Former nurse speaks out after sentencing in fatal drug error | Nightline
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2022
- RaDonda Vaught talks to Eva Pilgrim about her tragic mistake that left a patient dead and the unprecedented criminal charges and conviction that followed.
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The last time I was in the hospital every time I was given an IV medication, the label was read aloud by the nurse and checked by a second nurse. That protocol was very reassuring.
Yes. That IS current standard protocol.
Every IV medication? There a hundreds of IV medications. Only certain medications are checked by a second nurse.
Not all meds are checked by a second nurse. Only specific ones
@@maxalberts2003 medical person here. No its not. Should be but it is not
@@AB-cp3im well, maybe paralytics should require a second nurse. But you’d have to read the label at least once to know it was a paralytic
This is disgusting. They don't charge cops when they "accidentally" kill someone.
No, they just give them 22 years for accidentally killing drugged-up robbers because woke mobs demand it.
@@DefundTheFringes Oh come on Karen! There's a difference between a nurse who administers, by pure accident (and EVERYBODY agrees it was an accident), a dose of medicine to a sick patient and an animal dressed up in a nice blue uniform who presses his knee against a handcuffed man's neck for nine minutes until he is dead. If you don't understand how that math works then the critiques on your profile are absolutely correct. You ARE an idiot.
I mean they do but not as much as they should, shes getting what she deserves. You can't take jobs like this and make mistakes like that without consequences.
It's like taking a job as a teacher then not properly paying attention to kids, which results in one getting injured. Would you excuse a teacher in that moment and believe the "overworked" excuse? I'd hope not.
@epic style: if you really believe that cops get charged for “accidentally” killing someone you are a very stupid person
Ummmmm yeah they do. Look up the kim potter case.
To the family of the deceased. What a courageous action to forgive the nurse and let it be known that the family didn't want her to serve any jail time.
I hope if ever faced with a situation like that I have that level of integrity. I’m assuming that was her daughter. She raised a class act for a daughter.
i HOPE you realize that the opinion of the deceased's family shouldnt be allowed to dictate a sentence.
It's so easy for someone who doesn't work in the medical field to say. We are all human. Do you really think she doesn't think about that daily? There are so many doctors in this world who are willing to put so many people at risk or even kill them for money. Medical reps giving doctors faulty items and practicing techniques that are unsafe and do not work. Not one damn doctor has served time in jail. They still have a license and are still practicing. As this nurse took responsibility for her mistake. It was not 100 her fault. There were so many mistakes in the hospital that led to this tragedy.
I just wonder if the nurse looked a little different, if they’d still forgive her.
Sure. Real courageous. I'm sure the family hired a lawyer, sued the hospital, and benefited financially from the nurse's negligence on top of life insurance policies from a 75 year old woman. So courageous and brave to forgive.
I teared up when the family member of the woman who lost her life said that RaDonda was forgiven and didn’t deserve jail time. That must’ve taken an incredible amount of strength and compassion to recognize that it was a human error through all of the pain of losing a loved one.
You teared up when a woman forgave this person for killing her mil?? Weird
@@anyaskirko3201 mistakes happen. It’s easy to have your perspective and be angry, but it takes a lot of empathy to realize that anyone could’ve done that by accident. She did not intentionally kill her.
@@anyaskirko3201uh…. Huh? The strength of forgiving is incredibly moving for some. Not weird at all… it is more so that you would find that weird.
Imagine every time you try to get any kind of medication even if it’s just an aspirin or a bag of regular saline you have to hit an emergency override button. That system is clearly supposed to be for suspected medication errors or high risk drugs but instead it was flashing on everything so they had alarm fatigue regarding the system. They knew damn well they had a problem and they didn’t face it or fix it. Be loud with your complaints folks. Be persistent. write that incident report be detailed be objective. Make sure they know that you are worried about safety. It probably won’t do much in the long-haul but at least it happens you’ll have the legal means to say I told you so.
@@anyaskirko3201 this is an egregious error, yes, but imagine every time you go to get any kind of medication whether it’s an aspirin or a bag of fluids, you have a obnoxious warning that flashes across the screen that is definitely a mistake, and should not sound for every medication. So when something is actually wrong, you don’t notice it because that message pops up every time and I mean every single time you get anything. Not when you pull medication that has similar sounding names to high risk drugs. Not when you’re in a cart that is stocked differently than normal. Not when something that is not ordered for the patient has been pulled. No every single time. You ignore that alarm. That is just one small detail. this computerized system that dispenses medication’s was stocked with different drugs than the normal meds. And if I’m not mistaken, she was in an area of the hospital she did not normally work, which is something that nurses are constantly told they have to do even if it makes them uncomfortable because they’re scared they’re going to mess up.this hospital is sadly one of the best in Tennessee if not the nation and yet look at the things they are doing. Imagine other hospitals.
This is why we don’t need to work 12 hour shifts!!! As a fellow nurse my heart goes out to her!!! Rip to the patient as well!
12 hour shifts are the bonus of the job. What are you smoking?!?
hopefully not crack!
@@Schaferhund1 stop trolling and go on about your day weirdo. You probably smoke crack and aren’t even a nurse 🙄😂😂
12 hour shifts are not the problem here. It's not having breaks or help when needed that's bad.
Good to know you were more worried about the ALIVE killer than the dead patient.
So many people out there committing awful crimes intentionally and get away with probation or no consequences. An overworked healthcare professional makes an unintentional mistake and gets prosecuted and sentenced with a criminal charge. Something is definitely wrong with the system. So messed up!
She’s white she won’t be in jail
Right!? Justice needs to be an actual system or we should call it what it is, a lottery. That's what u get in California. Anyone can acuse you of anything and the burden of proof falls on victims all the time despite what the "law" clearly states.
@@HollyTrapwood you completely missed the point. It doesn’t matter what color, race, gender she is. In fact, using your logic, she should have been absolved from the beginning. and criminally speaking (regardless of race), it should have never been a criminal charge. Yet, she was prosecuted for a criminal charge that was an unintentional accident/mistake.
@@anchia7 I said what I said.
Disgusting right?. I hope the system gets fixed, because it’s horrible.
I left nursing a few years ago. Too much abuse. My peace of mind now is so much better.
I teach nurses for a living. They consist of some of the best people I have ever met. And because of that, I agree, people abuse them. It is absolutely heartbreaking the amount of shift work, drama, and more they have to take from everyone (outside of patients who can make it rough).
What do you do now ? You worked so hard to go to nursing school
me too
it wasnt for you then. go do something else
as a sick person whose been around a lot of nurses i both have a lot of respect for them and im terrified of them. because i have been on the other side of a nurses mistake a few times, and they arent always gracious like this woman. that being said i know that nurses are worked into the ground and the entire medical field operates horribly within capitalism. i would never dream of blaming a nurse for a systemic issue. all i ever hear in every hospital i am in is how they dont have enough staff, they have been working for 10-15-20 hours.... for everyones sake from nurses to patients, that needs to stop
I'm a nurse too and a doctor ordered me to give an insulin to patient. I read over the prescribed meds and I realized that the unit to be given was above the normal dose....the patient was a very small woman and the prescribed insulin was too high for her. Called the doctor and informed him and he changed it.
In medical field, especially nurses always check the meds beforehand.
is that all, coming from a Nurse like you. WTF
We’ll said I think your 100 💯 percent right , something weird about it
Yeah, I have been reading these comments all night to understand the nurse perspective. My aunt was a nurse and now a doctor. Some of them are nice but my aunt was always talking bad about clients and breaking HIPAA. There are so many protocols to follow, it seems, and there must also be an ethics code, I'm sure. Preventative protocols should be implemented.
With diabetics check their blood sugar readings before giving insulin more than size of patient I do it four xs a day for over5oyrs and I'm short and average weight with mody and been in hospitals on drip and administer my own jabs but if unable too my blood sugar needs checking before any one should jab me and I'm most grateful to nursing staff that have looked after me over many hospital stays AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL
I think every nurse has come across this sort of thing I remember a doc writing up a prescription for high blood pressure when in fact the patient suffered from low blood pressure what was interesting was the drugs from both high and low blood pressure only differed by a couple of letters in the spelling, they sounded very similar, this could have potentially killed the patient, it was the nursing staff who got the flack as the drug prescribed had been given by two previous shifts, the doc was never pulled up on it, says it all really.
It's always sad when a caring decent human being makes a huge mistake that costs someone else their life. I cannot even fathom the guilt that nurse must feel.
@@ketchum6455 how much money do you think nurse’s make?
@@pigeonboy7696 64K - 130K in Nashville where this nurse is from, even higher in larger, major metro areas
@@ketchum6455 common hey she was not for the money...hey without nurses during the pandemic do you really think that your doctor will save you or your family!!! You know who's at the bedside at all times when you sick in the hospital--- the nurses... Ket Chum.... Being a nurse is not easy!!! Working 12 to 16 hours a day ...can you freaking do that???
You’re probably a nurse yourself, that’s why you’re triggered?
@@ketchum6455 Yup and proud of it... without nurses you will not survive in the hospital, urgent care, clinic.... You need to see a shrink!!! Without nurses you will DIE!!
As a nurse for 32 years, I can only sympathize with her . She is accountable for her actions ( her RN license revoked) BUT at the same time, Vanderbilt has to be held accountable for its system’s failure. She was definitely made a scapegoat. I am praying for her, the deceased woman’s family and most of all for the deceased patient.
5 Rs sound familiar? She didn't check them did she? All on her.
She was reckless. And it’s really disgusting how nurses made some fake folk hero out of her!
@@amyroyall1014 that's a pretty brutal thing to say. The stress is nurses are put under shift after shift is enormous
@@tsteinyrn o.k and? Brain/heart surgeons are under alot of stress too, they literally have people's life in their hand.. you rarely hear about them killing people because of not paying attention then using the excuse their job is stressful
@@JordanWilliams-ix2td I meant ever word of it! I can’t imagine how the family of the woman who died feels, while nurses across the country defend her and blame everything and everyone but her. She’s no hero!
As a nurse i strongly sympathize with her. Working 12 hours shifts is the norm in most hospitals and it causes brain drain in most cases. My condolences to the family of the patient 😢
She saw a huge red warning on the bottle and still gave it to the patient,
@@kimmyymmik you don't know how tired you can be as a nurse, you really don't. I 100% believe that she was just that mentally exhausted to not even register the color.
@@glassycreek1991….eh, thats alarming as a potential patient lmao
@@bigphatemergy yes, i agree. Everyone should be alarmed at the conditions nurses are suppose to work in because ultimately the patient suffers. Advocate for fair patient to nurse ratios to help.
@@bigphatemergythen don’t be a patient? You don’t work as a nurse nor have done 12 hour shifts so shut up.
Save one life you’re a hero, save hundreds and you’re a nurse. I hope that she can remember all of those that she helped along the way as well.
Lose one and now you’re a murderer 🥺🤯 I just don’t understand this .
@5826patt because she didnt loose her she killed her accidentally but she killed her
Nurses don't save lives Doctors do get over yourself
There were so many things wrong with this scenario. From all the overriding to the type of medication ordered. I know she has to be held accountable for administering this medication, but the hospital has to be held accountable as well. I hope hospital administrators realize nurses need a safer environment in order to provide safer care and safer practices to their patients.
Exactly. As a nurse myself I can tell you if this hospital doesn't fix this issue it will happen again. You should never be able to override that frequently.
You are exactly right! I have several nurses and others working in the medical field in my family, and this is terrifying because humans are imperfect. We make mistakes. I don’t feel as though she should have been charged with homicide at all. Held accountable in some other way, yes. Convicted, no.
If you want to help, ask about the bills we're trying to get passed through Congress for safe staffing ratios and criminal charges for violence against healthcare workers. Don't expect an industry that makes money off of people's care to care enough to change things. They will use as few nurses as they can get away with. If you think I'm lying, check any nursing home.
@@DanceLife2012 so if that was your family you’d be ok with that? She kept overriding it & not paying attention to what she was getting, that’s literally her fault
@Seekthetruth5664 There is a reason it is called practicing medicine.
As a nurse working in one of the busiest ER’s in the country this scares all of us to death. Most nurses that I talk to about this have so much empathy for Radonda. We’re working under severe stress, multiple tasks, understaffed, high demand… NO ONE HAS YOUr BACK. This was a mistake. We’re humans! Im sorry for both families.
It would only scare incompetant, dangerous nurses. Nurses need to take responsibilty for what they do, like other professions. I have seen many professionals prosectuted for mistakes, why do you think nurses should be exempt
That incompetant nurse should have been jailed
@@youubik What about airline pilot error or those on a suicide mission. My grandmother was run over by the bus as she exit it I'm from Philly our mass transit system has no other competitors just Septa. This 3 ton bus on my grandmother's leg crushing it she was an independent 79 year old woman who had to have her leg amputated long story short she eventually died this was in 2003 she said on her last days on this earth "It was an accident and I forgive him " she made it to 80 years old. The bus driver was fired and of course we got some money for our grandmother but I love and miss her. I don't know if you have worked as a nurse if not volunteer at a hospital and believe me it 50% of documentation and 50% of doing the task By the way nurses are the largest employee of any hospital. You don't think nurses are exempt from punishment. I have one for you a nurse impregnate a vegetative patient. His name is Nathan Sutherland who is now an ex nurse but will be found guilty because this was an deliberate act and he will go to prison. You know who else I hold responsible is why anyone else in her care didn't recognize her not menstrual cycle and her belly. Also why wasn't the doctor assigned to her see her. You need a doctor's order to transfer a patient from long-term facility to the hospital.
Only another nurse can emphasize with you. I have been a nurse for 20 years and mistakes like this are rare. I don't know if you are new but I have told people who are in nursing school to focus on your education and passing your boards. I am disabled and people are saying that the newer nurses care more than the older ones. I tell them guess what new nurse get off the floors and they are advanced Nursing as a NP, Midwifery Educator and Nurse Anesthesiologist. SO be cautious not fearful and good luck.
@@nicolebailey4426 The air industry has a completely different model for accidents. They set up an independent investigation and the various stakeholders usually cooperate with them. In the medical industry there is no investigation and the medics do not cooperate and instead hide and destroy information
🙋♀️ nurse here for 20 years, in 20 years you think I haven’t made one mistake! I’ve definitely made them along the way and learned from every one. I’m still learning, I still ask questions. This is a tough profession
There's a big difference between making a mistake and manslaughter. I'd be careful what you admit to online.
@@NoMoreBsPlease yes granted my mistakes haven’t resulted in death or harm, I’m just saying this nurse did not intend for this patient to die. You can’t understand the pressure nurses are under, especially these days.
@@christinjones4542 Thank you for all you do
U must be an idiot then. Nurses made mistakes, from your mouth to your action.
@@NoMoreBsPlease You would be surprised by how many people die from medical error just from medication alone. A small mistake can easily lead to someone's death. There's a reason why people are hollering shorter hours, more pay.
Prayers for this nurse and the family of the patient. My husband had a stroke 3 years ago and spent 3 1/2 days in ICU. All his nurses were awesome. The entire stay I only saw 2 doctors. The first one went over the MRI explained some things the first full day at the nurses station. The 2nd one came in with a bunch of others another day to see where my husband was add medically. Never saw either again. It was his nurses and even the cleaning lady that filled me hope.
My husband has been in ICU for 2 weeks , I’ve seen a Dr Twice!! 2 times in 2 weeks!!
As a former nurse who also has lost my license, for a med error, my heart goes out to her. I'll never get over it
I'm with you my friend
Absolutely
Forgiveness, because you are only human just like the rest of us ❤ we all make mistakes and some we can't take back, only learn from them and to do better and go forward. 😊
She killed that poor woman by her incompetence where's she paints herself as the victim of a broken system. If you can't acknowledge the life & death seriousness of the medical profession go work elsewhere no one will miss you.
@@NS-ur5ss She obviously admitted instantly to what she did wrong. She was a scape goat. The hospital covered it up. Learn the facts. Go work in the hospital. Get your RN degree. You'll understand. She made a mistake that costed someone's life.
Recently retired Respiratory Care Practitioner of 33 years here. You have my heart ❤️ Dina. Not myself or you or anyone else that you know, who grinds it out in the hospital or recently retired from it, had any idea that we’d be running into a burning 🔥 house because any time we enter the hospital, we run into a burning house. We may all be standing side by side at the nurses station but we are only one person when it comes to repping our department or hospital intervention team which means we are essentially ALONE ! ! There’s no one there to help bail all that water out of a rapidly sinking dingy so yeah… things happen ok? I get that. But a little bit of supportive reassurance from HR never hurt anybody. If the everyday layperson was a fly on the wall in my ICU..? They’d be SHOCKED by the expectations that are so very often placed upon each and everyone of our shoulders every single time we punch in
I hope she finds peace. 😞 The family had more empathy for her than her employer.
Lies again? Drugs Guns AOZ PORN
No peace will ever come to her brain
I don't think you can have that in the same category a cop with somebody possibly have a gun on them and a split second to make a reaction to a nurse who has to move fast but has to read a bottle and double check what they're doing
She needs to sue Vanderbilt
@@alicehrndz2382 For what? Making 18 mistakes in a row and murdering someone? How is she not in jail...
I'm a pilot. We HAVE to have rest. Fatigue can kill us at anytime when we fly. This is the same for nurses and should be recognized!
AND professional commercial pilots also have checklists!!
I’ve been a nurse for 12 years.
First off, I hate this crap about “I can’t use the bathroom”. Yes you can! Go use the bathroom and ask your coworkers to cover you. No one is expecting you to not eat or use the bathroom.
Second, I’ve worked on a lot of floors and the main problem with nursing is nurses. So many of them are toxic, bullies who do not have any patience for new, growing nurses.
We have a saying “nurses eat there young”. If you don’t hit the ground running, you’re likely to get bullied by your staff members who don’t accept you’re learning. Then they turn around and complain about staffing shortages.
Just shut up.
I was almost forced out of the career earlier on because it took me extra time to grow. I was told how awful I was and how I was a bad nurse and I resigned before they could fire me.
Then, lo and behold, I moved to a larger, more prestigious hospital and I not only succeeded but won awards at my next job. Me being awful was just their opinion.
The key in nursing is to find a good floor with good people to work with. If you end up on an average floor with average, toxic nurses you’re going to hate this field. But if you can find a good floor with good people who work together and help each other, there’s no better field to work in.
This happens in all the trades. Not a coincidence it's happening in policing fire fighting military they have become clubs.
This is well said! I am finishing Nursing school and have experienced this first hand in clinicals. The nurses scoff and roll their eyes when asked if they will take a student. Nurse can be some of the most toxic people. I am glad you found where you fit in @morninggland
@@Voicenreason247 no it especially happens with nurses
I was going to be a nurse except for the fact that I hated other nurses
My granddaughter was training to be a nurse and was bullied by the nurses in her work placements. My niece had the same problem.
The fact that it was “normal” to override medications like that is extremely concerning
And unexceptible by Al means I'm so sorry but sorry just don't cut it for me 🙂
A whole life was taken
I've been following this case for years And I read the entire 56 page cms investigation. it's my it's my understanding that every nurse at Vanderbilt was having to override medications all day long during that time period.
So if every nurse followed the rules exactly and didn't override any medications, then nobody would've gotten their medications and lots of people would have probably died.
Even if their system was functioning properly, there are legitimate reasons to override. Remember, the override function exists for a reason. It's used fairly frequently.
I'm just saying it's a very complex situation and override in itself isn't the problem.
@@jennakhivkapratt8751 Thank you for the information😊 I’m just curious though, if that’s the case then what is the point of the override function? Was it meant for the nurses to wait for a doctor’s approval? I don’t understand that
@@princessangerloo5905 good question. The normal process is provider (MD, DO, NP, PA etc) order, pharmacist checks it out and clears it then it will show up in the medication machine under the patient's profile.... If everything works properly and pharmacy is adequately staffed.
You need an order to give the medication but not necessarily to obtain it.
Imagine you're a patient in the hospital and the antibiotic you were just given made your blood pressure drop and break out in hives (a reaction). You call the nurse who contacts the doctor. The doctor orders IV benadryl. It's urgent and you can't wait until the pharmacist gets around it. You can't wait for the Nurse to troubleshoot a problem in the system. The nurse would have obtained that benadryl while still on the phone with the provider most likely. She gives you the benadryl and monitors your blood pressure.
The list of what's available on override is reviewed by committees regularly and it is limited. Unfortunately sedatives and paralytics both need to be on the override list in an ICU.
Vanderbilt had just changed their whole computer system and apparently it wasn't talking to the medication machine properly.
It's a terrible situation and Radonda is accountable but Vanderbilt is also and they tried to cover it up.
I don’t think people understand that this also a problem with the medical system, under staffed, long exhausting hours, and you don’t expect a mistake to occur? These errors occur all the time in the hospital and it’s absolutely horrible, but she is not the only one making mistakes in the hospital setting.
Medics make mistakes everyday of the week, but the scumbags usually cover their tracks
they made a CHOICE to have that job. i have no sympathy for them
Her unit was not understaffed.
@@Biscuit9891 but no one chose to work under the conditions they work in! I’m a retired RN and the load of patients, their level of care, lack of breaks, no meals or bathroom breaks, the stress of being overworked, yelled at by patients family and/or doctors WILL take a toll on you!
Something a nurse does during his/her shift that isn’t intentional should NOT be criminalized! That’s just insane! It’s never happened before. There’s been nurses in the past that have administered the wrong medication and caused harm or death to the patient but no criminal charges were ever filed! Why now??
@@Biscuit9891 Why do people like you always victim blame and say dumb statements like that. It probably means you work a meaningless job with no stress.
I’ve been an ICU nurse for 20 years. I am for nurses getting the benefit of every doubt. I’ve oriented countless nurses to both surgical and medical ICU. I can’t get my head around how she made this particular med error.
Finally a comment by someone who has a brain.
@@WickedTimes one of the ICU nurses told me “the only way she could have made this mistake is if she’d never given either drug before.” I’d never thought of that but it makes so much sense.
I can’t either. If she’s never given either then look it up! It’s super easy now. We all have phones and google
@@Carrie-uo4jn for sure! The drugs vials for those meds are so different. Versed is 2mg/ml or 4mg/2ml. Vec is like 10mg/10ml. I just don’t understand.
There are several steps before she even gets to the medicine, and then she has to pick it out, using the color of the cap for one, and to the actual words on the bottle.
After spending 25 years as a registered nurse I can tell you that I’m not surprised by this mistake. I know from experience that most nurses are subjected to patient over loads, taking care of way to many patients most of the time, being made to feel guilty if you call in sick, etc. we’re always told in orientation to not come to work if sick, especially if you might be contagious but if you do that your are treated like your not a good nurse and are spoken to like your letting the team down. Frequently being asked to work back to back shifts. This went on the entire time I worked as a nurse. They never have enough staff. Never. After finally going out on disability at 55 because of two herniated discs in my back from the physical strain of the work and lack of adequate help I had to have surgery. My back will never be “fixed” but at least I can stand up fairly straight most days but every minute I am awake I am in some kind of pain. I am no slouch and I worked my butt off and am quite a tough cookie if I do say so myself but nursing is the hardest job I ever had. Pretty thankless sometimes too. We do it because we want to help others but we should have the support of the administrators, adequate help and better working conditions. Is that really to much to ask? Charging her with homacide is just a bridge to far. Accidentally killing a patient is a horrible experience but it was an accident. The patients family treated her with more kindness and forgiveness than the judicial system did. Good way to make sure no one decides to go into nursing in the future.
Unfortunately the vast majority of the public aren't nurses, and they don't care. After covid I have zero faith or respect for the public.
I’m in nursing school. I’m taking dosage calculation right now. I’m telling you this is my BIGGEST fear. I can’t imagine what she’s going through.
Well I have been a nurse for 20 years. 1998-2019 I had to stop due to my disability. Listen I worked at several places and a situation like this is rare. Right now you are in nursing school I think right now you need to focus on your education and passing your boards. Once you finish these tasks you will be so happy you will forget this incident.Medication errors are the most common mistakes that nurses make.I will tell you that being a new nurse you would be oriented for a long time every hospital is different. I will tell you if you are ready to give out your medication. Do not be distracted. Sometimes a relative may do this. Unless it's not an emergency be polite and say I will be with you in a moment.Focus on your medication remember the 5 rights that they teach you in nursing school. Make sure your patient has the correct ID bracelet and medication. I know they have scanning system to prevent medication errors. While some people like it but an old head like me hated because I thought it was time consuming but you have to follow protocol. I tell any brand new nurse don't be in a rush to get a job in nursing as a nurse intern. Get your license 1st that job isn't going no where. Follow your policy and don't be afraid to ask questions. Also if you are asked a question and don't know the answer it's OK to say I'm not sure but I will find out for you. Sometimes stating outloud not screaming what you are about to do so you are aware of what you are doing. Even labs draws have been a mistake. Usually the technicians are responsible for this depending. where you work. I know at my former job I never had my blood type and screen before. The lab will process my level however because I never had type and screen the lab department will require a different person to draw my blood for a proper comparison. Be cautious not fearful good luck
@@nicolebailey4426 Thank you. This means so much.
@@kimking5928 you are welcome my niece is a new nurse also so I try to give her advice.
Why cannot an algorithm and a computer do the calculations and with safeguards built in before it gets to the nurse's hands? Why do you as a nurse have to make the calculations?
@@e.t.ethics1771 I am reviewing the video over again and you are asking a different question not your fault. The medication scan did tell her the medication was wrong, however it has done this to correct medication example a laxative and we have to scan it 3 X or some nurse will seek another nurse to check if it is OK. I don't know what nursing schools are doing now and some nursing positions will mandated that you pass a medication test. I will try to answer your question the computer does nursing calculations for the nurse for example a heparin drip based on your Ptt lab level it will correct the rate and before scanning and changing the rate another nurse has to check your changes as it's written. My issue here is she is a new nurse herself why is she orientating an new nurse.She is working on a very critical floor. She graduated school 2017 then she gets her license she has to prepare to take this test. Most nurse graduates it takes 2 months for the passing a license. Ok this new nurse is planning to go to ICU neuro well in alot of cases you have to work a step down unit before ICU. Then once you get on ICU unit a new nurse will be able to work by themselves 3-6 months. Ok she is still new nurse and she has to orient,another nurse and she allows her self to be distracted by another nurse determine if the medication is correct and it's not. No matter what steps nurses take you will always be blamed. Why? Because you are the one who is actually administering the medication and in this case outcome was tragic. I think what will happen is the pharmacy will have to remove the medication out of the nurse's reach.( the medication that is considered dangerous). Unfortunately if you kill someone you will get fired and probably lose your license to practice. I hope I was able to answer your question.
The Murphy family standing up and advocating for keeping the nurse out of prison is beautiful to me. Class acts.
She deserves prison
They are hurt but realize this wasn't intentional. My grandmother lost her leg to a transit bus driver. While I was angry my grandmother said on her final days on this earth, it was an accident and I forgive the driver. So I felt if she could forgive then so shall. I believe that the family in this case knew their loved one ❤️. I used to be a Registered Nurse for 20 years and I am disabled now so you have to provide safe care. Alot of changes are going to happen in Healthcare because a result of understaffed has been an issue with nursing for years. I feel bad for everyone involved.
Hospice???????
I'm glad the nurse did not get prison.
But can't really expect to do this with NO consequences.
100%, some families would not have been so understanding.
this is WHY when i work with trainees/orientees, I TELL THEM THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I CAN TEACH YOU IS "SCAN YOUR MEDS". ALWAYS! this will not happen if she scanned it. my previous full time hospital wants nurses to scan meds 98% of the time or they'll call you out. it'll only take a minute, scan it!
!!This made me cry!!! I had considered a career in the medical field and this is EXACTLY what prevented me. Too much on the line if you're not 'perfect' . Takes a special kind of bravery and Thank GOD there are ones out there to take the risk.
That's why EMT/Paramedic is the way to go.
@@Michael-gs8ogbut there is no money in those fields.
@@certifiedlover2748 There are, if one moves up to management!!!
Who's making it about money? Don't do that it'll never be enough
@@certifiedlover2748 It's called money management.
EVERY medical person has made at least one mistake in their career. I’m glad that the family forgave her.
True. However, most of us haven't had a critical error that killed someone.
@@triciagrant2315 agreed
Yes they made one with my wife they killed her baby
And everyday someone is overdosed in a hospice “palliative care” (not every facility, but most facilities) : my insurance mans brother-in- law , friends father , bank tellers mom , my customer … weak in the legs, everything else works great and a day later they’re in a “chemical coma” joints locked, cant poop , occasionally slightly come out of it just to hallucinate, and they give them more morphine on a sponge without hydration , black fingernails, pronounced dead
But mistakes that do not kill are not reviewed for criminal negligence.
I was a nurse & needed my gallbladder out. These nurses mocked me. Anaphylaxis ER heart hospital saved my life but office staff, nurses & some weirdo “case managers” none medical refused follow up.
Those nurses and office staff retaliated. 12-3-2011 to date that anaphylaxis not followed up 8-31-2022 is proof how disgustingly neglected and maliciously terrorized!
Sorry she feels justices in her error.
My condolences to the family who lost their loved one. How devastating. This nurse clearly shows remorse and my prayers that she finds peace.
My family that are nurses give their all. This is a disgrace! Not only should she be allowed to be a nurse. The hospital should pay for the inappropriate management of their systems. Blaming the person and not the system is a typical quick response. But we need to go deeper to understand why and how to prevent another tragedy.
But is it sincere? Sounds like a lot of I screwed up., but... and but... and but.....
@@Pallidyne1 she takes responsibility for what she did. Clearly you can see the utter pain in her eyes.
@@Pallidyne1 where do you get that? Weirdo
@@Pallidyne1 At this moment you are a pain in my heart.
This happens in the Veterinary Nurse world too 😔 unfortunately deaths get covered up far too easily and too frequently in the veterinary industry.
I've experienced it as a pet parent.
Been a nurse 10 years. Worked as an anesthesia tech for 8 years. Point is, I’ve been around these medications for 18 years. The biggest red flag I see is vecuronium comes prepared as a powder and midazolam (versed) comes prepared as a liquid. If she accidentally pulled out vecuronium she would of then had to take an additional step to reconstitute that medicine into liquid form. That right there should have triggered her brain…when have you ever had to reconstitute versed? Every Hospital I’ve worked at vecuronium comes in a vial in powder form. So what does that mean? If she was busy and had to quickly give some anxiety meds for a patient going through a scanner (which is very common) she would of grabbed her vial of versed. But she didn’t, she grabbed vecuronium, which was most likely a vial filled with powder. THATS THE CRUCIAL POINT. A seasoned icu nurse would know you never have to reconstitute versed. But what could of prevented this? She obviously didn’t look at the vial when drawing up med.
That’s what i thought too. Like did she even read the bottle ? I’m in the medical and give injections all the time and i make sure I read that vial more than once and check the chart to make sure after I’ve drawn the meds just to check one last time.
Agree. She skipped every safeguard, and besides skipping the 3 checks and 7 patient rights of medication administration, she apparently didn't even recognize the drug form! Inexcusable!
I agree, I worked ICU for 10 years. Versed comes in a tiny brown bottle. Vercuronium is in a medium size bottle that has to be made into a liquid. One never ever gives Vercuonium without giving versed or MS as you don't want the patient to be paralyzed and conscious. So as you are mixing Vercuronium you are also getting versed or MS ready to give. Vercuronium is only ever given to someone on a vent. When I was with a nurse on orientation I was always walking and talking my thoughts to the nurse in training.
But this was a mistake and the hospital needs to be held accountable for not having a better system.
Go take several seats. It bully know it all so called critical care nurses like you that make the profession horrible. Shut up!!!
Systemic errors is what the findings was.
The mercy and forgiveness that the victims family showed on Radonda is really admirable. Wish there was more of that in today’s society.
Right !
Couldn't be me, My loved one would have still been Alive if the nurse was paying attention To a bottle with a blatant red cap that said the medication name & what its used for CLEARLY right on the bottle. She's had SEVERAL mistakes giving meds before this one as well, it's on sight forever for me
Exactly
Dadonda should be locked up for manslaughter.
Because it was an accident?
The hospital should have shared accountability.
Yes. Because too many times nurses are expected take on too many patients.
What? 🤔 why do you think that the hospital should be held accountable for one of their employees mistake? I’m trying to understand your logic but I just can’t
For now on all nurses will stop reporting their errors with fear of been criminally charge
Absolutely.....the more patients you are assigned....the higher the possibility of medical errors.
@@Materialgirl_3 Pharmacy should have received an alert as soon as the drug was removed and contacted the nurse and the doctor to verify and to provide respiratory support to the patient. BIG system FAILURE.
Firstly may the family find comfort during such loss. My condolences. Secondly, I can tell you in full confidence that this was indeed the final nail to the coffin of many nursing careers during the shift of the nurses in the hero to zero pandemic. Lastly may Rodonda know that she helped open the eyes of a nation that needed to be opened.
A few years ago I had a surgery and was given a drug prior to going under. I later received a letter saying that the medication had the wrong label on it and I was given something else. Thankfully it wasn't a drug that could hurt me, my point is there are medical mistakes that can happen even before the drug gets to the hospital. My heart goes out to all involved, mistakes happen, most only cause an inconvenience, I hope this nurse can forgive herself someday.
I’m a lab tech. I’ve worked under extreme conditions at a hospital to the point where it would be impossible to not make a mistake. You can only push a human so far. Negligence is one thing, but hospitals are notorious for putting workers in overwhelming situations to where taking half a minute to check your work is not possible. That’s why I quit.
Amen!
I’m a new lab tech and definitely felt this today 😓
Each individual is responsible for making sure they are not overwhelmed and not exhausted.
@@guyarrol582 that’s true. Everyone tells me you gotta take care of yourself first always!
Exactly the same for me. Good for you! ☺️
I waited at the doctors office for 6 hours a few days ago when I tested positive for COVID-19 and the doctor who came in - immediately I could see how exhausted she was. She told me she was on a 12 hr+ shift and still wasn’t going to be able to go home after me. The receptionist was eating lunch at her desk at 7pm because she was there for so long too. This is what these nurses and doctors have to go through and it’s ridiculous.
I forgot to pee for 6 hours one day, my first and last UTI. Never again…take care of yourselves nurses
This is kind of the situation in every country in the world. This makes me sick
I used to work ICU and after a long shift, they would beg us to stay and work another shift - all because of so-called "Managed Care (neglect)" cutting down on nursing staff.
Mental heath therapist have the same work schedule
@@Candy-sy6eoyes and nurses must start standing up in UNITY and say no. For 40 years, I have seen there is NO real state or national leadership for registered nurses. Teachers have unions that fight like lions publicly for teachers. Some nurse unions fight but mostly just for pay but more they should be doing. When will the nurses decide to stand up in unity and speak out? We seem fine just going with the flow.
“you don’t point your finger in health care, you hold yourself accountable and ask what could I have done better, what could “the team” have done better” - best attempt at accountability from a nurse ever
I’m so sorry for this nurse. Also so sorry for the family of the lovely lady who died❤️🥲
I'm a veterinary nurse and it is SO easy to make mistakes when you're overwhelmed with patients and you're burnt out, exhausted, emotionally drained. It shouldn't have to be that way. Terrible situation for all involved.
How many animals have you killed that belonged someone? Don't make excuses for someone not doing their job properly. Also a vets office has so much less protocol. This was someone not reading and just doing. Not to mention she was training someone. If your training someone you should be more attentative to what your doing so you can show them the proper way. There is no excuse for this at all sorry I used to work 20 hour days 5 days a week and the other two were 16 hour days and I didn't screw up. Never once got hurt or anything. This is just pure lack of caring.
@@darkmode867 I haven’t killed any animals you douche bag. You clearly have no experience of nursing. So bye bye
@@darkmode867 20 hour days for 5 days...ya, going to call bs on that.
@@darkmode867 you ain’t even hit puberty yet 🤣
Don’t make excuses.
I quit nursing because of this. Scares me to death. I personally can’t work a job where I could potentially make such a tragic mistake.
Me too.
Me three
I retired because of the toxic environment
Going through the same thing, but with teaching. I accidentally left a child alone in the bathroom today . I had 20+ kids to watch and teachers are also in charge of childrens lives except we don’t get paid at all. I get $16 an hour. That is poverty wages. And this is at a private school.
The child didn’t die thank GOD just shaken up
Horrible things happen everyday! Stay strong! I appreciate all nurses! Peace, love, and blessings.
This and so many many more reason is why I will NEVER EVER go back to working in the hospital again. You could not pay me enough. I know we need people to work in the hospital and I am grateful for them. It just won’t be me. Nurses are set up to fail from the moment they clock in. Nurses are set up to be the scapegoat for every occurrence. We are told his nurses that we are responsible for everything because it is our hands that are the last ones that touch the patient. Yes, we make mistakes. No we do not mean to make those mistakes. But we are the only ones ever held accountable. I will never work at the hospital again. I would rather work at Walmart than to go back to the hospital. May this poor nurse and the poor family affected find peace. I think this family is wonderful for being able to forgive her in spite of the tragedy. This is the example of true human compassion.
I know that feeling of the heart drop. I worked in an immunohematology lab in a trauma 1 hospital in 2016 and made a similar mistake when assigning a bag of blood to a premature baby in NICU.
Luckily, my mistake was caught by a coworker, but had it not been caught it could have killed the baby.
I was horrified and I’m still traumatized by it.
At the time I felt alone and like I was the only person who had ever done something like this.
I worked in NICU, it's probably the most stressful modality in nursing. You certainly are not the only one. Every transfusion was terrifying.
in FL at least, blood transfusions need more than 1 nurse to approve this to ensure this doesn't happen! maybe we do the same with pharmaceutical medications in addition to the 3 checks
That's exactly why we do need policies in place to ensure two or three people are signing off on a decision and it never all falls on just one person. It's not just to protect the nurses but to protect patient lives.
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@@jasonkushner8577Exactly
This is one reason why I never finished nursing school and went into another healthcare related field. The main reason was the toxic environment that seems inherent in nursing. I've witnessed nurses whose behavior made me believe they would eat their young they were so cold and evil to fellow nurses. Its a real thing whether nurses want to admit it. I'm glad to see this nurse got a lot of support from the nursing community.
Absolutely! I worked in long-term care for 15 years and I will say that 75% of all staff had absolutely NO business being around the elderly, the sick or the vulnerable. I pity anyone in a health crisis who doesn’t have an advocate to keep tabs on them and their care.
This is so true beyond belief
I think all nurses are overworked.
When depressed and burned out, there is no energy to have empathy.
I am sorry for your experience and I used to be a nurse for 20 years. I will,agree that we eat our young hell we even admit amongst ourselves. I have worked with some great nurses meaning teamwork. For example if your tasks are done and you see someone drowning you ask that person do you help. I have been a victim of when you have to go to another floor sometimes you might get the patients that are the worst. It's OK you did what was best for you. Leadership is from management to the more senior nurses. Nursing can be toxic at times but rest assured if a patient is in serious trouble all hands are on board. Sometimes we have birthday parties baby showers Pollyanna last day of work or retirement parties. Most places are not union like Temple University Hospital they are the highest paid and they have a kick ass union. Good luck in your profession
@@helicopterguy1 As a former Registered Nurse; that was unprofessional. You are a visitor, patient and staff we have boundaries and mutually are to be respectful. You have a good spirit and thank you for visiting your family it helps patients feel more comfortable 😊
One thing we as nurses need to remember, we are just a body/number to that hospital. If push comes to shove, they will blame the nurse and hold them liable even when there are issues with their system. I've seen it time and time again. No one is perfect, and nurses strive to be as close to perfect as possible as their actions have consequences. It's a tragic loss for Ms Murphy. And it's a tragic loss for RaDonda. Considering how nurses are treated by patients, by family, kicked at, hit, sit at, cussed out, why would anyone want to go into nursing anymore. Why? Because when we go into nursing, it's a calling, you want to take of people and help them get better. This is a very sad case. And very unfair as that hospital used her as a scape goat instead of owning up to their poor decisions and policies.
Being a nurse is not worth it in this day and age. Sad, but true.😢
It’s worth it but you have to disinvest from the Pt emotionally to cross your “t’s” and dot your “i’s”. Sadly, it’s a business.
I’m a healthcare professional and have continuously carried high-intensity case loads, so I understand the concerns around the charges brought against her. However, she selected the wrong medication, ignored multiple label warnings, and admitted that she was distracted with a side conversation and also that she was confused by the med requiring reconstitution with water. Her actions weren’t malicious, but she employed extremely poor clinical judgment skills in this case at the very least. I’m pleased that she isn’t serving time in prison but feel better that she won’t be responsible for making any more life and death decisions on behalf of patients.
Love your reply.
Exactly. This is why drs have insurance to practice. Nurses should too. Accident happen but just like a cop grabbing taser or gun. She's paid good cause responsibility. It's part of the job.
Any nurse who doesn't carry their own liability insurance is playing with 🔥 IMO!
you haven't said what type of "healthcare professional" you are - assuming your "high-intensity case loads" are equivalent to hers is very disingenuous.
She made mistakes working within the context of a very broken system - a system that resulted in mistakes every day - and if staff were less diligent, many more would have reached patients. Many of the mistakes listed weren't even mistakes - they were adaptations the workers had to make in order to meet a basic standard of care. For example, overriding the computer system was necessary daily. Her mistake of leaving the patient was also necessary in the context to continue care for other patients. Did you read the report on the medical centre, or is it irrelevant to look at the overall system (as the prosecution claimed)?
And even if you make the giant leap that these actions were grossly negligent, what does that do for safety? Staff will do their best to hide mistakes in the future. Issues of training, rostering and the malfunctioning computer system will be suppressed because they can simply blame a person. The system will simply keep producing inadequate results (which staff have to work extra hard to avoid) and firing the person in the unfortunate position of making the last mistake, to the detriment of patients and the wider community.
Next time you make a medication error, or ignore an alarm, or whatever, let me know. I'll be ready to send you to court.
I pray the family takes civil action.
That’s why I left nursing years ago. As the nurse, everything falls on YOU. It’s not fair. The system is so screwed up. You are set up to fail. Not worth it…
this is why i never made it as a nurse. Way too much of a responsibility.
@@eliadavis3881 you are right, waaay to much responsibility. I was terrified at the start of every shift 😭
We carry this responsibility every time we get behind the wheel. I am surprised at how vindictive people are when it was clearly an error that anyone could make. It’s actually pretty disturbing.
@@AnaLucia-wy2ii Thats true, but when we get behind the wheel, we are set up for success. You just have to worry about yourself and what you’re doing. We have vehicles with so much automation they can help us stay in the lane, break before we rear end someone, blind spot monitoring, etc. It could be the same way for nursing, but it’s not. There is so much responsibility on the nurse. Too much. Nurse to patient ratio is insane. Admits, discharges, codes, charting, giving meds, treatments. Talking to patients and families. ITS TOO MUCH. Filthy rich people at the top, not willing to take a pay cut and hire more workers. It shouldn’t feel like going into battle every shift. We need nurses and other medical staff. People will continue to quit. Then what will happen?
this is why I would never take any job that has any kind of liability...I would not even babysit..an accident happens, child got hurt etc you could be sued to oblivion or even arrested
Patient's 10 rights of medication administration:
Nursing school basics
1. Right Drug
2. Right Dose
3. Right Time
4 Right Route
5. Right Patient
6. Right Reason
7. Right Education
8. Right Evaluation
9. Right to Refuse
10. Right Documentation.
Checked x3
Retired RN after 40 years. I feel for this nurse and the family. It was an accident. How many people out there leave their families to take care of others...strangers everyday .
Healthcare is a very rewarding and stressful. Unfortunately it has changed so much in the past 2 decades. It is driven by attorneys and insurance companies. They set the protocol s to be followed ,the time limits to perform them, the costs and outcomes expected. Doctors and nurses are continuously lectured on how to speak to patients in order to protect themselves and any institution they work for. It is sad to watch an educated MD treat a patient by a protocol instead of using their intelligence.
Be kind to those who care for you. Be kind to those you care for.
I'm not a nurse but worked with them on the floor for 10 years. The first week working I lost 5lbs without even trying. A nurse clocked her steps once and walked 10 miles on her 12 hour shift. They are badly overworked and forced to watch extra patients all the time. I know that nurse certainly did not mean to make that fatal mistake. I'm so sorry for the family. I saw nurses and doctors make mistakes. I even saw one mistake cause myocardial infarction but thank God she survived.
@Mike Perone criminal. Absolutely criminal. And soulless. So sad.
But the black dude that killed 2 white Boys trying to rob him got 10 years but she get off scoot free
So because she was fuking tired, it’s okay that she ignore multiple warnings call someone to lose their life.?! You don’t mean to kill someone but you accidentally do and you get charged with manslaughter but you’re not a “nurse” so you should go to jail right? But not her ??
All nurses work 12 hrs if u tired call in facts
I'm a nurse, we knew what we were signing up for when we started clinicals. If you can't handle it, then QUIT! If you think being tired is an excuse for being negligent and killing someone? You're off your rocker.
As a former Army Nurse, I stand with this former nurse. Safe staffing does save lives! I, as a civilian nurse, had to work 12 hour shifts and not enough staff to cover for my breaks. In the military we deal with even more stressors. Nurses are usually the first to be found on the chopping block! It’s time to stop and face the facts so that things can change!
I bet you do. What about patients who pay huge amounts of money to receive a decent medical service and put their lives literally in the doctors' and nurses' hands. It is a sad situation but we are talking about responsibility and accountability. A person is dead because she was given the wrong drug. Who is responsible? Who is accountable? That's the fact. The overwork, the long hours, the lack of personnel are mitigating factors for a less severe sentence but they cannot be used to absolve the person responsible for this death.
The hospital should have been charged with murder
@@marivipalomino6975 I get what you're saying and respect your opinion. But ultimately, Mrs. Murphy's family didn't think it fair to have RaDonda imprisoned. She did not deny her culpability at all. That wasn't what was in question. It was clear from the beginning she is the one who made the mistake. The question behind the case was was she the only one culpable.
The trial's conclusion revealed the truth - no, she wasn't. As for RaDonda "paying", anyone can clearly see, she's a sensitive individual and will "pay" for the rest of her life. Just because she's not in a physical prison doesn't mean she is not "paying". And in the end, the Murphy family forgave the nurse. They are the only one's whose opinions truly matter.
They knew she was not malicious, unrepentant or even trying to deny responsibility. She's a human-being. Unfortunately, we as humans can make one life-changing and tragic mistake. I pray we can all find compassion and mercy when we need it. Thankfully the Murphy family was able to look beyond their pain and find forgiveness and compassion.
Uhhh mistake? Did you see all the "mistakes" she had to make ALL TOGETHER to make the BIG one? The number is 18. Count to 18. I can't fathom how she isn't in jail right now.
@@deedeebel1 So you are telling me legally here bad company policy here supersedes liability for personal negligence within that policy? I'm shocked the law works like that, just think of any common sense scenario and the worker saying "just following policy."
I'm so sorry
You have nurses that are passionate and make honest mistakes, then you have ones that are just there, I’ve worked with both. Two months ago while admitted, a nurse gave my mom the wrong medication that she was actually allergic to, then gave her a Benadryl and said oh you’ll be ok. Nursing is not for everyone.
Agreed
That's what my father says: "they're just there. They have no real passion or care for people. It's all over their demeanor consistently, that they're only there, but not in it in their hearts"
I totally believe you.
A CNA changed my mother's gown, and left her naked in the cold, waiting for minutes, without even finding a sheet for her, all because she "thought the replacement gown" was there with them. She didn't think to just put the old gown back on her. When I asked her to not handle it this way in the future, even tho she really thought the new gown was there, SHE YELLED AT ME. TWICE. for not being OK that my mother was left naked and in the cold and Uncovered!! She made it a bigger issue by feeling the need to YELL at me over her own mistake!!!
Ive seen the sh****** ppl not be fired from hospitals.
@@catsberry4858 Yes. They keep the toxic ones and I’m sure she was one of them who needed to be humbled!!!
yes Brittany Shea and those were once weeded out, they are not anymore
Can't be that passionate if you're making that mistake.
Any system that routinely requires an override for things like IV fluids is broken. She did make mistakes but the system they had in place to prevent this from happening, actually enabled it to happen.
Systemic error
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Oh, I would've sued the hospital for sure for sure.. everyone would have to be punished.. the nurse who killed her have lost her license. The hospital would be next....
@@RUclipsGuy-dm7uy I'm talking about what happened BEFORE that. They provided a system which requires an override very often. After a while, an override becomes routine, when it really should be a rare exception. And I'm not saying she was not at fault, but the hospital had a broken system which was just waiting for someone to come along and make a careless mistake. Good systems PREVENT you from making the mistake.
It’s very relieving and heartbreaking to see that the family forgave her and imposed on prison time not being an option. The compassion and understanding of one another goes beyond anything imaginable.
My wife is an RN. The 6-20 hour shifts she's having to pull, often time without CNAs or med tech's, with nurses often calling off is nearly impossible to operate without this possibility. It's almost impossible for nurses not to make a mistake. Though it hasn't, this possibility is still their
Hospitals have been turned over to businesses with a profit margin just like the Dept of children and families and all of their arms of social programs.
she seems like a genuinely good person. Even the family of the victim forgives for for her mistake (mistake, not crime!). RaDonda, I only wish you the best, I hope you will get through this. To all the nurses out there, I hope the system changes 🧡. I used to be in hospital a lot as a kid and it was the nurses that got me through 💜
This is called white privilege. If that nurse was black, her fate would be much different and that's a fact.
@Maria Isabel It is and it's punishable for everyone, but my point is that if the nurse was black, the court would have given her a rougher sentence.
This nurse would have killed you. She was negligent. You don’t know the facts. It got political. That’s why she got off. I lived there.
@@waldorocha604 surely you are kidding! Do you only watch CNN? Anyway…In this time she would never have been prosecuted …for political reasons
@@zakbauman9319 who the hell turns the tv on these days to watch "news"? Clearly you because you brought it up.
I know how I've felt after making minor med errors, I can't imagine how she felt when she realized what she had done. We're all human, she is not a murderer or a bad person. I'm glad she didn't get any jail time, I hope she finds peace.
She ignored TEN safety protocols dipshit. She didn't even READ the name of the drug she used.
Are you serious? Think if you were that dead womans famlily! It wasn't premediated, but it was murder!!
@@studyhardplayhard5086 they forgave her and didn't even want jail time for her. I'm sure I would be devastated but I hope I would be able to be as forgiving as they are, and realize it was a an accident with no ill intent.
@@carrielee6652 I wouldnt be forgiving so easily. Not without true justice. she killed someone. crazy that a killer walks free
@@studyhardplayhard5086 there was justice. She'll never be a nurse again. She's not a threat to anyone. She paid a ton of fines, she's on probation and she has to live with this for the rest of her life. She's been punished enough. I'm assuming you're not a nurse or in the medical field so I don't expect you to understand, but what if your spouse or mother or daughter was a nurse? Would you want them being thrown in jail and labeled a murderer because they made an human error when you know they are a good person who loves people and when never intentionally hurt anyone?
This is why I went to home health. I see about 3-4 patients a day and give great one on one care. I refused to be overworked by these hospitals owned by corporations. They don’t care about the staff or the patients! My ex-coworker told me that now in medsurg at her hospital she’s taking 6 patients!! SIX! Insane!
God bless and keep all nurses who are doing their best to take care of their patients💖✨💫
I am so relieved to hear that she didn’t have to serve any actual prison time. This case disturbs me on a deep level. I hope she is doing okay right now
a lot of therapy and medication. When she spoke about the revelation of killing someone, you can see the devastation and complete hole she is in.
A nurse administered a over dose of medication that killed a person 🤔 that's just devastating. Im sure this women who she killed wanted to live . And the pain that's left behind this mistake never goes away. It's life altering . This is pain to another level. It's takes you more then a step behind in life. this memory of what happened to this poor victim who died will haunt the victims forever. I'm sure the victim was a mother a grandmother a wife a sister a cousin so all were hurt over this and still hurting. It's one thing to die of naturel causes but to die from a over dose from a mistake a nurse made is devastating .. I know cuz it happened to me and my family we lost our mother due to a over dose. And you can't even begin to imagine the severe pain it left us all in..it never ends..
@@bettyvillegas9367 the family of the victim has forgiven her and didn't want her to be punished. I'm sorry you're still hurting, but I think they made their feelings pretty clear. This was a mistake and being the wonderful people they are, they weren't looking for vengeance.
@@awright119021 they didn't ask for forgiveness on my story although I do forgive the doctor and nurse but my fault blame me and hasn't talk to me in years this has separated a huge family that were very close and now because of their mistake I'm a outcast from my family and this 8s killing me slowly..I was talking about 5he damage it leaves behind . Not the forgiveness it's the pain . That never ends ..
Let me correct my comment their is forgiveness I'm just suffering from the unforgiveness my family has towards me they blame me my mother was in my care and 8 had no idea they were hurting her at that facility. But it's a slow painful death of sadness and regret regret on my part that I wasn't there when they hurt my mother. On top of all that my family hates me we haven't talked in 16 yrs
In college, my school made sure every graduating RN read the state’s Nurse Practice Act. I left the bedside after 1 year due to unsafe work practices and knowing there was no way I could provide SAFE patient care with the patient caseload and amount of responsibilities.
The US should pass a federal law to limit patient caseloads in the hospitals!
I believe certain states have done that, I think one that I read about was CA but the hospital lobbyists have so much more $ and power
This is devastating. I’m so sorry for both parties that this happened
I am a nurse and if you make a mistake, you need to pay for your error. In the end you are the last line. This is why you need to scan before giving the drug. If you cant do the job correctly you leave people in an unsafe situation while they are vunerable. Dr´s actions can be criminialized so the same thing must be in place for the entire industry to hold us to the upmost standards of care. The focus should remain on providing for the patient’s medical needs and complying with applicable standards of care!
In nursing school they teach you that medication errors happen sometimes and they can be fatal. They teach you to hold yourself accountable and you have to report it. She did everything she was supposed to do.
Or or you can just read the labels and what the doctor says to give. I mean tbh I read and make sure any medication I take is what I am intending to take I also administer my grandparents meds for them and my wife's and as long as you have a list of what and when and can read and you care you won't make that mistake. But at the end of the day if someone was driving a forklift at work and let's say mistakes the gas pedal for the brake what do you think is gonna happen when he hits and kills someone. He's going to jail for manslaughter. Negligence just shows uncaring behavior and honestly I'm fed up with the way nurses have been treating patients. Treat everyone like such trash it's horrible
@@darkmode867 you clearly do not work in healthcare. if you have worked a day in the hospital, you would understand the amount of stress, nurses are put through. I'm not condoning what RaDonda did was right but mistakes do happen and sometimes these mistakes are unfortunately irreversible and fatal. Mediciation errors happen, we are human and nurses are no different.
Come be a nurse
@@darkmode867 lmao.
Tell me you don’t work in healthcare without telling me don’t.
Your comments are so foolish and just stupid
@@kirak584 it doesn't matter where you work any error can be fatal at any job. Also there are plenty of jobs that are way more stressful that a nurses job. Maybe we shouldn't let just anyone become a nurse and screen better cause obviously you guys can't handle alittle stress or read a freaking chart. You legit have the easier version of this job with today's advantages in medicine and technology and your saying you still manage to mess up and cost people their lives? Yet we see nurses standing at the nurses station and other places making tik toks but your job is so stressful and you are so busy lol apparently not busy enough to put down a phone.
I used to work as a nurse’s aide. I left after routinely being assigned over 20 patients. One day I was assigned 43 patients. Imagine 43 patients who need help being fed, 43 patients who need adult brief changes, patients who need bathed, help getting dressed, help moving between their bed and wheelchair. I truly cared for my patients but I couldn’t stay. The workload was impossible (and well above the legal limit of 15 patients per nurse’s aide) The nursing home never got in trouble for understaffing. Any problems got blamed on the nurses or nurse’s aides and to add insult to injury, I was getting paid less than the McDonald’s down the street was offering.
I feel you as a former CNA. The lack of staffing is so horrible, not fair to the patients or the nurse aides.
I too worked at a nursing home while in college. It's the only job I've ever walked out on - for the exact same reasons you've listed. The day before I quit I reported seeing another aid slap a patient multiple times because the patient wasn't cooperating with being dressed. The next day that aid was still working there. It infuriated me. The Director of Nursing had the audacity to ask me, "Don't you care about the patients?" as I walked out when I quit. I told her I did, then asked her if she did. I reported the facility to the state and within 6 months they were shut down. The experience deeply affected the way my parents were taken care of as seniors, my brother or I visited daily and kept a close eye on everything that happened to our parents. I'm sure the staff was put out with us, but the one time we caused a problem for them our mother was going into congestive heart failure after open heart surgery as the staff tried to tell us she was just "tired". I have great sympathy for seniors who have no one looking out for them. I am sure many deaths happen in nursing homes due to plain old negligence.
She has such a pure, honest sense of humility. She has more respect for the victim than most could ever muster. I’m glad people like her are in the nursing field, not scared.
She’s not telling the whole truth. She ignored several warnings and wasn’t even going to report it until the primary nurse discovered what happened.
Bingo! That's negligence
what a story, so hard on both sides, and the final act of forgiveness, that's just amazing.
Yes, she seems genuinely sorry & distraught over her very human mistake. The family being warm & forgiving of her fatal error is honorable. These are examples of our good hearted people on earth.
@@mysweetnessc6784 Agree
Such a painful event. My heart goes out dear nurse and to the family. She's so remorseful more than words can say.
I can’t imagine what she and the patients family are going through on a daily. As a nurse, I have made mistakes. I am just as guilty. Lord please forgive me if I put anyone in harms way. Praying for peace for all of you, for all nurses working so hard too. ❤🙏🏻
Am a nursing student and this makes me think so much about my decision.
Don't do it
Prayers everyday.
Me too
Pray about it. There are still some rewards in nursing but learn from this story and allow it to motivate you to be a great nurse
My mom was a nurse, she passed away in 2020 in the frontline. She used to tell me about the types of conditions they worked under. This is so unfair, especially if there wasn't a history of gross negligence.
what frontline ??
right. she deserves our support in her time of need♥️
@@Ruma_Kaalis_Camoran covid
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@@Ruma_Kaalis_Camoran another stupid...you do know about covid in 2020 right?
Got a lawsuit put on me once, for a man who died in his sleep . It was time to quit the job. The long hours and demands were insulting. I had nightmares everyday due to the lack of staff. I had 21 patients to myself with no help except 1 can.
She was better off out of that horrible job. Hope she can re build her life. Looks like she has world wide support ❤
As a chronically ill person who spends half of my life in the hospital; I can unbiasedly attest to nurse’s being over extended, constantly having to make due with too many patients per nurse, shortage of supportive staff such as MA’s. Having to fix errors the previous shifts staff made etc. This is all while having to document every breath a patient takes AND being there to hold the patients hand and calm their fears. There was nothing malicious or intentional about this incident. Should it be looked into and have some new training procedures installed, sure. A woman to go to PRISON, loose everything she worked for and have a label that will follow her forever is not equal to the situation. I feel compassion for the family but, I also recognize that mistakes happen. I’ve had many medical mistakes happen to myself. I would never expect the professional at fault to be criminally charged. This is a very slippery slope and setting a precedent for healthcare workers to now work in fear or not work at all. The hospital and union should have protected her rather than throwing her under the bus.
Bad bait
Dude you can say that about any profession that involves customer care or services. Go try and live in any other country and see how good the medical care is.. most nurses love working longer hours because they are making 70 bucks a hour
@@brianredban9393 not really because in the U.S there is a nursing shortage causing the remaining nurses to take more workload.
@@brianredban9393 where is this “$75.00 an hr?
@@mambeux thats not true
This is difficult to judge. I’m a healthcare professional, and I know how easy it is to make a mistake that can harm the patient. I’m as careful as I can be. But at the same time, if one of my loved ones died because a nurse neglected to do something so basic as reading a label with the name of the medication on the medication vial, I would want justice to be served. Even when I take medications, I make sure I read the label on the bottle. And then she didn’t scan the patient’s wrist band and vial. It was just a bunch of mistakes. It wasn’t just the override.
Exactly. This nurse is guilty as hell of criminal negligence in my opinion
Exactly. I agree. Nursing is hard and many errors can be made but there are the rights of medication administration that you follow. When dispensing medication, drawing up and administering.
I appreciate you pointing this all out. I'm just a home health aide worker and know these basics. I agree with everything you said because as busy as she may have been or whichever excuse others are making, when giving that medication she should have been reading that label prior to administering it. That is just basic protocol with medications.
Thats right! Every safety barriers were broken. The hospital should be held accountable as well. You shouldn't be able to override a paralytic. Let's not also forget that the Vanderbilt hospital completely threw the nurse under the bus instead of providing some sort of support .
Did you take your meds today?
So sad !!!
This hit me hard. I am a rph and during prime covid time immunizing 50-100 patients during a 8 hour period between doing normal duties everyone was waiting for covid shots in lobby and one person was waiting for flu I accidentally gave her the covid shot and my heart sank after she told me you gave me the flu shot just now right?!? I’m like omg no I didn’t! She was too chatty with me before giving the shot that I forgot to confirm what shot she wanted. She reported me to the idfpr and everything I just felt horrible thought I would lose my license over a honest mistake and worst part is she kept saying this place is crazy busy you can’t handle it you need to stop working and leave I was so humiliated in front of everyone that day I felt so terrible I know how this nurse feels!
I'm so sorry for both sides. At least she was honest about her error. God bless all of our nurses 🙏
This nurse "accidentally" gave that fatal dose. She needs absolute murder charges. I do drugs and know way more about them than any doctor I have ever met, this shouldn't be an excuse for doctors or nurses. She needs life in prison.
Honest, it’s in their code of ethic ! How can you lie ... EACH VILE IS ACCOUNTED FOR ....one would be missing and the one she was supposed to use would still be in stock !! Hard to lie about that !! The autopsy ..( which has to be performed because she was just getting a sedative and cat scan, not deadly procedures) would of definitely shown the wrong drug in her system! At least she told the truth ... blah blah blah
Admitting error is the most important thing after it occurs. Although it couldn't have been helped in this case, many med errors are correctable if addressed right away. This conviction is going to make nurses less likely to report errors.
@@amyconway9035 So next time you're in the hospital and there's an error rest assured it won't be reported...good luck
@@ytr3488 100% I never knew killing someone accidentally gets you 3 years of supervised probation.........so people next time you get into trouble in some way like vaught....just tell the judge you want the Vaught treatment lol
my grandfather died from an error made by a resident student at Vanderbilt. my heart hurts for the nurse but my heart BREAKS for the family who lost a loved one.
I definitely feel for both of them. You can tell that nurse isn't just feeling sorry for herself. She genuinely cares about that patient and her family. I also admire the family for speaking up for her. It is easy for them to forgive her, because they clearly have empathy and realize the mistakes they have all made, that could have led to something like this, but luckily did not.
really very true, I almost died from a mistake by a doctor and when I brought it up, was told to think about how the doctor felt
@@montanagal6958 Yeah, that's not good timing. I don't know who would just say that right off the bat, but it was definitely your time to get compassion.
My mil died from heart problems that just 2 months earlier, a dr in the er overlooked when she went in for chest pains. She was made to feel like it was all in her head and was sent home. It happens all the time.
@@emott922 It does happen often enough, probably too often. Chest pains can be so many things, but you'd think they'd take it more seriously these days. Women's heart disease rates are pretty much on par w/ men's these days, unfortunately.
I have been going into local hospitals for over 13 years. I get infusions every three weeks 4 days in a row. The mistakes I have seen are many. When I brought some of them to managements attention at one hospital I was told they were stopping my treatments and I would have to go somewhere else. They would not require nurse staff to follow proper procedures. The nursing staff told me that was good enough and that I will reap what I sow. I contacted the state agency that regulate them and they would not get involved. This was in North Carolina. I still get infusions but Now I have to accept the mistakes because I do not want to get kicked out from this hospital. I have lost count as to how many times my port has been missed during access. It does not surprise me that a death was a result of a mistake in this setting. Its most likely just one of many that was not covered up. I do think most nurses try to do the best they can do. But I have run into some that lack the skills and training to do a proper job. To over ride a safety procedure to get access to meds should be fixed right away. When EPIC was rolled out I saw this happen. I saw this before and after the roll out as well. I had to stop a nurse from infusing the wrong med into me once. He went back and got the right med. after I told him his mistake. I could go on but what would be the point.
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Thanks for sharing. It’s important we warn eachother of potential dangers of medical negligence
To the family of Ms. Murphy, as a nurse, I am deeply sorry for your loss. Your forgiveness of Radonda brought me to tears but reminds me of what we are supposed to do. There was only One Perfect Person & He Forgave Us.
I’m a nurse and when I first heard of this I was absolutely shocked. How could this happen? Then I think of all of the little inconsequential errors I’ve made. The Murphy family were so so lovely and I applaud them for their ability to see past the infallibility of humans.
People who have responsibilities should not be held responsible for their own actions. You run over a child with your car, you should not be held responsible for accidentally killing the child!
@@iowastate358 I hope you are been sarcastic. If you are, I agree with you.
@@ymReal yea people who accidentally kill people have always been held accountable imagine people who work in hospitals not having any responsibility for their actions will produce!?
Humans are Fallible, not Infallible. Only God is Infallible.
I wish people would get info on this case. She had chance after chance to correct her error. She also (as I figured) she was not that rushed.
What beautiful forgiveness of the family to not wish jail time, very sad story. Blessings to all.
that was huge. A lot of people could not do such a thing. Hopefully the family is well compensated for their grief and loss.
God Bless this woman
I experienced over a decade of medical neglect/abuse by doctors and nurses after my cancer surgery but this creates a bad precedent. Good, caring medical professionals make mistakes too. I’m so very sad for both sides here
Did you watch the trial?
it was criminally negligent she was warned by the system nearly ten times
@@dejuhvu1793 yes and the biggest problem I had was all the over riding.
Nop first she did not supposed to used that machine without other nurse. That override is always used , also the hospital was the responsible the head nurse too. Not her the mistake was reported and she got hetlr licensed revoke. This enough.
That is terrible!! I am so sorry
She was only an RN for 2 years! She was practically still a grad and already with a student. My goodness. What do they expect. They just discard her and wait for the next batch of eager, well meaning although ill informed new graduate nurses. The shelf life of a nurse is becoming shorter and shorter.
Yup, and you don't even need a HS diploma to be a politician who only claim to serve the people. When was the last time a politician was prosecuted? This whole world is upside down.
We have almost new grads as charge nurses on my floor, very scary!
@@stickerscat this is so scary. I would be terrified as a patient as well. Your life is literally in the hands of someone that is still learning.
I also know too many d u m b nurses who partied in college and still drink today and I would never trust them, even as my friends, with A n e e d le. I haven’t met a nurse who didn’t d r I n k more than the average.
Let me guess w I n e ? Yea, and you get paid enough but go vent to your g I r l s. That’s why I deep dive study my doctors and nurses. Yes I do. Last thing I need to know is she in vacation mood.
Nurses are promoted too quickly with little experience. The job is too dangerous to be promoting people just like that.
It just may be a blessing in disguise. 💝
All you have to do is triple check your vials and ask someone if you haven’t given the drug before. In addition, there’s an entire extra step, of reconstitution, of powdered vecuronium, to even make it a liquid for IV administration. Versed, you just draw it up because it’s already a liquid. RIP to this patient who was paralyzed with vec while conscious.
I worked in the ICU before. While the work was greatly rewarding, the stress was immense. Not only the work but the pressure from colleagues was huge. Bullying was common. Perfection was required. And we did 12-hour shifts, sometimes without a proper break. I once had a patient who had a heart rate of 150+ with an arrhythmia. While my colleagues were trying to help me, I saw a nurse who was about to inject Potassium chloride into my patient's CVL. I stopped him. The tube that contained KCL was made by the manufacturer that also provided NaCl in a tube that looked exactly the same. The description was written on only one side of the square shape tube. I do not doubt that the nurse intended to help my patient. He was trying to see if the CVL was patent. We nurses look after each other. But when everyone's busy, it is hard.
For the healthcare workers who expected jail time for Radonda, some day and some way, you might end up in the same position as her and you will beg for the same mercy that was shown to her. Not all mistakes are committed with malicious intent.
👏 👏 👏. Yes. This ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️
But she did this multiple times
Exactly 👏👏
She should still ask to serve time...you pay for your mistakes!
But she kept making the same mistake. Her ass deserved jail time
I agree with her going to prison. The nurses killed my dad. I wish they would also be held accountable
Most nurses don't seem to truly care much about their patients. They're just cogs in the wheels of greedy money loving hospitals
This is why you always check the MAR 3 times. No excuse for why you give anyone the wrong meds. Just because you're in a hurry means nothing. You should always tell the paitent what they are recieving and check before you give it to them that they are the right paitent and right medications. I've seen drug errors before and they always turn out horrible.
It is just amazing how the victim’s relative forgives her so graciously that even advocates for no prison time for Radonda’s mistake. How difficult to be able to forgive like that, and how difficult to live with the responsibility of one death on you. It is something so hard I believe nothing will make it go away ever.
possibly because the victim was the mother in law of the lady who was forgiving her.
@@bedtimestoriesforkids9755 hahaha 🤣 you’re mean.
Glad to see y’all support murderers .
Family was paid a large amount of money.
@Thou Swell Have you seen already the movie of the male nurse that killed many people in several hospitals? I think it’s “The good nurse”. So, Our thinking of having remorse for as long as we live, is not always going to be the case. I’m afraid that after that nurse became a serial killer, nurses in general are going to be punished much harder for fatal mistakes. It is a pity really, since nurses are the most dedicated professionals of all. Thanks for your comment.
I've been a nurse for 13 years and made my first ever med error recently. It was terrifying and I immediately told my charge. I was scanning meds too fast so one was missed. No harm came to the patient, I cannot imagine if it had how horrible I would feel. I'm so glad she didn't get jail time and I hope she finds peace.
I think your comment brings light to this whole situation. I was trying to think of what to say but I think you covered it. Thanks
You cant even write a proper sentence , how can i trust you ?
God bless you and thank you for everything that you do!
You caught your mistake though. She was so distracted she didn't even bother to read the medication and it's warning label.. that is crazy scary.
@@youmadhuh6375 She didn't catch her mistake. She said she gave the wrong med, but the patient was not harmed
This happens more than you know. We are all human and she never ever meant to hurt anyone.