Question for #Debrief: Would you guys ever consider asking ghosts simple math questions (like 2+2) during spiritbox sessions to see if you get an intelligent response?? #BoogarainmyheartbutShaniacinmymind 😂😂😅
#debrief Question: If you could go back and reinvestigate any of the places you visited while on Buzzfeed Unsolved, which place would you go back to and why?
for debrief: at 32:24 Ryan asks to show him where the man was hurting the woman on the estes method and then at 33:10 he got the response "right there" after moving to a new spot in the room. then he asks "right here?" and immediately got "yeah" as a response HOW WERE YOU NOT FREAKING OUT ABOUT THAT? that whole conversation was freakishly coherent in terms of the questions you asked and the responses you got
@@brittanylatimer7243thats what i was thinking, or my other thought was maybe it was the gross evil guy who went with the younger woman, maybe he got the younger woman pregnant and was trying to ask for help. I'm kind of more on the side of believing we'd hypothetically hear ghosts experiencing their last loops over and over rather than us talking right to them but in this case it felt like both were happening.
Sorry but anything using the spirit box/Estes method can't be chalked up to anything more than coincidence. The spirit box has no basis in science and any "evidence" from it is entirely dismissable
@@brittanylatimer7243 legally if you were pregnant, you couldn't be hanged. Women would claim pregnancy whether they were or not when arrested to buy them a couple of extra months or get their sentence commuted to America or Australia and survive. It was often their only line of defence against the noose, even for petty crimes. That's where my mind went
i love imagining the ghosts actually work like in the show Ghosts. they cant really do anything, it takes a TON of effort to do “ghost stuff” and just kinda stand around and watch. clock dude can be seen by humans but only when he stands in front of that specific clock and nowhere else. one of them can make sounds but only if theyre on the opposite side of the building so the sound is always far away
I think he knows Ryan might be a believer but neither of them want the show to turn into overdramatic schlock. I think that’s one of the reasons why so many of us have stuck a long since the beginning:)
One day Shane should do "research" on a place to take ryan to but he just makes up everything so when they get there they can figure out if ryans reactions are actually to ghost or if he's just scaring himself with nothing
However to make it a real test there should be 1 or 2 true lore items about hauntings and then the rest fake to help legitimise whether Ryan is psychologically reacting to the stories or actual potential ghosts
@@moonbreed6670no, the experiment is ongoing and so a control is unnecessary because it already exists, we know how Ryan reacts to true lore, and how would you "scientifically" isolate a place that has enough real haunting lore and is definitely fake.
I’ve been thinking about this since my Ghost Adventure watching days. Yeah why not do at least one episode where the guys go in blind, then afterward they compare notes to the research team. If their stuff lines up with reports, that makes it much more compelling than having a bias as to what should be happening
In my opinion the woman on the estes method was telling ryan a "murphy" hurt her "right there" (especially when ryan said what happened she replied "that's it? What I said?" And when ryan continues to not understand that she's implying the man hurt her there she says "my dear, don't!" frustratedly before telling Ryan she's pregnant, likely Murphy's)
@@jessejackrabbit7021 i know nothing about blood pressure, i am just crudely assuming big people = higher blood pressures, any heart rate below 100 is good i think lol
Hi Watcher team! To answer your question about the "clutched pearl" look of the mugshots at 29:19. That was a common way to capture any birthmarks, tattoos, missing digits, or other identifying marks on the criminals hands.
the growth of Ryan like 6 years ago being afraid if even addressing a ghost existence to inviting it to throw something at them or follow them when they leave is crazy
Honestly, in addition to the death-doctor-pregnant thing, the fact that the estes method conversation had the ghosts fixate on the torch/flashlight and then once it was established to be kind of "a candle" on how much they wanted to have it _in that set of DARK cells people would get shut into_ is pretty compelling to me, and I generally don't believe in direct and coherent communication with ghosts to be possible beyond extremely limited circumstances.
Ngl it made me kinda sad...assuming they were actually dead people and not something else messing with them. Prisons are never cool but this one seems particularly gruesome to have had the misfortune of being thrown into
Depends on the layout. They're in a wooden building in a cold, damp climate. If one room is closer to the outside of the building, it would make sense for the wood there to pop and creak more than it would in a more interior room that would be at least slightly more insulated from the changing temperature as the day fully settles into night. Also, as they've pointed out in the debriefs before, we're seeing an edit of many, many hours of investigation, during most of which nothing happens. The actual events and their proximity to one another may not be as time-compressed as we see it. It's possible that, by the time they switch rooms, swap out batteries, set up their shots, and resume filming, the temperature has stabilized a little and the frequency of pops and creaks in the old wood has gone down.
@@johnplaysgames3120 it's also possible that it's a heating system set to temperature regulate and is only making noises every so often because, as you mentioned, wood be wooding. It seems they got noises for a bit and then it stopped for a bit and then it came back again?
Man this season has some wild places. You know it's a good one when Shane is left sitting in the dark laughing because the building just won't be silent for five seconds. One of those easily dismissed 'old wood building' until 20 minutes later it's dead silent in both areas. Who would have thought the spookier place would be the nice building above the creepy gaol tunnels?
The thing about old buildings is they're so easily affected by temperature changes. The temperature changes a couple degrees inside, which is perfectly possible in 20 minutes? Bangs, knocks, creaks galore. My house was only built in the 70s but it's super creaky, but only when the temperature is changing. It's perfectly possible that the temperature was rising or falling when Shane was doing his solo, meaning it was very creaky where both Ryan and Shane were. 20 minutes later the temperature has equalised, no more knocks. That's far more plausible than 'oh well the ghost just left'.
@@Marzi29 could very well be the heating system of the building causing the knocking also, both of the wooden rooms that I'm assuming are close to each other likely share the same piping which would explain why they both heard similar noises in both rooms at the same time, but not during Ryan's solo investigation from the heating system being on/off. Another comment said the noises could be from a steam/hot water system, which ik is more common in the UK and older buildings and makes a similar clunking noise.
I believe in ghosts for a ton of personal reasons. The thing I find weird is how old places I know have something going on in them have periods of intense silence followed by noises. Others, however, despite being old, cruddy construction, are often dead silent. Despite heat having an effect on noises in a building, the more creaky, the more likely something is going on because natural creaks have repetition and happen in similar spots and make more organic noises.
@@Marzi29 this is a good point! I’m also sort of a skeptic, but for what it’s worth, I think they try to account for this possibility at locations by asking those questions that require a specific number of knocks, or need responses to be timely to be compelling (as with the maglight). that way, they can filter out extraneous noises made by heating, etc. :) at the very least, it’s an interesting approach to scientific method, haha
@matthewwatson6075 I've done investigations in various buildings overnight - castles, museums, jails, aircraft hangers etc etc But none of them ever made that much noise! Normally, a regular noise I'd put down as heating/expansion, but I think it just seems regular because of how it's edited. I also don't know how much heating they'd have in the court room itself. They would have a cold draft coming up from the dungeons, so that may create bigger temp changes. It might be that those noises are typical - I guess the staff there could confirm that.
I love how well prepared Ryan is when y'all go to locations. It is amazing! I also love the notebook that Ryan will pull out. It shows he cares! I also love how Shane brings the comedic relief that we need! Y'all are doing great!
Not many people know this but that little notebook is actually a bible! When Ryan gets scared he takes it out and reads his favorite bits of scripture aloud. We all have to be very quiet when this happens otherwise he gets sooo mad! -Shane
@@LuAnneFoster I've noticed a lot of people from the area (or similar) say that it sounded most definitely like a fox scream, a sound they've heard a lot and are very familiar with, so I'mma go with that over "disembodied spirit screaming through the veil from another plane of existence." Y'know, Occam's Razor and all that. Same as when the boys went to the Conjuring house and there was that weird chittering from somewhere upstairs, and I and all the other commenters who've ever lived in a place with lots of racoons immediately went, "Oh, a racoon got into the house or a crawlspace or something." When it's a sound that you're not familiar with, it's easy to think "g-g-ghost!" but when it's a sound you've heard a lot in your life, it's immediately recognizable as something totally mundane. And, man, animals make weird, unexpected noises sometimes. I still remember VERY vividly when I found a baby rabbit tangled up in vines in my backyard as a kid. I bent down to untangle it and set it free and that was the day I learned that rabbits -- which I'd previously thought were basically silent creatures -- can actually let out the most horrifying, human-like scream. There are many things I've forgotten in my life -- names of people I went to high school with, old phone numbers, my wallet (which I only realize after driving halfway to the store) -- but that moment (and sound) from my childhood is BURNED into my brain forever.
So glad you guys came to the museum! This was such an incredible watch and both I and some of the people who work in the building have been able to make connections with the actual history of the place too. Very spooky, and very exciting!!
Given that at the end when you guys were hearing the knocks that were active while Shane was on his solo, and then nothing was knocking while Ryan was on his from either courtroom tells me that could have just been the building settling/cooling. There's a lot of wood there to expand and contract. As much as I want to believe in the knocks and bumps, I feel like I'm starting to become more on the side of the skeptics. Another lovely episode boys!!
@@blukitsune Reverb changing the tone, animals dulling the sound on impact, different wood to that which was demonstrated on, different forces applied to the same wood making different noises, different shapes/cuts of wood. Theres other stuff, too, like mechanical/electrical equipment that can change a noise profile by asserting a weight on specific regions Then, with all buildings with a profit margin partially related to the haunting, there's the less kind takes of "There is equipment in the walls", whether or not that went off deliberately is another matter. I know the Edinburgh and London Dungeons use such stuff.
The Estes method is always my favorite and this one does not disappoint. I can feel how dank those caves are all the way from Texas. For debrief: did you sync up the footage from Shane’s solo and Ryan’s interview and see if you were hearing the same or different knocks? Really fun episode!
Can confirm as a Nottingham girl they are dank, I’ve had some very strange experiences in them, they stretch across the whole city, we used to have a shopping centre built on top of some and there’s a very very old pub built into them, the castle also has an entrance into them that was also used as a prison and those tunnels lead to the pub
@@izziehw I remember they used to have a little entrance to the caves in the back of the shopping centre, like it wasn't really very well signposted, you just kind of stumbled on it?? And I hope so much they went to Ye Olde Trip To Jerusalem, that pub is 1000 years old.
i was wondering this too! so wild how shane heard 2 knocks and then the next clip was ryan doing that knocking pattern, i immediately thought “ok what’s the time stamp of those??”
Fun fact about the Estes Method, it was invented by paranormal investigators Karl Pfeiffer and Connor J. Randall while they were the resident investigators at the Stanley Hotel. I always try to tell people about them because its rare they get credited
The conversation in the women’s cells is actually some of the craziest, somewhat intelligent seeming conversation in the Estes method they’ve had. Legit weird stuff.
The Estes conversation with "Murphey" is honestly so wild, from the intelligent responses to the "That man", "doctor", and "pregnant" that could imply sexual assault leading to an unwanted pregnancy. Very intriguing.
It's actually really sad. Because the likelihood that a woman was assaulted there is pretty high. And it's sad if this a real tormented person speaking who is experiencing this event. They're real unfortunate people that died there.
@@Dasha-c4s Oh, it's absolutely horrifying and tragic, no person should have to experience something so awful. But that high likelihood and the intelligent responses are intriguing *because* they were real people. If whatever imprint of them lingers in this realm, then conversations like that are incredibly important and compelling.
@@IXSICNESS I don't believe in coincidences, not when they're *that* timely and sensible. But with everything spirituality related, it's up to interpretation. If you look at that conversation and say "coincidence", that's no more correct or incorrect than when I look at that conversation and say "intelligence". This isn't exactly a science, lol (though my own beliefs are rooted in the laws of conservation of energy and matter)
For debrief: During the Estes method, "Murphy" sounded like a surname, as did "Edison" during Ryan's solo. Did you guys ever check the surnames on those photos in the cell? And during Shane's solo, I know he was joking about "temperature square piece" being gibberish that Ryan would make meaning out of - but it genuinely could refer to the equipment in his hand. It's a square piece that interprets environmental inputs (including temperature) into words.
FOR DEBRIEF: i love how when Ryan hears a noise you can see the concern on his face and how his heart rate jumps up but when Shane hears a noise his heart rate is just around normal and he laughs and smiles
For debrief: Im respectfully wondering why with ALL those loud knocks in the courtroom, why didn't you try to search out where they were coming from or what might have been causing them? Or were they literally coming from every direction? They seemed way too loud to be just old wood in my opinion. Love the show and loved this location! Thanks guys!
For debrief: Ryan and Shane why did you stop sleeping at the haunted places? And if you could sleep in any of the places you’ve been to which would it be ? (Love you guys, Day one fan since buzzfeed)
After the mention of doctor, there is a placard on the wall at 35:27 that Rules and Regulations - The Medical Officer. I tried zooming in, but couldn't read more. Wonder if the reference to doctor was a person stating their profession, not someone needing a doctor.
For debrief: First I giggled at Shane saying 'oi' during the Estes method since that's a very common phrase here in the UK so it was interesting to picture a British ghost shouting oi as you walk around. My question is, do you ever consider using phrases/terms maybe more familiar with the ghosts from each era you investigate ie British ghosts from the 18th century will only understand certain phrases and terms. I thought this since the ghosts referred to Ryans torch as a candle. Do you think this would make them more inclined to communicate/understand what you're actually talking about lmao? Great episode as always love you guys
Exactly what I think!! I often wonder how many spirits avoided contact because they couldn't understand or the guys' general high energy is a bit much lol
Shane /did/ attempt...the worst British accent ever. However, it /would/ be hilarious if they learned to speak legit old English, 'cause that was some goofy sounding stuff.
I'm sorry, but the so called "breathing" at 13:55 is nothing but a scream of utmost dispair. How in the hell did the entire watcher team call that breathing? Even in the edit.
It's actually the legend of Robin Hood. Dating back hundreds of years in the Middle ages, there were many men who went by the alias of Robin Hood that were criminals. So it isn't one particular man, but basically a group of men 3:27
Sir Tony Robinson did a good documentary piece on the figure of Robin Hood, in the style of the archeology tv-program Time Team (which he used to host). Can highly recommand watching it :)
For anyone wondering; "The phrase "shave and a haircut, two bits" originated from the 1899 song "At a Darktown Cakewalk" by Charles Hale. The song's tune became a musical meme and is now one of the most recognizable rhythms in North America."
I love how when they go to places in the US they're like, "oh this building is so old, it's from the 1700s!!" and then they go to England and it's like "this building has caves from 600 AD"
I do think that it’s really strange that when Shane was in the courtroom there was so much noise but when Ryan was in there it was DEAD silent. And the same for when Shane was in the other room where Ryan was hearing the noises. It seems odd for the creaks, thumps, and knocks to be just the building settling if it’s that inconsistent.
whilst in nottingham you should’ve visited ‘ye olde salutation inn’, the oldest pub in nottingham (1240) which has layers of cave systems beneath it, built in the 9th century, which are said to be extremely haunted and have a lot of history behind them
@@thorpy_8as someone from notts who knows the ppl who own sals, jerusalem is not the oldest, they don’t have any paperwork or proof dating back to when they claim to have been built
I'm so jealous. I'd love to visit here. A dream of mine has always been to visit the UK. Being ¼ English; ¼ Scottish & being a life long resident of eastern Massachusetts how could I not be.
@@munkustrap2being American myself living in the UK... the history bits are fun, the rest of it is as bland as British food. lovely country but also equally as boring as much of the US. still definitely happier here
For the first time I can actually say I've been to one of these places! The National Justice Museum is awesome. Shame Shane didn't get to see it during the day - they do fun re-enactments of historical trials and when I went they had a really good section on prisoner (mal)treatment and issues with justice systems both historically and in present day Learnt a lot when I went!
For debrief: the double-slit experiment has shown that mere observation affects reality and the results of an experiment. Do you think that if ghosts are real, recording them would make them less likely to show themselves? Also thank you for acknowledging your “Sonic the hedgehog but with human teeth” choice a few months back and changing paths.
The most probable explanation for all the knocking in the wood rooms is heat and humidity. Warmer air can contain more water vapor than cold air, and wood absorbs this moisture. A change of only a few percent in average humidity can cause wood to swell, causing loud pops and creaks. All the walking and talking Ryan and Shane did during their group hunt likely brought up the ambient temperature and humidity in the building, and the wood was simply adjusting to the change in air conditions. Assuming there is decent air flow between rooms, this would explain why both rooms were reacting around the same time.
For the debrief: you might have already answered this but uh… who does those super cool black and white chalk-like illustrations we see in every episode? I wanna give them some love
Shane was correct with the fact it was due to the entire room being made of wood, and especially at the time you were there. Wood contracts and expands with temperature changes, creating creaks, "knocks" and the sorts. Since the air is cooling down, the wood is contracting.
For the debrief: I'm a skeptic, but I like how the ovilus said "Edison" during Ryan's solo in the basement. I thought of Thomas Edison, which I thought was a little funny, as Ryan was down there with the maglite as the main equipment being used to communicate with the ghosties.
I really like places like this, even as a shaniac I like the idea that malevolent ghosts like prisoner ghosts ignore actual attempts at communication and are just trying to torment you as you go around the museum. it would explain why there weren't many well timed responses or noises, makes it funnier the thought of them desperately trying to textbook haunt you but getting ignored because it isn't conclusive enough.
these episodes are too good! i've been watching ryan and shane since BuzzFeed unsolved a few years ago and followed them here when they decided to leave. i feel like they deserve their own netflix series for sure.
the amount of times i find random scratches or a bruise on my body is astounding, and i know it's just because i'm clumsy or don't really realize when i casually injure myself. i could never trust 'finding a scratch' as being supernatural lol
Love this episode, welcome to the UK. I have a feeling the bumps are from the central heating. My house does it too when the central heating kicks in then the heat from the pipes makes the walls pop and the stairs click. Such a pity I'm all for finding proof but I don't think this is it.
As someone who used to work in this building. Can confirm. The pipes for the heating of the courtroom are directly underneath the table in the middle of the room. They're huge old pipes and everything in that room just creaks.
I did a ghost investigation here! Here's some of the strange things that happened: In the women's cells, we had exclusively women's voices come through the spirit box. One asked for help and the other gave a name. I wish we'd thought to check the photos of prisoners for the name like Ryan did. In the cave, our REM pod went off, but only whenever we asked questions, a range of yes or no answes indicated by either one or two beeps. In the court room, we got loud bangs just like they did. To us, they sounded like they were coming from the room above the court, I think it was an office. The investigators in charge went to debunk this, but the office was locked, no one could be in there. At one point I was challenged to sit in a locked cell for ten minutes. Nothing happened there, just me sat in the dark, but still fun. Thanks for visiting my home town, I hope it inspires others to visit.
Question for Debrief: Any plans to do any house haunts again? Or at least have another psychic on? Hannah Williams haunting was a gem from the company-that-shall-not-be-named times. Would also settle for more teaming up with Garrett Watts!
We definitely intend to do more house calls! Not sure if we've got any lined up for next season but they're always being considered so one may end up in the mix. They offer a unique vibe that you don't always get at your classic haunted establishment. -Shane
with a little digging, this museum has a railway on two sides of it. It takes 100 decibels to shatter glass and train horns at their maximum volume is 110 decibels. Not saying this is the answer to what happened but my first thought about the shattered glass was "are there train tracks nearby?" and this building is almost surrounded by tracks.
Being inside the building would likely have protected it from noise damage (especially as all the windows etc are perfectly fine), but I did think it was most probable that the glass was already damaged or flawed in some way, a train going past, a strong cool draft, just cycles of warming and cooling, lots of things might have pushed it too far and caused a fracture.
Hi, from Nottingham! There are no railway tracks anywhere near the building. They are much further away, at least a 15 minute walk through town. There's a tram up the road but it's very far and can't be heard from anywhere in or just outside the building.
Question for debrief : You guys have gone to tons of different locations open to tourists or on home haunts but have you ever considered going to abandoned/not so touristy locations ? For example, in France there's a lot of abandoned tuberculosis sanatoriums. Amazing episode as always, boogara all the way cause those knocks would've freaked me out
For debrief: The Ovilus often spits out random words that don’t seem to make any sense. Could this be because it’s picking up on particularly chatty ghost conversations, or is it simply not a very reliable ghost-hunting tool, requiring you to only take it seriously when the words happen to fit the context? Also just wondering, why not keep the SLS switched on throughout your investigations, especially when the ghosts respond with things like the mag light or when they tug on your shirt? Been watching y'all since Ryan first started-absolutely love the show! You should make it year-round so I'd always have something to look forward to.
I remember the second time they used the ovilus on unsolved was at their producers house and they had it set a different way where it was like the spirit box and “spoke” and didn’t just say random words and that was far more compelling in that ep. Maybe that’s just once in a blue moon though
The ovilus is nothing short of a scam tool. It's relying on no verifiable science or engineering. In order for the Ovlius to "work" it has to rely on a couple of assumptions. Assumption A: ghosts are real (kind of putting the cart before the horse with this one). Assumptions B: ghosts can control electromagnetic fields (this is based on nothing except speculation about the supposed properties of something that hasn't been proven to exist). Assumptions C: those EMFs can be manipulated to represent words/phrases/sounds (as far as I'm aware, you cannot prove this unless you actively manipulate emfs around the device, and it can consistently spit out the same words with the same manipulations). It's nothing more than a pseudoscientific waste of money and materials
The unfortunate truth is that, as far as ghost hunting is concerned, because we don't know what the cause of the phenomenon is, we don't know which tools will actually record anything of worth, evidence wise. It's just guess work. Like using leeches to treat a sickness because you don't know what makes people sick.
I tend to wonder about that method tbh. If, as they state, temperature and electric field are prompting, I'd think that a ghost needs a bit of time to figure out how to use the device. Like, what do I need to do to make it say something.
My family and I went to the Galleries of Justice when I was younger. My Dad felt a hand on his shoulder and turned around, expecting to see one of us, but he was the only one in the room. It still creeps him out thinking about it
Ah ty for sharing your dad's story! You're the first person I've seen here refer to it as the galleries of justice, which is how I know it, has it changed its name + no longer uses that? Or does it use both names do you know?
@@samc2000I think you can use either name. I hadn’t heard of the name National Justice before this video, but if you search it up, it does come up for both said name and Galleries of Justice
The place got National Lottery funding a few years back and renamed to the National Justice Museum. It no longer uses Galleries of Justice but folks who knew it as that (me included) still fondly call it that.
For Debrief: During Shanes solo investigation of the women's cell, I thought I heard a distant knock or thud at around 56:05 - 56:07 that sounded similar to the ones you guys kept getting in the courtrooms. Not entirely sure if it was just the sounds of Shane's shuffling or some other bump of the night. I really appreciate how you guys always check what it might actually be before just assuming its something supernatural, keep up the great work!
I love Shane checking his watch during the estes method like "dang this one is going for a really long time, when's Ryan coming back???" lol. Cause from his perspective theres no back and forth conversation it's just yelling random sounds
I work in the heritage sector in the UK and those knocks were certainly interesting. Definitely could be the fact the rooms Shane and Ryan are in are mainly wooden and depending on the humidity (which gets very high in the UK) the wood could just be expanding or detracting which is causing creaking and knocking noises. I would guess the museum has humidity meters for conservation so for the debrief it would be really interesting to get that data to see if there was a change at the time of the knocks kicking off and see if it explains it? Also maybe invest in some conservation tools for future investigations. Temperature and humidity meters in particular left in the location could give you a graph of that data which could explain seemingly paranormal events. Though saying that a colleague of mine one had a room drop to -40 at 3am exactly in a room supposedly meant to be haunted so maybe it would give the boogaras some evidence too? I’d also trust them WAAAAYYYY more than the dodgy ghost hunting tools made by bias people.
It's so amazing to see you in Nottingham, I've hoped you'd come to the National Justice Museum ever since you went to Colchester Castle. Thanks Ghoul Boys!
Glad I stumbled over you guys‘ channel (via Rusty Quill, btw). I love how you combine a ‘genuine’ paranormal investigation with hilarious banter. Plus, I thought the various ghost-hunting devices were really well explained. Keep up the good work! 😊
It is one of the best locations in the UK for capturing anything paranormal. When I went in around 2021, even the walk around where the staff were showing me which rooms I could film in, there were noises coming from the cells. The cave underneath the building is the hotspot though.
I wonder how many prisoners met their grim demise in the bowels of that building. So much corruption and greed, suffering of so many people both innocent bystanders and criminals. Thats what goes through my head when i go to places like that
6:00 I think it should be noted that there is a very real phenomenon where sometimes glass will literally just. Shatter for no reason. Also if you see this, I love your outfit and earrings so much!!!
Yeah, I’ve worked in pubs/bars for 10 years and it’s so common for glasses to smash unpredictably on their own 😭 sometimes it’s micro cracks that you can’t see, and the slight temp change, or mishandling (she said she had wiped) can trigger a shatter
I once had lunch with a new co-worker and midway through the meal, my glass shattered into a million little pieces in my hand, leaving me just holding the handle. It was weird, but neither of us jumped to "g-g-ghost!" It was most likely just a temperature thing and, as @tashafry3779 said, micro cracks or something. Sometimes weird things happen but, just because we can't explain it immediately (bc, y'know, I wasn't going to do a forensic analysis of the shattered glass or anything), it doesn't mean it's supernatural.
Grew up here! my sister used to work at the museum yearssss ago and I used to attend a youth theatre just down the road from it - was well known for being very haunted. I did a tour once with my school and I was convinced something touched me and like three people in the tour had to leave because they felt so faint. I don’t know if it was just bc they were telling ghost stories and it got in my head but that whole place has an eerie vibe.
1:06:57 did no one else find it funny that Ryan asked the ghosties to use a touch lamp then the word that comes through the ovilus is the name of the guy credited with inventing the lightbulb lol
For debrief: Shane, let’s say you were provided undeniable proof that ghosts were real tomorrow. Face to face encounter, scientific studies, etc.. Which evidence from previous episodes would you take as bible and what would you write off as coincidences?
Horrifying place … human beings are truly the scariest creatures on this planet … so much darkness… thanks for crossing the pond and sharing this crazy place!
You guys should come down to little rural Devon! We have tonnes of haunted castles and folk lore like the hairy hand of Dartmoor. Also, question for debrief: how do you think a ghost responds to the ovulus? Like, if its detecting electromagnetic radiowaves, do you think the ghosts just think really hard, or maybe its an interpretive dance?
Agreed! A lot of the pubs down here are also haunted...Wistman's Wood is super eery, especially when it's wreathed in mist. I'd definitely recommend wild-camping on the Moor, might make for an interesting investigation!
@@OpaquePillowI can picture a ghost doing this long elaborate dance involving cartwheels, backflips and every other kind of thing just to get the word wrong
This is the first time that I am early for a video. Ryan, you have gotten much more brave for the solo walk throughs. I am proud to see the progress. Shane, you have remained a steadfast non believer. It is incredible to see your unwavering ability to stick to your guns, yet you go along for the ride.
For Debrief: I got very emotional during the Estes method when Ryan was talking to Murphy. When you’re getting a lot of responses like that when and why do you decide to stop? You both are amazing!
ok but the estes method bits (with one person yelling what they hear and the other one frolicking about) are HILARIOUS please do more of them in a visit (yes im a skeptic but also the 'conversation' that ryan had in the women's cell had me reeling, thank you)
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Question for #Debrief: Would you guys ever consider asking ghosts simple math questions (like 2+2) during spiritbox sessions to see if you get an intelligent response?? #BoogarainmyheartbutShaniacinmymind 😂😂😅
#debrief Question: If you could go back and reinvestigate any of the places you visited while on Buzzfeed Unsolved, which place would you go back to and why?
Can you come to my house to investigate? We will feed you dinner 👍🏼
question for #debrief: when do we get to see Ryan doing his solo investigation with weed (as prophecised on too many spirits)?
Come to Romania, especially Bran Castle or Hoia Baciu Forest! In my 200 years of living here, i've never seen anything spookier :)
12:00 “i feel so powerful up here. no wonder the judicial system is fucked up” hit me like a brick 😭😭
It’s crazy because you can say stuff like this in any form of social media with how blatantly true it is and it wouldn’t matter. Nothing changes. lol
😂😂😂
stanford prison experiment
I’m I’m ooooooopp
You know what would be wild? If the museum people watch the video and said: "We don't have any mannequins."
HAHAHAHA. THANKS I NEEDED THAT
Also if they said that they did not put any fake shit there
OH JESUS THIS IS TERRIFYING TO THINK ABOUT 😭🤣
@@Kazutoification omg for real!!!
that would be amazing, like what more evidence would Shane like after that
Ryan asking continuously for the light to turn on and then the ghost saying 'Edison' is actually really funny
Would be funny if he said Tesla
for debrief: at 32:24 Ryan asks to show him where the man was hurting the woman on the estes method and then at 33:10 he got the response "right there" after moving to a new spot in the room. then he asks "right here?" and immediately got "yeah" as a response HOW WERE YOU NOT FREAKING OUT ABOUT THAT? that whole conversation was freakishly coherent in terms of the questions you asked and the responses you got
And when he asked what happened and she said “pregnant” and “doctor” maybe she got pregnant and died from a botched abortion….
Murphy was the one who did it
@@brittanylatimer7243thats what i was thinking, or my other thought was maybe it was the gross evil guy who went with the younger woman, maybe he got the younger woman pregnant and was trying to ask for help. I'm kind of more on the side of believing we'd hypothetically hear ghosts experiencing their last loops over and over rather than us talking right to them but in this case it felt like both were happening.
Sorry but anything using the spirit box/Estes method can't be chalked up to anything more than coincidence. The spirit box has no basis in science and any "evidence" from it is entirely dismissable
@@brittanylatimer7243 legally if you were pregnant, you couldn't be hanged. Women would claim pregnancy whether they were or not when arrested to buy them a couple of extra months or get their sentence commuted to America or Australia and survive. It was often their only line of defence against the noose, even for petty crimes. That's where my mind went
i love imagining the ghosts actually work like in the show Ghosts. they cant really do anything, it takes a TON of effort to do “ghost stuff” and just kinda stand around and watch. clock dude can be seen by humans but only when he stands in front of that specific clock and nowhere else. one of them can make sounds but only if theyre on the opposite side of the building so the sound is always far away
They should be on the show ghosts as themselves!
I really like how Shane takes the scratch seriously. Even if he doesn't believe in ghosts, he believes Ryan and that is a good friens
he's said he likes to play into it to keep Ryan scared...a little bit of both
@@sigasaurusrextrue but being a good friend is knowing when to do which
He also has a certain respect for an investigative process, despite his snark and whimsy and ghost scoffery.
when was the talk about the scratch I missed it.
I think he knows Ryan might be a believer but neither of them want the show to turn into overdramatic schlock. I think that’s one of the reasons why so many of us have stuck a long since the beginning:)
One day Shane should do "research" on a place to take ryan to but he just makes up everything so when they get there they can figure out if ryans reactions are actually to ghost or if he's just scaring himself with nothing
However to make it a real test there should be 1 or 2 true lore items about hauntings and then the rest fake to help legitimise whether Ryan is psychologically reacting to the stories or actual potential ghosts
@@moonbreed6670no, the experiment is ongoing and so a control is unnecessary because it already exists, we know how Ryan reacts to true lore, and how would you "scientifically" isolate a place that has enough real haunting lore and is definitely fake.
I would love to see how Shane would present an episode of ghost files, made up or not
I’ve been thinking about this since my Ghost Adventure watching days. Yeah why not do at least one episode where the guys go in blind, then afterward they compare notes to the research team. If their stuff lines up with reports, that makes it much more compelling than having a bias as to what should be happening
Ghosts could literally be anywhere tho
The slow fade from Shane’s staring face to the weird mannequin during his solo was poetic
Shane’s eyes look like they’re pointing in opposite directions and for some reason I got Sid the sloth vibes 😂
@@GhostDeer-o9y lmao 😭
I made a meme using Shane with that face, saving the screenshot to make more
In my opinion the woman on the estes method was telling ryan a "murphy" hurt her "right there" (especially when ryan said what happened she replied "that's it? What I said?" And when ryan continues to not understand that she's implying the man hurt her there she says "my dear, don't!" frustratedly before telling Ryan she's pregnant, likely Murphy's)
This part had me raging. Like did you just forget that you asked her wtf happened?? I was looking for this comment
yeah that's what i was thinking
I felt like I was listening to a woman relive her SA 😢
As someone who grew up around foxes all my life that "breathing" at 13:55 was unmistakably a fox cry
think you mean scream foxes always be screaming XD
In the middle of a city thou?
@rangerman9241 absolutely, lots of foxes live in cities here. I live in Nottingham and I see them on the regular
@@cascharles3838 yea but those walls are thiccckkkk
@@Deanothefordtech Ive never seen them in nottingham but i believe they could be there. I saw one in the middle of london once
For debrief: THIS IS LITERALLY THE FIRST EPISODE WHERE SHANE'S HEART MONITOR NOTICED HIS HEART RATE!!!! I LOVE IT!
and his heart rate is wildly low for how tall he is its shocking really
i mean good for him
@@heatweveI’m pretty sure taller people have lower than average blood pressure, maybe that’s why?
@@jessejackrabbit7021 i know nothing about blood pressure, i am just crudely assuming big people = higher blood pressures, any heart rate below 100 is good i think lol
@ nope. I double checked. Weird tbh I’d agree with ur assessment. You’d think they’re like giraffes and need higher blood pressure
Hi Watcher team! To answer your question about the "clutched pearl" look of the mugshots at 29:19. That was a common way to capture any birthmarks, tattoos, missing digits, or other identifying marks on the criminals hands.
Real
ty i was wondering too but didnt know how to look it up myself!
The big “S” and little “R” on the blueprints really is just the cherry on top
It's my favorite editing bit :')
i giggle every time
the skeleton getting up was neat too
Its so cute
the growth of Ryan like 6 years ago being afraid if even addressing a ghost existence to inviting it to throw something at them or follow them when they leave is crazy
Honestly, in addition to the death-doctor-pregnant thing, the fact that the estes method conversation had the ghosts fixate on the torch/flashlight and then once it was established to be kind of "a candle" on how much they wanted to have it _in that set of DARK cells people would get shut into_ is pretty compelling to me, and I generally don't believe in direct and coherent communication with ghosts to be possible beyond extremely limited circumstances.
Ngl it made me kinda sad...assuming they were actually dead people and not something else messing with them. Prisons are never cool but this one seems particularly gruesome to have had the misfortune of being thrown into
the fact that there were literally no sounds or knocking AFTER shane and ryan switched court rooms was wild
There were
Depends on the layout. They're in a wooden building in a cold, damp climate. If one room is closer to the outside of the building, it would make sense for the wood there to pop and creak more than it would in a more interior room that would be at least slightly more insulated from the changing temperature as the day fully settles into night. Also, as they've pointed out in the debriefs before, we're seeing an edit of many, many hours of investigation, during most of which nothing happens. The actual events and their proximity to one another may not be as time-compressed as we see it. It's possible that, by the time they switch rooms, swap out batteries, set up their shots, and resume filming, the temperature has stabilized a little and the frequency of pops and creaks in the old wood has gone down.
Those knocks did not sound natural at all 🤣
@@johnplaysgames3120 it's also possible that it's a heating system set to temperature regulate and is only making noises every so often because, as you mentioned, wood be wooding. It seems they got noises for a bit and then it stopped for a bit and then it came back again?
@@johnplaysgames3120I mean you’d thing they’d put those bumps into the episode if they happened though
Man this season has some wild places. You know it's a good one when Shane is left sitting in the dark laughing because the building just won't be silent for five seconds. One of those easily dismissed 'old wood building' until 20 minutes later it's dead silent in both areas. Who would have thought the spookier place would be the nice building above the creepy gaol tunnels?
The thing about old buildings is they're so easily affected by temperature changes. The temperature changes a couple degrees inside, which is perfectly possible in 20 minutes? Bangs, knocks, creaks galore. My house was only built in the 70s but it's super creaky, but only when the temperature is changing. It's perfectly possible that the temperature was rising or falling when Shane was doing his solo, meaning it was very creaky where both Ryan and Shane were. 20 minutes later the temperature has equalised, no more knocks. That's far more plausible than 'oh well the ghost just left'.
@@Marzi29 could very well be the heating system of the building causing the knocking also, both of the wooden rooms that I'm assuming are close to each other likely share the same piping which would explain why they both heard similar noises in both rooms at the same time, but not during Ryan's solo investigation from the heating system being on/off. Another comment said the noises could be from a steam/hot water system, which ik is more common in the UK and older buildings and makes a similar clunking noise.
I believe in ghosts for a ton of personal reasons. The thing I find weird is how old places I know have something going on in them have periods of intense silence followed by noises. Others, however, despite being old, cruddy construction, are often dead silent. Despite heat having an effect on noises in a building, the more creaky, the more likely something is going on because natural creaks have repetition and happen in similar spots and make more organic noises.
@@Marzi29 this is a good point! I’m also sort of a skeptic, but for what it’s worth, I think they try to account for this possibility at locations by asking those questions that require a specific number of knocks, or need responses to be timely to be compelling (as with the maglight). that way, they can filter out extraneous noises made by heating, etc. :) at the very least, it’s an interesting approach to scientific method, haha
@matthewwatson6075 I've done investigations in various buildings overnight - castles, museums, jails, aircraft hangers etc etc But none of them ever made that much noise! Normally, a regular noise I'd put down as heating/expansion, but I think it just seems regular because of how it's edited. I also don't know how much heating they'd have in the court room itself. They would have a cold draft coming up from the dungeons, so that may create bigger temp changes. It might be that those noises are typical - I guess the staff there could confirm that.
the subtitles at the start "the clatter of ryan climbing on all the furniture" 😭
i was looking for this comment! i could picture it so vividly!!! 😂
ryan's all "I'd never get in a bathtub after you" like he hasn't been in a bathtub at the SAME TIME as Shane
it seems once was enough
@@SophieStoneXII 😂😂😂
“Candle” had actual tears come out of my eyes, that was one of the best captures
I love how well prepared Ryan is when y'all go to locations. It is amazing! I also love the notebook that Ryan will pull out. It shows he cares! I also love how Shane brings the comedic relief that we need! Y'all are doing great!
Not many people know this but that little notebook is actually a bible! When Ryan gets scared he takes it out and reads his favorite bits of scripture aloud. We all have to be very quiet when this happens otherwise he gets sooo mad! -Shane
@@watcher that's so cool!
@@watcher Ryan has gotten so much braver over the years and we are all so proud of him
Toddler has been put to bed and now it's my time to enjoy this! 🍫 👻
@@watcher I believed that until I saw it was from shane
Love how they labelled the sound at 13:55 as breathing when it sounded exactly like a zombie from call of duty.
Lol yeah that was for sure a lady ghost scream 👻
sounded exactly like a fox, which I'm almost certain it was
@LuAnneFoster Nah that was a ghost lady scream. I know because ive had ghosts scream at me a whole bunch of times (im a ghost hunter)
@@LuAnneFoster I've noticed a lot of people from the area (or similar) say that it sounded most definitely like a fox scream, a sound they've heard a lot and are very familiar with, so I'mma go with that over "disembodied spirit screaming through the veil from another plane of existence." Y'know, Occam's Razor and all that.
Same as when the boys went to the Conjuring house and there was that weird chittering from somewhere upstairs, and I and all the other commenters who've ever lived in a place with lots of racoons immediately went, "Oh, a racoon got into the house or a crawlspace or something." When it's a sound that you're not familiar with, it's easy to think "g-g-ghost!" but when it's a sound you've heard a lot in your life, it's immediately recognizable as something totally mundane.
And, man, animals make weird, unexpected noises sometimes. I still remember VERY vividly when I found a baby rabbit tangled up in vines in my backyard as a kid. I bent down to untangle it and set it free and that was the day I learned that rabbits -- which I'd previously thought were basically silent creatures -- can actually let out the most horrifying, human-like scream. There are many things I've forgotten in my life -- names of people I went to high school with, old phone numbers, my wallet (which I only realize after driving halfway to the store) -- but that moment (and sound) from my childhood is BURNED into my brain forever.
@@JohnnySpectronit's a fox... lol
Having Ryan yelling from a different room just makes it so much more entertaining😂
"I'm dry!"
"..did you just take a bath?"
"I think so!"
“UHHHH, IS THAT IT? WHAT I SAID?” 😂
"UHH!" "... Did you just die again?"
So glad you guys came to the museum! This was such an incredible watch and both I and some of the people who work in the building have been able to make connections with the actual history of the place too. Very spooky, and very exciting!!
Given that at the end when you guys were hearing the knocks that were active while Shane was on his solo, and then nothing was knocking while Ryan was on his from either courtroom tells me that could have just been the building settling/cooling. There's a lot of wood there to expand and contract.
As much as I want to believe in the knocks and bumps, I feel like I'm starting to become more on the side of the skeptics. Another lovely episode boys!!
Welcome
Always remember, you can't just say it isn't X - you have to prove it's Y!
That was my thinking, but there was the metallic squeaky hinge sound too… not sure what that could have been.
@@blukitsune Reverb changing the tone, animals dulling the sound on impact, different wood to that which was demonstrated on, different forces applied to the same wood making different noises, different shapes/cuts of wood. Theres other stuff, too, like mechanical/electrical equipment that can change a noise profile by asserting a weight on specific regions
Then, with all buildings with a profit margin partially related to the haunting, there's the less kind takes of "There is equipment in the walls", whether or not that went off deliberately is another matter. I know the Edinburgh and London Dungeons use such stuff.
The Estes method is always my favorite and this one does not disappoint. I can feel how dank those caves are all the way from Texas. For debrief: did you sync up the footage from Shane’s solo and Ryan’s interview and see if you were hearing the same or different knocks? Really fun episode!
Can confirm as a Nottingham girl they are dank, I’ve had some very strange experiences in them, they stretch across the whole city, we used to have a shopping centre built on top of some and there’s a very very old pub built into them, the castle also has an entrance into them that was also used as a prison and those tunnels lead to the pub
@@izziehw I remember they used to have a little entrance to the caves in the back of the shopping centre, like it wasn't really very well signposted, you just kind of stumbled on it?? And I hope so much they went to Ye Olde Trip To Jerusalem, that pub is 1000 years old.
i was wondering this too! so wild how shane heard 2 knocks and then the next clip was ryan doing that knocking pattern, i immediately thought “ok what’s the time stamp of those??”
@@madeline_jaeokay thank goodness I’m not the only one who thought that. It would be cool if it was the same time 🫢
Fun fact about the Estes Method, it was invented by paranormal investigators Karl Pfeiffer and Connor J. Randall while they were the resident investigators at the Stanley Hotel. I always try to tell people about them because its rare they get credited
The conversation in the women’s cells is actually some of the craziest, somewhat intelligent seeming conversation in the Estes method they’ve had. Legit weird stuff.
Funny how Shane said "doctor" and Ryan walked past a large board with the heading Medical Officer and some written information underneath.
It really wasn’t😂
@@Akosa117i swear ive seen you respond to every comment that mentions the estes method in any kind of positive light. its not that serious buddy
@@melibloo it ain’t that deep dude
@@Akosa117 exactly what I'm saying!
The Estes conversation with "Murphey" is honestly so wild, from the intelligent responses to the "That man", "doctor", and "pregnant" that could imply sexual assault leading to an unwanted pregnancy. Very intriguing.
Lol
It's actually really sad. Because the likelihood that a woman was assaulted there is pretty high. And it's sad if this a real tormented person speaking who is experiencing this event. They're real unfortunate people that died there.
@@Dasha-c4s Oh, it's absolutely horrifying and tragic, no person should have to experience something so awful. But that high likelihood and the intelligent responses are intriguing *because* they were real people. If whatever imprint of them lingers in this realm, then conversations like that are incredibly important and compelling.
@@humanincarnate316they weren't intelligent responses though were they? They were coincidental responses
@@IXSICNESS I don't believe in coincidences, not when they're *that* timely and sensible. But with everything spirituality related, it's up to interpretation. If you look at that conversation and say "coincidence", that's no more correct or incorrect than when I look at that conversation and say "intelligence". This isn't exactly a science, lol (though my own beliefs are rooted in the laws of conservation of energy and matter)
For debrief:
During the Estes method, "Murphy" sounded like a surname, as did "Edison" during Ryan's solo. Did you guys ever check the surnames on those photos in the cell?
And during Shane's solo, I know he was joking about "temperature square piece" being gibberish that Ryan would make meaning out of - but it genuinely could refer to the equipment in his hand. It's a square piece that interprets environmental inputs (including temperature) into words.
FOR DEBRIEF: i love how when Ryan hears a noise you can see the concern on his face and how his heart rate jumps up but when Shane hears a noise his heart rate is just around normal and he laughs and smiles
For debrief: Im respectfully wondering why with ALL those loud knocks in the courtroom, why didn't you try to search out where they were coming from or what might have been causing them? Or were they literally coming from every direction? They seemed way too loud to be just old wood in my opinion. Love the show and loved this location! Thanks guys!
I wonder if the noises were from a steam/hot water heating system. Those can make a lot of racket that sounds similar to what they recorded.
i feel like they must have been set up by the museum because the amount of loud knocks was far too consistent to be a ghost
@@EBuff75 Yeah this was my thought. I used to clean an old church and the pipes made a lot of knocking noises
@@EBuff75and I do believe in ghosts lol
@@EBuff75 i feel like it either HAS to be that, or they were set up by the museum like the other commenter said. Theres no way
For debrief: Ryan and Shane why did you stop sleeping at the haunted places? And if you could sleep in any of the places you’ve been to which would it be ?
(Love you guys, Day one fan since buzzfeed)
They literally pinned a post for Questions for the debrief. They make road signs for people like you
@@larxfr-x4cDude chill lmao
@@larxfr-x4cTh3Hat3r
@@larxfr-x4c y u being mean
@@adzappin_2567 y are you gay? We are what we are
After the mention of doctor, there is a placard on the wall at 35:27 that Rules and Regulations - The Medical Officer. I tried zooming in, but couldn't read more. Wonder if the reference to doctor was a person stating their profession, not someone needing a doctor.
SO GLAD someone else noticed this as well. I would have read the whole thing but I get that they missed it.
THIS i need this addressed in Debrief I am so curious if they had any other angles of that medical Officer board
Ryan's entire "conversation" with the ghost sounded like she maybe gave birth in the bathtub and lost the baby and/or died...
@@FloppaCar353 put this question in the #debrief pinned comment if you haven't already.
Hi! I'm Natasha, I work at the museum, if it's not brought up in the debrief, I'd be happy to explain a bit more about this for you!
Dang, that Estes session was CRAZY! I was half expecting Ryan to read Murphy's name ngl. That would have freaked me out as well lmaoo.
I am always impressed with the personalized title graphics for each episode. Amazing detail work, does NOT go unnoticed!❤
For debrief: First I giggled at Shane saying 'oi' during the Estes method since that's a very common phrase here in the UK so it was interesting to picture a British ghost shouting oi as you walk around. My question is, do you ever consider using phrases/terms maybe more familiar with the ghosts from each era you investigate ie British ghosts from the 18th century will only understand certain phrases and terms. I thought this since the ghosts referred to Ryans torch as a candle. Do you think this would make them more inclined to communicate/understand what you're actually talking about lmao? Great episode as always love you guys
Exactly what I think!! I often wonder how many spirits avoided contact because they couldn't understand or the guys' general high energy is a bit much lol
Shane /did/ attempt...the worst British accent ever. However, it /would/ be hilarious if they learned to speak legit old English, 'cause that was some goofy sounding stuff.
I'm sorry, but the so called "breathing" at 13:55 is nothing but a scream of utmost dispair.
How in the hell did the entire watcher team call that breathing? Even in the edit.
Sounds like an urban fox to me tbh
Ngl I’m pretty sure that was either a fox or a very drunk woman at the pub down the street 😂😂
@@izziehwnah foxes around here scream much longer every might for the past 2 weeks ive woken up to them screaming😂
@@Razzfarms I’m from Nottingham the foxes do scream like that too 😅
Regardless...whatever it was, it sure as fck wasn't "breathing".
It's actually the legend of Robin Hood. Dating back hundreds of years in the Middle ages, there were many men who went by the alias of Robin Hood that were criminals. So it isn't one particular man, but basically a group of men 3:27
Robin is another name for Robert and was parlance during the time.
Sir Tony Robinson did a good documentary piece on the figure of Robin Hood, in the style of the archeology tv-program Time Team (which he used to host). Can highly recommand watching it :)
Are you saying... its a... band of merry men...?
I too once knew a robin hood or several. Basically, they called themselves that cause this was Baltimore and they was robbin' da hood.
@@coo7664came here to say the same thing! 😂
For anyone wondering; "The phrase "shave and a haircut, two bits" originated from the 1899 song "At a Darktown Cakewalk" by Charles Hale. The song's tune became a musical meme and is now one of the most recognizable rhythms in North America."
That’s what I kept thinking. Unless the ghosts were aware of jingles from America they won’t be able to finish it.
Ghosts may be able to ignore it, but cartoons can't
.. please tell me that's not referencing some kind of racist minstrel show thing. bc that's what it sounds like ngl
It's from the film 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?' It's got cartoons and live action. It's a pretty good film if you wanted to check it out.
It's from before that as explained upthread.@@custard1062
Its so rare to see Shane got so many signs like this, i’m liking this too much 😂
I love how when they go to places in the US they're like, "oh this building is so old, it's from the 1700s!!" and then they go to England and it's like "this building has caves from 600 AD"
Well unfortunately the people who invaded America kinda fucked the rich history it might have had.
Shane was so me when he said “leave it up to god” and then laughed when asked if he believed
God Bless ❤ He still loves you, even if ya don’t believe !
William the stanky ghost needs a strict thumbs DOWN. The audacity to cheat on your wife while being notorious for a garbage odor is nuts.
Like pick an issue man
I do think that it’s really strange that when Shane was in the courtroom there was so much noise but when Ryan was in there it was DEAD silent. And the same for when Shane was in the other room where Ryan was hearing the noises. It seems odd for the creaks, thumps, and knocks to be just the building settling if it’s that inconsistent.
whilst in nottingham you should’ve visited ‘ye olde salutation inn’, the oldest pub in nottingham (1240) which has layers of cave systems beneath it, built in the 9th century, which are said to be extremely haunted and have a lot of history behind them
That’s debatable as ye old trip to Jerusalem claims to be the oldest
@@thorpy_8as someone from notts who knows the ppl who own sals, jerusalem is not the oldest, they don’t have any paperwork or proof dating back to when they claim to have been built
Ahhh! Can't believe you went there! I live nearby and occasionally go for the very spooky feels, even during the day.
A really cozy, spooky town! I bought a bath bomb from Lush. -Shane
My coffee shop is couple of shops down to lush. I can’t believe you guys came to Nottingham!
@@watcherbuying a lush bath bomb in nottingham is a real choice of a tourist buy
I'm so jealous. I'd love to visit here. A dream of mine has always been to visit the UK. Being ¼ English; ¼ Scottish & being a life long resident of eastern Massachusetts how could I not be.
@@munkustrap2being American myself living in the UK... the history bits are fun, the rest of it is as bland as British food. lovely country but also equally as boring as much of the US. still definitely happier here
For the first time I can actually say I've been to one of these places! The National Justice Museum is awesome. Shame Shane didn't get to see it during the day - they do fun re-enactments of historical trials and when I went they had a really good section on prisoner (mal)treatment and issues with justice systems both historically and in present day
Learnt a lot when I went!
And the cakes in the cafe are amazing
@@SarkyBrityou speak to my soul
Fantastic edit the transition from Shane’s face to the mannequin 10/10 straight out of Apocalypse Now
For debrief: the double-slit experiment has shown that mere observation affects reality and the results of an experiment. Do you think that if ghosts are real, recording them would make them less likely to show themselves?
Also thank you for acknowledging your “Sonic the hedgehog but with human teeth” choice a few months back and changing paths.
Omg that’s a really cool idea
great question
The most probable explanation for all the knocking in the wood rooms is heat and humidity. Warmer air can contain more water vapor than cold air, and wood absorbs this moisture. A change of only a few percent in average humidity can cause wood to swell, causing loud pops and creaks. All the walking and talking Ryan and Shane did during their group hunt likely brought up the ambient temperature and humidity in the building, and the wood was simply adjusting to the change in air conditions. Assuming there is decent air flow between rooms, this would explain why both rooms were reacting around the same time.
"Do you want my jacket?" Ryan, what a gentleman
14:44 It is super weird how eerily silent it was in the previous room & before they requested knocking in this one to then get these prominent knocks!
especially since when ryan asked “did you commit a crime?” there was SUCH a loud knock that sounded like a judge banging his gavel for a sentence!!
Debrief: Between 33:07-33:08, I believe I heard a whisper saying 'Right there' before Shane said it.
Omg i heard it!
debrief was two weeks ago. we get vids a month later.
@@ShinOkamiYTThey have a section during debrief for RUclips questions, which they film later and add to the original episode
@hannahfreedman8295 sick ty
For the debrief: you might have already answered this but uh… who does those super cool black and white chalk-like illustrations we see in every episode? I wanna give them some love
they look like charcoal i think! I also want to know
The artist is Mollie Ong!!
Defo deserves some love. Mollie, you rock!
it's in the description!
Shane was correct with the fact it was due to the entire room being made of wood, and especially at the time you were there. Wood contracts and expands with temperature changes, creating creaks, "knocks" and the sorts. Since the air is cooling down, the wood is contracting.
For the debrief: I'm a skeptic, but I like how the ovilus said "Edison" during Ryan's solo in the basement. I thought of Thomas Edison, which I thought was a little funny, as Ryan was down there with the maglite as the main equipment being used to communicate with the ghosties.
every time ryan says "notting- ham" a little bit of me dies
Nott’nm 😂
Also saville lol
Well then why is it spelled that way
England spells things funny
the American in me that lives here in the UK wants to defend him but... you can't say Ham it just sounds insane
I really like places like this, even as a shaniac I like the idea that malevolent ghosts like prisoner ghosts ignore actual attempts at communication and are just trying to torment you as you go around the museum. it would explain why there weren't many well timed responses or noises, makes it funnier the thought of them desperately trying to textbook haunt you but getting ignored because it isn't conclusive enough.
I'm from Nottingham, myself, This place has always fascinated me since a kid
I went several times as a kid, then got to do their spooky Halloween tour once as an adult, that was pretty fun and unnerving!
Love to see a fellow Notts-person
these episodes are too good! i've been watching ryan and shane since BuzzFeed unsolved a few years ago and followed them here when they decided to leave. i feel like they deserve their own netflix series for sure.
the amount of times i find random scratches or a bruise on my body is astounding, and i know it's just because i'm clumsy or don't really realize when i casually injure myself. i could never trust 'finding a scratch' as being supernatural lol
100% if finding "mysterious" bruises and scratches meant "ghost" I must be the most haunted man in America
Usually happens when you're sleeping.
I'm super ADHD on top of being clumsy. 100% chance that if it's a "random" bruise or cut that I've just forgotten what I did
Definitely ghosts but possibly aliens. You ever feel like you've been abducted?
shoutout random anemic bruises too
Love this episode, welcome to the UK. I have a feeling the bumps are from the central heating. My house does it too when the central heating kicks in then the heat from the pipes makes the walls pop and the stairs click. Such a pity I'm all for finding proof but I don't think this is it.
Yes! I was thinking that too because central heating knocks a lot when it's coming on, but settles down later.
I was also wondering if the idk rem pod? Went off when the temp spiked because maybe there’s a vent nearby?
I remember when I stayed in an old hotel and the radiator system sounded like someone banging against the window with an iron bar. so yeah, probably.
As someone who used to work in this building. Can confirm.
The pipes for the heating of the courtroom are directly underneath the table in the middle of the room. They're huge old pipes and everything in that room just creaks.
HELLO SHANE AND RYAN AND THE WATCHER TEAM
HI -Shane
@watcher I'M A SHANIAC YOO
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seeing shane turn to the loud knock during his solo and not breaking his goofy smile was SO funny
I did a ghost investigation here! Here's some of the strange things that happened:
In the women's cells, we had exclusively women's voices come through the spirit box. One asked for help and the other gave a name. I wish we'd thought to check the photos of prisoners for the name like Ryan did.
In the cave, our REM pod went off, but only whenever we asked questions, a range of yes or no answes indicated by either one or two beeps.
In the court room, we got loud bangs just like they did. To us, they sounded like they were coming from the room above the court, I think it was an office. The investigators in charge went to debunk this, but the office was locked, no one could be in there.
At one point I was challenged to sit in a locked cell for ten minutes. Nothing happened there, just me sat in the dark, but still fun. Thanks for visiting my home town, I hope it inspires others to visit.
That transition from Ryan threatening the spirits to Shane staring at creepy mannequin was quite hilarious.😆
I know it’s never gonna happen, but I’d love to see them do a ghost hunt live stream lol
Question for Debrief: Any plans to do any house haunts again? Or at least have another psychic on? Hannah Williams haunting was a gem from the company-that-shall-not-be-named times. Would also settle for more teaming up with Garrett Watts!
We definitely intend to do more house calls! Not sure if we've got any lined up for next season but they're always being considered so one may end up in the mix. They offer a unique vibe that you don't always get at your classic haunted establishment. -Shane
Awesome! Thanks Shane!
with a little digging, this museum has a railway on two sides of it. It takes 100 decibels to shatter glass and train horns at their maximum volume is 110 decibels. Not saying this is the answer to what happened but my first thought about the shattered glass was "are there train tracks nearby?" and this building is almost surrounded by tracks.
Being inside the building would likely have protected it from noise damage (especially as all the windows etc are perfectly fine), but I did think it was most probable that the glass was already damaged or flawed in some way, a train going past, a strong cool draft, just cycles of warming and cooling, lots of things might have pushed it too far and caused a fracture.
Hi, from Nottingham! There are no railway tracks anywhere near the building. They are much further away, at least a 15 minute walk through town.
There's a tram up the road but it's very far and can't be heard from anywhere in or just outside the building.
I wonder if Ryan asking them to knock twice 50:18 actually lines up with the two knocks Shane hears 51:36 ? that would be really cool
Idk cause I think Ryan's two knocks were a bit slower and the knocks Shane heard were faster. would be cool though!
Question for debrief : You guys have gone to tons of different locations open to tourists or on home haunts but have you ever considered going to abandoned/not so touristy locations ? For example, in France there's a lot of abandoned tuberculosis sanatoriums.
Amazing episode as always, boogara all the way cause those knocks would've freaked me out
Probably there would be health and safety risks, but it would be cool
It's 3am here. Lights out. Tucked in bed. I'm so pumped!
9 pm in algeria enjoying the episode 😊
Ah! Fellow Indonesian! It would be great if these two go ghost hunting in Indonesia, right? I am not sure they are ready for Asian ghosts tho lol.
OooOo witching hour
You tryna get pumped?
So you're a shaniac I assume. 🤣🤣 Ghost hunting lulls you to sleep. Lol
For debrief:
The Ovilus often spits out random words that don’t seem to make any sense. Could this be because it’s picking up on particularly chatty ghost conversations, or is it simply not a very reliable ghost-hunting tool, requiring you to only take it seriously when the words happen to fit the context?
Also just wondering, why not keep the SLS switched on throughout your investigations, especially when the ghosts respond with things like the mag light or when they tug on your shirt?
Been watching y'all since Ryan first started-absolutely love the show! You should make it year-round so I'd always have something to look forward to.
I remember the second time they used the ovilus on unsolved was at their producers house and they had it set a different way where it was like the spirit box and “spoke” and didn’t just say random words and that was far more compelling in that ep. Maybe that’s just once in a blue moon though
The ovilus is nothing short of a scam tool. It's relying on no verifiable science or engineering. In order for the Ovlius to "work" it has to rely on a couple of assumptions. Assumption A: ghosts are real (kind of putting the cart before the horse with this one). Assumptions B: ghosts can control electromagnetic fields (this is based on nothing except speculation about the supposed properties of something that hasn't been proven to exist). Assumptions C: those EMFs can be manipulated to represent words/phrases/sounds (as far as I'm aware, you cannot prove this unless you actively manipulate emfs around the device, and it can consistently spit out the same words with the same manipulations). It's nothing more than a pseudoscientific waste of money and materials
The unfortunate truth is that, as far as ghost hunting is concerned, because we don't know what the cause of the phenomenon is, we don't know which tools will actually record anything of worth, evidence wise.
It's just guess work. Like using leeches to treat a sickness because you don't know what makes people sick.
I tend to wonder about that method tbh. If, as they state, temperature and electric field are prompting, I'd think that a ghost needs a bit of time to figure out how to use the device. Like, what do I need to do to make it say something.
"Come to my room and I'll lead you to Ryan's room" killed me, haha
Big fan of the weeping angels joke Shane made. Especially since they are in the UK lol
My family and I went to the Galleries of Justice when I was younger. My Dad felt a hand on his shoulder and turned around, expecting to see one of us, but he was the only one in the room. It still creeps him out thinking about it
Ah ty for sharing your dad's story! You're the first person I've seen here refer to it as the galleries of justice, which is how I know it, has it changed its name + no longer uses that? Or does it use both names do you know?
@@samc2000I think you can use either name. I hadn’t heard of the name National Justice before this video, but if you search it up, it does come up for both said name and Galleries of Justice
@@EllieLeMoel ah ok that makes sense, thank you for replying 😊😊🌻
The place got National Lottery funding a few years back and renamed to the National Justice Museum. It no longer uses Galleries of Justice but folks who knew it as that (me included) still fondly call it that.
Maybe it was the stinky guy, *wags finger*
For Debrief: During Shanes solo investigation of the women's cell, I thought I heard a distant knock or thud at around 56:05 - 56:07 that sounded similar to the ones you guys kept getting in the courtrooms. Not entirely sure if it was just the sounds of Shane's shuffling or some other bump of the night.
I really appreciate how you guys always check what it might actually be before just assuming its something supernatural, keep up the great work!
When did Shane become fluent in German. He only knew how to say mustard a few years ago!
It's not Shane speaking German, it's the demon inside him.
Our bois grow up so fast didnt they
I love Shane checking his watch during the estes method like "dang this one is going for a really long time, when's Ryan coming back???" lol. Cause from his perspective theres no back and forth conversation it's just yelling random sounds
I work in the heritage sector in the UK and those knocks were certainly interesting. Definitely could be the fact the rooms Shane and Ryan are in are mainly wooden and depending on the humidity (which gets very high in the UK) the wood could just be expanding or detracting which is causing creaking and knocking noises. I would guess the museum has humidity meters for conservation so for the debrief it would be really interesting to get that data to see if there was a change at the time of the knocks kicking off and see if it explains it?
Also maybe invest in some conservation tools for future investigations. Temperature and humidity meters in particular left in the location could give you a graph of that data which could explain seemingly paranormal events. Though saying that a colleague of mine one had a room drop to -40 at 3am exactly in a room supposedly meant to be haunted so maybe it would give the boogaras some evidence too? I’d also trust them WAAAAYYYY more than the dodgy ghost hunting tools made by bias people.
It's so amazing to see you in Nottingham, I've hoped you'd come to the National Justice Museum ever since you went to Colchester Castle. Thanks Ghoul Boys!
I swear Shane's heartrate gets lower the more paranormal activity he experiences, as if it comforts him
the ghosts in my room are loving this episode so far. and so am i
Glad I stumbled over you guys‘ channel (via Rusty Quill, btw). I love how you combine a ‘genuine’ paranormal investigation with hilarious banter. Plus, I thought the various ghost-hunting devices were really well explained. Keep up the good work! 😊
I stumbled over Rusty Quill via this channel I just finished TMA.
@ That’s funny, you finished TMA and I’ve been binging Watcher. 😄 I love TMA and recently started listening for the 2nd time.
It is one of the best locations in the UK for capturing anything paranormal. When I went in around 2021, even the walk around where the staff were showing me which rooms I could film in, there were noises coming from the cells.
The cave underneath the building is the hotspot though.
I wonder how many prisoners met their grim demise in the bowels of that building.
So much corruption and greed, suffering of so many people both innocent bystanders and criminals.
Thats what goes through my head when i go to places like that
6:00 I think it should be noted that there is a very real phenomenon where sometimes glass will literally just. Shatter for no reason. Also if you see this, I love your outfit and earrings so much!!!
Yeah, I’ve worked in pubs/bars for 10 years and it’s so common for glasses to smash unpredictably on their own 😭 sometimes it’s micro cracks that you can’t see, and the slight temp change, or mishandling (she said she had wiped) can trigger a shatter
I once had lunch with a new co-worker and midway through the meal, my glass shattered into a million little pieces in my hand, leaving me just holding the handle. It was weird, but neither of us jumped to "g-g-ghost!" It was most likely just a temperature thing and, as @tashafry3779 said, micro cracks or something. Sometimes weird things happen but, just because we can't explain it immediately (bc, y'know, I wasn't going to do a forensic analysis of the shattered glass or anything), it doesn't mean it's supernatural.
yeah i think pretty much anything can do that if it's made wrong/encounters enough environmental changes
Grew up here! my sister used to work at the museum yearssss ago and I used to attend a youth theatre just down the road from it - was well known for being very haunted. I did a tour once with my school and I was convinced something touched me and like three people in the tour had to leave because they felt so faint. I don’t know if it was just bc they were telling ghost stories and it got in my head but that whole place has an eerie vibe.
1:06:57 did no one else find it funny that Ryan asked the ghosties to use a touch lamp then the word that comes through the ovilus is the name of the guy credited with inventing the lightbulb lol
For debrief: Shane, let’s say you were provided undeniable proof that ghosts were real tomorrow. Face to face encounter, scientific studies, etc.. Which evidence from previous episodes would you take as bible and what would you write off as coincidences?
Horrifying place … human beings are truly the scariest creatures on this planet … so much darkness… thanks for crossing the pond and sharing this crazy place!
Love that this is the season of museum visits!
You guys should come down to little rural Devon! We have tonnes of haunted castles and folk lore like the hairy hand of Dartmoor.
Also, question for debrief: how do you think a ghost responds to the ovulus? Like, if its detecting electromagnetic radiowaves, do you think the ghosts just think really hard, or maybe its an interpretive dance?
Agreed! A lot of the pubs down here are also haunted...Wistman's Wood is super eery, especially when it's wreathed in mist. I'd definitely recommend wild-camping on the Moor, might make for an interesting investigation!
the idea of a ghost doing an interpretative dance is AMAZING
@@OpaquePillowI can picture a ghost doing this long elaborate dance involving cartwheels, backflips and every other kind of thing just to get the word wrong
Shane staring at the mannequin for three minutes made me cackle so hard that my ribs hurt
the music/sound effect choices in this episode are phenomenal!
This is the first time that I am early for a video.
Ryan, you have gotten much more brave for the solo walk throughs. I am proud to see the progress.
Shane, you have remained a steadfast non believer. It is incredible to see your unwavering ability to stick to your guns, yet you go along for the ride.
For Debrief: I got very emotional during the Estes method when Ryan was talking to Murphy.
When you’re getting a lot of responses like that when and why do you decide to stop? You both are amazing!
4:44 💀💀💀 his little “no” 👉🏽👈🏽
ok but the estes method bits (with one person yelling what they hear and the other one frolicking about) are HILARIOUS please do more of them in a visit (yes im a skeptic but also the 'conversation' that ryan had in the women's cell had me reeling, thank you)