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Drop Shots Suck! The Facts Are Undeniable!
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2023
- Drop shots are known as a great bass fishing technique but that doesn’t cure the problems they create. Here’s why they suck!!
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I was born and raised in Chicago, but after working 12 years in the financial Industry regulating the futures and options markets at the CME/CBOT I decided to pursue my passion fishing professional tournaments and left my full time corporate job. At that point, I moved to Junction City, WI with my wife Sara and two boys Hank and Duke. I've been fishing professionally since 2011 and full-time since 2015. I've qualified for seven MLF Championships and won over a half million in tournament winnings at the professional level.
Congrats on your great start to your tournament season! I hope you have continued success the rest of the year! You are definitely my favorite RUclipsr and you have the best tips and advise, not to mention your great stories and videos like this one. I like how Chris pointed out you social media today because you really are one of the best out there.
awesome thank you!
Great content!!! Please keep it coming.
Love hearing the cons to great rigs, lures and setups.
Thanks
awesome!
First off great job on your first tournament finish!! Everything you said is so true…..I thought it was just me with all the issues you mentioned. And it is an extremely productive technique when other things aren’t working. Thanks for the video as always Matt. Hope the rest of your season goes as successful as your first!!
thanks for the support!
Great job on your fishing success so far this year. I really liked this video about the drop shot head aches. I really like the rubber band idea you mentioned. Im going to try that this summer. Thanks for the tip. Good luck this fishing season.
you bet!
I’m the odd angler out, I love fishing the drop shot and catch a lot of fish with it. I grew up walleye fishing with a jig and a minnow and that is similar technique and feel wise. Congratulations on your success in your first MLF tournament of the year.
I like rigging a swim bait on a drop shot
thank you!
Very true you are so right’
I absolutely love drop shotting. I experience some of these issues but nothing near what you describe. I never go on the water without at least two drop shots rigged up. Love it! ❤
Thanks for sharing!
I thought I was alone in my frustrations with the drop shot! So many tangled messes and so much lost tungsten! I tried swivels to mitigate twist but I'd always crank them into my tip guide and I hate doing that more than I hate line twist, lol! But lots of killer fish on it and SO versatile. Thank you for another cool video, good sir.
thanks for watching!
I use a vmc spin shot and this mitigates line twist for drop shotting. It also allows you to easily change tag length without having to retire complete rig.
that was my go to for years and they were great. I rarely had a fish spit the hook out or shake one off. I started using straight shank hooks like the Owner Cover Shot or the Roboworm Rebar for texas rigging and kind of just stuck with it but that also means line twist. VMC makes the straight shank spin shot Neko hook but I have yet to try them because I don't see how you can texas rig them. I will probably buy some to test out though.
thanks for sharing!
@@WildBillHabiki Shhhhh! The Rebar is a secret! 😁
Agreed , spinshots make life easier .
Great video. I agree with you about the weights. Can’t stand tying it all up and losing a weight on the first cast. Tried tungsten for a couple packs but switched to lead fishing from the bank.
Good stuff!
Matt, I use strictly pinch-on split shot for my weights. I can move it up or down my tag end as needed and don't worry about the damage that pinching may do to the line because it's below the hook.
How many do you typically use at one time- just one- a couple? Sounds like a good idea- I may give that a go. I can't see any drawbacks to it tbh.
Depends on the size shot I have and how much weight I need. The removable ones are reusable.
@@stoneysdead689 Depends on shot size and depth needed. Use the removable ones to move them easier as needed.
thanks for sharing!
Great job at Okeechobee! 18th place! Way to start the year out! 51-15 for a 3 day total...you gotta be pumped after that. BPT lookout!
1 down!...5 to go!
Have to add got some important info from video.Helpful as always .Appreciate WAY to go down in FL.
I appreciate that!
This was a great video loving the sucks videos so many times I have driven myself nuts retieing a drop shot but love them too
haha!
👏 way to start the season strong Matt!
thank you!
Finally picked up some Bridgford Jerky yesterday. Wow! That stuff is good. Will be in the boat from now on!
Super tasty!
Congrats on a great finish at Okeechobee!! Hope you do a recap for us.
coming soon!
I agree they’re a pain, I’m going to try using a screw lock in the end of the bait to see if it helps slow down losing the bait as much
go for it!
Congratulations on a good start of tournament season and thanks for the lbs you gave me on my fantasy fishing this week
thanks!
Great job! On your last tournament. Do you have any experience fishing for smallmouth near warm springs? I have a small local lake that has hot water spewing into the area where the reservoir turns into river. The whole lake is a rock pile and the primary forage are crawdads. Where the hot water enters the lake it’s pretty much sandy bottom.
i dont but i bet its good. i catch loads of smallmouth on a hot water discharge in our local river
First off, Great job on the big O. I tie a closed offshore loop for my hook, my problem is the dam smallmouth biting the weight. Thanks Matt
thanks!
Matt first of all congrats on your finish at Okeechobee. You finished ahead of Wheeler! Anyway I use the Cal Coast Fishing Cali clip hook keeper to secure my drop shot weight so check it out.
yep ive got a similar one i use!
I love the drop shot and catch at least half my fish on it (kayak). To alleviate your issues try using a micro swivel between braid and dropshot leader, use a neko rig hook with a keeper and tread on the bait (works for the flatworm), use 10 or 12 lb fluoro, and tie on the weight.
thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing Matt!
You bet!
Great start to your year...congrats
thanks!
Matt thanks for all the tips.
you bet!
I feel your pain about using the Dropshot, agree with all the above but man do they work!!! I think I speak for most of your fans in saying how proud we all are of your performance on the big “O”, great job buddy and way to start your season off right!!!
thanks!
hey Matt! you probably are aware of this, but for keeping my drop shot secured to my rod, Cal Coast has an awesome drop shot weight keeper that works tremendous. I got it on tackle warehouse. It is a little expensive and at $10, but I’ve been using it for about four years.thx!
Ill check it out!
Ditto for me on the VMC spin shot, alleviates some of these issues. I'm one of those who uses a rubber band to attach the weight to butt of the rod.
thanks for sharing!
Agree 100% I don't like using a drop shot but will if I need to thanks for your information and tips and good fishing 🎣
thanks!
Could not agree more. I keep several leaders rigged with hook and weight in separate bags marked with length from weight to hook. The other technique that drives me crazy is a Neko rig. I caught a boat load of LMB last season on it. I contemplated buying stock in nail weights because of the number of them I burned through. Either the bait would come flying off or the weights would work their way out.
thanks for watching!
Great job at Okeechobee! Glad you caught em.
thanks!
Using removable 1/4 oz. split shot weights works good. Put a small swivel above the hook to prevent line twist. Pre rig them and wrap then around a piece of pool noodle.
thanks for sharing
Congats on the top 20 at Lake Okeechobee.
Thanks!
Almost at 40,000! Way to go, Matt
come on 40K!
I’m so glad you spoke of this. The drop shop makes me feel like a klutz. Like you said there’s always a problem in many ways. I always feel like I shouldn’t have to work this hard. Then I think how the pros don’t have a problem. Well I guess I’m not the only one including the pros.
haha! we all feel the same way!
You crack me up! I thought I was the only one getting frustrated. I don't fish a drop shot and don't fish an A-rig, mostly for these reasons. I'd rather throw or drop something else on them. I do put up with the jerkbaits though.
haha! thanks for watching!
I agree with you Matt. Drop shot sinker always tied up in the net. In a hurry to get back in there to catch another get flustered end up cutting off now retire. Always go through alot of bait catching smallies. But it works well when needed. What do you do
thanks!
Amen, preach it brother Matt! I concur, if you can't tell- hate dealing with drop shots. And since it's something I've never been very good at anyway- I rarely fish them. Something I started to understand pretty quickly was that the lighter a rig is, the harder time I have with it- I need to feel that weight, some kind of resistance when I'm working a bait- or I can't tell what I'm doing, what is happening underwater, anything. I know a lot of it is my rod- you need the proper rod, and it needs to be higher end and sensitive, but a big part of it is also me being a big clumsy oaf. You need to really work with it until you develop a subtle feel for what you're doing, I think. Jerk baits are the same way- because they're so light and finnicky, and there are so many that all do different things, color is more important than usual and there are 10000 different colors, it's a headache. It's cool to see a pro feels the same way.
haha thanks for sharing!
🍺I feel your pain🤬.I use a Gamakatsu G-Finesse drop shot hook. It has a swivel above the hook and a swivel below on the weight holder. It helps with the line twist. I don’t feel the swivels cost me many bites compared to a more stealthy drop shot presentation.🤷♂️
thanks for sharing!
Congratulations on the first tournament of the year.
thanks!
A few things I do since I drop shot a bunch out here in AZ. 1) I do a simple overhand knot for the weight... 2) I dont put on baits or weights until I'm on the water.... so after on the water I just deal with the weight issues wrapping around on itself...not a big deal I feel. 3) sometimes after catching a fish it gets all tangled...., I just re-tye or untangle.
thanks for sharing!
Great video and great finish in your first tournament of the year. What were your most successful baits during the tournament last week here in Florida?
full recap coming in a couple of days! stay tuned!
If you don't use a leader longer than your rod, you might try a snap and ring from the fly fishers book. There is a tiny snap ( no swivel) that you could tie to your braid and then tie a tiny ring that fly fishers use on their leaders unto your rig then you could very easily change leaders while fishing in seconds.
thanks for the tip!
I want to say the split shot when squeezed on the line it had a loop at the bottom , small loop , and this made it easier if you need to adjust on the fly , instead of re rigging a shorter or longer leader which ever one needed that day or that spot ur fishing
thanks for sharing!
100% agree. I like the Power Shot more because you don't have to re-tie as often, but yeah I really don't tie them on. I fish a Neko or shakeyhead instead
power shot is great!
Congrats on your Florida trip!
thanks!
And yes you were consistent in the tournament nice job good start to the year. Needed just 1 big bite
thanks!
I used to use the Velcro strap’s on drop shot weights. Worked good.
good idea!
Congratulations on a great finish at the Big O!! Great job! I must be in the minority. I love fishing a dropshot. Especially with LiveScope or in heavy current. But you’re absolutely right about losing weights on fighting fish, rocks, shell beds, mermaids, sea creatures etc.
its a great bait just annoys me
@@MattStefanFishing Absolutely! If I had a dollar for every time they ended up all over the front deck after a rough ride thru Cape Vincent to the Ducks, I’d probably be able to buy a new high-end rod LOL
@@spintowinstradic6067
I have been fishing for many decades but never used a drop shot until last year. Boy have I been missing the boat. Caught a ton of bass on it last year and have even got a 5 lber already this year. Now I almost always have a drop shot rigged when I go fishing. But I have to agree that it is a pain to secure the bait to the rod when stowing it because the dang weight flops around and tangles into my other rods. And, I agree that they are a pain to rig because of having to tie two knots and you use up a fair amount of line each time (to account for both the hook and the weight). You can go through your expensive fluorocarbon line quicker that way.
they catch fish!
My go to when the fishing gets tough during the summer here in Texas
awesome!
I like this series it makes me so glad I don't fish tournaments. All of that hub bub would stress me out. I will stick to fishing for enjoyment. Like to study my surroundings and just enjoy the day. Lol. Keep up the great vids look forward every day for them.
Glad you enjoy it!
Congrats on a very solid tournament down in Okeechobee. Come say hi in Pasco County, lol.
thanks!
People use a rig for piers in the saltwater that are kinda like a drop shot. It's usually made of wire with 2 droppers and the hooks are attached with snap swivels. The weight goes on the bottom. But people who are more into catching a lot of fish make theirs with mono and no snaps. If you rig it like that you can do pretty good from a pier or straight down from a boat. Some people call it a chicken rig. I've never tried a drop shot for freshwater but my version of the chicken rig did good at the pier on the 4th. They sell 3 way swivels for the saltwater that might have you with line twist on your rigs.
interesting!
Not only do I agree that it’s a pain in the rear, I also don’t have that much success fishing a drop shot.
I’m a bank angler, and if you make a long cast, you’re really not going to be able to keep your worm suspended. The angle of your line vs the bottom makes it very difficult, even with a long leader between the worm and the weight.
I fish a lot of ponds that still have gunk on the bottom, which makes it tough to fish a jig or a Ned rig. A drop shot might keep my worm out of the muck, but only on a short cast. Problem is the fish are out, deep.
thanks for watching!
This season was my first out since i was a kid and im discovering a LOT of techniques are very offshore centered, and that often isnt mentioned because its assumed you already know what works and what does it. Im in a similar "boat" (hah) where i fish muck bottom with heavy greenery a lot and i find that going up north in my state brings me to the most pristine rock bottom shore fisheries with the huge drawback of snagging on huge boulders if you even think about using a swimjig or some similar bottom techniques. The only time i dont get upset fishing is low weed, sand/gravel bottom with the occasional cover. Which i dont have much luck on because of the fact that most of those fisheries are shallower/gradual decline areas that you NEED A BOAT TO FISH🙃. Happy fishing!
I’ve actually been using your reverse drop shot with floating elaztech lures to much success. I would choose DS over Ned Rig… I hate fishing it.
assume glad to hear!
I neve tie my hook when I'm using a drop shot I allways put the hook in the middle of two bobber stops. Did you understand? I put a bobber stop, then the hook, then another bobber stop. I do that to figure out the leader lenth I need to use and It helps avoiding to tie another knot. Greetings from Brazil! Nice video!
thanks!
Since you introduced me to those t-swivels I've been using those to tie my drop shots. Eliminates line twist, allows me to switch hooks without completely re-rigging, and depending on the lengths of the line to my weight and my hook it can be worked more like a carolina rig, tokyo rig, drop swam, or fished traditionally. Also the Cal Coast bait sacks are a great drop shot keeper replacement, just tuck everything into it.
I use the Cal Coast bait bags- I'm going to start doing this- thanks. I've been using their keepers but, it leaves the hook dangling eventually- I try to hook it into something to hold it but, it never works.
awesome! glad to hear!
I put a quick change clip (usually used for changing baits ) on my hook keeper to hold my drop shot weight.
sounds good!
Agreed on your points. I know the drop shot is effective but I find it easier to use a jig and it's way more fun.
stick with what you have confidence in !
I must be the odd one out, I don't seem to loose many weights, Accu-Cull makes a good weight/hook keeper that you can add anywhere on the rod called The All in One.
ill check it out!
The DS is definitely a last resort bait for me. I have caught fish on em’ but I much prefer throwing the Ned around. Plus a Ned skips great under docks. Don’t hear about many pros skippin drop shots😂
sounds good!
Make a series of the inconveniences/sucks of lures and rigs
i kinda have at this point haha. i did jerkbaits and alabama rigs as well
Hey Matt , I watched another PRO , slide on a bobber stop then slide the line through the hook eye with hook facing up , slide on another bobber stop under that hook , then use a split shot on the bottom for a weight , don’t know if it works only seen it on a video
it can work but doesnt allow great hookups IMO
@@MattStefanFishing thanks for the info bro
Good finish at the big O
thanks!
Congrats on a great finish at the Big O.
thanks!
Totally agree.
thanks!
I use the Trokar drop shot hook with the built in swivel, size 2 or 4. That stops most line twist for me.
sounds good!
Like Wes said, that's why I use a spin shot style hook.
awesome!
Great content. 👍
Thank you! 👍
Hey Matt Great video!!! Great finish at Okeechobee!!Chris called the right shot on you!!! Rapid Fishing Solutions has a nice item for drop shot line it's called a Drop Shot Keeper. Snacks on rod & holds the droop shot in place. I think it run around $6.50 for pack of three. Got get'em at Clarks Hill!!!!!! Stay Safe & God Bles!!
Chris was spot on with my prediction...i wish i was right about his
I totally agree, Matt ! :D As someone else mentioned in comments ; I'd use drop shot as my last resort. :-P
haha!
I put the rigs in a zip bag. only one rig in each bag. . I use 1 meter of FC 0.25 mm and conect the teardrop weight with a small swiwel in with an clinch knot and in the upper end a small swiwel. The hook is conectet with a dropshot knot , not the palomar.
thanks for sharing!
Matt I’m curious what type of MHX blank you would suggest for a BFS rod
Id try the NSj 841
I don't have issues with line twist or wrapping up but I use casting gear vertically dropping mostly like jigging. I remove the weight when I'm done and tangles don't happen hardly at all when not being used. The pinch on weights are so good just keepa few in your pocket.. Palomar knot takes like 30 sec or less to tie. I don't think I've ever had many baits come off when nose hooked but I'm dropping vertically and not really casting. The top of the mouth almost every time. Baits 3-4" .
Power shot is great too. Caught a ~40 lb flathead on 12 lb while bass fishing out of the kayak and went for a ride.
thanks for sharing!
what knot do you use for connecting to the braid?
uni to uni
Put a small overhand knot at the bottom of you tag end to stop loosing weights. With flouro a knot becomes a weakness but will still be strong enough to come thru most snags. A bad snag and the knot will break but not loose much tag end. In Az a DS is a staple and this is what most do.. try it
thanks for watching
I guess I’m the odd man out, I just don’t see all the issues. I don’t get a lot of line twist 🤷♂️, using spinning combos with braid to flouro leader. I typically have two setup ready but rarely go through both. It’s kinda been my go to rig for the last two years. Absolutely killed it last year.
stick with what works for you!
I totally agree
thanks!
Another lure that I believe is a “boat only” lure. In my opinion it takes far too long to rig up and it’s just not worth the aggravation. It’s probably 3rd in line behind A-rigs and Jerk baits as being a “boat only” baits.
hard to argue with that!
One of the few presentations that will fall straight down, around certain types of structure it is a powerful tool. That being said I dislike a spinning rod in general, hardly ever use one. I'm usually looking for grass or the dirtiest water I can find to catch them on a baitcaster.
it is a great fish catcher!
I used to have a very unhealthy relationship with the drop shot and Carolina rig. i cant even remember the last time i used either one in earnest, back in November i think i tied a Carolina rig. The way the weight knocks on my poles drives me mad, when my hook is slotted in the keeper. 🤣
haha
True facts. Drop shot is always a last resort for me.
stick with what you have confidence in
I slide on a bullet weight , bobber stop then tie a simple overhand knot at the end .
thanks for sharing!
🍺🥳It sure is a great feeling knowing that your goals this season are still obtainable. 🤑10K and some good points is just what the doctor ordered. Beating 8 BPT anglers including Wheeler proves you got game. I told you that you would be in the 50’s move into the 30’s on day two and move into the 20’s today and you had to show me up and go all the way to 18th. 🤷♂️
Congratulations. That’s going to make the commute a little more enjoyable.🤠
a decent tourney always helps the drive go well. one down, five more to go
Matt try the Bondy Bait Worms they are tough.
will do!
How do you cast a drop shot with a 10 foot leader?
knot goes right through the rod guides like butter
The old fairy stick! Try to avoid it like the plague😂 In it always ends up in my hand when it’s tuff😢
haha
was so happy to see you in third place but I guess shit happens. gratz on 18th though. awesome start to the season..kept track of ya all tournament. you'll get your win this year for sure...I know it.
thank you!
Do you ever use a finesse Tokyo rig instead of a drop shot?
rarely
Your thoughts on the aquaview?
I’ve been posing this question all year. Why are plenty of pros running the AquaView but are not talking about it???
because it allows ou to see what kind of fish you are graphing and the size of fish without even needing to catch any
@@MattStefanFishing what’s your thoughts on it and is it allowed in Pro fishing.
I never use the drop shot, too much stuff going on for me. Congrats on a great start!
thanks!
Swivels…..swivels everywhere!
I haven’t fished a drop shot since the first time I tried it for all of these reasons 😂
haha i like it!
Come on Matt, you know you are a closet drop shot lover! Those are some weak excuses for not loving it. No hook keeper, haha! I fished it for the first time starting in March of 2022 and, I never put it down all year. Caught probably 200+ bass on the drop shot. But, I get it. You threw that out there to get people to comment back. Good thinking! The biggest pain but not really a problem is the leader having to be retied or, changing presentations meaning having to remove the entire rig just change.
they do workj great!
I attach my weight to a snap swivel. Easy to change and they don’t come flying off.
sounds good
Check out VMC spin shot hooks
thanks!
Just got that drop shot keeper because I was getting tangled every single time. So annoying!
nice!
Add the Carolina Rig to a rig that SUCKS. If I am confronted with dragging a bait through weeds all day at a snails pace, I'll either use a TRD Ned rig or find something else to do. Oh, throwing a lipless crankbait from the bank SUCKS too! LOL
haha yep!
Drop shot has been my top producer. All of the things you say are true. I would add that I have to weed through a lot of small fish to get to the bigger ones. Drop shots are small fish hammers.
thanks for sharing!
Drop shots are awesome. Love em
BUT! Not the first tool I grab
sounds good!