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It definitely seems short....BUT it makes it SO much easier to determine if a card is playable simply by a small character. It's easier to say "all A and B sets are out" rather than having a list of the previous six sets and guessing what cards are in them and if someone is lying. AND I love that if a card is reprinted, then ALL previous cards can be played. Brilliant
Rotation is absolutely necessary, the alternative is endless powercreep and bannings. From a game design perspective alone it is completely justifiable. Plus, for everyone crying about how Spark would take so many building blocks with it, by the time rotation happens we'll have more sets, and they can put replacements in those, and it's also desirable to not always have the same effects all the time, the game needs to change from time to time. I also like that it's always 4 to 6 sets, almost like Magic used to do, I hate what they did with the whole 3 years standard, not to mention the stupidity of making UB a part of standard sets.
It’s absolutely ridiculous since the game is so new. We can understand it with something as huge as MTG, but we’re on set 3 and they’re talking about rotation already. It’s the exact same as MTG rotation getting rid of the last 3 sets. Surely removing sets is for a balance issue, since it takes their staff a ton of time trying to work out broken combos with a pool of 8,000 cards vs 1,500. But this game is brand new, they can balance it significantly easier, since they do NOT need to print busted cards to keep the game going. It’s new, it has the hype anyway. Meh, this will stop me collecting and probably pull away from it over the next few sets. They’re just copying MTG entirely, rotation identical and Carbonate boosters exactly the same as collector boosters, Meh!
I'm really torn on this: On the one hand... they had to do it. We can't expect new players to come into the game and have to immediately research and collect cards from 10 sets in order to have a competitive deck. Also some of the biggest complaints so far have been about oppressive leaders (Boba, Han, Sabine). Rotation provides a built in 'solution' to problem leaders. But... There's no way around the fact that it just feels rough to be spending hundreds/thousands on cards with the clock ticking down that value day by day. My locals are struggling a bit to gain traction with premier as it is. What will that be like now? The timing of this announcement is tough for me too. It feels a bit like "hey guys buy tons of set 4 because we're about to reset soon". Why wasn't this plan laid out when SWU released originally? We waited about 6 months to get our hands on Spark cards. Now that we've gotten what we need, we pretty much have a year left to play with them I was really thinking about buying a bit more of shadows and republic, but now do I just put that into JTL instead? What do I do with my older cards?
This! I totally agree it's the one thing that they need to do to make rotation stable, the fact that the mention cards being reprinted in new sets leaves me to believe that the 7th set and every subsequent rotation set afterwards will have a larger pool of cards with staples included maybe?
I believe rotations are needed in order to keep the game fresh and balanced. The problem with swu is the fact that there are too few players to support two different formats and the rotation will draw even more people away from the game, since people are not willing to collect cards that will become worthless at some point. And this is sad to think because this is the best cardgame I've ever played
Rotation kills card games. People like to play with their cards. Rotation should only be implimented after the game has a dedicated playerbase and only when other options are exhausted. A card game's first two years are the most important(because that's about how long most last); so instead of doing stuff like this, they need to be doing whatever they can to grow/retain their playerbase.
LETTER TO FFG: I really do like the game, but for God sake pls dont make such small letters on the bottom of the cards, it is already hard for us older players to see those small letters on the bottom, I am not an eagle, stop putting more signs there I already have problems seeing edition and rarity 😁
It is annoying, but I would take that over it being bigger and messing with the art or graphic design. At least the rotation letter is bigger then the set letters so maybe it will not be too troublesome
@joshuaperrine2019 at my local store, there are many players playing draft and premier simultaneously, from my point of view game needs balance and rotation is way to do it, it is better then endless baning of cards. I am sad to hear that your local community is lacking players :(
@@josipmimica I've called literally every shop within 100 miles of me and played at a few of them. Eight players is the most I have seen or heard. I literally had to drive over an hour to find a shop that had enough players to launch an event this week.
@@josipmimica also, rotation is literally banning entire sets of cards, if you take more than a second to think about it. I've played over 15 different cards games, worked at an LGS, and was a WPN tournament organizer. Rotation kills games like this. Aside from magic, every single other card game that's introduced set rotation this early didn't last three years. People want to play with the cards they paid for. FFG needs to be doing everything they can to grow/retain their playerbase and rotation is not the answer.
@@joshuaperrine2019 and you propose format to last for how long? 5 years? eternity? other games failed because of other reasons, not because they introduced rotations, and if you bought your cards to dump it on someone else for higher bid later sorry, you are playing this game wrong :( new cards will enter eternal format just like now, I dont see any reason for prices to drop, just play eternal format in your local store and it is fine, it will be supported, they said it! I played mtg for quite a long time, and I quit because of failures of wotc and I will never again play that game, and if FFG make something similar like WOTC did, I will be first to quit, easy! I really dont see this rotation like something bad, new set looks awesome but I can understand your concerns about low numbers of players on local tournaments...
As a strictly casual player, I’m all about eternal formats. But like with MTG I was rarely a Standard player yet I would keep an eye on the format to see how the metas would flesh out. I’ll probably tackle this game similarly. I don’t go to premier events and at the same time I enjoy seeing how the format evolves. Overall it’s probably healthy for the game to take this approach.
Yeah, but that happens with magic and people still spend out for that. If sabine ECL or han yellow were still the top 2 decks in 3 or 4 years' time with practically unchanged deck lists, competitive would get stale. Rotation is necessary 😊
the rotation format is not shocking at all, if you think about it. its very similar to magic block rotation from back in the day with the 2 blocks and 1 core set, we are just missing the core set. i like the rotation, its clean.
@@Rayquaza894 they literally said if they keep reprinting same card in new sets you will be allowed to play any version of it (even from sets that rotated)
Not gonna lie Im pretty ok with all the changes. Will be pretty good for long term balance if we go past 9 sets, which I feel like might happen now. And more chance to get Ls is a big plus to me! Plus eternal format sounds like it would be a fun change up later on!
Not gonna lie your comment reads like bot or plant comment. This game has everything stacked against it. Rotation won't help grow/retain the playerbase. Games that introduce rotation in the first two years, die. Games based on a licensed ip rarely last more than 2 years. Magic clones typically don't last very long. Interest in Star Wars is waning and the fandom is fractured worse than when TPM came out.
I kinda wanted to be offended by this, but after thinking about it, I’m really not. I like that they are having the future sight of producing three sets a year, I’m willing to see how the ride goes. Though the months that we only 1000 to 1200 cards will definitely have a fall off in interest I feel, but I could be wrong. Also, as long as there is no crossover promotion, where I’m running my Asajj deck against Optimus Prime or Carl from the walking dead… I’ll be happier with SWU than I am with M:TG
I do like the the trilogy reference for rotation, but i would prefer that once we have 6 sets to rotate 1 set out when a seventh set is released. So just spark would rotate when whatever set 7 is released.
Rotation is normal for tcgs,I play yugioh and having only 1 format and it being eternal is both good and bad imo. I'm glad they will be rotating out older cards as it means things will be fresh,but also having an eternal and twin suns formats to keep your old cards playable is very wise by ffg
FFG can't control their greed. I'm out of premier for sure. Eternal only player here. Ditching 3 sets is insane and purely driven by greed, 2 year rotations are outrageous.
@@DJSerpent Eternal format would be popular and probably will be more popular the problem is the player base right now is currently extremely small….and as any card player knows from experience….the line there gonna support the most/ put all there prize support in is standard(premier), there not even giving the game time to develop and grow before there chopping up half there product line in there main format
So what if people use cards in the eternal format from later premier sets, and then players using older decks will be force to "rotate" to keep up regardless... I'm not quite sure I get how that would work.
Does this go for leaders as well? If so, I’m not a fan of this personally, players who love to play Sabine have gotten to play with the deck for a year already. I’ve been playing the game since midway through set one and I just finally found a deck I love playing in Jango. But some players will get to play a deck they enjoy for longer than I’ve gotten to enjoy my deck. Yeah the legacy format will exist but will it actually be popular? Will set one Boba be allowed? If so there really won’t be a point
Fair point, but do you not think the meta would be stale if you were still seing bossk blue, han yellow, sabine ecl, as the top contenders in like 3+ years time
If FFG support this "Eternal" format, I'd like to see tournaments for Eternal, the same way WOTC support Modern and Pioneer for Magic Hopefully that way we get a ballance within the community - Those that want to stay up to date with Premier can - Those that don't want to rotate, don't have to with Eternal
No one will play that lol community it's growing but not for other formats, to early for that, who would want play old format when those cards are rotated out. They won't be worth next to nothing
a 2 year rotation is way sooner than expected? 2 years seems like a very reasonable rotation time. And an eternal format makes it kinda moot as you can just follow whatever best suits your playgroup
That sounds like a good way to make things stagnant and split an alrwady embarrassingly small playerbase. Card games that introduce set rotation this early, never last very long at all.
FFG are doing this all wrong, these decisions are based on greed and show no loyalty to a commited fan base. (MTG) Foundations set is de-signed to remain Standard-legal for at least five years, or until 2029. This is longer than the typical three-year rotation for other Standard sets. Why is the rotation longer? Foundations set is intended to be a base set, providing a stable starting point for new players It's designed to make it easier for players to stick with Standard for longer periods
Mtg and pokemon have had rotation for over a decade. No issue. Wizards decisions for competitive support, prizing, and the way they treated their players is the only reason standard died off so hard. Well, on top of their, 100 releases every year.
@@devynmounteer6696there are a whole lot more card games than just magic and pokemon. A great many died due to introducing rotation. People like to play with their cards. There's already barely enough premier players.
I don't have a problem with set rotation but I feel like certain cards like leaders and legendaries shouldn't be rotated. It also feels really early for a set rotation, shouldve given it more time.
Rotation is definitely necessary for a card game to have a healthy development cycle. Card design is too limited if you have to take into account every single broken interaction you could be generating from each set. But in the other hand it's nice to have a format where anything is possible. So I think ffg is handling it well. I would like to see one in one out on set rotations instead of rotating 3 sets at once
@@volfas5because this game is heading into the ground. Card games that introduce set rotation this early, die. It already has a tiny playerbase(most of which were burned by WotC). It's based on a licensed IP and is using custom artwork(both of which are expensive). There's not much value for collectors. People want to play with their cards. Rotation forces them to either stop playing or buy new cards. The playerbase is far too small to sustain more than one format. Rotation doesn't solve ban lists, because it takes the easy way out by banning whole sets.
@@joshuaperrine2019I see dedicated devs learning from older TCGs like YU GI OH and implementing limited card pool for compotetive play to avoid power creep. Game has growing player base and especially growing competitive scene. Yeah IP stuff could bring trouble in the future I get it. New collector focused special boosters should provide value for collectors, but I am not sure since I don't care about it. And rotation gives devs more controll over meta without ban lists again YU GI OH... But I guess I get your point. Community is currently small and 4 sets in rotation sounds too small.
@@volfas5I see a game company ignoring the pitfalls that kill other card games. There's literally one example of a card game successfully introducing set rotation this early and dozens that have died due to it.
I have similar thoughts as Veiled on that topic. Could be healthy for the meta, could help the game but I would have loved to see leaders being excluded from rotations. I mean that's the whole reason for having a ban list, right? *Looking at Boba*
@joshuaperrine2019 yup indeed. Our locals averaged 30 during SHD, now just 5. TWI killed the game. It's over with. So I guess rotation won't really matter, it'll be on fumes by then.
@@user-zc2lm4er4v yeah TWI was good actually with quite a variable Meta, SHD killed the game with the disgusting 2-deck meta(at least 80%+ Boba and Sabine) and with the even more disgusting Boba issue, even a 10 years old kid wouldnt pass such a card from beta testing ahahhahahaahahha and of course the prizes at tournaments were lame starting from set 1 so cheapy rewards from such a big company in Set 2 the reward was even an unplayble worthless rare xD
This is my first TCG, and while it took me a moment to get my head around the concept of rotation (and my disappointment of not being able to play my favourite cards/leaders as soon as March 2026), it makes sense. I've seen so much talk about how people found Sets 2 & 3 stale compared to Set 1 (I only started playing in October), and rotation is the best way to keep the game fresh. Those crying that it's 'greedy' and 'a betrayal' of FFG need to get a grip - it *is* a business that needs to make money to pay the people who continue to develop the game, etc. The fact that there'll be both Eternal and Twin Suns as options to still allow us to play our favourite cards is great. It pushes the responsibility onto the players to support these formats at their local game days. So, if you want your cards to hold value and be used still? Show up! Now, FFG, please bring me a Hera leader that can actually be competitive, please!
Rofl the excuse of it being a business and need to make money is the excact reason that this is bad because you can't make any money if people stop playing your game right?
@@nikosnikosnikosss That's a vicious cycle to get caught up in. You quit the game because they've introduced rotation that you think will devalue your cards, or because you don't like the 'greed' behind the system, so the investment you've already made has gone to waste anyway. (Sure, you can try and sell whatever valuable cards you have, but good guess is that you'll still be running at a loss if you've bought multiple booster boxes rather than individual cards from the get-go.) You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. And if you're quitting the game due to cards losing their value or it being a 'poor investment', isn't your own motivation greed too, rather than genuine enjoyment in the game?
@ then educate me. I'm listening. I'm open to a good discussion but your own claims have been baseless so far. And it's 'misconception'. Correct spelling and grammar might help you have a better chance at being understood correctly.
I hated the idea of set rotation. I still do. Some people had convinced me it's not so bad yada yada. They (FFG) are implementing it one of the worst ways possibly. Some cards will barely get to shine or be used as long as others. Not a fan.
And they expect people to pay 6 times the normal cost for carbonite collector boosters? That are worthless in 2 years??? LOLOLOLOL Their profits are going to tank HARD.
Really bummed about the announcement. Im not done playing but i am done paying. Feel like i wasted my time and money chasing down cards that wont be legal in premier. I feel burned like i did with star wars destiny. FFG does it again. I wish lucasfilm would take their license away.
Flesh and Blood is better in almost every way except it never feels fun to play. I love the design and how the game works, but in practice I never really feel like I'm having fun. SWU is just an mtg clone based on a licensed IP with a waning/fractured fandom.
I like the idea of rotations. FFG did that with X-Wing miniatures and the hyperspace format. This SWU rotation however, is stupid. If like me you've dumped $1000 plus into each release so far, knowing we won't be able to use these cards we've been collecting in a year or so is brutal. I can't believe they'd cycle out the existing 3 at once and not leave 1 or 2 sets from the same time period. If someone stops playing, they won't be making a comeback if the thousands they've already invested are useless for the next 12 month period, and they have to buy-in again. Maybe the cost of the cards will come down if people like me aren't collecting playsets anymore as I'm sure it will turn people off.
This is about the worst thing they could possibly do. Pokemon and Magic were around for a while before introducing rotation. The games that introduce it within the first two years, die. You need a large/dedicated enough playerbase in order to pull something like this off. I've played 18 different tcgs over the years. Magic, specifically, for 19 years. I've worked in a card shop and was a tournament organizer. I've seen many card games come and go; and this one has everything stacked against it. FFG needs to be doing everything they can to grow/retain their playerbase and set rotation is not it.
@@joshuaperrine2019 Doing something for a long time and being good at it aren't the same. Let's be honest, if you've invested so much time and money in that amount of tcgs it's because you weren't good enough to get anywhere in Magic thus your opinion holds no more weight than any other.
My only issue with this is I wish it was maximum 8 sets. I don't think 6 is enough. However, I think this is a great idea. Set rotation fixes huge ban lists and all sorts of problems with a premier format.
I think rotation only makes sense if the game has been out for a while. The smart thing to do is say hey the first 3 sets are eternal and sets that follow can be part of rotation block. Because without spark of rebellion there is alot of fundamentals lost. I will laugh when new players start set 7 and go gee why are there space tokens and no ground token anticpating ground tokens are not reintroduced in the later formats. I would not mind seeing rotation of leaders from set to set. Rotation seems incredibly stupid if draft exists. Makes me feel like the cards I paid for were wasted if rotation catches on.
I don't think rotation is necessary. I agree with the 2nd statement. Their plans for rotation would erode spark of rebellion which lays the foundation for the game.
TBH, the rotation they want is too soon. Also, it's a shame to have a SW game and soon enuff see the Likes of Luke and Vader and Palpatine (Units) gone. Such staples of the whole universum should be irremovable. For the sake of fluff and SW nerds like myself. Unless they intend on reprints of key cards with newer expansions [?], it leaves me grumpy.
I see a lot of comments from people who confuse a kids game with an investment. Why? Nobody will take away rules or cards from you when those sets will be excluded. Rotation, like it or not (and I bought 3 boxes of the first expansion and 4 of the second) is a necessary evil to keep the game HEALTHY. The alternative is to ban the cards or spend a lot of money to make a competitive deck. All these solutions have pros and cons but the one with the least cons is certainly rotation. The thing that I found strange is that at minimum 4 sets will be allowed and this let me think that maybe they have problems with balancing too much cards? Or maybe the design space is already to much narrow and after 5/6 sets things start to be really repetitives?
Ban? Rotation has nothing to do with bans. Bans are a prohibition on playing certain cards in sactioned events, period. The rotation serves only and exclusively to create a new game format. A smaller format that changes much more often to be precise. That's all. Making a drama about this remains totally senseless (but this is my opinion). There will be tournaments and PQs in both the eternal format and the rotating format and you will be the one to choose where and what to play. Anyway... if the game dies because of this basic thing it will mean that it would have died sooner or later anyway since the only way for a card game to survive in the long term is to have a turnover of players that allow the company that produces it to survive and make a profit.
@@marcomoscati6983 banned cards are card that aren't legal to play. Set rotation is, for all intents and purposes, banning entire sets(because rhose are the sets you can no longer legally play). People want to play with the cards they paid for. Introducing set rotaion this early and with such a small playerbase is completely asinine. FFG needs to be doing everything they can to build and retain their playerbase and premature rotation isn't the answer.
@@joshuaperrine2019 But this is not true. If they had said "we are creating a new format, called 'Mumbo Jambo', that let you play only the X sets of the game"...where is the difference? I can still play my vigilance, and aggression...I simple can play them in all the format that are not 'Mumbo Jambo'. Boba fett is banned (and for now is the only ban)...and that leader is not playable in sanctioned events...even 'Mumbo Jumbo' events. This is the difference, to me, from a ban (so a prohibition to play a card everywhere) and formats with differents cards pool. Anyway...about the fact that is "too soon" to implement a rotation...I agree with you. Personally they should have been waited until the 6th o 7th set and then start think about rotation and how to rotate (and what to rotate....only the leaders? only the cards and not the leaders?). In my opinion, for example, they are printing way too much leaders. There is not point to have 14/15 leaders every set. Is it just a waste of design ideas since of those leader only 3 or 4 (and i'm optimistic) will see play. With a rotating format even less leaders will see play in the rotating format.
The least they can do is include at least lets say 4 staples legendary from old sets to each new set or it's an aggressive throw away of hard earned expensive cards and greedy mechanism not to mention the less than a year and a half life span of each 3rd set of the year, way too greedy buying a whole set to play for less than 16 months? wtf Also in the beginning they said that there thoughts of decreasing the number of sets to 2 down from 3 each year after the 6th set, not sure if they even consider this anymore... I personally prefer a more stabilized longer in time Meta with a couple of fixes maybe within its duration rather than a random chaotic imbalanced most of the times as it has proved Meta where like 2 broken decks prevail with ease
So many cry babies not understanding what power creep is and that their cards would be worthless without rotation within 2 years anyway. Welcome to tcgs!
While I like that a lot is rotating out at once, I am not sure if I like that the second and third set of a year will have less overall play time. It's going to shake up the meta a lot which is great! Cause I wanna see people do well with things other than sabine, ECL and Tarkintown. I am just afraid that the second and third set of the year will sell less or be valued lower because there will be less time for it to be used.
honestly, doesn't sound great, I have been playing tcg's since I was a kid I understand how and why set rotations work, this doesn't seem necessary at this point, think about it how or why this form of rotations is actually good for us players
Not a fan of this at all…especially this early….not good, the game is still in its infancy it’s not even a year old and we’ve already come to the point where we’re gonna nuke 3 sets by the time year two ends that’s wild glad I didn’t pull the trigger on buying any boxes from the new set I’ll just buy the few play sets of the cards I want now….and also the whole collector booster thing is ridiculous there trying to turn it into MTG….eventually there will be 15 different versions of a card and who knows maybe we’ll even see a marvel Star Wars cross over that would be cool huh 😬…bad move ffg!
It's like FFG made up their mind to do everything(premature set rotaion, being based on a licensed IP, collectors boosters, etc) they can to kill the game before its third birthday. Licensing IPs is expensive. Custom art is expensive. Star Wars isn't as big as it used to be. This is a fun game and I'm glad I got to play a battle droid deck for the first time in years, but this game isn't going to last very long.
Set rotation is perfectly fine. We still have over a year until the first one happens. Rotation is both a great self-regulating thing for the meta and makes new set design easier. I think with the slower release cycle that they certainly could do 2 sets at a time rotate, or even a flesh and blood approach. Either way, rotation keeps metas healthy, shake things up, and can be exciting figuring out new builds or testing different stuff. Also, on the no Han 1/tech/DJ change, they are keeping an eye on it. Also, it is not hard to stop, is very telegraphed, and just takes any decent removal to take care of. It's more a skill and deck build test than anything. Can it be annoying? Sure, but again it's easy to stop. They didn't hit anything because more bans/erratas are worse for the game and set a bad precedence. We don't want Yu-Gi-Oh, nuff said.
@joshuaperrine2019 That doesn't really matter. As long as ffg and the swu team keep up support and licensing, it will be no different. I only used mtg and pokemon as an example. Every eternal format game bar, maybe flesh and blood, albeit theirs, is more specific hero rotation, has had major problems with power creep or weird annoying reboots. Vanguard, dragonball super, for example, have both been rebooted because things got out of hand. Vanguard did it like 3 times even. Even Force of Will was really successful for quite a while, and it had rotation.
I think rotating out 3 sets at once is very bad. Should be 6 sets in standard always (once they get to 6) cards that come out a year after another set should get the same amount of play time.
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I definitely won’t be as aggressive at collecting as I was. I probably will not be buying as many boxes anymore.
Same, if I keep playing
This
It definitely seems short....BUT it makes it SO much easier to determine if a card is playable simply by a small character.
It's easier to say "all A and B sets are out" rather than having a list of the previous six sets and guessing what cards are in them and if someone is lying.
AND I love that if a card is reprinted, then ALL previous cards can be played. Brilliant
Rotation is absolutely necessary, the alternative is endless powercreep and bannings. From a game design perspective alone it is completely justifiable. Plus, for everyone crying about how Spark would take so many building blocks with it, by the time rotation happens we'll have more sets, and they can put replacements in those, and it's also desirable to not always have the same effects all the time, the game needs to change from time to time. I also like that it's always 4 to 6 sets, almost like Magic used to do, I hate what they did with the whole 3 years standard, not to mention the stupidity of making UB a part of standard sets.
There are still powercreep and bannings in games with rotation. Like, what?
@@DiegoDeschain sure but not the way they’re doing it. It’s too soon. Game isn’t even 1 year old
@@MikeTheSith200 The rotation is for set 7
It’s absolutely ridiculous since the game is so new. We can understand it with something as huge as MTG, but we’re on set 3 and they’re talking about rotation already. It’s the exact same as MTG rotation getting rid of the last 3 sets. Surely removing sets is for a balance issue, since it takes their staff a ton of time trying to work out broken combos with a pool of 8,000 cards vs 1,500. But this game is brand new, they can balance it significantly easier, since they do NOT need to print busted cards to keep the game going. It’s new, it has the hype anyway. Meh, this will stop me collecting and probably pull away from it over the next few sets. They’re just copying MTG entirely, rotation identical and Carbonate boosters exactly the same as collector boosters, Meh!
I'm really torn on this:
On the one hand... they had to do it. We can't expect new players to come into the game and have to immediately research and collect cards from 10 sets in order to have a competitive deck. Also some of the biggest complaints so far have been about oppressive leaders (Boba, Han, Sabine). Rotation provides a built in 'solution' to problem leaders. But...
There's no way around the fact that it just feels rough to be spending hundreds/thousands on cards with the clock ticking down that value day by day. My locals are struggling a bit to gain traction with premier as it is. What will that be like now?
The timing of this announcement is tough for me too. It feels a bit like "hey guys buy tons of set 4 because we're about to reset soon". Why wasn't this plan laid out when SWU released originally? We waited about 6 months to get our hands on Spark cards. Now that we've gotten what we need, we pretty much have a year left to play with them
I was really thinking about buying a bit more of shadows and republic, but now do I just put that into JTL instead? What do I do with my older cards?
For the love of god. Call the eternal format unlimited
No, they won't , because they don't want to promote eternal format at all costs 😄
Nah, I like the Eternal name.
Why call it SW Unlimited Unlimited
They need to add a core set list that includes some of thr core cards from set 1-3
This! I totally agree it's the one thing that they need to do to make rotation stable, the fact that the mention cards being reprinted in new sets leaves me to believe that the 7th set and every subsequent rotation set afterwards will have a larger pool of cards with staples included maybe?
I believe rotations are needed in order to keep the game fresh and balanced. The problem with swu is the fact that there are too few players to support two different formats and the rotation will draw even more people away from the game, since people are not willing to collect cards that will become worthless at some point. And this is sad to think because this is the best cardgame I've ever played
Rotation kills card games. People like to play with their cards. Rotation should only be implimented after the game has a dedicated playerbase and only when other options are exhausted. A card game's first two years are the most important(because that's about how long most last); so instead of doing stuff like this, they need to be doing whatever they can to grow/retain their playerbase.
LETTER TO FFG: I really do like the game, but for God sake pls dont make such small letters on the bottom of the cards, it is already hard for us older players to see those small letters on the bottom, I am not an eagle, stop putting more signs there I already have problems seeing edition and rarity 😁
It is annoying, but I would take that over it being bigger and messing with the art or graphic design. At least the rotation letter is bigger then the set letters so maybe it will not be too troublesome
I've already got the Bald part of Eagle going and now with my new glasses....
welcome to the club hahahaha
rotation is good, fresh start! and there always will be eternal format for players who dont like rotations 😊
There are hardly enough players for Premier
@joshuaperrine2019 at my local store, there are many players playing draft and premier simultaneously, from my point of view game needs balance and rotation is way to do it, it is better then endless baning of cards. I am sad to hear that your local community is lacking players :(
@@josipmimica I've called literally every shop within 100 miles of me and played at a few of them. Eight players is the most I have seen or heard. I literally had to drive over an hour to find a shop that had enough players to launch an event this week.
@@josipmimica also, rotation is literally banning entire sets of cards, if you take more than a second to think about it.
I've played over 15 different cards games, worked at an LGS, and was a WPN tournament organizer. Rotation kills games like this. Aside from magic, every single other card game that's introduced set rotation this early didn't last three years. People want to play with the cards they paid for. FFG needs to be doing everything they can to grow/retain their playerbase and rotation is not the answer.
@@joshuaperrine2019 and you propose format to last for how long? 5 years? eternity? other games failed because of other reasons, not because they introduced rotations, and if you bought your cards to dump it on someone else for higher bid later sorry, you are playing this game wrong :( new cards will enter eternal format just like now, I dont see any reason for prices to drop, just play eternal format in your local store and it is fine, it will be supported, they said it! I played mtg for quite a long time, and I quit because of failures of wotc and I will never again play that game, and if FFG make something similar like WOTC did, I will be first to quit, easy! I really dont see this rotation like something bad, new set looks awesome but I can understand your concerns about low numbers of players on local tournaments...
As a strictly casual player, I’m all about eternal formats. But like with MTG I was rarely a Standard player yet I would keep an eye on the format to see how the metas would flesh out. I’ll probably tackle this game similarly. I don’t go to premier events and at the same time I enjoy seeing how the format evolves. Overall it’s probably healthy for the game to take this approach.
@@deeterful this game doesn’t have the player base for 3 formats. And Twin Suns will still be limiting with 7 sets
@@MikeTheSith200 no Twin Suns is eternal.
@@DJSerpent no it’s not
@ both formats will allow all cards to
@@MikeTheSith200 yes it is, they confirmed and said it was an eternal format.
Definitely selling my cards keeping one cheap deck
I'm thinking of doing the same.
This is pretty much exactly what Magic did, I'm not really surprised.
It's also what most card games that aren't around anymore have done, so...
This rotation Will split the community into two. People have spend massive amounts of money in cards that Will not be legal in 2 years period.
I'm so glad I didn't invest in this game. Dodged a bullet. I'll stick to playing online at Karabast.
Yeah, but that happens with magic and people still spend out for that. If sabine ECL or han yellow were still the top 2 decks in 3 or 4 years' time with practically unchanged deck lists, competitive would get stale. Rotation is necessary 😊
the rotation format is not shocking at all, if you think about it. its very similar to magic block rotation from back in the day with the 2 blocks and 1 core set, we are just missing the core set. i like the rotation, its clean.
Ya but mtg been out forever
So 7th set i cant use vadar or lukes anymore?
Yep, and set 1-3 will be worthless. No one plays twin sun and they want to add a third format
@nigelevans9608 right lol I stop playing edh mtg so definitely selling my stuff off
I am new to TCG games in general, but the set rotation seems logical and fun to me. There will be different formats to play the older cards in right?
What happens is that they print older cards for you to buy again. Its bad
It's a move motivated by greed. If you have played tcgs for decades, you'd know that.
@@Rayquaza894 they literally said if they keep reprinting same card in new sets you will be allowed to play any version of it (even from sets that rotated)
Not gonna lie Im pretty ok with all the changes. Will be pretty good for long term balance if we go past 9 sets, which I feel like might happen now. And more chance to get Ls is a big plus to me! Plus eternal format sounds like it would be a fun change up later on!
Not gonna lie your comment reads like bot or plant comment. This game has everything stacked against it. Rotation won't help grow/retain the playerbase. Games that introduce rotation in the first two years, die. Games based on a licensed ip rarely last more than 2 years. Magic clones typically don't last very long. Interest in Star Wars is waning and the fandom is fractured worse than when TPM came out.
I kinda wanted to be offended by this, but after thinking about it, I’m really not. I like that they are having the future sight of producing three sets a year, I’m willing to see how the ride goes.
Though the months that we only 1000 to 1200 cards will definitely have a fall off in interest I feel, but I could be wrong.
Also, as long as there is no crossover promotion, where I’m running my Asajj deck against Optimus Prime or Carl from the walking dead… I’ll be happier with SWU than I am with M:TG
The ride ends in about a year(two tops).
I do like the the trilogy reference for rotation, but i would prefer that once we have 6 sets to rotate 1 set out when a seventh set is released. So just spark would rotate when whatever set 7 is released.
Rotation is normal for tcgs,I play yugioh and having only 1 format and it being eternal is both good and bad imo. I'm glad they will be rotating out older cards as it means things will be fresh,but also having an eternal and twin suns formats to keep your old cards playable is very wise by ffg
Its not normal. Only 2 use rotation
@Rayquaza894 well if we are looking at the "big 3" than I think it's fair to say it's normal.
Rotation is a reason why so many card games don't last longer than two years.
We'll see bases other than Tarkintown and ECL, that alone shakes things up massively
Its early but it makes sense. Set one has had really dominant leaders and cards, and theyve only released weaker and weaker cards since.
A Trilogy like format was also technically teased on Bluesky by Tyler.
FFG can't control their greed. I'm out of premier for sure. Eternal only player here. Ditching 3 sets is insane and purely driven by greed, 2 year rotations are outrageous.
less than 2 for set 3 only 16 months i believe.
I’m fine with a rotation, I just hoped that set 3 would stay around longer
15 months sounds decent to me
I think the rotation is fine. Eternal Format will be popular too.
@@DJSerpent too early for that everyone is enjoying standard. They won't make tournaments for those other formats gg
@TruongMtgArenaHearthstone03 They said they will in their article.
@@DJSerpent Eternal format would be popular and probably will be more popular the problem is the player base right now is currently extremely small….and as any card player knows from experience….the line there gonna support the most/ put all there prize support in is standard(premier), there not even giving the game time to develop and grow before there chopping up half there product line in there main format
@@davidwright7922 nah it's garbage those cards will be worthless gg
@@davidwright7922 plus prizes they are giving out been garbage
I absolutely hate the idea over rotation this early on and I think it’s terrible and causes me nothing but regrets with buying into the game
yeah.
So what if people use cards in the eternal format from later premier sets, and then players using older decks will be force to "rotate" to keep up regardless... I'm not quite sure I get how that would work.
At least you have a choice: if you have no problem with chasing older cards, you play eternal.
Does this go for leaders as well? If so, I’m not a fan of this personally, players who love to play Sabine have gotten to play with the deck for a year already. I’ve been playing the game since midway through set one and I just finally found a deck I love playing in Jango. But some players will get to play a deck they enjoy for longer than I’ve gotten to enjoy my deck. Yeah the legacy format will exist but will it actually be popular? Will set one Boba be allowed? If so there really won’t be a point
Looks that way yup
Fair point, but do you not think the meta would be stale if you were still seing bossk blue, han yellow, sabine ecl, as the top contenders in like 3+ years time
@@zacokazo your right
I hope twin suns gets more popular with the new set
@@babyhuey942003 no one plays that lol
@TruongMtgArenaHearthstone03 There are 2 stores in my area that run it at least once a month, and we usually have 8-12 people there.
If FFG support this "Eternal" format, I'd like to see tournaments for Eternal, the same way WOTC support Modern and Pioneer for Magic
Hopefully that way we get a ballance within the community
- Those that want to stay up to date with Premier can
- Those that don't want to rotate, don't have to with Eternal
My locals had a few players, eternal I doubt it. Games still new and they just dump this 😅
Yeeeah i really dont like roatations ill be an eternal gamer
Hope and pray enough players support it
No one will play that lol community it's growing but not for other formats, to early for that, who would want play old format when those cards are rotated out. They won't be worth next to nothing
@@nigelevans9608there are hardly enough players for premier, so I doubt we'll get to play in any eternal events.
a 2 year rotation is way sooner than expected? 2 years seems like a very reasonable rotation time. And an eternal format makes it kinda moot as you can just follow whatever best suits your playgroup
That sounds like a good way to make things stagnant and split an alrwady embarrassingly small playerbase. Card games that introduce set rotation this early, never last very long at all.
Definitely stop buying any cards
FFG are doing this all wrong, these decisions are based on greed and show no loyalty to a commited fan base.
(MTG) Foundations set is de-signed to remain Standard-legal for at least five years, or until 2029. This is longer than the typical three-year rotation for other Standard sets.
Why is the rotation longer?
Foundations set is intended to be a base set, providing a stable starting point for new players
It's designed to make it easier for players to stick with Standard for longer periods
Mmm this just shows me that this TCG won’t last.
Mtg and pokemon have had rotation for over a decade. No issue. Wizards decisions for competitive support, prizing, and the way they treated their players is the only reason standard died off so hard. Well, on top of their, 100 releases every year.
@@devynmounteer6696there are a whole lot more card games than just magic and pokemon. A great many died due to introducing rotation. People like to play with their cards. There's already barely enough premier players.
I don't have a problem with set rotation but I feel like certain cards like leaders and legendaries shouldn't be rotated. It also feels really early for a set rotation, shouldve given it more time.
Rotation is definitely necessary for a card game to have a healthy development cycle. Card design is too limited if you have to take into account every single broken interaction you could be generating from each set. But in the other hand it's nice to have a format where anything is possible. So I think ffg is handling it well. I would like to see one in one out on set rotations instead of rotating 3 sets at once
Ya but for later lol, games still pretty new it's not magic the gathering
So you're saying that eternal formats will be unplayable due to broken interactions, so we either have to keep buying or quit playing?
also im wondering if eternal format is still gonna have boba leader banned
Rotation within the first 2 years of a card game has a proven track record of killing games.
True fact! Also, games based on licensed IPs don't last for very long either.
Its over 😔 rip to star wars unlimited. It had a good run, but a massive ban list ain’t good
rotations are pretty standard for tcgs, that or ban lists
@@ineedwowit's not either or😂 Most card games that rotate, die after about 2 years.
@ well that’s just….not true lol
Im definitely quitting gg
Why?
@@volfas5because this game is heading into the ground. Card games that introduce set rotation this early, die. It already has a tiny playerbase(most of which were burned by WotC). It's based on a licensed IP and is using custom artwork(both of which are expensive). There's not much value for collectors. People want to play with their cards. Rotation forces them to either stop playing or buy new cards. The playerbase is far too small to sustain more than one format. Rotation doesn't solve ban lists, because it takes the easy way out by banning whole sets.
@@joshuaperrine2019I see dedicated devs learning from older TCGs like YU GI OH and implementing limited card pool for compotetive play to avoid power creep. Game has growing player base and especially growing competitive scene. Yeah IP stuff could bring trouble in the future I get it. New collector focused special boosters should provide value for collectors, but I am not sure since I don't care about it. And rotation gives devs more controll over meta without ban lists again YU GI OH... But I guess I get your point. Community is currently small and 4 sets in rotation sounds too small.
@@volfas5I see a game company ignoring the pitfalls that kill other card games. There's literally one example of a card game successfully introducing set rotation this early and dozens that have died due to it.
I have similar thoughts as Veiled on that topic. Could be healthy for the meta, could help the game but I would have loved to see leaders being excluded from rotations. I mean that's the whole reason for having a ban list, right? *Looking at Boba*
Rotation is a reason why so many tcgs don't last longer than about two years.
So greedy and will make small markets disappear completely as there won't be enough players even for locals
The most people I have seen in a store event was 8. This game already isn't doing well.
@joshuaperrine2019 yup indeed. Our locals averaged 30 during SHD, now just 5. TWI killed the game. It's over with. So I guess rotation won't really matter, it'll be on fumes by then.
@@user-zc2lm4er4v yeah TWI was good actually with quite a variable Meta, SHD killed the game with the disgusting 2-deck meta(at least 80%+ Boba and Sabine) and with the even more disgusting Boba issue, even a 10 years old kid wouldnt pass such a card from beta testing ahahhahahaahahha and of course the prizes at tournaments were lame starting from set 1 so cheapy rewards from such a big company in Set 2 the reward was even an unplayble worthless rare xD
This is my first TCG, and while it took me a moment to get my head around the concept of rotation (and my disappointment of not being able to play my favourite cards/leaders as soon as March 2026), it makes sense. I've seen so much talk about how people found Sets 2 & 3 stale compared to Set 1 (I only started playing in October), and rotation is the best way to keep the game fresh. Those crying that it's 'greedy' and 'a betrayal' of FFG need to get a grip - it *is* a business that needs to make money to pay the people who continue to develop the game, etc. The fact that there'll be both Eternal and Twin Suns as options to still allow us to play our favourite cards is great. It pushes the responsibility onto the players to support these formats at their local game days. So, if you want your cards to hold value and be used still? Show up!
Now, FFG, please bring me a Hera leader that can actually be competitive, please!
Rofl the excuse of it being a business and need to make money is the excact reason that this is bad because you can't make any money if people stop playing your game right?
@@nikosnikosnikosss That's a vicious cycle to get caught up in. You quit the game because they've introduced rotation that you think will devalue your cards, or because you don't like the 'greed' behind the system, so the investment you've already made has gone to waste anyway. (Sure, you can try and sell whatever valuable cards you have, but good guess is that you'll still be running at a loss if you've bought multiple booster boxes rather than individual cards from the get-go.) You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. And if you're quitting the game due to cards losing their value or it being a 'poor investment', isn't your own motivation greed too, rather than genuine enjoyment in the game?
False claim and misconception of words.
@ then educate me. I'm listening. I'm open to a good discussion but your own claims have been baseless so far. And it's 'misconception'. Correct spelling and grammar might help you have a better chance at being understood correctly.
This guys is funny, he likes to play this or that. Yet, have never seen a video of him playing any single PQ or even showdown
I hated the idea of set rotation. I still do. Some people had convinced me it's not so bad yada yada. They (FFG) are implementing it one of the worst ways possibly. Some cards will barely get to shine or be used as long as others. Not a fan.
Game good. Will play game. Cards cant be used? Oh well, Daddy needs winter heating
And they expect people to pay 6 times the normal cost for carbonite collector boosters? That are worthless in 2 years??? LOLOLOLOL Their profits are going to tank HARD.
MGT most valuable cards haven't been in rotation for years... Value comes not from if it is playable but from rarity.
Why you want to play with the cards of a COLLECTOR booster? You can play with the normal version of the cards paying a lot less
@@volfas5 It comes from both and other factors as well.
@@volfas5 Lol who is collecting this game mtg is totally different
Really bummed about the announcement. Im not done playing but i am done paying. Feel like i wasted my time and money chasing down cards that wont be legal in premier. I feel burned like i did with star wars destiny. FFG does it again. I wish lucasfilm would take their license away.
Same here, 20k in collecting everything
Flesh and Blood proves you don't need rotation for your CCG. It's a better game as well. Just sayin...
One Piece as well - also good game.
Flesh and Blood is better in almost every way except it never feels fun to play. I love the design and how the game works, but in practice I never really feel like I'm having fun. SWU is just an mtg clone based on a licensed IP with a waning/fractured fandom.
Yeah and you have some cards like command and conquer for 70-80 buck ...
But didn’t they say there’s only going to be 9 sets?
I like the idea of rotations. FFG did that with X-Wing miniatures and the hyperspace format. This SWU rotation however, is stupid. If like me you've dumped $1000 plus into each release so far, knowing we won't be able to use these cards we've been collecting in a year or so is brutal. I can't believe they'd cycle out the existing 3 at once and not leave 1 or 2 sets from the same time period. If someone stops playing, they won't be making a comeback if the thousands they've already invested are useless for the next 12 month period, and they have to buy-in again. Maybe the cost of the cards will come down if people like me aren't collecting playsets anymore as I'm sure it will turn people off.
This is just about the best they could possibly do. PTCG and MTG have both consistently shown why exceeding a 2-year rotation period is a bad idea.
This is about the worst thing they could possibly do. Pokemon and Magic were around for a while before introducing rotation. The games that introduce it within the first two years, die. You need a large/dedicated enough playerbase in order to pull something like this off. I've played 18 different tcgs over the years. Magic, specifically, for 19 years. I've worked in a card shop and was a tournament organizer. I've seen many card games come and go; and this one has everything stacked against it. FFG needs to be doing everything they can to grow/retain their playerbase and set rotation is not it.
@@joshuaperrine2019 Doing something for a long time and being good at it aren't the same. Let's be honest, if you've invested so much time and money in that amount of tcgs it's because you weren't good enough to get anywhere in Magic thus your opinion holds no more weight than any other.
@@jelstone20that makes no sense and doesn't address the problems with introducing set rotation this early and with a playerbase this tiny.
@ It makes perfect sense, you are a failure and so you are taking it out on others.
@joshuaperrine165 makes perfect sense if you can read. None of your hate comments have addressed anything so why should mine?
My only issue with this is I wish it was maximum 8 sets. I don't think 6 is enough.
However, I think this is a great idea. Set rotation fixes huge ban lists and all sorts of problems with a premier format.
I think rotation only makes sense if the game has been out for a while. The smart thing to do is say hey the first 3 sets are eternal and sets that follow can be part of rotation block. Because without spark of rebellion there is alot of fundamentals lost. I will laugh when new players start set 7 and go gee why are there space tokens and no ground token anticpating ground tokens are not reintroduced in the later formats. I would not mind seeing rotation of leaders from set to set. Rotation seems incredibly stupid if draft exists. Makes me feel like the cards I paid for were wasted if rotation catches on.
I think this is fine, honestly. It's good not to see the same cards over and over and over. Typical tcg stuff that's good for the health of the game
It's good for the health of all the tcgs that are dead due to introducing set rotation this early😂😂😂
Rotation is a necessary evil.
But this aggressive of a rotation (2 years) is Predatory, always has been
I don't think rotation is necessary. I agree with the 2nd statement. Their plans for rotation would erode spark of rebellion which lays the foundation for the game.
I’m not happy with it because it means we get the least amount of time with set three of any year. Really lame
I hate they didn’t do anything about Han, Tech, and DJ combo.
I found this highly disappointing as well. I'm glad I only play casual.
Scared of a 3 card combo lmao
TBH, the rotation they want is too soon. Also, it's a shame to have a SW game and soon enuff see the Likes of Luke and Vader and Palpatine (Units) gone. Such staples of the whole universum should be irremovable. For the sake of fluff and SW nerds like myself. Unless they intend on reprints of key cards with newer expansions [?], it leaves me grumpy.
I see a lot of comments from people who confuse a kids game with an investment. Why? Nobody will take away rules or cards from you when those sets will be excluded. Rotation, like it or not (and I bought 3 boxes of the first expansion and 4 of the second) is a necessary evil to keep the game HEALTHY. The alternative is to ban the cards or spend a lot of money to make a competitive deck. All these solutions have pros and cons but the one with the least cons is certainly rotation.
The thing that I found strange is that at minimum 4 sets will be allowed and this let me think that maybe they have problems with balancing too much cards? Or maybe the design space is already to much narrow and after 5/6 sets things start to be really repetitives?
So instead of banning specific cards, we ban whole sets? 🙄
Ban? Rotation has nothing to do with bans.
Bans are a prohibition on playing certain cards in sactioned events, period.
The rotation serves only and exclusively to create a new game format.
A smaller format that changes much more often to be precise.
That's all.
Making a drama about this remains totally senseless (but this is my opinion).
There will be tournaments and PQs in both the eternal format and the rotating format and you will be the one to choose where and what to play.
Anyway... if the game dies because of this basic thing it will mean that it would have died sooner or later anyway since the only way for a card game to survive in the long term is to have a turnover of players that allow the company that produces it to survive and make a profit.
@@marcomoscati6983 banned cards are card that aren't legal to play. Set rotation is, for all intents and purposes, banning entire sets(because rhose are the sets you can no longer legally play). People want to play with the cards they paid for. Introducing set rotaion this early and with such a small playerbase is completely asinine. FFG needs to be doing everything they can to build and retain their playerbase and premature rotation isn't the answer.
@@marcomoscati6983fracturing their already tiny playerbase seems like a bad idea to make sustainable profit.
@@joshuaperrine2019 But this is not true. If they had said "we are creating a new format, called 'Mumbo Jambo', that let you play only the X sets of the game"...where is the difference? I can still play my vigilance, and aggression...I simple can play them in all the format that are not 'Mumbo Jambo'. Boba fett is banned (and for now is the only ban)...and that leader is not playable in sanctioned events...even 'Mumbo Jumbo' events. This is the difference, to me, from a ban (so a prohibition to play a card everywhere) and formats with differents cards pool.
Anyway...about the fact that is "too soon" to implement a rotation...I agree with you. Personally they should have been waited until the 6th o 7th set and then start think about rotation and how to rotate (and what to rotate....only the leaders? only the cards and not the leaders?).
In my opinion, for example, they are printing way too much leaders. There is not point to have 14/15 leaders every set. Is it just a waste of design ideas since of those leader only 3 or 4 (and i'm optimistic) will see play. With a rotating format even less leaders will see play in the rotating format.
thats how magic used to do it
Ehh not much point having costly cards
What was the massive news? There wasn't any in the vid
HE'S BACK!
Love the game, hate rotation.
The least they can do is include at least lets say 4 staples legendary from old sets to each new set or it's an aggressive throw away of hard earned expensive cards and greedy mechanism not to mention the less than a year and a half life span of each 3rd set of the year, way too greedy buying a whole set to play for less than 16 months? wtf Also in the beginning they said that there thoughts of decreasing the number of sets to 2 down from 3 each year after the 6th set, not sure if they even consider this anymore... I personally prefer a more stabilized longer in time Meta with a couple of fixes maybe within its duration rather than a random chaotic imbalanced most of the times as it has proved Meta where like 2 broken decks prevail with ease
This Josh dude in every reply really needs to get a life 😂
Did you quit SWGoH?
So many cry babies not understanding what power creep is and that their cards would be worthless without rotation within 2 years anyway. Welcome to tcgs!
You must be new to this hobby, because every single tcg that's introduced set rotation this early(aside from mtg) died before their third birthday.
Pokemon has a similar rotation structure and the game is fine. I dunno why people are freaking
It’s mostly one guy that’s been going into every reply crying like a baby. Likely a yugioh schizo that doesn’t know what a healthy game looks like.
Plus ffg been giving out crappy showdown cards lol, garbage prize support. Stores have to give out store credit to buy people in
While I like that a lot is rotating out at once, I am not sure if I like that the second and third set of a year will have less overall play time. It's going to shake up the meta a lot which is great! Cause I wanna see people do well with things other than sabine, ECL and Tarkintown. I am just afraid that the second and third set of the year will sell less or be valued lower because there will be less time for it to be used.
2 years was what I expected, and I think it's fairly good pace.
I also believe that this game will sadly only live for two years. It was already an uphill battle and now this???
honestly, doesn't sound great, I have been playing tcg's since I was a kid I understand how and why set rotations work, this doesn't seem necessary at this point, think about it how or why this form of rotations is actually good for us players
I've been playing them as a kid too and have seen many die after introducing rotation.
Not a fan of this at all…especially this early….not good, the game is still in its infancy it’s not even a year old and we’ve already come to the point where we’re gonna nuke 3 sets by the time year two ends that’s wild glad I didn’t pull the trigger on buying any boxes from the new set I’ll just buy the few play sets of the cards I want now….and also the whole collector booster thing is ridiculous there trying to turn it into MTG….eventually there will be 15 different versions of a card and who knows maybe we’ll even see a marvel Star Wars cross over that would be cool huh 😬…bad move ffg!
It's like FFG made up their mind to do everything(premature set rotaion, being based on a licensed IP, collectors boosters, etc) they can to kill the game before its third birthday. Licensing IPs is expensive. Custom art is expensive. Star Wars isn't as big as it used to be. This is a fun game and I'm glad I got to play a battle droid deck for the first time in years, but this game isn't going to last very long.
This game won't last long enough for rotation to matter.
Set rotation is perfectly fine. We still have over a year until the first one happens. Rotation is both a great self-regulating thing for the meta and makes new set design easier.
I think with the slower release cycle that they certainly could do 2 sets at a time rotate, or even a flesh and blood approach.
Either way, rotation keeps metas healthy, shake things up, and can be exciting figuring out new builds or testing different stuff.
Also, on the no Han 1/tech/DJ change, they are keeping an eye on it. Also, it is not hard to stop, is very telegraphed, and just takes any decent removal to take care of. It's more a skill and deck build test than anything. Can it be annoying? Sure, but again it's easy to stop. They didn't hit anything because more bans/erratas are worse for the game and set a bad precedence. We don't want Yu-Gi-Oh, nuff said.
This isn't mtg or pokemon. Those games bring in crowds, aren't based on a licensed IP, and have been around for a long time.
@joshuaperrine2019 That doesn't really matter. As long as ffg and the swu team keep up support and licensing, it will be no different. I only used mtg and pokemon as an example. Every eternal format game bar, maybe flesh and blood, albeit theirs, is more specific hero rotation, has had major problems with power creep or weird annoying reboots. Vanguard, dragonball super, for example, have both been rebooted because things got out of hand. Vanguard did it like 3 times even.
Even Force of Will was really successful for quite a while, and it had rotation.
rotation its not necesary..... make good cards yes.... most of the TWI cards are pure garbage... so nobody use a lot of twi cards...
I think rotating out 3 sets at once is very bad. Should be 6 sets in standard always (once they get to 6) cards that come out a year after another set should get the same amount of play time.
Just play online free😅
I think rotation is good for new players.
It's good for greedy companies and players new to the hobby.
First!
Its over 😔 rip to star wars unlimited. It had a good run, but a massive ban list ain’t good