Hip-Hop Head's Reaction to BABYMETAL - "HEADBANGEEEEERRRRR!!!!!" Japan - "Headbanger!" Kawaii Metal
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Tac Robinson gives his reaction as he experiences Babymetal for the first time, witnessing a live compilation of some of Babymetal's biggest shows as they play their song "Headbangeeeeerrrrr!!!!!" across multiple venues. "
For the background of this video, the effect I was goin' for was some sort of a "stylized abstract concert experience" since much of the band's allure comes from a grandiose visual and auditory concert experience. So as with most of our videos on the channel, if you are prone to seizures or episodes from flashing content... take caution when viewing.
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#notacult
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#headbanger
I love the intro and edits you guys put in
Baby Metal is fucking fireeeeeeee in a really what the fuck I didn't expect that, theatrical, kind of way, and their shows look fuckin wild.
goddamn that band is incredible..
"Is there really that many people watching this". Their videos on youtube have all have over 100 million views.
There's always big money in all Top Tier bands and all bands are Label guided (manufactured) when then the get to a certain level. Anyone who complains about money or mentions manufactured... well wishes they where at the level.
BABYMETAL over 12 years and still LEGENDS
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How can you think this is evil? This is one of the cutest things I've ever seen.
Respect to Tac for appreciating the skill and talent of the group even though its not his kind of thing. Not everyone can do that.
Thanks for the kind words, we both appreciate it. We have been covering a wide range of music, and none of it is really "his thing" so to speak. (I often remind myself: "If it was his thing, he would already be listening to it.") There are a lot of bands we have covered that have quite a bit of talent that is not always instantly obvious to a first time listener or observer. (For instance: as the case is with many early punk rock bands.) With BabyMetal though, it is INSTANTLY obvious how much talent they have and just how much work they put into the production. -Dr. Smith
@@TheFreakinReaction you're wrong about the money. Completely wrong. Don't make stuff up when you don't know.
Their talent agency never believed in Babymetal and those girls earned every penny themselves. They were selling out shows performing in their own clothes with no production. They made all that money. And a lot more. It's all on video.
@@Jordan-Ramses When watching clips of shows of a large scale elaborate production at locations like Budokan... it takes LOTS of money to be put toward it in order to make it happen. Almost all bands/groups start out with nothing and have to work their way up (perhaps with the exception of corporate-type boy "bands"). But the shows featured in the clip we used were not from BM's early days, the video was cuts from performances at large venues with a VERY high production cost. We are not "making up" anything, and we understand that the girls created their own fame and fortune. -Dr. Smith
@@TheFreakinReaction you guys are not on the same page. I will take the middle of the road. They started as a sub group of another group. They got bigger than the other group. Because of the way the main group was set up the main singer would have to leave the group followed by the other two two years later. So the Agency didn't put money into the group. Just rolled over some of the profits. They did three small shows one year for a DVD than decided to make them a stand alone group. And the following year is represented in this video. So the Agency really never invested in BABYMETAL. Just used the profits from the last show. They did invest in the parent group. I don't think these big shows turn a profit. They are made for blu-ray sales as BABYMETAL is a merchandising machine.
@@TheFreakinReaction I would not characterize Amuse allowing Babymetal to keep a portion of their own profit as having a lot of money behind them. I don't think that is fair.
What has Amuse ever done besides Babymetal? Not much. It's not like they're out there creating stars. Amuse is a terrible talent agency.
Welcome to the Foxhole 🦊🤘
Nice introduction to BabyMetal.
Next time I will recommend you to avoid live compilations for proper introduction and better experience. For example you got this song live at Legend 1997 safe to react as well some other safe versions.
I'm gonna leave you another way to evade copyright blocked issues.
We know Amuse is very hard to deal with copyright blocked issues, fortunately we got a way to go around with "Babymetal Reactor Resource" YT place, you'll get full original clips of their best live performance with watermarked logo safe to react, look for "Future Plans" vid, follow instructions and you'll get all of them, upload the one with the logo for us and you can watch without it, don't worry for us we already saw all of them. You'll find some watermarked clips in the channel also with the description and where to get the non-logo version. If you want you can watch the original clean version and pause whenever you like to say your comment and after that you can put a logo provided in the same place so you can enjoy a clean version from the beginning.
You can also put some heavy opacity and translucent effect to avoid those issues if necessary.
However there are some safe clips to react like those from Legend 1997 or some of Budokan 2014 or previous to this year and Festivals that is out of reach from Amuse hands.
By all means AVOID live compilations at least for first time watching, not saying all of them are bad but chances are you'll end up facing the bad ones bad edited, very confusing, switching costumes and distracting you from the performance and meaning of the song. Also avoid Glastonbury Festival performance, the sound is bad and the crowd isn't the usual fans.
Here's some examples of safe to react live performances:
- "Headbangeeeeerrrrr!!!!!" live at Legend 1997 (2013, you can find this a "Gans Tomas" channel or "abr metal") or Legend I (2012).
- "Rondo Of Nightmare" with Mischiefs Of Gods Intro live at Budokan 2014, this one normally is safe to react without any filters. ("Kawaii Metal" channel got this)
- "Catch Me If You Can", you got live at Budokan 2014 with subtitles version at GuilhermeCait channel or live at MetroRock 2015 in Babymetal Reactor Resource channel under the title "CMIYC".
- "Ijime Dame Zettai" live at Sonisphere Festival 2014 (lately hasn't been so safe, so careful)
- "Karate" live at Download Festival 2016 ("kitsune6001" channel got this one)
- Distortion, live at Download Festival 2018 or Rock Am Ring 2018, official channel got the Download version and is safe to react.
There's no report to this day from anyone being blocked using BMRR watermarked logo if you follow this step by step.
Enjoy your journey into the Foxhole 🦊🤘
Your typing finger most be aching mines hurting just scrolling down 🤣🤘🦊
The reason I picked a live performance to show Tac for the first time was that I wanted him to experience the feeling of being in the crowd at a show and get a sense of both the choreography as well as the crowd command, which are some of the most striking aspects of the band. (I also tried to make the background and animation tie in with that same thought to give somewhat of an abstract concert experience for the viewer.) I appreciate the info on the vids, thanks! The band has a lot of diversity so we will certainly be doing more. :) -Dr. Smith
@@TheFreakinReaction Sure, the Legend 1997 version got also that massive and impressive crowd participation as well that provides a context in which we can explain what is happening over there and what makes this song so special and at the same time respecting the vision of the creator of this group and live series, there's so much to said about these different versions that deserves their own spot, but i know what you mean and I get the spectacular and shock effect that this type of compilations can provide as well some protection against Amuse copyright blocked, I'm just giving you a humble recommendation of alternative choices and where you can find it 😉👍
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Good first reaction. You are not wrong, there is a lot of money now and they put on huge productions - especially in their big arena shows in Japan - but they worked hard to get where they are now, they started off with zero budget, no money whatsoever.
For the first 2 or 3 years they sang and danced to pre-recorded instrumentals, they had no money for a live band.
Their first solo shows included playing for free in a shopping mall, performing on a tiny stage normally used by comedians in the food hall at a festival, in a warehouse and their first solo headline show was in a venue with a capacity of 150 people in the audience.
Yes they are signed up to a big talent agency, but this is the brainchild of just one man, their producer Kei Kobayashi, a lifelong metalhead who was working in the kids division with the agency because the bottom had fallen out of the market for the bands and groups he had previously worked with. JPop and Idol music was virtually monopolising the Japanese music industry at the expense of other genres, having almost all the air time on radio and TV.
He was inspired to fuse metal with the JPop aesthetics after seeing a young girl singing with her previous JPop trio. He was so impressed with her unusually loud (for a JPop singer) vocals and stage presence. He saw her potential to lead a fusion Metal-Jpop band, playing the sort of music he liked, and that she would not be drowned out by the loud music. She was only 10 or 11 years old at the time.
Not long after he got the chance to work with her when the agency set up a new group aimed at coaching the most talented girls on their books in all things related to the entertainment industry - singing, dancing, acting, modelling, writing, presenting, interviewing, stage management and so on - with a view to finding out what they liked best and what they were best at so that when they were a little older they could choose how they might further their careers.
The group would have a school theme so it was for ten or twelve girls aged between 10 and 15.
With the school theme the group had sub-units like after school clubs. Three or four of the girls would be in a club and would have themed song and dance routines, so there was a cooking club, tennis club, science club, reporters club and so on.
Kobayashi set up the heavy music club with the girl he had spotted as lead vocalist and he chose her two young friends to be her support adding another element that was not the norm in metal with their choreographed dancing.
The agency thought he was mad, that there was no audience for this fusion of metal with JPop and that it could not possibly succeed. They allowed him to have his pet project, but they provided no budget for it (unlike all the other sub-units who each had a slice of the main group's budget) so there was no financial risk to the agency if it failed - as they thought it inevitably would.
So the heavy music club even had to borrow clothes from fellow students and staff members to make up their first stage costumes - and they performed under the name BABYMETAL.
The name BABYMETAL is not about their age (although when they started in 2010 they were aged 12 and 11 so it probably did play a part too). The name was chosen for two reasons:
- to symbolise that they gave birth to a new genre of metal music (kawaii metal)
- because the writing (and pronunciation) in Japanese is nearly identical to the writing of "heavy metal" (and they love a pun):
BABYMETAL = ベビーメタル (be-bi-me-ta-ru)
heavy metal = ヘビーメタル (he-bi-me-ta-ru)
Against all expectations BABYMETAL started to attract their own audience and they gained popularity. At the end of 2012 Su-metal, the lead vocalist, would be 15 so she would have to graduate to continue her own career. It was decided that BABYMETAL should separate from the parent group to become an independent band as her vehicle as a singer.
In anticipation of this the agency finally provided a bit more budget and a live band was brought in to support them with a view to seeing if there might be a future for this experiment after all. The live band played the encores in a few shows and supported BABYMETAL at a couple of festivals.
In 2013 BABYMETAL finally separated from the parent group and at their first big headline shows in March 2014 they released their first album (including the songs they had released as singles or that they had recorded while in their parent group since they started in 2010) and the live band became their full time support for all live shows. They have been with them ever since.
It was from here on that they finally started to get the big money - especially after their successful first world tour in the summer of 2014 where they won over 50-60,000 UK metalheads at their first major event outside of Japan.
They have gone on to be one of the best live bands on the planet (and have many awards from international publications to prove that is not just my opinion), the most successful Japanese band internationally of all time (first Japanese band to play Wembley Arena in the UK, highest charting Japanese band in 53 years and first Asian band, not just Japanese, to have an album at number 1 in the US Billboard Hard Rock charts.
So no, maybe not a band formed "organically" in a garage by friends (if such a thing really exists), but also not the corporate manufactured group so many people mistakenly think. This is a passion project, the brainchild of one man formed entirely around the talents of the lead vocalist principally and her two good friends.
They tried something new and they worked as hard as any band might that starts with absolutely nothing - the only thing they were given was the opportunity. Against all the odds they made it work, they are unique - there is no other band like them - some have tried, none have come close.
They earned the success and worked very hard for the big money they have behind them in more recent years. These girls have spent literally half their lives with BABYMETAl now and they deserve all the success they have worked so hard to earn.
They have 3 studio albums to date, about 50 songs and you will be hard pressed trying to find any two songs alike. They have songs in virtually every metal genre, but they will also mix in many other musical styles and genres with the metal, not just pop, they include rap, folk, hip hop, ska, reggae, EDM, Latin, Bollywood and more. As a Hip-Hop head I'm sure 'BxMxC' will be recommended for you - I'd say try any song, you may like some more than others, one or two may not appeal - but you will see there are no fillers.
I always appreciate your comments and the tone in which they are presented. Nice job as usual.
@@michelm.6033 Thanks, I appreciate that 🙂
Bloody hell my fingers now in splints
Scrolling down that 🤣 well worth it though well thought out comment 😁🤘🦊
@@martinmetal7481 Haha thanks🦊
For years, people often look at bands that are huge and forget that "It's a Long Way To The Top if you Want to Rock'N'Roll". It's easy to see a big production as it is today and not think of the garage sessions, the hotels and touring around in a station wagon from town to town, the gigs where the band outnumbered the guests, and all the things a band encounters on their rise. Bands that were put together like Backstreet Boys and NSYNC didn't have the same challenges that BabyMetal did and that's good because it let them have more creative freedom. When you "put together" and band like "The Monkeys", you end up losing a lot of artistic freedom and you have to answer to the money. So not having $ thrown at BM from the start, helped them be more true to themselves and their vision.
I also find it nice that they were allowed to peruse a direction that the school was not convinced was marketable. Even without takin' $, they still took resources and they themselves could have been in a group that the school had more confidence in. So that just seems like a rare opportunity (at least from my location/perspective).
I've been a fan on bands like Ningen Isu, Maximum the Hormone, Garlic Boys. for many many years, but it doesn't seem like they ever had the drive (or perhaps the desire) to be very successful outside of Japan despite putting in their dues for years. (Though MtH has been doing some stuff recently outside of Japan). But it's nice to see a band like BM get global attention as well as the ability to play with of of their iconic peers.
As for forming "organically in a garage by friends", yes, it does happen (in some generas more than others I guess), but I come from a punk rock background in LA, so that was "the common method" back in the day. You also mentioned that what they were given was "opportunity" rather than money... and that is the most important thing that they could be given. If they were given money, they wouldn't have seen their vision some out in the same way and it would have less of their personal influence in every aspect.
BabyMetal's work covers quite a diverse range and we well certainly be doing more in the future. :) -Dr. Smith
babymetal grows on you... 😁😁😁
Hi anyone who reads this. I am person who loves an overall great song. From the vocals, to the instrumentals, to the deep meanings within the lyrics, if not too slow unless it has emotion, enjoy electric like sounds and music, great beats, great rapping if it has it, good stage presence, beyond performance, and breaking the barriers of what is music. When I found Babymetal last summer I was like what the what. I listen to more music and realize where have I missed this amazing music. I knew this would be one of my fav. artists of all time within a day of finding them. I learned alot about them and still find stuff now and then I have missed. For me I rank them as good as Big Time Rush, Dove Cameron, Sofia Carson, and Ariana Grande. All of them breaking barriers of what music is and leaving a mark for generations to come. For instance Big Time Rush was formed to be just a show, until every one realized on t.v. they had amazing vocals, great dancing, and stage presence. Not including acting on top of that. 2 of them were already freinds and got picked while another got picked. However, the final person picked for the main strong vocals did not seem right and was let go. The other guy who was known by the other guys picked knew his chance again would be perfect. He walked into the room and everyone knew he was the one. They be Kendell, James, Carlos, and Logan. They first had music created for themselves and then did their own music making. That would be 3 albums in total with many hits. They broke up around 2014 when 1D was put under the same label and were even more popular. Nickelodeon used them as a puppet to promote 1D. This caused them to think it was time to find separate careers. They all stayed friends and had some issues but realized their issues made them a stronger bond. They came back and sang during covid to their song World Wide and then began coming back to go on tour. They released more songs and all their fans that barely like majority early teens to 30 where happy. They been on tour having a blast. I went to see them the other week and they did over 20 songs from new to old. They sang within the crowd across the whole area for over 3 iconic songs. They brought fans up to sing with and did some jokes. They love jokes, including within their music videos. Just overall crazy story like others I mentioned earlier, will maybe save those for later since this already long lol. The producer that gave them chance are great friends and work with band, kinda of a similar story to Babymetal in certain ways. Babymetal right now I belive is tied with BTS and Nightwish with most reacted artists on all of RUclips. I wouldn't doubt when their new album that comes out maybe late this year and the new fans from the metal community and other communities, will really want to see them live. Just the other day another reactor was blown away so much after their second song reaction from metal community said, we need to seem live right away. Hope you enjoy more future stories and if you want reccomendations from artists mentioned above for top my list I will put in the really comment if so. Thanks for reading and have a sub! Kitsune Up!
Big misconception about BabyMetal this was the brain child of a long time Metal Fan .
As said in comments no money thrown at them the company thought it would fail but let him try .
The more successful they become then the backing came . They worked hard for there success when other children went on holidays they toured as they could only tour during holidays . All there teenage years and now in there 20s they have toured the world performing .
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Bet you thought I forgot you! Much respect as always, but not as much as for the women. LOL.
@@michelm.6033 me too , as it should be 😁🤘🦊
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You should react to Babymetal song BxMxC you'll love it it's a rap song about doing rap battles in a cipher
HA! That was the best and most respectful, WTF reaction I’ve watched in a long time. This video has shots of multiple performances in Japan: Nipon Budokan, Saitama Super Arena, Tokyo Dome, Makuhari Messie, and possibly the Forum in LA. I apologize if I misspelled any of those locations. Babymetal started as a subgroup of Sakura Gakuin; a J-pop Idol group with a school theme meant to educate girls age 10-15 about the entertainment industry. Contrary to popular belief they had next to no money thrown at them when they started. They even borrowed clothes from their instructors early on. In 2013 Babymetal broke off of SG due to the lead vocalists graduation and rising success. They have 3 albums plus a best of album and are about to drop their 4th. After 5 (?) world tours and 12 years they command an S-load of money and respect for their hard work. I’m sure others will elaborate below. Enjoy.
Agree with that very respectful great comment 😁🤘🦊
I find it comforting that SG would support BM and if not do it financially, but by giving them a platform to present their vision. While some might say there was no financial risk to SG, I would think that it was still taking instructors and kids away from participating in other aspects/groups of the school that SG had more confidence in. So, I'm just happy they took the chance, and all the money and respect that comes with their success it is very well earned! How hard they work truly shows! :) -Dr. Smith
@@TheFreakinReaction Well said and I appreciate the reply. I’d love to see your guest react to BMC. I have no clue what he likes and mean no disrespect, but he might have more knowledge on the genre than I. Thank you.
EDIT: I get the feeling your familiar with SG and I’m thankful for them. I absolutely agree with you, but would like to add that Suzuka (lead vocalist), was the only one of the three girls that didn’t perform in other groups simultaneously. She was limited to the whole unit and BM. They still gave the group time to shine and I am forever appreciative. Take Care.
@@TheFreakinReaction My apologizes sir, but I’m about to head to bed. I believe you may be familiar with the extremely early days of the individuals, I mean starting at 4-5 years old in Su’s case and Moa at 8, probably earlier. I’m pretty sure your guest doesn’t know, but if you would like to understand why I appreciate this group so much, I’ll reply tomorrow. Just let me know. Good night.
@@michelm.6033 BMC does seem like one of the best candidates as a next step. :)
Also, I didn't know Suzuka was the only one concentrating solely on the project at the beginning. That would have put extra pressure on her being the only one and having so much invested/riding on the project. (Even more-so if she knew that the school didn't have the utmost confidence in the project.) But again, it's great that they showed they had "confidence in her" even if they didn't have the confidence in the project. That's a rare opportunity I would think, and happy it worked out for everyone involved.
I do know some of the basics of the history, but in all honesty, I don't know all the nuances of what makes them so appealing to such a wide audience (aside from the obvious talented/showmanship aspects). I do know many bands that touch on many additional generas, but not many bands are able to "pull people into the fold" the way BabyMetal seems to. So I'm always interested to understand deeper. :) -Dr. Smith
the best band/concept/show ever ❤️🔥🦊
More reactions to BABYMETAL Please, Every Song is DIFFERENT
🤣 I remember my grandma always going on about "devil worship music" every time she heard me listening to Led Zeppelin...
Well I'm guessin' that once Jimmy Page bought Aleister Crowley's house, that likely sparked a lot of rumor and speculation. lol
"I felt like supporting the devil" 🤣🤣🤣
Your backgrounds are on fire! 🔥
I wanted to give it an abstract feel of being at a show. I figured that most viewers will have already seen the video many times, so I wanted to make that I added something that complemented the experience for new viewers as well as long time BM fans. Glad you liked it :) -Dr. Smith
Thx for your honest opinion about the music, the band and the girls.
I suggest you try one more, maybe Road of Resistance or Yava, and just try and listen, don't fight it 😁
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just give it a couple of listen you might change ur mind Hahahah just like me A Hip-Hop head and not gonna lie babymetal continue my love for metal specially nu-metal last time I love nu-metal/metal is Linkin Park and Slipknot 🤣
It seems like you are not sold on the concept. But you admit that there's talent, professionalism and dedication behind it, and that's fine for me as a BABYMETAL fan. They are certainly not for everybody.
That being said, it would be a pity if you let the thought of them being "manufactured" by someone throwing a pile of money at them guide you. Because that's not what it was like at all. They actually started (at age 11-12) as a side project of an idol group. Fusing their music with Metal was the brainchild of a single producer and metalhead,, and the company behind him was not convinced at all. They started with a minimal budget, shooting videos in borrowed clothes and singing to backing tracks of the songs, because they couldn't afford a real band. Everything they are now is a result of talent and hard work (and a unique and interesting concept).
It's obvious how much talent, professionalism, and dedication went into the production of the group... it is simply undeniable. Many bands (and even entire generas) can leave first timers wondering what it is that fans find attractive about the group. With me, I find that same thing myself with a lot of Hip-Hop... I just don't really understand what the appeal is, and have I often have trouble seeing the talent. But I also highly recognize that talent, professionalism, and dedication aren't the only measure of what makes a group likeable. I actually love a lot of bands that have very little talent, have zero professionalism, and their dedication is questionable at best. For instance, take a band like the Sex Pistols... talent and professionalism is simply not part of their appeal. But, the Sex Pistols are "not for everybody" by any means. So while BabyMetal might not be for everyone (well, nothing is for "everyone" right?), they have many diverse aspects. and even if the overall package isn't completely appealing to everyone, it's very easy for anyone to find some aspect that does resonate with them. The vocals, the band, the choreography, the concept, the wardrobe, the lighting, the structure, even the mechanics of the stage/set. It is simply rare for a group to have so many facets like that, though with such a dichotomy of facets, it is easy for anyone to find something they like, but on the other hand, with so much, it's could also make it easier for someone to find it off-putting. I think of it like a bowl of ice cream... everyone likes it, but you throw chocolate chips in there, sprinkles, nuts, banana slices, hot fudge, and raisins... then you have something for everyone and there's a good chance that there is "something" in there that you really like. But then there's always going to be people that would say "I'll pass, you had me until you put the raisins in there". What is just as likely is that someone would say, "I love all those ingredients, just not all in one bowl". With that in mind, it really shows how much thought went into everything to make BabyMetal work.
Being "manufactured" is simply necessary for artists starting at such a young age. For instance, Michael Jackson never could have rose to stardom on his own. Neither me or Tac view it as a bad thing, it's just a different world to us. While Hip-Hop might have more artists that could be called the brainchild of a big name or promoter who molded the artist, I come from a punk rock background where such engineering is pretty much unheard of. Babymetal is very different from what I would normally think of as a manufactured group such as NSYNC or Backstreet Boys. (A punk rock band would actually have more in common with a 70s disco band than they would have in common with NSYNC.)
While a manufactured aspect of a group might be off-putting as a generality, BabyMetal is surely an exception to the rule, and their lack of $ at the start really contributed to their style. It might have made the road to success harder for them, but it shaped them in a way that would have been lost if they would have had all that backing at the start. -Dr. Smith
Well said dude! I found BABYMETAL while browsing a thread of what others called 'cringe' music, and loved them immediately. It was the Gimme Chocolate video and the crowds energy along with theirs was obvious, and that same great energy is in every single video! I don't need to speak their language to see the enjoyment they give to not only themselves but the crowds as well.
Tengu going get u
A.i tone,s
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Even though 'Headbangeeeeerrrrr!!!!!' is about a fifteen year old girl attending her first heavy concert, Su-metal (Suzuka Nakamoto, or Su) was only fourteen when this song was first recorded.
It's not biographical, but it is a song she could relate to. At that age she was already on stage, rather than attending concerts like the girl in the song.
Just because you don't understand something that comes from another culture, doesn't mean the Devil is involved.
That just sounds dumb.
Su joined her first pro singing group, the JPop trio Karen Girl's when she was 10 years old.
She was admitted to Actors School Hiroshima (ASH) to study singing and dancing when she was 8, and she was 12 when BABYMETAL began.
She has paid her dues every step of the way, and earned her success.
No one was throwing money at this group until they demonstrated they could be worth it.
I had thought of adding subtitles, but I figured that would be too distracting and that Tac would be "reading more than experiencing". In hindsight, I should have given him a copy of the lyrics to read before shooting the video, but we tend to do things very raw here at the channel.
Tac's comments had nothing to do with "not understanding the culture", it was (likely) based on the iconography and imagery (and perhaps the fanaticism/enthusiasm of the fans to a paganesque themed set). When the light trusses above the performers are intentionally arranged in cross patterns (two of which are upside down), it seems illogical to assume that his comment was from "lack of understanding their culture". Outside of this video, I have seen imagery from BM using pentagrams and even superimposing a fox (as opposed to a goat) over the symbol. So it seems to me, if a group doesn't want to have that sort of stigma associated with them at all, then they really shouldn't use such imagery. So while Tac's impression might not have been shared by myself (now or back when I first heard BM), I can see how someone could be left with such an impression. Besides, that's what a first impression is... it's not going to be entirely accurate or based on intimate knowledge of the group.
Also, if they had big money thrown at them from the start, they would be a very different group today and likely would not have as much artistic control over the project. So I feel it's a good thing that they had to take the harder road, it paid off and made them truer to their vision than they otherwise could have been. -Dr. Smith
@@TheFreakinReaction Yes, that all sounds very spooky. LOL.
One thing that's not uncommon in Japan, is to remix Western symbols without necessarily having a deep understanding of the original meaning.
BABYMETAL's exposure to the kinds of images you're talking about were largely through Heavy Metal concerts, record covers, etc.
It's part of the branding of the overall genre they were participating in.
I think that's the biggest part of the culture that Tac was misunderstanding.
Although he could probably answer that himself, rather than having you give what you think were his (likely) thoughts.
@@rickwagner- Obviously the Japanese culture generally does not share the same concept of the Christian idea of "the Devil" or it's connotations. But when the use of such iconography is deliberately used to invoke a response, feeling, or association, it's hard to claim that it's being done without complete understanding of it. Simply put, skulls can make your band creepy, but crosses or pentagrams to make your band edgy will always carry religious overtones and no producer could ever claim ignorance in that matter.
I'm well aware of the branding aspect, but someone like Ozzy will always have people that associate him with devil worship simply because of the imagery. Black Sabbath is no different. If they give themselves a name like that, it doesn't matter that many of their songs seem to come straight out of Catholic school book.... they still are going to get the stigma for making that choice with the name and the imagery.
It also seemed like Tac understood that the deeper meaning that some of the interpretation and cultural differences might not be completely understood to everyone involved. As he actually pointed it out as being the management or "handlers" as I think he referred to them as. But it just seems odd to fault the viewer as being the one who "didn't understand... that they didn't understand".
I don't speak for Tac, I'm just adding my observation (while also imparting some of what was said on the 18 min original video that I edited down to 9 min). Who knows, he might jump in himself to clarify. I merely responded because I am the one with the channel account (and Tac has yet to even see the video). -Dr. Smith
Check out Road of Resistance. It was written by Dragonforce members and is truly epic. This is the one to watch: ruclips.net/video/zTEYUFgLveY/видео.html&ab_channel=BABYMETAL
I had no idea that was written by Dragonforce members, I'll have to look more into the details of that, thanks! -Dr. Smith
So I’m part white so Metallica has got to let me in the band…
...but you have to be able to "do the move" too! (Les Claypool couldn't head bang... so they went with Robert Trujillo lol)
Metallicas move 🤔Seen them 3 times and I’m pretty sure the move is the name of this song..
@@TheFreakinReaction Would be so cool to hear what Les and James could come up with….
Investors ain't fool will not put "whole lot of money" in something that is not worthy.😊
Sugoi! Big money? Eventually, yes, but without the talent, artistry, & dedication they wouldn't have gotten out of the gate!
Arigatou! 🦊🤘 #notacult #kawaiimetal #metalAF
Check out Babymetal BMC the video or live version the lead singer su metal can flow better than most rappers so check it out
You focus so much on the money put behind it but it's not like it started with that. they got the money now but they started with the music coming from tapes because they couldn't afford live musicians. It was really a passion project for one metal-loving producer at a company that just let him pursue his dream.
Also there is absolutely nothing evil about Babymetal. They are probably the most wholesome band on the planet. They sing about friendship, diversity, stopping bullying and falling in love with music.
The main reason I chose this video to have Tac react to is because it featured grandiose large production shows. Since we are both very aware of what it actually takes to put on that caliber of event, it's an inevitable aspect of the reaction to us, but surely not meant to be the focus. Almost all groups start out with nothing and work their way up. My first band was a metal band, and I was 13 when we played our first show... I had a $25 beat up guitar but we couldn't even afford a 2nd (used) mic to be able to have back up vocals. For most musicians, that's the way it starts. So when I see a huge group with a large arena production, the fact that the group likely came from humble beginnings is not lost on me. I'm happy that they were all given the opportunity to pursue their dream. :)
While I agree that Babymetal is quite wholesome, the deliberate use of religious iconography is always going to give some people and evil vibe or associate it with the devil. To be honest, when using that sort of religious imagery, that sort of reaction should be expected. Crosses, upside down crosses, pentagrams, coffins, and skulls are not "wholesome" by any means, and it is well knows that some of these will invoke strong feelings from some people. Several comments here have claimed that the context of the symbology "wasn't understood" and they were just "trying to make it metal"... I don't feel that is a strong argument though. If I used a tattoo covered Buddha head or Mohamed with a mowhawk as imagery for my band, I would expect some push back, someone to be offended, or at least have people expect some sort of relationship of it with the band/music. The fact is, you can be the "epitome of metal" without any of that. So what I don't understand is that if that imagery doesn't relate to the band, then why do they use it? I'm assuming it's because it's thought "that giving that sort of image/branding of the group would sell more". But the impression I seem to be getting from the fans is that it is basically a misrepresentation of the group. So while you might indeed be correct about BM's wholesomeness, I'm assuming you can understand the feeling such imagery can invoke in some people. -Dr. Smith
You want to like it so bad but you're afraid too. 🤣🤣 it's a pretty common reaction to Babymetal. Don't worry. They are the real deal. This is not some phoney crap from an agency. You'll get the details on who they are and how this all came about. But you saw how good it was. You know how good it was. 🙂
No devil included fox maybe
Do they really have that many people watching? When they did Sonisphere they only had 50-60k estimated. When they did the Tokyo Dome they only had 55,000 people. :)
Well the 50-60k people at Sonisphere weren't all there just to see Babymetal. Whereas Tokyo Dome, ever single person there wanted to experience Babymetal. Even their old homeroom teacher from Sakura Gakuin was there, who was brought to tears because he was so proud of what they had accomplished before they were even 18 years old.
Actually these young ladies started out with no money. They were a passion of a music producer who loved heavy metal and wanted to create the birth of a new metal genre (hence the name BabyMetal). He chose the lead vocalist Suzuka Nakamoto because of her powerful voice and unique stage presence. He chose two of her fellow Sakura Gakuin classmates as backup singers and dancers in charge of crowd control.
They started out playing strip malls and small venues with actors pretending to play the instruments to a backing track because they did not have a budget for a real band (until they began drawing huge crowds). Their backing band The Kami Band tours with them for LIVE shows and are mar up of the most talented session musicians in Japan (today did LIVE shows outside of Asia the have Western Kami Band made up of equally talented musicians mainly from the U.S. and Europe.
BabyMetal is respected by the legends of heavy metal and have either performed or collaborated with Metallica, Slipknot, Judas Priest, Guns and Roses, Rob Zombie, The Red Hot Chili Peppers and others. They are legitimate.
If you choose to react to more I suggest you start with BxMxC LIVE to see the diversity of their music.
Excellent comment there getting as long and informative as Grington and Jake 🤣🤘🦊
@MartinMetal thank you sir but I am only trying to provide cover until the real BabyMetal scholars arrive and then I will take my usual seat in the back😉. And I am perfectly fine with that by the way. 👍
@@rah2287 You should consider yourself among the scholars and far better than I. Take Care
@@rah2287 me too i am happy just reading through comments and leaving reply comments and likes 😁🤘🦊 just thought i add unless its Ijime Dame Zettai at Sonisphere 🤣
@MartinMetal I am humbled.
👍 We both appreciate these young ladies and want the best for them. Keep up the good work sir.
The Kami band is all male:)
where did you get devil worshipping from.Babymetal is about as far from that as you can get.
Exactly.
BABY = newborn (and cute).
This is "newborn metal", so it is better to forget everything you might think you know about metal. ;)
While Tac I'm sure has his on rationale on the subject, I can only give you my take:
From many peoples perspective, any sort of pagan iconography or dietyfication of idols is going to come across that way. From a Christian viewpoint, referring to entities (or people) as "gods" could be construed as "the devil's work". When you add in a fanatic fan base that has often been described as almost "cult like", it shouldn't be too hard to see how someone might be left with such a feeling. While I didn't ask Tac specifically, I believe that one of the things that gave him that impression oddly enough, was actually some the stage lights. In several shots, the white lights directly over the stage were on three cross shaped trusses, with the two on the outside being upside down. While that is common iconography in metal, it is also common for people to associate such acts that use such imagery as "devil worshiping". (Though very very rarely is that anything close to the truth.)
But if someone uses such imagery, they should expect that some people to feel that way. It's no different than using something like pentagrams in your imagery. Personally, I didn't think anything of it, I knew that it's coming from a predominantly non Christian culture, but after some thought, I realized that those trusses were intentionally in that shape/design (nothing about their performance seems left to chance and every detail seems scrutinized). Even the trusses themselves were lit up to accent the cross shape (suggesting that it was intentional).
So while that my not be an accurate impression of BM, they do play with that stigma/imagery somewhat, and anyone doing that will undoubtedly leave some people with such an impression to some degree, be it accurate or not. When you have a troupe of skeletons backing you, or a band with somewhat of an undead motif... realistically, I don't think everyone in the world would agree that it is a fair assessment to say BM is "far from that as you can get"... perhaps you're thinking of John Denver. :p
But it is a true first reaction if nothing else. A first reaction is just that, a first impression. It's not going to ever be completely accurate. -Dr. Smith
@@TheFreakinReaction Oh yes they play perfectly with the imagery of metal and use it for their lore. It is metal after all. So I totally understand the first impression, especially when you expect devil worshipping when you hear the word "metal" - which often enough is true. But again: when it comes to BABYMETAL, you have to learn metal new.
They took the devil's horn hand sing - and made it a fox sign for their Fox God, who is in charge for metal music. You have to look closer to see the difference. I agree thats nothing to notice in a first reaction.
They stick out their tongues while introducing themselves with the Japanese word "desu" (I am / we are / this is) making it sound like the English word "death". There is no cuter and at the same time more metal way to introduce yourself. A Japanese person gets that pun when they read/hear "BABYMETAL DEATH", but without that knowledge as non-Japanese you just hear "death".
To name just 2 examples. You'll see more stuff in future reactions that might lead to wrong conclusions at first glance. It will clear up in the comments.
But the most important thing is: they make you smile and laugh with them. And I am glad to see this reaction here too. It is a gift added to passion and talent. :)
Oh, there is an unconfirmed rumour that the singer Su said in her younger years that she would sell her soul to the devil to sing in Tokyo Dome one day. Later, at the age of just 18, she sang in front of 55000 people in sold-out Tokyo Dome 2 nights in a row. Do you believe in coincidence? :D
(People believe, instead of selling her soul, she just traded in the ability to ride bicycles.)
Welcome to the fox hole. #notacult
@@nichtwitzig Building the lore in that way WAS quite logical to achieve what they were going for. I would say that since Tac isn't familiar with metal, it's more likely for someone like that to be more likely to make such a connection initially. Though in my experience, I have never met a metal band that was ever truly into "devil worship" (I played in my first metal band 40 years ago, so I've met plenty of artist along the way lol). Sure there have always been fingers pointed and accusations, even back as far as the Beatles and Led Zeppelin. But in reality, I have never truly seen actual devil worshiping bands exist except in Scandinavian countries with Black Metal and other genres that aren't really my thing. But For Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath to be labeld as such, while they really aren't... they only have themselves to blame for that stigma.
I thought their adaption of the hand gesture was insanely creative and utter genius (for many long and drawn out reasons). Ironically, the "devils horns" really had nothing to do with the devil either. Ronnie James Dio's mother used it as a gypsy curse, evil-eye type gesture and Dio incorporated it into his act. Since Black Sabbath had the mystique of using that sort of imagery, it became known as the devil's horns. So I find the progression of the gesture fascinating.
As for the unconfirmed rumor, the same idea has been a rumor for countless people that have achieved stardom. There's been songs about the "crossroads" for decades, but I think Jimmy Page was the first artist that I was listening to that I remember hearing the same sort of unconfirmed rumor about. I don't put much faith in rumors like that though. -Dr. Smith
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With the comment about feeling like you're supporting the devil, have a watch of 'Babymetal Death' ruclips.net/video/jRc9dbgiBPI/видео.html
I don't want to spoil it with what happens, but it's definitely worth a watch!
That's one I'm not familiar with, I'll check it out, thanks :) -Dr. Smith
Studio version is better.
I myself normally prefer a studio version much better than a live version of a song. I'm really interested to know hat specifically is it about the studio version of this that makes it better in your opinion? -Dr. Smith
@@TheFreakinReaction
It tells a story.
The physical action...
You have the same expression as someone who has taken too many antidepressants and lost their brains. Are you okay?