AR500 Armor Build Up Spall Coating Test
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- Опубликовано: 3 сен 2020
- AR500 Armor, and any other brand of steel armor is often faced with the criticism that due to the spalling or fragmentation, many elitists in the gun community say you might as well not even have armor. They claim the fragmentation of the bullet hitting the steel will blow out the sides of the plate carrier and tear up your arms and neck, so many steel armor companies have liners they put on their armor in order to catch the spalling. I test the build up spall coating on a 10x12 LVL 3 plate from AR500 Armor and see how well the coating actually catches fragments from bullets.
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Thank you for making this video in good faith. This was an actual fair test using the built up coating, and no smoke and mirrors. Thanks again.
Thank you for your video
I own Ar500 with the build up coat and people always point to the spalling so this is exactly what I was looking for
Same here!!
Yeah folks have been talking about spalling off ar500 plates without mentioning the coating
You can wrap it in duck tape with good enough results if there are naysayers, tell them to look up those tests haha
They're still doing it
This is an awesome vid. I bought an AR500 plate with a build-up coat and all my gun buddies mocked me mercilessly for it. I was ready to drop another heap of cash to buy HESCO plates until I saw this. I’m very relieved
Great review, thank you I needed this information!
Great video brother, very informational and well put together. I’ll take a steel plate anyday
The thing that scares me is chance of ricochet, if you were in a weird shooting position or leaning in anyway the bullet just hitting the plate and being redirected into your face or legs. I don’t know if the spall coating would catch it the same way as a straight on shot or not. Also I don’t think a lot of companies coat their plates as good as this one. A group I’m in on Facebook always has people asking about armor and every time it just turns into an argument Steel or ceramic like you said lol. I always tell people either way it’s going to keep the bullet out of their heart. Hopefully no one is in a position where they get shot and definitely hope they aren’t sticking around to take enough to make any plate fail. Awesome video!
Thats why they teach us to square up to the target. If they're at an angle you don't see them, you have bigger problems than ricochets.
Buy polyethylene it's cheaper and longer lasting than ceramic
@@rc59191 Yes that's what i'm drawn to.. 20+ year lifetime vs 5 years ceramic..
@@vernievuitton ceramic expiration is Fudd lore. As long as it’s not horribly cracked or delaminated it’s good to go.
if you add the spall sleeve from spartan armor to this, your spall coverage should be fine
Nothing can contain spalling to a safe level. Not even kevlar bags. And once you do that, you're making a plate that's heavier, bulkier, and more expensive than a comparable ceramic plate, eliminating any advantage.
Why spend more money for to compensate for bad designs when you can buy better plates
@@gunrelatedvids Some are not in Military and Law Enforcement, and don't feel like buying new plate sets every 5 years when Ceramic materials expire.
@@yakivpopavich thats a lame excuse for buying garbage
@@gunrelatedvids Interesting opinion. I'm merely stating a fact that Ceramic plates expire, and not a lot of people mention that.
Thanks for the video bro
Ceramic isnt rated for edge shots within a certain measurement, it has to be some inches from the edge in for it to be rated to stop the round.
Good one bro.
Great video. I think my steel plate will work just fine in the extremely unlikely even that I’m shot.
Great video, but is this just the original base coat or the added on 50 upgrade?
Would like to see the same test with ceramic plates
Sometime the build up spall coating will help stop rounds that the plate shouldn't on its own
Giggity
I bought a set of base coated AR 500 lv III armor from eBay. The seller is very well respected due to their rating. I wanted to test one side against a 5.56 16" AR and a 5.45 16" AK. After shooting the top side with five M193 rds, I got only one pass through. That singular shot only happened when I was fairly close. Like 16 yards maybe. Everything else was stopped as I was back a bit for most of the rounds. Then I shot six times on the bottom with Hornady V-Max 5.45. Nothing.
For lv III just be careful about 55gr M193 totting baddies at very close range. They could penetrate the plate if you let them.
M193 is a faster round it will defeat most steel plates
Sometimes a plate with the build up spalling coat will stop the m193
You're brave buying armor on Ebay.
@@rkh7169 Beats what I had previously. Nothing~
Great video. The heck with the haters. You covers all the hater blocking bases! 😂
So idk why people hate on AR500 after seeing this
Because they just repeat what they hear, or are just trying to deny the facts. I own steel and ceramic, both are viable options.
Wish I got the build up coat on my order. At least I ordered a spall blocker sleeve.
@@bowfin9553 yeah dude, get the trauma pads. What spall sleeve did you get?
@@mach533x tactical scorpion it has a trauma pad built in. Also got some level 3A 5x8 spall blockers from recycled soft plates
@@jeremyhoggatt972 Exactly same. I use my steel for force on force and I put my ceramic as my primary equipment. My steel become backup if I get shot, and I need a replacement for the ceramic during the week I'm waiting for it to be shipped to me (or in the case of the recent armor shortage, for the following months of waiting)
Where are all the fragments or bullets? Surely it didnt stay in the frag coating
Yes, they did in fact stay in the coating. That is what it is DESIGNED to do spanky. It's not majic.....
Put a rubber shroud in front and bake
I don't think AP 5.56 is supposed to beat level III.
Actual armor piercing 5.56 will defeat level 3. I've just always heard M855 can be hard for armor to stop because of the mild steel core in it.
Yes level 3 stops m855 even out of a 20 inch barrel I’m pretty sure 👍🏻
Depends on what kind of level 3. If it's steel or ceramic/PE, probably. It it's just PE, definitely not.
Very true! 👍🏻
giggity
"I'm not a medical expert, I could be wrong. I'm sure there will be trolls telling me I'm wrong". Holy contradicting moly!
This is youtube man, i'm a nobody with 200 some subs and I already have people attacking me for what I say in my videos
@@TheKalkara131 you are a medical expert. Dont kid yourself.
@@skreek.o7 No, I'm someone that listens to experts and people that have actual experience, and tries to retain some of what they say. The extent of my medical training is a trauma class.
Xtac is the slowest m193 if you hit level 3 with federal or imi or any actual spec m193 from a 16 inch barrel at 15 yards it’s going right through
You're correct, I uploaded a vid recently retesting this plate with a 20" upper and IMI M193, it did penetrate.
Xtac chronos about 2900 from a 16 inch barrel is basically run of the mill 223 federal imi real spec m193 goes 3150 from a 16 inch
@@eddiearchuleta615 I retested this plate with a 20" upper and got penetration, pretty sure I used imi m193. Video is up on it.
Yes sir I seen that one I meant that if you use the imi in the 16 inch it will still go through level 3 steel
Also m193 would be most likely to penetrate the lv3 armor than m855
They make level 3+ which is very good at stopping lap rounds i have a set
One thing always ignored by the ceramic-fanboys is that they have a shelf-life of 5 years, so you're paying 4x the cost of steel over the same timeframe. Military and police also x-ray plates regularly to confirm no cracks have developed over normal use. Steel has its problems, but the differences between it and ceramic go beyond weight and spall so get fully informed before buying.
They don't have a shelf life. Ceramic plates don't expire or degrade other than with hard use. If stored properly, they'll last you 20 years. 5 years is just a warranty, used by steel plates manufacturers to scare and misinform ppl to buy their product.
@@easternpromises7991 i was under the impression that ceramic plates do degrade with time due to the fact they are composites held together with resin, and the actual resin does degrade
I’m just here to tell everyone in here to quit being cheap and just save up for some ceramic plates
I'm just here to tell you that if someone wants to run steel armor, they'll more likely than not be fine. However, at the same time, the biggest advantage steel used to have was price. Battle steel and LAPG kinda ruined that.
People think there's an argument of Steel vs Ceramic. Really, there's no contest. Ceramic wins hands down. Military, LE, and every professional I've interacted with who carries a gun, (with one exception), wears either soft armor or ceramic plates. Ceramics we're at one point cost prohibitive, but can now be had for a reasonable price on a budget.
While I do agree, ceramic is better, there are some pros to steel armor. Basically no BFD, don't have to spend a lot for nicer features like multi curve, no real shelf life, don't have to worry about the ceramic cracking if it falls on concrete or something.
@@TheKalkara131 Steel armor absolutely has BFD, that's a myth. Multi-curve is actually dangerous on steel armor as it changes the properties of it when shaped and reduces any of the ballistic properties it has. Ceramic does not have shelf life either, that's a myth. Simply falling onto concrete is not going to damage a ceramic plate.
@@refutonefandus When the shelf life is printed on ceramic plates, or stated on a companies website, are they lying or just propigating myths???? Yes, steel has BFD, though minute compared to the large bulges made on ceramic. I own both, both are viable options.
@@jeremyhoggatt972 Ceramic plates do not have a "shelf life", the number you see is a manufacturer's warranty. Depending upon how they are stored, their shelf life can exceed your own.
Steel still has BFD, and ceramic's isn't "large". Remember, as part of NIJ testing they do measure BFD.
I see what you did there lol got that conversation going *cough* steel is better *cough*