas would be beyond pissed off 😂
@@NLGabriel75 the odds of Oregon actually winning tho
Texas over Oregon for sure
Oregon
Oregon. They would have the better loss (to a higher ranked opponent and on the road) and the better best win (against 12-0 opponent ranked 3rd).
I don't understand how it couldn't make sense to anyone that Bama should get in over Texas if the both win Saturday. The Texas win over Bama happened 3 months ago. Bama will have just beaten the #1 team in the nation while Texas's best win all year will have been the Bama win 3 months ago. Nothing else even in the top 15. Meanwhile Bama will also have a good win over Ole Miss on the record as well (granted that was nearly 3 months ago as well).
I just don't see how Bama would not leap frog Texas on the strength of a victory against Georgia.
I totally agree that there's not gonna be 2 SEC teams. Is it possible considering where Ohio State is right now that there could be 2 Big 10 teams?
No
OSU and Mich both lost in first round last year why repeat that
Don't people want more interesting non conference games? Michigan is being rewarded for playing high school teams in the non con whereas Alabama, Texas, Oregon, Washington and hell Georgia are all being punished for playing actually tough schedules.
Have you looked at strength of schedule lol Georgia isn’t much higher than Michigan
Didn't Alabama just play a high school team 2 weeks ago? Good luck telling me where Chattanooga is on a map without looking it up
Agreed. The schedules the top 4 played are laughable.
@@mikemccabe8015 Everybody plays a high school team or two. It's the rest of the schedule that matters.
Have you looked at the big 12 conference? It's as high school as it gets.
The BEST game will be the SEC Championship game. Then after all games are played well have 1)Mich 2)Bama 3) Oregon 4) Georgia. Which will give us a 2nd Bama/GA game!!
What ever happened to you don't lose late in the season.
12 team playoff will solve it all
Ok not for this year since there are only 4 teams advancing to playoffs but in the future when it’s the 12 teams playoff scenario.
Ok this year also quick disclaimer I’m not a liberty fan but anyways they are undefeated they also haven’t competed against anyone either. So for a moment let’s pretend that this year is the 12 team playoffs (it’s actually 4) anyways I would have liberty compete against #12 kinda like a qualifying round. Winner advances to the playoffs.
So basically have whatever team is undefeated but not in the top 12 compete against the 12th ranking team. Now this be after the division championship and before the playoffs.
Oregon is better than Bama and Texas.
Georgia 38-24 Bama
Michigan 42-13 Iowa
Washington 35-28 Oregon
FSU 21-17Louisville
Texas 42-28 OKS
The problem when you’re trying to compare all these teams is many of them don’t have any common opponents or maybe 1 at most. It’s comparing apples to oranges. It’s like saying Georgia is better than the New England Patriots because they look better against the opponents they’ve played than the Patriots have against the teams they’ve played
common opponents is irrelevant
Bro is crazy thinking if the back the back champions get dethroned and they still get to get in? Goofy
If the sec gets left out, then the two best teams in the nation wouldn’t make the playoff.
Alabama is the one of two best teams in the nation but lost to Texas?
What if the top four teams lose in their Conference Championships?
That ain't happening but it would be kind of fun. All teams in the top 8 would have one loss. I'd pick from that group based on the teams I'd least want to play which would be Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, and Texas.
By CFP committee logic, the 4 “best” teams by roster (247 blue chip ratio) were Bama, Georgia, Ohio state, and Texas A&M.
Wait a minute… why aren’t the Aggies #4 then? Their roster was 4th best! Oh right, it’s because of merit and not being deserving. CFP committee are hypocrites!
Texas is better than Bama… they beat the mm head to head at BAMA. If Texas wins… they have to be in over Bama no matter what happens in the SEC championship
As a Texas fan I'm trying to be objective and not subjective. I believe that if you give Texas 4 weeks to prepare for any matchup in the country, they win. I think Sark can game plan an opponent better than anyone in the country, given time. I do not think they are the best team in the country week in and week out by even a stretch of my imagination. I do believe they can show up any given Saturday and best anyone in the country. If Texas by some slim chance, sneaks into the playoff, I think they stand a great chance of winning because of Sark's ability to game plan, not because I actually think they're better. Just my take.
Ain't college football fun.
You sold out. You have had Oregon all along
Why aren’t you bringing up the fact that Alabama Loss is better then Texas’s loss. They lost to a now 2 loss Oklahoma team ranked 12 when Alabama lost to 7 ranked Texas. I think everyone listening to this would agree if they played right now Alabama beats Texas probably by 2 scores. Jalen Milrom is a completely different player not to mention Alabama’s secondary is playing at a completely different level. Alabamas loss is better then Texas’s loss. If Alabama does the u thinkable to me the top 4 should be 1. Michigan 2. Alabama 3. Georgia 4. Oregon or Texas whoever if they win by the larger margin. There’s no way if it’s the best FOUR teams u leave Alabama and Georgia out if Alabama wins. There both in. Washington will get blown up by Georgia we saw that with the TCU joke last year when Alabama was left out. Florida state is out no matter what. They lost Jordan Travis that’s like the lakers losing Lebron that’s how important he is to that team
Brillant take LOL. Bet you said Bama would demolish Texas back in Sept. how did that work out. Sure you thought Bama was going to kill Texas the year before as well. Reality is Texas controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and would beat Bama by a couple of scores again
They should've learned their lesson from TCU.
Look at the horrible ratings the last Natty drew.
Louisville winning can save of from seeing an FSU massacre in a semifinal.
Who gives af about ratings? Also, TCU beat 13-0 Michigan to go to the national title.
TCU beat Mich so Michigan should get left out right?
What a mess this could be, gonna be complaining any way it goes.
All 4 undefeated teams win is the "no complaining" path.
Not if Georgia wins...Louisville wins. Texas, Michigan and Oregon. 90% of the ppl would be happy lol. Cause it be Georgia Texas Michigan and Oregon.
@@notpoliticaljustarealist3969then that’s not all the undefeateds winning?
lol ain’t that the truth
@@notpoliticaljustarealist3969 it should make for an interesting Saturday
Glad the 12 team playoff is coming. Yes, we will squabble about the 12-14 teams but it won't matter. 3-5? It really matters!
If Alabama beats Georgia they will finish 12-1....same record as Georgia 12-1. Bama gets in because they beat Georgia head to head. But to Alabama supporters that logic does not apply to Texas assuming they win Saturday and finish 12-1 and hold a head to head win over Bama. Have to call B.S on that thinking. Texas should get the spot.
Thinking that Texas is better than UGA is delusional at best.
@@martinmccormick2166read again
@@martinmccormick2166 heard that in 2018, also before Bama game hasn't been right so far
This cascade effect is *the best proof of concept* for the expanded playoff.
I love talking about that whole Bama, Texas, Oregon scenario, it’s fascinating. I like Bama, but I have not heard anyone of my friends saying Alabama gets in over a one loss Texas. That’s absurd. Texas beat Alabama.
The entire 4 best teams alone concept is something that I agree with - but the we can’t all magically know who the best are. Who’s to say Michigan in 2007 was better than Appalachian state? We play the games to find out who is the best. It shocked us all, but in that game, Appalachian state was the best team.
The fact is, we use the games to determine who the best is. If you win your games, then that shows you are pretty good
even more so is Oregon is currently 2 spots ahead of Texas If #5 Oregon beats #3 Washington there's no way Texas jumps over Oregon when they're playing #18 okst
If Alabama gets in Texas absolutely gets in as well if they beat OK state. I honestly think Georgia gets left out if they lose
@@seanmcmechan3424 There's a considerable distance between Oregon and Texas as the committee has it now. If Alabama jumps all the way to 3 or 4 Oregon still would have to beat #3 Washington while Texas plays #18. Texas win over Bama wouldn't be any better than Oregon beating #3 Washington. Why would the committee make the head to head win over Alabama more valuable than Oregon beating #3 given that Oregon is already ahead? They've already factored in that Texas beat Alabama and still have Oregon at #5"and that's not factoring in a win over #3 on Friday
Sean: I’m not saying you’re wrong but that would be a damn shame to leave Georgia out.
Michigan this year is the Exact counter to your argument. Michigan has played 1 decent team all year.
The real question is what would occur if every team is 11-1.
Stupid. Comment period, who cares about shit that wont happen. FFS
Conference Champions being so devalued is criminal. Being a champion and earning the hardware needs to mean something again
It always has. I am sure it will this year also, despite that bozo's comments.
If the conferences were equal, yes. The conferences are not equal. The SEC and Big10 are fairly equal this year. The Pac12 is third best (for the first time in a decade). The Big12 is close in fourth. The ACC, though, was mostly garbage this year. Outside of Florida State, there are really no outstanding teams. Louisville just lost to Kentucky, a middle of the pack SEC team.
Except there are title games with heavily lopsided sides.
@@EulogyfortheAngelsthat’s a function of having lopsided divisions. If BIG10 didn’t have divisions, we would have a UM/OSU in the championship game. If Pac12 still had divisions, one of OU/UW would be left out of the championship game and eliminated. I’m glad that all conferences are eliminating divisions so that the two best teams aren’t kept from meeting in the championship because they’re in the same division
@@VinnyKnucklesit won’t matter next year.
The committee does put in the 4 "Best" teams. What the committee is alluding to is that it's based on W/L record of a Power 5 conference team.
Yup, it's been that every single year.
So then by that logic liberty is a better team than alabama?
@@ImChazo lol no, actually read his comment before you reply next time🙄🙄
Complete BS if you ask me
A 12-team playoff is looking really good this year.
Would be lot of interest this year. Wish it had already changed to 12 teams.
@@robertd98506-12 would be blown out. The only teams worthy are bama, uga, texas, michigan, OSU, Washington. The rest are mere pretenders. 12 teams is a farce and about nothing but money.
8-team sounds better though
You keep hearing that Bama should be in over Texas because you are watching ESPN who is partnered with the SEC and has been absolutely blatantly biased toward them for a decade. Also, as far as whether FSU is one of the "best" four teams...if there has been a team in college football who is better than them, it hasn't been found yet. They have zero losses. Nobody who steps on the field is as good as they are, and until someone beats them, you don't KNOW if they are better. You might THINK they are. But you don't know. I KNOW Texas was better than Bama when they kicked their butts in Bama's own stadium. I KNOW Washington was better than Oregon. I don't KNOW a single team better than FSU and neither do you.
Finally someone who makes sense!!!
If UGA and Michigan win
And FSU and Texas lose
OSU gets in 4th spot
Winner of Oregon and Washington is 3rd spot
Probably correct. It would be awesome to have a Michigan vs OSU national championship.
Probably...although Texas losing is only slightly more likely than Iowa beating Michigan.
Since Texas won Georgia would have to devour Alabama to make that Texas win over Alabama look less valuable. Y’all have to understand Alabama is still talked highly of as if they’re still in the top 5 why do you think that is. Because of their past and what theyre expected off. I’m sorry but it’s not Alabamas generation anymore. It’s Georgia Michigan and Ohio state no one wants to face them. Head to head right now Ohio state is beating Alabama. Head to head Michigan is beating Alabama. If Georgia doesn’t play like yall are their little brother today and actually put it on yall it’s not gonna be like the last two seasons. Alabama has slipped up this year against teams they should’ve handled easily. A win is a win but against these top teams you can’t be playing catch up with them because they will eat you alive. Head to head Texas isn’t beat Georgia or ohio state maybe can beat Michigan in a close one but even Oregon and Washington can give them a run for their money.
Idk why osu isn't in this convo at all. ESPN fpi is giving them a 52% chance of weaseling in there
Grown men still in camera crying about fsu is wild
FSU sucks. 224 yards vs a bad Florida team
Who are gonna be florida coach replacements ...please help us find out!
I love the hate on FSU like we don't have history but let it had been Clemson undefeated you wouldn't hear a thing were both in the ACC last I checked... Like Bobby Bowden use to say we will play anybody anywhere gosh darn it.. Go Noles finish for 13!!!
Sir I’m here to eat crow. I’ve ridiculed this man all year because he picked the OSU cowboys to be in the BIG 12 Championship game. I believe I even called him a moron. As an OU fan I APOLOGIZE. IM OBVIOUSLY-THE MORON. well done sir ❤️🤍💙
There is no debate between Alabama and Texas who gets in. Every higher level does head to head win percentage because that matters. It doesn’t matter when they play. What matters is who beat who when they played. Too bad if they changed towards the end of the seasons. Texas beat Alabama at HOME soundingly
AGREED. Can't believe people are actually dismissing that game like it never even happened
You want in you don’t lose. Period. Case closed. It’s all speculation dude. Just because Vegas puts a # on something doesn’t mean they’re right. I prove them wrong all the time.
Using SOS based on opponents record is kind of...wrong? Chattanooga who Bama beat is 8-4. North Alabama who FSU beat is 3-8. Obviously you would think Chattanooga is a better team, except North Alabama beat Chattanooga this season head-to-head. Just an example of how easy the stat line is to be very misleading.
Ppl are saying bama is better than Texas even though Texas won. Same can apply here. Don't do for one and not the other. But longhorns would win. Dont matter🤘🤘🤘
If bama and texas win i think you have to look at their losses also. Bama lost early to a 1 loss top 10 conference champ, Texas lost mid season to a team outside of the top 10 that finished with 2 losses and no appearance in their conference title.
Josh, Josh, Josh. Oregon would be in over Texas, period. The rankings clearly show this. Why in the world would Texas suddenly jump Oregon after Oregon beats the current #3 ranked team, and Texas beats Okie St.?
2 reasons. 1. Washing and Oregon’s strength of schedule is weak. 2. If Alabama beats Georgia then Texas beat the best team in the game.
@@JaicobFeliz The strength of schedule, and the Texas win over Alabama, is already factored into the current rankings. Not only do they have Oregon ranked ahead of them despite this (like they consistently have all along), but they have Ohio State behind Oregon and above Texas. The committee could not be making their views any more clear. With these final games being the only remaining variable, there is a 0% chance that Oregon directly beating the current #3 team in the rankings would be offset by, let alone superseded by, Texas beating a terrible Oklahoma St. team and getting a marginal indirect boost from an Alabama win.
@@VinnyKnuckles we will see very soon enough. You think bama beating an undefeated team is a marginal win for Texas? Georgia could very well drop out of top 4 with a loss to Bama.
Common opponent this year - Texas Tech. One team barely won, the other blew Tech away. Outside of head-to-head, that's a solid tie-breaker. Texas should be ahead of Oregon already.
You have ran me off
Ganna miss this discussion next year 😢
Hahahahahah, there will be almost as much discussion about teams 11-14.
I love Josh Pate, but it sure seems like he favors teams with the biggest fan bases.
So, what's the scenario if Georgia, Michigan, and Washington all lose but FSU, Oregon, Texas, and Alabama all win?
Does FSU get to #1 being the only undefeated P5 conference champion? Texas #2, Oregon #3, and Bama #4? Does an idle Ohio State move up instead of Bama or Oregon?
That would prob be Oregon , Bama. Texas Florida state or Georgia going
yeh
FSU would still be the 4 seed.
Imo, the sec champ is in no matter what. Same with the pac 12.
I enjoy these debates, they’re fun hypotheticals. Allow me to pushback on that a little bit:
Sec champ Georgia & Pac 12 champ Washington? ✅
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Washington
4. Florida State
All undefeated power 5 champs, all get in, R.I.P. Texas.
Pac 12 champ Washington and Sec champ Alabama? ❌
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Florida State
4. Texas.
Texas is bogging Alabama down. Both would be power 5 one loss champions with great wins. Texas simply just has the head to head.
Pac 12 Champion Oregon and Sec champ Alabama? ❌
This one requires lots of thought, but
1. Michigan
2. Florida State
3.
4.
5.?
In the 3 way battle, the only school that cannot be left out is Big 12. Texas. To leave out Alabama, putting in Oregon and Texas? I wouldn’t but that is acceptable.
And that means the theory of both pac 12 and Sec getting in is facing some problems.
Leaving out Oregon and putting in Alabama and Texas? It would upset the west coast, but would be acceptable. This also is some trouble to the theory of both Pac 12 and Sec getting in.
Leaving out Texas and putting in Alabama who has a loss to Texas and Oregon? Impossible.
Hence, I conclude that by saying if there was the pac 12 champ Oregon and Sec champ Alabama then I think the theory won’t happen.
The way that the theory is accurate is if Georgia wins. It would also help if Washington wins because imagine having to do a 1v1 comparison between Texas and Oregon. Boy, that would be a headache.
@@AJthe13thWhy is Texas the one who can't be left out? Oregon is currently 2 spots ahead of Texas according to the committee. If Alabama wins and moves to 3 or 4 that improves Texas win over Bama However if Texas beats #18 okst and Oregon beats #3 Washington, Oregon is even farther ahead of Texas.Why should Texas head to head over Alabama mean more to the committee than Oregon themselves beating #3 when the committee already has Oregon put Oregon ahead of Texas?
@@Robert-fs6gethey beat alabama by double digits in tuscaloosa. u can’t put bama in and leave texas out bc of the head to head. if that happens there wouldn’t be any point of playing each other. that’s how texas can’t be left out if bama wins.
I disagree. If Michigan, Washington, FSU, and Texas all win and Georgia loses, I think Michigan goes to #1, Washington to #2, FSU to #3, and Texas to #4. I think Alabama would jump to #5, Ohio State would remain at #6.
Why would Alabama leap Texas when both would be 13-1, both would be conference champions, but Texas beat Bama head to head?
@@trclark7689 the win over uga evens out the loss to texas
I want to see #1 Georgia vs #4 Texas and #2 Michigan vs #3 Oregon. All of these teams and Louisville need to win.
That could very well be how it shakes out.
Georgia and maybe Michigan does not need Louisville. They are rooting for FSU to win to get an easier path to the Title game.
JP when the dust settles Georgia will b the top dawg!!!
This year is a good example of why I think 8 teams is ideal. Just take a look at the top 8 and tell me that wouldn’t be an awesome playoff picture.
I agree. 8 is enough. Even with that, there will be blowouts. The sad thing is, 3 to 4 years from now 12 won’t be enough and they’ll start looking at expanding it again. Look at what it’s done to the MLB. Watching 2 wildcard teams play for the championship may be exciting for their fan bases, but it devalues winning during the regular season.
The Horns are being soooo disrespected. Committee CONTINUES to D ride the big 10, WHY?! Michigan and Ohio St continue to under preform when the lights shine brightest. We beat Bama on the road which NO ONE does. Oregon played such a weak schedule that it’s laughable that they are ranked where they are with their 35 year old QB. Hook’em horns. 🤘🏽🐂
What are you expecting to happen? Remove an undefeated Big10 champ Michigan to put the longhorns in? No shot lol
Now tell us all how gruelling and definitely not shit the Big 12 has been this year. Be grateful that Alabama is still better than the rest of the SEC west to make up for Oklahoma being pathetic and a badly aging win every week that passes.
I just wish Michigan had played a team outside of Ohio State that even had a pulse… My God I can’t wait until those PAC 12 teams transfer into the big 10. From an offensive perspective it’s gunna be like cave men seeing a car for the first time
Texas or Alabama is better than Oregon
Yeah buddy, the Horns are being disrespected because they're left out in a scenario where there's 4 undefeated teams. Maybe Texas should have handled Oklahoma when they had the chance.
Weather is SUPPOSED to be a factor in football. All these dome stadiums are total bullshit.
Did I miss that in the rule book football games are supposed to be played in crappy weather? The majority of fans want to see games where the best teams win not some ridiculous snow bowl
@@JJ-qh5dn Young, dumb and weak. Good to know.
Exactly how many "snow bowls" have you seen at the LA Coliseum or the Rose Bowl? How much snow falls at the Gator Bowl?
If your team is bad enough to play in the Motor City Bowl in Detroit, maybe you earned freezing your ass off.
I said weather was supposed to be a factor, not that it was supposed to be played in 3 feet of snow.
It's always been most deserving. Ohio State would be favored over anyone not named Georgia or Michigan so it's not about the best
@LateKickwithJoshPate I’m a West Coast warrior that lives in Texas, so my question to you is, if Georgia & Alabama played in this years PAC 12 would either team be undefeated? I know you do your own power ratings, so could you do that with the other conferences too? Home and away…
I’ll answer that, yes! Both would have been. Washington would not have went undefeated in the SEC, but I think they would have in the Big 10 and 12.
@@g.holland4862 you don’t know shit about football! 🙄
Also I feel like people's power rankings or regular rankings are not being consistent with strength of schedule arguments. Some people are choosing the rank of those defeats from earlier in the season than the rank of those defeats as of this moment in the season.
Example, Notre Dame is NOT the #9 ranked team anymore from early rankings against OSU. Should they have won that game? Heck yes, defense on the last drive was stupid. But now they are currently 17th. There is an obvious difference in a top 10 versus top 20 win. Analysts need to be consistent with this and be clear about it.
MIZZOU!
If Bama somehow wins....FSU wins, Texas wins, Oregon wins........Bama will be placed 5th. This committee would leave the SEC out knowing its the last 4 team playoff.
Bama wants Texas and FSU to lose. In that scenario, if they win vs Georgia, they'll be in 100%. Georgia would probably also be in even with a loss there.
In that same scenario of Texas and FSU losing and Georgia beats Bama, then who do you have at #4? Georgia, Michigan, PAC-12 champ would be in. I think it would be Ohio State
How is no one talking about how the SEC could be left out altogether? Here me out: Bama beats Georgia, leaving both 12-1. Michigan, Washington, FSU, and Texas all win. Texas beat Bama at Bama so they're in over Bama. Bama beat Georgia so Georgia has 1 loss with no conference title. The result would be
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. FSU
4. Texas
I believe they will qualify "best" with conference title. Bama wins, they are in, and UGA is out. Washington upsets will make it easier for them, but when Oregon wins it will mean the final four will be Michigan, SEC Champ, Pac-2 Champ, and BIG 12 Champ if it is Texas. Texas loses, then you get FSU if they win.... Oh wow, this is tough...
So the scenario would be:
Alabama: probably 6 uga, 11 ole miss, 13 lsu, 21 Tennessee. Only loss to top 4 Texas
Oregon: probably 7 Washington, 20 Oregon state, only loss to Washington
These resumes aren’t even close. Alabama has two extra top 15 wins and has just ended a 29 game win streak. Oregon gets in because of margin of victory over Utah and Colorado? Or what?
If Bama was in there would be zero complaints from anyone. CFP IS ALL ABOUT BAMA. Lets stop all games and put Bama #1 every year and be done with it.
Results on the field matter or convenient to circumstances? Georgia lost 41-24 in sec champship in 2021, but beat Al 33-18 in national championship. Here is my problem, lets say al beats Georgia again in sec champship today, it didn't mean there better, past shows us that. Head to head for just one game to me is an illusion, anything can happen in one game betwen two" great" teams. Unless bama beats uga line 75-0, i do nt see how uga should be left out, again uga consistently all year looked and played better than bama.
Why Josh do you think Alabama “deserves to be in” because they are one of the best 4 teams??!!
Have you watched them this season? Texas beat them, at HOME. USF played even with them. Auburn had them beat. The rest of their schedule was lousy.
They have not looked close to a dominant team. And they haven’t been.
Such a terrible take.
I see an Oregon team that is 3-1 against the 66th ranked SOS ranked higher than a Bama team that is 3-1 against the 3rd ranked SOS. Where is this supposed “SEC bias”? It must have gone away to wherever common-sense for the CFP has fled.
GA loses a close game they are in.
Michigan In
Oregon/Wash In
Assuming FSU loses.
Texas is In, because of the head to head against AL, and the fact that bama is sitting at 8 and that's too much ground to make up.
Alabama sis not one of the 4 best teams. The 4 best teams are, in no particular order, UGA, MI, OSU, and ORE. To go from further, Texas is better, and I think Washington is better than Bama too.
They would favor Oregon over Alabama because this is the last time a Pac-10 (12?) champ has a chance to play in the natty. That conference evaporates in January. Sentimental choice!
Because of the head-to-head with Texas, Alabama is not getting in....that's the bottom line. Even if Bama wins the SEC championship, they'll be left out.
Yall do realize if they did a 12 team
Playoff this year it would only consist of big10 and sec teams. I don’t get why some of yall sec teams are salty. Yes the Sec has some dawgs damn near yall whole conference is but it’s not consistent yall only have 2 consistent teams. The big ten has had 3 teams in the top 10 for the past 3-4 years if im not wrong. The big 10 are y’all’s little brother yes I will give you that but man don’t disrespect us like we haven’t fought a war against yall. Come that 12 team playoff next year it will consist literally only sec teams and big 10 teams if we’re going based off the teams joining the different conferences already. Them sec boys gonna be real mad when that sec conference gets exposed
It goes based off the 4 best teams. I get the conference championship is supposed to mean something but honestly it’s another game. Just because Texas won today doesn’t make them better than Ohio state or Oregon at the moment. Yeah you won against team in your conference that was 9-3 but how are you gonna stack up against a team that’s not. Ohio state lost against the 3rd best team at the time when they were the 2nd best team Oregon lost to the 3rd best team when they were the 5th best team. Cool a win over a ranked team is great but you beat a team that is barely holding it rank week by week. The only teams that should be consider for that fourth spot if fsu losses is Ohio state and Oregon and tbh yes I’m a Ohio state fan but in my opinion now you gotta bring in strength of schedule which Ohio state is 11th with more cfp top-25 wins. Oregon also lost twice against the team that would already be in the playoffs. I’m sorry but this year Alabama isn’t beating the teams that are currently in front of them. Especially if they lose today. Head to head at the moment Ohio state has the most fire behind them and definitely shouldn’t be taken lightly. Please remember how big that game was. It wasn’t a “normal game” that was a playoff level atmosphere and couldn’t have been played better. If you ask me the top 10 teams right now are Georgia ,Michigan ,Ohiostate Washington ,texas,fsu ,Oregon Alabama penn state and Missouri . FSU is 6th because you have to consider qb situation. Depending how well they play today depends on their spot but if they hat their starting qb than I have no problem with fsu being in that top 4
Would have been nice if Auburn didn't sell their soul in 2013 to make it to the MNC. Then Auburn would have just stopped Bama on 4th and 2,475 this season and there would be much less of a debate now.
Bama shouldn’t get in simply because they needed a miracle to beat a 6 win Auburn team that lost one week prior by 3 touchdowns to NMST. I don’t care if they beat Georgia. If Texas, Oregon, Michigan, and FSU all win, that should be your 4. The debate then should really be against FSU, but bama should’ve lost to 6-6 Auburn. FSU would never 🤷🏻♂️
@@m1ke1991💯 and ugay struggled with GA Tech. The bees ran the ball down their throat. They want to point out FSu weakness and it goes both ways
Stop exaggerating! It was not 4th and 2475. It was 4th and 1826.
@@cutime6712the game never being in doubt with the majority of your starters staying out? Thats struggling?
@BB-ce5ev 😆 majority did majority was out against the struggle against the gamecocksts and Auburn? Well I guess it's safe to say is that New Mexico State is better than Ugay and Bama if we gonna play the hypothetical game since they dismembered Auburn at their place🙄
I am grateful you were wrong about Washington! Everyone keeps hating on the Huskies, yet they keep winning. Go Dawgs!!!
When does strength of schedule come into play? Hasn’t SoS always been a factor in the CFP selection process, or was that just a CFP Committee escape hatch?
Y’all just glean over how Alabama needed a 4th and 31 to avoid a loss last week. Oh it’s just the rivalry no big deal…. WHAT
If GA loses they either move ga to 4 or bama to 4 there's no way the winner of the best conference gets left out anybody who thinks that is just praying an sec team is left out so the playoffs are more interesting. U think a 1 loss Texas jumps ahead of a team that hasn't lost in 2 yrs bc they beat #19 😭. (Not a fan of either)
All the people in the know said Washington wasn’t one of the best. Too many close game to lesser teams. Oregon was going to boat race them. The games have to get played. Teams win close games bc they can. Keep writing off FSU. Go noles.
playoff should have been the 5 conference champs and 1 at large. one of the better teams didnt make it? shouldve won your conference championship. that was your playoff game.
They decide based on pre determined criteria, and whatever they decide is how the final ranking order is calculated.
You’re just another guy with a mic and a laptop adding your opinion to millions of random fans.
Went from Michigan against the world to Florida state quick. But hey...
Where else could the ACC play their championship in a domed stadium? Syracuse? New Orleans?
Whats funny is all these sports analyst are basing FSU on one game without JT against their biggest rival away in a hostile environment in which they covered the spread with a backup. Tates not JT but he doesnt have to be to be on the best team in CFB and win a title.
What about strength of schedule? Alabama has a tougher one than some of these other teams combined. And if they beat Georgia that is even more the case. And a win over #1 ranked team trumps the three month head to head victory Texas has over Alabama.
Be a lesson to you. Stop playing in weak conferences. Bama beat the consensus #1 for two years. Who did you beat .
I don’t know how you keep out uga, bama, or Texas. FSU sucks, we all know it.
Bama is not winning. You'll honestly think Bama is going to win, Michigan is in, Washington, or Oregon is in on whoever wins, Florida is in if they win, and texas gets in when Bama loses
The claim by Bill Hancock that the committee does not and will not consider the most deserving teams, and instead is looking to determine the four best teams, is simply a lie. That’s not how the committee has acted in the past and there’s just no way they’re going to do it this year.
" I was wrong, and as is usually the case, I wasn't actually wrong." Josh Pate is wrong all the time and is a narcissist.
Here after oregon loss, just waiting on texas, bama, and fsu to lose so Ohio state can creep back in :)