Yes bro PLEASE make a video about what you explained with method 3 about running your own mix... i was thinking about taking the click track n the pad and routing it to the headphones out... and running from the headphone jack str8 into a mixer for the same effect
In a small venue format where you maybe don't want to rely on an underpaid sound engineer, this is my suggestion: Run your backing track on one of the small pads on top (the "true" backing track that contains ambient synths, specifically cued samples, swells, etc... basically stripped of all live instruments/vocals), then on the small pad next to it, run a duplicate of that track but with a click from your DAW. Program the output of the true backing track to the monitor output and the copy with the click to HEADPHONES ONLY. You have the option to link them so when one either one of them is triggered, the other also starts but now only you hear the click. But this will ensure that everything within the interface is in time. PROS: - you can now enhance your set very simply by introducing sounds that are either impossible to time or even just a pain to trigger while playing in real time - In my opinion it's easier than fussing with the timing of the in-unit click track. CONS: - the drummer is solely in charge of following this track, meaning the rest of the band needs to make sure they're following the drummer's cues if there are dynamic "breaks", trickier intros to songs, or softer parts between sections. - it seems lengthy but honestly takes 5 mins to create, export as sample, and program in the SPD-SX. But this has always worked for me smoothly as long as the band rehearses!! haha do not forget to rehearse, kids!
This is exactly what i was thinking. Unless your running a click to multiple people in the band no need to get an external mixer. even then it seems like a headphone amp would me more compact than even a small mixer
Do not need a splitter or a sound guy, there is a subout output on the back, where you can put only click track audio and connect it to the 1st mikser input, signal from roland's phone output goes to the 2nd mikser input, bum signals seperated.
Just purchased this same 3 piece Tama Starclassic B/B Turquoise shatter from a shop in Philly! Love it! Found the video looking to run tracks with the new SPD-SX Pro I just picked up too!!! Cheers!
Cool tutorial, I use a jam hub instead of a mixer. It’s much cheaper and the sound is great. Stereo adapters for stereo mix with every input having full mix control. These are completely portable, one of my old bands did headphone jams for years to save time and money. VKit required... or mic your acoustic kit. I also have a rack headphone amp that will also do the same thing with monitoring. I’m trying to trigger the backing tracks with a boss double foot switch. Click and track linked but it’s giving me issues. Trying to get that going so all the pads are free and click from daw and track starting together with the foot switch. For some reason I can’t them since but they both play independently... working on that. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Pete
Great lesson - I just got a SPD-SX and have just begun my learning curve. I am a drummer over 50 years and this is new for me. Any help would be much appreciated.
Hey Joey! I have several other videos on the SPD-SX. Here's a playlist of all of them. Hope they help! ruclips.net/p/PLBr1VnCd-VUP88IbYeUb1jZ00HTM9XVrd
I have my band cues(panned right) and click track(panned left) so I can use both sub outs and run them into the mixer. The backing track itself exits through the master outs that go to the mixer. Both pads would be linked and boom! Everyone can adjust their mix of band cue, click and backing track. Another method is to use a DAW with your SPD-SX. I have it set up now to play the backing track directly from the DAW. The band cue track is on a pad and is triggered by a MIDI note. I am the only one that hears the click at the moment. I can of course output that from the sub left for example and pan it all the way left. The band cue would be panned all the way to the right. Only down side to it all is hitting the click right on the nose. Practice practice practice :-) I feel that the first method is the best. I have two pads that are linked, like you also mentioned and i am outputting 3 different sounds for the band. I also by the way use the SPD-SX as my monitor amplifier. I throw it into the Audio In and route just to the headphones. On the mixer I drop my Aux's coresponding faders to zero, so the sound isn't doubled. It is unfortunate that you cannot set up a pad to JUST go to Sub out or Master, then my amplifier trick would be even nicer, because then I could actually use my Aux's faders. Nice channel! Cheers!
I know this is an older video, so my input might not be as relevant. The second method I wouldn't have even put in the video...pointless method. 2nd, if you are running vocal cues and a backing track at the same time, why wouldn't you import them as one wavform instead of linking pads? Vocal cues and click panned left and backing track panned right on the import track. I'm sure you are not doing a stereo mix live. That would be unorthodox. Route your click and vocal cues to a headphone amp mixer. So the drummer can turn up what they need. Everyone else can make their own in-ear mix.
Hey! Definitely see your point. A few reasons I still keep them separate: - churches doing live stream feeds might want stereo tracks - having them in one file sometimes leads to a tiny amount of bleed depending on the daw you use - having the click and track on separate pads gives more flexibility for volume and routing from the SPD-SX Again, you can do it in slightly easier ways but I’m a “safe not sorry” kinda planner.
Can you send the output of an individual pad to a sub or aux output, or even the headphones? If so you could use method 3 and send the backing tracks and played percussion to the front of house while sending the click track straight to your own headphone mixer, no need to get the sound guy involved. Or if your not concerned about your stereo image, mix your backing tracks hard left and your click track hard right in your DAW. Then export it an load it all onto one pad. Send your left to the house and your right to your headphone mixer.
Generation Empty yep! You basically have 4 independent mono outputs (main L/R and sub L/R) that you can send any .wavs however you want. The catch with the headphone out is that EVERYTHING you are sending. So even if click is only being sent to headphones, you can’t take out the main and sub sends from headphones. It is a little strange.
Great video Tim, thank you! I'm a new SPD-SX user (and intermediate logic user). At 8:25 you talk about count-ins and how you always provide a count-in for your backing tracks from Logic. Oh how I'd love to see a video on your process for working with content in Logic before it gets to the SPD-SX, including how do you the count ins and how you create click tracks, especially when it comes to audio that is not locked to a a grid or quantized. I looked but didn't see anything in your spd sx playlist, let me know if I missed anything. Thanks!
Craig! You haven't missed anything - that video doesn't yet exist! haha. Maybe it will one day, but in the mean time, I do offer 1-on-1 Zoom lessons if you ever want to dive into this. Happy to show you whatever I can!
Great video - many thanks. I just set this up using the SPD-SX Pro and it is pretty much the same. The only thing I would add on method 2 is that if you use the 'trigger reserve' option (not sure if SPD-SX has this) then it will start the backing track exactly on cue with the next inbuilt click. So as long as your backing track is exactly the right BPM then this makes method 2 a lot better. It also offers the option to using a click for the whole band and perhaps switch between several different loops. I found that I ran the actual backing track from the balanced master so it would be the same volume as my SPD-SX in the front of house mix and then used one of the direct outputs for the in ear mix which i send to our mixing desk for the rest of the band. One question though: Is there anyway to lock the pad when it is 'playing' the backing track. In the options i swapped from 'oneshot' to 'phrase' which means the pad goes from being 'poly' to mono but it still means if you hit it accidentally then you stop the backing track.
Hey Matthias! Glad you liked the video. I have a website timbuellmusic(dot)com you can send me a message from the contact page! Or you can book a lesson right from the “products” section of the site.
Such a great channel. Useful info. You should have way more subscribers. Quality material! I run tracks for live similarly as your last option splitting into two direct boxes with my own mixer. I usually just run off an iPad though
Tim- I'm running tracks and a click... My question- at what point do you pan the backing tracks right and click left? From Garageband? From the pad? Or run everything panned center and pan them from your mixer?
Thank you Tim! Most of my gigs are playing at churches. I typically launch the tracks using Ableton Live. I've been wanting to launch (start & stop) the tracks using a SPD-SX but I'm unfamiliar on how to use/set it up to do so. Instead of Ableton playing the drum loops, I'd like to play the loops on the SPD-SX especially if there are sections where there are no acoustic drums happening. 1. I'd love to see a video on how to work with the sound guy on how to set up the SPD-SX like you mentioned in this video. 2. In-ears on live gigs (outside of church). I typically bring my own small mixer so I can use in-ears. I get an aux feed and use a click which no one else because I'm the only one that has in-ears at the moment. I can never get my in-ear mix right. Do you use a crowd mic plugged into your mixer? So...would love to see a video on how you do that. Wow....that was a long comment.
Love all of this! Great questions. Shoot me an email timbuellmusic(at)gmail. Want to answer these but will take longer than a "comment worth" of text! haha
This is incredibly insightful. It’d be cool to get a lesson about using the different outputs on the SPD SX. Also, is there an input on the SPD SX??? I’m wondering if it’d be possible to run your monitor mix into the unit and then just plug your in-ears into it for your mix.
1. Outputs RUclips video would be great. I might have to do that. 2. There is a 1/4" input on the SPD-SX but there isn't really a way to monitor stuff like you are saying. ALTHOUGH I think buying a cheap ($50 or less) mackie/behringer mixer could accomplish that and they are pretty compact and easy to carry. Might have to do a lesson on that as well...haha.
Yeah I had a feeling. I run a little two channel mixer right now that does the trick but obviously it would have been great to have it all in one unit! Thanks for the speedy response! Just getting into your channel. Love it! SUBBED
Really great video Tim! I did some songs recently with a band and they had some tracks where the stereo right track was the backing ... and the left channel was the click and a 'little' bit of the backing... easy split for headphones and 1 channel for out front. I need to set some tracks up for my band ... would this be an ok method or would you still recommend the pad link way?!!
Kev - panning click left and tracks right will totally work. It does have two limitations: 1) the track can only be "mono" which means you don't get the same fullness and stereo spread at FOH 2) the routing (to me) is a bit less clean. I love the pad link option because you can have stereo tracks and mono click and it gives you a few more options for routing. TL:DR - yeah that'll work, but I would still do the pad link haha
Also, if you link pads 4+5, you also have to change the setting so the output of each pad is different, correct? One was click, one was a sample. Sample goes everywhere but click only goes to monitors or just the drummer. Can you change outputs on each pad? Or would you have to use the onboard click?
Well put, well educated by you Tim Buell and a great lesson as a usual user of this great device. One question, a friend/colleague has backing tracks running from his laptop in case he needs to make alterations on the go. I wanted to link my SPD-SX via midi, so I can plug in my headphones direct rather than using the packs from the engineer because the natural source from Roland is harder, battery from packs can run out too. Also as the second, third track plays the program change will change tempo. Can all of this happen. I mean is there magic in the air? Bless!
Hey Jose! I wouldn't use the Roland SPD-SX as a "monitor source" if that's what you were asking. I would rely on the belt packs. Just make sure you, the monitor engineer, or the tech checks batteries before your set and you should be good!
Nice tutorial Now just one question Whenever you play the Roland pad, or like play along with the beat, how can you pause it? Stop what you're doing for a second and then get back to it?
There is a "stop all sounds" button on the SPD that might give you that option. Depends on what exact sounds you are triggering to make that work well or not.
Hey Tim long time bro. Hope all is well in this pandemic crisis. I have a quick question. How do you add a backing track to the pad, hit it once for start and a second time to stop it? When I add the track and hit it a second time it is overlapping. Thanks in advance.
Hey! All is well here (so far). What you are looking for here is "Trigger Type" and you want to set it to "ALT". As well, make sure the pad is set to "MONO" and not "POLY".
@@TimBuell thanks I appreciate that very much. Does this thing do time stretch where you drop in a click loop you can speed ut up? What a day when Roland make a bigger screen that would display a mini pad that indicates what is in each pad. Or they could make small displays in under each pad that would show the name of what is on each pad. How do you memorize each pads?
Once linking the track, and click pad- are you still able to divert to click pad signal to headphones only? Or are both both going to be going through the same outputs?
nice video broo!!!! I hope to buy a roland very soon!!! please!!!! do a video with some talking about glyn johns technique!! pleasee!!!!!!!! your thoughts and diference!!!!
Great video, helped me decide the 3rd method is the best way to go. Was wondering if it was possible to run a cable from the SPD-SX's headphone output to a headphone amp/distributor (Behringer powerplay 8 channel) to give more members in the band the option to hear the click? Also why is a D.I. box used before going to F.O.H?
Hey Alan! You absolutely could use a headphone amp to send click to other members of the band. Just need the headphone amp and the right headphone cables. DI is to convert the 1/4" output of the SPD-SX to XLR (which most sound boards/snakes need).
@@TimBuell do you know what type of cable would be used to send the headphone signal to a Behringer power play HA8000? Ive tried a TRS patch cable but the headphone signal never came out of the headphone amp
Hey there nice video. Is it possible to just drag a 8 bar percussion loop in the SPD -SX just hit play and it loops it for as long as the band playing? How I do that? I have my 8 bar loops and just wanna use those for my clicks but how do I do this? Hope you are not another channel that doesn`t answer questions.
Small Axe Music Productions there is absolutely a way to do that. And I have a video coming out on it in the next two weeks! Would explain here but probably a little too confusing for one comment. Haha
Is it possible to pad link more then one track? I have a song with a break in it which means I have 2 different backing tracks for the same song and 2 different clicks as well. I'm only able to set up pad 1 with the fs1 and I would like to have the second half of the song on pad 2 with it assigned to fs2. Please let me know if you can help
Hey man, great video. Thank you. In your method number 3, your click track is an “audio file” … Correct ? It’s not resolved to machine control or a sequencer or anything ... it’s kind of running “wild”… As a sample ???
Thank you for all this amazing info! This is really great stuff. I just got a SPD-SX (you're right, that's difficult to say fast) and it's a little overwhelming the possibilities with it. One thing I struggle with is just figuring out what samples to even load onto it and how to start incorporating it into my music. Do you have any advice on this? I typically play set and we'll play jazz, funk, rock, or just jam. I also have another group that I play percussion and we create more chill music but it's just hard to even think of what to put on the pad to add to the sound without overdoing it.
I think it is important to find some samples that inspire you. Then you can go from there as far as jamming to them. If you have a group that you need to incorporate samples with, I always just look for whatever "the gig" needs and find samples that can accomplish that.
@@TimBuell Thank you! I really appreciate it. I'll definitely try to find some samples that inspire me. Do you have a specific site or way to find samples that inspire you?
In your third example with a seperate pad for click track, can you assign the volume knob for the built in click track to the pad that has the click track?
Great stuff! Love the options on the SPD-SX, not super stoked about the controls and menu layout.. 2018 Roland! That being said: Next challenge for me; use method 3, but cut up intro / verse / chorus / bridge / outro and dedicate these to different pads, enabling me to hit pad ‘chorus’ when in let’s say the middle of verse 1, so that by the end of verse 1 track section ‘chorus’ starts! But.. when not hitting the ‘chorus’ pad, the tracks just follows natural order, verse 2 or chorus after verse 1! ..and all of this with countdown cues and spot-on clicktrack! 😃 I believe this is possible, but didn’t invest the right amount of time yet 😉 Do you know if this can be done?? This would be great for worship, spontanious parts, repeating sections etc. Do keep up the good work, love your channel and what you do! 😊👍🏻
Tim, this is because of the time required setting this up in the SPD-SX vs. simply using MIDI and trigger the sections from Ableton? Not used Ableton much, does it have the feature to trigger a chorus halfway a section, starting it after the section playing? So I’ll have to get nerdy with my Ableton-expert buddy, love it 🤓😉 Thanks
Yes! Ableton is SO flexible. You can trigger from your computer keyboard, a MIDI keyboard, a drum pad. And you can jump where ever/when ever you want in a song (if you set up tracks using Arrangement View). I have a whole course on this www.timbuellmusic.com/ableton . The course covers everything from getting started, to setting up tracks, to advanced things like live looping (using live recorded audio) and a ton of other stuff. Over 6 hours of video lessons. Shoot me an email if you have additional questions. Would love to help!
IT WOULD. For that type of experience I would look into Ableton Live. It is my preferred backing tracks method because of the flexibility and control it can give you.
Nice video man. I have One question regarding the last method - is there a way to safeguard against accidentally turning off the backing track by hitting one of the linked up pads by mistake.
@@therealrussellsmyth There is a foot switch and multiple trigger in inputs. Use a foot controlled sub pad so that regardless of what you hit on the spd it wont stop the track
@@grimeshine hi Dom. Thanks for the response. Have you used this method yourself ? So a backing track can be triggered with say a ‘Roland SP One Wav’ via the trigger inputs on back of unit and some onboard rerouting ?
@@therealrussellsmyth correct but with basically no additional routing needed. The additional “kick” input as well as the 2 additional pad inputs are already recognized and set up as their own unique pads, only accessible once the foot pedal is plugged in. It behaves just like the other pads without any additional routing. Let me know if that makes sense.basically that is the “fool proof” industry standard that is being used with the spd
Great Video! Question: are you able to link more than 2 pads? I noticed you linked pad 4-5, are we able to link, for example, 4-6? Only because I run, samples, click, and cues all separately. Also, how many output channels does the console have?
I believe so. There is a way to program the pads for functions and that is likely where you would do it. Feel free to reach out to me on my website and I will email you the step by step if I can find it haha.
Hey Michael! Great question. I don't think there is a way to do this, but I'm not 100% certain. For me I've always made sure to place the tracks on a pad that is furthest away from the pads I use and play the most.
Hi, Great videos. Thx a lot. Is it possible to run and link more then 2 pads, for ex 5 pads and then let them run all together and when you hit pad number 3 it gets muted but is still runs behind? So that when you hit it back it gets unmuted and it still synchro with the other tracks? (I guess not ; ) Sorry for my English Thx. All the best
Hey Tim. Any ideas on how to enable/disable a trigger signal with the SPD-SX? Let's say i want to overlay my snare drum (acoustic snare with a trigger) with an effect but only want the effect to be present in the chorus. Is that possible?
There are a few ways you could do that. What I would do is use a foot switch to switch between different "kits" on the SPD-SX and have one set up with the trigger you want and the other just black. haha. Not that sexy, but it would work.
I just ordered the Boss FS-6 dual foot switch pedal to scroll forward and backwards through kit chains. Do you have to route it any special way into the Roland SPD-SX? I am also using a TRS cable.
I'm not exactly sure about foot pedal (I don't use one myself) but you will probably need to set that up in the MENU > "SYS" and then press ENTER > "PAD/FS CTRL"
Tim Buell Roger that. I’ll mess with it when it comes in the mail. Thanks for the quick response and I really enjoy your videos! Very informative. Especially the Roland SPD-SX stuff.
Great video thanks! If you use method 3 and accidentally hit pad 4/5 when using the rest of the kit, would that stop the backing track? And am I right in thinking you can route the click separately to the headphone out and the rest to front of house? Thanks again
great videos- thank you! is it possible to have 3 separate backing track songs playing one into the next? or is there a lag time to load the next song?
At 10.50 you say you can still use the other pads while the backing tracks are going. Well, on my SPD SX special edition, you can't. The backing track cuts out after some time when I play the other pads. Is it possible that mine is faulty?
Hey! This is actually a pretty common issue. What you can do is make sure all your samples are set to "monophonic" and not "polyphonic" and that "should" take care of the issue. Has to do with how the SPD stacks multiple sounds. Let me know how it goes!
You can send the tracks out the main outputs on the SPD-SX and then only send click through the headphones out. You don't actually need a separate headphone splitter.
Hey Matilda! Great question! You can route whatever pad the click is on to an output that isn't going to FOH. For instance, you can route your pads with tracks and samples to "main out L/R" and then the click track pads route their output to "sub out" or just the headphone output if you want. Hope that makes sense! I'm sure I covered this in one of my SPD-SX videos but I have no idea which one! haha
Great video! thank you. is it also possible to start/stop the on-board clicktrack feature with hitting one of the pads? so i dont have to aim for the small button to stop it? would love some help.
Hey Tim , I would like to know how do you easily have say 10 backing tracks easily recalled for a gig? We play entirely live right now however want to add keys parts to some of our songs. In other words is it easy to recall the various songs on demand. Our set can change on the fly dependant on the crowd. Cheers
If you are running tracks from the SPD-SX, there is something called a "kit chain". You can load each backing track into a kit, and then reorder them using the kit chain. Hope that helps!
@@TimBuell agree kit chains work great if the band sticks to the setlist order. I always write the spd-sx kit number on the set/song list so I can quickly dial in the spd-sd kit number if the band decides to change the order on the fly.
Can you show us what you need to do, brand new out of the box setting up to use the SPDSX. I have the SPD20 and it has all the sounds in it you can't add sounds. I notice the SPDSX has 100 kits the first 16 are presets and the rest are ones you build with what you want. Is that right?
Hey, I use the spdsx the same way, I pad link. My only problem is I send click and track to the headphone output on the machine itself and the track only to main out/mono, however now my band want a feed from the click track but not sure on how or what other tools I need in order to do that? Would a simple headphone splitter do this? I also use a headphone amp just for myself to have closer to my side.
If your headphone amp has multiple outputs, I would just run headphone extensions out of the amp over to your band mates (if I'm understanding your set up correctly).
You can send the one click pad to the headphones and Sub outs. Plug a quarter inch cable from sub out L/mono to your mixer and then they can adjust their Aux Outs.
@@TimBuell yes thanks man, we got that part down and they have what I have now. Our next mission is getting that live feed from stage monitors into this mix!
I run backing tracks that are sampled from my computer into the Roland. Issue is the volume upon striking the pad is all over the place. Too soft or too loud....
Great tutorial Tim, as always. A quick question, i did a click track and a loop in Reaper, then put boths inside the spd, but the thing is i always need to "adjust" the start and end of the wave in the spd and is a little bit painfull and after more or less 12 bars stars to move (also linking the two pads) Any tip? Thanks in advance!
Tato - great question. Sounds like Reaper might be adding a bit of space at the front or end of your clips you are bouncing out. Which, over time, is going to cause sync issues. I'd start by trying to see if you can get that super tight before moving it over to the SPD.
Hi and thank you for your video! I have a question or maybe two ...three :) For this moment I use some program in my iPad to start and stop my backing tracks in that situation I make it like from a stereo backing track I make it in MONO and after that I put in my right side only click. Can you tell me with SPD-SX how is it the situation? Can I leave the backing tracks like stereo and how I can add the click? Hope you understood what I mean :) Regards
I'm on the same way, what do you do to make that the click doesn't sound on the main speakers and just for you, while the backing track sounds for you and the main speakers?
TheJzgames export the track from Pro Tools as a Wav (export the click track as a separate wave file). Load both onto the Roland. “Pad link” the together. I have another video that is more recent that walks you through the whole process.
PAD 1 (Click Track) and PAD 2 (Back Track) linked for running backing tracks. I have set a snare drum in another pad but after rolling so loud it there was a system failure all is delayed and desynchronized. I don't know why. Very sadly if it would happened on a gig. I have the latest 1.08 firmware version... Did you happened it too? For now It happened to me once
I know Alesis and a few other companies make similar products. Reason I recommend Roland is because it really is the "industry standard". I've toured with mine for several years, used it in a ton of situations, and it just keeps working. So even if it is more expensive, the durability and popularity of it make it still the most logical product in the space. Even if you have to save a bit longer for it, I think it will be worth it in the long run. You can also find these used now for pretty cheap if you hunt in the right places and wait for the right deal.
Method #4... make your backing tracks mono and have the track panned one direction and the click panned the other direction. Then you're not eating up two pads for every song.
Very true! If you want to rock mono tracks that is the way to go. Even so, I like having them across two different pads for the ability to control the click/track level independently and have a bit more control with things like that.
Tim Buell my assumption was external control of the levels... But your totally right. Good reason to separate for sure. As for mono... As great as stereo mixes are. So many places still aren’t doing it.
Steve Osborne 100% agree. And I’m of the opinion that the more you give a FOH engineer to remember...the more likely they are to forget! haha Definitely depends on the situation, but mono is the way to go to make things easier and more foolproof.
Can you speed up or slow down the track while playing live? I have a nightmare musical director, with terrible time who thinks the track should follow him, not the other way around. I’m able to accommodate that with my Yamaha DTX MULITI-12 but the onboard memory is a joke. So I’m hoping the SPS-SX Special Edition will be the answer...Please tell me it’s possible!
William White William White no, not with a sample pad. For stuff like that you will def want to use Ableton Live. I have a whole course on that timbuellmusic.com/Ableton. If you have questions shoot me an email. I’d love to help out
Listen, sunshine - please don't start a presentation "with is up with you ...." In England, it is seem as disparaging and condescending. Just try something polite such as hello! In this way you won't get people blocking you or switching to another video of which there are millions OK?
Brilliant - thanks for breaking it down in such an clear, concise way. Feeling enormously relieved right now!
So glad to hear it Sarah!
More videos about this device please!! ❤️
Absolutely! I have posted a few, make sure you check them all out! More to come.
This is SUCH a great, concise, informative video! Not surprised bc TB is posting it, but just needed to say something about how well done this vid is.
Michael - that's very very kind. Glad you dig it.
Yes bro PLEASE make a video about what you explained with method 3 about running your own mix... i was thinking about taking the click track n the pad and routing it to the headphones out... and running from the headphone jack str8 into a mixer for the same effect
In a small venue format where you maybe don't want to rely on an underpaid sound engineer, this is my suggestion:
Run your backing track on one of the small pads on top (the "true" backing track that contains ambient synths, specifically cued samples, swells, etc... basically stripped of all live instruments/vocals), then on the small pad next to it, run a duplicate of that track but with a click from your DAW. Program the output of the true backing track to the monitor output and the copy with the click to HEADPHONES ONLY. You have the option to link them so when one either one of them is triggered, the other also starts but now only you hear the click. But this will ensure that everything within the interface is in time.
PROS:
- you can now enhance your set very simply by introducing sounds that are either impossible to time or even just a pain to trigger while playing in real time
- In my opinion it's easier than fussing with the timing of the in-unit click track.
CONS:
- the drummer is solely in charge of following this track, meaning the rest of the band needs to make sure they're following the drummer's cues if there are dynamic "breaks", trickier intros to songs, or softer parts between sections.
- it seems lengthy but honestly takes 5 mins to create, export as sample, and program in the SPD-SX.
But this has always worked for me smoothly as long as the band rehearses!! haha do not forget to rehearse, kids!
This is exactly what i was thinking. Unless your running a click to multiple people in the band no need to get an external mixer. even then it seems like a headphone amp would me more compact than even a small mixer
Do not need a splitter or a sound guy, there is a subout output on the back, where you can put only click track audio and connect it to the 1st mikser input, signal from roland's phone output goes to the 2nd mikser input, bum signals seperated.
Just purchased this same 3 piece Tama Starclassic B/B Turquoise shatter from a shop in Philly! Love it! Found the video looking to run tracks with the new SPD-SX Pro I just picked up too!!! Cheers!
I like how your t-shirt matches your drum kit
haha I do what I can.
I own that drum kit also in a 6 piece!! Nice!!
Cool tutorial, I use a jam hub instead of a mixer. It’s much cheaper and the sound is great. Stereo adapters for stereo mix with every input having full mix control. These are completely portable, one of my old bands did headphone jams for years to save time and money. VKit required... or mic your acoustic kit.
I also have a rack headphone amp that will also do the same thing with monitoring.
I’m trying to trigger the backing tracks with a boss double foot switch. Click and track linked but it’s giving me issues. Trying to get that going so all the pads are free and click from daw and track starting together with the foot switch. For some reason I can’t them since but they both play independently... working on that.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Pete
That was helpful. I do need 2 add some more sounds like the drum sound intro' 2 Prince's songs like When Doves Cry & Computer Blue, just 2 name a few.
Great lesson - I just got a SPD-SX and have just begun my learning curve. I am a drummer over 50 years and this is new for me. Any help would be much appreciated.
Hey Joey! I have several other videos on the SPD-SX. Here's a playlist of all of them. Hope they help!
ruclips.net/p/PLBr1VnCd-VUP88IbYeUb1jZ00HTM9XVrd
@@TimBuell WOW, thank you for the fast reply - I will check them all out...Thanks again
I have my band cues(panned right) and click track(panned left) so I can use both sub outs and run them into the mixer. The backing track itself exits through the master outs that go to the mixer. Both pads would be linked and boom! Everyone can adjust their mix of band cue, click and backing track.
Another method is to use a DAW with your SPD-SX. I have it set up now to play the backing track directly from the DAW. The band cue track is on a pad and is triggered by a MIDI note. I am the only one that hears the click at the moment. I can of course output that from the sub left for example and pan it all the way left. The band cue would be panned all the way to the right. Only down side to it all is hitting the click right on the nose. Practice practice practice :-)
I feel that the first method is the best. I have two pads that are linked, like you also mentioned and i am outputting 3 different sounds for the band.
I also by the way use the SPD-SX as my monitor amplifier. I throw it into the Audio In and route just to the headphones. On the mixer I drop my Aux's coresponding faders to zero, so the sound isn't doubled. It is unfortunate that you cannot set up a pad to JUST go to Sub out or Master, then my amplifier trick would be even nicer, because then I could actually use my Aux's faders.
Nice channel! Cheers!
Good info! Yes, I typically run tracks using Ableton Live. I have a whole course on it actually. Ableton is THE BEST - so powerful and so flexible.
i use reaper. i have written quite a bit of scripts that automate tons of stuff 😃
I know this is an older video, so my input might not be as relevant. The second method I wouldn't have even put in the video...pointless method. 2nd, if you are running vocal cues and a backing track at the same time, why wouldn't you import them as one wavform instead of linking pads? Vocal cues and click panned left and backing track panned right on the import track. I'm sure you are not doing a stereo mix live. That would be unorthodox. Route your click and vocal cues to a headphone amp mixer. So the drummer can turn up what they need. Everyone else can make their own in-ear mix.
Hey! Definitely see your point. A few reasons I still keep them separate:
- churches doing live stream feeds might want stereo tracks
- having them in one file sometimes leads to a tiny amount of bleed depending on the daw you use
- having the click and track on separate pads gives more flexibility for volume and routing from the SPD-SX
Again, you can do it in slightly easier ways but I’m a “safe not sorry” kinda planner.
Very good walk through on the possibilities of this piece of gear.
You are a Very good teacher of this device!
Thanks so much Bob!
So helpful. Gentleman
Super useful video Tim. Thank you!
You kick ass, Tim. Thank you.
Can you send the output of an individual pad to a sub or aux output, or even the headphones? If so you could use method 3 and send the backing tracks and played percussion to the front of house while sending the click track straight to your own headphone mixer, no need to get the sound guy involved. Or if your not concerned about your stereo image, mix your backing tracks hard left and your click track hard right in your DAW. Then export it an load it all onto one pad. Send your left to the house and your right to your headphone mixer.
Generation Empty yep! You basically have 4 independent mono outputs (main L/R and sub L/R) that you can send any .wavs however you want. The catch with the headphone out is that EVERYTHING you are sending. So even if click is only being sent to headphones, you can’t take out the main and sub sends from headphones. It is a little strange.
Great stuff Tim!!!
Great video Tim, thank you! I'm a new SPD-SX user (and intermediate logic user). At 8:25 you talk about count-ins and how you always provide a count-in for your backing tracks from Logic. Oh how I'd love to see a video on your process for working with content in Logic before it gets to the SPD-SX, including how do you the count ins and how you create click tracks, especially when it comes to audio that is not locked to a a grid or quantized. I looked but didn't see anything in your spd sx playlist, let me know if I missed anything. Thanks!
Craig! You haven't missed anything - that video doesn't yet exist! haha. Maybe it will one day, but in the mean time, I do offer 1-on-1 Zoom lessons if you ever want to dive into this. Happy to show you whatever I can!
The original song that you recorded must be recorded to a click/the tempo of the song for this method to work.
Great video - many thanks. I just set this up using the SPD-SX Pro and it is pretty much the same. The only thing I would add on method 2 is that if you use the 'trigger reserve' option (not sure if SPD-SX has this) then it will start the backing track exactly on cue with the next inbuilt click. So as long as your backing track is exactly the right BPM then this makes method 2 a lot better. It also offers the option to using a click for the whole band and perhaps switch between several different loops. I found that I ran the actual backing track from the balanced master so it would be the same volume as my SPD-SX in the front of house mix and then used one of the direct outputs for the in ear mix which i send to our mixing desk for the rest of the band. One question though: Is there anyway to lock the pad when it is 'playing' the backing track. In the options i swapped from 'oneshot' to 'phrase' which means the pad goes from being 'poly' to mono but it still means if you hit it accidentally then you stop the backing track.
Dude, great video. how would a lad go about contacting you one on one for a zoom lesson on this topic further?
Hey Matthias! Glad you liked the video. I have a website timbuellmusic(dot)com you can send me a message from the contact page! Or you can book a lesson right from the “products” section of the site.
Very good and funny videos bring a great sense of entertainment!
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it.
Such a great channel. Useful info. You should have way more subscribers. Quality material!
I run tracks for live similarly as your last option splitting into two direct boxes with my own mixer. I usually just run off an iPad though
tdrum21 iPad will work too! And thanks for the kind words.
Tim- I'm running tracks and a click... My question- at what point do you pan the backing tracks right and click left? From Garageband? From the pad? Or run everything panned center and pan them from your mixer?
Thank you Tim! Most of my gigs are playing at churches. I typically launch the tracks using Ableton Live. I've been wanting to launch (start & stop) the tracks using a SPD-SX but I'm unfamiliar on how to use/set it up to do so. Instead of Ableton playing the drum loops, I'd like to play the loops on the SPD-SX especially if there are sections where there are no acoustic drums happening. 1. I'd love to see a video on how to work with the sound guy on how to set up the SPD-SX like you mentioned in this video. 2. In-ears on live gigs (outside of church). I typically bring my own small mixer so I can use in-ears. I get an aux feed and use a click which no one else because I'm the only one that has in-ears at the moment. I can never get my in-ear mix right. Do you use a crowd mic plugged into your mixer? So...would love to see a video on how you do that. Wow....that was a long comment.
Love all of this! Great questions. Shoot me an email timbuellmusic(at)gmail. Want to answer these but will take longer than a "comment worth" of text! haha
This is incredibly insightful. It’d be cool to get a lesson about using the different outputs on the SPD SX. Also, is there an input on the SPD SX??? I’m wondering if it’d be possible to run your monitor mix into the unit and then just plug your in-ears into it for your mix.
1. Outputs RUclips video would be great. I might have to do that. 2. There is a 1/4" input on the SPD-SX but there isn't really a way to monitor stuff like you are saying. ALTHOUGH I think buying a cheap ($50 or less) mackie/behringer mixer could accomplish that and they are pretty compact and easy to carry. Might have to do a lesson on that as well...haha.
Yeah I had a feeling. I run a little two channel mixer right now that does the trick but obviously it would have been great to have it all in one unit! Thanks for the speedy response! Just getting into your channel. Love it! SUBBED
Can you make a video, on how to make your click tracks in logic?
Really great video Tim! I did some songs recently with a band and they had some tracks where the stereo right track was the backing ... and the left channel was the click and a 'little' bit of the backing... easy split for headphones and 1 channel for out front. I need to set some tracks up for my band ... would this be an ok method or would you still recommend the pad link way?!!
Kev - panning click left and tracks right will totally work. It does have two limitations: 1) the track can only be "mono" which means you don't get the same fullness and stereo spread at FOH 2) the routing (to me) is a bit less clean.
I love the pad link option because you can have stereo tracks and mono click and it gives you a few more options for routing.
TL:DR - yeah that'll work, but I would still do the pad link haha
Also, if you link pads 4+5, you also have to change the setting so the output of each pad is different, correct? One was click, one was a sample. Sample goes everywhere but click only goes to monitors or just the drummer. Can you change outputs on each pad? Or would you have to use the onboard click?
Michael - if you link the pads you just have to (like you said) tell each pad what outputs to go to.
Awesome Video!!! What’s your thought on the new SPD-SX SPECIAL EDITION??
Hello, I’m just getting into electronic drumming and not sure what to purchase. I play acoustic drums on a worship team also on a. Cover band
You can probably find a used SPD-SX for a great deal
Well put, well educated by you Tim Buell and a great lesson as a usual user of this great device. One question, a friend/colleague has backing tracks running from his laptop in case he needs to make alterations on the go. I wanted to link my SPD-SX via midi, so I can plug in my headphones direct rather than using the packs from the engineer because the natural source from Roland is harder, battery from packs can run out too. Also as the second, third track plays the program change will change tempo. Can all of this happen. I mean is there magic in the air? Bless!
Hey Jose! I wouldn't use the Roland SPD-SX as a "monitor source" if that's what you were asking. I would rely on the belt packs. Just make sure you, the monitor engineer, or the tech checks batteries before your set and you should be good!
Nice tutorial Now just one question Whenever you play the Roland pad, or like play along with the beat, how can you pause it? Stop what you're doing for a second and then get back to it?
There is a "stop all sounds" button on the SPD that might give you that option. Depends on what exact sounds you are triggering to make that work well or not.
Hey Tim long time bro. Hope all is well in this pandemic crisis. I have a quick question. How do you add a backing track to the pad, hit it once for start and a second time to stop it? When I add the track and hit it a second time it is overlapping. Thanks in advance.
Hey! All is well here (so far). What you are looking for here is "Trigger Type" and you want to set it to "ALT". As well, make sure the pad is set to "MONO" and not "POLY".
@@TimBuell thanks I appreciate that very much. Does this thing do time stretch where you drop in a click loop you can speed ut up? What a day when Roland make a bigger screen that would display a mini pad that indicates what is in each pad. Or they could make small displays in under each pad that would show the name of what is on each pad. How do you memorize each pads?
Once linking the track, and click pad- are you still able to divert to click pad signal to headphones only? Or are both both going to be going through the same outputs?
nice video broo!!!!
I hope to buy a roland very soon!!!
please!!!! do a video with some talking about glyn johns technique!! pleasee!!!!!!!! your thoughts and diference!!!!
jhon ortiz never tried it. This would be a good video!
Great video, helped me decide the 3rd method is the best way to go.
Was wondering if it was possible to run a cable from the SPD-SX's headphone output to a headphone amp/distributor (Behringer powerplay 8 channel) to give more members in the band the option to hear the click?
Also why is a D.I. box used before going to F.O.H?
Hey Alan! You absolutely could use a headphone amp to send click to other members of the band. Just need the headphone amp and the right headphone cables. DI is to convert the 1/4" output of the SPD-SX to XLR (which most sound boards/snakes need).
@@TimBuell do you know what type of cable would be used to send the headphone signal to a Behringer power play HA8000?
Ive tried a TRS patch cable but the headphone signal never came out of the headphone amp
Hey there nice video. Is it possible to just drag a 8 bar percussion loop in the SPD -SX just hit play and it loops it for as long as the band playing? How I do that? I have my 8 bar loops and just wanna use those for my clicks but how do I do this? Hope you are not another channel that doesn`t answer questions.
Small Axe Music Productions there is absolutely a way to do that. And I have a video coming out on it in the next two weeks! Would explain here but probably a little too confusing for one comment. Haha
@@TimBuell Ok looking forward.
nice as tama kit
Thanks so much! Had it since I was 16. The first "pro" kit I ever purchased.
Is it possible to pad link more then one track? I have a song with a break in it which means I have 2 different backing tracks for the same song and 2 different clicks as well. I'm only able to set up pad 1 with the fs1 and I would like to have the second half of the song on pad 2 with it assigned to fs2. Please let me know if you can help
Hey! I believe you can only link 1 pad to 1 other pad. So in your instance you'd have to take up 4 pads, two for one track, two for the other.
Hey man, great video. Thank you. In your method number 3, your click track is an “audio file” … Correct ? It’s not resolved to machine control or a sequencer or anything ... it’s kind of running “wild”… As a sample ???
That is correct! It is a stand-alone sample I loaded in that syncs with the track audio file.
Thank you for all this amazing info! This is really great stuff. I just got a SPD-SX (you're right, that's difficult to say fast) and it's a little overwhelming the possibilities with it. One thing I struggle with is just figuring out what samples to even load onto it and how to start incorporating it into my music. Do you have any advice on this? I typically play set and we'll play jazz, funk, rock, or just jam. I also have another group that I play percussion and we create more chill music but it's just hard to even think of what to put on the pad to add to the sound without overdoing it.
I think it is important to find some samples that inspire you. Then you can go from there as far as jamming to them. If you have a group that you need to incorporate samples with, I always just look for whatever "the gig" needs and find samples that can accomplish that.
@@TimBuell Thank you! I really appreciate it. I'll definitely try to find some samples that inspire me. Do you have a specific site or way to find samples that inspire you?
@@kevinsticht iwantthatsound(dot)com makes great stuff. They have a bunch of free samples you can download as well.
Is there a track time limit on each pad? Say you wanted all the samples from one song on one pad.
I don't believe there is.
In your third example with a seperate pad for click track, can you assign the volume knob for the built in click track to the pad that has the click track?
That is a great question. I'm almost positive you can't. That would be sweet though!
Great stuff! Love the options on the SPD-SX, not super stoked about the controls and menu layout.. 2018 Roland!
That being said: Next challenge for me; use method 3, but cut up intro / verse / chorus / bridge / outro and dedicate these to different pads, enabling me to hit pad ‘chorus’ when in let’s say the middle of verse 1, so that by the end of verse 1 track section ‘chorus’ starts!
But.. when not hitting the ‘chorus’ pad, the tracks just follows natural order, verse 2 or chorus after verse 1! ..and all of this with countdown cues and spot-on clicktrack! 😃
I believe this is possible, but didn’t invest the right amount of time yet 😉
Do you know if this can be done??
This would be great for worship, spontanious parts, repeating sections etc.
Do keep up the good work, love your channel and what you do! 😊👍🏻
Hey Ron! If I were going to run tracks like that. I would use Ableton Live and a computer. That’s just me though!
Tim, this is because of the time required setting this up in the SPD-SX vs. simply using MIDI and trigger the sections from Ableton?
Not used Ableton much, does it have the feature to trigger a chorus halfway a section, starting it after the section playing?
So I’ll have to get nerdy with my Ableton-expert buddy, love it 🤓😉
Thanks
Yes! Ableton is SO flexible. You can trigger from your computer keyboard, a MIDI keyboard, a drum pad. And you can jump where ever/when ever you want in a song (if you set up tracks using Arrangement View). I have a whole course on this www.timbuellmusic.com/ableton . The course covers everything from getting started, to setting up tracks, to advanced things like live looping (using live recorded audio) and a ton of other stuff. Over 6 hours of video lessons. Shoot me an email if you have additional questions. Would love to help!
With method 2 it would be cool if you could live quantize the pad
IT WOULD. For that type of experience I would look into Ableton Live. It is my preferred backing tracks method because of the flexibility and control it can give you.
Hi, how to run backing tracks and click track on roland spd sx pro inclusive a total stop pad
R2D2 on his shirt looks like the drum-tower to his left... beep-boop... **lol**
hahaha. Gotta love R2.
Nice video man. I have One question regarding the last method - is there a way to safeguard against accidentally turning off the backing track by hitting one of the linked up pads by mistake.
I don't believe so. Sorry!
@@TimBuell woah. Was gonna buy it but that’s a bit of a deal breaker for me. It could EASILY happen
@@therealrussellsmyth There is a foot switch and multiple trigger in inputs. Use a foot controlled sub pad so that regardless of what you hit on the spd it wont stop the track
@@grimeshine hi Dom. Thanks for the response. Have you used this method yourself ?
So a backing track can be triggered with say a ‘Roland SP One Wav’ via the trigger inputs on back of unit and some onboard rerouting ?
@@therealrussellsmyth correct but with basically no additional routing needed. The additional “kick” input as well as the 2 additional pad inputs are already recognized and set up as their own unique pads, only accessible once the foot pedal is plugged in. It behaves just like the other pads without any additional routing.
Let me know if that makes sense.basically that is the “fool proof” industry standard that is being used with the spd
I wonder if you can take click track from pad 5 and rout it to headphones then the drummer is only one who hears it.Great vid.
Great Video!
Question: are you able to link more than 2 pads? I noticed you linked pad 4-5, are we able to link, for example, 4-6? Only because I run, samples, click, and cues all separately.
Also, how many output channels does the console have?
Hi Tim. Is there a way to start the onboard click from any of the pads?
I believe so. There is a way to program the pads for functions and that is likely where you would do it. Feel free to reach out to me on my website and I will email you the step by step if I can find it haha.
Could i start, and stop a click, and or, backing track with a footswitch, as an option, instead of hitting the pad?
hey man, solid tutorial! Do you have a way to lock a pad while playing so it can't get hit by mistake, thereby stopping the backing track mid-song?
Hey Michael! Great question. I don't think there is a way to do this, but I'm not 100% certain.
For me I've always made sure to place the tracks on a pad that is furthest away from the pads I use and play the most.
@@TimBuell word, likewise. I also just thought of cranking the sensitivity way down on that pad to make it harder to hit
can i change kit after the backing track pad has been struck without it muting, in order do have all pads for samples?
Hi,
Great videos. Thx a lot.
Is it possible to run and link more then 2 pads, for ex 5 pads and then let them run all together and when you hit pad number 3 it gets muted but is still runs behind? So that when you hit it back it gets unmuted and it still synchro with the other tracks? (I guess not ; )
Sorry for my English
Thx. All the best
I don't believe so. You can only "link" two pads but depending on the settings they can be set up to mute other pads if you want.
Hey Tim. Any ideas on how to enable/disable a trigger signal with the SPD-SX? Let's say i want to overlay my snare drum (acoustic snare with a trigger) with an effect but only want the effect to be present in the chorus. Is that possible?
There are a few ways you could do that. What I would do is use a foot switch to switch between different "kits" on the SPD-SX and have one set up with the trigger you want and the other just black. haha. Not that sexy, but it would work.
I just ordered the Boss FS-6 dual foot switch pedal to scroll forward and backwards through kit chains. Do you have to route it any special way into the Roland SPD-SX? I am also using a TRS cable.
I'm not exactly sure about foot pedal (I don't use one myself) but you will probably need to set that up in the MENU > "SYS" and then press ENTER > "PAD/FS CTRL"
Tim Buell
Roger that. I’ll mess with it when it comes in the mail. Thanks for the quick response and I really enjoy your videos! Very informative. Especially the Roland SPD-SX stuff.
Great video thanks! If you use method 3 and accidentally hit pad 4/5 when using the rest of the kit, would that stop the backing track? And am I right in thinking you can route the click separately to the headphone out and the rest to front of house? Thanks again
For some reason when I route my click to Phones only, I still hear the click out of the main outputs. Any reason why this bleed happens?
Are you using the internal click on-board the roland or a click from a .wav file you imported to the SPD?
great videos- thank you! is it possible to have 3 separate backing track songs playing one into the next? or is there a lag time to load the next song?
If you wanted to do that you could make one long file and load it onto the pad. Or just switch really quickly between patches.
@@TimBuell thanks! -
@@bshubo Thank YOU!
At 10.50 you say you can still use the other pads while the backing tracks are going. Well, on my SPD SX special edition, you can't. The backing track cuts out after some time when I play the other pads. Is it possible that mine is faulty?
Hey! This is actually a pretty common issue. What you can do is make sure all your samples are set to "monophonic" and not "polyphonic" and that "should" take care of the issue. Has to do with how the SPD stacks multiple sounds.
Let me know how it goes!
how do you use splitter to separate click from track? what splitter would you recommend? tell please more about this or give link. thanks
You can send the tracks out the main outputs on the SPD-SX and then only send click through the headphones out. You don't actually need a separate headphone splitter.
If you’re running a click that’s been uploaded as a track, how do you split that out of the mix to FOH?
Hey Matilda! Great question!
You can route whatever pad the click is on to an output that isn't going to FOH. For instance, you can route your pads with tracks and samples to "main out L/R" and then the click track pads route their output to "sub out" or just the headphone output if you want.
Hope that makes sense! I'm sure I covered this in one of my SPD-SX videos but I have no idea which one! haha
Nice channel! Thanks!
Thanks so much! Doing what I can. haha
Great video! thank you. is it also possible to start/stop the on-board clicktrack feature with hitting one of the pads? so i dont have to aim for the small button to stop it? would love some help.
Hey Tim , I would like to know how do you easily have say 10 backing tracks easily recalled for a gig? We play entirely live right now however want to add keys parts to some of our songs. In other words is it easy to recall the various songs on demand. Our set can change on the fly dependant on the crowd. Cheers
If you are running tracks from the SPD-SX, there is something called a "kit chain". You can load each backing track into a kit, and then reorder them using the kit chain.
Hope that helps!
@@TimBuell agree kit chains work great if the band sticks to the setlist order. I always write the spd-sx kit number on the set/song list so I can quickly dial in the spd-sd kit number if the band decides to change the order on the fly.
@@byCampo Smart! Always have to be prepared for the hail mary haha
Can you show us what you need to do, brand new out of the box setting up to use the SPDSX. I have the SPD20 and it has all the sounds in it you can't add sounds. I notice the SPDSX has 100 kits the first 16 are presets and the rest are ones you build with what you want. Is that right?
The manual is your best friend
Hey, I use the spdsx the same way, I pad link. My only problem is I send click and track to the headphone output on the machine itself and the track only to main out/mono, however now my band want a feed from the click track but not sure on how or what other tools I need in order to do that? Would a simple headphone splitter do this? I also use a headphone amp just for myself to have closer to my side.
If your headphone amp has multiple outputs, I would just run headphone extensions out of the amp over to your band mates (if I'm understanding your set up correctly).
You can send the one click pad to the headphones and Sub outs. Plug a quarter inch cable from sub out L/mono to your mixer and then they can adjust their Aux Outs.
@@TimBuell yes thanks man, we got that part down and they have what I have now. Our next mission is getting that live feed from stage monitors into this mix!
I run backing tracks that are sampled from my computer into the Roland. Issue is the volume upon striking the pad is all over the place. Too soft or too loud....
Just turn the velocity or “dynamics” OFF on the pad so every hit produces the same volume...
Great tutorial Tim, as always. A quick question, i did a click track and a loop in Reaper, then put boths inside the spd, but the thing is i always need to "adjust" the start and end of the wave in the spd and is a little bit painfull and after more or less 12 bars stars to move (also linking the two pads) Any tip? Thanks in advance!
Tato - great question. Sounds like Reaper might be adding a bit of space at the front or end of your clips you are bouncing out. Which, over time, is going to cause sync issues. I'd start by trying to see if you can get that super tight before moving it over to the SPD.
@@TimBuell yes i´ll try this, thanks for the answer!
Hi and thank you for your video! I have a question or maybe two ...three :) For this moment I use some program in my iPad to start and stop my backing tracks in that situation I make it like from a stereo backing track I make it in MONO and after that I put in my right side only click. Can you tell me with SPD-SX how is it the situation? Can I leave the backing tracks like stereo and how I can add the click? Hope you understood what I mean :) Regards
I'm on the same way, what do you do to make that the click doesn't sound on the main speakers and just for you, while the backing track sounds for you and the main speakers?
How to use a backing track from Pro-tools to the Roland SPD-SX?
TheJzgames export the track from Pro Tools as a Wav (export the click track as a separate wave file). Load both onto the Roland. “Pad link” the together. I have another video that is more recent that walks you through the whole process.
Left another comment on another vid but this solved my question. Thanks!
Awesome! Glad to have helped! Let me know if you have any other questions in the future.
Could you use a pedal like the boss fs5l to start tracks?
jordan bailey I believe so. But I can’t promise you that as I haven’t tried it.
PAD 1 (Click Track) and PAD 2 (Back Track) linked for running backing tracks. I have set a snare drum in another pad but after rolling so loud it there was a system failure all is delayed and desynchronized. I don't know why. Very sadly if it would happened on a gig. I have the latest 1.08 firmware version... Did you happened it too?
For now It happened to me once
is it possible to skip a kit with a footwsitch and start it (like the BOSS FS-5L)
Yep! I'll eventually make a video showing how to do it.
Hey man! How are you creating your count off click tracks?
Hey! I build them in Pro Tools/Logic and then export from there.
So what is the delay time before you can use the samples after triggering pad4 or 5 ?
There is none (to my knowledge)!
Tim Buell cool so before I spend 15k on the SPD-SX why the Roland ? Why not the Yam Multi 12 ?
Great video thank you 🙏😊
Any other alternative for spd sx, it's kinda pricey
I know Alesis and a few other companies make similar products. Reason I recommend Roland is because it really is the "industry standard". I've toured with mine for several years, used it in a ton of situations, and it just keeps working. So even if it is more expensive, the durability and popularity of it make it still the most logical product in the space. Even if you have to save a bit longer for it, I think it will be worth it in the long run.
You can also find these used now for pretty cheap if you hunt in the right places and wait for the right deal.
@@TimBuell I think I'll just wait it out and save more. Thanks for the feedback!
Method #4... make your backing tracks mono and have the track panned one direction and the click panned the other direction. Then you're not eating up two pads for every song.
Very true! If you want to rock mono tracks that is the way to go. Even so, I like having them across two different pads for the ability to control the click/track level independently and have a bit more control with things like that.
Tim Buell my assumption was external control of the levels... But your totally right. Good reason to separate for sure. As for mono... As great as stereo mixes are. So many places still aren’t doing it.
Steve Osborne 100% agree. And I’m of the opinion that the more you give a FOH engineer to remember...the more likely they are to forget! haha Definitely depends on the situation, but mono is the way to go to make things easier and more foolproof.
How can we do live looping with SPD sx?
Do you mean using the live sampling feature for the SPD? I'm not super well-versed in that area as I mainly just fire backing tracks off of it.
... Or do I even have to worry about that, because I routed click to the sub out and the tracks to the master out.
If you routed them to separate outputs you should be good!
Great lesson! Every time i hit one loop the other one stops, How can i use 2 waves at the same time?
Wow
Hopefully that's a good "wow"! haha. Either way, thanks for watching.
Can you speed up or slow down the track while playing live? I have a nightmare musical director, with terrible time who thinks the track should follow him, not the other way around. I’m able to accommodate that with my Yamaha DTX MULITI-12 but the onboard memory is a joke. So I’m hoping the SPS-SX Special Edition will be the answer...Please tell me it’s possible!
William White William White no, not with a sample pad. For stuff like that you will def want to use Ableton Live. I have a whole course on that timbuellmusic.com/Ableton. If you have questions shoot me an email. I’d love to help out
missed a key detail bro. how do you send click and track to separate outs in method 3........most important
I have other videos on SPD-SX that covers that. Hard to cover the "in-depth" stuff in every video without people getting bored! haha
0:50 SPEED SEX just say it. A company who names their synthesizers after Roman gods and goddesses oh come on.
No worries one of my mate still call it espeedi sex till now
Listen, sunshine - please don't start a presentation "with is up with you ...." In England, it is seem as disparaging and condescending. Just try something polite such as hello! In this way you won't get people blocking you or switching to another video of which there are millions OK?
OK boomer...
Dry mouth
Might've set the compressor threshold a little too low.