Exposing Fakes at the Farmers Market
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You are so right. My Aunt was the president of our farmers market and people who sold fresh fruit or vegetables were not allowed to sell there unless you were the farmer who grew them. That's the way it should be.
Agreed
Agree!:)🌱
What if everything is run by one person and they gotta maintain instead of sell? I don’t understand using some random person but Atleast someone who has seen the source
The people who sell produce are allegedly registered with UT Agriculture and extension office for our region in East Tennessee Mountain region. What I have observed though is that none of the people are Farmers of the soil because their hands are stay at home housewife smooth and their nails are too manicured. The men's and women's. I have planted many hills of beans,taters,corn and whatever other seed my grandparents would plant for the season. I was helping my grandpap hoe rows to plant seed as early as 2 years old and the palms of my hands would get rougher than an old rough corncob after about 3 acres in total maybe a little more between about 3 fields. That was from 1976 till around 1981. I missed that work after my family moved to town. None where commercial produce farmers because you have to be licensed by the State of Tennessee to be one.
Right on
In Kansas I went-totally broke had about $12 to my name that day- and found a real farmers booth with real decent prices and was so excited over his actual dirty produce with bug bites and all and was walking back and forth to pick out what I wanted and doing the math in my head. He had other customers who came and went while I was there under his canopies but anyway I finally figured out what I could afford and walked over to him. I said he had so much great stuff I wanted it all but this is it for today. He rang me up and I paid and as I stepped away he quietly said “miss-if you come back at close-I will give you some stuff that’s about done. About expired -if you want it. It’s just gonna rot otherwise.” I said “what time does it close?” And so I showed up after close. and he said “take some of them sweet potatoes.” This confused me-none were anywhere near “bad”. And he kept directing me to take perfectly good food. I realized he had seen me mentally calculating and realized I couldn’t afford what all I wanted. He loaded me down with 4 large boxes of fresh fruit, salad stuff, and a bunch of peaches! I said “thanks so much! This is really gonna help. My kid is gonna be so excited to see all this! I had a half a box just of peaches! Which were the first thing I got busy processing when I got home. We felt like we were in heaven with those delicious things. Those were the only things that actually would have expired because they were fully ripe. Anyway-you better believe I knew he and his family were the real deal actual farmers because clearly he had seen hard times growing up. I wasn’t there to beg-no one else would have noticed my hesitancy over selecting a tiny amount of food. He spotted me twice more that summer/fall and each time offered me some food. I accepted again but took less each time. I had finally found a job there and we were on our way to getting back on firmer ground.
Yes!! Beautiful story! mine has bug bites too. haha. Not perfect at all but chemical free!
nowadays i also just bless whenever i can even to awful people who had attempted to destroy me
but if u r hungry again, hunt raccoons and predator animals for meat and roast or grill them. very nice. put a rat trap for rat meat. and you will never run out of food again
This sounded like a short story straight out of chicken soup for the soul and i needed it ❤
What a nice story. There are good people that have been there before and it's so nice that they helped you out! Reading your story, I got excited for you!!
That's something my father in law would probably do too, he wants everyone to eat healthy and local. I would do too with my chicken eggs, I basically give them away for free anyway 😅
Chickens are just my hobby and pest control for the sawmill and my in-laws farm. I love people like this.
We call those people at the farmers market “resellers“ and yes they are very hard to compete with when they buy at wholesale when you’re slaving away all week to pick fresh only to have your produce undervalued.
Another hint to find them, look for labels/stickers. Sometimes they miss a few. 😉
They should be required to post signs explaining that they're resellers.
@@user-xd6nc6rg7b I completely agree.
Or a lot of times they will have a little nick in the fruit where they picked the sticker off! These people really suck!
Yes they do! What's more deceiving is they label the produce with a fake farm name that they don't even have to grow produce on.
There are people that buy kirkland muffins from costco and repackage them to pass them off as “homemade” to resell them at farmer’s markets and cafes.
One note though is just because a farmer is using cardboard boxes does not mean they are resellers. We grow and sell at farmer's markets and go to aldi or lidl to get cardboard boxes that we repurpose and reuse because it is cheaper than buying a bunch of plastic containers. Other than that, thank you for doing this to make people aware!
Your way seems more Earth friendly to me by repurposing the cardboard boxes than using plastic ones. Since it is way more toxic to make plastic products than cardboard. Also plastic takes a really long time to break down and when the plastic does breaks down it turns into microplastic and ends up every where.
@@deseraecannon-mcdonald7630 How long something takes to break down is irrelevant if you intend to keep using it
Thank you I was going to comment on this as well!!! ❤️❤️❤️ At my markets it's a combination and I know the growers are legit!
The logos on the boxes should be the giveaway. The contents don't match the description, usually.
The out of season, out of area is pretty reliable. Here in Ireland we wouldn't get citrus fruits at all or strawberries outside summer. Lots of potatoes, cabbage, turnips, and apples year round though if they're kept right.
Thank you for reusing. People would be shocked to learn how much this recyclable material doesn’t actually ever get recycled, even when put into the recycle collection bins!
We had an issue with this in Canada with a company using farmers markets across the region to sell cheap mass produced goods at artisanal prices. There were legal repercussions for them because of their misleading practices.
I herd about that from a re upload of a Canadian show. I forgot the name, bit they reveal the truth on some scams
Remember when strawberries tasted like strawberries
@@ms.pirate It's called Marketplace, and it's produced by CBC.
Good! It's false advertising and should be treated as such.
@@SenshiSunPower I love market place. Government taxes well spent :) (It is government financed, independent news). CBC News is great too and I find it is quite comprehensive when it does deep dives on the subjects I am actively informed on.
The market managers need to do better and protect the farmers. We use to sell next to a man who did this, turned out his brother was a wholesaler. All his produce looked like it belonged in a supermarket. The market manager would be all over us if something we sold wasn't on our cert (we grew tons of varieties). Meanwhile Mr.Safeway was free to sell while pretending to be the farmer and blatantly lying to customers.
Ran into this last year, noticed a woman selling tomatoes that looked exactly like the bland, generic tasteless stuff they sell in the supermarket all identical, no blemishes or misshaped. Was legitimately curious about it and I asked her about what cultivar they were and she had no idea what I was talking about then when I explained it she said they were beefsteak which they so, so clearly were not. Scammers!
Came across this myself in Illinois in early May. Tomatoes with the stickers still attached 😄
OMG, yes!! One of my fave farmers market spots literally imploded when folks started finding out there were only like three real farmers. The rest were just reselling store bought foods. Turns out a non farmer took over the collective after the founders took ill and just corrupted it for profit. Most vendors were her family and friends. It was so sickening to find it all out.
Our Farmers Market will immediately kick out anyone caught re-selling. The FM board members even go to individual farms to verify the farmers are growing what they're selling.
Our market has different color signs that must be displayed. One color means locally grown. One says resale meaning they didn’t grow it and it’s origin isn’t local. Homegrown means the seller is the farmer.
Why even have resellers at all? They add nothing of value. If you find out where they bought it all you can just go and spend less.
I once went to those roadside farmers stands to buy fruits. I asked for watermelon and the guys mouth slipped and said "I have to go back to Walmart to get some more" I'll never forget that! So I don't look at them the same anymore
Still stop at them! Just be sure to ask, and follow the videos advice... Rule of thumb, even if you get tricked, those stands are not run by rich people. You're not exactly giving money to oil tycoons.
Justin, we invited you years ago to come to our Authentic Farmers Market in the Desert.
We would personally go and inspect the farms, and not leave it up to just the State Program. Keep up the great work…
Love your Farmer, Become the Farmer 👩🏻🌾.
Hugs
There's no sensational news in the fact that you follow the rules. That's why he never got back to you. You aren't worth it monetarily.
This was happening at the farmers market by my house in Chicago. The huge tent was doing whole sale stuff. I found a small set up and it was a farmer from Michigan. They would load up their truck every Sunday and drive out and do several farmers markets a week or until they were out of produce. He always had huge bins of squash, zucchini, some bell peppers, wax peppers. It was $6 to fill a large bag. I loved supporting them. Covid killed many farmers markets around my house though
I knew someone who owned a "health food" store. The produce manager at one of the local chain grocery stores would call him when they had fruit that was going bad and practical give it to him. He would take it to his store, mark it up three times the original grocery store price and it would sell out. People said that since it wasn't perfect, like at the grocery store, they knew it was organic or not grown on a corporate farm for a chain store.
Lol
well at least it didn’t get wasted like so much does
Less food waste, and pretentious rich people who don't care where their food comes from lose a little more money. If he paid his employees well I'm okay with that... As long as he stays out of the pop up markets.
I always ask open ended questions because even though I understand everyone is trying to make a living, don’t cutthroat the true hardworking farmers doing it as a living.
can I just say as a farmer we use plastic bins also as well as boxes a lot of the seed comes in them and therefore we reuse them. often the seed companies don't take them back.
Yes! Exactly! My father in law even uses banana boxes from the store his father collects because stuff leaked sometimes and the cardboard is good for the planters especially when soaked with juice
Calif is SUPER strict about Resellers not being able to act like farmers. Theres plenty of vids out there about it. Even if you ask the vendors if they are the farmer, its not good enuf. Look in their trailer etc.
idk if it is that strict... Every farmers market in Solano county is chock full of resellers. I don't even think I've ever seen an actual farmer lol.
@@TheNativeTwo I have been to the farmer’s market in Santa Monica, near the 3rd Street Promenade and they have to prove they are a farmer. You can definitely tell with the people there. I’m from Canada and a farmer’s market I went to was on the CBC network about this kind of problem. I’m extremely careful of where I buy.
When you’re in California, many growers are also going to sell their crops to produce companies. So yeah, it’s not surprising. You can tell resellers when they have imported goods from Mexico or South America. But resellers typically stick to flea markets and farmers stick to farmers markets.
The last time I went to a """" farmers """" market there were more tourist crap type booths than locally grown farm vegetables and fruits and eggs and things that are the reason I would go .. so I don't go anymore ...
Right! Shopping local really isn’t always. Actually it’s rarely grown locally. Know your farmers. Thank you.
Absolutely! We have Amish that do that here. A guy we know walked around an Amish stall and looked in the small box trailer that they had and saw branded blueberries that they were using to fill up their own pint containers.
Our farmers market doesn't allow resale, but the Amish clearly do. They have tomatoes in June, which just doesn't happen in Ohio.
Not sure if it's the algorithm but I have been stumbling across a lot of content and comments about how shady the Amish actually are!!
@@CassVanCat I definitely don't mean to insinuate that all Amish are shady- we know some lovely people in that community.
@@ramtharthegreat you are crazy
Plant tomatoes in march or April and you’ll have tomatoes in june
Our local farmers market is super strict about what vendors are allowed to sell. Every vendor must have on site inspections twice a year and must have their farm located within a 50 mile radius. I’m sure there are still folks who manage to sneak by, but I feel better about purchasing from them when nobody on my gravel road grows/sells what we need.
Calif is VERY strict about it too
I used to sell my produce at our local farmers market until I discovered that multiple other vendors were traveling out of state to buy truckloads of wholesale produce, bringing it back and selling it there. When I complained to the organizer/president of the farmers market that this was not ‘locally grown produce’ as all their flyers boasted, she told me it counted as ‘local’ because the vendors lived in the area. It was crazy. I eventually stopped selling there as I could not compete with the prices of these ‘local vendors’.
My family farm grows apples and grapes. When we’re in season we have zero time for taking produce to market. We are thankful for the folks who buy from us keeps cash flow coming. What ever happens after the fact is still respectable in our eyes. Thanks for sharing ❤
Haha. Here in Pennsylvania NY and NJ that’s What ALL “farmers markets”are.
That's crazy. We have a small farmer's market down the street here in Denver. I know almost all the produce sellers are real urban farmers. I am happy to pay extra to support what they're trying to do. ❤
Basically. It's pretty obvious really.
I generally assume people are reselling things bought wholesale, unless stated otherwise. I don't have a problem with it, everyone has to make a living and most will tell you the products origin if you ask.
if you live anywhere near harrisburg/dillsburg/lemoyne you should go to paulus farm market! everything is in season, grown right there or at their orchard about an hour away, and you can even go pick flowers yourself at their u-pick field. anything they don't grow themselves they source from other local farms, and they have a precious petting zoo with a bunch of goats, sheep, and other cute animals that you get to feed produce too. a little piece of heaven just about 15 mins down the road from the local walmart
Not all farmers markets. I am in NJ and there are some go to that are actual farmers that have picked the produce.
Yup. I’ve had issues with this in my area. So much so, that I now mostly opt to go directly to the farms. There was one group at a farmers market in the past selling store bought veggies and they forgot to remove the store stickers.
This is such a problem everywhere that in Canada, there was a big news story on their national news about it a few years ago.
Years ago when I worked downtown in NYC there was a Farmers Mkt. that drew huge numbers. People would go during their lunch hour. Came to find out the Amish tents baked goods were just Entenmann’s. They found the boxes in the garbage.
I suspect one of the people at my market is doing that. I noticed that their setup was very similar to sales grocery stores would have. If they were selling strawberries, the next week the stores would have them on sale. Same with peppers, potatoes, etc.
Does your market not do "farm" inspections? That helps weed out the false "farmers"
I remember my first farmers market bubble bursting. Bananas. In Brooklyn. Oh wow I didn’t know you could grow bananas upstate. Or is it New Jersey? Please the only thing the yellow was a big sign to stay away.
Report them. Call your health department, it’s a valid concern. Call the police non emergency call the town hall call the business and records rain it down on them. They’ve shown themselves to lie and cheat and not be secretive about it, who knows what else they’re cutting corners on and actually trying to hide. Produce from the grocery store is already SO OLD compared to farm fresh well obviously. Who knows if they have proper licenses, imagine if the peppers they got at grocery store were recalled for some nasty contamination that got people ill, and they sold people those sickly peppers and something happened to the ones that ate theirs. Just a whole mess.
If I found someone like that at my farmers market, I’d take my photos gather up some proof store sales and farmers market I’d get myself on the docket at the next town hall to propose bans on farmers market reselling and hefty fines and shut downs for violations. The real farmers will support this, that reseller is stealing business from them and eroding public trust in farmers markets, not to mention public health! Sorry I am very passionate about food sovereignty and your scammer just makes me wanna have a word with him like can you be any more unethical? I wouldn’t be surprised if he was breeding dogs out of his back yard
Hey, I grow and sell mushrooms and use cardboard boxes. I 100% sell my own stuff. So cardboard boxes isn't a good indicator of legitimacy. So don't make generalizations!
That bothers me when I see it, I usually ask them how they grew it in Ohio?
Best farmers market I've ever been to was while travelling in Ohio. They had the best peaches outside of Ruston, La. I still have my flower pot shaped coffee mug. Witten
Indoor farm
After last week I REALLY want to know if it was grown in Ohio
@@katherinestojanovski6734 And?
A customer asked a local NYC farmer why they didn't have bananas and the farmer replied "the monkeys are them" LOL!
When I worked in a bakery a lady would come in every week and buy pies and many other things to sell at the farmers market. She paid full retail... So I can only imagine the markup for her farm made baked goods lol.
I sold at the Farmer's Market last year and was very surprised that people were doing that! My booth looked pretty empty at the beginning of the season because they were PACKED with produce they bought from California! I'm in Utah. I couldn't believe it! People kept asking me why I didn't have more produce, and I'd have to tell them it's because it wasn't in season here yet. 😬 There are also "farms" around town that remove all evidence of wholesale produce so it looks more like they grew it. Yikes! Don't be afraid to ASK!
We grow produce in NC and last year was our first year selling at the farmer's market. I know of at least 1 reseller at our farmers market. My mindset is they aren't worth worrying about because they aren't true farmers. However, I do realize from a customer standpoint this is frustrating. I see people selling baked goods with no ingredients list. I see a lot of no price signs displayed. A baker reselling candy and soda.
Heck yeah thanks for this PSA! Everyone needs to know this. They're almost like the drop shippers of farmers markets lol
I worked for the NRCS of the USDA. Our office was in a small town in hill country Texas. Since we were the closest thing to an agricultural authority that some of those people knew of, we would get sooooo many complaints about resellers at farmers markets.
We had to direct them elsewhere bc the NRCS doesn’t handle that but it broke my heart for them bc a lot of that area were farmers. Most of our board members themselves were farmers.
I used to deliver produce and we delivered to farmers markets all the time. The actual market was buying from us. Not to mention all those Amish stands you see on the side of the road especially in Pennsylvania, I'd guess 90% of them had us and other companies delivering directly to their stands. Certain ones would only accept deliveries during the early morning hours 4am to 7am to purposely avoid being seen by customers.
If you’re in the Naples area, mostly fakers. Gotta go to Ft Myers or Immokalee for the real stuff. We live in the Ft Myers area and are starting our micro farm/ urban homestead in a traditional suburban neighborhood.
Even in NYC at the Green Market at Union Square, there is a % of these fake vendors that resell fruits/veggies/baked goods they buy wholesale...you can always tell by their branding. Most real farms take pride in their signage that promotes their actual farm.
Our state-supported market near me has open shelters for things you grow/raise/make yourself and a retail building where vendors can sell things that don't grow here, like lemons and pineapples. But these are definitely good tips. Thanks.
The Mennonites here in Maryland do this. Drives me crazy. Needless to say, we take our business elsewhere.
Call them out on it. Catch em in the act.
Tell the customers how cheaply they got it vs. what they're charging. Maybe they don't quite realize how dishonest it is.
I had a guy selling corn he claimed he grew himself....in early may...in NY. Not possible. Corn wasnt even planted yet in my area 😂 but everyone was buying it up
Blame the famer's market organizers - they should be inspecting the farms/facilities for each seller. At least the markets I know of do.
That is what I call Funny....... that's a good way to point out the obvious. But so many people would not know what to look for, because people have lost their common sense.
I hate when any vendors do that. Absolutely love the "We are farmers." jingle.
I died when that came up, I was waiting for the rest of it
This is 100% correct. I personally used to deliver the same products to the big chain grocery stores as I did to the “local” farmers market. And I did so in a Safeway truck.
Some people do the same thing here in Bristol Tennessee where my wife and I live. Except they buy the produce and in-store baked goods. With the baked goods and breads they will rebag them and label it with a generic label with Homemade. One stand a couple was selling bananas and plantains as locally grown produce. They will also advertise the vegetables as home grown as if it was produced on their land.
I saw a video about this from 3 years ago, they really investigated it, one vendor even had the stickers still on the peppers!
Name of documentary
You would be shocked how many vendors will look you in the face and say I grew this meanwhile there are literally stickers on the produce.
This is one reason why we won't sell to wholesalers. Perhaps there's good money in it, but I feel like allowing them to pose as farmers is not only deceitful to customers, but it also creates more sales competition for us.
Imagine being outsold by your OWN products because someone you sold to is marking the prices down and outselling you as a result.
I'm a grower that sells at Farmers Market and our rules prohibit reselling. There are always other sellers set up road stands that have sweet corn a month before its locally ready and they try to pass it off as their own. When the local stuff is finally ready to sell, we have to explain to customers that corn they bought a month ago was trucked in from Georgia and they got ripped off. Amish produce keeps popping up around here too because they have large produce auctions where anybody and everybody can buy or resell produce from where ever. I get to compete with that crap.
I've sadly been very disappointed with Florida for this reason. So many other places have farmer/maker only markets.
There are some, but they are the smaller ones. The one in Chipley at the train depot is fatmers/makers only.
@@tylerw1976no one asked, but thanks anyway, predditor.
@@tylerw1976 that's what you all say, even when you're getting cuffed.
Check their fingernails and their clothes. Farmers don't usually have time to clean up before getting there
Yes! People up here in North GA do it all the time! I always ask where they get their products and produce from
Yes! I live in Montana and our growing season is short and so is our farmer's market. So I thought it was always weird how the hutterites always had a surplus "fresh" veggies at the start of the growing season. I figured it was because they had greenhouses. Nope...they go in every week to our local Sam's club and would buy out the veggies, repackage them and sell them as organic at double the price they bought them for. I no longer buy veggies from the hutterites. I also started my own garden...so there's that.
I'm down on the peninsula, Florida has gorgeous in season fruits and vegetables. Just follow what's in season.
Check the boxes. The tables may have big, "ORGANIC," signs, but look in the trash area for commercial, non-organic boxes.
we have a pretty big issue with Hispanic woman and children being dropped off at street corners trying to sell fruit and veg. It most likely people trafficked in trying to pay to pay back the wages they owe to the people that got them here. No clue where the food comes from. It's super sad. They drop them off early in the morning and don't pick them up until dark.
I had a guy go door to door reselling produce. Now, we only eat organic fruits and vegetables, but I felt bad so I bought a box. He had used his knife to cut up an orange and kinda forced a sample on me. I then got sicker than a dog. I had instant and severe salmonella poisoning. I was shivering and shaking and sweating for the next 5 hours. I will never again buy produce from someone who does not care.
It’s sad that they broke the law and took a dishonest path to enter our country.
@@0Chinese0Arithmetic0 it is sad that our country has very few ways of allowing immigrants to come to our country.
@@candace3116 they couldn’t improve their own countries. Why should they be allowed to take ours over? It is sad that you believe invaders have a right to take what is not theirs.
Just one Question? Just because she Hispanic ....What makes you think she's illegal? That's the most racist comment to make.
I would hope that we all had a heart like God and be the Jesus the example that we all need.
Hi Justin. Didn't recognize you at all until you started talking. Cheers. Yes. This happened at the Peterborough Ontario farmers market. A vendor was going to the wholesale market and selling as 'farm fresh.' Its lying. And most farmers don't spray their vegetables around here.
Yes!! The local “farmers market “ here in Vegas had very little fruit and vegetables freshly locally grown. I could tell most of it was bought from Costco. The same under ripe fruit from South America with zero flavor. Never again will I go there.
Omg! This has never even crossed my mind! I will be on the look out. Farmers markets are to support local farmers!
So true we had a guy set up as a farmer
Word got out that he bought expired products and sold them by side of road as if he had grown them..he no longer sells veggies ..Ask..like Justin said
then watch the body language.....
Vendors do stretch the zucchini..lol
As someone that farmed and sold at a market for many years; I use to get banana boxes and other containers from stores as they were free / really cheap.
It made more sense to me not only financially but because they are recyclable and weren't made with petrol chemicals.
But hey, you want to use that as a reason to not buy from me or others like me you do you we are probably going to make it perfectly fine without you.
As long as you told your customers, no problem.
@- if the customers think I bought the oranges that had my name & usda organic cert # on the bag from the grocery store and the oranges came in banana boxes then that is on them.
Thankfully 99.9999% of the people I had contact with werent internet morons looking for a reason to argue / be outraged about.
@@TLM-Nathan If they were in the origanal packaging, fine. You could have just said that instead of being rude.
Any who do so could put up a sign stating such if they feel those looking would not buy.
Even better put up sign telling folks if they bring you boxes you will give small discount. State it is because cardboard is biodegradable or can be used on ground instead of plastic in garden bed areas. By doing that it tells them dispite your cardboard you are offering small farm or homestead grown goods. They only come to get away from Corporate farm grown. Which is why those reselling should be outed. It is analigous to a non organic GMO growing Corp farm labeling their produce as non GMO & organic.
@@ThinkAboutIt-2x The 1 out of a thousand people that might not buy from me simply because I am reusing a box, which originally housed organic bananas not my oranges, isn't worth my time or the resources needed to make a sign. If they are that concerned they can farm their own stuff.
The problem we have is even with rules for farmers markets they don’t enforce. We grow everything we sell and if our neighbor wants to sell to us we let people know that we got from our neighbor.
That is popular in Florida. Some people don't care, but I do.
But also there are farmers who aren't interested in hanging out at a farmers market all day. 🤷 My uncle is a beekeeper. He sells all his stock to a local woman wholesale, and she takes care of the farmers market scene.
That was the issue I came across in NC. If it wasn't onions or sweet potatoes, it was purchased wholesale
There are things called greenhouses, and some farmers also do packing and may use cardboard boxes.
Our FM has a double standard. They'll allow southern Illinois sweet corn, for example, to be sold at our NE Wisconsin market before the true local stuff is ready. But they won't allow a local vendor who makes yarn products to also sell homemade soaps she gets from North Carolina to sell those great soaps. Ridiculous.
Yes, went to a Farmer’s Market in Fredericksburg, Virginia and all the “farmers” had grocery store bags & boxes in their stands and vehicles. They didn’t even try to hide it.
Maybe they were reusing those boxes and bags from other people. Ya know, reduce REUSE recycle?
But hey, better the judge someone based on your own ignorance than to use your brain or just ask them amirite?
@@TLM-Nathan shut it NATHAN
@@Fallout3ProHunter Here comes Mr Intellect to regale us with his enlightened wisdom.
Go step on a Lego.
@@TLM-Nathan we definitely stash boxes away from our Costco trips and we save and reuse regular store plastic bags. Maybe it’s a Midwest/rural thing to do.
@ramrod64k I sold at the Saturday market in Chico CA and also sold to various co-ops in the area. Five 10lb bags of navel oranges, which I grew in Orland, fit perfectly in the banana boxes so you can load / unload them easily.
Your inexperience / ignorance is on full display here. Maybe quit before you continue to make yourself look foolish.
When they still have the 4 digit grocery store sticker still on the produce. I have seen that many times.
100 % agree, they need to post a sign saying they are resellers, not farmers. It like no matter what is good for community, the ones wanting a quick easy buck have to demoralize it. eBay, FB Marketplace, Craig's list, offer up, they just ruin the whole purpose, buying from local.
I never knew this. Thank you for making me aware. I get everyone is on their own grind but I want to support farmers who grow the actual food. Thanks
One of the Amish stores does that here! I see Walmart products!
I saw Del's Lemonade in the background!!! Best frozen lemonade in the world!
Vendors REUSE boxes they pick up at stores
They are horrible about doing this in the Atlanta and “farm or apple” sellers. Get to know your local farmers if possible.
I saw a lot of this at our farmers market but luckily there were also legitimate local farmers present too. Everything he said is spot on…same for roadside “farm fresh” produce. Many times they’ll be in mass market boxes.
That's why I don't go anymore.
Used to grow and sell and people like that grew until they shut down our local market. I mean grew in numbers. We were outnumbered.
My farmers market makes you sign a contract stating if you sell any wholesale it has to be signed as such in 2 inch lettering at your booth. Other than that only goods grown, made, or harvested within 50 miles of the market is allowed and has to be sold by the entity that produced the good. I don’t hate on the resellers, there’s some stuff that just can’t be grown here. As long as they’re not trying to lie about it then they’re still welcome
That’s the thing to me too. Just don’t lie about it and it’s fine. Then people can choose.
The thing about boxes isn't necessarily true. I worked in a local black dirt farm in New York and they would purchase and reuse waxed boxes for certain produce or bulk orders. The black reusable crates were generally for display or things like potatoes, onions, garlic, mostly dry goods.
Been happening for years. California have tight regs for it, In Ontario Canada no regulations, It is wrong, those who claim they grow it and don't. We farmed in Canada. We sold it all and moved to Costa Rica in 2021. Now we plan to start a food forest here. We have awesome markets here.
Finally. Someone is discussing what I've always been irked about Farmer's Markets.
Which leads me also to wonder: in some states/provinces I've been, I've seen signs for "Farm Market" as opposed to "FarmERS Market." I suspect this may be a result of local laws requiring Farmers Market to only allow actual farmers to participate. Anyone know?
I too was about to say that our local product providers tend to use more cardboard than plastic. The plastic and wood totes of different designs tend to be the re-sellers unless the product needs to be iced. The one exception was a textile crafter who held thier back stock in a tall boy dresser moved by dolly to and from the truck to thier stall. A single dresser did become two.
Ours has to have a sign: grower (grows at least 80% of what is on their table), producer (makes at least 80% of what's on the table), relailer (those reselling things they bought)
I live in Iowa, when I go to the farmers market the growers from Iowa will accept EBT cards, all of the outside vendors will not. And that's how we pick who to purchase from.
Justin we need a project veritas style episode about this
I would have no problem as long as the product is clearly labeled with it's source. Say, labeled either 'homegrown', or 'outsourced'.
Our local farmers market a few years back got swamped with people coming in from out of town selling stuff they didn’t obviously grow themselves. I’m talking people coming certain days of the month on the dot with big vans full of boxes with fruits and veggies. They’d check prices on what the local farmers would be selling their stuff, and intentionally mark it down cheaper to have more people come to them and buy.
Not that the food is worse or anything compared to homegrown, and sure, that’s the free market at work doing it’s thang babygirl, but when you come to a rural area to take advantage of the sparse grocery stores/selections here, and you intentionally aim to root out the competition (the local farmers) that put in the effort every season… yea, it’s incredibly crappy. Got to where a lot of regulars stopped going and a few local farmers didn’t bother … they couldn’t compete because their selection was always limited to what they specialized in and needed to make a profit.
Thankfully, they came together and made a rule that you had to actually either be local or be a farmer to sell, and it cut back A LOT. Now the big out-of-townies with their loaded down vans and boxes are gone. There’s a few locals that don’t grow their own stuff, but they make a deal with farmers in other areas to sell their fresh fruits and vegetables at our local market.
So supply is bound to always be fresh with produce more on par with going from the garden to the table compared to garden, factory, truck, etc.
Now it’s back to the way it used to be where we have our usuals. The market is such a wonderful way for a community to engage amongst one another, and it’s always a treat to visit one to see what so and so down the road has brought this time for us to enjoy.
I miss the days when we all didn’t have to be suspicious of everyone being scammers all the time. I miss being able to go to a farmers market and know that everything there was locally sourced organic. It’s the responsibility of the people who run the farmers market to vet their vendors!
My husband n I grew a acre garden. We worked extremely hard. There were many vendors who didn’t put the work into there produce like we did. It was frustrating to see boxes from a local auction ( where grocery stores) bought from too come. It’s not what it used to be. But we had many repeat customers who figured it out. We used no chemicals. Need to ask the vendor and hope their honest.
Lmao. Going to a farmers market in the middle of the city is your first problem
As someone who was heavily involved in organic and farmers markets.
You are correct. But realize the seasonality of the products. Most markets start before seasonal products are in production. They are hedging the gap.
It isn’t good enough to ask. We had someone buying produce and reselling. They had wooden bins with produce in. When I asked they said they, their daughter and neighbour grew it. It wasn’t until a national TV show did a piece on this we found out they were buying from grocery wholesaler and reselling. They were still allowed to sell at Farmer’s market. A big clue to spot they are selling too many varieties of produce and out of season.
My father was a ‘dealer’ with stalls at the Minneapolis Farmers Market (largest open air market in the upper mid-west) for thirty years. There are hundreds of vendor’s there. My father was grandfathered into his ‘dealer’ status - meaning he bought wholesale and sold what he bought at market having grown none of it. He made a good living doing it.
As time went on they started pushing out the ‘dealers’. If you died or retired you lost your stalls unless a child assumed them.
Some growers thought this was great! Ironically though it’s this exact thing that effectively killed overall attendance and sales at the Market ever since…
Now you have 200 growers selling sweet corn at the same time, or tomatoes or whatever is in season at the time.
Dealers & the diversity they bring save the marketplace for everyone else essentially.
Here in Oregon I can forage much of my own from the mountains. Blueberries, elderberries, strawberries, and a couple variety of mushroom can be found.
I seem to excel at growing my own tomatoes. Most of my tomato plants will reach close to ten feet tall if stretched upwards. I’m not sure what I’m doing right with them. I dig a deep hole for each, make sure the soil is rich, cage them, and water them with aerated, compost tea.
FFA Forever!!! Let’s not forget our 4H people either.
They should be allowed to do that pisses me off
I’m in Illinois and I still grow a lot of veggies out of my region that come out good
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Yes! Funny you showed Naples, FL because I lived there when I was going to high school, and there were people at the farmer's market selling produce WITH THE STICKERS ON AND EVERYTHING!! That's when it hit me.... how many times have I been lied to? 😭
This is true. Am in a frugal group, and a lady asks how she can sell fruit, etc, at the farmers market for additional income. This is the same with local butcher and meat market. They get their meat from the whole seller from disturbution like grocery store.
Another tip is, if it has a sticker(one of those fruit stickers at the grocery store), they didnt grow it