same thing happened to me. kind of. this popped up and before i could see and comprehend what was happening i got the flawless math achivement, i knew about it but i could not see or understand how it worked.
I don't know why this was put in the game. I had to stamp cheese it cuz I'm not tryna do math on the fly while trying to stay alive. I tried the pause method and ofc the devs were like "yea no can't do that" I'm honestly surprised they allowed it to not change from anvils and stamps if they went that far to prevent you from cheesing for no reason whatsoever.
it's an Ollie reference just like Smollie (the character that appears during the math sequence). The anvil thing is likely an oversight thst might get patched. As you can see everyone's reaction was to pause the game to think, but that takes away the challenge. Dev w a s just two steps ahead. 😂
So just the other day I did a skills assessment to become an Air Traffic Controller and the hardest section of the test was having to look at a radar and avoid crashes but also math problems would pop up at the bottom for 2 seconds.
Lui got the answers wrong while being confused, but she's using Noel, so the penalty damage is next to nothing to her. Lol. Muscles over brain indeed. Sasuga Knight Cup!
True. But unlike here, the ffxiv force you to pay attention to your HP, the problem given by the boss, and the platform being an addition not the actual answer
One fun part that none of them noticed, if you manually pause the game to try to give yourself time to solve, then the equation and answers will all change. It's hilarious
There are always four kinds of reactions to this moment: 1. Don't know what's going on, freaking out. 2. DO know what's going on, freaking out. 3. Locking in. 4. Sora.
@@ggasyraf did she really ask that or is it more like "fuck/shit/crap. how many, guys?" I remember people saying is a really common insult that is literally translated as "bitch" or smt, but is used in pretty much anything.
I remember getting into this stage for the first time and getting confused when a math equation popped up because i was out of the boundaries like sora so I didn't know how to answer lol. I just kept running around and wondering how I got one question correct. it makes it even harder if you have a mob of enemies chasing and you're low on health.
As a XIV player, Bijou’s reaction is understandable considering how bad Construct 7 messed up the playerbase and would cause some Ridorana Lighthouse runs to run long because people can’t do on-the-spot math or know what a prime number is.
The math itself isn’t the issue for me. It’s trying to read the equation while dodging enemies and one-hit-kill lightning bolts. Or worse like in Sora’s case being so far away that you can’t get to the answers.
I blew the math quiz on my first run in this stage, but then I was distracted and playing Gura so at least it was thematically appropriate. I don't even know if getting the question wrong actually affects you or if it's just there to troll you. It didn't seem to do much whenever I blew a question.
I was on the other side of the map and all I could think of was "wtf is this floor, why is it colored" after missing 2 questions I then understood what was happening
Man, since I always play this game trying to stay in one small area (or not move at all, if at all possible), I didn't even think about how most players run around kiting mobs and thus would tend to run away from the boss and not even see the answers and be super confused by this mechanic. That's a whole new level of evil I hadn't considered. xD
I laughed my self stupid when Ivalice raids were current. Roulette was me getting the vast majority of commendations for that Raid in particular as healer. But man, Couerl, Diablos, Balmung servers were full of insane people [Goblin before they volen-told us we were preffered & not low pop.] They said that math was going to be the no.1 useless skill outside taxes / mortgage; they lied 😂
i always prepare my MP and swiftcast for that mechanic we usually have at least someone dying lol god forbids i'm not playing as healer and both our healers can't do math
I get it shouldn’t be frustrating beyond the math but the lack of damage done means it really doesn’t matter failing either. Maybe patched but idk adding a debuff or doing 2/3+ health damage seems better
The goal isn’t that failing the math kills you, just that it distracts you or encourages you to make some suboptimal movement choices. The real lethality is the mobs that show up
This is particularly difficult if you max enemies spawn in the shop setting and Halu lv5 you pretty much have no time to think. Also the math problem changing if you pause is a great touch.
Reminds me of Ninja Warrior day. There was this dude who won the Ninja Warrior once, he had a semi-long hair with brown color, and was one of the best player ever. He then participated in another type of Ninja Warrior game (I forgot what the name was) and that new game had a math problem as a challenge just like Boss Ollie. That dude was doing super fast at the beginning, just like usual, but then lost a lot of time because he wasn't ready for the math problem lol
1:25 It's not that there's no time, but that there's no attention to spare? Something like that. She's so preoccupied with dodging she can't afford to do arithmetic at the same time.
This! I'm good at math but i'm so tunnel visioned that even when i know it's coming my eyes can't lock onto the equations xD So it cuts the time i have to react to them by a lot and i usually have to half guess while dodging xD
@@frankensenseronulato You really need your hand held? It's fairly obvious how to answer the question. As for teleporting... maybe. I have had issues with not moving fast enough. It doesn't help when you're also fighting mobs. But it's usually not the initial spawn. Just getting to the correct answer within the time limit. When I see a giant red circle I know a boss is coming and can stay just outside of it to be close when it spawns in. Also bosses are timed events so you can use the timer too. For normal mobs in this stage I usually lead them in a circle and keep then in one area, so usually bosses will spawn near me. Sora only had issues because she ran away from the red circle.
@@Bloodstar-o7 The issue is that the text with the math can be lost with all the other clutter in the screen. I was concentrated on killing the boss to understand why there were four squares of different colors or what the numbers around it meant. Nah, the issue is that it clashes with the bullet heaven design or the bullet hell design. Both bullet heaven and hell focus on massive amounts of clutter on screen and moving around to avoid hits. Answering math questions is out of the blue and nothing like you find in a something like Vampire Survivors or Any bullet heaven. It feels more like something out of Final fantasy 14 the MMO boss fight. And even on those there is more than one safe area in the arena.
I mean if you're like okayu and don't pause, you're really smart, i know that with the stress of monster and situation over you, i wouldn't succeed to think straight. Okayu impressed me a lot
"Who put FFXIV beeping math?" So fun fact, Kay Yu very much enjoys FFXIV. Might've been obvious from the XIV inspired danger zone warnings but he also used to do the video ending scenes for a content creator named Drak (credited as his character's name, Top Nep).
they don't have to go to the numbers near the boss actually just the colors XDD funny mechanics ... want to see all of them jolomem doing this ahahaha .... trivia and other questions should be added
Man it's just me thinking that kay should make that stage like if they got the answer wrong 3 times they either insta ded or the coins u get in stage reset to 0 but also make the enemy approaching u less cuz its kinda hard to calculate and see the answer of ur dodging at the same time xD
My only problem with this thing is that for some reason I can't quickly see the freaking problem on the screen and I have to look for it for several seconds each time lmao
Sasuga Sora just coincidentally getting everything right while running around the stage.
same thing happened to me. kind of. this popped up and before i could see and comprehend what was happening i got the flawless math achivement, i knew about it but i could not see or understand how it worked.
I think she ran out of the answer area, like a non-participent
Being a god requests being always right.
She got the last one wrong tho
Do NOT slander my oshi like that smh my head....
My favorite part about this boss is that if you try to cheat by pause-scumming, the problem changes when you un-pause.
And you get health knocked off
Just be like soda-chan. Run to the edge of map
I don't know why this was put in the game. I had to stamp cheese it cuz I'm not tryna do math on the fly while trying to stay alive. I tried the pause method and ofc the devs were like "yea no can't do that" I'm honestly surprised they allowed it to not change from anvils and stamps if they went that far to prevent you from cheesing for no reason whatsoever.
@@BlackStar300humor
it's an Ollie reference just like Smollie (the character that appears during the math sequence).
The anvil thing is likely an oversight thst might get patched. As you can see everyone's reaction was to pause the game to think, but that takes away the challenge. Dev w a s just two steps ahead.
😂
Honestly, making people do conscious calculations while multitasking is really challenging.
It's a hard stage for a reason.
So just the other day I did a skills assessment to become an Air Traffic Controller and the hardest section of the test was having to look at a radar and avoid crashes but also math problems would pop up at the bottom for 2 seconds.
Yep it's like Maven fight in Path of Exile...
Ah yes, the most terrifying boss yet...
*math*
just like real life fr fr no cap
Well yes, but no... wait it is 😂.
"Oh jeez, they never taught us this in school!"
The hardest boss of FFXIV, *and* Holocure
Well there is that clip from that horror game where the holo talent scream in fear when they see the math quiz they had to do.
This boss be like " you will learn PEMDAS OR DIE!!!" 😂
Watame's "Suddenly was forced to use my brain" got me hard 😂😂
You can just see the steam coming outta that noggin of hers 😂
🤨
🤨
🗿
probably should add a "laughing" right next to hard.
Lui got the answers wrong while being confused, but she's using Noel, so the penalty damage is next to nothing to her. Lol.
Muscles over brain indeed. Sasuga Knight Cup!
Nerissa got all the questions wrong too but she was using Marine so she just immediately healed the damage immediately anyway.
@@RaithSienar Lust over brain! LMAO!
Mega big points to Bijou calling out FF14's math boss (Construct 7) for reminding us that math while multitasking is both stressful and funny AF. lmao
This is harder than the ff14 one though imo, lol.
True. But unlike here, the ffxiv force you to pay attention to your HP, the problem given by the boss, and the platform being an addition not the actual answer
Is 1 a prime number?
@@zzlai6235 My face on the floor says no
@@zzlai6235Oh god... the flashbacks
look how powerful my soda chan is, going outside the boundaries of math
Okayu nails the math with minimal issues and Sora just outruns it completely. Geniuses in different ways.
One fun part that none of them noticed, if you manually pause the game to try to give yourself time to solve, then the equation and answers will all change. It's hilarious
That's evil. I love it.
HOLY SHT HAVE MERCY ON ME! I AM ONLY A HUMBLE MIO ONLY PLAYER. MY MATH SUCKS!
@honsuaman8743Deadass it might be the last achievement I get for this update. I ain't losing my sanity over a virtual Jump King ripoff.
thankfully a lucky level up can give you some time
The question changing on pause was a great touch haha
Dev silently going “Nuh uh”
Reminder: If you cant do math, just be tanky asf LMFAO XD
That's a good life motto.
"If your gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough!"
watame: "i will die because miss calculation"
Developer: "yes... you will, everyone will"
Sora just airheaded the whole thing. lmao
Game: 6 + 5 × 4 = ???
Sora: *(MumeiBGM.mp4)*
Mumei bgm lol
Nene bgm also works😂@@LittleBigPlanetian
Holocure dev - everyone needs to learn a lot more math
glrl - damn you
I guess you could say that opinions on this stage are...divided? But the hilarity sure does...multiply.
INAFF
It really Adds more challenge to the game without Subtracting the core gameplay.
Lol at Biboo's FFXIV math mechanic reference. I see that one raid has traumatized us all
Biboo's "I HATE YOU!" was the perfect Anakin imitation~
There are always four kinds of reactions to this moment:
1. Don't know what's going on, freaking out.
2. DO know what's going on, freaking out.
3. Locking in.
4. Sora.
So this is what the teachers meant when they said math is going to be useful in real life…
I just realized that if you get wrong you'll get peed charged rifle style
"suddenly I was forced to use my brain"... Watame, giving a voice to everyone's thoughts!
IKR? Don't you just hate it when that happens?
Big brain polka. It always funny when everytime reine see math and then just spam every curse words
Sasuga reine
Chat can backseat, but please don't expect chat to do fast maths😂
@@elemenopi4827also youtube delays probably counted by dev to prevent those sackbeaters
Reine: Anjing Berapa Guys?
Me: I don't even know that you have dogs, Reine. 😅
@@chargemankent
anjing berapa guys? = how many dogs, guys?
(ID)anjing = (EN)dog
ah i get it🤣
@@ggasyraf did she really ask that or is it more like "fuck/shit/crap. how many, guys?"
I remember people saying is a really common insult that is literally translated as "bitch" or smt, but is used in pretty much anything.
I bet the achievement for beating this is "according to my calculation"
Order of Operations, actually.
@@ScyBlade well you can say "this is out of my calculation"
I'll stop
5:08 should be Kay Yu instead of Okayu. Kay Yu is the developer.
Ah i see, thanks for your correction. I appreciate it
just came to comment this lmao
Oh, I thought Ollie had heard Okayu talk about encountering it.
I think if she was talking about okayu she would have mentioned okayu senpai
@@HololiveGameplaywhy didn't you correct it? At least a pinned comment with the correction would help don't you think?
I remember getting into this stage for the first time and getting confused when a math equation popped up because i was out of the boundaries like sora so I didn't know how to answer lol. I just kept running around and wondering how I got one question correct. it makes it even harder if you have a mob of enemies chasing and you're low on health.
Nerissa going "awhmygod 💅" is my fav
As a XIV player, Bijou’s reaction is understandable considering how bad Construct 7 messed up the playerbase and would cause some Ridorana Lighthouse runs to run long because people can’t do on-the-spot math or know what a prime number is.
ホロキュアは漢字に苦しむホロメンに楽しい算数を用意しました。
これやってみれば分かるけど、敵の猛攻をかいくぐりながらだからメチャクチャ難しいんよね。しかもこの子たちは喋ってリアクションしながらやってる訳で、どれだけマルチタスクなんだよと。
それな
Kay Yu knew this would make funny clips lmao
Sasuga okayu
Proud of my math cat
biboo having ridorana lighthouse flashbacks
The math itself isn’t the issue for me. It’s trying to read the equation while dodging enemies and one-hit-kill lightning bolts. Or worse like in Sora’s case being so far away that you can’t get to the answers.
Fun fact: If you pause the game, The question also refresh, So you can't cheating...
I blew the math quiz on my first run in this stage, but then I was distracted and playing Gura so at least it was thematically appropriate.
I don't even know if getting the question wrong actually affects you or if it's just there to troll you. It didn't seem to do much whenever I blew a question.
There's an achievement for getting all of them right
If you get a question wrong, a laser gets shot at you. I’m guessing you just dodged it (either with Gura’s high speed or her dodge chance).
I was on the other side of the map and all I could think of was "wtf is this floor, why is it colored" after missing 2 questions I then understood what was happening
I like how Lui's building a very chonky Danchou that the math penalty didnt even bothered her lmao
Man, since I always play this game trying to stay in one small area (or not move at all, if at all possible), I didn't even think about how most players run around kiting mobs and thus would tend to run away from the boss and not even see the answers and be super confused by this mechanic. That's a whole new level of evil I hadn't considered. xD
2:23 a certain alliance raid boss ptsd 😔
"Is 1 a Prime?!" (player dies)
I laughed my self stupid when Ivalice raids were current. Roulette was me getting the vast majority of commendations for that Raid in particular as healer. But man, Couerl, Diablos, Balmung servers were full of insane people [Goblin before they volen-told us we were preffered & not low pop.] They said that math was going to be the no.1 useless skill outside taxes / mortgage; they lied 😂
i always prepare my MP and swiftcast for that mechanic
we usually have at least someone dying lol
god forbids i'm not playing as healer and both our healers can't do math
0:26 relatable sheep
Ollie Math Boss? Ok that is a new level boss answering all Math Questions
Kay Yu should make it 5 times to appear more suffering 🤣
I wanted to see how Luna would react lol
Nerissa’s WTF is so fitting
I get it shouldn’t be frustrating beyond the math but the lack of damage done means it really doesn’t matter failing either. Maybe patched but idk adding a debuff or doing 2/3+ health damage seems better
The goal isn’t that failing the math kills you, just that it distracts you or encourages you to make some suboptimal movement choices. The real lethality is the mobs that show up
Ah yes, the most formidable enemy to Idols: Math. XD
ffxiv math both
dps: healer adjust!
🤣🤣🤣
Oh god I thought I'd escaped the math bosses by not playing FFXIV...
This is particularly difficult if you max enemies spawn in the shop setting and Halu lv5 you pretty much have no time to think. Also the math problem changing if you pause is a great touch.
2:08 Biboo crying feel like the time I have trauma being forced to do math late at night
Biboo's hatred transformed her into Anakin in the lava. 😂
Ah yes, the ultimate weapon against holomems, MATH and specifically PEMDAS! 😂
More terrifying than Horror game…..Surprises math questions 😅😅😂😂
PEMDAS Biboo, PEMDAS
Tbh, I didn't expect Okayu to get it all correct like that. 😂
Reminds me of Ninja Warrior day. There was this dude who won the Ninja Warrior once, he had a semi-long hair with brown color, and was one of the best player ever.
He then participated in another type of Ninja Warrior game (I forgot what the name was) and that new game had a math problem as a challenge just like Boss Ollie. That dude was doing super fast at the beginning, just like usual, but then lost a lot of time because he wasn't ready for the math problem lol
Atleast it isn't asking for prime numbers
Bibs with that Ivalice Raid line whiplash
It caught me off guard the first time, it isnt so bad now that i know its coming but the shock factor the first time was absolutely there
I managed to held my laugh for 36 seconds, Nerissa going “What the f-” with the mic going off hit me
A boss we that Gura will never be able to defeat.
Tante reine + math = content 😂😂😂😂
game should teleport player to the center of that
Or have the Boss relocate next to them just as it's asking the next question.
1:25 It's not that there's no time, but that there's no attention to spare? Something like that. She's so preoccupied with dodging she can't afford to do arithmetic at the same time.
This! I'm good at math but i'm so tunnel visioned that even when i know it's coming my eyes can't lock onto the equations xD So it cuts the time i have to react to them by a lot and i usually have to half guess while dodging xD
Happened to me.
I did not even notice the math until I got to my second playthrough.
@@ODDnanref Yeah, this is not a well developed boss. The game needs to force the player into the designated area and give a little instruction.
@@frankensenseronulato You really need your hand held? It's fairly obvious how to answer the question. As for teleporting... maybe. I have had issues with not moving fast enough. It doesn't help when you're also fighting mobs. But it's usually not the initial spawn. Just getting to the correct answer within the time limit. When I see a giant red circle I know a boss is coming and can stay just outside of it to be close when it spawns in. Also bosses are timed events so you can use the timer too.
For normal mobs in this stage I usually lead them in a circle and keep then in one area, so usually bosses will spawn near me. Sora only had issues because she ran away from the red circle.
@@Bloodstar-o7
The issue is that the text with the math can be lost with all the other clutter in the screen. I was concentrated on killing the boss to understand why there were four squares of different colors or what the numbers around it meant.
Nah, the issue is that it clashes with the bullet heaven design or the bullet hell design. Both bullet heaven and hell focus on massive amounts of clutter on screen and moving around to avoid hits. Answering math questions is out of the blue and nothing like you find in a something like Vampire Survivors or Any bullet heaven. It feels more like something out of Final fantasy 14 the MMO boss fight. And even on those there is more than one safe area in the arena.
I mean if you're like okayu and don't pause, you're really smart, i know that with the stress of monster and situation over you, i wouldn't succeed to think straight. Okayu impressed me a lot
"Who put FFXIV beeping math?" So fun fact, Kay Yu very much enjoys FFXIV. Might've been obvious from the XIV inspired danger zone warnings but he also used to do the video ending scenes for a content creator named Drak (credited as his character's name, Top Nep).
most of hololive being scared of math makes the math of holocure very fun to watch.
Watame sound so fluffy and soft... 😂
To quote Persona 4: "Math is the enemy of mankind."
0:01 spider dance really does fit the vibe of this boss
the math question changes if you pause/unpause btw
Interestinggggggg loooooool
But game paused due to level up / picking up Stamps will reset math questions too?
@@Fulikia no. only when ya pause yourself.
Sasuga Soda-chan 🤣
Reine just straight up insulting in indonesian when the math comes out lol
Thanks to Sodaime! Now we can evade the sudden math quiz from Ollie 🤝😁🙏
Okayu knows BEDMAS
My arch nemesis of basic math. PEMDAS!!!
Every hololive worst nightmare : Math
they don't have to go to the numbers near the boss actually just the colors XDD funny mechanics ... want to see all of them jolomem doing this ahahaha .... trivia and other questions should be added
The true boss of stage 4 hard mode, MATH
There needs to be more math in fan games
Mathematics are most scary in horror games
This is so great and unique gameplay 😂
Suddenly turned into a horror game
Thank you very much!
Oh no... *Math*
I already had to dealt with it in both NOISZ games and now it's here
Man it's just me thinking that kay should make that stage like if they got the answer wrong 3 times they either insta ded or the coins u get in stage reset to 0 but also make the enemy approaching u less cuz its kinda hard to calculate and see the answer of ur dodging at the same time xD
This is the harder version of the math boss in XIV
My first reaction to this was, yeah I can dodge it. And then I decided let's try solving
My only problem with this thing is that for some reason I can't quickly see the freaking problem on the screen and I have to look for it for several seconds each time lmao
Is there an achievement where
You "Die from Miscalculation"???
Not that I'm aware of. There is an achievement for getting all answers right.
Dev should prepare vector calculus questions next time for a lil bit trolling
Math is actually scary
no one told them you could pause so they don't 😂
I love how some of the mems either forgor or don't know that PEMDAS is a thing. Sasuga Hololive XD
(Tho, props to Ririka for knowing, genius! www)
Putting math in a game Vtubers play... diabolical...
I play this game at 2x speed (by using cheat engine) and this part almost messed me up because you have to answer literally twice as fast
Whoever came up with the idea for a mini-boss math quiz needs a firm lecture.
they need a reward, it really put people on the spot for 3 damage attacks from the boss if they don't
I can see Miko fate from miles away 😅
They should it make it so that you won't be able to level up until the boss fight ends so that it cannot automatically pause. lol