The worst thing about her envolvement is that since the loudest people who voiced their dislike for Velma were just complaining about the woke stuffs like the race swapping, Mindy and other people envolved in the creation of the show pretended that all the hate the show was recieving was from "angry bigots in their 40s". Like no girl, the show is just sh1t everyone from every political party can agree on that 😂
I'm going to be honest, it isn't *too* surprising, but it's still a shame that the show was as bad as it was. I actually really like the concept of a more adult-oriented Scooby-Doo show with more horror elements, since that's a concept that has the potential to be really interesting.
@@jeneveuxpasdiremonnom1198I'm literally a 32 year old queer bi leftist male like I'm the target demo and couldn't tolerate more than one scene of it hahaha. There's witty social critique and then there's just stroking your ego using universally beloved characters. Velma had some of the most flagrantly out of touch dialog I've heard in a really long time You'd think her experience with the Mindy project would make her more compassionate lmao
@@nailinthefashion Fr tho, it's trying so hard to have edgy humor like Family guy not knowing that even shows like Family guy nowadays are not that funny.
I’ve accepted the fact that women’s bodies and trauma will be exploited for entertainment, and I’m not going to try to fight every piece of media that does this, *BUT* the Idol is supposed to be about an industry that does exactly that and instead of exploring it honestly, it does exactly what it’s supposedly calling out.
The idol reminded me of "Cuties" in 2020, trying to call out something but at the end giving 0 lessons about it or to fight against it. Characters don't even talk about it explicitly and give a lesson to the protagonist, the idol is not even about the music industry, just a random dude owning a random cult.
@@jeneveuxpasdiremonnom1198 out of curiosity, did you even watch the movie? Because I did and even though the film doesn't give a big Jean-Luc Picard speech at the end of the film, it's very clear to anyone with a modicum of media literacy that none of the behavior is looked on in a positive light. I mean, the ending dance number pans out to an adult audience that is shaking their heads in disgust and Ami herself runs back home to play jump rope with the neighborhood kids. If that's Nora very clear statement, I don't know what is. It's also worth pointing out that the movie focuses on a Muslim girl whose family was new to France and preparing for her father to bring home a second wife and both she and her mother have Thoughts™ on this. Like, we can criticize how the director chose to get the message across but I will say for the record that the director did have psychologists on set and the close up shots people in the US took issue with used adult body doubles. The uncomfortableness was the point of the movie and truste when I say people who beat off to kids don't need to endure two hours of French art house media with subtitles to do it. Tik Tok is free.
The lessons are there though....From her arc coming full circle and understanding Tedros is a manipulative piece of shit, to her catharsis with her mother. The ending represents two broken people willing to manipulate and weaponize sex.....if you missed it, thats your fault.
gotham knights would make a better fanfiction than tv show i fear 😭 like batmans son solving batmans murder while falling in love w jokers daughter? thats a corny fanfic plot if i've ever heard one
@@nailinthefashion I think you mean Dino Charge and Mystic Force, but I agree. I always go back to In Space all the way up to Wild Force. They're really good.
@@brian0057 oh I guess I did mean Fury, there's a bunch of seasons I don't remember being separate but all are dino themed hahaha. Those were just phenom to me. I really wanted a western style dragon zord
Lots of people say that the only good thing Sam Levinson ever wrote was Euphoria season 1, but he didn't even write that. Season 1 was an American adaptation of an Israeli show of the same name, which was only ever one season.
I wouldnt say levinson didn’t write euphoria. A lot about the adaptation is really different from the original, especially with the direction the story goes in, and in rues characterization. Rue in the original series is dead, and is telling the story after they died of an overdose, while in the adaptation rue is very much alive, and given how much levinson based rues story off his own story with drug abuse rue will probably be alive and overcome her addiction by the end of it. But like even with the more minor characters like Kat their characterization is pretty similar but in the isreali version Kat gets aids and has her life ruined. Levinson didn’t make a one for one copy of the original, and season 1 of euphoria is a lot more compelling and interesting than the weird miserable mess that is the original isreali version. I would say he’s a hack tho, because season 2 sucked and the idol is one of the worst shows I have ever had the displeasure of seeing.
@@ohhibob1006 I'm pretty sure that the majority of Euphoria Season 1 was written by other people. One of the big reasons season 2 went to shit is because half the writing room was fired for some reason.
The acting in secret invasion is incredibly high quality, easily one of the best casts Marvel has ever put together yet the writing was so bad that even incredible performances by Olivia Coleman, Ben Mendleson and Sam Jackson can't carry it
Right? They had the cast but the script wasn't good. If this was Nick Fury dealing with aliens and reconciling with his wife and hanging out with Talos and Olivia Coleman, I think it would have been better. Or maybe it should have been a movie.
@@katherinealvarez9216yes marvel has problem of not understanding what to make of of and what to make a show of, like eternals should've been a show instead of a movie and secret invasion should've been a movie instead of a show Likewise, ms Marve would have worked as a movie because it was too slow And they should focus on more good animated shows and vring back cancelled shows that were fan favourites like spectacular apiderman, EMH, etc.
@@rjk537 Getting cancelled shows back on are very rare and hard, but they can definitely promote what they have. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur are just amazing. I'm still thinking they're in a transitional/rebuild phase, but it is taking way longer and hurting a lot more than I predicted it would. And it's a shame because they got some talented people on board.
It's actually really funny when you remember they had a script already and threw it away because it was written by a woman and then proceeded to disrespect all the women watching haha
I am truly shook that the CW is over. Like, on the one hand, great? But on the other hand, I'm kind of sad. Like, where will I go for 1 hour video essays about the latest Riverdale trainwreck? Where will Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa go for work? What world do we live in now?
I'm old enough to remember when the WB and UPN first merged to make the CW. UPN in particular was absolutely ass that was expecting Star Trek to carry them, not unlike its carrying the Paramount Plus app now but pivoted hard after America's Next Top Model became a hot and then they became WB 2v Electric Boogaloo.
@@KariIzumi1 Well, without UPN we wouldn't have had Veronica Mars, so they did have a few more shows that weren't Star Trek. It's a pitty that Disney basically killed the show, I think it still had potential, but the fourth season Disney made simply wasn't good.
It's still wild to me that Secret Invasion had a $212 Million budget (releasing in the same year as Oppenheimer with its $100 Million budget), and THAT was the result.
And Godzilla Minus One had an even smaller budget yet is being considered one of the best movies this year. It makes me wonder what is going on in Hollywood right now.
I'm not familiar with how either film industry works.. but i'm just gonna assume 15 million usd is very different in Japan than in the us But yeah it's still true...hollywood movies and shows are overly expensive @@plagueboi2861
@plagueboi2861 my personal belief is that inflated budgets are due to the star power behind the work, hence the huge price tag on the Infinity movies; Marvel made them not just heroes, but guaranteed mega-stars. Movies began to be advertised on star power alone. They throw huge paychecks at their actors so people come to the movies, once again setting them up for failure. RDJ had to demand LESS for one of the movies (i don't recall which one) because his coworkers weren't getting paid nearly as much. Secret invasion, between the CGI and SLJ's salary, was doomed to fail from the jump.
Secret Invasion had A Lister Oscar nominees and winners, expensive foreign locations and expensive FX. That's what ate up the budget. Godzilla Minus One had no expensive locations, no fancy FX and no expensive actors. They didn't need to spend big $$$ on it.
I'd love to see you make a video about shows or movies that wasted their promising concepts. "The Idol" would definitely make that list, with a bullet, and it's a shame that we'll never see Amy Siemetz's frankly more compelling sounding version, with Jocelyn attempting to reclaim her agency back from the seedy industry who cruelly took it from her.
There were two or three moments in Secret Invasion that (in my opinion) were truly spectacular. Those moments where when two powerhouse actors were allowed to sit across from each other and just *act.* The two biggest that come to mind are Fury and his wife at the kitchen table, and Fury and Talos on the train. What's so frustrating is those few shining moments only highlight how tremendously awful the rest of the show was.
For me I just wish they named it something after Nick. Don't waste Secret Invasion as a title if you aren't gonna do dozens of heroes crossing over and being paranoid
*The Walking Dead* was the biggest fumble of all time.. Frank Darabont who’s essentially a master at adapting projects - says he wants to adapt a zombie series - keeping the human drama intact from the comics but also wanted to explore the virus’s origins?? He delivers a smash hit. And they fired him to shorten costs and raise profits.. I’m glad Frank Darabont is coming back for Stranger Things (supposedly) because he deserves another chance.
Morgan choses to be passifict but then something happens and he gets pissed off and decides to kill everyone but then he doesn't like what he has became and killing is bad so he decides to be a pacifist" accurate af😂
@@lorifintel9784 she says in the clip, something like "So I told them, don't tell anyone what you saw, or else you're fired!" And then she laughs and laughs like it's so funny to make people afraid they'll get fired.
I love how Sam Levinson is quickly becoming the new Roberto Aquire Sacasa. Hopefully that means we can push back against him as quickly as possible into indifference:
The fact that Marvel turned Nick Fury, one of the coolest, intelligent and mysterious characters in the MCU who helped The Avengers become a team in saving the world, into a sad, miserable, dumb old man was just *dreadful* to watch. Character assassination at it's finest. And I thought an alien cat scratching his eye out in Captain Marvel was the *worst* thing that happened to him.
@@VesnaVK How come Maverick and Peter B. Peter, despite their ages and current state, still get to be themselves and kick ass while the rest of these icons get treated with zero respect and understanding Modern Hollywood has a twisted and sickening way of doing things like this.
Agents of SHIELD did a better Secret Invasion arc than Secret Invasion did. Marvel really just could have hired the writers that actually made a spy story work.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D was so amazing generally, more people should see it and hopefully one that it will get respect it deserves. Character development and grow, interesting and fresh stories for seven seasons , enough fun and drama, some incredible acting ( Iain and Brett especially) . Just incredible. First seasons was pretty average, but still had some incredible moments but after it gets better. I still miss it, best MARVEL TV Show by country male nothing comes close
Velma is so beautifully animated and I feel so sorry for those artists who used their talent on this garbage. Also the guy who directed The Idol needs to be cancelled for putting this mess into the world. I only saw the first episode and I'm still traumatised
Secret Invasion definitely showed me that all of the cool spy elements that we got from Winter Soldier are probably never coming back with actual good writing. That is depressing.
yeppp, tws was back when they actually gave a shit about any individual product they made. now they’re so busy congratulating themselves on the ~complicated~ cinematic universe that they’ve forgotten each piece is actually supposed to be worth watching. on its own.
Fun fact: I watched the flash when I was quite young, and I used to think his name was Berry Allen for a LONG TIME, mostly because I'm Scottish and my young brain didn't comprehend that the Americans were saying Barry. Man was I depressed when I learned what his real name was.
The Crowded Room was one of those shows I wanted to succeed but also fail. I have a dissociative disorder that manifests very similarly as DiD. So any time a piece of media decides to touch my disorder, it always fills me with dread. When Tom Holland got attached to the project, I became a little hopeful. From the way he talks in interviews etc I trusted him to treat the disorder with respect and not as a troupe like so many other pieces of media do. Heck the man destroyed his mental health trying to make sure he was portraying things correctly. Part of me wanted this show to succeed, because we could have had a show that portrayed the complexities of having alters with nuance, not as simply a troupe, and could help start to break some of the stigma given to the disorder by Hollywood. But alas, it came out and it was awful, just a boring, uninteresting mess and all the discussion that came from it was from Superhero fans being angry Tom Holland had a gay scene. For now, Moonknight continues to be the best representation we have
Seriously I feel sorry for you peeps with Dissociative disorders and the awful rep you get. I'm a writer myself and I take all these horrible rep as lessons in what not to do (and of course involving people from said communities in the production and writing process)
If you want a book that has a some good dissociative disorder representation, the Stormlight archive by Brandon Sanderson has a main character with a dissociative disorder. I don't have a dissociative disorder and the author doesn't either but what I've heard from fans is that he portrays it in a respectful way. Plus, she gets to be more than her disorder and trauma. The whole series touches on metal health a lot and it's praised for it.
Currently watching mystery incorporated and velma in season 1 is unbearable. Wild to see because I thought only the show Velma portrayed Velma so poorly.
Seems reasonable. Why waste an actually talented showrunner by making them try to salvage Sarah J Maas' terrible books when Sam Levinson is right there.
You've kind of missed a key point about the CW network. While it's true that their domestic television division never made a net profit, the programs that were created for that network did prove profitable when combining domestic ad revenues with foreign licensing deals for most of the network's history. It's not like the companies that owned it prior to Nexstar were just keeping the network around for the fun of it. They were making money, it's just that profitability relied in a large part on downstream sales of the products they were producing.
They probably couldn't use any of them, although I believe that they would still use that random original character even if they could use a few members of the Bat family
my brother and I used to watch the Flash, but we quit a couple episodes into season 4. came back to watch the shows finale. I probably enjoyed watching Cats 2019 more. I got so mad at what the writers did to everyone and everything; it was awful
I will forever be disappointed by wtf the marvel writers were thinking with Secret Invasion. One of the most interesting stories the comics have ever done next to House of M and they went in all the wrong places
I think this list really shows that you cannot be saved by a really good cast - just another thing showing why you need great writers for a great show!
Secret Invasion will always be my #1 worst this year. Just all the things wrong with Marvel put into one project. I always held out faith after every “bad” project and it just finally broke me.
I just can’t believe they would rip the balls off of Nick Fury by going “yeah you know all that awesome shit he must have done to become the goddamn leader of SHIELD??? Yeah no it was shapeshifting aliens the whole time, turns out NF is just a loser who whines about race oppression even though he’s in one of the most privileged positions a human could hope to be in, and it turns out he didn’t even earn it, he was given it” Like WHY would they just cuck one of the best human heroes?? What did it serve??
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access all his character development just thrown out the window. And don’t even get me started on the final battle. A CGI fuck fest making little to no sense. Yeah let’s just give her Drax tattoos and Ebony Mals rings. Those are definitely in the DNA of these characters
I am genuinely suprised you never made a video on Robyn Hood. Based on how ridiculous it is, and how it's a CW superhero ish show, it looked right in your wheelhouse. Great video as always, btw!
ive never heard of Gotham nights before but I think I would've absolutely ate. it. up. as a teenager in my superwholock phase. I watched anything with an "edgy" superhero premise, and Misha collins? jokers daughter, Batmans son? terrible plot? slay, of course, what else does a story need?? 😂😂
What's funny about it is, in some of the comics, Harley and Joker DO have a daughter - but Harley kept her a secret because she feared what Joker would do to the kid. She wanted her daughter to have a normal life away from all the BS and grow up not walking in Joker or Harley's footsteps, which would be a compelling story that this show ignored. It could have involved Joker's daughter grown up and finding out who her father was, being pulled into their world through someone finding out Harley had a kid, and even involved Damian Wayne cause they'd be about the same age. She and Damian would be contrasted and complementary at the same time, as her parents were villains but she grew up well-adjusted, but Damian's father was Batman and he grew up first in the criminal underworld and then became a hero alongside his dad & adopted brothers, never having lived a normal life. I'd have loved seeing that interaction.
Funny, Misha Collins made for a really good Harvey Dent, he was really entertaining to watch. And Olivia Rose Keegan (Joker's Daughter) was also a highlight, she was genuinely funny. They hard carried the show, worth looking up their scenes on RUclips.
@Kaihart Joker’s Daughter is also already a comic character way before that, and despite her last name being Dent, it’s only teased that she might de Two-Face’s kid instead.
Mindy Kaling is the executive producer of Velma. In television the Executive producer has a great deal of creative control, almost like a director in a movie. That's why many TV shows will have different directors from episode to episode, they are more facilitators than visionaries, the executive producer often guides the show. It's not like movies where a producer is mainly a money man. So I do think a lot of the blame is shared between her and the writers. EDIT: Of course right after I post this I see your comment correcting yourself!
I find it funny that you had to use the Gotham Knights title from the game that came out last year. Because the title for the actual show is a dark font in a black background that you can barely see.
I think riverdale has pretty much completely leaned in to the fact that it's bad and rolls with it. so it would kind of be a wasted spot considering it isn't trying to be good or be received as such in the first place
Euphoria season 3 will land in the honorable mentions for the year. Unless Zendaya gives an absolute tear jerking performance, the season will be forgettable.
Zendaya was great on season two but still the season was bad. No matter how good a performance is, if the overall project is terrible, it will land on the worst lists.
Mayfair Witches is perhaps my favorite book series since I was a child, and what they did to those books with that show is unforgivable. I implore anyone who has seen the show to understand that it has NOTHING to do with the books. Watching interviews with the show runners of both Mayfair and Interview claiming that they read the books and wanted to "honor" the source material is enraging because they ripped it to shreds, it's unrecognizable character-wise, which is devastating for such character-driven stories.
Thank you for taking a part of your The Crowded Room commentary to praise Tom Holland. Literally after No Way Home, Tom Holland has been very strangely despised by most of the Chinese Internet, the netizens calling him a shitty actor (attributed to the mediocre projects he's involved in since No Way Home and the convoluted and mediocre writing of No Way Home but I personally defend this for the absolute surprise it would bring to moviegoers that watched it with a packed theatre of audience) and criticizing him as a complete hack compared to Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and even Zendeya. I just hope Tom takes the time to recover and after that, find really good writers and filmmakers that can pull off amazing plots to make his endeavor pay off. And yeah, you are on the nail about 2023 being what is probably the worst year for superhero media, with projects tanking harder and harder financially one after another and even setting new lows for box office records. The same is applicable to the over quality. Secret Invasion, along with Thor: Love and Thunder, is the one of the most disappointing MCU projects, and probably the last straw for a number of fans who wanted MCU to be good. But still, I really wanted MCU to be back in its glory days before the pandemic and I think they can take their time to figure things out in the right way after the colossal creative mismanagement of Phase 4 & 5. The same goes for DCU, I hope James Gunn will pull this off.
I think most criticism I've seen of Tom Holland have mostly been about his choice of projects rather than his acting. Like most/all celebrities, he has his haters (especially among spiderman fans who favor tobey or andrew), but most people who hate his body of work even praised his acting. From all things I've heard about Chinese netizens, they will hate with no impunity. However, for all the haters yell about NWH, it's still the 2nd highest grossing MCU film in the US and 3rd worldwide. I agree about the superhero movies/shows though. I think it was too much too fast. It feels like they just wanted to keep cranking out content instead of really taking the time to craft a good story.
@@genericplantlife I agree with you. I think I came across a RUclips video titled Does Tom Holland Need To Fire His Agent? And I think if Tom wants to get the recognition he desires, he needs to shift to new agents that can grant him access to amazing projects with compelling plot and intriguing complex characters. I think the year 2023, by the way, has solidified the fact that generic, formulaic superhero movies is no longer attracting audiences to go see it. I think it would be fantastic if MCU uses the ending of Loki Season 2 to make things better, rework established events and rework the new characters and their development in the grand scheme of things, I would love it. In addition, MCU needs to dramatically slow down its output of content and really differentiate their significance in the franchise; I think the Marvel Spotlight is a good move to avoid confusion, and I think a lot of Phase 4 TV shows should be under this banner. Deadpool will be the only MCU theatrical release next year and I wish it can be as successful as its predecessors. We’ll see! (Plus, I’m making a video on superhero media like MCU, DC, Sony’s Spider-Man Universe, The Boys and so on; stay tuned)
The worst thing Ive ever heard anyone say about Tom Holland is that he still looks 16 years old when hes like 40. Which actually makes a lot of people envy him. I can personally attest that looking a lot younger than your age has challenges as well, especially in dating.
@@TheSuperappelflap I see. Oh, maybe he can take a well-written role that looks drastically different from his actual appearance to give the audience a pleasant surprise.
What’s unfortunate about Velma is the animation quality is very good. The WB animation team deserves better than having their name associated with this turd.
Glad to see another Indira Varma stan in the wild! She's an amazing actress, she always gives it 100% and I am always glad to hear her voice. I am so bummed that she keeps getting these blah roles (looking at you, game of thrones season 5).
Compared to the crap role she had in the Obi Wan Kenobi TV show her role in GoT Season 5 was TV gold. But I'm pretty sure we'll see a lot more of her, considering she's probably a vampire who doesn't age. Seriously, she looks the same now than back when she played Lucy B*tchface in Hustle or that British cop in the London episode of Bones.
@@phelanii4444 It's one of the shows I clawed my way through, because I kept thinking that with that much talent involved, it has to become good at some point, right? Wrong. That show should have been named Star Wars - Continuity Break. As for Indira's character in that show, I am pretty sure we were supposed to be on her side, because she's an early joiner of the rebel alliance and all that, but seriously, she's a total psychopath. I mean, she's been serving with her comrades for years by now (she's a commanding officer, so she knows them all), but then she shoots them in the backs like it's nothing? Over somebody who might or might not be a Jedi?
ngl, I took great sadistic joy in watching pretty much every media commentary YTer shitting on The Idol this year, couldn’t have happened to a better show
Mindy Kaling telling a story of she straight up violated a man and then said she’d fire him if he blabbed is horrible and I hate the way people gloss over it
Whoa. what's up with the Flash costume? I haven't watched since season 1 but I totally remember the suit look a lot better then! Now it looks like a home made handy craft project for a school play! The material looks so cheap that I'd be afraid to even put it in the washing machine!
With every show listed, I kept cringing that Sex Education would be higher on the list. Season 4, they added characters for representation sake which I normally would be all for. But, they forgot to give them any story or character development. The original characters were as good as ever. But their screen time was cut down. Also, Im hoping the Fred Astaire biopic is great because Tom Holland deserves a non Spiderman hit.
"they added characters for representation sake which I normally would be all for." Why would you "normally be all for" adding characters just for the sake of representation? That is so shallow and narrow minded, as well as straight up prejudiced. Should never be accepting of trivial pandering.
Yeah, probably sex Ed s4 wasn't bad enough to be in this list, but it definitely was one of the biggest fall offs of this year, when you compare it to the first 3 seasons
I don't think I could ever watch Sex Education, because the very idea of Zoomers condescendingly explaining safe sex makes me want to curl into myself and die. And I actually like Gen Z-ers for the most part.
I hope Cruel Summer season 2 gets it's own video! I'm so curious on your thoughts on it since you initially thought it would be a continuation of the first season, and the clips of it in this video got my hopes up lol
Secret invasion hurts. Was fully excited for a throw back to a MCU spy thriller, like Winter Soldier, especially after a overflow of cgi vs cgi character smack down. I don’t understand how they failed THIS bad
I think the list this year really showed that even some absolutely incredible actors can't save something with awful writing. Some of these TV shows have some actors that have amazing work - Secrets Wars has a ton to choose from, Citadel's Richard Madden gave an incredible performance in Bodyguard, and I love most of the cast in Velma - but holy moly they were given absolute messes to work with. I'm really looking forward to the inevitable documentary about the behind the scenes of The Idol that will tell a far more compelling story than whatever The Idol was trying to tell after it was rewritten into oblivion by a man that should be kept away from young women.
Richard Madden does seem like a good actor but everything hes been in, that I have seen, since GoT is just...bland. He should tell his agents to spice it up a bit.
I'm surprised Cruel Summer season 2 didn't make it at least into the Honorable Mentions. It dragged, the different time levels didn't serve a purpose as they did in season 1, the color grading was jarring and it ended with practically the same notion: second girly = two-faced bad bitch. Also everyone's an asshole, the mother is the only character with good intentions.
I remember I stopped watching season 2 because I just…lost interest. Usually I’m all for a color grade change but I felt the one they chose to be so unflattering. It’s crazy because I loved season 1 but they really dropped the ball with season 2
@@DawnsHuntress I started to skip through the episodes after the third one and it still felt too long. And yeah, I'm all for good color grading, it can provide great visual storytelling, but the vomit green hue just wasn't it.
You could do a top 10 disappointing endings, like not the worst of the year but definitely not the ending those series deserved. Mine include sex education ,dead to me and ted lasso (no idea if this is controversial). As I watched those shows at your recommendation I would be very interested to see what you thought of the series finale(except sex education cuz i know you already made a video about it).
I LOVE Emilia Clark but my god the woman can't catch a break with shite shows 😂 someone please give her a project that's worth her talent, she's so charismatic and FUNNY why doesn't she get cast in comedic shows ? I don't want the middle few seasons of GOT to be her career high
from what i gather, many people, and this is my personal opinion as well, find her uncharismatic, bland, unlikable, and an average actress at best. negative amounts of screen presence. and she isnt hot enough to make up for it. she was only cast in GOT because she didnt mind getting naked.
Mindy Kaling: I am south Asian, for the record. I am Madrasi and my family is Tamil and Telugu speaking. I don’t like how brown dudes are never the option for her female leads. They are punchlines and caricatures. It’s upsetting. That said, all her characters are versions of her. Which is fine, but to have diverse representation without weird personal hang ups, we need more South Asian voices.
Fellow South Asian here (family is from Maharashtra)! I highly agree, there’s already a very limited number of south Asian representation in media and it’s frustrating finding even more limited perspectives on our community. We desperately need more south Asian writers and artists!
Isnt there plenty of that representation in Bollywood? I love cheesy over the top Bollywood action movies. Asking for more representation in other countries cinema is like me from Europe (not English) complaining there arent enough Germans in Bollywood movies.
33:33 Yeah, this is exactly the type of stuff that makes me not like a person. Talking about sexually assaulting someone, and threatening the witnesses with taking away their jobs, while you can hear the most forced laughter in the background, it just makes me not like you. And I loose absolutely nothing, by not watching any of her projects. I’m just going to pretend she doesn’t exist. Which, at least on a financial standpoint, is the worst thing I could do to her.
Credit where it's due, it really was interesting to watch the CW Batwoman writers use Gotham Knights to double down on basically every fuck up from their original show.
Eric Wallace should be in prison for what he has done to The Flash. If I will Become Green Arrow in Future, I will go to his place and tell him that "You have Failed this show".
Yeah, I am so glad that Dylan called out Eric Wallace for completely ruining the show with his ego. I sincerely hope no studio will ever be stupid enough to hire him in any capacity. I feel so bad for the entire cast, especially Candice Patton, who despite her excellent performance, has been hated and blamed for ruining the show for a decade just because of her portrayal of a badly written character. I hope the entire cast move on to better things after this shitshow; they deserve so much better.
@@TonyTheFriendlyMovieFan Run, Iris, Run was the episode written only by Eric Wallace. Eric Wallace was co showrunner during season 4 and 5. That's why the flash went downhill in these seasons but wasn't bad as later seasons because showrunner was Todd Helbing. I still don't understand who hired Eric Wallace 😭
@@Fast4K I watched seasons 4 and 5 as a teenager, and despite looking back and acknowledging its flaws, it was kinda okay. The point I started to realize something went off with the show is after the "Crisis on Infinite Earths" crossover, when I sensed a drastic change in the show and not in a good way; then we have the last 3 seasons, which are absolute trainwrecks. And that's not mentioning that The Flash has delivered one of the most insulting series finales/final seasons in TV history. I saw the small number of fans who still stick with the show on the Internet and hoped this final season to land ranting with the rage of a thousand suns. In retrospect, episode 10 of season 9 proved to me that Eric Wallace could make the show better and pull off a good final goodbye, but he does not want to; he does not give a single flying fuck about the fans and instead continues to double down his attention on the empty ass characters he created in the DC comics that nobody gives a shit about. A lot have said that Arrow and The Flash are perfect examples for a How (not) To End A Show video, and I agree. With Superman and Lois distancing from the Arrowverse with one of the original showrunners of The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow, one of the few Arrowverse shows I like, got canceled on a cliffhanger because Warner Brothers did not want to pay the rent of the set anymore, this last official season of the franchise ends with a wimp that is just embarrassing. Arrowverse was such a big part of my teenage years but it ended with the sound of wind. Fan-fucking-tastic! I feel bad for the cast of The Flash to act out the absolute atrocity of scripts they were given and I'm glad the show is finally over after almost a decade. Again, hope they all move on to better projects.
@@Fast4KCorrection: the showrunners for S4 were Andrew Kreisberg (who was fired from all WB Television projects in late 2017 due to sexual harassment allegations) and Todd Helbing; Todd was the sole showrunner for S5, after which he stepped down as showrunner, left the show and went to develop Superman & Lois instead. Eric Wallace was showrunner for the last 4 seasons of this show; I would argue that the Bloodwork arc was a fluke for Eric probably because that was a leftover idea from Todd for the Crisis setup.
Kinda surprised to see Crowded room on the list, I enjoyed the show a lot. And the part about the awful reception is a little confusing cuz it literally has 7+ ratings on every single film review website (except for critics' rating on rotten tomatoes, but the audience seems to have loved it) But thanks for a great video anuways!
CW tv shows are such a disaster. Assuming it doesn’t get cancelled, they can’t end a single show of their own volition without running themselves in circles and driving the story into the ground. They wait until the whole fanbase is begging for the show to die before they end it. (It’s not solely a CW issue, since Grey’s Anatomy is still going, but it’s the only company I can think of that does it with every show.)
You say Mindy Kahling was not a producer of this show, but she is consistently credited as Executive Producer in the credits on every episode, as well as having her own production company's logo at the end of every episode as well. So no, She wasn't just the voice talent for this one, but did in fact have a much larger hand in its creation. Although the writing is very much Grandy's baby. Trust me. I had to watch all 10 episodes 4 times to make a video on it.... edit: oh wait you already clarified in a pinned comment lol my bad. Still leaving this comment up tho because I didn't suffer for nothing...
I am still convinced that the people behind Velma didn't know they were making an animated series. Because otherwise, how did the line "Adults who still watch cartoons" get into it? It would have worked if they had said "children's cartoons" instead, but they didn't. They decided to make fun of their audience which already didn't have good will towards them, for no reason, instead.
The Flash on CW is a depressing case of shows that lost steam. The first few seasons being 1-4 were entertaining but past those it became rinse and repeat.
You know I really didn’t like secret invasion at all. They took away what made it so good in the comics, once I heard it wasn’t going to be comic accurate, I immediately said yeah this is not going to be good.
you should see/talk about Pennyworth! It's very good and it got canceled after season 3 which was BS. its infuriating to see that there are these awful shows that continue for ages, to have a good show get canceled and unfinished.
Season one was awesome. I wish they hadn't made it have any ties to the Batverse. It hobbled what really could have been an amazing universe of stories. At least it introduced me to Paloma Faith.
I saw the description for Obsession and was not about to even try to watch it. As someone who has been in a relationship with a bit of an age gap, I hate the sensationalization of it and the sexualization of it in the media. It's not that common, and it really shouldn't be, but dang if you're gonna do it, can you show it in an actually interesting and complex way? Not just "Ah age gap", especially when it's between adults. I think that other show that has a literally illegal age gap relationship being portrayed that blew up online (May December? I also didn't watch it) actually made it complex and made a statement on the power imbalance and the way the younger party was victimized. And it was campy.
@@LuisSierra42 Exactly the kind of smooth brain response Netflix is hoping will be used to defend their shitty shit so that they don’t have to actually try Congrats on being part of the problem.
@@LuisSierra42 Meh she looks like Noomi Rapace in Prometheus. Weird British face. If I walk down a street in any continental European country I will see 10 hotter women than that every 100 meters.
I loved season 1, was disappointed with season 2, and gave up on season 3 after only a single episode. I struggle to think of another show with a more spectacular fall from grace than Sex Education.
@@johanaforever965 I thought season 2 had it's moments, but became very bloated and unfocused. When the show stopped being so centered around Otis and Maeve it lost most the magic that had got me invested in the first place, and the new additions to the cast all annoyed me. That first epidode of season 3 felt like a parody.
It suffered from the fact that not even those who worked on it knew whether it would have been the final season or not. It's a clear example of studios' greed, with their tendency to try and milk every ounce of content from a show and not letting it end on it's terms but stretching it for as long as possible. Netflix wanted to do 5 seasons despuite two of the main characters, emma Mackey (maeve) and ncuti gatwa (Eric) already made it clear that s4 would have been their last. Looking at s4, it really gave me the impression that the story had nothing more to tell, it was genuinely boring (apart from Adam's and aimee's arcs).
Fear The Walking Dead has always been a mixed bag for me. In my opinion, season 1, 2, 3 and 6 are all at least decent seasons. The first half of season 4 wasn’t too bad either, despite the fact my favourite character had arguably the worst death on the show. 5,7 and 8 are just a complete embarrassment, but I can’t say I didn’t enjoy seeing Troy Otto back for the final few episodes.
100% agree. FTWD was good for S1-3. It wasn't perfect back then and the plots were minimal, but the character writings were 10/10. Everyone has their own internal struggles and all of their actions ultimately led into an ending nobody guessed (in S3 especially). It's also a good move to decide the teenagers were not that dependant to their parents and thus, making rocky relationship among them. In fact, I believed S4 supposedly about Alicia and Nick vs Madison. These two siblings were so good at bonding and leading new group of people. Their mother though, was a straightforward no risk taker. And thus, causing half their problems worsened. S4,5,7,8 were just shit writing and delusional way of living in post apolyptic world per Morgan persuation. S6, is a mix of equally good and bad storytelling. It's a waste potential really. Especially with how amazing acting most the actors could do...
I wish Priyanka Chopra got better projects……she’s such a great actress She has done so many great films in Bollywood….Bajirao Mastani, barfi, 7 khoon maaf… She’s basically a legend…and it hurts my soul to see her get treated so badly by Hollywood
Her agent needs to be fired or something. She's only getting signed for bad shows after bad shows. Like, who flicking signed her up for that Sharkboy and Lavagirl sequel?
This list is apparently the answer to the question, “where did all the Game of Thrones actors go after the show ended/they were killed off?” which is a shame because a lot of them are really talented.
My ex-housemate's partner loved the Idol (but this is a person who thought men messaging underaged girls 'is harmless') berated me for hating the Idol and kept going on about how much he loved it and then yelled at me when i said "it's been cancelled" as if i had personally cancelled it?
FTWD isn't only one of the worst series of 2023, but this show basically did something very unforgivable to FTWD fanbase. The showrunners were literally committed the worst crime possible, REPLACING the main characters. They kicked Madison's actor out of the show in a very unprofessional way and killed Nick in a very dumb way, leaving only Alicia and their main group to be led by the replacement, Morgan. The result? All of the character good writings went out of the window and the plots became redundantly general, boring, and stupid. In case u want to know, Alicia, Victor, Daniel, and Luciana already had the base for their characterization well established. They were all flawed characters with good redeeming quality and they DEFINITELY DID NOT need Morgan to lead them. It's a shame what the showrunners had done to them. The writings were just dumb really. It's also a shame they forced Alicia's actress to continue with the show despite her having other responsibilities for other shows (work contracts). And the showrunners didn't allow her to leave cause they knew Alicia is the only main reason the majority of their fans are still around. Yes, this was true. The remaining fanbase literally threatened the showrunners to not kill Alicia off in any way. She's the only one who carried the Clark legacy. Until finally at the end of S7, they decided to get Madison's actress back just so an original Clark can replace her. Resulting in S8 became a huge mess with their bad writings. I felt really bad for Kim Dickens and Alycia Debnam Carey honestly.
Fear may very well be the worst scripted television series in American broadcast history, if not the top 5. It is bafflingly, bizarrely awful, I feel like even the author of this video didn't properly describe how fucking bad it is. I'm still pissed I watched all of it. It is easily #2 to me this year next to The Idol, and one of the worst cable shows I've ever bared witness to. Citadel, The Flash, and some of these I'm sure don't even deserve to be in the same league.
FTWD is so painful because Erickson had a spectacular vision for the show that could've even surpassed the main show. Gimple and the writers should be ashamed because they ran the show to the ground omg.
I had no idea that the flash even ended this year. I used to be really into this series so its a little sad to see it go out like this. I wish more studios could be prepared to let their shows end on a high rather than dragging it out and ending when they had just ran out of steam years ago.
I will forever be upset that Fear The Walking Dead fell victim to corporate involvement and decided to make it steer off its original story for the sake of a connected universe. I felt bad for the actors who invested in their characters from the 1st season, only for it to all be thrown away after season 3 and rebooted.
I loved Never Have I Ever, and i'm so happy I have accidentally avoided every other Mindy Kaling project! it shall be not so accidental in the future 😂
I have a friend who is a writer who is friends with someone who was one of the story editors for secret invasion, and in 2022, she said the earlier drafts were even worse. She said they were a disaster and made no sense and she had to rewrite a bunch of it to improve it. After seeing the show, all I could think was, "HOW BAD MUST THE EARLY DRAFTS HAVE BEEN FOR THIS TO BE THE IMPROVEMENT!"
It's so annoying how these terrible shows go on and on, yet they cancel good shows like "Raised By Wolves", season one was brilliant sci fi and season two was almost as good. It's pretty pointless getting invested in shows when they can just cancel them at any time.
I don’t know if I remember this correctly but the writers of the flash left after season 1. Which makes sense. Cuz even though S1 isn’t perfect it’s like a masterpiece compared to anything after it. Parts of it were actually really good
Huh… I really liked the Crowded Room. And I literally fall asleep halfway through an episode of something I’m not enjoying (I became a dad this year, it’s tiring). I quite liked the slow pace of the show personally and think if they’d rushed it or condensed it into a movie you’d lose a lot of the character study.
Gossip Girl 2022 was such a missed opportunity because they had interesting characters, great fashion, and even a pretty good group of actors. I think the main problem was Joshua Safran from start to end with the fact he refused to improve upon the show and accept valid criticism.
Gossip Girl could’ve been so good! I was really into the aesthetic and fashion, you could tell whoever was in charge of that knew what they were doing. You could also tell the beginning of season 1 was just doing stuff for nostalgia sake but by the end, I could feel the show was finding its footing. I was so excited to hear that Monet would get attention for season 2 because her character is interesting but the whole season just felt so goofy and all over the place :(
i would like to hear your thoughts about Russian doll both season 1 and 2. I finished season 1 and absolutely loved it and was honestly hesitant to watch the second season fearing it would either ruin or add absolutely nothing to the first. After watching it I honestly dont know how to feel and havent seen many people talk about it
This video is a perfect example of why I don’t trust when my dad recommends me something. 4/10 shows on this list are things that he has told me are “so good” (The Flash, Fear the Walking Dead, Secret Invasion, Gotham Knights).
Since you showed footage of it for, like, three seconds, I would be interested in your thoughts on Cruel Summer Season Two because to me it did some things better and some things worse. Like, I think it builds characterization a bit more, at least for the main three and maybe the mom, and overall the themes feel more consistent and its big final moment doesn't feel completely out of nowhere (plus I have to give credit to Griffin Gluck for being the Olivia Holt of the season and I'm glad he's escaped Tall Girl), but at the same time the mystery just doesn't feel quite as compelling as the first season and, if season one was too long, this season is definitely too long, I watched it a couple of months ago and there's like two significant moments I remember between episodes three and six. It's also now been cancelled which was a little disappointing since I think the format still has more stories worth telling and I hope at some point we get more, whether directly or through something that takes inspiration from it. Until then though, I would still be curious about your thoughts on it.
Hey! Quick correction: it turns out, Mindy Kaling DID produce Velma. So I take back what I said, she's just as responsible for it.
Happy new year!
The worst thing about her envolvement is that since the loudest people who voiced their dislike for Velma were just complaining about the woke stuffs like the race swapping, Mindy and other people envolved in the creation of the show pretended that all the hate the show was recieving was from "angry bigots in their 40s".
Like no girl, the show is just sh1t everyone from every political party can agree on that 😂
I'm going to be honest, it isn't *too* surprising, but it's still a shame that the show was as bad as it was. I actually really like the concept of a more adult-oriented Scooby-Doo show with more horror elements, since that's a concept that has the potential to be really interesting.
@@purplecoffinman8510 The closest we got to that was Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, that show was cool as hell.
@@jeneveuxpasdiremonnom1198I'm literally a 32 year old queer bi leftist male like I'm the target demo and couldn't tolerate more than one scene of it hahaha. There's witty social critique and then there's just stroking your ego using universally beloved characters. Velma had some of the most flagrantly out of touch dialog I've heard in a really long time
You'd think her experience with the Mindy project would make her more compassionate lmao
@@nailinthefashion Fr tho, it's trying so hard to have edgy humor like Family guy not knowing that even shows like Family guy nowadays are not that funny.
I don’t care Sam Levinson shouldn’t direct any tv show for another 2 years for the crimes he committed with The Idol!
The Weeknd’s dirty talk made me a resident at Arkham Asylum.
*20 years
Heyyy love your channel!❤
Jesus, you guys really haven't watched any bad tv if you complain this much about The Idol.
@@milamila1123 i was able to continue watching the last season of The Vampire Diaries, don’t tell me i haven’t watched any bad tv
I *literally* forgot Velma premiered in 2023 - and I think that was for the best.
Me too😂😂
Same here! It was so bad it actually feels like it came out the year before :D
Awful baked awfully.
I know it feels like such a last year show it feel weird to say it came out this year
It came and went by so fast that you’d think it came out last year or something lmao
Same it’s so bad.
I’ve accepted the fact that women’s bodies and trauma will be exploited for entertainment, and I’m not going to try to fight every piece of media that does this, *BUT* the Idol is supposed to be about an industry that does exactly that and instead of exploring it honestly, it does exactly what it’s supposedly calling out.
It’s like saying “m*rder is wrong!” By brutally butchering someone on camera while their family screams in horror
The idol reminded me of "Cuties" in 2020, trying to call out something but at the end giving 0 lessons about it or to fight against it. Characters don't even talk about it explicitly and give a lesson to the protagonist, the idol is not even about the music industry, just a random dude owning a random cult.
it’s so much worse too that it was originally supposed to be good but was rewritten specifically to avoid the themes that made it good
@@jeneveuxpasdiremonnom1198 out of curiosity, did you even watch the movie? Because I did and even though the film doesn't give a big Jean-Luc Picard speech at the end of the film, it's very clear to anyone with a modicum of media literacy that none of the behavior is looked on in a positive light. I mean, the ending dance number pans out to an adult audience that is shaking their heads in disgust and Ami herself runs back home to play jump rope with the neighborhood kids. If that's Nora very clear statement, I don't know what is.
It's also worth pointing out that the movie focuses on a Muslim girl whose family was new to France and preparing for her father to bring home a second wife and both she and her mother have Thoughts™ on this. Like, we can criticize how the director chose to get the message across but I will say for the record that the director did have psychologists on set and the close up shots people in the US took issue with used adult body doubles.
The uncomfortableness was the point of the movie and truste when I say people who beat off to kids don't need to endure two hours of French art house media with subtitles to do it. Tik Tok is free.
The lessons are there though....From her arc coming full circle and understanding Tedros is a manipulative piece of shit, to her catharsis with her mother. The ending represents two broken people willing to manipulate and weaponize sex.....if you missed it, thats your fault.
gotham knights would make a better fanfiction than tv show i fear 😭 like batmans son solving batmans murder while falling in love w jokers daughter? thats a corny fanfic plot if i've ever heard one
i would have eaten this shit up at twelve, not gonna lie
Comparing the latter seasons of The Flash to Power Rangers is an insult to both Power Rangers and Tokusatsu in general.
PR is so good especially if you go back and watch stuff like Dino Fury or Magic Force subbed
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I think you mean Dino Charge and Mystic Force, but I agree.
I always go back to In Space all the way up to Wild Force.
They're really good.
@@brian0057 whatever they're called, they're incredible hahaha peak sentai
@@brian0057 oh I guess I did mean Fury, there's a bunch of seasons I don't remember being separate but all are dino themed hahaha. Those were just phenom to me. I really wanted a western style dragon zord
@@nailinthefashion my favorite was Wild Force. Also RPM had a very interesting setting
Lots of people say that the only good thing Sam Levinson ever wrote was Euphoria season 1, but he didn't even write that. Season 1 was an American adaptation of an Israeli show of the same name, which was only ever one season.
Makes sense, zendaya is the only good thing abt euphoria season 2
I wouldnt say levinson didn’t write euphoria. A lot about the adaptation is really different from the original, especially with the direction the story goes in, and in rues characterization. Rue in the original series is dead, and is telling the story after they died of an overdose, while in the adaptation rue is very much alive, and given how much levinson based rues story off his own story with drug abuse rue will probably be alive and overcome her addiction by the end of it. But like even with the more minor characters like Kat their characterization is pretty similar but in the isreali version Kat gets aids and has her life ruined. Levinson didn’t make a one for one copy of the original, and season 1 of euphoria is a lot more compelling and interesting than the weird miserable mess that is the original isreali version.
I would say he’s a hack tho, because season 2 sucked and the idol is one of the worst shows I have ever had the displeasure of seeing.
I didn’t know that!
And he also stole the esthetic of the show from Petra Collins who was originally supposed to direct the show.
@@ohhibob1006 I'm pretty sure that the majority of Euphoria Season 1 was written by other people. One of the big reasons season 2 went to shit is because half the writing room was fired for some reason.
The acting in secret invasion is incredibly high quality, easily one of the best casts Marvel has ever put together yet the writing was so bad that even incredible performances by Olivia Coleman, Ben Mendleson and Sam Jackson can't carry it
Right? They had the cast but the script wasn't good. If this was Nick Fury dealing with aliens and reconciling with his wife and hanging out with Talos and Olivia Coleman, I think it would have been better.
Or maybe it should have been a movie.
@@katherinealvarez9216yes marvel has problem of not understanding what to make of of and what to make a show of, like eternals should've been a show instead of a movie and secret invasion should've been a movie instead of a show
Likewise, ms Marve would have worked as a movie because it was too slow
And they should focus on more good animated shows and vring back cancelled shows that were fan favourites like spectacular apiderman, EMH, etc.
@@rjk537Secret Invasion couldve been an Event with the heroes on the level of the Avenegers movies.
@@rjk537 Getting cancelled shows back on are very rare and hard, but they can definitely promote what they have. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur are just amazing. I'm still thinking they're in a transitional/rebuild phase, but it is taking way longer and hurting a lot more than I predicted it would. And it's a shame because they got some talented people on board.
how? how was it bad? exactly WHAT about it was bad? yall just keep repeating what the internet tells tou to think
I still can't believe that The Idol was real show made by real ppl who thought it would lead to some sort of real discussion.
Lord knows how they could have dreamt that
Can you imagine writing that show-
It's actually really funny when you remember they had a script already and threw it away because it was written by a woman and then proceeded to disrespect all the women watching haha
@@nailinthefashion True. I really would have watched that show.
When you have your head so far up your own ass it comes out the other side
I am truly shook that the CW is over. Like, on the one hand, great? But on the other hand, I'm kind of sad. Like, where will I go for 1 hour video essays about the latest Riverdale trainwreck? Where will Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa go for work? What world do we live in now?
I'm old enough to remember when the WB and UPN first merged to make the CW. UPN in particular was absolutely ass that was expecting Star Trek to carry them, not unlike its carrying the Paramount Plus app now but pivoted hard after America's Next Top Model became a hot and then they became WB 2v Electric Boogaloo.
@@KariIzumi1 Well, without UPN we wouldn't have had Veronica Mars, so they did have a few more shows that weren't Star Trek. It's a pitty that Disney basically killed the show, I think it still had potential, but the fourth season Disney made simply wasn't good.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo fair,but like I said, it was a way last ditch pivot in its last three years and it was too little too late by then
He’s in charge of the pretty little liars original sin and the pretty little liars summer school is going to come out
@@Missmagazinebura Thank goodness.
It's still wild to me that Secret Invasion had a $212 Million budget (releasing in the same year as Oppenheimer with its $100 Million budget), and THAT was the result.
And Godzilla Minus One had an even smaller budget yet is being considered one of the best movies this year. It makes me wonder what is going on in Hollywood right now.
I'm not familiar with how either film industry works.. but i'm just gonna assume 15 million usd is very different in Japan than in the us
But yeah it's still true...hollywood movies and shows are overly expensive @@plagueboi2861
@plagueboi2861 my personal belief is that inflated budgets are due to the star power behind the work, hence the huge price tag on the Infinity movies; Marvel made them not just heroes, but guaranteed mega-stars. Movies began to be advertised on star power alone. They throw huge paychecks at their actors so people come to the movies, once again setting them up for failure. RDJ had to demand LESS for one of the movies (i don't recall which one) because his coworkers weren't getting paid nearly as much.
Secret invasion, between the CGI and SLJ's salary, was doomed to fail from the jump.
Secret Invasion had A Lister Oscar nominees and winners, expensive foreign locations and expensive FX. That's what ate up the budget.
Godzilla Minus One had no expensive locations, no fancy FX and no expensive actors. They didn't need to spend big $$$ on it.
And Samuel took 211 of that 😭
I'd love to see you make a video about shows or movies that wasted their promising concepts. "The Idol" would definitely make that list, with a bullet, and it's a shame that we'll never see Amy Siemetz's frankly more compelling sounding version, with Jocelyn attempting to reclaim her agency back from the seedy industry who cruelly took it from her.
In time is the prime example of a movie that wasted a great concept 🧡
I think he already made a similiar video
It will always make me sad to see set photos of Siemetz’s version because it will always be a “what could have been” situation
Mindy describing what she did to Lee Pace and the aftermath of it is horrifying.
And we as society moved on way too quickly.
@@adegg9616 of course a man was the victim so it doesn't count. At least in many people's eyes. 🤷♂️🤷
And a gay man to boot.
I didn't even hear about this! Shows how swept away it was. Poor Lee!
WHAT
I completely missed that! What happened?
There were two or three moments in Secret Invasion that (in my opinion) were truly spectacular. Those moments where when two powerhouse actors were allowed to sit across from each other and just *act.* The two biggest that come to mind are Fury and his wife at the kitchen table, and Fury and Talos on the train. What's so frustrating is those few shining moments only highlight how tremendously awful the rest of the show was.
For me I just wish they named it something after Nick. Don't waste Secret Invasion as a title if you aren't gonna do dozens of heroes crossing over and being paranoid
*The Walking Dead* was the biggest fumble of all time.. Frank Darabont who’s essentially a master at adapting projects - says he wants to adapt a zombie series - keeping the human drama intact from the comics but also wanted to explore the virus’s origins?? He delivers a smash hit. And they fired him to shorten costs and raise profits.. I’m glad Frank Darabont is coming back for Stranger Things (supposedly) because he deserves another chance.
Morgan choses to be passifict but then something happens and he gets pissed off and decides to kill everyone but then he doesn't like what he has became and killing is bad so he decides to be a pacifist" accurate af😂
L take, walking Dead Season 1-6 + Season 9 and Fear The Walking Dead Season 1-3 is fantastic
Honestly The walking dead season 1 is really bad, i have nobody what everybody loved about it so much. It’s horribly written.
@dahannes6739 Those seasons were cool but they weren’t S1 levels of well written.. Darabont is on another level to Scott M Gimple who killed the show
Ehhh nahh
Mindy Kaling joking about assaulting her costar is absolutely crazy what??
OMG WHUT?!
Then jokes about threatening employees.
@@VesnaVK?
@@lorifintel9784 she says in the clip, something like "So I told them, don't tell anyone what you saw, or else you're fired!" And then she laughs and laughs like it's so funny to make people afraid they'll get fired.
Absolutely. I believe if it was a man that said that, there would’ve been more of a social media and public backlash
I love how Sam Levinson is quickly becoming the new Roberto Aquire Sacasa. Hopefully that means we can push back against him as quickly as possible into indifference:
I would argue that Sam is worse than Roberto
@@WaltDevil060I agree. I'd feel more in danger if I was in a room with Sam than Roberto.
Some of the animators who worked on “Velma” refused to mention it on their portfolio 😂
That's a wise decision those animators made.
It's funner that the animation is like, one of, if not the only positive the show has. I don't blame them though
Tbf, the animation was good. It was just everything else that was bad.
Mindy Kaling is an executive producer and showrunner for Velma and she wrote the 9th episode... She did not "just voice the main character."
The fact that Marvel turned Nick Fury, one of the coolest, intelligent and mysterious characters in the MCU who helped The Avengers become a team in saving the world, into a sad, miserable, dumb old man was just *dreadful* to watch. Character assassination at it's finest.
And I thought an alien cat scratching his eye out in Captain Marvel was the *worst* thing that happened to him.
It's the Last Jedi treatment. They did it to Luke, Han, Indy, even Napoleon.
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How come Maverick and Peter B. Peter, despite their ages and current state, still get to be themselves and kick ass while the rest of these icons get treated with zero respect and understanding Modern Hollywood has a twisted and sickening way of doing things like this.
@@liamphibia I don't know what Peter B. Peter is. Maverick made bank! Maybe Hollywood will learn something?
@@VesnaVKPeter B. Parker is from the Spiderverse movies
@@WaltDevil060 thanks! I do know who that is. 🙂
Agents of SHIELD did a better Secret Invasion arc than Secret Invasion did. Marvel really just could have hired the writers that actually made a spy story work.
Man I miss Coulson
Agents of Shield is so underrated. It was the greatest show on TV while it aired.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D was so amazing generally, more people should see it and hopefully one that it will get respect it deserves. Character development and grow, interesting and fresh stories for seven seasons , enough fun and drama, some incredible acting ( Iain and Brett especially) . Just incredible. First seasons was pretty average, but still had some incredible moments but after it gets better. I still miss it, best MARVEL TV Show by country male nothing comes close
Velma is so beautifully animated and I feel so sorry for those artists who used their talent on this garbage.
Also the guy who directed The Idol needs to be cancelled for putting this mess into the world. I only saw the first episode and I'm still traumatised
Secret Invasion definitely showed me that all of the cool spy elements that we got from Winter Soldier are probably never coming back with actual good writing. That is depressing.
yeppp, tws was back when they actually gave a shit about any individual product they made. now they’re so busy congratulating themselves on the ~complicated~ cinematic universe that they’ve forgotten each piece is actually supposed to be worth watching. on its own.
@@MyChannel773 They definitely went for quantity over quality.
The winter soldier was awesome. The action, the twists, the pacing, the chemistry between Captain America and Black Widow… all of it was 🔥
@@jamescarr1265 That's the movie that sold me on Black Widow and Sam Wilson.
@@claytonrios1 ugh such great characters. i wish Marvel still made good characters but we’re past the golden age
Fun fact: I watched the flash when I was quite young, and I used to think his name was Berry Allen for a LONG TIME, mostly because I'm Scottish and my young brain didn't comprehend that the Americans were saying Barry. Man was I depressed when I learned what his real name was.
The Crowded Room was one of those shows I wanted to succeed but also fail.
I have a dissociative disorder that manifests very similarly as DiD. So any time a piece of media decides to touch my disorder, it always fills me with dread.
When Tom Holland got attached to the project, I became a little hopeful. From the way he talks in interviews etc I trusted him to treat the disorder with respect and not as a troupe like so many other pieces of media do. Heck the man destroyed his mental health trying to make sure he was portraying things correctly.
Part of me wanted this show to succeed, because we could have had a show that portrayed the complexities of having alters with nuance, not as simply a troupe, and could help start to break some of the stigma given to the disorder by Hollywood.
But alas, it came out and it was awful, just a boring, uninteresting mess and all the discussion that came from it was from Superhero fans being angry Tom Holland had a gay scene.
For now, Moonknight continues to be the best representation we have
Seriously I feel sorry for you peeps with Dissociative disorders and the awful rep you get. I'm a writer myself and I take all these horrible rep as lessons in what not to do (and of course involving people from said communities in the production and writing process)
Yeah that sucks, y'all deserve better rep
Moon Knight is awesome, and that's weird because the MCU has, as we saw, just been shitting the bed
If you want a book that has a some good dissociative disorder representation, the Stormlight archive by Brandon Sanderson has a main character with a dissociative disorder. I don't have a dissociative disorder and the author doesn't either but what I've heard from fans is that he portrays it in a respectful way. Plus, she gets to be more than her disorder and trauma. The whole series touches on metal health a lot and it's praised for it.
0@@PanAndScanBuddy I think Moon Knight was pretty mid. Saved by very strong performances yes, but nowhere near Loki or Wandavision
Velma is so bad that it made my sister regret wearing her costume when my family dressed up as the Mystery Gang!
Currently watching mystery incorporated and velma in season 1 is unbearable. Wild to see because I thought only the show Velma portrayed Velma so poorly.
@@reading1713 At least I grew up with Zombie Island and Witches Ghost
Now I can finally formulate my opinions on the worst shows of the year
Lmao. Hope you were able to formulate ur opinions on the best shows tho.
It was worth the wait though
ME too. I was on standby the whole time until this video came out.
This is not fantano's channel lmao
Every time I think about The Idol, I'm reminded of this phrase: "so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
Let's face it: Sam Levinson should be doing Sarah J Maas adaptations, because that's what The Idol is.
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Seems reasonable. Why waste an actually talented showrunner by making them try to salvage Sarah J Maas' terrible books when Sam Levinson is right there.
I'm speechless. but like. you're not wrong
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You've kind of missed a key point about the CW network. While it's true that their domestic television division never made a net profit, the programs that were created for that network did prove profitable when combining domestic ad revenues with foreign licensing deals for most of the network's history. It's not like the companies that owned it prior to Nexstar were just keeping the network around for the fun of it. They were making money, it's just that profitability relied in a large part on downstream sales of the products they were producing.
Batman adopted so many kids. They couldn't even use one of them instead of inventing some random dude for Gotham Knights?
They probably couldn't use any of them, although I believe that they would still use that random original character even if they could use a few members of the Bat family
my brother and I used to watch the Flash, but we quit a couple episodes into season 4. came back to watch the shows finale. I probably enjoyed watching Cats 2019 more. I got so mad at what the writers did to everyone and everything; it was awful
You are a fake fan than, season 4 was decent and finally not a speedster main villain. After s4 it sucked
@santi_super_stunts2573 idk man I got bored
I will forever be disappointed by wtf the marvel writers were thinking with Secret Invasion. One of the most interesting stories the comics have ever done next to House of M and they went in all the wrong places
Your info is wrong. Mindy Kaling was Velma's executive producer. She was completely responsible for Velma.
You should totally do two lists of Best and Worst Movies of 2023.
I think he doesn't do movies
Jeremy Jahns does ones every year and both his are out now. He and Dylan have pretty different tastes but still fun to watch as a film nerd
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@@LuisSierra42He does, but he primarily does videos about television.
I think this list really shows that you cannot be saved by a really good cast - just another thing showing why you need great writers for a great show!
Secret Invasion will always be my #1 worst this year. Just all the things wrong with Marvel put into one project. I always held out faith after every “bad” project and it just finally broke me.
I just can’t believe they would rip the balls off of Nick Fury by going “yeah you know all that awesome shit he must have done to become the goddamn leader of SHIELD??? Yeah no it was shapeshifting aliens the whole time, turns out NF is just a loser who whines about race oppression even though he’s in one of the most privileged positions a human could hope to be in, and it turns out he didn’t even earn it, he was given it”
Like WHY would they just cuck one of the best human heroes?? What did it serve??
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access all his character development just thrown out the window. And don’t even get me started on the final battle. A CGI fuck fest making little to no sense. Yeah let’s just give her Drax tattoos and Ebony Mals rings. Those are definitely in the DNA of these characters
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access character assassination at it's finest
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access What else did you expect after him losing his eye to a goddamn alien housecat in Captain Marvel?
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo Not a cat, a powerful alien beast.
I am genuinely suprised you never made a video on Robyn Hood. Based on how ridiculous it is, and how it's a CW superhero ish show, it looked right in your wheelhouse.
Great video as always, btw!
ive never heard of Gotham nights before but I think I would've absolutely ate. it. up. as a teenager in my superwholock phase. I watched anything with an "edgy" superhero premise, and Misha collins? jokers daughter, Batmans son? terrible plot? slay, of course, what else does a story need?? 😂😂
What's funny about it is, in some of the comics, Harley and Joker DO have a daughter - but Harley kept her a secret because she feared what Joker would do to the kid. She wanted her daughter to have a normal life away from all the BS and grow up not walking in Joker or Harley's footsteps, which would be a compelling story that this show ignored.
It could have involved Joker's daughter grown up and finding out who her father was, being pulled into their world through someone finding out Harley had a kid, and even involved Damian Wayne cause they'd be about the same age. She and Damian would be contrasted and complementary at the same time, as her parents were villains but she grew up well-adjusted, but Damian's father was Batman and he grew up first in the criminal underworld and then became a hero alongside his dad & adopted brothers, never having lived a normal life. I'd have loved seeing that interaction.
Superwholock… don’t give me flashbacks girlll i still have trauma from that era
Funny, Misha Collins made for a really good Harvey Dent, he was really entertaining to watch. And Olivia Rose Keegan (Joker's Daughter) was also a highlight, she was genuinely funny. They hard carried the show, worth looking up their scenes on RUclips.
@Kaihart Joker’s Daughter is also already a comic character way before that, and despite her last name being Dent, it’s only teased that she might de Two-Face’s kid instead.
@@Future_Vantas Yeah toltally agree. They were the only good things in the show.
Mindy Kaling is the executive producer of Velma. In television the Executive producer has a great deal of creative control, almost like a director in a movie. That's why many TV shows will have different directors from episode to episode, they are more facilitators than visionaries, the executive producer often guides the show. It's not like movies where a producer is mainly a money man. So I do think a lot of the blame is shared between her and the writers.
EDIT: Of course right after I post this I see your comment correcting yourself!
I find it funny that you had to use the Gotham Knights title from the game that came out last year. Because the title for the actual show is a dark font in a black background that you can barely see.
The Weeknd has always had weird and misogynistic lyrics, however the Idol has finally convinced people that he’s weird?
They didn't listen to his early music
When I tell you I CANNOT believe riverdale didn’t make this list
In fairness, the last season was just boring than batshit insanely terrible
Riverdale is at least entertainingly bad
I think riverdale has pretty much completely leaned in to the fact that it's bad and rolls with it. so it would kind of be a wasted spot considering it isn't trying to be good or be received as such in the first place
Shows are disqualified if they make sh*t intentionally
Riverdale is still a guilty pleasure.
Meanwhile watching either The Idol or Secret invasion gives the audience no pleasure only guilt
Euphoria season 3 will land in the honorable mentions for the year. Unless Zendaya gives an absolute tear jerking performance, the season will be forgettable.
She probably will, and yet it will still be forgettable.
Zendaya was great on season two but still the season was bad. No matter how good a performance is, if the overall project is terrible, it will land on the worst lists.
The only thing that could help Euphoria is if Sam finally gets his head out of his ass and hire a writing team.
Mayfair Witches is perhaps my favorite book series since I was a child, and what they did to those books with that show is unforgivable. I implore anyone who has seen the show to understand that it has NOTHING to do with the books. Watching interviews with the show runners of both Mayfair and Interview claiming that they read the books and wanted to "honor" the source material is enraging because they ripped it to shreds, it's unrecognizable character-wise, which is devastating for such character-driven stories.
Yes! I couldn't make it past the 3rd episode.
This. I could not make it past the first episode of either.
Thank you for taking a part of your The Crowded Room commentary to praise Tom Holland. Literally after No Way Home, Tom Holland has been very strangely despised by most of the Chinese Internet, the netizens calling him a shitty actor (attributed to the mediocre projects he's involved in since No Way Home and the convoluted and mediocre writing of No Way Home but I personally defend this for the absolute surprise it would bring to moviegoers that watched it with a packed theatre of audience) and criticizing him as a complete hack compared to Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and even Zendeya. I just hope Tom takes the time to recover and after that, find really good writers and filmmakers that can pull off amazing plots to make his endeavor pay off.
And yeah, you are on the nail about 2023 being what is probably the worst year for superhero media, with projects tanking harder and harder financially one after another and even setting new lows for box office records. The same is applicable to the over quality. Secret Invasion, along with Thor: Love and Thunder, is the one of the most disappointing MCU projects, and probably the last straw for a number of fans who wanted MCU to be good. But still, I really wanted MCU to be back in its glory days before the pandemic and I think they can take their time to figure things out in the right way after the colossal creative mismanagement of Phase 4 & 5. The same goes for DCU, I hope James Gunn will pull this off.
I think most criticism I've seen of Tom Holland have mostly been about his choice of projects rather than his acting. Like most/all celebrities, he has his haters (especially among spiderman fans who favor tobey or andrew), but most people who hate his body of work even praised his acting. From all things I've heard about Chinese netizens, they will hate with no impunity. However, for all the haters yell about NWH, it's still the 2nd highest grossing MCU film in the US and 3rd worldwide.
I agree about the superhero movies/shows though. I think it was too much too fast. It feels like they just wanted to keep cranking out content instead of really taking the time to craft a good story.
@@genericplantlife I agree with you. I think I came across a RUclips video titled Does Tom Holland Need To Fire His Agent? And I think if Tom wants to get the recognition he desires, he needs to shift to new agents that can grant him access to amazing projects with compelling plot and intriguing complex characters.
I think the year 2023, by the way, has solidified the fact that generic, formulaic superhero movies is no longer attracting audiences to go see it. I think it would be fantastic if MCU uses the ending of Loki Season 2 to make things better, rework established events and rework the new characters and their development in the grand scheme of things, I would love it. In addition, MCU needs to dramatically slow down its output of content and really differentiate their significance in the franchise; I think the Marvel Spotlight is a good move to avoid confusion, and I think a lot of Phase 4 TV shows should be under this banner. Deadpool will be the only MCU theatrical release next year and I wish it can be as successful as its predecessors. We’ll see! (Plus, I’m making a video on superhero media like MCU, DC, Sony’s Spider-Man Universe, The Boys and so on; stay tuned)
The worst thing Ive ever heard anyone say about Tom Holland is that he still looks 16 years old when hes like 40. Which actually makes a lot of people envy him.
I can personally attest that looking a lot younger than your age has challenges as well, especially in dating.
@@TheSuperappelflap I see. Oh, maybe he can take a well-written role that looks drastically different from his actual appearance to give the audience a pleasant surprise.
Tom Holland is a mediocre actor. He was mediocre in spider man, he was poor in everything since. Why are we still talking about him?
What’s unfortunate about Velma is the animation quality is very good. The WB animation team deserves better than having their name associated with this turd.
Velma feels like its brimming with hate and spite. It doesn't feel like it was made by people who wanted to tell a fun story and make people laugh
Glad to see another Indira Varma stan in the wild! She's an amazing actress, she always gives it 100% and I am always glad to hear her voice. I am so bummed that she keeps getting these blah roles (looking at you, game of thrones season 5).
Compared to the crap role she had in the Obi Wan Kenobi TV show her role in GoT Season 5 was TV gold. But I'm pretty sure we'll see a lot more of her, considering she's probably a vampire who doesn't age. Seriously, she looks the same now than back when she played Lucy B*tchface in Hustle or that British cop in the London episode of Bones.
@MyRegardsToTheDodo I have completely forgotten that show even existed 😅
First saw her on Torchwood. She is always the best part of anything she's in.
@@phelanii4444 It's one of the shows I clawed my way through, because I kept thinking that with that much talent involved, it has to become good at some point, right? Wrong. That show should have been named Star Wars - Continuity Break.
As for Indira's character in that show, I am pretty sure we were supposed to be on her side, because she's an early joiner of the rebel alliance and all that, but seriously, she's a total psychopath. I mean, she's been serving with her comrades for years by now (she's a commanding officer, so she knows them all), but then she shoots them in the backs like it's nothing? Over somebody who might or might not be a Jedi?
I saw Indira in a recording of the Seagull play and she was so good. I'm going to see her in Macbeth in London with Ralph Fiennes. It's gonna be epic.
ngl, I took great sadistic joy in watching pretty much every media commentary YTer shitting on The Idol this year, couldn’t have happened to a better show
Mindy Kaling telling a story of she straight up violated a man and then said she’d fire him if he blabbed is horrible and I hate the way people gloss over it
Whoa. what's up with the Flash costume? I haven't watched since season 1 but I totally remember the suit look a lot better then! Now it looks like a home made handy craft project for a school play! The material looks so cheap that I'd be afraid to even put it in the washing machine!
With every show listed, I kept cringing that Sex Education would be higher on the list. Season 4, they added characters for representation sake which I normally would be all for. But, they forgot to give them any story or character development. The original characters were as good as ever. But their screen time was cut down. Also, Im hoping the Fred Astaire biopic is great because Tom Holland deserves a non Spiderman hit.
Sex education really suffered from the fact that they did not know that this would be it's final season from the get go.
"they added characters for representation sake which I normally would be all for."
Why would you "normally be all for" adding characters just for the sake of representation? That is so shallow and narrow minded, as well as straight up prejudiced. Should never be accepting of trivial pandering.
Yeah, probably sex Ed s4 wasn't bad enough to be in this list, but it definitely was one of the biggest fall offs of this year, when you compare it to the first 3 seasons
@@Eidolon1andOnly because its the virtue to signal in current year
I don't think I could ever watch Sex Education, because the very idea of Zoomers condescendingly explaining safe sex makes me want to curl into myself and die. And I actually like Gen Z-ers for the most part.
I hope Cruel Summer season 2 gets it's own video! I'm so curious on your thoughts on it since you initially thought it would be a continuation of the first season, and the clips of it in this video got my hopes up lol
Secret invasion hurts. Was fully excited for a throw back to a MCU spy thriller, like Winter Soldier, especially after a overflow of cgi vs cgi character smack down. I don’t understand how they failed THIS bad
I think the list this year really showed that even some absolutely incredible actors can't save something with awful writing. Some of these TV shows have some actors that have amazing work - Secrets Wars has a ton to choose from, Citadel's Richard Madden gave an incredible performance in Bodyguard, and I love most of the cast in Velma - but holy moly they were given absolute messes to work with.
I'm really looking forward to the inevitable documentary about the behind the scenes of The Idol that will tell a far more compelling story than whatever The Idol was trying to tell after it was rewritten into oblivion by a man that should be kept away from young women.
Richard Madden does seem like a good actor but everything hes been in, that I have seen, since GoT is just...bland. He should tell his agents to spice it up a bit.
I'm surprised Cruel Summer season 2 didn't make it at least into the Honorable Mentions. It dragged, the different time levels didn't serve a purpose as they did in season 1, the color grading was jarring and it ended with practically the same notion: second girly = two-faced bad bitch. Also everyone's an asshole, the mother is the only character with good intentions.
Cruel Summer 2 was so disappointing. Season one had better pacing and had few unanswered questions.
I remember I stopped watching season 2 because I just…lost interest. Usually I’m all for a color grade change but I felt the one they chose to be so unflattering. It’s crazy because I loved season 1 but they really dropped the ball with season 2
@@DawnsHuntress I started to skip through the episodes after the third one and it still felt too long. And yeah, I'm all for good color grading, it can provide great visual storytelling, but the vomit green hue just wasn't it.
You could do a top 10 disappointing endings, like not the worst of the year but definitely not the ending those series deserved.
Mine include sex education ,dead to me and ted lasso (no idea if this is controversial). As I watched those shows at your recommendation I would be very interested to see what you thought of the series finale(except sex education cuz i know you already made a video about it).
I LOVE Emilia Clark but my god the woman can't catch a break with shite shows 😂 someone please give her a project that's worth her talent, she's so charismatic and FUNNY why doesn't she get cast in comedic shows ? I don't want the middle few seasons of GOT to be her career high
Yeah, I feel bad for her. Jason Momoa and Pedro Pascal were able to continue getting good roles after GOT
She absolutely deserves to fail, as does everyone who was in Me Before You.
She did well with "Last Christmas".
from what i gather, many people, and this is my personal opinion as well, find her uncharismatic, bland, unlikable, and an average actress at best. negative amounts of screen presence. and she isnt hot enough to make up for it.
she was only cast in GOT because she didnt mind getting naked.
lol I think that's just you
Mindy Kaling: I am south Asian, for the record. I am Madrasi and my family is Tamil and Telugu speaking. I don’t like how brown dudes are never the option for her female leads. They are punchlines and caricatures. It’s upsetting.
That said, all her characters are versions of her. Which is fine, but to have diverse representation without weird personal hang ups, we need more South Asian voices.
Fellow South Asian here (family is from Maharashtra)! I highly agree, there’s already a very limited number of south Asian representation in media and it’s frustrating finding even more limited perspectives on our community. We desperately need more south Asian writers and artists!
Isnt there plenty of that representation in Bollywood? I love cheesy over the top Bollywood action movies.
Asking for more representation in other countries cinema is like me from Europe (not English) complaining there arent enough Germans in Bollywood movies.
I wish they would stop hiring people who hate comic books to write comic book shows/movies/comic books themselves.
6:05 Fun-ish Fact. Obsession is a remake of a 1992 film called Damage starring Jeremy Irons and a young Juliette Binoche.
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Yeah, this is exactly the type of stuff that makes me not like a person.
Talking about sexually assaulting someone, and threatening the witnesses with taking away their jobs, while you can hear the most forced laughter in the background, it just makes me not like you. And I loose absolutely nothing, by not watching any of her projects. I’m just going to pretend she doesn’t exist. Which, at least on a financial standpoint, is the worst thing I could do to her.
Credit where it's due, it really was interesting to watch the CW Batwoman writers use Gotham Knights to double down on basically every fuck up from their original show.
Eric Wallace should be in prison for what he has done to The Flash. If I will Become Green Arrow in Future, I will go to his place and tell him that "You have Failed this show".
Yeah, I am so glad that Dylan called out Eric Wallace for completely ruining the show with his ego. I sincerely hope no studio will ever be stupid enough to hire him in any capacity. I feel so bad for the entire cast, especially Candice Patton, who despite her excellent performance, has been hated and blamed for ruining the show for a decade just because of her portrayal of a badly written character. I hope the entire cast move on to better things after this shitshow; they deserve so much better.
@@TonyTheFriendlyMovieFan Run, Iris, Run was the episode written only by Eric Wallace. Eric Wallace was co showrunner during season 4 and 5. That's why the flash went downhill in these seasons but wasn't bad as later seasons because showrunner was Todd Helbing. I still don't understand who hired Eric Wallace 😭
@@Fast4K I watched seasons 4 and 5 as a teenager, and despite looking back and acknowledging its flaws, it was kinda okay. The point I started to realize something went off with the show is after the "Crisis on Infinite Earths" crossover, when I sensed a drastic change in the show and not in a good way; then we have the last 3 seasons, which are absolute trainwrecks. And that's not mentioning that The Flash has delivered one of the most insulting series finales/final seasons in TV history. I saw the small number of fans who still stick with the show on the Internet and hoped this final season to land ranting with the rage of a thousand suns. In retrospect, episode 10 of season 9 proved to me that Eric Wallace could make the show better and pull off a good final goodbye, but he does not want to; he does not give a single flying fuck about the fans and instead continues to double down his attention on the empty ass characters he created in the DC comics that nobody gives a shit about. A lot have said that Arrow and The Flash are perfect examples for a How (not) To End A Show video, and I agree. With Superman and Lois distancing from the Arrowverse with one of the original showrunners of The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow, one of the few Arrowverse shows I like, got canceled on a cliffhanger because Warner Brothers did not want to pay the rent of the set anymore, this last official season of the franchise ends with a wimp that is just embarrassing. Arrowverse was such a big part of my teenage years but it ended with the sound of wind. Fan-fucking-tastic! I feel bad for the cast of The Flash to act out the absolute atrocity of scripts they were given and I'm glad the show is finally over after almost a decade. Again, hope they all move on to better projects.
@@Fast4KCorrection: the showrunners for S4 were Andrew Kreisberg (who was fired from all WB Television projects in late 2017 due to sexual harassment allegations) and Todd Helbing; Todd was the sole showrunner for S5, after which he stepped down as showrunner, left the show and went to develop Superman & Lois instead. Eric Wallace was showrunner for the last 4 seasons of this show; I would argue that the Bloodwork arc was a fluke for Eric probably because that was a leftover idea from Todd for the Crisis setup.
Kinda surprised to see Crowded room on the list, I enjoyed the show a lot. And the part about the awful reception is a little confusing cuz it literally has 7+ ratings on every single film review website (except for critics' rating on rotten tomatoes, but the audience seems to have loved it)
But thanks for a great video anuways!
CW tv shows are such a disaster. Assuming it doesn’t get cancelled, they can’t end a single show of their own volition without running themselves in circles and driving the story into the ground. They wait until the whole fanbase is begging for the show to die before they end it. (It’s not solely a CW issue, since Grey’s Anatomy is still going, but it’s the only company I can think of that does it with every show.)
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You say Mindy Kahling was not a producer of this show, but she is consistently credited as Executive Producer in the credits on every episode, as well as having her own production company's logo at the end of every episode as well. So no, She wasn't just the voice talent for this one, but did in fact have a much larger hand in its creation. Although the writing is very much Grandy's baby.
Trust me. I had to watch all 10 episodes 4 times to make a video on it....
edit: oh wait you already clarified in a pinned comment lol my bad. Still leaving this comment up tho because I didn't suffer for nothing...
“…just as sure of that fact as I am that fifth harmony was never a good band…” 😭😭😭😭😂😂😂
Calling The Flash s9 was made for pre-schoolers is an insult to pre-schoolers
I am still convinced that the people behind Velma didn't know they were making an animated series. Because otherwise, how did the line "Adults who still watch cartoons" get into it? It would have worked if they had said "children's cartoons" instead, but they didn't. They decided to make fun of their audience which already didn't have good will towards them, for no reason, instead.
I guess they tried for the rick and morty thing of making fun of your own fans
The Flash on CW is a depressing case of shows that lost steam. The first few seasons being 1-4 were entertaining but past those it became rinse and repeat.
You know I really didn’t like secret invasion at all. They took away what made it so good in the comics, once I heard it wasn’t going to be comic accurate, I immediately said yeah this is not going to be good.
you should see/talk about Pennyworth! It's very good and it got canceled after season 3 which was BS. its infuriating to see that there are these awful shows that continue for ages, to have a good show get canceled and unfinished.
Season one was awesome. I wish they hadn't made it have any ties to the Batverse. It hobbled what really could have been an amazing universe of stories. At least it introduced me to Paloma Faith.
I saw the description for Obsession and was not about to even try to watch it. As someone who has been in a relationship with a bit of an age gap, I hate the sensationalization of it and the sexualization of it in the media. It's not that common, and it really shouldn't be, but dang if you're gonna do it, can you show it in an actually interesting and complex way? Not just "Ah age gap", especially when it's between adults.
I think that other show that has a literally illegal age gap relationship being portrayed that blew up online (May December? I also didn't watch it) actually made it complex and made a statement on the power imbalance and the way the younger party was victimized. And it was campy.
Yeah but the main female character in Obsession is hot af
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Exactly the kind of smooth brain response Netflix is hoping will be used to defend their shitty shit so that they don’t have to actually try
Congrats on being part of the problem.
@@LuisSierra42 Meh she looks like Noomi Rapace in Prometheus. Weird British face. If I walk down a street in any continental European country I will see 10 hotter women than that every 100 meters.
@booperdooper2631 and RUclips video essays I guess?
Sex Education was one of the biggest stumbles before the finish line I’ve ever seen and it’s definitely on my list. So disappointing.
I loved season 1, was disappointed with season 2, and gave up on season 3 after only a single episode.
I struggle to think of another show with a more spectacular fall from grace than Sex Education.
@@Golmov_the_WretchedYou didn’t like season 2 ? I think it was awesome as season 1
That applies to Ted Lasso too. What a useless finale season...
@@johanaforever965 I thought season 2 had it's moments, but became very bloated and unfocused. When the show stopped being so centered around Otis and Maeve it lost most the magic that had got me invested in the first place, and the new additions to the cast all annoyed me.
That first epidode of season 3 felt like a parody.
It suffered from the fact that not even those who worked on it knew whether it would have been the final season or not. It's a clear example of studios' greed, with their tendency to try and milk every ounce of content from a show and not letting it end on it's terms but stretching it for as long as possible. Netflix wanted to do 5 seasons despuite two of the main characters, emma Mackey (maeve) and ncuti gatwa (Eric) already made it clear that s4 would have been their last. Looking at s4, it really gave me the impression that the story had nothing more to tell, it was genuinely boring (apart from Adam's and aimee's arcs).
Fear The Walking Dead has always been a mixed bag for me. In my opinion, season 1, 2, 3 and 6 are all at least decent seasons. The first half of season 4 wasn’t too bad either, despite the fact my favourite character had arguably the worst death on the show. 5,7 and 8 are just a complete embarrassment, but I can’t say I didn’t enjoy seeing Troy Otto back for the final few episodes.
100% agree. FTWD was good for S1-3. It wasn't perfect back then and the plots were minimal, but the character writings were 10/10. Everyone has their own internal struggles and all of their actions ultimately led into an ending nobody guessed (in S3 especially). It's also a good move to decide the teenagers were not that dependant to their parents and thus, making rocky relationship among them. In fact, I believed S4 supposedly about Alicia and Nick vs Madison. These two siblings were so good at bonding and leading new group of people. Their mother though, was a straightforward no risk taker. And thus, causing half their problems worsened. S4,5,7,8 were just shit writing and delusional way of living in post apolyptic world per Morgan persuation. S6, is a mix of equally good and bad storytelling. It's a waste potential really. Especially with how amazing acting most the actors could do...
I wish Priyanka Chopra got better projects……she’s such a great actress
She has done so many great films in Bollywood….Bajirao Mastani, barfi, 7 khoon maaf…
She’s basically a legend…and it hurts my soul to see her get treated so badly by Hollywood
She doesn’t fit Hollywood at all.
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@@adegg9616Nah she can fit into it if there was a better team of writers present. She was good in Quantico.
Her agent needs to be fired or something. She's only getting signed for bad shows after bad shows.
Like, who flicking signed her up for that Sharkboy and Lavagirl sequel?
This list is apparently the answer to the question, “where did all the Game of Thrones actors go after the show ended/they were killed off?” which is a shame because a lot of them are really talented.
My ex-housemate's partner loved the Idol (but this is a person who thought men messaging underaged girls 'is harmless') berated me for hating the Idol and kept going on about how much he loved it and then yelled at me when i said "it's been cancelled" as if i had personally cancelled it?
did you report him to the relevant authorities
@@TheSuperappelflap ooooooh yes. yes. Oh, he has been reported (and is being investigated)
My friend made me watch the whole of Velma with him. I truly suffered. Made me question our friendship.
For me, the worst TV show of 2023 was easily Netflix's Queen Cleopatra (2023).
That came out this year?
YUCK HATED THAT SHOWWW
I'm so terrified for their Hannibal project.
@@testest12344 oh no don’t tell me Jada Pinkett Smith is making a Hannibal show 😭
@@jamescarr1265 No, it's Denzel Washington making a movie, but its Netflix at the end of the day, so I have very little faith
FTWD isn't only one of the worst series of 2023, but this show basically did something very unforgivable to FTWD fanbase. The showrunners were literally committed the worst crime possible, REPLACING the main characters. They kicked Madison's actor out of the show in a very unprofessional way and killed Nick in a very dumb way, leaving only Alicia and their main group to be led by the replacement, Morgan. The result? All of the character good writings went out of the window and the plots became redundantly general, boring, and stupid. In case u want to know, Alicia, Victor, Daniel, and Luciana already had the base for their characterization well established. They were all flawed characters with good redeeming quality and they DEFINITELY DID NOT need Morgan to lead them. It's a shame what the showrunners had done to them. The writings were just dumb really.
It's also a shame they forced Alicia's actress to continue with the show despite her having other responsibilities for other shows (work contracts). And the showrunners didn't allow her to leave cause they knew Alicia is the only main reason the majority of their fans are still around. Yes, this was true. The remaining fanbase literally threatened the showrunners to not kill Alicia off in any way. She's the only one who carried the Clark legacy. Until finally at the end of S7, they decided to get Madison's actress back just so an original Clark can replace her. Resulting in S8 became a huge mess with their bad writings. I felt really bad for Kim Dickens and Alycia Debnam Carey honestly.
Fear may very well be the worst scripted television series in American broadcast history, if not the top 5. It is bafflingly, bizarrely awful, I feel like even the author of this video didn't properly describe how fucking bad it is. I'm still pissed I watched all of it. It is easily #2 to me this year next to The Idol, and one of the worst cable shows I've ever bared witness to. Citadel, The Flash, and some of these I'm sure don't even deserve to be in the same league.
Replacing the main character huh? Wonder where I heard that before
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FTWD is so painful because Erickson had a spectacular vision for the show that could've even surpassed the main show. Gimple and the writers should be ashamed because they ran the show to the ground omg.
I really really liked the first 2 seasons of FTWD and Nick is one of my favorite protagonists ever, so that is sad to hear
I had no idea that the flash even ended this year. I used to be really into this series so its a little sad to see it go out like this. I wish more studios could be prepared to let their shows end on a high rather than dragging it out and ending when they had just ran out of steam years ago.
I was literally just watching your 2023 best tv shows waiting for this one 😂
Same fam
I will forever be upset that Fear The Walking Dead fell victim to corporate involvement and decided to make it steer off its original story for the sake of a connected universe.
I felt bad for the actors who invested in their characters from the 1st season, only for it to all be thrown away after season 3 and rebooted.
the premise of gotham knights sounds like a terrible wattpad fanfiction what the hell 😭😭
I loved Never Have I Ever, and i'm so happy I have accidentally avoided every other Mindy Kaling project! it shall be not so accidental in the future 😂
NUMBER 9 OBSESSION
pissed me off. I also clicked into it thinking it was fun thriller. I felt like I was being punished 😭
stop paying for netflix then lol
I have a friend who is a writer who is friends with someone who was one of the story editors for secret invasion, and in 2022, she said the earlier drafts were even worse. She said they were a disaster and made no sense and she had to rewrite a bunch of it to improve it. After seeing the show, all I could think was, "HOW BAD MUST THE EARLY DRAFTS HAVE BEEN FOR THIS TO BE THE IMPROVEMENT!"
It's so annoying how these terrible shows go on and on, yet they cancel good shows like "Raised By Wolves", season one was brilliant sci fi and season two was almost as good. It's pretty pointless getting invested in shows when they can just cancel them at any time.
I don’t know if I remember this correctly but the writers of the flash left after season 1. Which makes sense. Cuz even though S1 isn’t perfect it’s like a masterpiece compared to anything after it. Parts of it were actually really good
I have no idea how the CW never did a buffy reboot.
I hope they never do a reboot on buffy because they will just mess it up
We’re just lucky, I guess.
Huh… I really liked the Crowded Room. And I literally fall asleep halfway through an episode of something I’m not enjoying (I became a dad this year, it’s tiring). I quite liked the slow pace of the show personally and think if they’d rushed it or condensed it into a movie you’d lose a lot of the character study.
Gossip Girl 2022 was such a missed opportunity because they had interesting characters, great fashion, and even a pretty good group of actors. I think the main problem was Joshua Safran from start to end with the fact he refused to improve upon the show and accept valid criticism.
Gossip Girl could’ve been so good! I was really into the aesthetic and fashion, you could tell whoever was in charge of that knew what they were doing. You could also tell the beginning of season 1 was just doing stuff for nostalgia sake but by the end, I could feel the show was finding its footing. I was so excited to hear that Monet would get attention for season 2 because her character is interesting but the whole season just felt so goofy and all over the place :(
i would like to hear your thoughts about Russian doll both season 1 and 2. I finished season 1 and absolutely loved it and was honestly hesitant to watch the second season fearing it would either ruin or add absolutely nothing to the first. After watching it I honestly dont know how to feel and havent seen many people talk about it
I am convinced Citadel is the first show ever written by AI
This video is a perfect example of why I don’t trust when my dad recommends me something. 4/10 shows on this list are things that he has told me are “so good” (The Flash, Fear the Walking Dead, Secret Invasion, Gotham Knights).
Since you showed footage of it for, like, three seconds, I would be interested in your thoughts on Cruel Summer Season Two because to me it did some things better and some things worse. Like, I think it builds characterization a bit more, at least for the main three and maybe the mom, and overall the themes feel more consistent and its big final moment doesn't feel completely out of nowhere (plus I have to give credit to Griffin Gluck for being the Olivia Holt of the season and I'm glad he's escaped Tall Girl), but at the same time the mystery just doesn't feel quite as compelling as the first season and, if season one was too long, this season is definitely too long, I watched it a couple of months ago and there's like two significant moments I remember between episodes three and six. It's also now been cancelled which was a little disappointing since I think the format still has more stories worth telling and I hope at some point we get more, whether directly or through something that takes inspiration from it. Until then though, I would still be curious about your thoughts on it.
"If I am still around in 2029 ..." On RUclips, right? We want you to still be around, even if you're not creating for us to see.