Cliffe Knechtle Vs Muslim: Trust Jesus or Muhammad?

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  • Watch as Cliffe Knechtle debates a Muslim student on whether to trust Jesus or Muhammad. A thought-provoking discussion on the character of Jesus and his deity.
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  • @rationalchristianfaith
    @rationalchristianfaith  4 месяца назад +765

    For all the Muslims in this comment section who are saying, "Cliffe got smoked." You clearly do not listen or never took a debate class. Do you really think if someone ends a debate, that means they could not respond? There are hundreds of reasons why anyone would cut a discussion and leave. Cliffe cut the debate because he refuses to enter into a debate with any Muslim that pushes forward the premise, " You can prove that a book is the word of God." To prove something means to show without doubt to be true, like 1 + 1 = 2 or that water is H2O. There are things you can show without reasonable doubt to be true. However, you cannot do the SAME for the Bible or the Quran! You can build a reasonable argument showing their reliability and possibilities of being the word of God, but you can't PROVE it. It's that simple. Those two Muslims argued using the circular reasoning fallacy: "The Quran is the Word of God because the Quran says so." Cliffe pointed out how weak that argument is because you can't prove it's the word of God. When the two students continued pushing the premise, "You can prove the Quran is the word of God," Cliffe ended the debate. That's like me saying John is the most honest person you will ever meet. why? Because John said so. How do I know John is not lying? Because John is the most honest person ever. You see the circular reasoning? We will never get anywhere in a debate with such circular reasoning! Also, Cliffe explained why he is cutting off the discussion. He said they are not listening and are not getting anywhere ( again, they won't reject their premise, " You can prove that the Quran is the word of God). Thus, to claim otherwise would mean you are calling Cliffe a liar, which is an unreasonable answer. Why? Because he has debated countless Muslims and already answered similar objections. So, to say he was "running away" is false. So, let's be mature here and keep the comment section respectful and intellectually honest.

    • @hulsen1603
      @hulsen1603 4 месяца назад +278

      With the gaslighting from the beginning of your comment I'm just gonna go ahead and say you don't know what you are talking about

    • @trajictempr8574
      @trajictempr8574 4 месяца назад +91

      ​@hulsen1603 fr they can't prove the bible is the word of God but that it's "divinely inspired" however the Quran is the literal word of God conveyed through the prophet (saw)

    • @urussel
      @urussel 4 месяца назад +62

      “But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.“
      ‭‭Titus‬ ‭3‬:‭9‬-‭11‬

    • @brutal_gamingtm1178
      @brutal_gamingtm1178 4 месяца назад +55

      Tbh, he doesn’t even know how to defend his faith. He clearly lost the debate.

    • @zazaaaaa04
      @zazaaaaa04 4 месяца назад +58

      i ain't reading allat lil bro 😭🙏

  • @youssefz6137
    @youssefz6137 4 месяца назад +1803

    Bro accidentally spoke with educated people💀

    • @DonPablo96
      @DonPablo96 4 месяца назад +37

      Bro thought he was the one

    • @Left_Shoulder
      @Left_Shoulder 4 месяца назад +303

      Kid asks question
      >cliffe answers
      >Kid doesnt understand
      >asks same question
      >Cliffe answers
      >kid asks 2 more times
      >Cliffe gets tired, tells him theres no point debating No humble

    • @DonPablo96
      @DonPablo96 4 месяца назад +34

      @@Left_Shoulder what u mean to say is ur professor cliffe got his A** handed to him the correct and professional way

    • @toovilol3324
      @toovilol3324 4 месяца назад +112

      @@DonPablo96They were asking the same things it was not going anywhere! Stop with your biasedness

    • @thepublicpotato3887
      @thepublicpotato3887 4 месяца назад +30

      ​@@toovilol3324They were getting somewhere thats why cliffe had to stop them mashallah they are lions of Islam

  • @ChildofWaves
    @ChildofWaves 3 месяца назад +73

    Historic fact: Jesus lived during the roman empire in a place where several cultures met hence several tongues were spoken, not just one...

    • @MuhammedAlipbut
      @MuhammedAlipbut Месяц назад +8

      Your in denial lil bro😂😂😂😂 keep coping with that 20 likes which are all people in denial.😭there is no god but Allah alone lord of all worlds to him alone belongs the kingdom of the heavens and earth and whatever is in between. Hes limitless in all good words (power, knowledge, wisdom, etc) hes formless and beyond our comprehension so he sends prophets and miracles to earth. Hes all powerful all knowing. He is niether begotten nor does he give birth far is Allah above his creation. Jesus was nothing more then a messenger of Allah almighty doing miracles by the will of Allah

    • @i382006
      @i382006 28 дней назад +4

      @@MuhammedAlipbut”Jesus was nothing more than a messenger” Yet supposedly is up in heaven with Allah, while Muhammad was also a messenger and is where exactly?

    • @jonnyboy5628
      @jonnyboy5628 27 дней назад +2

      Muhammad’s wife was 6 years old and he took her virginity at 9 years of age
      Even the Quran says that Jesus was born out of a Virgin birth and had no Father…
      And that my brothers is truly Devine 🙌
      This is what the Quran says in Ayah thirty-four of Sura an-Nisa :::
      But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. 🤦‍♂️

    • @jonnyboy5628
      @jonnyboy5628 27 дней назад

      @@i382006they don’t know where Muhammad is … The Quran says that not even Muhammad knows if he will go to heaven or hell …. 🤦‍♂️ according to Quran their salvation is not guaranteed ..and when they die God will separate their good deeds from the bad and if they have more good deeds than bad deeds then they will be saved 🤦‍♂️
      The Holy Bible says *Ephesians 2:8-9*
      8 God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. 9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.
      But I have good news for everyone… In Jesus your salvation is guaranteed but you must believe in Him and accept Him as your Lord and Savior 🙌
      At the end every knee shall bow 🙇🏻 and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord 👑❤️

    • @jonnyboy5628
      @jonnyboy5628 27 дней назад +1

      Ephesians 2:8-9
      8 God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. 9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.

  • @ambiven10
    @ambiven10 3 месяца назад +222

    The muslim guy knew the scriptures. Thats impressive.

    • @fosterhb3774
      @fosterhb3774 3 месяца назад +7

      A looot of muslims memorise the Quran and they are given a chain of names (X memorized from Y who memorized from Z etc etc) up to prophet PBUH

    • @omgitsmoncelle
      @omgitsmoncelle 3 месяца назад +8

      True yes, but doesn’t understand it. He has a religious mindset.

    • @Steakterysteak
      @Steakterysteak Месяц назад

      Your religious was created by a man who married a 6 year old

    • @Judy-zc2hw
      @Judy-zc2hw Месяц назад

      Listed below are
      Similarities between what is in the Bible and what is written about in
      The Life of Muhammad by Mohammad Hussein Heikal
      (LOM MHH)
      Note: Muhummad was born 562 AD in Mecca where 5 faiths were practiced: Zoroism, Paganism, Judaism Christianity, and one other
      Abram ask God do not destroy the city of Sodom & Gomorrah if he could find 50 righteous men- which dropped to " 40, 30, 20, 10". Genesis 18: 16
      Muhummad Ascended to Heaven went to seek Samuel about asking God if he would minimize the Prayers from "50 times a day to 40, 30, 20, 10, to 5 times. (LOM MHH)
      Saul sought a Witch to contact
      2 Samuel 1:28
      God tell Abram to sacrifice
      Isaac Gen 22.
      Allah tells Abram to
      Sacrifice Ishmael
      (LOM MHH)
      God said Take off your sandals you're standing on Holy Ground Exodus 3:5
      Allah to Muhammad take of your Shoes your standing on Holy Ground
      (LOM MHH)
      Gideon wins a war against thousands with 300 Men
      Judges 7 :7
      Muhammad won a battle against thousand with 311 men. (LOM MHH)
      Joshua's men went around Jericho seven Times before Walls fell
      Joshua 6:4-5
      Muslims go around Haja or Kabal (?) counter clockwise 7 times
      When Zachariah named his son John relative said no one in our family has been given that name before
      Luke 1:61
      When Muhammad was born (562 AD)
      Family said no one in our family has been given that name
      During Jesus's birth and Angel appeared and said to Joseph and Mary do not be afraid for Behold I bring you “Good Tidings of Great Joy which will be to all people.
      Luke 2:10
      When Muhammad was born angels appeared and said we bring you good tidings of Great Joy
      (LOM MHH)
      As for my people, their oppressors have stripped them, and "Women Rule over them". O my people, they that call thee blessed, the same deceive thee, and destroy the way of thy steps. Isaiah 13:3
      Women will Rule (LOM MHH)
      Mark of Beast is 666
      Revelation 13
      (LOM MHH)
      Mark of Beast is 999
      (LOM MHH)
      Below is scripture from 2 Timothy 3 KJV written hundreds of years ago, but translated into English between late 1500 and early 1600:
      ... "in the last days perilous times shall come.
      2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
      Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
      4 Traitors, heady, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
      5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
      6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with "divers lusts'
      7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
      2 Timothy 3 1-7

    • @Judy-zc2hw
      @Judy-zc2hw Месяц назад

      ​@@omgitsmoncelleListed below are
      Similarities between what is in the Bible and what is written about in
      The Life of Muhammad by Mohammad Hussein Heikal
      (LOM MHH)
      Note: Muhummad was born 562 AD in Mecca where 5 faiths were practiced: Zoroism, Paganism, Judaism Christianity, and one other
      Abram asked God do not destroy the city of Sodom & Gomorrah if he could find 50 righteous men- which dropped to " 40, 30, 20, 10". Genesis 18: 16
      Muhummad Ascended to Heaven went to seek Samuel about asking God if he would minimize the Prayers from "50 times a day to 40, 30, 20, 10, to 5 times. (LOM MHH)
      Saul sought a Witch to contact
      2 Samuel 1:28
      God tell Abram to sacrifice
      Isaac Gen 22.
      Allah tells Abram to
      Sacrifice Ishmael
      (LOM MHH)
      God said Take off your sandals you're standing on Holy Ground Exodus 3:5
      Allah to Muhammad take of your Shoes your standing on Holy Ground
      (LOM MHH)
      Gideon wins a war against thousands with 300 Men
      Judges 7 :7
      Muhammad won a battle against thousand with 311 men. (LOM MHH)
      Joshua's men went around Jericho seven Times before Walls fell
      Joshua 6:4-5
      Muslims go around Haja or Kabal (?) counter clockwise 7 times
      When Zachariah named his son John relative said no one in our family has been given that name before
      Luke 1:61
      When Muhammad was born (562 AD)
      Family said no one in our family has been given that name
      During Jesus's birth and Angel appeared and said to Joseph and Mary do not be afraid for Behold I bring you “Good Tidings of Great Joy which will be to all people.
      Luke 2:10
      When Muhammad was born angels appeared and said we bring you good tidings of Great Joy
      (LOM MHH)
      As for my people, their oppressors have stripped them, and "Women Rule over them". O my people, they that call thee blessed, the same deceive thee, and destroy the way of thy steps. Isaiah 13:3
      Women will Rule (LOM MHH)
      Mark of Beast is 666
      Revelation 13
      (LOM MHH)
      Mark of Beast is 999
      (LOM MHH)
      Below is scripture from 2 Timothy 3 KJV written hundreds of years ago, but translated into English between late 1500 and early 1600:
      ... "in the last days perilous times shall come.
      2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
      Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
      4 Traitors, heady, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
      5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
      6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with "divers lusts'
      7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
      2 Timothy 3 1-7

  • @Softtv23
    @Softtv23 2 месяца назад +65

    Still thanking Allah that I’m a Muslim Alhamdulillah

    • @ofinnidaniel1363
      @ofinnidaniel1363 2 месяца назад +2

      You profess Jesus as the Messiah just like we believers,
      but then I ask you, what does the Messiah come to do?
      Isn't it to come and save? But how can the Messiah save if he is just a “Man"? Can Man save Man Isn't it only God that can save?
      Therefore if the work of the Messiah is to come and save then he had to be God and proceed from God (making him an offspring from God or as we say “He's Son"),
      This ☝️ has to be the case or else it would be a fallacy and a mockery to the divine law that states that “only God can save man cause he created him".
      The spirit of God is also God becau that's how we know and identify that God is in a place, by his spirit.
      However even though the holy spirit (kadosh or haruch) proceeds from God and we know and can't deny the spirit is God, yet the spirit can't be the Son because he is not in human form.
      How can u claim that God is in a place or in a person when we can't see God physically? It is only by his spirit that we identify he is there.
      Therefore if God can exist everywhere at the same time by his spirit. Why couldn't he appear in human form to save man. Cause man had fallen in the garden and deviated how can a fallen Man save another fallen Man? Impossible except God helps them both.
      Therefore God's help was through the Messiah whose function as recorded in Matthew 1:21 was to “save his people from their SINS".
      and what was the reason why Man fell in the first place?
      It was Sin.
      salam almasih ealayk
      سلام المسيح عليك

    • @bishoyshinigami9422
      @bishoyshinigami9422 2 месяца назад

      ​@ofالسلام لكم و ليس السلام عليكمinnidaniel1363

    • @Killerx1338
      @Killerx1338 2 месяца назад +3

      @@ofinnidaniel1363 bro that was way to much to read. summarize it.

    • @noura-ew4wy
      @noura-ew4wy 2 месяца назад

      We don't believe at all that he came to save. He is a messenger like other messengers ​@@ofinnidaniel1363

    • @margiecarol2944
      @margiecarol2944 2 месяца назад

      ALLAH "DOES NOT EXIST".
      MOHAMMED WAS DECEIVED. AND MOHAMMED NEVER EVER MET JESUS. AND THE BIBLE WAS NOT GIVEN TO JESUS. THE NEW TESTAMENT WAS THE GOSPELS. GOOD NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST WHO DIED AND ROSE AGAIN FOR OUR SIN. THEN THERE WERE THE ACTS OF THE APOSTLES AND LETTERS WRITTEN TO THE EARLY CHURCH, AND PROPHECY OF JOHN IN REVELATION.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊

  • @Lexler34
    @Lexler34 5 месяцев назад +1156

    “Your not listening to me”😂😂

    • @natsudragneel2019
      @natsudragneel2019 5 месяцев назад +88

      are they? they are not listening to cliffe thats the fact cliff said that hundred thousands of people believe quran and hundred thousands of people believe bible and the boy said that "the bible given to jesus is word of god" but its not matter even if its changed beacuse of the people are believing that bible is the word of god.according to boy the thing that everyone belive is fact in the history so cliffe give up to make a proper conversation because they were just talking they ideas and not listening cliffe.(dont get me wrong im not christian im a muslim but cliffe is right in this situation)

    • @pervysage3052
      @pervysage3052 5 месяцев назад +44

      ⁠@@natsudragneel2019brother he was making a good point by proving that the bible is not the word of god. If the bible is the word of god it would not have contradictions and it would be perfect but it was corrupted. And Luke Matthew John and so on they couldn’t even read or write they were fishermen so it could not be them who wrote those stuff

    • @iloveamv2465
      @iloveamv2465 5 месяцев назад +23

      Cliffe answers them, they should adress the answer of cliffe but instead they ask another question

    • @akaeys3119
      @akaeys3119 5 месяцев назад +33

      @@pervysage3052 Luke was a physician and a companion of the Apostle Paul. His education and profession suggest that he was literate and capable of writing.
      Matthew is traditionally identified as a tax collector before he became one of Jesus’ disciples. Tax collectors of that period were required to be literate to perform their duties, indicating that Matthew could likely read and write.
      John, identified as one of the original twelve apostles, is traditionally believed to have written the Gospel of John. While there is less direct evidence of his literacy, the complexity and style of the Gospel suggest that he, or someone close to him, had the ability to write. How about Muhammad? Muhammad was an unlettered man who could not read or write. By the way, these texts are what I found on internet. ✝✝☦☦

    • @Harukii-re4lv
      @Harukii-re4lv 5 месяцев назад +14

      They didn't even listen to cliffe, he didn't have a choice answering the same question so he left them to waste no time and proceed to next question

  • @fkjett2329
    @fkjett2329 5 месяцев назад +378

    So unnecessary to comment about 9/11

    • @locus_myles7051
      @locus_myles7051 5 месяцев назад +58

      No it wasn’t he said if someone used that as an argument not to believe in one religion or the other than your a bigot

    • @thenameiszarif
      @thenameiszarif 5 месяцев назад +37

      What about Afghanistan Iraq and currently USA supporting Israel for genocide in gaza

    • @luissnn0
      @luissnn0 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@TopReplica23whatever helps u feel better brodie

    • @thatskimpossible9961
      @thatskimpossible9961 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@TopReplica23 when he mention that he was just starting to make his point bro, a logical point. but the students doesnt accepts clif's logic.

    • @yaya2breezy591
      @yaya2breezy591 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@thatskimpossible9961cuz his logic isn’t logic

  • @masonmoore1893
    @masonmoore1893 4 месяца назад +152

    As an orthodox christian I can say this was not cliffs best moment.

    • @wastedbear1891
      @wastedbear1891 4 месяца назад +21

      It was honestly embarrassing. Someone brings up a good point and he has the PERFECT OPPORTUNITY to educate Muslims. Instead he told them to leave? That’s really odd

    • @cagegames4755
      @cagegames4755 4 месяца назад +5

      @@wastedbear1891 It was only embarrassing for the Muslim.

    • @eduardmanecuta5350
      @eduardmanecuta5350 4 месяца назад

      How so?

    • @red_crownn
      @red_crownn 4 месяца назад +22

      The two boys were committing a fallacy in their argument called circular reasoning. Their fallacy was this: Everything I say about God is true because the Quran says so.
      How do we know it's true? Because the Quran is the word of God. How do we know the Quran is the word of God? Because the Quran says it's the Word of God. That is why Cliffe cut the argument with them. Cliffe has debated many professors, and he is well-rounded in apologetics. He is not afraid of two young Muslim students. However, he has the wisdom and experience to know when people want to debate genuinely, or they just want to shout out their opinions.

    • @masonmoore1893
      @masonmoore1893 4 месяца назад +1

      @@wastedbear1891 whenever I look at theology debates, I try to see how the Christian would teach the nonbeliever in the same way Jesus would to sinners. I don’t think Jesus would say “you know what I’m just gonna leave, we’re not getting anywhere”

  • @d_d8937
    @d_d8937 4 месяца назад +22

    The best thing about Islam is that it motivates me to remain Christian

    • @theusman1121
      @theusman1121 4 месяца назад +1

      How??

    • @tsmentimmortal4848
      @tsmentimmortal4848 3 месяца назад

      so u need islam to be a christian...not god??HMMMM...

    • @XO_XO_mix
      @XO_XO_mix 20 дней назад

      Fr

    • @yusufhussein842
      @yusufhussein842 18 дней назад

      No it doesn't motivate u to go to hell I'm 100 percent sure

    • @Real_truthful_Raja
      @Real_truthful_Raja 15 дней назад

      ​@@yusufhussein842 and he will endup in hell if he stay in this path 😢

  • @farhad198
    @farhad198 5 месяцев назад +363

    Bro said God limits himself please guys

    • @momentsformoms9467
      @momentsformoms9467 5 месяцев назад +42

      No,he said majesty’s limited his Heavenly ability by coming to Earth in human form.

    • @ChosenProverb
      @ChosenProverb 5 месяцев назад +33

      God is a humble God.

    • @fire-foxgamer2131
      @fire-foxgamer2131 5 месяцев назад +20

      @@momentsformoms9467 well Malachi 3:6 “I am the Lord, I change not.” God cannot limit his attributes or else he would change and that would be an internal contradiction

    • @yovaniramirez4696
      @yovaniramirez4696 5 месяцев назад +21

      @@fire-foxgamer2131that refers to his character threat he is a god of love but also one of justice

    • @simoli516
      @simoli516 5 месяцев назад +1

      Congratz! you have a firm grasp of basic Christian theology

  • @idi-002
    @idi-002 5 месяцев назад +393

    This was surprisingly brash coming from Cliffe, he’s usually pretty patient.

    • @AhmedFatahi
      @AhmedFatahi 5 месяцев назад +137

      He realized the Muslims actually knew what they were talking about and stick to facts rather than emotional arguments of “Jesus loves you all! He sacrificed himself for your sins! Love him love him!” - That’s why he waited till they left before he got disrespectful or else they would’ve schooled him a second time. What he said about our prophet ﷺ isn’t anything new that we haven’t heard. We’re able to easily expose their lies and show proof against what they say, or bring context for whatever they try to twist.

    • @larrygonzalez5498
      @larrygonzalez5498 5 месяцев назад +40

      Cliff didn’t get cook cliff was cooking

    • @MilitaryTechNerd006
      @MilitaryTechNerd006 5 месяцев назад +47

      ​@@larrygonzalez5498 he got defeated in the debate, and there was no reason for him to get disrespectful in the end

    • @larrygonzalez5498
      @larrygonzalez5498 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@MilitaryTechNerd006 How

    • @pwhiteboards9582
      @pwhiteboards9582 5 месяцев назад +25

      @@MilitaryTechNerd006 nah, if i were cliff, i would have left also. The Quran given to Muhammad was Arabic, passed on in Arabic, maintained in original language, but received by just one man. The Bible, the oldest version we have is Greek, but the Bible given to Jesus is Aramaic. Who would give the word of God to the Word of God? You know, the guy just easily disregarded the thousands of eye witnesses who have written the words Jesus said, disregarded the hundreds and thousands of scribes and scholars that have ensured that the scripture and the words of Jesus were translated with utmost accuracy to Greek, to whatever language is at that time. That there is history, that there means the bible is the true Word of God, mass transmission at its core.

  • @theKasumaboy
    @theKasumaboy 5 месяцев назад +518

    Hahaha he ran away and kicked them out cuz he got cooked

    • @zachlloydbarotilla8277
      @zachlloydbarotilla8277 5 месяцев назад +68

      He kicked them out because they don't make sense at all.

    • @Fxzz
      @Fxzz 5 месяцев назад +48

      ​@@zachlloydbarotilla8277 Muslims were right

    • @Aza_25
      @Aza_25 5 месяцев назад +42

      @@Fxzzhow when the Bible was wrote before muhammad was alive by centuries

    • @Duknvd
      @Duknvd 5 месяцев назад +6

      They cooked and roasted him 😂

    • @A-hole_Industries
      @A-hole_Industries 5 месяцев назад +25

      ​@@FxzzChrist was right. He claimed to be God in human form and that's who he is

  • @novaesc844
    @novaesc844 4 месяца назад +287

    Cliff: Trust Jesus, Not mohammad.
    Muslim: Trust Jesus, Trust muhammad.
    (Reply to this comment if you got no braincells and make things up from the bible)

    • @phamtom27070
      @phamtom27070 4 месяца назад +40

      How are you trusting Jesus if you don't accept his divinity? And only pick and choose what he says?

    • @imthegoat2556
      @imthegoat2556 4 месяца назад +20

      Not at all, Jesus claimed to be god

    • @novaesc844
      @novaesc844 4 месяца назад +14

      @@imthegoat2556 Not a single verse explaining clearly to worship jesus or a verse even saying ”iam god”

    • @novaesc844
      @novaesc844 4 месяца назад +6

      @@phamtom27070 Because the bible isnt jesus words its been changed and translate too many times

    • @novaesc844
      @novaesc844 4 месяца назад +2

      @@phamtom27070 The quran later explains the original message of the bible, thats how i mean

  • @kenanhadziedhemovic6945
    @kenanhadziedhemovic6945 5 месяцев назад +138

    As a Muslim , we trust both , we do not divide the messengers of God , they are all the same , because they preached the same message, believing in one God alone and associating no partners to him

    • @ISLAM-is-only-way-to-hereafter
      @ISLAM-is-only-way-to-hereafter 4 месяца назад

      Stop lieing . According to old Christain bible is corrupted . Bible retten after 350 after jesus .there is lot of think that disprove bible rilabilty😊

    • @josephlewis1912
      @josephlewis1912 4 месяца назад +4

      If you don't mind me asking, why is it that there are some teachings in the Koran? That contradict what Jesus taught in the Bible.? Please do.
      Not mistake this for me throwing shade cause I'm not trying to it's just a genuine question.

    • @GregMaxwell-rw1gl
      @GregMaxwell-rw1gl 4 месяца назад +2

      That not true. The Old Testament prophets of the Holy Bible did not teach lslamic Tawhid. Nor were they Muslims. Also show me any place in the Quran where the Arabic word Tawhid is at describing your god. Provide an Aya? Surah ? Stop fabricating stuff. Provide your evidence. Good luck

    • @josephlewis1912
      @josephlewis1912 4 месяца назад

      @@GregMaxwell-rw1gl would you say you know a lot about the quran?

    • @kenanhadziedhemovic6945
      @kenanhadziedhemovic6945 4 месяца назад

      @@josephlewis1912 no problem at all , we all have questions, I am Muslim just last few years .. in quran there is a whole chapter called " Meryem " its named after Prophet Jesus mother Mary , and in this chapter and also many times in other different chapters it's says story about Jesus and his mother .. anyway long story short when Jesus was born he was talking in his cradle as a baby , he said " I am Gods servant, he will give me his book and will make me a messenger, and he will make me blessed wherever I go , and He will order me to pray and give charity , and to be good to my mother and not rude and may there be a peace on the day that am born, on the day I die and on the day the day when am risen from death " ( this doesn't mean that he ressurected , this apply for all human beings , we all will die and will be risen from dead on the day of judgment) ... unfortunately bible was changed many times and people were writing it as they wish , that's why there is many different versions of Bible unfortunately .. we believe in one God , God whi created whole universe and beyond , for example God said in quran that there is seven Earth's .. does that mean we live in multiverse or what ? Simply we do not know . Anyway , as I was saying , we believe that God sent humans many prophets , there is 25 in quran mentioned , first is Adam , first man on Earth and last one is Prophet Muhammad saws and they are all the same , Muhammad, Jesus , Moses , Abraham , they are all the same , and we love them all equally , only difference between islam and Christianity is that we believe that God sent Jesus as his messenger, to give human kind his divine message , but Christians believe that he was son of God or God himself, that's the only difference

  • @Basiito
    @Basiito 16 дней назад +4

    Imagine getting schooled by a young revert 😂😂😂... Well done Young boy.... May Allah reward you abundantly

  • @bumsicle27
    @bumsicle27 3 дня назад +2

    all yall saying that he got smoked but literally the kid wasn’t understanding his question so there was no point in Cliffe debating him

  • @Maggio97
    @Maggio97 4 месяца назад +7

    This guy said “good for him” goes to show that they were about the make the turning point but didn’t want them to

  • @Zam7000
    @Zam7000 5 месяцев назад +82

    Cliff got exposed and then told them to leave 😭🤡

    • @Windbrindle
      @Windbrindle 5 месяцев назад

      How about you read your own book learning on having sex with 9 year olds.

    • @Feisty.Success
      @Feisty.Success 5 месяцев назад +4

      He deleted the video too

    • @Windbrindle
      @Windbrindle 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@Feisty.Success you blind or what

    • @Wildxgiyu
      @Wildxgiyu 4 месяца назад +9

      ​@@Feisty.Success no he didn't

    • @KamalasFakePolls
      @KamalasFakePolls 4 месяца назад +4

      He tore that muslim a new one. Come back to reality.

  • @danzan1798
    @danzan1798 5 месяцев назад +94

    Cliffe says that he relies on Matthew Mark Luke and John, yet we don’t even know who these individuals are, and we don’t have their biographies. In fact these are are not even their real names, these are just names that were chosen as representations for these individuals. Secondly, Bible scholar Bart Ehrman proves that we do not have enough reliable manuscripts to prove that the Bible we have today is in its original form from 2000 years ago.

    • @itiswritten9423
      @itiswritten9423 5 месяцев назад +7

      Matthew, John were disciples of Jesus

    • @danzan1798
      @danzan1798 5 месяцев назад +16

      @@itiswritten9423 - Show me historical records of these “disciples”.

    • @itiswritten9423
      @itiswritten9423 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@danzan1798
      Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Simon the Cananite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed Him. (Matt 10:2-4)

    • @danzan1798
      @danzan1798 5 месяцев назад +18

      @@itiswritten9423 - You realize that is insufficient right? Did you even read my comment? The Bible is not reliable because we don’t have biblical manuscripts leading back to Jesus’s time. You’re going to have to find another historical source.

    • @itiswritten9423
      @itiswritten9423 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@danzan1798
      You say that the Bible is not reliable because there are no manuscripts leading to Jesus times; But you are willing to accept the Quran that came 600 years after Jesus, 5000 years after Abraham just because an illiterate Arabian man said it was given to him by Allah through an angel nobody else saw?
      Can you see how stupid your argument is?

  • @user-gp1qn9ut7n
    @user-gp1qn9ut7n Месяц назад +7

    bro got smooked by a student convert i cant belive what will happen if he talk to zakir naik or sheikh ottoman

  • @assoum
    @assoum 27 дней назад +36

    Cliff got smokedddddd
    He had to bring up 9/11 & terrorists
    What a goose
    The hand shake and running away says enough

    • @Ergi281
      @Ergi281 21 день назад +3

      You clearly see that the 2 kids weren’t listening to cliffe

    • @itzkhronical
      @itzkhronical 17 дней назад +15

      Cliff brought it up as saying that terrorists do not define islam, the bad actions of a few doesn't define everyone part of that group
      Plus you can't prove anything is the word of god because if you could prove undeniably that something is the word of god, there would only be one correct religion people follow no? But clearly there's multiple.

    • @Dynasty12321
      @Dynasty12321 15 дней назад

      The Quran literally preaches pedophiles, polygamy, and murder..... Cliffe just didn't want to hurt their feelings.....

  • @user-sx8kw7mh3i
    @user-sx8kw7mh3i 5 месяцев назад +134

    Lmfaooooooo he got pissed but he tried hard not to show it but still failed

    • @ruhanfaruque
      @ruhanfaruque 4 месяца назад +5

      3:57 he was sounding so angry

    • @aran_200
      @aran_200 4 месяца назад

      Hey its haram to say stuff like lmao or lmfao because it has a swear word in it. I'm just letting you know.

    • @kyletoledo1095
      @kyletoledo1095 4 месяца назад

      How did he fail??

    • @ruhanfaruque
      @ruhanfaruque 4 месяца назад +1

      @@kyletoledo1095 he got angry and shouted at 3:57 thats what he meant

    • @Middle_OfMay
      @Middle_OfMay 4 месяца назад +3

      soooooooooo trueeee he rlly was

  • @gameristicalYT
    @gameristicalYT 4 месяца назад +81

    I respect the Muslim guys, and as a Christian myself, I agree with a lot of what they say, I’ve spoken with Muslims as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ and our views are not all that different, but we both receive so much hate, why?

    • @belalalzidy7328
      @belalalzidy7328 4 месяца назад +11

      Our views are different, there are many things that are permissible for you but forbidden for us, like pork, alcohol, etc. and difference in believe which I think you obviously know. Meanwhile Islam is hated for what I believe personally because it would destroy the western economy. Many things like porn, gambling, alcohol, and banks(riba) industries which worth billions of dollars are forbidden in Islam, that's why the media is so focused on hating it. Meanwhile I see Christianity is more mocked that hated.

    • @designwithme862
      @designwithme862 4 месяца назад

      @@belalalzidy7328 lol so u mean Christianity believes in porn, gambling, alcohol and whatever you typed there? Don't you think these things are personal interests and not attributed to Christianity or Islam? Do you mean there are no muslims doing these things? You can do better please!

    • @daizeeyoung3324
      @daizeeyoung3324 4 месяца назад +5

      @@belalalzidy7328 It’s both - Christianity is mocked and hated. Theres countries notably in the middle east where being christian can get you imprisoned. Its been proven to be the most persecuted religion in the entire world.

    • @RetroMamba
      @RetroMamba 4 месяца назад

      @@daizeeyoung3324that’s propaganda, the Christian who practice Christianity in the Middle East are the real Christians. Not like the ones we have in the west

    • @belalalzidy7328
      @belalalzidy7328 3 месяца назад

      @@daizeeyoung3324 Christianity is mocked but barely hated, but Islam is purely hated by most big countries and organizations, like man they called an attack a "terrorist attack" until they confirmed that the person wasn't Muslim so they changed😂😂, and you're talking BS literally there is a church on my way to work

  • @The_Servant_of_The_Almighty
    @The_Servant_of_The_Almighty 10 дней назад +1

    May Allah reward the Brother..
    Allhumdullilah for Islam.

  • @a-aron4188
    @a-aron4188 5 месяцев назад +74

    Bro i thought he wasn't afraid of the truth but after this video, he most certainly is afraid of truth

    • @Marcelo.1927
      @Marcelo.1927 4 месяца назад +2

      😂 afraid of the truth says a Muslim

    • @red_crownn
      @red_crownn 4 месяца назад +12

      The two boys were committing a fallacy in their argument called circular reasoning. Their fallacy was this: Everything I say about God is true because the Quran says so.
      How do we know it's true? Because the Quran is the word of God. How do we know the Quran is the word of God? Because the Quran says it's the Word of God. That is why Cliffe cut the argument with them. Cliffe has debated many professors, and he is well-rounded in apologetics. He is not afraid of two young Muslim students. However, he has the wisdom and experience to know when people want to debate genuinely, or they just want to shout out their opinions.

    • @6Toroi
      @6Toroi 4 месяца назад

      bro waffled about mass transmission like the same doesn’t apply to the bible?? how is he afraid, the muslim was ignorant

    • @Sadclown2
      @Sadclown2 4 месяца назад

      ​@@red_crownnHow do you know that the Bible is the word of God? It's the same question and the same answer...

    • @red_crownn
      @red_crownn 4 месяца назад

      @@Sadclown2 We don't know ANY book is the word of God.

  • @bibelwissen2.0
    @bibelwissen2.0 5 месяцев назад +25

    Everybody saying cliff got cooked I crazy he constantly repeated the circular reasoning fallacy and ignored how cliffs debunked arguments of him and Sayed that’s ur interpretation when it’s literally true he just denies what cliff Sayed doesn’t debunk it and says it’s true because the Quran tells me

    • @furqannasir000
      @furqannasir000 5 месяцев назад

      Melting point of Iron 1538°C is Coded in Quran
      Iron is mentioned in its original form in Quran 17:50, and in 34:50, it is referenced in its melted state. What's truly fascinating is that there are precisely 1538 verses from 17:50 to 34:10, and melting point of iron is also 1538°C.
      Source for melting point: wikipedia iron
      ۞ قُلْ كُونُوا۟ حِجَارَةً أَوْ حَدِيدًا ٥٠
      Say, "Be you stones or iron
      [ Quran 17:50 ]
      ۞ وَلَقَدْ ءَاتَيْنَا دَاوُۥدَ مِنَّا فَضْلًۭا ۖ يَـٰجِبَالُ أَوِّبِى مَعَهُۥ وَٱلطَّيْرَ ۖ وَأَلَنَّا لَهُ ٱلْحَدِيدَ ١٠
      And We certainly gave David from Us bounty. [We said], "O mountains, repeat [Our] praises with him, and the birds [as
      well]." And We made pliable for him iron,
      [ Quran 34:10 ]
      Think about it: a book written in the 7th century, 1400 years ago, in the Arabian deserts, within a span of 23 years, comprising 6,236 verses and approximately 78,000 words - how could it have such precise coding? And, as I've mentioned, this is just one example out of many.
      Not a grain exists within the darkness of the Earth, nor a moist or dry thing that is not written in the Quran. I will discuss all of discoveries of coding in Quran thus far, Insha Allah (God Willing).
      And with Him are the keys of the unseen;
      none knows them except Him. And He knows what is on the land and in the sea.
      Not a leaf falls but that He knows it. And no grain is there within the darknesses of
      the earth and no moist or dry [thing] but that it is [written] in a clear record.
      [ Quran 6:59 ]
      Total no of verses in Quran from chapter 17
      to 34
      • chapter 17 .... verses 111
      • 18...110
      • 19...98
      • 20...135
      • 21...112
      • 22...78
      • 23...118
      • 24....64
      • 25...77
      • 26...227
      • 27...93
      • 28...88
      • 29...69
      • 30...60
      • 31...34
      • 32...30
      • 33...73
      • 34...54
      Melting point of silver 961.8°C is coded in Quran
      I've included this as an example, but I think I should start with it.
      In Quran 3:14, silver is mentioned in its original form, and in 9:34, it is referenced with the punishment of hell fire. What's interesting is that between these two verses, there are 961 verses, miraculously matching the melting point of silver, which is 961.8°C. In verse 9:34, after the word "silver," there are 8 words, giving us exactly 961.8.
      Source for melting point: wikipedia
      Its really like emaan booster isn't it?
      ۞زُيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ حُبُّ ٱلشَّهَوَٰتِ مِنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ وَٱلْبَنِينَ وَٱلْقَنَـٰطِيرِ ٱلْمُقَنطَرَةِ مِنَ ٱلذَّهَبِ وَٱلْفِضَّةِ وَٱلْخَيْلِ ٱلْمُسَوَّمَةِ وَٱلْأَنْعَـٰمِ وَٱلْحَرْثِ ۗ ذَٰلِكَ مَتَـٰعُ ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ ٱلدُّنْيَا ۖ وَٱللَّهُ عِندَهُۥ حُسْنُ ٱلْمَـَٔابِ ١٤
      Beautified for people is the love of that
      which they desire - of women and sons, heaped-up sums of gold and silver, fine
      branded horses, and cattle and tilled land.
      That is the enjoyment of worldly life, but
      Allāh has with Him the best return [i.e., Paradise].
      [ Quran 3:14 ]
      ۞ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟ إِنَّ كَثِيرًۭا مِّنَ ٱلْأَحْبَارِ وَٱلرُّهْبَانِ لَيَأْكُلُونَ أَمْوَٰلَ ٱلنَّاسِ بِٱلْبَـٰطِلِ وَيَصُدُّونَ عَن سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ ۗ وَٱلَّذِينَ يَكْنِزُونَ ٱلذَّهَبَ وَٱلْفِضَّةَ وَلَا يُنفِقُونَهَا فِى سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ فَبَشِّرْهُم بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍۢ ٣٤
      8 words after word "silver"
      O you who have believed, indeed many of the scholars and the monks devour the wealth of people unjustly and avert [them] from the way of Allāh. And those who hoard gold and silver and spend it not in
      the way of Allāh - give them tidings of a painful punishment.
      [ Quran 9:34 ]
      Think about it: a book written in the 7th century, 1400 years ago, in the Arabian deserts, within a span of 23 years, comprising 6,236 verses and approximately 78,000 words - how could it have such precise coding? And, as I've mentioned, this is just one example out of many.
      Not a grain exists within the darkness of the Earth, nor a moist or dry thing that is not written in the Quran. I will discuss all of discoveries of coding in Quran thus far, Insha Allah (God Willing).
      And with Him are the keys of the unseen;
      none knows them except Him. And He knows what is on the land and in the sea.
      Not a leaf falls but that He knows it. And no grain is there within the darknesses of
      the earth and no moist or dry [thing] but that it is [written] in a clear record.
      [ Quran 6:59 ]
      Total number of verses in Quran from chapter 3 to 9
      ■ chapter 3...verses 200
      ■ 4...176
      ■ 5...120
      ■ 6...165
      ■ 7...206
      ■ 8...75
      ■ 9...129Distance from Masjid Al - Haram to Al-Aqsa 767 miles is coded in Quran
      In verse 9:28 of the Quran, Masjid al-Haram is mentioned, and in 17:1, Al-Aqsa Mosque is mentioned. There are 767 verses after 9:28 untill 17:1. Geographically, these two mosques are separated by 767 miles.
      Source: Google Earth
      يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟ إِنَّمَا ٱلْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌۭ فَلَا يَقْرَبُوا۟ ٱلْمَسْجِدَ ٱلْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هَـٰذَا ۚ وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ عَيْلَةًۭ فَسَوْفَ يُغْنِيكُمُ ٱللَّهُ مِن فَضْلِهِۦٓ إِن شَآءَ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌۭ ٢٨
      Believers, those who ascribe partners to God are truly unclean: do not let them come near the Sacred Mosque after this year. If you are afraid you may become poor, [bear in mind that] God will enrich you out of His bounty if He pleases: God is all knowing and wise.
      [ Quran 9:28 ]
      سُبْحَـٰنَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَسْرَىٰ بِعَبْدِهِۦ لَيْلًۭا مِّنَ ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْحَرَامِ إِلَى ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْأَقْصَا ٱلَّذِى بَـٰرَكْنَا حَوْلَهُۥ لِنُرِيَهُۥ مِنْ ءَايَـٰتِنَآ ۚ إِنَّهُۥ هُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلْبَصِيرُ ١
      Exalted is He who took His Servant [i.e., Prophet Muḥammad (ﷺ)] by night from al-Masjid al-Ḥarām to al-Masjid al-Aqṣā, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing,3 the Seeing.
      [ Quran 17:1 ]
      ■ Remember Al-Aqsa mosque is mention only in verse 17:1 out of 6236 verses in Quran.
      Think about it: a book written in the 7th century, 1400 years ago, in the Arabian
      deserts, within a span of 23 years, comprising 6,236 verses and approximately 78,000 words - how could it have such precise coding? And let me tell you that this is only one example out of thousands that have been discovered so far in this great book which is undoubtedly from the Lord of the worlds.
      Not a grain exists within the darkness of the Earth, nor a moist or dry thing that is not written in the Quran. I will discuss all of discoveries of coding in Quran thus far, Insha Allah (God Willing).
      And with Him are the keys of the unseen;
      none knows them except Him. And He knows what is on the land and in the sea.
      Not a leaf falls but that He knows it. And no grain is there within the darknesses of
      the earth and no moist or dry [thing] but that it is [written] in a clear record.
      [ Quran 6:59 ]
      Total number of verses in Quran from chapter 9 to 17
      ● chapter 9....129 verses
      ● 10...109
      ● 11...123
      ● 12...111
      ● 13...43
      ● 14...52
      ● 15...99
      ● 16..128
      ● 17...111
      And what is more interesting is that when we add all the verse numbers in which
      Masjid Al Haram is mentioned before Al-Aqsa Mosque, we get the number exactly 1234. 767 miles is equal to 1234 kilometers."
      "Masjid Al Haram is mentioned in the following verses in the Quran before Al-Aqsa: 17:1."
      ■Chapter no 2 verse 144
      ■ 2 149
      ■ 2 150
      ■ 2 191
      ■ 2 196
      ■ 2 217
      ■ 5 2
      In the above verse, Masjid Al Haram is mentioned two times. Since we are adding verse numbers, I mentioned only one.
      ■ 5 97
      ■ 8 34
      ■ 9 17
      ■ 9 19
      ■ 9 28
      Source: corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=Hrm
      You have to type it, link is unclickable
      Think about it: a book written in the 7th century, 1400 years ago, in the Arabian deserts, within a span of 23 years, comprising 6,236 verses and approximately 78,000 words - how could it have such precise coding? And, as I've mentioned, this is just one example out of many.
      Not a grain exists within the darkness of the Earth, nor a moist or dry thing that is
      not written in the Quran. I will discuss all of
      discoveries of coding in Quran thus far, Insha Allah (God Willing).

    • @Aajd549
      @Aajd549 4 месяца назад

      "the father is greater than i, i do through the will of the father"
      one of the arguments that the revert used. he used way more, you are just too big of a dumbass to know.

    • @tsmentimmortal4848
      @tsmentimmortal4848 3 месяца назад

      yaaa cliff debunked his argument by saying "JESUS is a human being"....and using words like "should i trust them who did 9/11" basically saying muslims are terr....his criteria for a religion to be true: WHO CAME before who...so i would advice him to be a jewish,cus judaism came first...moses came first,so he should be jewish...wait nvm,hindus have evidences of their temples and scriptures being 100k years old....so he should be a hindu if thats his criteria for a religion to be true....cliff said "jesus is a human being,came from womb of mary"...he literally said jesus is a human....sayed couldnt debate good,but he tried...and he failed cliff hard...

  • @RKAM_
    @RKAM_ 3 месяца назад +10

    Christian man was humbled by a teenager

  • @Ogeeeyoshi
    @Ogeeeyoshi 18 часов назад

    In the Quran it says there’s nothing wrong with being Christian or Jew. However I started off Christian and reverted to Islam and I feel like that’s one of the best decisions I made.

  • @MoïsePicard-ef8fr
    @MoïsePicard-ef8fr 3 месяца назад +4

    But, was Muhammad even a "prophet??????..." That's the big question.

    • @phamtom27070
      @phamtom27070 3 месяца назад

      he was the mouth foaming type of prophet, that can be found alongside the rest of demon possessed.

    • @mohammedaref9665
      @mohammedaref9665 2 месяца назад +2

      Bro😂😂 you are way behind in this
      Please try to read the Quran for yourself before asking others questions that you can know the answer yourself

    • @polokucoch8112
      @polokucoch8112 Месяц назад

      @@mohammedaref9665 Mahamed was NOT a prophet:
      allah SPOKE to Adam, Moses, David, and other prophets in the quran, allah EVEN spoke to SATAN, BUT allah NEVER spoke to mahamed.
      mahamed . NEVER did any signs in the quran
      mahamed NEVER did any prophecies in the quran
      mahamed was a SINNER in the quran
      mahamed was not given a name at birth in the quran
      mahamed doesn’t know who his father is in the quran
      lmahamed was DECEIVED by SATAN, WAS BEWITCHED FOR A YEAR
      mahamed making up stories? Show me where the angel identifies himself as “jibreel” in the Quran.
      mahamed was NOT a prophet.

    • @maitheschelfhout4882
      @maitheschelfhout4882 5 дней назад

      Mohammed was possesed. And didnt do any miracles. Jesus is the son of God, thats why God gave him the power to cure people, to even raise the dead. And God, his father who worked through him is stronger than satan, thats also the reason satan couldnt possess him. Jesus lived a holy life, never was fysical ( because God is holy, he works with the ghost not with the body). While Mohammed married a 12 year old child. So many proofs but you must throw off your blindness before you can see this. And for this you need to exept Jesus as your savior, and son of God ❤

  • @gamertracker---ld
    @gamertracker---ld 5 месяцев назад +83

    Cliff got smoked😮‍💨

    • @craxy-p6i
      @craxy-p6i 4 месяца назад +7

      Cliffe didn’t run away? Cliffe answers questions , ask a question,Muslim doesn’t answer, Muslim ask a question , cliffe answer, ect, Muslim lies about Jesus not speaking Greek , cliffe ends the debate. I see no problem with cliffe only this Muslim who was literally lying and not answering questions

    • @kyletoledo1095
      @kyletoledo1095 4 месяца назад +1

      How??

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад +2

      Saying got smoked and asked how? Muslims running away no answers 🤣

    • @gamertracker---ld
      @gamertracker---ld 4 месяца назад

      @@blessing21I don’t use RUclips, I use TikTok but the reason he got smoked the Muslim said stuff that nobody thinked about it like that and cliffe kept saying the same point because the question the kid asked was complicated to answer for christians

    • @red_crownn
      @red_crownn 4 месяца назад +2

      The two boys were committing a fallacy in their argument called circular reasoning. Their fallacy was this: Everything I say about God is true because the Quran says so.
      How do we know it's true? Because the Quran is the word of God. How do we know the Quran is the word of God? Because the Quran says it's the Word of God. That is why Cliffe cut the argument with them. Cliffe has debated many professors, and he is well-rounded in apologetics. He is not afraid of two young Muslim students. However, he has the wisdom and experience to know when people want to debate genuinely, or they just want to shout out their opinions.

  • @pausaniasi9389
    @pausaniasi9389 4 месяца назад +15

    2:15 needlessly racist

    • @jaynogamingroadto28k23
      @jaynogamingroadto28k23 4 месяца назад

      don't think you understand. he says if the reason you reject the religion of islam or muhammad because of what terrorists then you're a bigot

    • @RadOn60FPS
      @RadOn60FPS Месяц назад +1

      Ikr💯

    • @AdiGV
      @AdiGV 20 дней назад +2

      Was fishing out of humiliation.

    • @troystpaul100
      @troystpaul100 18 дней назад +1

      Islam is not a race.

    • @itzkhronical
      @itzkhronical 17 дней назад +1

      No? Rewatch it, he says if he judges all muslims based on a few terrorists then he is a bigot, a fool.

  • @SabySoto
    @SabySoto 3 месяца назад +2

    Muslims will always believe that Jesus is a Prophet and the Bible was written by man. And the Quran was miraculously written by spirits. I have this conflict with my baby daddy. He is Muslim and I am Christian. Our daughter was Baptized in the Catholic Church and now she’s learning Arabic and Quran and wears a Hajib to School. The conflict is so diverse. I show love and he shows hate. She is only 11. I pray the Holy Spirit will bring her fully to Jesus. Amen 🙏🏻 ❤

    • @SJissaved
      @SJissaved 3 месяца назад +1

      I prayed for you. Keep fighting the good fight and keep reading the Bible (especially the Gospels). And always remember what Jesus did for you.

    • @damienducoint7799
      @damienducoint7799 3 месяца назад

      American Christian priest, biblical scholar, theologian and exegete Raymond E. Brown [1928-1998 G] said:
      "Approximately three thousand manuscripts of the Greek New Testament, copied between the 2nd and 17th centuries, have been preserved (in whole or in part), to which must be added more than two thousand handwritten lectionaries containing sections (pericopes) of the New Testament arranged for liturgical reading since the 7th century. These witnesses to the NT text do not agree with each other on many points, but few of these differences are significant. No autograph or original manuscript of a New Testament book has been preserved; the differences occurred during the copying of the original. *Not all are the result of copyists' errors; some are the result of deliberate changes.* Copyists sometimes felt obliged to *improve* the Greek of the received text, to *modernize* spelling, *add* explanatory phrases, *harmonize* the Gospels, and even *omit* a point they considered doubtful. One might think that the oldest preserved copies (in whole or in part) of the Greek NT are the best guide back to the originals; but this is not necessarily so."
      What do we know about the New Testament? page 86, Bayard French editions, 2011.

    • @damienducoint7799
      @damienducoint7799 3 месяца назад

      Many people have the misconception that Islam is a new religion that came into being 1400 years ago, and that the Prophet Muhammad sws is the founder of this "new" religion.
      In reality, Islam has been around since the beginning of time, ever since man first set foot on this earth. Prophet Muhammad sws is not the founder of this religion, but the last messenger of God to whom the last message, the Holy Koran, was revealed.
      "Say: "We believe in Allah, in what was sent down to us, in what was sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, and in what was brought to Moses, Jesus and the Prophets, from their Lord: we make no distinction between them; and to Him we are Submissive [Muslims]." (Sura 3 verse 84)
      And the name of the Prophet Muhammad sws is mentioned in the Bible! In the Old Testament to be exact, in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16 in Hebrew: "Hiko mamtakim vé khulo Mahamad'im , ...................."
      Muhammad'im is the plural of "Mahamad". In Hebrew, we add the "im" at the end of words to mark a form of respect.
      And that's not all. It is also prophesied in :
      Deuteronomy, chapter 18 verses 18 and 19.
      Isaiah, chapter 29, verse 12.
      The Gospel of John, chapter 14 verse 16.
      The Gospel of John, chapter 15, verse 26.
      The Gospel of John, chapter 16, verse 7.
      The Gospel of John, chapter 16 verses 12,13,14.
      Definition of the word Islam: "To submit to the will of God".
      Islam comes from the word root "salam" and also from the word root "silm". Which means: yield your will to God. And true peace is the peace gained when you yield your will to God (Allah sobhanah wa taعala) accept Islam.
      Allah sobhanah wa taعala says:
      " 19. Surely, the religion accepted from Allah is Islam." (Sura 3 verse 19)
      What about Judaism? What about Christianity?
      Is there no faith like Judaism or Christianity?
      If you look closely at the texts and speeches of the PES prophets, these names don't exist. They are names sometimes given by pagans or others to designate those who practiced a particular cult, such as monotheism.
      Where does this word "Judaism" come from? If you ask a Jew, or even a Jewish scholar, "Is this word present in the Torah? "They'll say no, it's not.
      "Is it present in the Talmud?" they'll also say no.
      "In that case, in the mishnah?", either.
      So where does it come from? Well, the word "Judaism" derives its etymology from the word "Judah".
      And Judah was one of Jacob's sons.
      He had 12 children, and Judah was the eldest. Subsequently, the Jews or Israelites conquered Palestine, which was divided into 12 tribes.
      There were 12 tribes and each tribe had a territory in Palestine.
      Jesus p.s.l., who had a royal origin through David, inherited this kingdom of 12 kingdoms. Hence the fact that he is called "lord" in the royal sense and also the king of kings, and that he tells the 12 apostles this: "These are the twelve whom Jesus sent, after giving them the following instructions: Do not go to the Gentiles, and do not enter the towns of the Samaritans; rather, go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 10 5-6
      The part of the land occupied by Judah was called "Judea", and the people outside said that the religion practiced by Judah in Judea was Judaism.
      This is how the name "Judaism" came about. It's an invented, concocted word.
      How did the word "Christianity" come about? Does it appear in the Christian Bible?
      No, it doesn't, and neither does the word bible. The word doesn't appear, but the word "Christians" does in the New Testament.
      At the time, in the city of Antioch, the enemies of Jesus' followers were called "Christians", implying that they were worshippers of Christ.
      So what was the name of the religion they practiced?
      If Moses were alive today, and we had the opportunity to meet him, perhaps even in the afterlife, and ask him "O Moses tell us, what is the name of your religion that you preached? "
      I wouldn't expect him to answer Judaism, because poor man, he's never heard the name.
      He's never heard the word "Judaism" in his life. He's more likely to say, "My religion is total submission to God's will". In a nutshell, that's the Arabic definition of the word "Islam".
      For Jesus pbuh too. If we had the chance to ask him "O Jesus, what is your religion? "
      I wouldn't expect him to answer "Christianity" either. Because he's never heard that word either? It was the pagans (Acts 11:26) who gave that name to his followers for the record.
      It would be more likely for him to answer this: "My religion is total submission to the will of God" "Islam". Something he at least formulates when he says: "For I came down from heaven not to do my own will, but the will of the one who sent me." John 6:38
      ONE GOD
      ONE MESSAGE
      ONE RELIGION
      The religion of Moses pbuh was Islam, and Moses pbuh was a Muslim.
      The religion of Jesus pbuh was Islam and Jesus was a Muslim.
      Does this mean they followed Muhammad sws? No... Absolutely not!
      Muslim means a person who submits to God's will, as said and seen above.
      Abraham was a Muslim
      David was a Muslim
      Solomon was a muslim
      Moses was a Muslim
      Jesus was a muslim
      Muhammad sws was a Muslim
      All Allah's prophets are Muslims, from Adam, through Abraham, Moses, Jacob, David, Solomon, Noah, Jesus, etc., to the last one, Muhammad sws. PES until the last one, Muhammad sws.
      ruclips.net/video/3D7BMk4AUls/видео.html
      Anyone who submits to God's will is de facto a Muslim.
      The whole of nature is Muslim, everything submits to God's will.
      Man often goes against God's will, and is therefore a disbeliever, like the man or woman who defines himself or herself as an atheist, agnostic and says many things about himself or herself, and then rebels, denying and rejecting the truth, out of vanity and pride, when it presents itself to him or her.
      But know that nature, everything in nature - the sun, the moon, the stars, the plants, the planets... Everything submits!
      Basically, in Islam, it's all Muslim.
      Allah sobhanah wa taعala says:
      "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, he will not be accepted, and he will be, in the Hereafter, among the losers." (Sura 3 verse 85)
      Ahmed Deedat, Dr. Zakir Naik

    • @maitheschelfhout4882
      @maitheschelfhout4882 5 дней назад

      Why you married a muslim? Did you married for God in a church? Because if you didnt you are not realy married for God and you live in sin.

  • @Sccott7
    @Sccott7 4 месяца назад +11

    This young man made a lot of sense.

    • @polokucoch8112
      @polokucoch8112 Месяц назад

      he had questions but no answers.
      Where doe he get that Jesus spoke Aramaic? Did Jesus speak other languages also? he's incorrect in his statements...

  • @jasontimoch8672
    @jasontimoch8672 4 месяца назад +73

    literally non of those people cliff listed met jesus.

    • @joesullivan5508
      @joesullivan5508 3 месяца назад +21

      You dont know what your talking about😂💀

    • @mohammedaref9665
      @mohammedaref9665 2 месяца назад +5

      Exactly, actually no one knows for sure who these people are and where they lived or died and who are their ancestors and what are their full names

    • @ayodeleibironke
      @ayodeleibironke 2 месяца назад

      They were literally the disciples of Christ. ​@@mohammedaref9665

    • @user-fl7ug8kv1u
      @user-fl7ug8kv1u 2 месяца назад +1

      You are very wrong. In the end you will know who reigns supreme. Christ the Son of God or a mere mortal named Mo.

    • @jasontimoch8672
      @jasontimoch8672 2 месяца назад +5

      @@user-fl7ug8kv1u oh ok then I guess a man named mark luke and Paul met Jesus in the desert in the Middle East lol… somehow…

  • @nerdrose0203
    @nerdrose0203 2 месяца назад +47

    i had a open heart surgery and was sent to the operating room twice due to complications, was stuck and in the ICU and felt my body dying.
    I prayed to GOD to extend my life. ALLAH didn't answer my prayer. it was JESUS who answered my prayer. JESUS is the word of GOD.

    • @dadomussa8619
      @dadomussa8619 2 месяца назад +4

      How do you know ?😂 you should be grateful that u are alive he gave u a chance to turn to him pray to the father you should love Jesus but u should pray to the father not to the son!

    • @nerdrose0203
      @nerdrose0203 2 месяца назад +12

      @@dadomussa8619 laugh all u want. but Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. No one can go to the Father but through HIM.

    • @mumuzeze
      @mumuzeze Месяц назад +5

      Bro gonna lose his mind when he googles what god is in Aramaic 😂

    • @Uncommon1111
      @Uncommon1111 Месяц назад +5

      Oh hell nah now some people can see and speak to god 💀that person knows it wasn’t Allah but Jesus omagad

    • @Uncommon1111
      @Uncommon1111 Месяц назад

      You could have died Allah saved you to give you another chance you should at least be grateful and open your eyes

  • @JunaidAhmad-nq5gq
    @JunaidAhmad-nq5gq 3 месяца назад +89

    I never seen cliffe debated with a real muslim Alim..He just wonder on the streets and debate with teenagers.But anways bro smoked him.

    • @brianrosas9363
      @brianrosas9363 2 месяца назад +20

      Kid asks question
      >cliffe answers
      >Kid doesnt understand
      >asks same question
      > Cliffe answers
      >kid asks 2 more times
      ›Cliffe gets tired, tells him theres no point debating No humble

    • @crxptic.t
      @crxptic.t 2 месяца назад +14

      @@brianrosas9363exactly. These Muslims saying Muslim kid won are all from TikTok who dropped a comment and left not even watching the debate

    • @Steakterysteak
      @Steakterysteak Месяц назад

      Your religious was created by a man who married a 6 year old

    • @denaldenbestie3916
      @denaldenbestie3916 Месяц назад +3

      The kid uses mass transmission to support his argument but it doesn't make sense because multiple people believe in the Quran and the Bible.
      Him saying that mass transmission proves that a book is the word of God is just incorrect because that means that two religions are the word of God due to the large amounts of people claiming it's true.
      IF him claiming that mass transmission proves that a book is the word if God is TRUE.
      THAT means the Bible is true due to the amount of Christians claiming the Bible is true.
      The Muslim doesn't understand his error and continues to speak his words.
      Due to the lack of understanding of the young man Cliffe cannot have a debate because he is one sided.

    • @crxptic.t
      @crxptic.t Месяц назад

      @@denaldenbestie3916 exactly

  • @Teednend8237
    @Teednend8237 Месяц назад +5

    Bro ran into a educated man and didn’t want to get exposed so he cut it short😅

    • @polokucoch8112
      @polokucoch8112 Месяц назад

      LOL! Funny how the muslim guy relies on the BIBLE to get his information. He uses it as fact too. 🤣

    • @Teednend8237
      @Teednend8237 Месяц назад +2

      @@polokucoch8112 Muslim guy knows the scriptures while the Christains can’t even tell you what’s in page 32

    • @polokucoch8112
      @polokucoch8112 Месяц назад

      @@Teednend8237 ur missing the point. Anyone can get verses from any scripture. the muslim guy relies on the BIBLE as truth and fact. 🤷‍♀

    • @Teednend8237
      @Teednend8237 Месяц назад

      @@polokucoch8112 the Bible says it itself that Jesus wasn’t god, how much more facts do you need

    • @polokucoch8112
      @polokucoch8112 Месяц назад

      @@Teednend8237 John 10:33 - “We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”
      THE CORRUPTED quran :
      quran 11:81
      Hafs quran : Lot was commanded to bring his family, EXCLUDING his wife, and don’t let anyone look back
      quran 11:81
      Al-Bazzi quran : Lot was commanded to bring his family, INCLUDING his wife, but she will look back
      It’s better to read it in arabic.

  • @Bossy23
    @Bossy23 4 месяца назад +8

    At least he said Jesus lived in Palestine not in Israel, that's the only honest part I saw of him

  • @CookieMOA143
    @CookieMOA143 4 месяца назад +45

    POV:when you lose an argument and then you just leave

    • @brianrosas9363
      @brianrosas9363 2 месяца назад +13

      Kid asks question
      >cliffe answers
      >Kid doesnt understand
      >asks same question
      > Cliffe answers
      >kid asks 2 more times
      ›Cliffe gets tired, tells him theres no point debating No humble

    • @CookieMOA143
      @CookieMOA143 2 месяца назад

      @@brianrosas9363 💀💀💗

    • @Pozel.
      @Pozel. 2 месяца назад

      @@brianrosas9363💀

    • @Bmvq-q5w
      @Bmvq-q5w Месяц назад

      @@CookieMOA143whats with skull?

    • @Steakterysteak
      @Steakterysteak Месяц назад

      Your religious was created by a man who married a 6 year old

  • @m1dri
    @m1dri 4 месяца назад +12

    You've cut out the part where when the muslims left the debate, he started to mock them about the Prophet Muhammad's "sex habits" and started to falsely claim about what he did to women, his lifestyle, and his claim of the Hadiths, RIGHT AFTER pointing out that he respected the Prophet Muhammad. Just sounds like hypocrisy here.

    • @AdiGV
      @AdiGV 20 дней назад

      Exactly! Liar and Hypocrite.

    • @Real_truthful_Raja
      @Real_truthful_Raja 15 дней назад

      One more lower mindset people sitting behind the electronic gadget and making his own philosophy 😂😂keep it up but islam wilk never stop spreading

  • @kyleallen6292
    @kyleallen6292 3 месяца назад +2

    It literally just comes down to who you believe and have faith is the true prophet. They can’t agree on that… end of discussion. I’ll still gladly accept Jesus Christ as my savior.

  • @dioudonnesumaili7901
    @dioudonnesumaili7901 3 месяца назад +23

    Our Muslims friends go above and beyond defending their religion that's why I don't even try anymore.

    • @phamtom27070
      @phamtom27070 3 месяца назад +3

      They give up arguing about their religion with me, sad to see them give up halfway in the argument and walk away thinking they're right.

    • @rashikajhan4748
      @rashikajhan4748 2 месяца назад

      Bro try

    • @amn1560
      @amn1560 Месяц назад

      Try​@@phamtom27070

    • @masterBong1
      @masterBong1 Месяц назад +2

      they’re sheep 😂😂🐑

    • @masterSchleem
      @masterSchleem Месяц назад

      @@phamtom27070no they walk away bc you can argue witj a scientist and you can come to a conclusion. but what conclusion would you get talking to a wall? youre the wall

  • @ChiTownzDre
    @ChiTownzDre 5 месяцев назад +130

    Alhamdulilah

  • @yangwekesa3818
    @yangwekesa3818 4 месяца назад +6

    The boy was calm collected and with nothing but points....no feelings just facts. Great delivery

    • @AdiGV
      @AdiGV 20 дней назад

      Hence Cliffe ran. Couldn’t deal with facts and truths anymore. Had to find someplace to hide and preach to a different quire.

    • @itzkhronical
      @itzkhronical 17 дней назад

      ​@@AdiGVnot true, when two people have beliefs that clash and aren't open to the idea of another belief, nothing gets done, that's what happened in the end.

  • @NaomiCantora
    @NaomiCantora 14 дней назад +1

    I wish Cliff would've just let them talk instead of ending the conversation. I really wanted to hear what they had to say and then what Cliff would've had to say after.

    • @Plliia
      @Plliia 13 дней назад

      I think they were trying to talk about how Quran has an information that tells about the future and that is a miracle.
      You can watch a video with the title of “shocking fact about Quran”

  • @helllnahhh9459
    @helllnahhh9459 4 месяца назад +57

    Bro the the people defending cliffes are funny asl😭😭😭😭

    • @Counselornsangma
      @Counselornsangma 4 месяца назад

      Oh you felt proud that the Muslim young man won a debate? If a Christian losing a debate, it's because he has limited knowledge then the Muslim. Not all peoples are knowledgeable. Anyway Islam is false

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад +6

      Actually the people defend Mohammad are no brainer 🥴

    • @apb1922
      @apb1922 4 месяца назад

      @@blessing21 a teen ager cooked ur lil cliff, and yall still want to see cliff debating agains mohamed hijab? mohamed would demolish ur lil cliff lmaooooooo

    • @red_crownn
      @red_crownn 4 месяца назад +4

      The two boys were committing a fallacy in their argument called circular reasoning. Their fallacy was this: Everything I say about God is true because the Quran says so.
      How do we know it's true? Because the Quran is the word of God. How do we know the Quran is the word of God? Because the Quran says it's the Word of God. That is why Cliffe cut the argument with them. Cliffe has debated many professors, and he is well-rounded in apologetics. He is not afraid of two young Muslim students. However, he has the wisdom and experience to know when people want to debate genuinely, or they just want to shout out their opinions.

    • @helllnahhh9459
      @helllnahhh9459 4 месяца назад +1

      @@red_crownnwe were watching the same video? The debate was going where well and he brought up Bible verses and Quran verses what are you talking about? Rewatch the vid bro

  • @wajidhussain6996
    @wajidhussain6996 5 месяцев назад +115

    Cliff gone home crying 😢

    • @itiswritten9423
      @itiswritten9423 5 месяцев назад +18

      The Quran is in Arabic and talks about Jesus. Jesus did not speak Arabic. That means the Quran is not the word of Allah.

    • @amarureal6147
      @amarureal6147 5 месяцев назад +6

      ​​​@@itiswritten9423this doesn't make a sense, God send his words to his prophet by his mother language what's the problem with that ?

    • @basitali486
      @basitali486 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@amarureal6147bcz they don't have original bible 😅😢 in Aramaic😅😅

    • @amarureal6147
      @amarureal6147 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@basitali486 it's weird bro , wallahi sometimes I get shocked when I think there are people worshiping Jesus and believe that jesus is god at the same time he eats so, he feels hungry 1 he sleeps too so, he feels tired 2 ... etc and all this seems more logical to them than the Islamic belief which all the prophets are humans like us trying to save us to worship the god ( Allah ) who is the most High, the Great who create all this universe who doesn't need to eat and sleep. It's weird no !!!

    • @basitali486
      @basitali486 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@amarureal6147 right brother its clearly mentioed in soorae maida and soorae Aale imran that jesus as is human bcz he eat, sleep etc, but as u know He is the one who created us and He give hadayat if He want , Allah Almighty ❤

  • @captain603
    @captain603 4 месяца назад +19

    To point out something Cliffe failed to mention is realistically people in the region especially Jews had to be multilingual due to Greek occupation during the Hellenistic period after the death of Alexander the Great. It is very likely Jesus had to know Greek as a 2nd language because it was the official language used in trade and government in the region. There has even been archeological findings of Jewish graves with Greek inscriptions further pointing to the multilingual nature of the region. Saying the Gospels aren’t authentic because they aren’t written in Aramaic holds no weight if you actually study the region and languages used in the time of Jesus.

    • @GolfingWithNash
      @GolfingWithNash 2 месяца назад +1

      Good explanation

    • @rexsthegreat22
      @rexsthegreat22 24 дня назад

      It is a well-established fact that Jesus spoke Hebrew and/ or Aramaic, as these were the languages of the people he was sent to-the children of Israel. The idea that he spoke Greek is speculative and lacks definitive proof. Additionally, it's reasonable to consider that translators would have been available if needed, so learning other languages might not have been necessary. Let’s not go down the path of hypothesis and theories, but rather best to adhere to the clear and simple truth presented to us.

    • @GolfingWithNash
      @GolfingWithNash 24 дня назад

      @@rexsthegreat22 The official language of the area was greek, hed have to know it atleast a bit to even get around like he did.

  • @user-gu1yp9jr3g
    @user-gu1yp9jr3g 2 месяца назад +1

    Mohammad - accepts violence Jesus - love thy neighbor love your enemies.
    I’m sorry but my god is the god of love 🤷🏽

    • @RealmStudios1
      @RealmStudios1 2 месяца назад

      Huh?? Your Christian because of societal preference over actual scripture

  • @mohammedaref9665
    @mohammedaref9665 2 месяца назад +7

    Cliffe got schooled in ways he never imagined possible. Bravo to the muslim man for being such an educated muslim

  • @seensaw7339
    @seensaw7339 3 месяца назад +5

    3:20 = 2Tim 3:16
    4:21 = John 10:30
    Rev 22:13, John 14:6, Luke 20:13-16, John 1:1, Isaiah 7:14, 9:6,
    You can Google it and get all 100 verses that tell you Jesus is God before he was born- prophecy, during his life where he says and afterwards eyewitnesses. Either you claim you don't Believe have Faith in the Bible or just admit you don't want to follow it. To say he doesn't admit he is the Son of God and also God is lying when there is ample evidence to the contrary.
    In the end you can accept that God loves you. Just like any parent it doesn't depend on reciprocity. But to be with him you must accept his love and his teaching. He so loved the world that he sent Jesus to save it. Even if you stop arguing the new testament the old testament points to Jesus. So how would you debunk Isaiah preserved in the original Hebrew? You either have faith in God or man. The Bible demands faith in God the Quran faith in man.

  • @simonsamaroo400
    @simonsamaroo400 4 месяца назад +39

    Aslaamu alaikum well done my brother may Allah reward u for teaching others AlhumduAllah ☪️

    • @marthaoceanblue
      @marthaoceanblue 4 месяца назад +3

      the fact that i can’t even understand what u just said proves one of Cliffs points, if Islam is for all, why can we not get a fully accurate translation and understanding unless we speak the language? i would literally have to learn arabic just to do the prayers.

    • @TropTropical
      @TropTropical 3 месяца назад

      @@marthaoceanblue you are legit stupid my guy

    • @aderpyturt
      @aderpyturt 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@marthaoceanbluemy brother here greets. Assalamualaikum, meaning "peace be upon you". Allah is actually just the Arabic word for God, and Alhamdulillah means "praise be to God" while many forget, it is a virtue to share knowledge. In the country I come from, while Arabic is not the national language, we are taught it in schools as a secondary or tertiary. It is the duty of the household and community to teach the meanings of our Dua and Solat (prayers). To those who seek knowledge, may Allah bless you.

    • @CookieMOA143
      @CookieMOA143 2 месяца назад

      @@marthaoceanblue Arabic is the language of Islam and no one can change that

    • @crysthiantorres5979
      @crysthiantorres5979 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@marthaoceanblue here is a funky thing about islam , they dont see god as a father figure and they call him Allah funnily enough neither the jews or the Christians have any texts in which they call God by allah thats because his actual name is YAHWEH. Other funky things only the Virgin mary gets name dropped in the Quran funnily enough Mohammads mother wasnt important enough and when "gods prophet" mohammad asked to pray for his mothers soul he was told to forget about it because islam doesnt allow for someone to pray for non believers graves guessing Mohammads mom wasnt all that holy. Mohammad also was a bit of a g(R)apist and a predator considering his wife (aisha) was 9 at time of consumation. If he was a messanger of god. Then god wouldn't have allowed that knowing the damage its doing to the child. Modern day science has proved that till the woman isnt of age and are a bit more developed. God is all knowing so he would know anf if mohammad was truly his messenger he wouldve told him or revealed it to him someway. More food for thought Islamics believe that the quran will intercede for them in the day of judgement that would make the quran a personable thing kind of like the holy spirit that helps morally guide Christians unto gods path; in otherwords muslims are not monotheistic like they believe. Something else the big black rock in mecca they all sorta worship but claim not to worship (i mean just look at how they act around that thing) they believe the black stone was put in there by abraham however that couldn't be possible because abraham was from Ur Kasdim (aka Ur of the Chaldees) it was located in southern mesopotamia present day iraq and ABRAHAM migrated to Canaan, if you guys know geography that is Israel in the Mediterranean he never went to mecca (aka makkha) which is current day saudi arabia. The torah (the old testament) proves this to also be true as his story is pretty well recorded in the book of (bereshit)genesis.

  • @Shiyam-eh3dj
    @Shiyam-eh3dj 8 дней назад

    Luke 7:16: After Jesus raised the widow’s son from the dead, the people proclaimed, “A great prophet has appeared among us,” and “God has come to help his people.”

  • @Maria-zn5sp
    @Maria-zn5sp 3 месяца назад +21

    So the Muslims say that Jesus only spoke Aramaic but Jesus actually spoke or understood Hebrew,Aramaic,and GREEK

    • @nikmohammadnurhakeembinmdy7173
      @nikmohammadnurhakeembinmdy7173 3 месяца назад +8

      Understood and spoke is different

    • @Luzxin
      @Luzxin 2 месяца назад +8

      him understanding it doesnt mean that he translated to the greek edition. the greek edition was translated by followers of Jesus, not jessus himself, which simplifies that the translation could have been corrupt/misleading.

    • @asifkareem9878
      @asifkareem9878 2 месяца назад +5

      Like a person in English , but know little bit Hindi, does it mean the message can the english person and transfer in hindi which bearly knowa

    • @HaitiRestoration9530
      @HaitiRestoration9530 2 месяца назад +4

      You are correct. Jesus was a HEBREW born in the royal family of David of the tribe YEHUDI. Therefore he spoke HEBREW. The Hebrews in that time also spoke and understood Aramaic; remember, these were the ones that are remnants of the ones that were carried into Babylonian captivity therefore, the lingua Franca of that empire was ARAMAIC. Finally, in the setting of the New Testament, Judaea and Samaria were under the ROMAN EMPIRE. Not only that, many of the Gentiles were living AMONG the Hebrews in parts of Judaea and parts of Samaria and thus naturally, they would have had ties to understanding the Roman or Greek languages. Thus, the Hebrews were MULTILINGUAL.

    • @nikmohammadnurhakeembinmdy7173
      @nikmohammadnurhakeembinmdy7173 2 месяца назад

      @@HaitiRestoration9530 majority of scholar agree Jesus spoke Aramaic language not hebrew

  • @Tae96
    @Tae96 4 месяца назад +12

    That young man is not a scholar, but he is so articulate and educated on his religion! Wonderful! The truth stands clear. There is no mental gymnastics about God in Islam. 👏🏼♥️

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад

      What truth in Islam?😂

    • @yasserabouchi3833
      @yasserabouchi3833 4 месяца назад

      ​@blessing21 read Quran and you will now

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад

      @@yasserabouchi3833 I want Muslims to tell me the answer since they say Islam is right path. Do you understand Koran?🥴

    • @yasserabouchi3833
      @yasserabouchi3833 4 месяца назад

      @@blessing21 yes for sure , what you didn't understand , so i will explain for you if God will

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад

      @@yasserabouchi3833 you didn't answer. Do you understand Koran yes? or no? So simple stop running away 😂

  • @AshourMakhmoura-bu2dp
    @AshourMakhmoura-bu2dp Месяц назад +9

    I bet half these muslims didn’t even listen to half of the arguement. You can clearly hear and see Cliffe answered the guy by saying that God limited himself and the Muslim guy kept saying the same thing that cliffe already explained. cliffe answered him and the Muslim guy kept asking the same question and that’s why he said you are not listening to me.

    • @Adin53e
      @Adin53e Месяц назад +1

      Saying that god is able to die if he wants ,contradicts the Definition of god,of being immortal and all wise. One more example would be saying that god could make a Rock that he wouldnt be able to lift, which would not make him god, but if he couldnt make a rock that he couldnt lift,he would also not be god. So it doesnt really make sense.

    • @Real_truthful_Raja
      @Real_truthful_Raja 15 дней назад

      Y are you crying

  • @Realtalkyou08
    @Realtalkyou08 28 дней назад +1

    If you don’t believe in JESUS by faith, God will never be pleased and this will NEVER change.

  • @MoïsePicard-ef8fr
    @MoïsePicard-ef8fr 3 месяца назад +8

    Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic, Greek, Latin and Hebrew, Mr. Muslim Genius.

    • @GeoKing01
      @GeoKing01 3 месяца назад

      Prove this your home made creed.

    • @solha5751
      @solha5751 3 месяца назад

      Are you sure bro? I've never heard of that

    • @GeoKing01
      @GeoKing01 2 месяца назад

      @@solha5751 Its a 2 minute home made creed. Don't waste time on these type of dumbs. How many languages he named literally he himself don't know one of them fully.

    • @timegamerz6512
      @timegamerz6512 2 месяца назад

      New update?

    • @yes-qw6om
      @yes-qw6om Месяц назад +2

      Imagine calling some human a god who only knows 4 languages

  • @asphaltking3452
    @asphaltking3452 5 месяцев назад +38

    can someone pls link me the full debate or the title of the full video

    • @Feisty.Success
      @Feisty.Success 5 месяцев назад +22

      He deleted the video u can’t watch it anymore

    • @zeghuy4082
      @zeghuy4082 5 месяцев назад

      Huh i wonder why​@@Feisty.Success

    • @princevegeta7701
      @princevegeta7701 5 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@Feisty.SuccessI wonder why

    • @aurore_08
      @aurore_08 5 месяцев назад +22

      Don't listen to those trolls
      Video title: « if the other religions speak the truth I’m going to hell”

    • @DominicBandola24
      @DominicBandola24 4 месяца назад

      No He didnt delete it. Now you fools are lying too. Sheesh. Find Jesus ​@Feisty.Success

  • @JohnSmith-it7zy
    @JohnSmith-it7zy 5 месяцев назад +11

    Brothers God sent a successor Muhammad (pbuh) after Jesus Christ (pbuh) when people perverted the Bible and took Jesus as God.
    Jesus as God in flesh, doesn't make sense and it's similar to Hinduism not monotheism. God doesn't have to humble himself. He is All-Powerful and Almighty.

    • @belalalzidy7328
      @belalalzidy7328 4 месяца назад +1

      Brother don't say Jesus Christ, Jesus (AS or peace be upon him) or Isa AS or peace be upon him

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад +2

      If people perverted the Bible and took Jesus as God. Why Allah didn't stop it if All powerful? Common educate yourself Islam is lies 😂😂

    • @JohnSmith-it7zy
      @JohnSmith-it7zy 4 месяца назад +1

      @@blessing21 I hope you know that this world is made of Good and Evil.
      I can ask you why Jesus didn't stop World Wars, but that doesn't make sense.
      Instead He sent Muhammad(pbuh) as the next messenger to guide Humanity to Salvation.

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад

      @@JohnSmith-it7zy why beating around the bush? 🤣. Stop running away answer the question 😂😂 why Allah didn't protected the Bible?(if all powerful as Muslims say)

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад

      @@JohnSmith-it7zy furthermore Allah failed to protect the Bible?😂 but succeeded protected Koran?🤣see Muslims nonsense right there?🥴. Islam dies with lies 😂😂

  • @ReggieMiller-w1f
    @ReggieMiller-w1f 2 месяца назад +1

    The Muslim made a strong point

  • @Bunny0-0-0
    @Bunny0-0-0 4 месяца назад +20

    Christian pastor : you cant show the quran the words of god
    The muslims : ha? Then how about these miracles written in quran
    How could the quran being from thousanda of years tell us how the big bang happend which we discover before few years
    How could the quran from thousands of years know that stars can get created from smoke which we discover few years ago
    How could the quran from thousands of years ago know that every any alive creature is made from a alot of water which we also discover few years ago
    How a the quran from thousands of years ago know that the sun walk so fast and dont move this is a thing humans discover before few years
    How could the quran know that if you fly high your chest Chest tightness which we discover before few years
    How could the quran know The presence of the atmosphere exist from thousands of years
    How could the quran know that earthquake is caused from Mountains thousands years ago
    How could the quran know that mountains move fast
    Which we discover that if like we saw it from high place we will see it move fast
    How could the quran how bees made from start to end thousands years ago
    How could the quran explained to us how humans are made from the start to the end
    How could the quran know all these things these all things a human from thousanda thousands of years ago cant know them so ofc its a god word theres still alot of quran miracle btw

    • @Marcelo.1927
      @Marcelo.1927 4 месяца назад +7

      Bible has thousands of prophecy’s and scientific facts

    • @belalalzidy7328
      @belalalzidy7328 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@Marcelo.1927and many mistakes and contradictions too, which Quran doesn't have

    • @cagegames4755
      @cagegames4755 4 месяца назад +1

      This been debunked even Ali Dawah says it was.

    • @Bunny0-0-0
      @Bunny0-0-0 4 месяца назад

      @@Marcelo.1927 the bible have some prophets miracles like in quran and jesus miracles luke quran only tell me scients miraclrs you have

    • @Bunny0-0-0
      @Bunny0-0-0 4 месяца назад

      @@cagegames4755 what has been debunked ????

  • @SamMoussa-qd3gz
    @SamMoussa-qd3gz 2 месяца назад +24

    I'm speaking as a non-biased observer. i believe Cliff got backed into a corner and had nothing else to say so he quit the argument. Stinks for him.

    • @rayensabandar8392
      @rayensabandar8392 2 месяца назад +2

      I beg the differ. The muslim guy has no point, he just blindly believe that the quran is the word of God, eventhough Christian God exists before the quran. His arguments is that because everyone memorized the quran, that means it’s the word of God

    • @markhenry3794
      @markhenry3794 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@rayensabandar8392 did we watched the same video?
      He said that the Bible was in Aramaic and now the oldest version of Bible we have now is in Greek.
      While Quran was revealed in Arabic and we still have Quran in Arabic and the proof of that is his friend and millions of Muslims who memorized the Quran.
      In short there is no way that you can change the words or anything in Quran while Bible is not even in its original language.

    • @rayensabandar8392
      @rayensabandar8392 2 месяца назад +1

      @@markhenry3794 and then?

    • @villasagittarius3758
      @villasagittarius3758 Месяц назад +1

      That means u cannot win the argument with someone who believe their own beliefs 😊

    • @Steakterysteak
      @Steakterysteak Месяц назад

      Your religious was created by a man who married a 6 year old

  • @adrianoguzman525
    @adrianoguzman525 4 месяца назад +4

    But the Bible was not only passed generation after generation in other languages, but also in its original language. Furthermore, if mahoma transmits the coran orally, it is much easier for it to be modified.

    • @juicyreviews9399
      @juicyreviews9399 2 месяца назад +1

      If it is easier to copy , why can't we see another copy from Quran like the Bible has so many diffrent copies ?

    • @colorsstones8957
      @colorsstones8957 Месяц назад +1

      @@juicyreviews9399 hafs warsh qaloon..etc there are 37 different quran with different wording what are you talking about

  • @mustafamohammed-qg4nb
    @mustafamohammed-qg4nb Месяц назад +8

    Bro, first of all Muhammad is a prophet and second of all Mohammed is not a god he is a prophet

    • @bowrudder899
      @bowrudder899 26 дней назад +2

      According to the Torah he was a false prophet. See Deuteronomy 13:1-5.

    • @What-md2uy
      @What-md2uy 16 дней назад

      That was Paul​@@bowrudder899

    • @bowrudder899
      @bowrudder899 16 дней назад

      @@What-md2uy Paul did not write the Torah. You're about 1,500 years off.

    • @DeathMorethanlife
      @DeathMorethanlife 11 дней назад

      @@bowrudder899 Muhammad saw never said "worship other gods" he just Said worship the creator of Moses Jesus Adam Abraham Noah and etc peace be upon them all

    • @bowrudder899
      @bowrudder899 11 дней назад

      @@DeathMorethanlife Mohammed encouraged people to worship the god of his pagan father, the "Allah" of the Kaaba. He did NOT point people to YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, etc. That is what marked him as a false prophet. See Deuteronomy 13:1-5 for the details. God gave it as a test.

  • @Hvmoudi
    @Hvmoudi 4 месяца назад +30

    Cliff’s argument is so weak. The thing about Prophets is that they receive revelation from God. God was certainly present in the lifetime of Jesus and unless you deny the Prophethood of Muhammad you cannot say you don’t take his view on Jesus. Certainly you cannot even take that as a reason to reject his viewpoint because in order to come to that conclusion you should already have established whether Muhammad was a real Prophet or not. If you cannot prove his Prophethood to be untrue and if the evidence of Him being a Prophet is stronger then the evidence used to prove that the other Prophets where true Prophets you cannot reject his Prophethood. Thereby Muhammad’s word comes above every human beings word because Muhammad never spoke out of himself, it was merely a revelation revealed from God. And just like all of us He himself was ignorant before receiving that revelation. He didn’t believe the things that He believed because He studied, no it was al revealed from God almighty. Cliff likes to talk about evidence so He should look into the evidences of the Prophethood of Muhammad which certainly is far stronger than the evidence He accepts about the divinity of Jesus and if He so choses to reject those evidence then it is purely out of bias. It is hypocrisy at its finest to accept one claim because of certain evidence and reject the other while having stronger evidence.

    • @elroi8325
      @elroi8325 3 месяца назад +4

      You can't compare mojhmad with biblical prophets. He didn't qualify to be a prophet in biblical sense. No connection to the language,land, people or traditions.
      If he started a new revelation from a new god it's totally okay.
      Both religions contradict islamicc views and predates it.

    • @loludead4142
      @loludead4142 3 месяца назад

      This is the problem, judging Islam with Christian mindset while you can't prove that mindset is correct in the first place.​@@elroi8325

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb 3 месяца назад

      The first Bible was written in Greek because of Alexander the Great who forced everyone to speak Greek. Why would I believe a religion that came 500 years after Jesus? Answer that question

    • @BaBaDoo0
      @BaBaDoo0 3 месяца назад +1

      First mohaMad is not a prophet, second Jesus is a god , 3 repent! ✝️😉

    • @weeklyggmagazine1245
      @weeklyggmagazine1245 3 месяца назад

      ​​​@@elroi8325and what's the biblical criteria to be a prophet exactly?
      Arabic is a sister language to Aramaic so the "no connection" is wrong. In fact greek is so far away that's where the connection misses so it's more of a case against you lol.
      Judaism contradicts Christianity and it predates it, so Christianity is false then? And Hinduism predates both so Hinduism is the only true religion then ey? Sound logic right there lol
      And the biggest Irony is that Jews have more in common with muslims than Christianity, so Judaism and Islam contradicts Christianity lol you guys are the odd ones not the other way around.

  • @melissag0448
    @melissag0448 4 месяца назад +18

    Cliffe did the right thing
    Some people just say what they know and not listen to any other proofs or facts
    You can’t win with people who don’t want to listen

    • @ShamweelKhan-vm1zh
      @ShamweelKhan-vm1zh 4 месяца назад +3

      He said it is impossible to prove the word of God.such a man cannot preach.

    • @Ilikearguements
      @Ilikearguements 4 месяца назад

      @@ShamweelKhan-vm1zhindeed if you can’t prove anything then it is a claim, not a fact

    • @ShamweelKhan-vm1zh
      @ShamweelKhan-vm1zh 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Ilikearguements yes and it is useless to preach something that you cannot prove.

    • @wervelstorm
      @wervelstorm 4 месяца назад

      @@ShamweelKhan-vm1zh faith is believing for if u know something you cannot believe in it cuz you know it

  • @user-qy7fe9fb4j
    @user-qy7fe9fb4j 2 месяца назад

    Jesus said unto her, “Touch Me not, for I am not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say unto them, ‘I ascend unto My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”

  • @b0ondockz838
    @b0ondockz838 4 месяца назад +45

    To these points from the Muslim:
    "We believe in Jesus, but we believe he was only a prophet"
    "Jesus didnt speak Hebrew or Greek, he spoke Aramaic, therefore the bible is somehow unreliable"
    "the Quran was written in Arabic and is unchanged therefore its more reliable"
    News flash: Jesus didn't speak Arabic either. So, how the hell does that make the Islamic account of Jesus more accurate?

    • @AceDiamaric
      @AceDiamaric 4 месяца назад +6

      Jesus actually spoke or at least understood Greek and Hebrew.

    • @sausagedancer1712
      @sausagedancer1712 4 месяца назад

      Bro the issue was the reliability of the Quran vs the Bible. The language the bible was revealed in was Aramaic not hebrew not greek. Since translations upon translation have happened the reliability of the bible as scripture has deteriorated (to say the least). The language the Quran was revealed in was Arabic. Since it was kept in its original form and that millions upon millions of Muslims have memorised it, the scripture remains pure, unadulterated. This is because any attempt at doing so will be debunked by people who memorise it by heart.

    • @b0ondockz838
      @b0ondockz838 4 месяца назад +8

      @@sausagedancer1712 you said the language the Bible was revealed in was Aramaic. The language the old testament (part of the Bible) was revealed in was Hebrew, not Aramaic. Yes, Jesus would have spoken Aramaic, and the new testament was mostly written in Koine Greek, but that doesn't discount the new testament in the slightest. The bible has been translated into every language as precisely as possible to spread the word of God. Also, every verse of the Bible has been analyzed and expanded on with thorough explanations taking into consideration how the words relate to the original language/text and culture so nothing is missed or misunderstood. Moreover, the Quran itself says to believe the Bible (old and new testaments) and that the word of Allah is incorruptible. For you to say the Bible is not reliable goes against the teachings of Islam.

    • @sausagedancer1712
      @sausagedancer1712 4 месяца назад

      @@b0ondockz838 bruv even the bible scholars say that some parts of the bible, the writers are unknown. And that they are not the words of God but rather are 'inspired from them'. How can something be reliable when we don't even know who wrote down the verses and the different books?
      Also, the Quran affirms the truth of the previous books namely, the Taurat, Injeel and the Zabur in their ORIGINAL FORM. Not the scriptures that the Jews and Christians are using today. Those are simply books which are now tampered with the hands of men. Also, what guarantees that mistranslations do not occur? Some books have differences of ages of individuals (clear contradictions) while other show obvious tampering (such as "God never sleeps" [Psalms 121:4] which is similar to what is in the Quran but in Psalms 78:65, Genesis 2:3 and 2:2, "God does Sleep" or "rest". Confusing and clear cut adulteration of God's words. You may argue that sleep in that context is "different" but it simply shows how neglectful and inattentive God is in the Bible. The Quran attributes not such weakness to God.

    • @dennisteunissen8014
      @dennisteunissen8014 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@b0ondockthez838 the quran tells us to believe in the gospels as given to jesus not the bible dont get it twisted my beloved

  • @urfavblueblack
    @urfavblueblack 3 месяца назад +8

    We need the guy’s ig asap 🙏🏻

  • @mbabilsgaming3087
    @mbabilsgaming3087 4 месяца назад +32

    Broooo debate with mufti menk . Like if you agree

    • @abdullahnadeem1823
      @abdullahnadeem1823 4 месяца назад +2

      Uthman Ibn Farooq would be better

    • @belalalzidy7328
      @belalalzidy7328 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@abdullahnadeem1823a teen revert destroyed him, I can't imagine what any scholar or sheikh would do to him😂😂

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад

      🤣

    • @abdullahnadeem1823
      @abdullahnadeem1823 4 месяца назад

      @@belalalzidy7328 And what video would that be?

    • @belalalzidy7328
      @belalalzidy7328 4 месяца назад

      @@abdullahnadeem1823 the one above💀

  • @nikolaoneill198
    @nikolaoneill198 11 дней назад

    Muslims claim that written text is less accurate, but oral transmission is fully preserved 😱

    • @bounyabk946
      @bounyabk946 10 дней назад

      النص المكتوب دقيق جدا
      ونعم المسلمين هناك نقل شفوي، بعد أن تنزل اي اية على محمد يجتمع كل اهالي القرية ويحفظون الاية ويعلموها لاولادهم وعائلاتهم
      وحاليا يوجد اكثر من 300 مليون حافظ للقرأن كلمة بكلمة وحرف بحرف

  • @ssjiftekhar
    @ssjiftekhar 4 месяца назад +4

    5:12
    Tsk tsk Poor Cliffe
    When he sees he can't debate with a mere revert he doubles down and says how can we say the bible and Quran isn't the word of god 🤣
    To those people who funnily claim Cliffe is so great and knowledgable i see why delusion creates more delusion

    • @polokucoch8112
      @polokucoch8112 Месяц назад

      Mahamed was NOT a prophet:
      allah SPOKE to Adam, Moses, David, and other prophets in the quran, allah EVEN spoke to SATAN, BUT allah NEVER spoke to mahamed.
      mahamed . NEVER did any signs in the quran
      mahamed NEVER did any prophecies in the quran
      mahamed was a SINNER in the quran
      mahamed was not given a name at birth in the quran
      mahamed doesn’t know who his father is in the quran
      lmahamed was DECEIVED by SATAN, WAS BEWITCHED FOR A YEAR
      mahamed making up stories? Show me where the angel identifies himself as “jibreel” in the Quran.
      mahamed was NOT a prophet.

  • @nourytime9804
    @nourytime9804 3 месяца назад +9

    Funny how the most popular video on this channel is about Cliffe losing a debate...

  • @juanvilla6062
    @juanvilla6062 3 месяца назад +7

    The Muslim guy was right so he is the winner

    • @kingrudy7728
      @kingrudy7728 3 месяца назад

      Well 2 Muslims student did not even listen and that why cliffe stop the conversation because they are not listening

    • @dosomethinggreattoday
      @dosomethinggreattoday 15 дней назад

      Right about what

    • @Real_truthful_Raja
      @Real_truthful_Raja 15 дней назад +1

      ​@@kingrudy7728always blah blah blah go watch other debates 😂

    • @kingrudy7728
      @kingrudy7728 15 дней назад

      @@Real_truthful_Raja blah blah blah watch baby kid show

    • @kingrudy7728
      @kingrudy7728 15 дней назад

      🤣🤣😂

  • @Pig343-p5m
    @Pig343-p5m 4 месяца назад +2

    Yall can believe the guy that came 500 years after Jesus Christ saying he doesn’t exist over the guys that actually met Jesus Christ and knew him

    • @Dr.Zoidberg_2914
      @Dr.Zoidberg_2914 4 месяца назад

      While I am a Christian and not a Muslim he never said Jesus didn't exist

    • @Pig343-p5m
      @Pig343-p5m 4 месяца назад

      @@Dr.Zoidberg_2914 I’m not saying he didn’t say that but he’s saying he’s not not god

    • @Dr.Zoidberg_2914
      @Dr.Zoidberg_2914 4 месяца назад

      @@Pig343-p5m Is English a second or third language? As a respectful question not an insult

    • @Pig343-p5m
      @Pig343-p5m 4 месяца назад

      @@Dr.Zoidberg_2914 yeah but it translates

    • @FriedFlakes667
      @FriedFlakes667 3 месяца назад

      He believe Allah who was actually all knowing unlike Christ (Mathew 24:36). We learn about Jesus from the all knowing. But your version of Jesus did not even know his own hour. That’s like me not knowing my dentist appointment date, but my dad does.

  • @FTen2K5
    @FTen2K5 2 месяца назад +12

    Trinity isn’t biblical.

    • @flyys7227
      @flyys7227 20 дней назад +1

      Explain to me why it isn’t biblical

    • @kamehouse2511
      @kamehouse2511 13 дней назад

      @@flyys7227 because it's a concept created in the 2nd and 3rd century AD, by the church. You will never find any time the word trinity in the Bible. Neither that God is 3 in 1.

    • @thedude9024
      @thedude9024 День назад

      Isiah 48 ​@@kamehouse2511

  • @Fxnylen
    @Fxnylen 3 месяца назад +9

    in conclusion he didnt even let them finish what they had to say and just responded behind their backs the question he couldnt say infront of them because he knows they will respond to it?? Shouldn't you finish the topic to the end to show christians that you are superior or do u just finish the topic to the end to the people that doesnt have enough knowledge to answer your questions? its wild

    • @brianrosas9363
      @brianrosas9363 2 месяца назад

      Kid asks question
      >cliffe answers
      >Kid doesnt understand
      >asks same question
      > Cliffe answers
      >kid asks 2 more times
      ›Cliffe gets tired, tells him theres no point debating No humble

    • @Real_truthful_Raja
      @Real_truthful_Raja 15 дней назад

      ​@@brianrosas9363did you throw you brain int the toilet or your brain became poop😂

    • @brianrosas9363
      @brianrosas9363 15 дней назад

      @@Real_truthful_Raja bro I know you didn’t understand half the video

  • @user-gq4rv8ke9p
    @user-gq4rv8ke9p 2 месяца назад +5

    Islam is the righteous Religion❤

  • @maitheschelfhout4882
    @maitheschelfhout4882 5 дней назад

    As a son Im not my father, but Im his flesh. So Im the son of God. That was why Jesus talked about his father.

  • @wycliffew.woduor1748
    @wycliffew.woduor1748 3 месяца назад +4

    We also learn that Jesus warned against false prophets who would come after him.

  • @slimessiful
    @slimessiful 2 месяца назад +4

    "It is not the eyes that are blind, but the heart" is a paraphrase of a verse from the Quran, specifically Surah Al-Hajj (22:46), This statement means that it is not physical blindness that prevents a person from seeing the truth, but rather a lack of understanding or a closed mind.

    • @Judy-zc2hw
      @Judy-zc2hw Месяц назад

      @@slimessiful @GregMaxwell-rw1gl
      @rationalchristianfaith Listed below are
      Just a few of the many Similarities between what is in the Bible and what is written about in
      The Life of Muhammad by Mohammad Hussein Heikal
      (LOM MHH)
      Note: Muhummad was born 562 AD in Mecca where 5 faiths were practiced: Zoroism, Paganism, Judaism Christianity, and one other
      Abram asked God do not destroy the city of Sodom & Gomorrah if he could find 50 righteous men- which dropped to " 40, 30, 20, 10". Genesis 18: 16
      Muhummad Ascended to Heaven went to seek Samuel about asking God if he would minimize the Prayers from "50 times a day to 40, 30, 20, 10, to 5 times. (LOM MHH)
      Saul sought a Witch to contact Samuel
      2 Samuel 1:28
      God told Abram to sacrifice
      Isaac Gen 22.
      Allah tells Abram to
      Sacrifice Ishmael
      (LOM MHH)
      God said Take off your sandals you're standing on Holy Ground Exodus 3:5
      Allah to Muhammad take of your Shoes your standing on Holy Ground
      (LOM MHH)
      Gideon wins a war against thousands with 300 Men
      Judges 7 :7
      Muhammad won a battle against a thousand with 311 men. (LOM MHH)
      Joshua's men went around Jericho seven Times on the seventh day when the Walls fell
      Joshua 6:4-5
      Muslims go around Haja or Kabal (?) counter clockwise 7 times
      When Zachariah named his son John relative said no one in our family has been given that name before
      Luke 1:61
      When Muhammad was born (562 AD)
      Family said no one in our family has been given that name
      During Jesus's birth an Angel appeared and said to Joseph and Mary do not be afraid for Behold I bring you “Good Tidings of Great Joy which will be to all people.
      Luke 2:10
      When Muhammad was born angels appeared and said we bring you good tidings of Great Joy
      (LOM MHH)
      As for my people, their oppressors have stripped them, and "Women Rule over them". O my people, they that call thee blessed, the same deceive thee, and destroy the way of thy steps. Isaiah 13:3
      Women will Rule (LOM MHH)
      Mark of Beast is 666
      Revelation 13
      (LOM MHH)
      Mark of Beast is 999
      (LOM MHH)
      Below is scripture from 2 Timothy 3 KJV written hundreds of years ago, but translated into English between late 1500 and early 1600:
      ... "in the last days perilous times shall come.
      2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
      Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
      4 Traitors, heady, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
      5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
      6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with "divers lusts'
      7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
      2 Timothy 3 1-7

  • @fearlesscaper
    @fearlesscaper 5 месяцев назад +17

    Quran contradicts the teachings of Jesus.

    • @duncankabitto3396
      @duncankabitto3396 5 месяцев назад +6

      How does the quran contradict the teachings of jesus, jesus taught us to worship god and god alone. How is that a contradictions?

    • @Velaldo-nw7ve
      @Velaldo-nw7ve 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@duncankabitto3396 the Koran calls jesus the messiah, but yet no muslims no why Allah calls him that. 😅

    • @duncankabitto3396
      @duncankabitto3396 4 месяца назад +2

      @Velaldo-nw7ve yes Muslims do call him that so I'm not sure what your talking about

    • @fearlesscaper
      @fearlesscaper 4 месяца назад

      @@duncankabitto3396 wow he just said

    • @duncankabitto3396
      @duncankabitto3396 4 месяца назад +1

      @fearlesscaper in the quran he is called that so we believe he is that, so I'm not sure as to what point your trying to make

  • @ラザクン
    @ラザクン 13 дней назад

    Muslim the true religion, hope everyone will open their heart.

  • @adamherman460
    @adamherman460 4 месяца назад +13

    Jesus lived 500 before Muhammad and muslims clame that he was muslim

    • @Sadclown2
      @Sadclown2 4 месяца назад +15

      Islam means that all prophets believe in God. Islam means belief in God, so we say that all prophets are Muslims

    • @Sadclown2
      @Sadclown2 4 месяца назад +3

      Noah, Abraham, Jacob, the tribes, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad all had Islam as their religion, which is the worship of God, submission to Him, and devotion to Him, even if their laws varied. “And when I revealed to the disciples that they believe in Me and in My Messenger, they said, ‘We believe,’ and I bear witness that we are Muslims.” Surah Al-Ma’idah 111.

    • @AlphaGuardWZ
      @AlphaGuardWZ 4 месяца назад +3

      Muslim is a Human who submit his Self to God thats what Muslim means ez

    • @adamherman460
      @adamherman460 4 месяца назад

      @@AlphaGuardWZ listen your jesus is not our jesus , jesus the real god always was always will be

    • @ismailalmaghriby3714
      @ismailalmaghriby3714 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@adamherman460Pagan worshipper worship a man is idolatry

  • @Jesus.saves0174
    @Jesus.saves0174 5 месяцев назад +13

    Where did cliffe get destroyed l?

    • @baddmeeloo
      @baddmeeloo 4 месяца назад +9

      The moment he decides to shut the kids down and not wanting to listen. He was losing his cool and aggressive.

    • @cagegames4755
      @cagegames4755 4 месяца назад +7

      @@baddmeeloo No he wasn't losing his cool. The kid's were making bad points and weren't going to change their opinion even if he debunked them for 2 hours straight. Since they won't change there mind he ended the discussion, he isn't there to talk to just people he has to move on and answer everyone elses questions.

    • @blessing21
      @blessing21 4 месяца назад +3

      The kids didn't listen. So what can you do still argue with fools?

    • @baddmeeloo
      @baddmeeloo 4 месяца назад +1

      @@blessing21 Kids were smart and calm. They want a peaceful conversation but instead Cliffe ego was so big he knew he had to shut them down cos he'll have no chance. They haven't even finished yet. Remember one of the kids, memorise the Quran cover to cover, he came prepared. Whilst Cliffe I doubt he memorised the bible cover to cover.

    • @baddmeeloo
      @baddmeeloo 4 месяца назад +1

      @@cagegames4755 It's called running away cos he was in denial.

  • @My_Cal
    @My_Cal 5 месяцев назад +23

    Guys the muslim got it wrong. Jesus did Not say that "i have no power" and that "god has all the power" David said that in Psalms 62:11. So its unfortunate cliff didnt mention it☹️

    • @rafit5714
      @rafit5714 5 месяцев назад +6

      if Jesus is God how come he don't know the final hour ( mark 13:32)" but of that day and hour no one knows not even the angels in heaven nor son but only the father"

    • @momentsformoms9467
      @momentsformoms9467 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@rafit5714because God is patient and merciful. He can be ready and then decide to wait it out longer for some righteous peoples sake. Same with the flood of Noah,God was going to wipe them all out but found righteousness in Noah and his family. God had him build the ark and gave people 120 years to repent while it was being built.
      He waited for Lot & his family to leave the city before turning the people into pillars of salt.
      He is patient but people forget we are only humans as long as we are on Earth. Afterlife we are souls and go to either of two places,Heaven or Hell. Too many of our generations are turning their backs on him and teaching their kids to do the same. He’s coming soon,but is still having mercy on those who aren’t ready but are faithful in trying.

    • @Rayanfzg
      @Rayanfzg 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@momentsformoms9467 Stop yapping, u did not explain why jesus didnt know the time but the father did

    • @Noidecent
      @Noidecent 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@rafit5714 because Jesus limited his power and his knowledge god can limit his power he limited his power in giving us a free will this is a weak argument without lies Islam dies bud

    • @momentsformoms9467
      @momentsformoms9467 5 месяцев назад

      @@Rayanfzg because He hasn’t decided like I said.

  • @youssefelsayed8025
    @youssefelsayed8025 25 дней назад +2

    Alhamdllah for islam❤

  • @MRKephyr
    @MRKephyr 4 месяца назад +8

    Bro got mad that he was getting folded by a student 😭

    • @dereck8759
      @dereck8759 3 месяца назад +1

      Cliffe said something and he just ingnored it and started saying that’s not true because we believe that the quaran is the word of God and because of that the Bible isn’t true that’s all he was saying

    • @Steakterysteak
      @Steakterysteak Месяц назад

      Your religious was created by a man who married a 6 year old

    • @Real_truthful_Raja
      @Real_truthful_Raja 15 дней назад

      ​@@dereck8759wohh baby y are you crying want some empathy sympathy or condolence 😂 tell me what you want

    • @Real_truthful_Raja
      @Real_truthful_Raja 15 дней назад

      ​Yes bible is corrupt just humble yourself and talk to me

    • @Aaron-bq2id
      @Aaron-bq2id 6 дней назад

      ​@@Real_truthful_Raja What religion are u?

  • @yessinalg
    @yessinalg 5 месяцев назад +15

    😂😂😂😂you dont listen to me, they listen. You just don't know how to answer 😅😅😅

  • @Rennanxd19
    @Rennanxd19 4 месяца назад +8

    Poor kid too stuck in the dahwa script he doesn’t even realize his own hypocrisy. If you can’t trust the Bible to tell you about Jesus because it’s written in Greek when he spoke Aramaic then you can’t trust the Quran to tell you about Jesus either because it’s written in Arabic when he spoke Aramaic.

    • @NbaYoungboy-bq4by
      @NbaYoungboy-bq4by 4 месяца назад +2

      well said

    • @khanumar1105
      @khanumar1105 4 месяца назад +2

      But the quraan is not saying it's thee word of Jesus so why do uhh need it in Aramic an author of a book would write the book with the help of the language that he knew and therefore Allah send the verses of the quraan in Arabic and in the quraan there is the life of Jesus i

    • @Velaldo-nw7ve
      @Velaldo-nw7ve 4 месяца назад

      Haha that is a good one

    • @user-id5xf3qm3k
      @user-id5xf3qm3k 4 месяца назад

      The real jewish name of Jesus is "Yeshua".
      The name Jesus, was given to Yeshua to shame him as a hung on cross criminal, by the Romans. (Greek and Latin were spoken)
      * Bible was first translated in Greek, Latin and Hebrew, as well, as written from old sea scrolls.
      The Romans, would have
      pronounced Jesus with the sound of HEI.
      In Greek Ἰησοῦς /in Latin Iesus Iēsoûs) or Latin. Jesus is pronounced "HEI-soos".
      The HEI Hebrew symbol(17) means Truth, and pronounced same. Hei-sus/Je-sus/iou-sus
      SON of Truth in name.💯
      Jesus Christ is pronounced "HEI sus.. kris to".
      Which obviously means Truth cruxificido/cruxified, by observation and truly listening.
      Each time Chrixtian, is said it verifies the krux/cross.
      Ask yourself why has this fact been hidden?
      The Christian God is named "Yod HEI Vav HEI" in the time of Moses written short "17" HEI.
      Now notrice the first letters, YHVH, which many now say, "Yewah".
      The name of our Father. Which means Truth.
      ((Look carefully, listen to the sound..
      Yewshua-son/yewah-father...Even HEI-sus/Jesus, carries his father name.
      Crix-tian is crosss..facts are facts!!

    • @nihalmuhamed147
      @nihalmuhamed147 4 месяца назад +1

      u called him a kid bro😂 imagine a kid making more sense than an old guy like cliff

  • @devikapabarekar2791
    @devikapabarekar2791 Месяц назад

    Jesus also said that " I and the Father are one" -John 10:30
    God bless you brother n may God reveal himself on you.

  • @lessthansion
    @lessthansion 4 месяца назад +5

    Bro thinks memorizing a book mean its the divine word of God 💀

    • @mmrr3757
      @mmrr3757 4 месяца назад +2

      At least the quran is not filled with contradictions like the bible

    • @Aajd549
      @Aajd549 4 месяца назад +1

      quran has no contradictions AND has a lot of "PREDICTIONS" that are correct. i wonder if they are "PREDICTIONS" or its just god letting us know so we actually know islam is the real religion

    • @Real_truthful_Raja
      @Real_truthful_Raja 15 дней назад

      Amd you think contradicted book is word of god even authors are unknown 😂 poor poeple

  • @Guccimanesfriend
    @Guccimanesfriend 2 месяца назад +3

    Where did that 9/11 comment come from? Totally unnecessary.

    • @user-52548
      @user-52548 2 месяца назад +2

      exactly that was completely stereotypical and he’s basically saying all muslims are bad because of 1 persons actions he just had nothing to say

    • @Amigofix
      @Amigofix 23 дня назад

      True trying to divided us up with 9/11 god damn Americans. I put my faith in Mohammad more than Jesus false prophet.

    • @pieiskool7725
      @pieiskool7725 21 день назад

      ⁠@@user-52548he is in no way saying that all Muslims are bad, in fact he’s telling people not to give up on learning about the Quran because of the actions that a FEW people have committed. Learn to actually listen to what he’s saying before spewing out bs

    • @user-52548
      @user-52548 21 день назад

      @@pieiskool7725 bro what you talking about you make no sense

    • @pieiskool7725
      @pieiskool7725 21 день назад

      @@user-52548 what cliff is basically saying is to not disregard the teachings of the Quran simply because of what a few followers of the Qurans religion have done. Simple enough for you?

  • @johnm6379
    @johnm6379 2 месяца назад +4

    6:18 after this time i do not want to watch anymore😂😂😂

  • @marcusorwhatever
    @marcusorwhatever 24 дня назад

    Given the uncertainty about authorship, it’s challenging to say with confidence whether Peter and James personally believed or expressed the views attributed to them in these texts. The New Testament writings reflect the beliefs of early Christian communities, but whether these communities accurately preserved the apostles’ original teachings or adapted them to fit evolving theological positions remains an open question.

  • @magyartiktokosok8267
    @magyartiktokosok8267 4 месяца назад +5

    I do not see that Cliffe got humbled. However, both side very respectfull and smart. Love to them

    • @Aajd549
      @Aajd549 4 месяца назад +1

      i do believe that he got humbled, though, both sides were respectful. cliffe was REALLY mad though.

    • @magyartiktokosok8267
      @magyartiktokosok8267 4 месяца назад

      @@Aajd549 Yeah self control isnt so easy. But he still has better self control than most of us.

  • @love4marv
    @love4marv 3 месяца назад +5

    I love his point about mass transmission, which literally disproves his entire argument. The Christians in the land have always seen Jesus as God and started the church that we have today, when Muhammad came with his false teachings they rebuked it and didn't see him as a true prophet. [ Galatians 1:8 ] If hundreds of thousands of people believed Jesus and his followers way before Muhammad and his.. which one is true? Also, the Muslims brings up that Jesus said the "Father is greater than I" and that we believe that Jesus claims equivalency with the Father. This is only partially true, the fact that Jesus claims to be God, and saying the/his father is greater than him [ John 5:18 ] strengthens our argument because this is exactly what the trinity teaches -> Jesus is NOT the Father, but is still God. Making him a person in the Triune Godhead. This revert unknowingly just proved the Trinity 😎. Jesus never denied worship [ Matthew 14:33 ] , he was even being worshipped as a child [ Matthew 2:11 ]. I'd also like to mention how horribly convenient it is that the 'Injeel' given to Jesus Christ wasn't properly preserved while the Bible with eyewitnesses still exists.. weird. Lastly, the muslim mentions that Jesus didn't speak Greek... Where did you get that from? Jesus' disciples spoke greek but HE himself didn't? This is pure stupidity, Greek was a dominant language in 1st Century CE Roman Empire so yes, Jesus, a man from Judaea did speak Aramaic but it's almost certain that he also spoke Greek as a 2nd or 3rd language. God bless❤.

  • @ssefe3271
    @ssefe3271 3 месяца назад +4

    2:09 RACISM

    • @phamtom27070
      @phamtom27070 3 месяца назад +1

      How?

    • @ssefe3271
      @ssefe3271 3 месяца назад +1

      @@phamtom27070he referred to 9/11

    • @phamtom27070
      @phamtom27070 3 месяца назад

      @@ssefe3271 That's not enough reason, I think you need to say he needs to claim that Muslims are the cause of 9/11, which Muslims aren't even a race. And he said he is not taking the Quran beliefs from the people who did 9/1, but from the more intellectual and nice Muslims, I think.

    • @ssefe3271
      @ssefe3271 3 месяца назад +1

      @@phamtom27070 he referred to Muhammad S.A.W as the guy who flew a plane into the world trade centre

    • @phamtom27070
      @phamtom27070 3 месяца назад

      @@ssefe3271 No, he said if you believe the people who flew the plane into the WTC as examples of Mohammed or Islam, then you are wrong, but if you read the Quran, then you have better time understanding Mohammed.

  • @nijaydosslin4720
    @nijaydosslin4720 4 месяца назад +1

    If there is no forgiveness and love in Christianity, for someone telling Jesus is a prophet would be killed for blasphemy