Chatter: More opportunities will come! Pomu: I don’t think so. Maybe not here, unfortunately. Damn man that’s so sad. I hope she finds freedom wherever her next adventures are.
@@CyanDumBell_MCThe consequences of going public and the track record of Niji handling foreign branches in the first place isn't exactly steller so maybe this is just the foregone conclusion
She could just be referring to NijiEN. Seeing how passionate she and the subtle hints in her wording, maybe she'll be back. I'm not trying to explicitly speculate, especially when it's based off the words of the Vtuber themselves. Plus alot of vtubers come back, so I mean we never know, ya know?
@@nakimushi11 dude same. I almost thought i was Like, "WAIT when did i get a Membie? I never had a Membie here." its trully saddening to see her Cry 😢
I hope she'll reincarnate, she did say it's her passion. Hopefully she can keep going with more creative freedom. Plus "other creative avenues" is a pretty blatant statement
@@JayEdelgardVT She might explore what is out there, streaming as a job can kind of limit you, you live in this "bubble", having more of an online life and less of a offline life. So I hope she really explores life, it opens the mind and shows you a lot of stuff, even things you forgotten. I think that is vital
@@JayEdelgardVT Not quite. She might be involved in the creative sphere in other ways. I feel like the "same time next week?" Might have been the biggest hint especially because she didn't clarify that that wasn't a joke. But maybe I'm just coping because I miss my oshi 😔
This seems to be a very common thing in niji from past and present members. "I spent a lot of time setting up a thing and then last second management told me no"
It is super sad when she realizes that she will not have opportunities to grow, not because of lack of motivation or talent, but because her company is simply not interested in promoting them.
Unfortunately that’s the japanese idol industry in a nutshell. All their talents are just products. And once they’ve done the intial advertizing, they don’t care to invest in the product any further. There may be a few companies that do further invest in their talents, but they’re few and far between. And even those don’t usually spend too much of their own money to do it.
@@Zeke1460 There's a difference between "not further investing in their talents" and "actively preventing the talents to invest into themselves". Most only do the former, Kurosanji does the latter. In fact, as seen with Selen, they're even going a step further, shutting down projects that their talents have already completed and invested money into because "it wasn't whitelisted by management". I hope future talents joining up to Nijisanji learn their lesson: The company only exists to exploit your novelty, so only use the company to catapult you into the spotlight and use that to find a better long-term employer asap.
I keep coming back to the clip of MataraKan when she had her first meeting with Vshojo management, how she had full blown culture shock when they were asking simple things like, "What can we do to help you succeed?" I'm a bit out of the know as I haven't really watched many streams from Niji talents, but that was eye opening. And then later to hear about what happened with Selen's privated stream. Again, I don't even watch her and I heard the splash back of how badly their management f'ed up.
The part where she says 'not here' i think is the saddest part of all. Obviously she's gotta be kinda cryptic about it, but it's very hard to not trace the lines to opportunities being unavailable while being in Nijisanji, which is a crazy thing to think about. A company of that size being literally unable to secure new opportunities for itself and its staff because its focus is clearly elsewhere.
I don't think they're unable, I think they're very purposefully sabotaging their talents as retribution for whatever. She said she'd been offered the opportunity and *then* got told no. By whom, I wonder. She's very diplomatic about it, but I think as fans we can't afford to give niji that much grace.
I wish it was just them being unable to secure opportunities. That'd be a bad flaw but an honest one. Everything that we got to know about the company this past year indicates that the opportunities are very much present and available, but for some godforsaken, inexplicable reason Nijisanji is actively cutting their talents off from them and sabotaging personal projects. It's like, they want their brand entirely self-contained with neither the talents or other companies building on it. NijiEN had so much potential. So so much. With how well things were going for some time, and how much more tailored they were to a western audience, I could even had seen them outgrowing HoloEN. But their long list of awful mistakes and their inability to learn from them damaged the branch to a point of beyond saving. Reputation-wise 100%.
I couldn't hear all of what she was saying even in the unprivated VOD, poor girl was on the verge of bursting into tears 🥲. However, from what I get, there was supposedly an "opportunity" that was initially offered to Pomu, but then she got promptly denied without any clear explanation/"negotiation"? That is quite...something, to say the least
I believe she made the best choice for herself, and she definitely thought about her decision a lot, and I am glad she had the courage to go. Was a very difficult decision, graduating is much harder than debuting, when you know how much people were there watching the streams and having a better, happier days because of her. Maybe she wont come back to streaming, but as long as she can be herself and not feel so suppressed, I will be proud of her. Dont be sad it ended, be glad it happened! PP energy forever
I'm more glad she chose to leave because she really does want to pursue something she really have wanted and decided to go to college. I hope people can understand this because being an online creator isn't any better to a 9-5 job.
@@Zliarx exactly, Pomu being the free and adventurous spirit she is, it is understandable how draining it can get when you have to follow all rules and narratives of the employer/company. Dealing with the same kind of issues so many times. Unfortunately it does not get easier for our beloved talents, when it all seems to be getting even more strict, but what do we know.
I feel like with some of the recent graduations we've seen like with Mysta and Mika, they've known they were going to graduate for at least 6-12 months prior to their graduation date so it doesn't surprise me anymore
Mika stated she put her graduation notice a YEAR before she finally graduated. Now, clearly the bullshit happening with Mika vs. what was happening with Mysta are different, but regardless, the pretty much is the same. They realized this was the best they were going to get from Nijisanji and they left beceause it wasn't worth staying for. @@startownsend7517
@@startownsend7517 I do hope, they will be able to tell us their thoughts on graduation, sometimes it shock you. You can still expect them to announce it, just I wish more of them actually told us that it will likely happen or not happen.
One of the reasons why we should never forgive the kurosanji and keep their yacht sinking. Hope you back soon, forget all the sorrow and pain you had and start a new life as you want it to be as you deserve it. Virtual hug to you girl. ❤
Given her job issues in the past, I was a bit annoyed that she had to go through that again. It sucks but leaving was a good call considering all the new stuff.
@@MrHoneuma Real talk, I hope Pomu can join Holo. She's a _perfect_ fit for them with her creativity, idol fixation, cursed gremlin-ness and general charisma.
@@DinnerForkTongue To be honest, she deserves a break and a change, that she feels like she needs. From one idol corp to another idol corp, I know holo is different, but still. Just wish for her to be happy and at peace, I know she struggled with anxiety a lot, so it might be because of her job.
@@DinnerForkTongue let her take a break for a while, holo just debut en3 i don't think they will debut new gen again for a while because their studio already too packed unless some gen graduate to make space
Aww, poor Pomu. It breaks my heart to see her so distraught. I hope she has bigger opportunities outside of Nijisanji. Wherever she goes, she'll have my full support. Whatever this opportunity is, I i sincerely hope she gets another chance. It's so frustrating that the last 5 members i watched (Yugo, Nina, Mysta, Mika, now Pomu) all had moments of being creatively stunted. It seems to be a big factor for leaving. I wish her success and happiness in her future endeavors.
I saw a comment that it may have been the Metal Gear Solid thing that Calli ended up promoting. Apparently she was the third person considered, so it'd make sense that Pomu, a huge MGS fan, would be so excited for the opportunity to be given to her, and to be so frustrated by having it denied.
@@holographicwing Last year's voice pack is on (re)sale until the 30th at 2359 jst / 0959 est / 0659 pst, so it might be too early for them to fire her and unperson her. Plus they might be trying to avoid embarrassing themselves in front of their shareholders by losing their two biggest female streamers in the same calendar month for the same reason, so that might also be why they haven't published the termination notice yet despite her having been suspended for more than 30 days at this point. The start of the new calendar month will be 24 hours and 1 minute after the sale ends, so expect the notice to be published at or shortly after that point. If not then, then they'll very likely wait the day before her contract expires before officially firing her, just to prevent her from doing freelance content creation (and, more importantly, getting paid) in the interim.
This fucking breaks my heart, dude. More than anything else, I hope that Pomu's able to actually chase those opportunities without restriction if she still desires.
I’m at the point where every time a Niji graduates I’m actually happy for them for getting out of the shithole. Literally all of my favorite vtubers are in nijiEN and they’re just constantly getting shit on by their own company
Fans of indie vtubers and most other agencies' vtubers: do not want their oshi to graduate, because they love their oshi Fans of Nijisanji vtubers: *DO* want their oshi to graduate, because they love their oshi (and plan to follow their "new" oshi upon their debut elsewhere)
A tiny bit of added context for this clip: this stream took place approximately 7 months before her graduation announcement. I had the sorrowful honor of being present for this stream live. I knew frustrations were mounting but this exact moment was the first time I feared that she might actually be leaving. I coped by telling myself she loves Nijisanji, her friends, and her community too much to actually do it, but it seems I sorely underestimated her ambitions for something more and the frustrations of feeling stagnant and held down, likewise for Mika. Even though I’m positive both of them will appear again in some other form, I can’t help but mourn the effective death of Pomu Rainpuff and Mika Melatika as I knew them; They rocked those avatars as extensions of themselves so well. Regardless, I wish them the best and I am woefully sorry things just simply didn’t work out at Nijisanji as much as we wanted it to.
Holy shit, now that I hear this was 7 months ago, I couldn't imagine the silent terror Pomudachis could have felt when Uki did Pomu's reading. Condolences and hope you guys may find her in this vast internet space sometime later 🫂
Sad to see her go Happy to see her find better places If fate allows, I hope we see her again. And if we cross paths, hopefully we'll remember and welcome her back grandly.
Pomu had everything set up to have the levels of popularity to go toe to toe with just about any EN Vtuber and Niji management couldn't help but fuck it all up. Wherever you go, there's enough people to populate a small nation that want to see you succeed and hit the heights you always should have. Godspeed, goofy fairy.
Making the old defunct Niji livers EN managers was such a huge mistake. This girl put every bit of energy she had into raising the branch up and paving the way for it to grow to where its at, and this is how they treated her. Actually disgusting tbh.
@@liesandy291 After reading the contract, it sounds more like a 3rd party wanted rights to some part of Pomu's IP. Niji being Niji wouldn't let it happen.
i bet 1000 bucks that it was the Metal Gear solid collab. knowing pomu she would not be this distraught over other stuff. sad yes but she goes into it and immediately burst into tears. that's biggest fan emotions. She got literally cucked by niji to be directly associated with metal gear in an official capacity.
Agreed, I saw calli got the MGS song and was like "what? She doesn't even like MGS, wasted opportunity. Everyone knows pomu's the MGS Vtuber" Now it sounds like she never got a chance, and that sucks
@@YesnaughtShe doesn't like MGS? MGS was one of the games she wanted to play along with Persona during her debut year. I can understand disappointment that Metal Gear Pomu didn't get the collab, but it's also not good to spread misinformation and make it seem like she only wanted the perms for the bag.
This is definitely a Konami thing. They are so asinine. They gave Nijisanji exclusive MGS perms that Cover couldn't touch for no reason, playing favorites. Then out of nowhere, they finally lift the exclusivity and then partners with Cover all of a sudden. I bet there was some back door fuckery between Niji and Konami that must have gone sour.
This sounds like the company was a cage for Pomu. She is a natural comedian and really creative, so I feel like its good that she left for her sake. I wish her all the best for the future.
Same here. I've only known NijiEN through some clips but I still am very well conscious of the enormous impact they've had in the Vtuber industry as a whole, specially Pomu, since she's considered one of the founding members of NijiEN. I wish nothing but the best for her in the future💚
Man that was heartbreaking and I don't even really follow Pomu or Niji. I didn't even really know there was this big behind the scenes issue with management until recently. I really hope that whatever she decides to do next, vtuber or not, lands her in a better place that won't deny her these big opportunities. I wish the best for all of them.
Well, Nijisanji will never be the same without Pomu. For me at least. We lost a lot of livers but... losing pomu is different, it is like a goodbye that you truly cannot accept. I only wish her the best on her new journey.
It was tough, but Im really glad we got 2 weeks of hanging out and gradually prepping ourselves. She also did amazingly at making those last streams fun and not so serious. Although I got really sad in the final minecraft stream. Still this is million times better than her being terminated and not knowing about why or what. There would be no prepping, no last good moments together, just straight shock
It's weird, but, assuming the rumours are true... I'm glad in a way? I know that the place Pomu is rumoured to be going to is a much better working environment, and I just want her to be happy.
Pomu was one of the few Vtubers that I would actually watch on stream when I saw her doing something I was into, and she was always entertaining and had me smiling. I'll miss her and wish she hadn't had to leave, but hope that her life will be better off elsewhere. With any luck we'll see a different studio pick her up, as we all know she certainly has the talent and drive to engage with viewers and make our days better, perhaps even going independant and able to do her own thing without worry.
@@DiGreatDestroyer Looks like the capt cha system to register for the forum gave me brain damage. I don’t know what website to post this. Recommend me the names of any forums out there.
Someone with the creative drive like hers shouldt be restrained, but encouraged. She proved time and time again that she's capable of amazing things, even if they come out of her own pocket. So going to where she can actually be supported to achieve the goals she set for herself more than as a streamer but as an entertainer, is definitely the right direction after all the growth she got and the validation she got from being given an audience. She deserves it, she deserves all the love and support and she deserves to go forward with whatever goals she sets for herself from here on!
Its hard not to think about what could have been, it must have been a huge bubble bursting and disappointment, being accepted into your dream job and slowly realizing that you can do everything right and still lose. Some doors once closed will never open again for Pomu or any of us. I dont believe that Pomu will come back, at least not for a long time. I only hope that she can find the drive and inspiration again.
Farewell Pomu, I will miss you and may you soar wherever you go and whatever comes next. Good luck, fare well, and know wherever you go you take all of us with you
It sounds like nijiSanji might have too much talent and might not have the ability to make the bigger ideas of its more ambitious talent a reality. Hopefully she can push forward with her dreams and make her star brighter.
thats their own fucking fault. they keep churning out new waves. its a deliberate choice. and to be frank i doubt even if they didn't pump out half baked debuts they would still fuck over the talents. we KNOW what they pay for and they pay for practically NOTHING, not even debuts are supported. the talents have to mostly do anything themselves, so even the number of talents is irrelevant since they do not financially support them mostly anyway. 2%!!!
Man, moments like this make me so sad because although I didn't watch her, that's someone's oshi. I hope she's able to make those opportunities for herself, it's much harder getting taken seriously without some form of corporate structure behind you as an indie; and I hope her fans are able to heal from this soon. She was a good egg who seemed really respective and appreciative of vtubing culture as a whole. I always hoped for a collab with one of my oshi's, Ami.
The best case scenario: She is raidio silent for 6 month and suddenly we get a girl with similar voice in Holo EN4. That will be a happy ending for Pomu.
I'm sorry but if you're mistreating one of your fundamental pillar talents to the point where she can't fight frustration and tears and has to deal with her emotions live on stream, you're just trash of a company, no two ways about it.
Jumping ship before the behind-the-scenes could make her content decline in quality was the best decision Pomu has made in recent times. Nijisanji was good for her in the past, but those times are _gone._
Right now, I can Imagine in 10 years, in a decade. We will see almost all of the vtuber that we love. Will making graduation stream. And longer the vtuber "alive" the sadder we become😢 And maybe there's no reincarnate in that case...
They took down the vod for this clip. Make sure to archive this since they might copyright strike. Just 1 more promise break to send her of. Thank you Nijisanji.
Kurosanji is never beating the black company allegations. Three years of hard work and dedication for this company, and this is the way they treat her. Here's to hoping she finds a different company that will actually work with her and allow her to flourish and grow, rather than try to shut her down at every step of the way.
All things considered it probably was the metal gear collab the timing is just too good without mentioning she is not alien to jp corpos, her connections and her wording. I hope she makes it bigger than she can imagine wherever she goes now.
So many things happened and they were tragic. Mel got terminated, my favorite burger joint is closing down, one teacher I knew at work died of cancer and now Pomu graduated. Is this something normies will tell me to get over it and touch grass or is this just life. Life being unfair and unpredictable. I’ll continue to put on a brave face because it’s all I can do. Just try to spend the most time with your oshis,friends, co-workers and families. You just never know when it’s time to go.
that is part of life. of all unfairness in this life, we had to create the best not just memories, not just for ourselves, but also all kind of things for those around us, who stay after we leave.
I don't really think that she can regret anything about all of this. It s sad that our time ended like that and sure us and she may be regretting unfortunately this thing. but I don't really think that she can blame herself for it. It s just unfortunate.
Our Precious Pomu 😭 hope you can have a better life and able to grasp the "opportunity" by yourself once it comes again after the graduation from NijiEN💐🎓
Virtual hugs to all her fans. I know it hurts. The first couple times disnt hurt much but losing Mel did. Stay strong guys. I only ever watched a couple of her stream and she was kinda funny and sweet. ❤ lemme know of she has any other alt Ch. I'll watch her more often.
I feel very sorry for Pomu and now she's gone. Pomu's an exception because NijiEN was a new thing but anyone joining now you cant be surprised they only want you to stream
She created so many memories here in Nijisanji. Hopefully, in her bright new future, Pomu can achieve those goals that were unobtainable in Nijisanji. #WEAREPOMU
I sincerely hope she can finally let her wings spread wide and proud, and pursue the full depths of her heart’s ambitions where there are no more limitations to her creativity and passion.
I would love it if she showed up in Vshojo, they’re a much better company than Niji who actually lets their talents do what they want to do. She could collab with Kiara still that way since we’ve had multiple hololive-vshojo collabs.
@@MrFryTastic I don't think VShojo have the production capacity to support someone like Pomu in terms of concerts and shows, but it's a better place for streamers for sure.
@@cikame Vshojo are the best place for "content creator" if i have to say, while Holo are more idol minded, so it's really depend on the goal, if you want freedom to make content, go for vshojo, or if you want a bunch of concert, making album, and tour around then it's Holo
i just hope Pomu has fun and gets lots of great opportunities doing whatever comes next for her. not sure why Nijisanji has such a high turnover rate for talent but they should probably start reevaluating how they manage people, not just EN either it seems like all the branches have issues. pure speculation but maybe they don’t have enough managers per talents?
They don't have high turnover rate, 85% of their talents in JP are in there. Id and kr died as a branch so they had mass gradations while in EN while its mismanaged they only lost 3 leaving by their own choice.
@@ausgod538 Across their entire company they had a graduation or termination EVERY month last year. Yes, with the shotgun method they take to debuting talent, the numbers percentage-wise won't catch up to them for a good while but pretending there aren't massive issues within the management side of things is blind faith at best. Anycolor has a history of poor and/or bizarre decisions on the upper-management levels across all of their branches. From older issues like the Mururu situation and newer ones like Gundou on the JP side, to cutting the legs out from under ID and KR, a fate which now could very well be looming for EN as well. It's becoming more and more apparent that the business strategy of throwing a ton of talent at the screen and seeing which ones stick has rapidly blown past what they have the management infrastructure to effectively support, but despite this Anycolor seems to have no inclination to pivot from the strategy. Throw on top of that their impeccable ability to completely ignore optics and consistently burn down the good will of their communities and it's a perfect storm for negativity to fester. Time will tell just how much this comes to bite them, but if only for the talents' sakes I very much hope the powers that be in Niji can right the ship.
Hopefully whatever that opportunity was will come again in the form of something better for her. She really was too good for Niji's management. Wishing her all the best.
Wherever the Queen of All Forest Fairies go in her next ventures, may she found what she desired. P.S: If I can tell Queen Pomu, it will be this: Do or do not. There is no try.
Damn I hope wherever she goes or does next she gets to do the opportunities she didn't have at Niji. I wonder if it was the Niji Concert that was cancelled last minute that EN all prepared for or the MGS collab ?
Really felt like Niji missed the boat with Pomu. She had all the tools to give anyone in HoloEN a run for their money - funny, talent, a joy to be around. However, it just seems like Niji just wants to handcuff their talents. Honestly, I hope she is the friend Matara mentioned wanting to bring over. She deserves better. I'm really sorry for her fans. Honestly, they deserve better than to watch their Oshi, broken hearted, as she rides off in to the sunset, knowing that's it. I'm sorry, y'all. I hope you find her again somewhere down the road.
I can't help thinking how crazy hot she would get (she's already so amazing) if she were in an agency like hololive that invest a lot in their talents and provide alot of support. Maybe not exactly, but Pomu's situation reminds me of Suisei when she was in Inonaka before getting transferred over to Hololive. Nijisanji gives me the impression of quantity over quality. Maybe their business model is less working on their talents, and more about finding that golden egg. Hire alot, retire alot. Rinse and repeat.
I still remember seeing this live. It sucks that Pomu had this situation happen. Hopefully she won't have a situation like this again. She deserves all the happiness in the world💚
Chatter: More opportunities will come!
Pomu: I don’t think so. Maybe not here, unfortunately.
Damn man that’s so sad. I hope she finds freedom wherever her next adventures are.
It is a great reminder for all of us, how much is "change" essential part of our lives.
And i thought the redeeming quality of Nijisanji is freedom
@@vkarvanzer4243 in the past they were more lenient than today.
@@CyanDumBell_MCThe consequences of going public and the track record of Niji handling foreign branches in the first place isn't exactly steller so maybe this is just the foregone conclusion
She could just be referring to NijiEN. Seeing how passionate she and the subtle hints in her wording, maybe she'll be back. I'm not trying to explicitly speculate, especially when it's based off the words of the Vtuber themselves. Plus alot of vtubers come back, so I mean we never know, ya know?
Just to clarify: She unprivated ALL her member streams.
Ah so that explains why SO MANY Pomu's older streams suddenly got recommended to me in all of sudden. Massive respect to her though.
@@nakimushi11 dude same. I almost thought i was Like, "WAIT when did i get a Membie? I never had a Membie here." its trully saddening to see her Cry 😢
I assume so they aren't lost to the void when her membership gets turned off
Pomu my one and only kami oshi in NijiEN is not a mistake after all. It is unfortunate we are in the current timeline where she has to graduate.
I was also confused why they only had to clip this when all her membership streams were unprivated
Hopefully starting tomorrow Pomu can live her life without having to speak in riddles all the time.
Yes
I hope she'll reincarnate, she did say it's her passion. Hopefully she can keep going with more creative freedom. Plus "other creative avenues" is a pretty blatant statement
@@JayEdelgardVT She might explore what is out there, streaming as a job can kind of limit you, you live in this "bubble", having more of an online life and less of a offline life. So I hope she really explores life, it opens the mind and shows you a lot of stuff, even things you forgotten. I think that is vital
She gonna create a new vtuber agency.
@@JayEdelgardVT Not quite. She might be involved in the creative sphere in other ways. I feel like the "same time next week?" Might have been the biggest hint especially because she didn't clarify that that wasn't a joke. But maybe I'm just coping because I miss my oshi 😔
This seems to be a very common thing in niji from past and present members. "I spent a lot of time setting up a thing and then last second management told me no"
Not just last second, but even published ones too. Sips coffee.
It is super sad when she realizes that she will not have opportunities to grow, not because of lack of motivation or talent, but because her company is simply not interested in promoting them.
Unfortunately that’s the japanese idol industry in a nutshell. All their talents are just products. And once they’ve done the intial advertizing, they don’t care to invest in the product any further.
There may be a few companies that do further invest in their talents, but they’re few and far between. And even those don’t usually spend too much of their own money to do it.
@@Zeke1460but Nijisanji Isn't an idol company nor do they tout themselves as such, so your entire argument is moot
@@Zeke1460 There's a difference between "not further investing in their talents" and "actively preventing the talents to invest into themselves". Most only do the former, Kurosanji does the latter. In fact, as seen with Selen, they're even going a step further, shutting down projects that their talents have already completed and invested money into because "it wasn't whitelisted by management". I hope future talents joining up to Nijisanji learn their lesson: The company only exists to exploit your novelty, so only use the company to catapult you into the spotlight and use that to find a better long-term employer asap.
@@Zeke1460 Nijisanji is NOT an idol industry.
I keep coming back to the clip of MataraKan when she had her first meeting with Vshojo management, how she had full blown culture shock when they were asking simple things like, "What can we do to help you succeed?"
I'm a bit out of the know as I haven't really watched many streams from Niji talents, but that was eye opening. And then later to hear about what happened with Selen's privated stream. Again, I don't even watch her and I heard the splash back of how badly their management f'ed up.
The part where she says 'not here' i think is the saddest part of all. Obviously she's gotta be kinda cryptic about it, but it's very hard to not trace the lines to opportunities being unavailable while being in Nijisanji, which is a crazy thing to think about. A company of that size being literally unable to secure new opportunities for itself and its staff because its focus is clearly elsewhere.
I don't think they're unable, I think they're very purposefully sabotaging their talents as retribution for whatever.
She said she'd been offered the opportunity and *then* got told no. By whom, I wonder.
She's very diplomatic about it, but I think as fans we can't afford to give niji that much grace.
It's really ironic tho. So many people thought that Nijisanji is that vtuber company that can give you "freedom" and lax.
@@Zliarx that's hololive
I wish it was just them being unable to secure opportunities. That'd be a bad flaw but an honest one. Everything that we got to know about the company this past year indicates that the opportunities are very much present and available, but for some godforsaken, inexplicable reason Nijisanji is actively cutting their talents off from them and sabotaging personal projects. It's like, they want their brand entirely self-contained with neither the talents or other companies building on it. NijiEN had so much potential. So so much. With how well things were going for some time, and how much more tailored they were to a western audience, I could even had seen them outgrowing HoloEN. But their long list of awful mistakes and their inability to learn from them damaged the branch to a point of beyond saving. Reputation-wise 100%.
I couldn't hear all of what she was saying even in the unprivated VOD, poor girl was on the verge of bursting into tears 🥲.
However, from what I get, there was supposedly an "opportunity" that was initially offered to Pomu, but then she got promptly denied without any clear explanation/"negotiation"?
That is quite...something, to say the least
I believe she made the best choice for herself, and she definitely thought about her decision a lot, and I am glad she had the courage to go. Was a very difficult decision, graduating is much harder than debuting, when you know how much people were there watching the streams and having a better, happier days because of her. Maybe she wont come back to streaming, but as long as she can be herself and not feel so suppressed, I will be proud of her. Dont be sad it ended, be glad it happened! PP energy forever
I'm more glad she chose to leave because she really does want to pursue something she really have wanted and decided to go to college. I hope people can understand this because being an online creator isn't any better to a 9-5 job.
Oh she decided to go to college? do you have sourced for this? @@Zliarx
@@kyoudaiken she talked about it on one of her streams after the announcement, you can find it if you search "pomu plans after graduation"
@@Zliarx exactly, Pomu being the free and adventurous spirit she is, it is understandable how draining it can get when you have to follow all rules and narratives of the employer/company. Dealing with the same kind of issues so many times. Unfortunately it does not get easier for our beloved talents, when it all seems to be getting even more strict, but what do we know.
PP ENERGY FOREVER!
This was streamed 8 months ago. I knew she had her frustrations but I didn't realize they were this bad this far back.
ikkkrr :(
I feel like with some of the recent graduations we've seen like with Mysta and Mika, they've known they were going to graduate for at least 6-12 months prior to their graduation date so it doesn't surprise me anymore
Mika stated she put her graduation notice a YEAR before she finally graduated. Now, clearly the bullshit happening with Mika vs. what was happening with Mysta are different, but regardless, the pretty much is the same. They realized this was the best they were going to get from Nijisanji and they left beceause it wasn't worth staying for. @@startownsend7517
@@startownsend7517 I do hope, they will be able to tell us their thoughts on graduation, sometimes it shock you. You can still expect them to announce it, just I wish more of them actually told us that it will likely happen or not happen.
Wait... oh, no way. This hits harder knowing that it wasn't a recent thing
One of the reasons why we should never forgive the kurosanji and keep their yacht sinking. Hope you back soon, forget all the sorrow and pain you had and start a new life as you want it to be as you deserve it. Virtual hug to you girl. ❤
RUN SELEN! RUN AND DON’T LOOK BACK!
oh well.....
aged like milk
That she did, ran back to her past for a better future. She's free now, and we'll always welcome her in open arms.
Doki is doing better than ever.
Roach mom gonna fix. It’s gonna be ok
And Nijisanji privated it to “avoid backlash” only for us to start riot.
Streisand effect is real. 😂
Given her job issues in the past, I was a bit annoyed that she had to go through that again. It sucks but leaving was a good call considering all the new stuff.
This just so sad, opportunity doesn't come easily once let alone twice
i wish her the best in the future wherever she deside to do. Thanks for everything pomu 🤗.
I like the part where they privated the video again.
So sad how they didn't give Pomu oppurtunities. .. I'm sure where ever she goes she will be much more happy.
Looking at Mata-mama, I say yes, yes she will.
@@DinnerForkTongueEspecially if the destination is the same
@@MrHoneuma Real talk, I hope Pomu can join Holo. She's a _perfect_ fit for them with her creativity, idol fixation, cursed gremlin-ness and general charisma.
@@DinnerForkTongue To be honest, she deserves a break and a change, that she feels like she needs. From one idol corp to another idol corp, I know holo is different, but still. Just wish for her to be happy and at peace, I know she struggled with anxiety a lot, so it might be because of her job.
@@DinnerForkTongue let her take a break for a while, holo just debut en3 i don't think they will debut new gen again for a while because their studio already too packed unless some gen graduate to make space
Aww, poor Pomu. It breaks my heart to see her so distraught. I hope she has bigger opportunities outside of Nijisanji. Wherever she goes, she'll have my full support. Whatever this opportunity is, I i sincerely hope she gets another chance.
It's so frustrating that the last 5 members i watched (Yugo, Nina, Mysta, Mika, now Pomu) all had moments of being creatively stunted. It seems to be a big factor for leaving. I wish her success and happiness in her future endeavors.
I saw a comment that it may have been the Metal Gear Solid thing that Calli ended up promoting. Apparently she was the third person considered, so it'd make sense that Pomu, a huge MGS fan, would be so excited for the opportunity to be given to her, and to be so frustrated by having it denied.
i mean yugos reason for leaving is alot more complicated than just creativity, so trying to blame that on nijisanji doesn't make sense.
@@holographicwing Last year's voice pack is on (re)sale until the 30th at 2359 jst / 0959 est / 0659 pst, so it might be too early for them to fire her and unperson her. Plus they might be trying to avoid embarrassing themselves in front of their shareholders by losing their two biggest female streamers in the same calendar month for the same reason, so that might also be why they haven't published the termination notice yet despite her having been suspended for more than 30 days at this point.
The start of the new calendar month will be 24 hours and 1 minute after the sale ends, so expect the notice to be published at or shortly after that point. If not then, then they'll very likely wait the day before her contract expires before officially firing her, just to prevent her from doing freelance content creation (and, more importantly, getting paid) in the interim.
They could be anycolor but they choose to be a black company.
This fucking breaks my heart, dude.
More than anything else, I hope that Pomu's able to actually chase those opportunities without restriction if she still desires.
I’m at the point where every time a Niji graduates I’m actually happy for them for getting out of the shithole. Literally all of my favorite vtubers are in nijiEN and they’re just constantly getting shit on by their own company
Fans of indie vtubers and most other agencies' vtubers: do not want their oshi to graduate, because they love their oshi
Fans of Nijisanji vtubers: *DO* want their oshi to graduate, because they love their oshi (and plan to follow their "new" oshi upon their debut elsewhere)
Poor Mint :(
I hope something special comes her way now and she gets to fly to new heights!
A tiny bit of added context for this clip: this stream took place approximately 7 months before her graduation announcement. I had the sorrowful honor of being present for this stream live. I knew frustrations were mounting but this exact moment was the first time I feared that she might actually be leaving. I coped by telling myself she loves Nijisanji, her friends, and her community too much to actually do it, but it seems I sorely underestimated her ambitions for something more and the frustrations of feeling stagnant and held down, likewise for Mika.
Even though I’m positive both of them will appear again in some other form, I can’t help but mourn the effective death of Pomu Rainpuff and Mika Melatika as I knew them; They rocked those avatars as extensions of themselves so well. Regardless, I wish them the best and I am woefully sorry things just simply didn’t work out at Nijisanji as much as we wanted it to.
Holy shit, now that I hear this was 7 months ago, I couldn't imagine the silent terror Pomudachis could have felt when Uki did Pomu's reading. Condolences and hope you guys may find her in this vast internet space sometime later 🫂
I'm so sorry, may I ask what opportunity it is? :(
Is she hinting about the metal gear collab
@@dragb9284 many seem to think so
Any company that can turn a happy bubly person to this sobbing mess. Is not to be trusted.
Sad to see her go
Happy to see her find better places
If fate allows, I hope we see her again.
And if we cross paths, hopefully we'll remember and welcome her back grandly.
I have little doubt we'll recognize her.
Pomu had everything set up to have the levels of popularity to go toe to toe with just about any EN Vtuber and Niji management couldn't help but fuck it all up.
Wherever you go, there's enough people to populate a small nation that want to see you succeed and hit the heights you always should have. Godspeed, goofy fairy.
Making the old defunct Niji livers EN managers was such a huge mistake. This girl put every bit of energy she had into raising the branch up and paving the way for it to grow to where its at, and this is how they treated her. Actually disgusting tbh.
It sounds like something she really wanted to do and management didnt do their damn job.
She said it was a no without any way to negotiate. (I smell sabotage a miles away).
@@liesandy291 After reading the contract, it sounds more like a 3rd party wanted rights to some part of Pomu's IP. Niji being Niji wouldn't let it happen.
It sucks how much they all were mistreated in that company. It's unbelievable.
I'll stick her to my prayers.
A long, happy life for her.
i will stick the same ....
"3rd times the charm", this time for HoloEN4
Idk if she'll come back as a new vtuber but if she does, the first words of her debut better be "Kept you waiting, huh?"
Lots of people will cry at that moment
"Sup bitches, bet you thought you saw the last of me."
@@Spontaneousanonymous000 what was her past life, just say the name
Full Solid Snake.
@@AStandsForFrench Mint Fantome.
i bet 1000 bucks that it was the Metal Gear solid collab.
knowing pomu she would not be this distraught over other stuff. sad yes but she goes into it and immediately burst into tears. that's biggest fan emotions. She got literally cucked by niji to be directly associated with metal gear in an official capacity.
It could be what Calli from Hololive got singing the cover of Snake Eater.
Agreed, I saw calli got the MGS song and was like "what? She doesn't even like MGS, wasted opportunity. Everyone knows pomu's the MGS Vtuber"
Now it sounds like she never got a chance, and that sucks
@@YesnaughtShe doesn't like MGS? MGS was one of the games she wanted to play along with Persona during her debut year. I can understand disappointment that Metal Gear Pomu didn't get the collab, but it's also not good to spread misinformation and make it seem like she only wanted the perms for the bag.
This is definitely a Konami thing. They are so asinine. They gave Nijisanji exclusive MGS perms that Cover couldn't touch for no reason, playing favorites. Then out of nowhere, they finally lift the exclusivity and then partners with Cover all of a sudden. I bet there was some back door fuckery between Niji and Konami that must have gone sour.
@@josephmccafferty4172 its not a snake eater cover bruh
This sounds like the company was a cage for Pomu. She is a natural comedian and really creative, so I feel like its good that she left for her sake. I wish her all the best for the future.
I'm not a frequent Nisanji viewer but here's hoping to Pomu's future endeavors.
Same here. I've only known NijiEN through some clips but I still am very well conscious of the enormous impact they've had in the Vtuber industry as a whole, specially Pomu, since she's considered one of the founding members of NijiEN. I wish nothing but the best for her in the future💚
Now Yt is recommending me this again, god damn it.
Man that was heartbreaking and I don't even really follow Pomu or Niji. I didn't even really know there was this big behind the scenes issue with management until recently. I really hope that whatever she decides to do next, vtuber or not, lands her in a better place that won't deny her these big opportunities. I wish the best for all of them.
So far haven't seen anyone leave niji and not clearly be happier after they did.
did you? please list the 50 graduations and wht happened
@@ausgod538 lolno
@@ausgod538 Gatekeeping because you're salty is not a good look.
Well, Nijisanji will never be the same without Pomu. For me at least.
We lost a lot of livers but... losing pomu is different, it is like a goodbye that you truly cannot accept. I only wish her the best on her new journey.
Wrong button
Didn't mean to dislike
It was tough, but Im really glad we got 2 weeks of hanging out and gradually prepping ourselves. She also did amazingly at making those last streams fun and not so serious. Although I got really sad in the final minecraft stream. Still this is million times better than her being terminated and not knowing about why or what. There would be no prepping, no last good moments together, just straight shock
Yeah, and one of the original Gen 1 Lazulight members to boot. Losing one of the OGs is never a good sign for an agency.
@@SusDoorknob then change it? why mention it when dislikes do nothing anyway?
It's weird, but, assuming the rumours are true... I'm glad in a way? I know that the place Pomu is rumoured to be going to is a much better working environment, and I just want her to be happy.
Power to you for uploading this clip,
if Ichikara tries anything the community has your back.
Pomu was one of the few Vtubers that I would actually watch on stream when I saw her doing something I was into, and she was always entertaining and had me smiling. I'll miss her and wish she hadn't had to leave, but hope that her life will be better off elsewhere. With any luck we'll see a different studio pick her up, as we all know she certainly has the talent and drive to engage with viewers and make our days better, perhaps even going independant and able to do her own thing without worry.
And the source video has been taken down by NIji. KuroSanji covering their asses
I’m going to screen record this just in case they nuke this one
@@_zerstorer5094 Good stuff, make sure to post if if it's taken down.
@@DiGreatDestroyer I definitely will in a random forum about vtubers
@@DiGreatDestroyer Looks like the capt cha system to register for the forum gave me brain damage. I don’t know what website to post this. Recommend me the names of any forums out there.
Someone with the creative drive like hers shouldt be restrained, but encouraged. She proved time and time again that she's capable of amazing things, even if they come out of her own pocket.
So going to where she can actually be supported to achieve the goals she set for herself more than as a streamer but as an entertainer, is definitely the right direction after all the growth she got and the validation she got from being given an audience.
She deserves it, she deserves all the love and support and she deserves to go forward with whatever goals she sets for herself from here on!
Its hard not to think about what could have been, it must have been a huge bubble bursting and disappointment, being accepted into your dream job and slowly realizing that you can do everything right and still lose. Some doors once closed will never open again for Pomu or any of us. I dont believe that Pomu will come back, at least not for a long time. I only hope that she can find the drive and inspiration again.
Farewell Pomu, I will miss you and may you soar wherever you go and whatever comes next. Good luck, fare well, and know wherever you go you take all of us with you
It sounds like nijiSanji might have too much talent and might not have the ability to make the bigger ideas of its more ambitious talent a reality. Hopefully she can push forward with her dreams and make her star brighter.
I think that's the unfortunate truth. :(
thats their own fucking fault. they keep churning out new waves. its a deliberate choice. and to be frank i doubt even if they didn't pump out half baked debuts they would still fuck over the talents. we KNOW what they pay for and they pay for practically NOTHING, not even debuts are supported. the talents have to mostly do anything themselves, so even the number of talents is irrelevant since they do not financially support them mostly anyway.
2%!!!
This sounds more like all they had to do was not stand in the way of opportunities offered to talents, but decided to do so anyway.
i dott eeven understand that because if left alone their talens would make it hhappen
Bro they have newer jo talents that got heir 3D debuts and mini concerts already before her!!! Niji needs to be taken down so they all cam be freed
Man, moments like this make me so sad because although I didn't watch her, that's someone's oshi. I hope she's able to make those opportunities for herself, it's much harder getting taken seriously without some form of corporate structure behind you as an indie; and I hope her fans are able to heal from this soon. She was a good egg who seemed really respective and appreciative of vtubing culture as a whole. I always hoped for a collab with one of my oshi's, Ami.
I hope she get to collab with Kiara in other shape or forms in the future.
Imagine them flying in the sky having fun together, just like the old days.
Well henya and ina collabed so it’s not impossible.
Kiara loves Pomu she would literally fly to her house at a moments notice if need be
@@NewGuy1414 Here's to hoping kiara and pomu could do it too as well
The best case scenario:
She is raidio silent for 6 month and suddenly we get a girl with similar voice in Holo EN4. That will be a happy ending for Pomu.
@@SenseiRaisenpretty sure holo and niji don't hire each others past talents anymore.
pomu if you're reading this, we love you! we'll follow you wherever you go.
Niji has privated the stream.
Tbh, as sad as it is, I'm glad she left that place
I'm sorry but if you're mistreating one of your fundamental pillar talents to the point where she can't fight frustration and tears and has to deal with her emotions live on stream, you're just trash of a company, no two ways about it.
Jumping ship before the behind-the-scenes could make her content decline in quality was the best decision Pomu has made in recent times. Nijisanji was good for her in the past, but those times are _gone._
Right now, I can Imagine in 10 years, in a decade.
We will see almost all of the vtuber that we love. Will making graduation stream.
And longer the vtuber "alive" the sadder we become😢
And maybe there's no reincarnate in that case...
In the words of a previous commenter from her previous life "i hope to say hi to a familiar stranger someday" till we meet again pomu
They took down the vod for this clip. Make sure to archive this since they might copyright strike. Just 1 more promise break to send her of. Thank you Nijisanji.
Kurosanji is never beating the black company allegations. Three years of hard work and dedication for this company, and this is the way they treat her. Here's to hoping she finds a different company that will actually work with her and allow her to flourish and grow, rather than try to shut her down at every step of the way.
All things considered it probably was the metal gear collab the timing is just too good without mentioning she is not alien to jp corpos, her connections and her wording.
I hope she makes it bigger than she can imagine wherever she goes now.
So many things happened and they were tragic. Mel got terminated, my favorite burger joint is closing down, one teacher I knew at work died of cancer and now Pomu graduated.
Is this something normies will tell me to get over it and touch grass or is this just life. Life being unfair and unpredictable. I’ll continue to put on a brave face because it’s all I can do. Just try to spend the most time with your oshis,friends, co-workers and families. You just never know when it’s time to go.
that is part of life.
of all unfairness in this life, we had to create the best not just memories, not just for ourselves, but also all kind of things for those around us, who stay after we leave.
Anycolor just took down the original vod
Hang in there bro!
Don't kneel to the evil corpo
She wanted us to know
Damn you, ANYCOLOR...
You failed her.
I don't really think that she can regret anything about all of this.
It s sad that our time ended like that and sure us and she may be regretting unfortunately this thing.
but I don't really think that she can blame herself for it.
It s just unfortunate.
Our Precious Pomu 😭 hope you can have a better life and able to grasp the "opportunity" by yourself once it comes again after the graduation from NijiEN💐🎓
This made me cry... 😢❤
Virtual hugs to all her fans. I know it hurts. The first couple times disnt hurt much but losing Mel did. Stay strong guys. I only ever watched a couple of her stream and she was kinda funny and sweet. ❤ lemme know of she has any other alt Ch. I'll watch her more often.
I feel very sorry for Pomu and now she's gone. Pomu's an exception because NijiEN was a new thing but anyone joining now you cant be surprised they only want you to stream
I need to stop watching clips like this my heart is to weak.
She created so many memories here in Nijisanji. Hopefully, in her bright new future, Pomu can achieve those goals that were unobtainable in Nijisanji. #WEAREPOMU
Nijisanji privated this stream smh
I knew it was going to happen. That's why I downloaded it.
@@yoman8027
Cheers, if the clips start going down make sure to post your own.
@@DiGreatDestroyer Oh, I didn't mean the clip, I meant the whole stream. But I also downloaded this clip, just in case.
I sincerely hope she can finally let her wings spread wide and proud, and pursue the full depths of her heart’s ambitions where there are no more limitations to her creativity and passion.
lol they reprivated it lololololololol
leaving was definitely the right move
I'd expect myself to be sad about it but i'm really relieved, and hopeful she pops up again somewhere else.
I would love it if she showed up in Vshojo, they’re a much better company than Niji who actually lets their talents do what they want to do. She could collab with Kiara still that way since we’ve had multiple hololive-vshojo collabs.
@@MrFryTastic I don't think VShojo have the production capacity to support someone like Pomu in terms of concerts and shows, but it's a better place for streamers for sure.
@@cikame Vshojo are the best place for "content creator" if i have to say, while Holo are more idol minded, so it's really depend on the goal, if you want freedom to make content, go for vshojo, or if you want a bunch of concert, making album, and tour around then it's Holo
@@NeroZeroes I was thinking more along the lines of an idol, she wants to get on stage and perform.
i just hope Pomu has fun and gets lots of great opportunities doing whatever comes next for her.
not sure why Nijisanji has such a high turnover rate for talent but they should probably start reevaluating how they manage people, not just EN either it seems like all the branches have issues. pure speculation but maybe they don’t have enough managers per talents?
They don't have high turnover rate, 85% of their talents in JP are in there. Id and kr died as a branch so they had mass gradations while in EN while its mismanaged they only lost 3 leaving by their own choice.
@@ausgod538 Across their entire company they had a graduation or termination EVERY month last year. Yes, with the shotgun method they take to debuting talent, the numbers percentage-wise won't catch up to them for a good while but pretending there aren't massive issues within the management side of things is blind faith at best. Anycolor has a history of poor and/or bizarre decisions on the upper-management levels across all of their branches. From older issues like the Mururu situation and newer ones like Gundou on the JP side, to cutting the legs out from under ID and KR, a fate which now could very well be looming for EN as well. It's becoming more and more apparent that the business strategy of throwing a ton of talent at the screen and seeing which ones stick has rapidly blown past what they have the management infrastructure to effectively support, but despite this Anycolor seems to have no inclination to pivot from the strategy. Throw on top of that their impeccable ability to completely ignore optics and consistently burn down the good will of their communities and it's a perfect storm for negativity to fester. Time will tell just how much this comes to bite them, but if only for the talents' sakes I very much hope the powers that be in Niji can right the ship.
All I want to do while listening to this is give her a hug and have a good cry
"Lel" it's private again... Hope someone will upload the whole VOD ? I haven't see the entire thing yet :'(.
there you have it guys, mystery is solved!
Like someone in chat said i wanna hug her so bad
Poor baby, I feel so bad for her. I hope she has more opportunities in store for her future
Crashing niji with no survivors
Niji doing niji things, not surprised. Good thing she finally got out.
Glad she got out and can hopefully do more of the things she wants to do
Hopefully whatever that opportunity was will come again in the form of something better for her. She really was too good for Niji's management. Wishing her all the best.
Wherever the Queen of All Forest Fairies go in her next ventures, may she found what she desired.
P.S: If I can tell Queen Pomu, it will be this: Do or do not. There is no try.
2:16 That was a hint. She knew it was over. She had already graduated at this point, and was just going through the motions.
Hearing this makes me think... what kind of battle are they fighting behind the scene... and I remember Selen, and it all makes sense.
Just in the number of 5 days this video is now your number 1 most popular video beating out that ironmouse video from 2 years ago
Did they hire a professional grave digger for their pr manager? Because God damn they just keep digging.
it makes me wonder what the other members have said in there members streams. I ask due to the fact that this has fueled more fire than anything else
I hope we'll see her back in some other form soon but I'm sure she'll be fine whatever it is she ends up doing.
Damn I hope wherever she goes or does next she gets to do the opportunities she didn't have at Niji. I wonder if it was the Niji Concert that was cancelled last minute that EN all prepared for or the MGS collab ?
This makes me wonder how many vtubers actually vent and cry about their personal problems on their membership streams. It might be pretty common...
Well usually what is mentioned in membership streams stays there . Unless it's made public by the Stream/ vtuber. (Which Is very rare)
Pomu is already a great person so whatever she does she will be great at it and will shine like she did in Niji
Really felt like Niji missed the boat with Pomu. She had all the tools to give anyone in HoloEN a run for their money - funny, talent, a joy to be around. However, it just seems like Niji just wants to handcuff their talents. Honestly, I hope she is the friend Matara mentioned wanting to bring over. She deserves better.
I'm really sorry for her fans. Honestly, they deserve better than to watch their Oshi, broken hearted, as she rides off in to the sunset, knowing that's it. I'm sorry, y'all. I hope you find her again somewhere down the road.
bro this hurt me so much, She deserve a better company, I hope she can find a place that treats her the way she deserves.
I can't help thinking how crazy hot she would get (she's already so amazing) if she were in an agency like hololive that invest a lot in their talents and provide alot of support. Maybe not exactly, but Pomu's situation reminds me of Suisei when she was in Inonaka before getting transferred over to Hololive. Nijisanji gives me the impression of quantity over quality. Maybe their business model is less working on their talents, and more about finding that golden egg. Hire alot, retire alot. Rinse and repeat.
I wish I watched Pomu more, she was always fun. I hope for the best for her with whatever she moves on to.
All my homies hate Niji
I hope she can be happier now, without much weighing down her shoulders.
I still remember seeing this live. It sucks that Pomu had this situation happen. Hopefully she won't have a situation like this again. She deserves all the happiness in the world💚
I remember being there during this stream live. It's all starting to make sense.