What if America Went Full Colonial?
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2020
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I bet even the 2000th will get it.
- what if India was never partitioned?
- what if the Empire of Brazil had accepted to receive Black American settlers in Amazonia?
- what if Leopoldina of Habsburg had been crowned Empress regnant of Brazil instead of Peter of Braganza?
- what if the territories of the states of Mississippi & Alabama had been given to the Civilized Tribes?
Great video, I have a request - What If the Axial Age never happened? How will this change human history and religions?
Great video, always was into that subject. Just one problem though, you never mentioned if America one the 1812 war, they could’ve annexed Nova Scotia and the inland areas including mantreal and Ottawa, plus it would settle the debate for Oregon territory and America would seize all of it
I just want to say, I just found your channel ten minutes ago and I am in love. Subscribed
Britain made a colony so large it made other colonies.
Mongolia made a colony so large it made other colonies.
Here comes the assyrian empire
Just like Carthage
Just like what phonesia did with carthage
Or arguably china with japan
Does a overseas tributary count as a colony? It was a overseas posetion which sole reason of exsisting was resource extraction only in that case monetary resources.
Nice pfp
France: hey Britain, did you hear America has colony’s now?
Britain: it does?
France: yes an- Britain are you crying?
Britain: that’s my boy
HAHAHA!
hear*
Lol
America isn't alone as Australia and New Zealand has them too.
Canada? That's a big maybe...
@@KangaKucha I’ll do it for my country
“The western powers did some bad stuff in Africa.”
Me: (Looks at Belgium)
Oh noe I just eat waffle
belgium: one to fifteen million congolese? uh. uh. have a waffle.
*_Best give belgium to germany_*
Yeah take Belgium *portugal take Congo*
So did the eastern powers.
The kid who wants to resurrect Teddy Roosevelt:
The kid who wants to annex Mexico:
The kid who wants Cuba in the Union:
The kid who wanted to grant Quebec independence at the cost of Canada:
The kid wanting Greenland as a military base:
The kid who says it's Manifest Destiny time:
(Credit to King Henry) The Filipino kid sick of how their government sucks:
the fuck are you talking about
@@jamwither9847 *"This is America"* is what hes talking about. 😂
@@thequandlecultiston3157 *points to globe*
The Filipino kid sick of how their government sucks:
@@genghiskhan5701 damn im puttin that one in
"They had a cannibal president whose main general was called Gen. Buttnaked"
Me distractly listening while drawing on my PC: what
Count Dankula made a documentary on him, it's great, look it up.
Yea the guy actually redeemed himself
Vice did a good documentary on him where they interviewed him and other warlords
I remember hearing about the cannibal president, but general ButtNaked is new to me
@@gracefulcubix4730 I wouldn't say he redeemed himself. He pulled what amounts to a political stunt in order to not get executed by the state
The American possessions in the Caribbeans would become like Puerto Rico.
Is that bad compared to what they're like now though?
mano ni de relajo ni me lo imagino loco
Ninjam at least they have national representation. the us does almost nothing for puerto rico
@@jacobdaniels3246 yes because political representation = prosperity right?
@@cv4809 didn't the founding fathers launch a whole revolution for political representation, the 3rd estate also launched a huge revolution for representation too. It may not equal prosperity but it's sure as hell worth something otherwise why would these people keep having revolutions for representation.
America when having the Philippines as a colony: "Why do I own you??"
Literally though. The Democrats weren't too keen on colonialism in the first half of the 1900s and during the Wilson administration tried to kick The Philippines out in four years. Even the Philippines was like "Wait I don't wanna leave yet. >_>"
The Democrats reasons for not liking colonialism were even more ridiculous. This was back when the Democratic party was a marriage made in hell between southern segregationists and city progressives. So the reasons for disliking colonialism ranged from "colonialism is an immoral scourge on society and America would be a hypocrite to engage in it" to "Ew Asians could move here keep them away."
@@Moonlitwatersofaqua holy fuck that's a helluva kek
@@Moonlitwatersofaqua I thought US brought Filipinos intentionally in their country to bolster more nurses and add more recruits in their Army and Marines?
@@NoVisionGuy I can't tell if this is a joke. But I will elaborate on the Republican perspective as well since I didn't last time.
The Republicans were more pro imperialist but they weren't anymore unified than the Democrats. Some people viewed the annexation of the Philippines through a purely geopolitical standpoint. In that time colonialism was the international norm. Someone was going to colonize The Philippines if America left. Probably Germany or Japan. So some Americans felt that if that was going to be the case it might as well be them. It was a tough sell though. More tempting was the possible access to foreign markets.
Others though took a moralistic approach. Like President McKinley saying they were going to christianize the population. The Filipinos were catholic. Among other things too. There were many racists here too.
@@Moonlitwatersofaqua I'm a Filipino, that's what I always thought, that the US was here for strategic reasons, in exchange, they will help build our economy (in that time), they even brought the famous city planner in Daniel Burnham, where he made a city plan for 4 major cities in our country, although only 1 was made in reality in Baguio City since Japan halted most of US plans here then took off eventually.
If the philippines never declared independence.
Imagine hawaii but bigger version.
That will be better
The exact 'us' won't exist but our place would be beautiful (more that what it is now). It could be the bigger Maldives
@@xedrickjohntorres2864 ayaw mo yun para tayong hawaii tignan mo ngayon ang hawaii maayos pamumuhay ng mga tao dun ngayon at marami gusto pumunta at manirahan na filipino
Since Philippines is bigger than Hawaii, I think Hawaii would be part of the Philippine Archipelago, rather than Philippines being part of Hawaii
@@cyrusparcasio749 yup and america will use the country as a tourist state which they get their income from tourism and the problems in that country wouldn’t exist thx to America superiority
The more I learn of Liberia, the less I want to know about it.
How do you not want to know more about General Buttnaked?!
@@AndresRamirez-fi5uw
That sentence is enough for me. That country scares me, from its county flags that look like children drawings, to its founding by hypocritical, formal slaves.
@@Enchie OMG i nver realized the county flag thing. It looks like it was made in MS paint
@@AndresRamirez-fi5uw
They really do. CP Grey did a excellent video on their horriblness.
@@Enchie link?
"america decided against annexing cuba because they didnt want a bunch of mixed race catholics" i find that offensive as a new mexican lol.
Sadly its the truth though
It’s sad to think that the only reason Mexico isn’t apart of the us is because the politicians at the time were racist and half were slave owners, such a shame
@@worm2576 debatable
Philippines: Are we a joke to you?
@@genghiskhan5701 From what i learned of the time, the Philippines almost became a US state but Congress stopped that from happening because of the heavy resistance by the natives and how brutal the occupation of the state which tarnished any thoughts of colonizing any further.
The U.S. could have annexed all of Mexico with the Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo if they had really been imperialist, they had totally won the capital of Mexico.
enforcing that would be practically impossible though.
image instead of my name being jose it would be John
@Frigidlava it would be a blood bath the southern mexican jungle wood be a hell hole to fight in especially in the 1800s
@@freddy4603 How so? Mexico literally was so weak at the time. What WOULD be an issue was keeping Mexico in the Union.
@@iranianintelligenceagency9337 after years mexico would fight for independence from united states and take their their whole lands and leave u.s. they knew this too
The US Marie Corps was one of Haiti's best governments.
Not really, they were actually quite tyrannical
@@Limosethe in Haitian, tyranny and government are synonyms.
@@Shotty262 Fr, in Haiti its the same word
@@Shotty262 so that makes it ok right...
@@CountingStars333 Yes
Last time I was this early the Mongols were pillaging Moscow.
Last time I was this late the Poles were pillaging Moscow.
Last time I was this early Russia was still pillaging Moscow
Last time i was this early the Nazis were trying to pillage Moscow
Last time I was this early the Roman empire was still in one piece.
Last time I was this late the emus were raiding Australia
Till this day even after all the revolution and the independence gained from america my country the Philippines is till in a way in love with america, so much so that our second language is English even though our Spanish roots still dominates as our official language, right now in our generation official language of tagalog is slowly replaced by English so much so that we kinda call it taglish now
I was starting to get the idea that you guy's hated us if your president was an example
@@spartanx9293 duterte is one of the old guard he probably saw how much America has influenced our culture and politics that he just wants the USA to reduce its sway on our citizens, but he doesn't really speak for all of us Filipinos
The one of reason why duterte is "anti American" is because America during Obama administration didn't comply with the mutual defence pact that China "aquired" the Scarborough shoal. This created the Chinese assumption that USA is not going take action.
@@desideriusfelicia6811 oh yeah I remember that he was supposed to have arbitrated a deal in which both your forces pulled out you guys pulled out the Chinese stuck around an Obama did nothing
@@fyreborneblu6706 personally I'm surprised you do have a positive opinion of us from what I remember we weren't exactly kind to you during the colonial days
I don't think America would make Spanish an official language beyond the state level because English isn't an official language on the Federal level. At best though, it would become an accepted administrative language and there would be efforts to ensure that Spanish is equally acceptable alongside English in the public sector.
LOL "abandon" the Philippines because of economic reasons? FYI the Philippines was one of the wealthiest countries in Asia when the US left. The only reason the US allowed the Philippines independence was because there were too many natives to assimilate into the US. If the Philippines somehow gained statehood instead of independence back in the day, it would have easily been like Hawaii is today in terms of development, but with a population at least double, even triple that of California, in fact this hypothetical "Philippine Region" of the US would probably itself broken up into three states (Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao), which is a big power block (6 senators) that is made up mostly of non-whites, so can you see why the US had to let the Philippines go instead of trying to absorb it like they did Hawaii?
in the commonwealth era, Manuel Quezon was also under the Nacionalista party who their main rival before was the "Federalista party" which espoused statehood with the US as the 51st statists. it's just that Nacionalista party won and the other rival broke apart. now that same party is the same Partido Nacionalista we have right now where Villar and Cayetano are heads
Also the Europeans didn't abandoned Africa, The US After the second WW instituted a police of Liberal Hegemon. All countries could source the material from anywhere, the European population on Africa stayed. The Europeans still wanted the control on Africa, but it didn't had control over it, the armies where depleted. Since the 1900 the wars on Africa were pending to the Africans, see the Rif war and algerian War. The UK and France still tried their card in Egypt... MENA. Portugal fought and lost.
No I'm pretty sure the US left the Philippines because its land thousands of miles away from the mainland, and before modern shipping (such as in 1946) there really isn't that much economic reason to have a territory so far that doesn't get outweighed by all the downsides of encompassing the entire Pacific. There wasn't all that much strategic reason to keep it either, we had just been dragged into ww2 because of it and the Philippines are awfully close to a lot of countries that were shaping up to really dislike America, so having multiple states right beside them doesn't seem great when they could be independent but a really good friend (military bases).
The US never really wanted the phillipines. they promised independece give or take two years after buying it from Spain and made a plan to gradually pull out of the Phillipines. 1934-5 the Phillipines and US set up a governement that gave the Phillipines self governance, although it wasn't absolute, and around the time they were getting ready to pull out Japan invaded.
Also i dought it would have been as develop has you say since US didn't really want the Islands, it was too far away from mainland US, unlike Hawaii the Phillipines were very close to global powers at the time, i'm confident the Filipinos wouldn't cooperate, etc.
It would have been like Puerto Rico not Hawaii
I do think a Colonial America would probably try to take Greenland, Canada and Belize. I think it's just inevitable, especially with the presence in the Yucatan
Canada says.....F,,K YOU!
America says.....F,,K YOU! 2
let's be honest USA fuk up Canada in one second
@@mr.g3203 *laughs in war of 1812*
@@ebenmitton7340 🖕
alternate history: what if whatifalthist was the most popular alternate history channel on youtube?
He's already the best it's just a matter of time
@papa joe stalin of Stalinist stanistan yep! Oya?
If only
Cody of althistoryhub would go to war with him and mr.z along with reddit and the forums.
He will be the best, I just know it.
We would be hearing collage students complain about it for a additional 100 years,
Who cares what they think lol
collage
@@candicoated2001 Typing on my phone at 2 am ....so....GFY?
I feel you had a missed opportunity in regards to post WW2 negotiations where most major allied countries were expecting the birth of a massive American Empire(Which we obviously didn't go for as history shows it usually doesn't work out very well never mind modern economical/Geopolitical issues on top.)
The Philippines were ripe for statehood surely. Only issue is dividing them into 3 or more states. Some of the existing regional Philippine names wouldn't be easy to pronounce in English.
Exactly we controlled the majority of the world at the end of WW2 and just like the country we are we gave them up
@@visionist7 We probably should have given the Filipinos a choice on weather or not they wanted independence instead of forcing the decision on them.
Perhaps a referendum of sorts.
well, a massive American empire actually exists, from many countries in the Americas, Israel, basically all of Europe, japan, India, middle east and Africa. Soft power baby
One more addition could have been the Americans intervening in the Turkish War of Independence to break away Armenia as an American mandate.
What if the United states annexed all of north America?
War with the British Empire.
I don’t think the benefits out way the burden. The best farmland and rivers are in the center of North America. The USA hasn’t prospered due to great leadership, but because of great geography.
If only
They wouldn't been able to control the center of mexico, which was way more populated and controlled than the far north. Latin America would be more together
Lol would everyone else just sit there and wait to lose their freedom?
I don't know what to put here so I'm gonna say murica
FUCK YEAH
Always an appropriate response.
Nathaniel Grauel MURICA
fuck yeah
@@workingjoe5599FREEDOM IS THE ONLY WAY YEAH!
What you want?
10:03 "The Western powers did some bad stuff in Africa."
I feel like that sentence deserves a spot on the list of top 10 biggest understatements of all time.
They did questionable acts
In the great scheme of things across thousands of years they did bad stuff. Much like every other groups of peoples...
@@modables Especially Belgium.
It's like saying Hitler didn't like jews very much
@@Grey11s Leopold II did nothing wrong.
As a Filipino, it saddens me to realize that we are being passively colonized through language.
Sooner or within 50 years without some governmental actions, our 100+ precious languages will going to be extinct.
Instead of worrying about that, worry about: corruption, overpopulation, poverty, brain drain, rebellion, terrorism, and other things that keeps your pitiful territory the way it is. Stop worrying about your culture and language and food and all that.
@@cashewnuttel9054 A nation/country without its definitive culture weighs lighter than an atom.
Your point is valid, but it doesn't address my concern.
@@freshbakedclips4659 Nationalism doesn't put food on your table.
@@cashewnuttel9054
I know that nationalism doesn't put food on the table, I tell you again, that isn't my point.
Is it wrong to preserve one's identity specifically our nation's identity?
To be honest, you sounded more like a jerk than a genuine concerned netizen, better fix your delivery.
What's wrong here in your narrative is promoting Communism/Socialism in a surprising and allusive way. Nice try.
@@freshbakedclips4659 None of that will matter by/after 2063. Will you still be alive by then?
Costa rica is literally just vibing
Costa Rican people are the kindest I have ever met and when I visited San Jose it was the nicest and cleanest place I had ever seen within Central America.
they didn't have as strong of a slave economy as the rest of central america so they didn't have as many reasons to hate eachother from the get-go
Population decline due to forced sterilization by the US tho
They don’t even have a military force
@@NACHOXXX4 No, it's because of mass emigration to the US. Where did you even hear the sterilization thing?
The US has arguably had the most successful colonial empire the world has seen.
Military hegemony, opening of markets to American goods and leverage through international actors ie IMF, WTO and the UN.
Add to that, the US "empire" was a very light yoke that promoted stability and growth of markets compared to more "exploitative" hegemons.
*Comment conflicting with idea*
That isn't an Empire.
That is more massive sphere of infuence
What really was more of a colony was what happened with hawaii at first before integreating it and 100% the philipeans.
The British empire was pretty big(prove that it wasn’t big in 1920)
I see your points about "colonies" and "empire" in the common definition of the words.
You are of course correct in the traditional sense.
The point of my comment is to highlight that the US (and USSR) were every part as much "colonial empires" as Britain, France or Spain in their glory days.
The approach and tools to reach hegemonic political and economic influence over large groups of countries merely support my claim. With technology and economic development, it was no longer economically or strategically viable to take direct control over a country and its resources. Instead a "world order" for regulating, policing and rewarding behaviour that benefited the US was the main tool in US economic colonialism. A system that that also to a very large extent benefited growth and development in many of the US "colonies"...
As usual very interesting, a lot to contemplate. Sometimes I wish I could just turn on the TV and see an alternate world where these videos had become reality just to see what it would actually be like but you’re conjectures are probably pretty doggone close. Once again, thanks, you have a friend in Columbus Ohio!
“Was the US a colonial power? Yes but only half-heartedly.”
*37 States and 14 Territories have entered the chat*
**Laughs in Russian**
"half-heartedly" as in they didn't colonize as much as they could have.
Could have had pretty much all of Mexico, a lot of Canada, and a ton of central america
36*
@@simpleandawesomeanime3220 yes they didn't. Should've colonised the milky way by now yet they didn't smh
14:40 "The US would abandon Liberia in the same way all the other western powers abandoned their african territories"
France: Are you sure about that?
yeah France is essentially running a shadow colonial empire in Africa.
Hey, at least France allows Africans to their country and breed with their women. Both sides are benefitting greatly from this.
@@olympia5758 like in the 2020 ad 30s war video all these former French colonies becoming countries only exist because some European dude said so. So it’s almost like they could just revoke that and recolonize really easily
@@DizzyMapping Like I said, both Africans and French are benefitting from this, no matter how colonial it looks. France gets cheap natural resources and Africans are allowed to become French citizens and enjoy living in a 1st world country where they can have the opportunity to become rich and provide for their families. It's a win-win.
@Lamodrick Foster Not the Africans? Is that why they're allowed to live in France? Given the opportunity by the French government to become successful in life? The average black French lives much more comfortably than most Africans and has a higher IQ, they can do anything the European French already do, France is one of the most liberal and tolerant places in the world. What do you mean they're not benefitting? You're probably from the US so don't project whatever you have going on over there onto Europe, because it's completely different.
I wish I recorded that ad break. "After WWII the Americans would have had done a lot of soul searching about WHY DO A&W BURGERS TASTE SO GOOD?!"
I've always wondered about this. Interesting to know just straight up taking over territory is not always worth it.
lol
Seems legit
I don’t think I’ve ever had A&W. The closest location to me is in Alabama and I’m in Mississippi.
@@Hyper_Drud they need to open more A&Ws. I heard it’s good stuff
@@gustini2146 its pretty eh tho
I absolutely love these videos. Nearly akin to hopping into an alternate universe and watching it play out.
As a Filipino, I find it irritating that the Palawan island (the long strip of island in the left of the country) is not included in many thumbnails. Why?
Seriously? As a Filipino, I find it irrelevant to the crux of the video. It's not a fatal error.
Oa mo nman
@@roj22fetals6 oo nga
@PR Droid it means he is overreacting
@PR Droid oa - means "over acting"
Ngl your very underrated I think your gonna be a huge channel one day I just hope you stick to the same easy to swallow format, plus you should have way more subs compared to the absolute dedication you put Into your videos. I hope your channel succeeds love your videos
@Dan oz yeah, they just shout out the channel and then start watching
Suggestions for future Videos:
- What if Maria Theresia had to bow to her familys will and married Frederick the Great instead of Franz Stephan von Lothringen.
- What if Germany was formed under the German greater Solution (Großdeutschland which included Austria, Czechia, Slovenia and Istria)
- What if Germany was formed under Austria as "Großösterreich"
- What if Germany invaded Austria Hungary before WW1
- What if Germany went communist after WW1 instead of facist
Frederick was gay so...
@@sneksnekier6764 i don't think Alsace was that hard as a mistake ^^
@@mint8648 Many monarchs where gay. Even Ludwig the 16. was according to some people gay or bisexual. Marriage and having children was no thing of sexual desire or love in this time. Also his wife in this alternate timeline would be some important person in european politics. Under this pressure he might try to get a son with her and have fun with guys in his freetime. You can also cut this timeline in two, one if they had a son and one without
Interesting scenario. I see where it could be plausible while also would never happen in an alternate world. But, I think this may be one of those videos where it could influence my worldbuilding for my writing idea. And I thank you for your great content throughout the years.
Despite the Appalachian absence, you did a wonderful job bringing plausibility to a couple of scenarios that captivated me. I will be seeing more of your content as a welcome back jester.
With great service,
Nova
My family is originally from Philippines 🇵🇭 but I also love history too.
cringe
@@afork2600 No your cringe and you should stop hating on Filipinos das racist bro
@@afork2600 a fork
Why do filipinos hate whites but want to be white
@@haltdieklappe7972 I don’t know 🤷♂️😂 but yeah Filipinos love tourist/foreigners 😊😂
i love the Philippines. all my homies are from the Philippines
cringe
Wtf 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah you should lose your own culture now, love your American culture and abolish your own language too 😉😉
If the Philippines is still part of the US, I’m curious how the SCS dispute would have turn out
Probably not much of a change. The previous administration(s) may not have stood up to China for business reasons and, now that the islands are built, it might take a war to get the mainland Chinese out.
Probably the Chinese wouldn't dare build islands as having a dispute with some poor countries is already a diplomatic hassle, a dispute with a powerful naval hegemon would be a nightmare.
I mean the CCP only start enforcing their claims when the Americans withdrew from Subic in 1991
Well in that case, US will not only get the entire SCS but can also have the whole island of Borneo.
@@genghiskhan5701 IMO if the phillipines were fully annexed, you would have more American soldiers and ships in the pacific from the phillipines to Hawaii. The Japanese Empire at the time would have had a hard time going into phillipines. Maybe the Japanese would have instead gone fully after China since in our timeline, the IJN won the favour of the higher ups against the IJA
@@warren5037
I think the Japanese would still go with the Nanshin-Go plan and strike the Philippines assuming the Dutch East Indies and British Malaya are still a thing as they would still the resources to continue the war in China.
The Philippines was basically the equivalent of Belgium was to the Germans.
What if Simon Bolivar's plan to create a unified Latin America happened? I'm in school rn, and this seems like an interesting thing to see explored.
Here’s one for you Whatifalthist:
What if Großdeutschland actually happened? That is to say, what if the initial unification of Germany in the 19th century included Austria? Many things would have happened differently, that I know for sure.
Whatifalthist : Was the US a colonial power?
Me : What is Manifest Destiny?
If the territory can vote and influence the government, it isn't a colony.
@@henriquemelchiorgomes8750 Canada, Australia and New Zealand were colonies, Domonions of the the British Empire but still colonies. They had their own parlaiments and could exert influence over Westminster to a military extent but were still colonial territories.
@@Strettger the difference is that Australia didn't send representatives to London, unlike Texas who send representatives to Washington DC.
@@henriquemelchiorgomes8750 Don't give China any ideas
@@daniellara1110 they already did this, thousands of years ago. And hey, I said vote, so they won't do it.
I can't believe youve reached 100k ive been hoping you could reach this milestone before the end of 2020 and you smashed it.
I'm so glad this channel exists
There were 4 naval powers in the Orient when the U.S. took over the Philippines. Three of them had part of their navies docked at Hong Kong harbor: Britain, Germany and the U.S. The fourth was Japan. When the U.S. defeated Spain in a mocked naval battle, Germany immediately challenged the U.S. Commodore Dewey was concerned if not for the timely help of Britain. U.S. decided to relinquish the Philippines due to 1) distance, 2) being in Asia and especially near a potential adversary, Japan and 3) just like Hispanic America, full of Oriental Catholics. Had the U.S. retained the Philippines, U.S. House of Representatives today would be dominated by Filipinos with 110 million (much bigger than California).
Ironic, considering the U.S. has/is the 4th largest Catholic country in the world
What if America Looked like This?
Turned into
What if America Went Full Colonial?
I think the title change was for the best
@@wartrix6046 yeah
America whenever they “colonised” a already habited place:
You are being rescued
Please do not resist
Looks like somebody just subscribed themselves to some Democracy(tm)! **Loads rifle while eye balling your home** I certainly hope you read the Terms of Service.
@@attemptedunkindness3632 I read the start of that as if you were getting annoyed at him
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I remember the US saying it would educate and "Christianize" the Philippines.
Poor choice of word though. How can you "Christianize" a country that's already Catholic majority?
@@madmarvshighwaywarrior2870 Many protestants didn't consider Catholics christian as they had saints. Many protestant denominations are FAR more conservative than Catholicism, as Catholicism incorporated many pagan holdays and tradtions into. Infact, it comes directly from the Roman Pagan temples as the Pontimus Maximus was the religious leader and Emperor of classical Rome.
Uhhh, people from Puerto Rico are NOT "immigrants". They are US citizens by birth.
That is like calling somebody who moves from Alaska or California to Georgia an immigrant.
Yes, moving from state to state is migration. If you move from Texas to California, you are an immigrant to CA and an emigrant of TX. For context I know this bc my area is mostly people who immigrated from elsewhere.
@@toomanyopinions8353 there is no "immigration" inside the US. Your entire claim is silly.
The strategic location of the Philippines is very important to the United States because if she colonized the Philippines, her pressence and power in Asia Pacific region will be strong.
America was actually willing to grant the Hawaiians independence until they got the Philippines. Suddenly having a territory between asia the Americas made the Americans forget about their promises for independence. And they annexed hawaii
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul thank God
I remember reading somewhere that the Nicaragua canal never would have worked because the population relied so heavily on the lake for livelihood, food, water, etc.
To be realistic, if the canal functioned well, the local population would get moved elsewhere if they interfered.
But its a major freshwater source for the entire region, in that day wouldnt it have just lead to constant revolts? Might not have been worth the cost or simple pushed america to annex Panama after a failed nicuragua canal attempt?
@@jogalvez746 Well, we're gonna find out pretty soon. China is building a canal right through the middle of the lake.
Psilocybin X It got cancelled (effectively) a while ago because they ran out of money.
@@innosam123 That's good news. I hope it stays that way
Me watching this as a mexican:
UH OH
wEy yO sOy dE cOaHuiLa 😭😭
Do u speak taco or chimichanga
@@DARTH-R3VAN yes
@@armandoestrella3097 nice
Yeah same i don’t really know how to feel about this tho.
I thoroughly enjoyed the possibilities this video has to offer. What if, indeed.
Fascinating, absolutely fascinating! 18 minutes never made more sense. You have such great insight and analysis. RUclips search results on this topic usually produce anti-American view from a biased prospective but I thought your presentation was impartial, presenting both positives and negative aspects of the "what-ifs" in full colonial America. I wonder if it was as much fun for you to make as it was for me to watch.
You forgot to include? Canada, Greenland, Mexico, Caribbean Island and Central America.
I forgot about Greeland, that's another video however.
+@@WhatifAltHist :
With those added territories? The United States of America is the Holy Empire of Britannia, than invades Japan to colonize it and renames into Area 11.
@@Clee-os6pv noice I'm currently watching it
@@Clee-os6pv Haha Code Geas Season 2 isn't my cup of tea but I loved the first one.
@@leto.o5759 Did you say "tea"? "TEA"? "TEA"! *Boston Tea Party intensifies*
I’m so happy this dude’s channel is blowing up now. These videos are so amazing
Great stuff bro
Great Video Rudyard
What if alt hist had 1 million subs
He'd get struck down for being "alt-right adjacent" or whatever, since he believes that the West, especially the US, had positive impact on the world, and that without Western Europeans the world would likely stagnate at XIII century levels of development.
He would play Minecraft.
@@theq6797 YES, I want him to make a factions server but we make the alt history and in the end he makes a history video.
@He ro Of course he is. But that's not enough to avoid getting smeared as racist.
@@TapOnX @He ro Can you not talk politics FOR 5 SECONDS
Remember kids, it's ok to be an empire if you're contiguous!
Laughs in USA Russia and China
Very fascinating and great video. I would've loved to also have seen your take on American imperialism after WW2 in regards to the Pacific theater. Perhaps we would see an alternate timeline where America makes Japan it's puppet state and has a larger dominion than just Okinawa and multiple military installations.
wow this is a really great video!!!
Thank you Whatifalthist. Due to you showing me Brilliant, I can now began my conquest of the world. Thank you Papi. ♥️
A perfect timeline doesn't exi-
Your right
This is probably actually the only best alternative history I ever did saw, bravo
There was some politician that submitted a bill to change the name of the USA to the United States of Earth. Because in theory, any nation could become a state.
spanish wouldnt become an official language, as English is not an offical language.
Latin was once considered as a choice for one which would genuinely change alot if Americans adopted it or realistically (as much as we can get) make the American language which would be half latin half English. Relations with Britain political and economical would be less warm, but maybe Latin speaking countries would be more warm.
I would agree that the US is actually quite the colonial power. If we start with the Thirteen Colonies and consider what the United States encompasses today, I'd argue that the US was successful at assimilating all the mainland "colonies" it acquired, via Manifest Destiny.
Not really, a colony can’t vote for government normally so there fore they aren’t really a colonial empire.
Less colony and more conquest.
Wow! Excellent. Tons of information!
I think this scenario could work because it could be driven by the people’s belief that they were putting people and lands under a more fair rule. Kind of like the attempted “liberation” of the British Canadian colonies in 1812.
As a Nicaraguan I want to thank you for talking about the walker intervention in Nicaragua
Cuba becoming a state in almost any alternate timeline as they (the Cubans) actually had a vote and turned it down right after the Spanish-American war. The list of more minor things just off that would probably be long. Can you imagine who Fidel Castro would have been had he ben born in Cuba with it being an American territory/state?
If by some chance we had kept the Philippines (which would be an interesting alternate history by itself) that would have made the US consideration for the South China sea now very different (like the Chinese being less likely to try and swipe the Spratly Islands).
Castro would have bet president of USA? His family was one of the richest on Cuba.
There were opportunities in 1945, but glossed over. The US led the push against colonialism in 1945, but what if it had gone the opposite way?
Britain: I raised that boy!
Britain: that's my boy
American empire: thanks daddy
When did you reach 100k subs!?
Well done man you deserve it, i really enjoy your in depth videos, let there be many more subs to come in your future!
Very informative. I always like those what if scenarios for entertainment.
Wow! There’s more alternate history channel? Now I know I’m safe!
I don’t like how most American schools don’t teach that a random American soldier shot and killed a civilian walking across a bridge in the Philippines, which caused a war
tensions were already high there since they were different occupying forces in the same city, operating on a different idea of their presence there. it was bound to happen since usually it was understood that most of the KKK local armies also came from local civilians, so the american soldier just thought it was one of the soldiers or members of the first philippine republic or KKK
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Not an excuse for killing an innocent thou....
@@M4gicMark i didnt say it was an excuse. im from ph too. the main reasons why the US let us go is because the Nacionalista party under Manuel Quezon frequently asked the US to let us go on independence missions to washington dc, especially during the US Great Depression times right before ww2 and right after the Roaring 20s in the US when they were rich and now poor. the rival party of Nacionalista party before was called the Federalista party and they were basically 51st statists. the US during great depression years could not fathom a block of 3 more states being added with a power of 6 local ph senators from mestizo filipino oligarchic families. even the sugar barons in the US did not want competition from the sugarcane industry of the philippines, which is why all land was limited the 16 and 1024 hectares only in the philippines under US rule. no more, no less. or else, u get shot by american soldiers thinking u might be communist or rebel guerillas supplying nearby secret camps
Last time i was this early Canada torched the white house.
@memes memes isn't Canada french?
@@cosmicrider5898 :( yes.,
@@cosmicrider5898 No, Quebec, one region in Canada is French. British troops from England burned the whitehouse
Last time I was this early, the US has just looted present-dayToronto
@@cosmicrider5898 canada was new-france then we were conquered and then the english decided to call themselves "canadians".
Spain: I can't accept my defeat against Philippines. Let's sell Las Islas Filipinas to Estados Unidos to hide our defeat.
USA: Hi Intramuros! You're now my headquarters.
@@justinallen9104 the us did the same method in hawaii to Philippines they ban their national language force them to learn and speak English
@@justinallen9104 Fyi, English is from England not in the USA.
Gusto mo ng wika ko? Edi ito punyeta
@@justinallen9104 Baybayin isn't a language. It's a script. English is a West Germanic language yet developed in England and loaned lots of French and Latin words. Don't boast what you know 'cause you freaking don't know what I know and what I'm capable of.
@@justinallen9104 and to add some spice, your brain is more shit than Satan's.
"We should be speaking Baybayin right!"
-Justine Allen (2020)
You made me laugh! Who in the world will speak a script? Where will you find someone who's capable of speaking a writing system? Shame on you. You freaking don't know the difference.
Also...just a random thought..maybe you even consider Cebuano as a dialect? I'm telling you right now that it's a language. Study more kid :)
Whatifalthist, can you (preferibly soon) make an alt. hist. with the dinos?
I like listening to both the Isolation and colonial alternate history. It’s creatively funny.
Actually it is. The coastal regions and other big cities treat the rest of the nation as their colonies. "Let them eat designer chocolate ice cream" they say.
Me: Sees this video in my main home page.
Also me: Let me just check my mailbox first...
*What if America Went Full Colonial*
Whatifalthist, could you talk about Tartaria? :) The info on it is very mixed, from it being an empty terriroty occupying most of Asia to it being an huge alliance between empires covering most of Asia, Eatern Europe and Middle East. Cheers.
1:00 Even Canada doesn't want California
Who would want that liberal shit hole
@@extremesaiyan7055 and what is Canada ?
Sees burning hell, nah you can stay independent
I was getting upset that you had not mentioned the US's largest colony, Puerto Rico. But you got around to it.
Damn, you have over 100k subs now!
If we went full imperialist we might own Canada, I feel like in WWI we would’ve joined Germany. The US didn’t really like the British at the time but Germany blowing up US ships got us to join on England’s side. If we side with Germany we get Canada and the UK’s other colonies. In the alternate timeline it’s probably still the same that Germany forces Russia out of the war so with America attacking the UK, Germany would be able to win the war in Europe.
Ok so I have been playing some of my favorite Paradox-sponsored map painting game, EU4, and it got me thinking: what would happen if the duchy of Burgundy was never split between the Holy Roman Empire and France after Duke Charles the Bold declared independence from France and was subsequently killed in the ensuing Burgundian Wars. How would an independent Burgundy, with control over the duchies of Burgundy and the Low Countries, fare navigating the political and cultural conflicts of the 15th to 20th Centuries? How would the weakening of France and the HRE as a result of the independence of Burgundy affect and shift future events?
great video dude, altough if this would happend, i would probably never existed, haha. Grettings from mexico
This video is basically, "What if America took after its father , Great Britain?"
You don't go full colonial. You never go full colonial.
Brilliant! How about "What if the Taiping Rebellion Succeeded?"
This Video Was Basically To Please All Of The AltHist Americans Like Me.
@fernando jose gonzalez olguin well in an alt American history you wouldn’t probably have cared cause you would have probably been American
And piss everyone that isn't and has suffered because of the US.
If he actually was historically accurate or knowledgeable... What an ignorant of basic history. No one wanted N. Mexico as it is a DESERT! The border was purposefully drawn THROUGH the desert but South of San Diego(harbor). If GO south of Monterray Mexico then you get into non desert which means Mexico would easily be able to fortify/attack northwards and the USA would have to try logistics in a freaking unpopulated desert before the automobile... Yea as if that was going to happen... Spanish American war, as the invasion of Cuba/Phillipines happened, accords were drawn up WITH native population to GIVE BOTH territories TO the natives in 1898. Worked in Cuba's case, but in Phillipines case, a very basic communication translation error led to the biggest idiotic war(massacre really) and the giving of the Phillipines back to the natives was put back to 1946 instead of 1903 due to said idiotic war as was done in Cuba's case. Then WWII happened and governing Filipino's were massacred and once again it was put back till 1973 or was it 1967? I forget. In either case, the USA had NO wish to keep those territories. None other than a coaling station as done at Cuba Guantonimo bay. Puerto Rico was different, sugar lobby, but it shouldn't have been as a couple decades later sugar beets became sugar source. Nicaragua as a canal was never going to happen with their technology and large native population. Panama was chosen for the canal SPECIFICALLY because there were NO NATIVES living there. NONE. And because the French had already started it. The Yucatan had same problem Panama Canal(Disease) and would never have happened until drugs were developed. No one could live there with the current climate. People did thousands of years ago because of climate change.
@@w8stral Damn Dude, You Didn't Have To Write A Whole Fucking Essay
What would you suggest for a reading list of books on the profitability or lack thereof in African colonies/companies?
1:03 Not even canadians want california.
I thought you were going to include the knights of the golden circle into this video
M A N I F E S T D E S T I N Y
Imagine one Power Ruling an Entire Continent
Australia?
Reject republic, *return to colony*