I have been looking a long, long time for information like this. Finally! Don't teach me what to do, teach me what to feel and when to feel it! Thank you sir. This is pure gold.
Do you actively create the right hand extension? Do you actively release the hands through impact? Seems like that would require a lot of timing! I have been shanking, especially driver and longer clubs. Thank you grand love your work
70yr old guy here getting back into golf since my 40's. I've struggling with my old man swing. I've been watching many of your vids and this one turned on my lightbulb. I no longer feel I've lost my swing bur rather found a better proper swing. For me it was just a couple subtle moves or feels that I got from this vid that pulled it back together. Tried it on a course and I damn near cried as I was about to give the game up. Cant thank ya enough.
@@howardclegg6497 oh man! You just made our day!! So so happy that you’re hitting it nice and feeling good out there! Please keep us posted and let us know how we can help you!
I'm a fairly new follower so I haven't seen much of your videos but you blew me away with every single one I did watch. Very impressive! You should easily have a 1M+ followers!!
@@elitegolfschools You deserve it!❤️ And while I'm here and since you asked.. I've tried it today, the tempo felt really good but I already suffered from a steep shaft in the downswing and this made it even worse. I know it's hard to judge a swing without seeing it but any idea how that correlates with eachother? I'm a scratch/handicap 1 player by the way if it helps to know. My guess is that the right shoulder is internal rotating too much and that the right pec isn't stretched at all/not enough. Could that be it?
@@erikk4555 take a look at our stop slicing driver video. Even though the title is a little interesting, it speaks to alpha force and angular force and how they correlate to one another. Take a look and let us know if you have any follow up q’s!
Seriously one of the best descriptions I’ve ever heard on the load and unload phases of the swing. 99% of right handed golfers load the left arm incorrectly in the backswing. Incredible/impactful information explained so simple! Thanks for the video.
Gained significant yardage and accuracy when I understood this. All this time I was unconsciously adducting the lead arm way too early in the back swing, causing me to constantly cast the club on the down swing. Just understanding when the arms start folding and loading was a massive breakthrough and I can't thank you guys enough 👍👍
It is awesome how TJ asks the questions almost like he doesnt know the answer. So many instructional videos make assumptive jumps that the viewer knows what is really being demonstrated This makes your content so much more effective than anything else out there. Can't thank you enough.
You guys are seriously transforming my swing, I needed this so much. Been stuck around 4/5/6 handicap for a while and really trying to overthink better techniques but they tend to stop a natural flow of energy, this increases that energy and slots me in nicely - thanks 🙏
I do not have the words to express how incredible these guys are as teachers of the golf swing. 1:43 - Understanding this is the magic that makes the rest of the video make sense to me. Finally I am starting to understand how that loaded spiral facial line of the upper left torso happens during transition as you drop and the arms are still going the other direction. I have never understood this at all and now I'm just scratching the surface. Time to practice baby!
Nice. I'm a slider + caster. Always have been. Holding at a 10 index but can't break below that. Determined to fix this and I like what I'm hearing on your site so far: it's jiving with my own recent discoveries, none of which is about positions and 'cheap tricks'. Just basics. Prior to landing here on this and another video of yours I've seen progress by feeling (just a feel) like I stay centered over a spot (club-dependent) going back and all the way through the ball. Seems to cause the body to do 'good things'. Or at least better things. Took a couple of weeks to get used to it but again the brain is adjusting fairly well. When your source of power changes from, in my case, essentially, using the arms while moving the body at the target to something more, I guess, torque related, it's tuff to dig a new groove in the brain - needle keeps wanting to jump back into the old, very worn, and deep groove. I've always wondered about my natural habit of getting the club too far behind me/wrapped around me - but couldn't find a fix: your concept of keeping the left 'facia' loose to the top is a new one and makes sense. And it seems to work. It all crumbles if I move off the ball but... Another video of yours you use the 'calm' word; this confirmed a recent ah-ha moment too - by having a calm feeling up to and _into_ transition I'm not 'blowing through' transition. Less what I call "kindergarten golf": lot of pushing/pulling and shoving. Using this loose facia [left side] feel I'm seeing clubhead speeds, impact positions, and trajectories I've never seen before. Video bares this out. As as a no-talent, senior citizen I believe I can, now, break that 10-Index barrier (I have a decent short game): - Up to a month or so ago, given a 150 yard shot, my 7-iron would start talking to me "...hit me, hit me - you know you can't get there with less...". Now it's the 8 and on the range, if I "stay centered", "calm", and loosen up that left 'facia' going back it's a 9-iron. Just not confident yet to try it in the wild. As another commenter mentioned: telling me what to feel and what my intention(s) should be is more helpful.
This is awesome! A nice side effect of this kind of backswing is that you can stop worrying about the plane. It takes care of itself. I found it helpful to start some practice swings by moving the club head to the left (as a right handed player) to get the pendulum going. A word of caution though: it can be very tempting to kick-start the hit phase earlier and earlier (as the club floats up), rather than letting it floatingly drop a bit before hitting. This creates great consistency and power but puts a terrible shock-like strain on the back part of the left shoulder muscles (teres major, etc). Injury prone. Let the club float before hitting to avoid injuries. Thanks guys, great video!
This toss of the club, transitioning sooner, basically loading at the appropriate time is the next step for me. When done properly it's such a smooth effortless feeling. My tendency is slow backswing and step on the gas from the "top". Too many freezer drills lol
Riley, I think you’ve cracked the code with input from Milo, Luke, and others. Well done! Love the gradual loading (stretching) phase idea in preparation for an efficient and explosive unloading (shortening) phase starting at p5. A couple technical questions: doesn’t the lead upper spiral shorten to p5 (to bring the lead side ribs closer together and spread the trail side ribs farther apart) during lead side t-spine bending, and which in turn stretches the trail side upper spiral in the loading phase? If so, isn’t it the stretched trail side upper spiral that shortens to facilitate trail side t-spine bending after p5 (to bring the trail side ribs closer and lead side ribs farther apart) during the unloading phase? Regardless, excellent presentation!
love your easy to understand and follow discussion of the spiral. This morning, I try them out , playing only 4 holes in the rain. I made 2 pars. Specifically, the drives went straight on 3 holes , 1 drive ball went high . Then the approaching shots went straight as well . Interestingly, I try the feeling with the putting. The ball had lots of energy and stayed straight. Thank you
Great video and explanations. When he hit a shank in that one video, what do you think was the cause of that? I have a tendency to shank when I’m drag my arms across the ball and not release. Does this style promote more shanks if not done correctly?
@@elitegolfschools try this out today with my little launch monitor. Wow managed to find 6mph in clubhead speed and ball speed. 6 iron 88-92 mph clubhead, 122-125 ball speed. Can’t wait to work on it now and then the transition. Top info fella’s
It’s insane to think it only took 15 years and the emergence of Viktor Hovland for KMs fascia/spine engine theory to come to the surface. You are preaching the truth my man! Keep up the good work
So -I'm at --12:30-- of Vid - And so far I've been waiting to hear what was just demonstrated -- The Unload feels better. I often continue trying to gain width throughP3 and beyond -- When it comes time to come back & thru, I'm Too Tightly wound. And then it Doesn't feel good or natural on downswing - I have to waste energy to fight to stay in form and on plane
This will turn my swing upside down, however I think eventually for the better! I've never seen anything like this when it comes to learning the swing. Maybe because I golf around 84 to 88. It looks to be very in depth.
This resonated with me quite a bit! 👍🏻 Video suggestion- would like to hear how you guys perceive and feel what’s going on in that long transition from p2-p5. I have gone through phases where I’m getting much more distance from exactly the feels in this video but, due to the passive float, it’s hard to feel anything, because when it works it’s almost like you fee nothing at all. So I’was wondering what cues you feel during the long transition even if they’re awareness rather than something you’re consciously doing. In a nutshell- I’ll hit it like a boss for a week doing this but then the same feeling turns into shank city. It could be a bit like what happened to you in the video but I can’t recover like you can. So what you perceive during that transition would be interesting to know.
@@elitegolfschools Yes, this. FWIW, it has helped me (see my other, somewhat verbose, post) to just _not_ move off the ball from the takeaway all the way through the transition. Why this is helping I can only speculate: It forces me to be 'calm' through to ~P5 because if I don't then, I guess, my brain reacts [poorly]. The hips start to slide; then the arms go [early]; etc. Ick.
Love it, you just explained the feeling I have when I'm stripping it. When I am hitting the ball really well I feel like I have all day in the back swing. Subscribed.
Well, I thought this was going to be a bunch of hooey when I saw the title. I was very wrong. After a short range session focused on these ideas I now think this is the magic sauce that stops us from pushing our way through impact and makes our swing durable. Thank you for sharing all your insights.
Guys, Love your videos. Have been an early extender and roller for years. Finally starting to square club face consistently with shorter clubs. Having issue with driver trying to keeping trail side arm bent. can you do a video that addresses the driver . Also is there anything set up wise that should be done differently because we are hitting up on it? Thank you keep the great content coming. Told all my playing buddies about the channel
Question about the unloading of the left spiral line through impact (for righties). During the unload, as the chest expands, will the right arm adduct? Am I correct in surmising there’s no corresponding “no load” phase on the target side of the ball? I’m coming from a mental picture where past P8 in extension both upper arms disconnect from the chest, and I’m realizing my picture doesn’t fit into the pattern you recommend. In a nutshell, I’m trying to understand what post impact through finish should feel like. Thanks in advance!
I would guess this sway here is in the ribs but in a circular way around the core, but the leg and hip sway moves laterally in space toward the back foot, like you’re traveling toward the back foot. Feel free guys and gals of the channel to correct me.
Term Rib sway worked instantly for me whilst terms rotate and turn cause me problems,maybe its all in the mind. Most pros probably sway but its not obvious,why, cos 95% of Ams position their head forward in the stance as they are looking at the top of the ball with the right eye so they dont miss it! Most Tour pros ive seen on tv,maybe all,set up with their left eye level or behind the ball, so if the Ams sway the head will move a lot to get to a similar position as the pros whose head will hardly move so you dont notice a sway! Dont know if Elite would agree with this sway theory! but i do know that rib sway/loading the spiral line and flinging the arms instantly transformed my ball striking,shot 2 over in last comp,nearly 5 birdies on spin and im 63 yo! so keep going with these guys
Guys when you start can you move your hip left one, to the left to start your left then back to get in line w the backswing? Hard to ask in question form.
Great content! Love it! Question I have: I’m NOT flexible and loading into the spiral position is nearly impossible for me, any tips for someone with a shorter backswing or flexibility is an issue? I like to think that I’m Jon Rahm but I’m clearly not. HA.
Would you call your swing plane a more vertical or horizontal swing plane. Also, which arm is your preferred arm to be on the swing plane or?? Much appreciated.
I’m left handed and during my unload phase I feel pressure and soreness in my lower right side near my hip/love handle area does anyone know what in doing wrong.
If someone was looking for a kettle bell weight to use. What size (ie weight) would be a good weight to use that can work on stretching etc. without causing damage, or hurting?
@@elitegolfschools cool thank you for all the info y’all have given very eye opening!! I’d def like to see more swinging of the golf club in these kinds of videos though! Keep up the killer work! Sincerely the 25+ handicap community!!
I‘d love to hear what Peter Cowen has to say to that. I fully agree with you guys though. By the way: since you are using the spiral line (fascia stretch) for backswing as well now you have turned the body into a spring system in a mechanical sense. This implies an ideal (eigen) frequency and that also implies, that the ground force in the downswing needs to be three times the groundforce in the backswing - that‘s just math. So if you want to hit it further energize the backswing more.
There’s a lot that goes into this. Grip, and your own personal “hinge” mechanism. More wrist extension rather than radial deviation if you’re trying to avoid cupping. Cheers
@@elitegolfschools I guess my issue is that if I'm at the top trying to control the wrist conditions, I am pressuring the wrists and therefore I'm creating tension at the top and I start throwing to the bottom. I guess I can try switching up the grip?
It doesn’t seem like your system has much depth in the backswing because if it did there is a much better chance of loading to early. Is this correct? Some coaches want hand in line with ankles at top so it seems to be a little conflicting with this approach?
Depth is created by a big stretch in the upper spiral line - we like depth, just want it to be created that way, instead of artificially through the lead arm stretching across 👍🏼
Love the concept ......... As a Senior the common mindset is to go to lower shaft weights. Seems to me that this is less of an issue since you are counting on gravity and ground force more. Comment ?????
Question: Are you saying that the pause at the top drill is not a good drill to use? I practiced this with my coach and it taught me a lot about the transition of my swing. At first, I was shanking, thinning and hitting everything fat but now can pure it off the mat. And Tiger said he would spend hundreds of hours doing this for months at a time. Just curious if I should not do this drill anymore?
I think for many people the pause drill helps them accomplish exactly what we talk about in this video (swing, slow, stop to top of backswing). It definitely has utility for certain players at certain stages of their pattern improvement 🙏
@@elitegolfschools Thanks for the reply. Actually, I went to the range and focused did this drill but focused on what you were saying in the video. I made an effort not to feel that pressure at the top of my backswing but to keep the arm loose. Then the feeling of having the arms fall during transition and firing. Love the content!
So basically you want your arms noodle loose at address and let the body turn move the arms up to the top? Did i get that right? And does that method translate to the chipping motion as well?
it’s like a child swing. you let the swing come to a complete stop before adding any down swing pressure. do it too early and the swing loses all tension. a faster backswing will create a more complete or mature backswing.
Driver has always been easy for me as I unknowingly used this method with soft arms whereas irons I have always struggled with. Watching this explains it all so can’t wait to practice this - great video 🏌️👍⛳️
I have been looking a long, long time for information like this. Finally! Don't teach me what to do, teach me what to feel and when to feel it! Thank you sir. This is pure gold.
Yessir! 🙏
Do you actively create the right hand extension? Do you actively release the hands through impact? Seems like that would require a lot of timing! I have been shanking, especially driver and longer clubs. Thank you grand love your work
70yr old guy here getting back into golf since my 40's. I've struggling with my old man swing. I've been watching many of your vids and this one turned on my lightbulb. I no longer feel I've lost my swing bur rather found a better proper swing. For me it was just a couple subtle moves or feels that I got from this vid that pulled it back together. Tried it on a course and I damn near cried as I was about to give the game up. Cant thank ya enough.
@@howardclegg6497 oh man! You just made our day!! So so happy that you’re hitting it nice and feeling good out there! Please keep us posted and let us know how we can help you!
I'm a fairly new follower so I haven't seen much of your videos but you blew me away with every single one I did watch. Very impressive!
You should easily have a 1M+ followers!!
@@erikk4555 super kind of you!!! Glad the information resonates well with you! Please ask any questions may run into!!! 🙏❤️
@@elitegolfschools You deserve it!❤️ And while I'm here and since you asked.. I've tried it today, the tempo felt really good but I already suffered from a steep shaft in the downswing and this made it even worse. I know it's hard to judge a swing without seeing it but any idea how that correlates with eachother? I'm a scratch/handicap 1 player by the way if it helps to know. My guess is that the right shoulder is internal rotating too much and that the right pec isn't stretched at all/not enough. Could that be it?
@@erikk4555 take a look at our stop slicing driver video. Even though the title is a little interesting, it speaks to alpha force and angular force and how they correlate to one another. Take a look and let us know if you have any follow up q’s!
Among all the explanations by different coaches about transitional phase your are the best.
Thank you so much 🙏
Seriously one of the best descriptions I’ve ever heard on the load and unload phases of the swing. 99% of right handed golfers load the left arm incorrectly in the backswing. Incredible/impactful information explained so simple! Thanks for the video.
Appreciate it man!
Gained significant yardage and accuracy when I understood this. All this time I was unconsciously adducting the lead arm way too early in the back swing, causing me to constantly cast the club on the down swing. Just understanding when the arms start folding and loading was a massive breakthrough and I can't thank you guys enough 👍👍
Let’s go bro!! Gains!
It is awesome how TJ asks the questions almost like he doesnt know the answer. So many instructional videos make assumptive jumps that the viewer knows what is really being demonstrated This makes your content so much more effective than anything else out there. Can't thank you enough.
Thank you so much for the kind words! Super fun making these videos. Glad they can be helpful!
You guys are seriously transforming my swing, I needed this so much. Been stuck around 4/5/6 handicap for a while and really trying to overthink better techniques but they tend to stop a natural flow of energy, this increases that energy and slots me in nicely - thanks 🙏
Great body load tips
Glad you think so!
THIS IS THE GOLF SWING...AWESOME LESSON...subscribed!
You’re awesome 🙏
I do not have the words to express how incredible these guys are as teachers of the golf swing.
1:43 - Understanding this is the magic that makes the rest of the video make sense to me. Finally I am starting to understand how that loaded spiral facial line of the upper left torso happens during transition as you drop and the arms are still going the other direction. I have never understood this at all and now I'm just scratching the surface. Time to practice baby!
Let’s gooooo! Keep us posted please!
Wow that’s an eye opener, I’ve never thought of a swing as load phases. Brilliant. I’m following for more
Thanks bro! We’ll try and continue to deliver!
Holy shit. This is the exact video I've been looking for!
@@omeboy487 let’s gooo! So exciting!!
Nice. I'm a slider + caster. Always have been. Holding at a 10 index but can't break below that. Determined to fix this and I like what I'm hearing on your site so far: it's jiving with my own recent discoveries, none of which is about positions and 'cheap tricks'. Just basics.
Prior to landing here on this and another video of yours I've seen progress by feeling (just a feel) like I stay centered over a spot (club-dependent) going back and all the way through the ball. Seems to cause the body to do 'good things'. Or at least better things. Took a couple of weeks to get used to it but again the brain is adjusting fairly well.
When your source of power changes from, in my case, essentially, using the arms while moving the body at the target to something more, I guess, torque related, it's tuff to dig a new groove in the brain - needle keeps wanting to jump back into the old, very worn, and deep groove.
I've always wondered about my natural habit of getting the club too far behind me/wrapped around me - but couldn't find a fix: your concept of keeping the left 'facia' loose to the top is a new one and makes sense. And it seems to work. It all crumbles if I move off the ball but...
Another video of yours you use the 'calm' word; this confirmed a recent ah-ha moment too - by having a calm feeling up to and _into_ transition I'm not 'blowing through' transition. Less what I call "kindergarten golf": lot of pushing/pulling and shoving.
Using this loose facia [left side] feel I'm seeing clubhead speeds, impact positions, and trajectories I've never seen before. Video bares this out.
As as a no-talent, senior citizen I believe I can, now, break that 10-Index barrier (I have a decent short game):
- Up to a month or so ago, given a 150 yard shot, my 7-iron would start talking to me "...hit me, hit me - you know you can't get there with less...". Now it's the 8 and on the range, if I "stay centered", "calm", and loosen up that left 'facia' going back it's a 9-iron. Just not confident yet to try it in the wild.
As another commenter mentioned: telling me what to feel and what my intention(s) should be is more helpful.
Definitely need to see the entire map to improve these areas. Where are you moving the club in stance and how does your body support that….
This is awesome! A nice side effect of this kind of backswing is that you can stop worrying about the plane. It takes care of itself. I found it helpful to start some practice swings by moving the club head to the left (as a right handed player) to get the pendulum going.
A word of caution though: it can be very tempting to kick-start the hit phase earlier and earlier (as the club floats up), rather than letting it floatingly drop a bit before hitting. This creates great consistency and power but puts a terrible shock-like strain on the back part of the left shoulder muscles (teres major, etc). Injury prone. Let the club float before hitting to avoid injuries.
Thanks guys, great video!
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I like the swing thought "chill.. load .. unload" at the end. Thank you for your awesome insight of dynamic golf swing.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
this is so good. thanks! i feel like this is the glue that puts all the "mechanics" together. bravo!
Thanks so much man!
This is gold
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Your mom is gold
This toss of the club, transitioning sooner, basically loading at the appropriate time is the next step for me. When done properly it's such a smooth effortless feeling. My tendency is slow backswing and step on the gas from the "top". Too many freezer drills lol
Many people in the same boat! Keep working! 💪🏼
Riley, I think you’ve cracked the code with input from Milo, Luke, and others. Well done! Love the gradual loading (stretching) phase idea in preparation for an efficient and explosive unloading (shortening) phase starting at p5. A couple technical questions: doesn’t the lead upper spiral shorten to p5 (to bring the lead side ribs closer together and spread the trail side ribs farther apart) during lead side t-spine bending, and which in turn stretches the trail side upper spiral in the loading phase? If so, isn’t it the stretched trail side upper spiral that shortens to facilitate trail side t-spine bending after p5 (to bring the trail side ribs closer and lead side ribs farther apart) during the unloading phase? Regardless, excellent presentation!
Sounds like a great description to me man! Good stuff!
@7:43 is such a good visual explanation of the how to abduct lead arm across the chest. Brilliant.
Thanks man!!
This is a magnificent video. “Chill - Load - Unload”. Brilliant.
Thank you so much 🙏
love your easy to understand and follow discussion of the spiral. This morning, I try them out , playing only 4 holes in the rain. I made 2 pars. Specifically, the drives went straight on 3 holes , 1 drive ball went high . Then the approaching shots went straight as well .
Interestingly, I try the feeling with the putting. The ball had lots of energy and stayed straight.
Thank you
Sweet dude!! Glad it’s helping!
Another great video, certain things are really starting to click! Thank you
So glad to hear it!
really love this, have been trying to work on this for some weeks, its much harder than it seems - for someeone who who is super snatchy from the top
Nobody said it was easy! Keep grinding!
Wow that’s eye opening 😮 thanks guys I’ve been loading wayyy to early. I’ve hit you guys up about online lessons!
We hope to work with you!
Superb video guys. Thanks again
Of course bro 🙏
I See your vidéo First Time , Bravo Bravo Bravo
Thanks man!!
I never really understood pete cowan’s spiral staircase until watching your video. Thanks.
Glad the lightbulb went off
Great video and explanations. When he hit a shank in that one video, what do you think was the cause of that? I have a tendency to shank when I’m drag my arms across the ball and not release. Does this style promote more shanks if not done correctly?
Handle drag is a big part of shanks. Let the club shoot OUT as you curve the hub path 🙏
As one of the best 80 yr old current golfers in the world I agree with you
Good for you brother! Keep ripping!
Great info guys, new to the channel and really enjoyed the way you explained the phase of the swing.
You got it!
@@elitegolfschools try this out today with my little launch monitor. Wow managed to find 6mph in clubhead speed and ball speed. 6 iron 88-92 mph clubhead, 122-125 ball speed. Can’t wait to work on it now and then the transition. Top info fella’s
So good. Would it be an accurate (over)simplification to characterize the feels as "torso as shaft" and "abs as the pivot"?
In a way yes… depends on how you translate that into movement which is very individualistic 🙏
It’s insane to think it only took 15 years and the emergence of Viktor Hovland for KMs fascia/spine engine theory to come to the surface. You are preaching the truth my man! Keep up the good work
Let’s go!! Two great men you brought up in that comment!
Pure Gold!
Found this channel because of Milo...you definitely know the golf swing!
Appreciate it!
This understanding of the toss float load and unload has TOTALLY changed my ball striking.
Hell yeah dude! Love to hear it
This is unreal love the explanations👍👍👍👍
Let’s go! 🔥
So -I'm at --12:30-- of Vid - And so far I've been waiting to hear what was just demonstrated -- The Unload feels better.
I often continue trying to gain width throughP3 and beyond -- When it comes time to come back & thru, I'm Too Tightly wound. And then it Doesn't feel good or natural on downswing - I have to waste energy to fight to stay in form and on plane
Good feels! Hoping this helps you change some things 🙏
This will turn my swing upside down, however I think eventually for the better! I've never seen anything like this when it comes to learning the swing. Maybe because I golf around 84 to 88. It looks to be very in depth.
Very in depth! Glad you enjoyed!
This resonated with me quite a bit! 👍🏻 Video suggestion- would like to hear how you guys perceive and feel what’s going on in that long transition from p2-p5. I have gone through phases where I’m getting much more distance from exactly the feels in this video but, due to the passive float, it’s hard to feel anything, because when it works it’s almost like you fee nothing at all. So I’was wondering what cues you feel during the long transition even if they’re awareness rather than something you’re consciously doing. In a nutshell- I’ll hit it like a boss for a week doing this but then the same feeling turns into shank city. It could be a bit like what happened to you in the video but I can’t recover like you can. So what you perceive during that transition would be interesting to know.
Great question. We’ll have to make a video diving into this more in depth 👍🏼
@@elitegolfschools Yes, this. FWIW, it has helped me (see my other, somewhat verbose, post) to just _not_ move off the ball from the takeaway all the way through the transition. Why this is helping I can only speculate: It forces me to be 'calm' through to ~P5 because if I don't then, I guess, my brain reacts [poorly]. The hips start to slide; then the arms go [early]; etc. Ick.
This guy is becoming a rock star of the golf swing 👌
Fasho
Love it, you just explained the feeling I have when I'm stripping it. When I am hitting the ball really well I feel like I have all day in the back swing. Subscribed.
Glad to have you aboard bro
Well, I thought this was going to be a bunch of hooey when I saw the title. I was very wrong. After a short range session focused on these ideas I now think this is the magic sauce that stops us from pushing our way through impact and makes our swing durable. Thank you for sharing all your insights.
Appreciate the comment bro! Thanks for the feedback
Guys, Love your videos. Have been an early extender and roller for years. Finally starting to square club face consistently with shorter clubs. Having issue with driver trying to keeping trail side arm bent. can you do a video that addresses the driver . Also is there anything set up wise that should be done differently because we are hitting up on it? Thank you keep the great content coming. Told all my playing buddies about the channel
Check out our video titled “driver vs. wedge,” it should clear some things uo
Question about the unloading of the left spiral line through impact (for righties). During the unload, as the chest expands, will the right arm adduct? Am I correct in surmising there’s no corresponding “no load” phase on the target side of the ball? I’m coming from a mental picture where past P8 in extension both upper arms disconnect from the chest, and I’m realizing my picture doesn’t fit into the pattern you recommend. In a nutshell, I’m trying to understand what post impact through finish should feel like. Thanks in advance!
Great tip I’ve never heard this. Gonna give it a try. I’m afraid I may start swaying trying this technique. How do I prevent a swaying feel?
Sacrum move + rib sway in backswing. Difficult to elaborate fully here - I would check some of the videos on our IG for what we mean 🙏
I would guess this sway here is in the ribs but in a circular way around the core, but the leg and hip sway moves laterally in space toward the back foot, like you’re traveling toward the back foot. Feel free guys and gals of the channel to correct me.
Term Rib sway worked instantly for me whilst terms rotate and turn cause me problems,maybe its all in the mind.
Most pros probably sway but its not obvious,why, cos 95% of Ams position their head forward in the stance as they are looking at the top of the ball with the right eye so they dont miss it!
Most Tour pros ive seen on tv,maybe all,set up with their left eye level or behind the ball, so if the Ams sway the head will move a lot to get to a similar position as the pros whose head will hardly move so you dont notice a sway!
Dont know if Elite would agree with this sway theory! but i do know that rib sway/loading the spiral line and flinging the arms instantly transformed my ball striking,shot 2 over in last comp,nearly 5 birdies on spin and im 63 yo! so keep going with these guys
Guys when you start can you move your hip left one, to the left to start your left then back to get in line w the backswing? Hard to ask in question form.
Great content! Love it! Question I have: I’m NOT flexible and loading into the spiral position is nearly impossible for me, any tips for someone with a shorter backswing or flexibility is an issue? I like to think that I’m Jon Rahm but I’m clearly not. HA.
Same system, smaller waves 🌊 do everything to the extent that you can handle, just at a lower speed and different threshold 👍🏼
Is it truly “lateral movement” or turning around the trail leg?
@@darkh0st tracking pressure shifts and the com of the rib cage in our preferred pattern, yes it is truly lateral movement 🙏
@@elitegolfschools Thanks for the feedback!
@@darkh0st right on!
Like the theory of special relativity but for golf! Late load of lead arm using chest rotation into lead shoulder as the ‘adductor’ is so huge.
Right on! Load em to unload em!
So the initial lateral movement is just that, it’s not trail side bend, it’s “swaying” the lead chest laterally to get the arms to move ?
Love that map!!
Would you call your swing plane a more vertical or horizontal swing plane. Also, which arm is your preferred arm to be on the swing plane or??
Much appreciated.
Both vertical and horizontal, but watch “don’t lift the arms in the backswing” for more background
Wow just stumbled on your channel! Great content! One question if I may? Which pro golfer best demonstrates this load and unload swing?
Tons of good ones! Hovland, Niemann, Rory are among our favorites 👍🏼
A1 golf content. Keep it up
Thank you bro 🙏
How and when do you initially activate the "core muscles" spiral lines?
Cheers
Forget the when as it in the video but how do you isolate and activate the appropriate muscles?
Very interesting, tks👍
Of course!
I’m left handed and during my unload phase I feel pressure and soreness in my lower right side near my hip/love handle area does anyone know what in doing wrong.
Send us a swing and let us take a look!
If someone was looking for a kettle bell weight to use. What size (ie weight) would be a good weight to use that can work on stretching etc. without causing damage, or hurting?
20-40lbs would be good. If you’re actually going to start tossing things around, a 4-6lb med ball would be a good way to start 🙏
@@elitegolfschools cool thank you for all the info y’all have given very eye opening!! I’d def like to see more swinging of the golf club in these kinds of videos though! Keep up the killer work! Sincerely the 25+ handicap community!!
When the body falls, are the hips still at 45 degree angle and it feels like sitting on the left heel?
So we don’t want any lead shoulder protraction until the transition in the downswing?
Good way to think about it 🙏
Great Video. Question? So you are saying its ok to sway a bit only? Coz loads of coaches that sway to the right is death for the golf swing.
Rib sway is generally good, pelvic sway generally bad 👍🏼
I‘d love to hear what Peter Cowen has to say to that. I fully agree with you guys though. By the way: since you are using the spiral line (fascia stretch) for backswing as well now you have turned the body into a spring system in a mechanical sense. This implies an ideal (eigen) frequency and that also implies, that the ground force in the downswing needs to be three times the groundforce in the backswing - that‘s just math. So if you want to hit it further energize the backswing more.
Definitely fits into our system!
Does any of this change with loading times/waves for driver?
Bigger waves, earlier unload with driver (generally) 👊🏼
How do you "toss it up" and still control your wrist conditions to make sure you don't cup the at the top?
There’s a lot that goes into this. Grip, and your own personal “hinge” mechanism. More wrist extension rather than radial deviation if you’re trying to avoid cupping. Cheers
@@elitegolfschools I guess my issue is that if I'm at the top trying to control the wrist conditions, I am pressuring the wrists and therefore I'm creating tension at the top and I start throwing to the bottom. I guess I can try switching up the grip?
Awesome
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I think of a rollercoaster to the top of the hill and then drop...or a child's swing to the top, stop, and drop!
Love that!!
good stuff. But I thought the club is designed such that the face opens and closes. Am I wrong?
Relative to the target yes. Relative to the plane, ideally not much
the best backswing is always to keep your arms in front of the chest
Agreed?
What is that weight you were slinging called I want to get one???
Can go anywhere from 10-20lbs! Doesn’t need to be heavy, could even go lighter
@@elitegolfschools 👍
In some weird way I actually see what you are talking about. Good video
Right on!
@@elitegolfschoolsYes..it was the load phase for me. Got comfortable with that with your help in stride and it just flowed out to release.
It doesn’t seem like your system has much depth in the backswing because if it did there is a much better chance of loading to early. Is this correct? Some coaches want hand in line with ankles at top so it seems to be a little conflicting with this approach?
Depth is created by a big stretch in the upper spiral line - we like depth, just want it to be created that way, instead of artificially through the lead arm stretching across 👍🏼
Love the concept ......... As a Senior the common mindset is to go to lower shaft weights. Seems to me that this is less of an issue since you are counting on gravity and ground force more. Comment ?????
See a quality club fitter and trust their opinion! We teach how to swing it, our expertise doesn’t lie in equipment. But your logic seems solid 👍🏼
“I COULD SMOKE YOU RIGHT NOW!” 😂
Haha!
I think a complementary "Unload the Spiral Line" video would be well received.
Great idea!
Question: Are you saying that the pause at the top drill is not a good drill to use? I practiced this with my coach and it taught me a lot about the transition of my swing. At first, I was shanking, thinning and hitting everything fat but now can pure it off the mat.
And Tiger said he would spend hundreds of hours doing this for months at a time. Just curious if I should not do this drill anymore?
I think for many people the pause drill helps them accomplish exactly what we talk about in this video (swing, slow, stop to top of backswing). It definitely has utility for certain players at certain stages of their pattern improvement 🙏
@@elitegolfschools Thanks for the reply.
Actually, I went to the range and focused did this drill but focused on what you were saying in the video. I made an effort not to feel that pressure at the top of my backswing but to keep the arm loose. Then the feeling of having the arms fall during transition and firing. Love the content!
You've cocked the gun but didn't muscle the hammer👍
Unload that sucker!
Is this Driver friendly advice? Or is that a different approach
Nope, essentially the same approach
Great
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Boom 💥👊
Yeah buddy!!
What loads the trail arm? Its not the chicken wing, is it
Little scap retraction in transition 🙏
David Lee's Gravity Golf...Heave it up, stall and fall
Haha nice!
How heavy is that medicine ball?
4 lbs 👍
Lol limp noodle I love it! That’s my ladies nickname for me 😂
Yikes!! 😂😂
“ No one ever swung too slowly” Bobby Jones
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So basically you want your arms noodle loose at address and let the body turn move the arms up to the top? Did i get that right? And does that method translate to the chipping motion as well?
Seems like a good feel to me!
it’s like a child swing. you let the swing come to a complete stop before adding any down swing pressure. do it too early and the swing loses all tension. a faster backswing will create a more complete or mature backswing.
Great visual!
Shifta turn aaaand let it go!
lol! Yes!
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Lesgo!! 🔥
ever watch Dr Kwon?
Yes, and he is awesome!
you always to late with the downswing and unload your swing
We would like to think that great movers cannot possibly unload the club too early
Driver has always been easy for me as I unknowingly used this method with soft arms whereas irons I have always struggled with. Watching this explains it all so can’t wait to practice this - great video 🏌️👍⛳️
Go get em bro!
nice
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