Why does everyone go on about Takara giving us another version? This line is manufactured for the first time as a unified line between Takara and Hasbro. Both of their Labels are pictured on the packaging. This is the Takara release, This is also the Hasbro release.
I actually like that the leader class figures are done this way. Instead of making them giants. My Titans Return Soundwave towers over Megatron... I hate that. The Seige figures all seem to be part of the same continuity, and the enture line (for the most part) seems to go together. I know the leader class price point grinds a lot of collectors gears, but the leader class toys have more than made up for their lack of size with solid builds, and tons of accessories. I am a little less than impressed with the Astrotrain size comparisons... but the figure looks cool.
Nic Patrie I agree with the most part it’s just comes with the problems with which character they choose to be a leader class. Magnus and Prime worked because the armor looked nice. Shockwave the armor looks really gimmicky, I personally just choose to keep it as hoverboard drone or add it to form the battleship alt mode. The Siege is the first part of what is dubbed the War for Cybertron trilogy. The next one is coming in 2020 as EarthRise. The upcoming Netflix series is met to follow the toy line like the previous trilogy by Machinama. Even the IDW comic reboot is taking inspirations from this line.
On shockwave, they “tried” to make it work.....as a “leader class” figure. They just gave up completely on trying to make astrotrain somewhat justifiable as a leader class.
I like this Astrotrain and appreciate we get characters that are in scale with one another better than having an oversized robot mode. I like the use of extra bits here than they did with Shockwave. I'm curious to see what other characters will get this treatment in Earthrise.
Wow, that is cool! :D I'll definitely consider picking up Astrotrain from the Siege line! :) Although, I do wish his head covered in Train Mode like it is in Shuttle Mode... Never like it when the face is fully visible in any vehicle mode... That's a just personal nitpick of mine, though... :P I mean, if his shoulder pylons weren't in the way you could easily turn his head 180 degrees so his face would at least be covered in Train Mode. That, and I wish the tinderbox actually connected to the Shuttle when laying it on the laid-out tinderbox, as well as having it connect all the way in the other mode for the Shuttle's launchpad, and I also wish the 2 ports in the Train weren't kinda blocked by its wheels since it makes it next to impossible to plug any weapons in there (and some other minor issues here, and there too), but, other than that, really solid figure in my opinion!
Guys, Siege Astrotrain will be getting a rerelease in 2020's toyline, WFC Earthrise. This version is rumoured to not have battle damage, so if you want a clean Astrotrain, I'd suggest that you hold off the him for now.
you can unfold the box while its attached to the train to make a carrier, and if you heat the box hinges up you can lay the flaps out flat and let it cool (the black plastic is slightly flexable), that fixed mine up at least.
With those two holes on the back of the shuttle mode, a third party co can make a shield to convert as a back shuttle covering to peg on those holes to give it a smooth look.
Paint complaints aside, I gotta say, I have REALLY been enjoying the Siege line. This figure and the Optimus Voyager one have been some of the best versions of those characters that we've seen in a long time. Great stuff.
Well done!! I didn’t know the weapons could be stored in the box like that!! Thanks for the heads up!! I rarely look at the instructions so I may have just missed it if it was there. I couldn’t agree more with your sentiments about the figure and would also encourage anyone interested to pick him up while you have the chance. He’s a hefty chonky choochoo that is worthy of anyone’s desk or shelf space.
the price points the figures are sold at - aren't - meant to be a scale chart, it's been like this for a while now, it's also why you can get voyager sized deluxes on occasion like Ironhide and Ratchet
I have this guy but he did not come with his tail fin for his ship mode, but other than that he’s super good! In other words BEST AFFORDABLE ASTROTRAIN EVER!!!
with the tender box/launch pad storing all his weapons attached to his back in robot mode you can now replicate the Ground Gundam with its weapon container backpack from Gundam: The 8th MS Team.
I like the leaders being voyager size with bits and bobs when it makes sense. Magnus was a gimmie, and Shockwave...that's so mad-science I LOVE it. Astrotrain here...If that coal tender could combine into better bot armour then I might think it's awesome. The barely-combined booties and backpack...not terribly cool. A bit of a shame. If the bot and 1 or 2 guns were sold as a voyager I might be more into this. Good thing Titans Return space-train is still satisfying if you're down with a different alt-mode design.
The JNR D51 alternate mode works a lot better on Siege Astrotrain than it does in the 1980's toy. Now to wait for the D-Go and Machine Robo Loco redecos.
There is one thing that we can do to fix the only issue that everyone seems to have with this one, wait for the inevitable Wei Jang oversized Knock Off. When that one comes out, it would surely be the most perfect release of the classic character yet.
What a fantastic figure and great review thanks for sharing this with us Baltmatrix and keep up the great work you do and as always transform and roll out 😀😊
The only problem I have with the figure is the wings and it size. It is a leader class but I wanted him to be as tall or taller as titan return blitzwing astrotrain is small even with the foot pads on.
Actually every single one of the siege leader classes have been a voyager with the extra accessories. And yes I agree that ultra magnus is the only one that works. And maybe the cybertron homage prime too.
Alt-mode scale NEVER matters. Shockwave appears in every way to try and be a massive battle cruiser, much akin to a star destroyer or larger. Starscream is more akin to a fighter. Soundwave looks like a cargo ship... the space version of an FBI/CIA van that is full of spying equipment but pretending to be a delivery truck. None of them scale with one another, nor does Jetfire with the idea that the Autobots were supposed to ride inside of him either. Rather, I enjoy the G1 aesthetic of their designs and paint schemes with a modern twist. The bot mode scale is very nice, which matters a lot more to me. The "eader class" scale to me is far less about the size of the bot, but rather the accessories it comes with. I am happy with Shockwave, Ultra Magnus, and know that I will be happy with Astrotrain with his caboose/launch pad and extra guns. This will be the first Astrotrain I will have ever bought when it finally comes to my country.
After the last few reviews I'm just surprised Balt seemed to like this figure, asside from his usual gripes about the paint apps and those cursed hips he seems to always get.
Thank you for your review. I agree he's small, but I agree he's really nice. I feel the same way about Shockwave he's small for a leader but worth it for an accurate bot and "sub" mode. This Astro is even better than Shockwave and he's super accurate! Keep up the great work my friend 👍👍
I actually like the size. It's really the price that brings it down slightly. Though to have the most G1 cartoon accurate Astrotrain in America ,I'll bite the bullet.
i have this and when I opened my package I thought oh leader class astrotrain but its not leader class put this astrotrain up against voyager siege starscream see what I mean , a uk store was charging more than what you pay for leader class for this voyager class astrotrain
Erm, not to get all "train spotter" nerdy, but it's a tender, not a tinder box; a tinder box is a small tin in which a flint, a steal and some tinder (hence the name) are kept in order to start a fire. And it's not technically a train unless it's pulling carriages, it's a locomotive. I'm not giving Hasbro anymore money for these voyager class figures packed with crap I don't want, I'll wait for Wei Jiang to do their thing!
I'm hoping we get a white, toy-accurate version of this guy as like a TF Selects or something along those lines at some point. I know some people love the grey and purple, but for me it just doesn't cut it. I want my Astro boy to be all shiny and clean.
Is it just me, or do those side pieces on the tender car/launchpad look like they could connect to the ramp/track sections of Omega Supreme's base mode?
Shockwave submarine mode? No upside down laser gun and as for Astrotrain...the tender box, all the guns and battle damage not working for me. It's good but I'm going with the Titan Returns version
I get that he should be bigger but to me if he was gonna be bigger it should been commander class like jetfire. Leader class figures haven’t been very big for a while their generally only about 1-2 inches taller then voyager . I like Astrotrain but I’d probably wait as well.
I really don't mind leaders being the size of voyagers but with more stuff, it always annoyed me a little because of how out of scale alot of the old leaders were compared to other characters, as an example I love that Titans Return Overlord towers over alot of bots because he did in Masterforce but when I see and Optimus or Starscream that's almost as tall as Menasor from the same line it comes off as an eyesore
You could tell Astrotrain missed Megatron in Season 3. So did I. He was cool as Galvatron, but Megatron was my favorite. Glad Astrotrain wasn't mortally wounded in the battle of Autobot City. He would have been transformed into a new Decepticon by Unicron too.
The side panels on the tender, the end of them are clip hinges, when removed they fit together perfectly as a hinged joint, what is their purpose? I can't figure it out. Thanks for another great video.
Why does everyone go on about Takara giving us another version? This line is manufactured for the first time as a unified line between Takara and Hasbro. Both of their Labels are pictured on the packaging. This is the Takara release, This is also the Hasbro release.
@acidonia150 - Not any longer. They did away with that a couple years ago. One unified release moving forward.
@@acidonia150, no PotP and Siege don't do that amymore.
Mostly, I think it's just the fact that people like the molds, but would like versions of them that don't have the schmutz gimmick.
Ah, good, someone else said this.
takara does get some repaints, there is a camo megatron i know of, but not really just a different shades.
"Oh yeah and primes dead"
What a line😂😂😂😂
Optimus: do not grieve
What?!? Who's bright idea was it to kill optimus? Lol
You forgot btw😆
@@Nagatem 😂
@@r.davidhill7639 😂
I like trains.
Joking aside I love this figure. Definitely a must have. I hope they do Blitzwing next.
Earthrise Blitzwing could be cool
Me too I like trains
Hell yeah! He’s an excellent figure, and in my opinion much better than the one we got in titans return
Baltmatrix: What's so funny
Me: nothing
Also me: Purple train, purple train.
THANOS TRAIN! THANOS TRAIN! lol
i'm going off the rails as a purple train
i'm going of to space as a purple train
AUTOBOTS TO BLAME!
Thew moment
@@windelingswindle6452 And we have a winner
@@_RandomPerson_ what is a tango train?
I actually like that the leader class figures are done this way. Instead of making them giants. My Titans Return Soundwave towers over Megatron... I hate that.
The Seige figures all seem to be part of the same continuity, and the enture line (for the most part) seems to go together. I know the leader class price point grinds a lot of collectors gears, but the leader class toys have more than made up for their lack of size with solid builds, and tons of accessories.
I am a little less than impressed with the Astrotrain size comparisons... but the figure looks cool.
Nic Patrie I agree with the most part it’s just comes with the problems with which character they choose to be a leader class. Magnus and Prime worked because the armor looked nice. Shockwave the armor looks really gimmicky, I personally just choose to keep it as hoverboard drone or add it to form the battleship alt mode.
The Siege is the first part of what is dubbed the War for Cybertron trilogy. The next one is coming in 2020 as EarthRise.
The upcoming Netflix series is met to follow the toy line like the previous trilogy by Machinama. Even the IDW comic reboot is taking inspirations from this line.
I love how he drops the word "butt plug" like its just an every day thang lol
And thick legs 🦵 lol
The section of the train that holds the coal is called a Tender. A tinder box sounds like something you find in a jewelry store 🤣
Precisely. Doesn't take 2 seconds to Google.
Tinder Box sounds like some kind of Kinder Egg.
A tinder box is where you store keepsakes of all your encounters from dating apps.
Tinderboxes were basically the predecessor to matches, if I recall correctly
Nom Nom Snake the tinderbox is where he keeps the dead female autobots he killed to make darkrail racer of 3 girl cons
Face in the thumbnail? He's adapting!
They missed a trick by not using some of that coal car panelling to fill in the back of the shuttle mode, and by not making him a little bigger
On shockwave, they “tried” to make it work.....as a “leader class” figure. They just gave up completely on trying to make astrotrain somewhat justifiable as a leader class.
I think the “battle damage” works well for Astrotrain.
I agree it looks bad ass
Yeah. It's basically re-entry burns for the shuttle mode and makes the most sense for where it is
i Like it because it gives the idea that he Was Crashing through the Atmosphere but why doesn't the Battle damage Continue on the cockpit?
Me too, I'm actually used to the battle damage paint with the figures
Either re-entry burns, or soot from train mode
Wow. This guy does so much. Thank you for bringing him Saturday. The train rolls so smoothly.
Remember when Hasbro didn’t put waste articulation on a great amount of their old figures. I can’t wait for the line after Sieg
*Describes how easy it is to combine his guns. Struggles to combine them. Leaves it in the final footage.*
This is why we love you, Spada.
Never in my life would I hear Balt say those two words
I like this Astrotrain and appreciate we get characters that are in scale with one another better than having an oversized robot mode. I like the use of extra bits here than they did with Shockwave. I'm curious to see what other characters will get this treatment in Earthrise.
Did you guys see we will be getting Hoist and Cliffjumper in Earthrise?
CyberPrime 935 Hoist looking beautiful
Let me tell you about a little secret of Astro train.
MASS SHIFTING
He still wasn't that short in robot mode comparatively with the other Decepticons.
This video simultaneously revitalized my love of Astrotrain and sold me on this figure. Buying one when I get my next paycheck for sure
Them guns... Astrotrain is branching out into arms dealership
The guns would go well with swindle
He must of met up with jhiaxus the Russian arms dealer
He must had a arm deal with the Vok of Nexus Zero. If you're ever in the Nexus Zero area, look them up you won't be sorry.
Wow, that is cool! :D I'll definitely consider picking up Astrotrain from the Siege line! :) Although, I do wish his head covered in Train Mode like it is in Shuttle Mode... Never like it when the face is fully visible in any vehicle mode... That's a just personal nitpick of mine, though... :P I mean, if his shoulder pylons weren't in the way you could easily turn his head 180 degrees so his face would at least be covered in Train Mode. That, and I wish the tinderbox actually connected to the Shuttle when laying it on the laid-out tinderbox, as well as having it connect all the way in the other mode for the Shuttle's launchpad, and I also wish the 2 ports in the Train weren't kinda blocked by its wheels since it makes it next to impossible to plug any weapons in there (and some other minor issues here, and there too), but, other than that, really solid figure in my opinion!
10:50 i was having the same issue and went back to the instructions for some insight, apparently that's actually what you're supposed to do
Guys, Siege Astrotrain will be getting a rerelease in 2020's toyline, WFC Earthrise. This version is rumoured to not have battle damage, so if you want a clean Astrotrain, I'd suggest that you hold off the him for now.
you can unfold the box while its attached to the train to make a carrier, and if you heat the box hinges up you can lay the flaps out flat and let it cool (the black plastic is slightly flexable), that fixed mine up at least.
With those two holes on the back of the shuttle mode, a third party co can make a shield to convert as a back shuttle covering to peg on those holes to give it a smooth look.
Paint complaints aside, I gotta say, I have REALLY been enjoying the Siege line. This figure and the Optimus Voyager one have been some of the best versions of those characters that we've seen in a long time. Great stuff.
Balt:primes dead
Not again God dang it
what is this, 28th time?
Duskbringer I think we’re in the 30s actually
It's the best official Astrotrain we've ever gotten. Easily.
Well done!! I didn’t know the weapons could be stored in the box like that!! Thanks for the heads up!! I rarely look at the instructions so I may have just missed it if it was there. I couldn’t agree more with your sentiments about the figure and would also encourage anyone interested to pick him up while you have the chance. He’s a hefty chonky choochoo that is worthy of anyone’s desk or shelf space.
I love this fig. He may not be as tall as a normal Leader class but his overall mass and full transformation alt modes are well executed.
Soundwave still looks like a galactic cereal box.
Also, can you put the heel parts on the shuttle to bulk up the back end?
Best astrotrain we've gotten from hasbro ever
Amen brother!
New story: Optimus was killed by Astrotrain. Where Megatron fails Astrotrain prevails
LeviathanPlayzMinecraft 2119 see the episode...triple takeover...I think?
the price points the figures are sold at - aren't - meant to be a scale chart, it's been like this for a while now, it's also why you can get voyager sized deluxes on occasion like Ironhide and Ratchet
I'm really happy with Astrotrain, you're really happy with Astrotrain, we're all really happy with Astrotrain
18:41
"Thomas had never seen such ....... before"
never knew what a tinderbox was. Nice getting some educational content from this channel
Good review man. Always love your content. Just ordered mine through amazon and I can’t wait!
I have this guy but he did not come with his tail fin for his ship mode, but other than that he’s super good!
In other words
BEST
AFFORDABLE
ASTROTRAIN
EVER!!!
I wonder if Takara will put out a repaint of this figure to match the G1 toy colors?
Got this guy preordered and really looking forward to him! But if a KO company did an oversized version of it I would jump on it immediately
everytime balt says some transformers is "too small"
3rd party manufacturer should take notes from it and make oversized figure from it
with the tender box/launch pad storing all his weapons attached to his back in robot mode you can now replicate the Ground Gundam with its weapon container backpack from Gundam: The 8th MS Team.
I like the leaders being voyager size with bits and bobs when it makes sense. Magnus was a gimmie, and Shockwave...that's so mad-science I LOVE it. Astrotrain here...If that coal tender could combine into better bot armour then I might think it's awesome. The barely-combined booties and backpack...not terribly cool. A bit of a shame. If the bot and 1 or 2 guns were sold as a voyager I might be more into this.
Good thing Titans Return space-train is still satisfying if you're down with a different alt-mode design.
Beautifully designed transformer,would like to get my hands on astrotrain again with luck and patience.
The JNR D51 alternate mode works a lot better on Siege Astrotrain than it does in the 1980's toy.
Now to wait for the D-Go and Machine Robo Loco redecos.
15:27 - this is not plain ridiculous, this is shuttle ridiculous...
This guy and spinister are coming tomorrow and I'm super pumped. And this astrotrain looks fantastic
"Oh prime is dead btw" amazing content bolt keep it up :D
Astrotrain my all time fave next to Grimlock i had both as a kid
There is one thing that we can do to fix the only issue that everyone seems to have with this one, wait for the inevitable Wei Jang oversized Knock Off. When that one comes out, it would surely be the most perfect release of the classic character yet.
I've limited myself to buying 1 figure a month. Astrotrain will be my June 2020. Thanks for the review.
What a fantastic figure and great review thanks for sharing this with us Baltmatrix and keep up the great work you do and as always transform and roll out 😀😊
The only problem I have with the figure is the wings and it size. It is a leader class but I wanted him to be as tall or taller as titan return blitzwing astrotrain is small even with the foot pads on.
Actually every single one of the siege leader classes have been a voyager with the extra accessories. And yes I agree that ultra magnus is the only one that works. And maybe the cybertron homage prime too.
Alt-mode scale NEVER matters. Shockwave appears in every way to try and be a massive battle cruiser, much akin to a star destroyer or larger. Starscream is more akin to a fighter. Soundwave looks like a cargo ship... the space version of an FBI/CIA van that is full of spying equipment but pretending to be a delivery truck. None of them scale with one another, nor does Jetfire with the idea that the Autobots were supposed to ride inside of him either.
Rather, I enjoy the G1 aesthetic of their designs and paint schemes with a modern twist. The bot mode scale is very nice, which matters a lot more to me.
The "eader class" scale to me is far less about the size of the bot, but rather the accessories it comes with. I am happy with Shockwave, Ultra Magnus, and know that I will be happy with Astrotrain with his caboose/launch pad and extra guns. This will be the first Astrotrain I will have ever bought when it finally comes to my country.
Thanks for always being funny Baltmatrix, your a funny man!
Astrotrain is just taking that bayverse prime trailer concept for his own for his train army xD
Congratulations, Balmatrix!
After the last few reviews I'm just surprised Balt seemed to like this figure, asside from his usual gripes about the paint apps and those cursed hips he seems to always get.
2:12 "...ALL DEEZ GUNZ!"
It seems that Hasbro has now decided that leader class figures are just voyager class figures with extra bits added...
I just realized he did a clickbait face for the thumbnail
Thank you for your review. I agree he's small, but I agree he's really nice. I feel the same way about Shockwave he's small for a leader but worth it for an accurate bot and "sub" mode. This Astro is even better than Shockwave and he's super accurate! Keep up the great work my friend 👍👍
I actually like the size. It's really the price that brings it down slightly. Though to have the most G1 cartoon accurate Astrotrain in America ,I'll bite the bullet.
i have this and when I opened my package I thought oh leader class astrotrain but its not leader class put this astrotrain up against voyager siege starscream see what I mean , a uk store was charging more than what you pay for leader class for this voyager class astrotrain
3:12 wh… What did you do to Optimus?
If you put the box on AstroTrain’s back with all the guns in it, it’s really reminiscent of the Gundam Ground Type’s back container
Do the caboose track connections attach to Omega ? Let to extend the track?
I kinda like the size with extra stuff tradeoff. In some cases. Like astrotrain magnus and galaxy prime.
Erm, not to get all "train spotter" nerdy, but it's a tender, not a tinder box; a tinder box is a small tin in which a flint, a steal and some tinder (hence the name) are kept in order to start a fire.
And it's not technically a train unless it's pulling carriages, it's a locomotive.
I'm not giving Hasbro anymore money for these voyager class figures packed with crap I don't want, I'll wait for Wei Jiang to do their thing!
*Any more.
Well by Dec. 24th I should get mine. Looking forward to him as well.
“Tinder box” it’s a Tender, if you must then maybe a Tender car
I'm hoping we get a white, toy-accurate version of this guy as like a TF Selects or something along those lines at some point. I know some people love the grey and purple, but for me it just doesn't cut it. I want my Astro boy to be all shiny and clean.
Well a Galaxy Shuttle repaint was just announced. He is a white shuttle and a black train.
Is it just me, or do those side pieces on the tender car/launchpad look like they could connect to the ramp/track sections of Omega Supreme's base mode?
We sure this isn't a masterpiece? Reminds me of a masterpiece version. Gotta admit, the train car attachment is an excellent touch.
CyberPrime 935 Hasbro has said they have taking inspiration from the Masterpiece line for the engineer for this new trilogy
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Well now, this is quite the surprise.
I knew it! Baltmatrix is a Thicc Legs kind of guy!
Shockwave submarine mode? No upside down laser gun and as for Astrotrain...the tender box, all the guns and battle damage not working for me. It's good but I'm going with the Titan Returns version
Another great vid review! Hey Baltmatrix what’s the end theme song??
I get that he should be bigger but to me if he was gonna be bigger it should been commander class like jetfire.
Leader class figures haven’t been very big for a while their generally only about 1-2 inches taller then voyager .
I like Astrotrain but I’d probably wait as well.
I really don't mind leaders being the size of voyagers but with more stuff, it always annoyed me a little because of how out of scale alot of the old leaders were compared to other characters, as an example I love that Titans Return Overlord towers over alot of bots because he did in Masterforce but when I see and Optimus or Starscream that's almost as tall as Menasor from the same line it comes off as an eyesore
The transformation, or at least the stuff you do with the arms to transform him reminds me of motor master’s arms.
Which Motormaster?
Look at the octane and merk figure the front of the truck mode is on the sides of the plane mode
When you add his backpack, is it possible to fold it open?
18:47 maybe you could put brunt’s turret on there
I honestly don’t mind the size. They’re still amazing figures, and that’s enough for me.
Happy to report my wfc seige ultra mangus has tight hip joints
shockwave with his extra stuff kinda looks like the decepticons ship when you flip him upside down or is that just me?
Nobody:
Rumblee in latin america
: Astrotonto.
8:05 and galaxy optimus, considering the character its referencing
Legs in robot mode are mistransformed. The yellow red stripe part from the shuttle pegs at an angle when in robot mode.
*commander class astrotrain cries in the corner*
You could tell Astrotrain missed Megatron in Season 3. So did I. He was cool as Galvatron, but Megatron was my favorite. Glad Astrotrain wasn't mortally wounded in the battle of Autobot City. He would have been transformed into a new Decepticon by Unicron too.
You can bend the wings back, if you're sure its possible
In shuttle mode put the tinder on the back and flip it over and it will line up with the shuttle just right.
Astrotrain gets re-released in Earthrise for those who don't know
:D
Betting that's when we get Blitzwing
And hopefully sandstorm (he’s my fav)
@@TooDudical4U i still dig that Sandstorm from 5 yrs ago, Generations 30th IDW... awesome fig
RearAdmiralBIGCORE Really? Are you just messing with us?
Andrew Coote the next blitz needs 3 faces
...how long due you bet for third party manufacturers to make an oversized versions of this figure
Little twiki Astrotrain. Astroforce rave up!
00:35
The tender can also attach to omega supreme.
The side panels on the tender, the end of them are clip hinges, when removed they fit together perfectly as a hinged joint, what is their purpose? I can't figure it out. Thanks for another great video.
The clip hinges can connect to Omega Supreme/the other baseformers
@@thedripcritic9379 yes, thank you i recently realized when watching a review of ironworks. Didn't get it at first.
I think the tender should have transformed into a filler piece for the top of the shuttle mode
Great idea! I would have preferred that to it acting as boots for the robot modes feet.