Better Than 1UP & KUAT But Not Perfect // Saris MHS Rack

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • The Saris MHS bike and cargo rack system is (in my opinion) better than the 1Up and Kuat rack options, but it's not perfect. It's modular, which means you can swap different bike trays and mix and match cargo racks and bike carriers.
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Комментарии • 102

  • @8rett
    @8rett Месяц назад +16

    I think the one thing you missed is the offroad weight capability, and one of the reasons why 1Up is considered a God in the rack world -- a lot of these racks have a different weight rating when "off road" is put into the mix, Saris says the rack should not be taken off road or mounted to any kind of trailer. They also say the maximum weight is 155lbs total, which includes the rack attachments themselves (effectively lowering the rated weight).
    It's unfortunate that the industry seems hell bent on cheaping out on certain things but advertising them with the highest of hopes, because the language in the product manual will be used to deny a defect claim in the future.
    This seems like a perfectly useful rack on-road, but not particularly better or sturdier than others in the same niche, IMO.

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад +4

      Fair. Tough to say where mnfr limits really come from and if they’re all directly comparable.

    • @rhubarbbs
      @rhubarbbs 29 дней назад +1

      I actually left 1up after using them off-road for several years. I was not happy with the performance. It comes down the the fact that the 1up uses a metal ball cranked down by a bolt to create the friction to hold the rack in the hitch. I found that the ball method means that even when super tight, very little surface area of the ball actually touches the hitch. I found that when driven off road, the 1up wiggles loose. I feel like it got worse over time as the ball or the hitch (or both) deformed from the ball being cranked down to keep it steady.
      For my next rack I chose specifically based on the contact patch being larger. It came down to the Kuat Piston X, and the QuickerStuff. Both are quite pricey. Way more than this Saris. In the end I went with he Kuat because I could get it on Amazon right away and with points, and the QuickerStuff had a six week lead time.

  • @leefitler4597
    @leefitler4597 Месяц назад +8

    On the 1UP rack the “stadium seating” for multiple bike trays is so you can get bikes closer together without overlapping bars, pedals, etc. Also has better ground clearance as stated in the video.

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад +1

      makes a lot of sense

    • @gevons
      @gevons 22 дня назад

      Saw saris and turned it 0ff

    • @99spokes
      @99spokes 17 дней назад

      Have you noticed the arms getting stuck up on the tire with the duo tray? I have trouble releasing mine and I’m wondering if I’m over doing it when pushing them up

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  16 дней назад

      @@99spokesthat does happen from time to time. I think it’s mostly that there’s too much tension on the internal ratchet. If you push the arm, it tends to relieve some of that tension and it opens easily.

  • @markmonroe7330
    @markmonroe7330 Месяц назад +7

    I have a roughly 15-year old 1UP. I am not sure how it would compare to their new ones but I have been happy with this one.

    • @mikemazzantini6397
      @mikemazzantini6397 Месяц назад

      I'll probably get a 1UP because they're aluminum...I've had my Thule for probably 7 years and it's quite rusty.

  • @justinclegg1654
    @justinclegg1654 Месяц назад +6

    The 1UP rack is depth adjustable in the cars hitch receiver. For storage off the car some versions of the 1UP have folding bike trays making the unit much more compact for storage. It all just depends on what you need your rack to do.

  • @hippiebits2071
    @hippiebits2071 Месяц назад +2

    Love my 1UP and no plans to replace it with anything different but that cargo basket option would definitely be a useful thing to have.

  • @WordupG
    @WordupG Месяц назад +6

    No one ever talks about QuikrStuff Mach2, but it’s another all metal, made in the USA, 1Up style rack. Actually it’s an evolution of the design by the original 1Up inventor. Pretty great IMHO. I do wish it had one handed opening though, that’s my biggest gripe.

    • @jacobgray3746
      @jacobgray3746 Месяц назад +2

      I like the way the quickr rack is built but the wait list is crazy and price is high imo.

    • @WordupG
      @WordupG Месяц назад

      @@jacobgray3746​​⁠yeah, no argument there. I got mine on the initial pre-order price, which was a lot cheaper than it is now. Waited a couple years for them to finally make it!

    • @jjswee
      @jjswee 5 дней назад

      Every time I see somebody post about the quickr, I feel like it’s an advertisement. Almost every post talks about hope it’s the same inventor as the 1up. On their home page they say this in huge text. It seems like it’s the main selling point.
      And I think this type of comment is on every bike rack comment section. Just feels like employees are posting it to me.
      Besides, for a single bike, it’s $700 versus $485. That’s a huge difference. 44% more expensive. And for what? Very high capacity, sure. But most of the operation is only slightly easier than one up. More tool free levers. I’ve watched a lot of reviews and I don’t get it.

    • @WordupG
      @WordupG 5 дней назад

      @@jjswee I’m not an employee. Just a satisfied customer. I have friends with 1up racks, and I have the Mach2. It’s just a better rack in a few important ways. Not perfect by any means, but a step forward in the design.
      I bought mine on the pre-release price so it was about the same as a top spec 1up. I see they cost more now, but still have a long wait list. Apparently other people find value in the design as well.
      They market that story about the original inventor because it dispels the notion that they simply stole the 1up design and knocked it off. I repeat it for the same reason, any time I mention this rack, the 1up fanbois always blast it as being an exact knockoff.
      I’m just glad we have multiple options for high-quality, all metal, USA made racks these days. Cheers.

    • @vjmtz
      @vjmtz 3 дня назад

      Have to say, as someone new to bike racks....this one is a bit of a nightmare. Its pretty unpolished and I suppose its for pretty much someone who doesn't mind its complexity and rough design vs engineering. So from the install video I saw its easy enough, but it has a lot of knobs and locks and mechanisms which would not be seen as user friendly. It's also very expensive...$700 for 1 bike is a lot. Kuat gives you at least 2 bikes for $800, Saris $900. QuikrStuff Mach 2 charges $550! for 1 Bike to be added. I also find the anti-theft lock add-on, while not bad...its a tad tedious to deal with compared to the integration Kuat and other brands can offer.
      To me this feels like a unfinished product. Good for what it is if you are ok dealing with its maybe not very end user feel and design, but I suppose that's its purpose, to be something for those who really are into their bike racks and don't mind the lack of ease of use. But ultimately the price point kills it. Saris, Kuat, and to a lesser Degree 1UP are better in this way, though I think 1UP suffers from the same kind of over engineering fatigue

  • @arndtbc
    @arndtbc Месяц назад +2

    I have the Saris Super Clamp rack its very stable and We love it. This MHS rack you have looks great too and we have a forrester, so well look at this ones wee replace our 5 year old rack.

  • @rocko10ish
    @rocko10ish 26 дней назад

    Great video. I’ve tried bunches of bike racks and my heavy duty 1UP is my most prized rack. If I ride alone, I can just throw the single on the hitch and if I need a second bike, I connect the second rack. Light! And all it does is work. ❤️

  • @andarenbici
    @andarenbici Месяц назад +6

    You say you don't judge which is better, but your thumbnail does.

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад

      It says "Modular"!

    • @andarenbici
      @andarenbici Месяц назад

      ​@@TheBikeSauceZing. I meant the title, excuse my poor Internet vocabulary. But wow, these racks are expensive. Are there cheaper versions that can stabilize with ties?

    • @andarenbici
      @andarenbici Месяц назад

      And can any rack hold a cargo bike? In my case a Bullitt.

  • @don_sharon
    @don_sharon Месяц назад +4

    We are full time RVers and so far this year, have driven over 10k miles, and last year was about 12k miles. On the motorhome, I have a newer Kuat Sherpa 2.0 and on my towed Ford Expedition, I have an 8 year old original Sherpa (60lbs max per bike). The Kuat system works well for us over various terrain, highways, and at freeway speed. We carry three bikes: my Ti gravel bike (Sherpa 2.0 on motorhome) and two Trek e-mountain bikes (original Sherpa) that weigh around 48-49 lbs each. Anyway, these racks fit the hitches securely, and have stood the test of time and distance. As always, another great video.

    • @thomashayden4522
      @thomashayden4522 Месяц назад

      15 year old Kuat with thousands of miles of service with 0 issues. Kuat is the best in my humble opinion.

  • @sturdyvw
    @sturdyvw Месяц назад +2

    Quikr rack is the best combo of everything.

  • @SarisOfficial
    @SarisOfficial 26 дней назад +4

    Thank you for this great review! We're so happy you're liking the MHS 😄

  • @mygamertag2010X
    @mygamertag2010X Месяц назад +3

    Looks very nice, I love the cargo basket attachment

  • @thewintersteiner
    @thewintersteiner Месяц назад +3

    Quality seems legit for the price point

  • @dodginglions5163
    @dodginglions5163 Месяц назад +2

    Great job making this video!…very comprehensive…😎

  • @thomasblak5315
    @thomasblak5315 Месяц назад +1

    A better comparison than the NV is the Kurt Piston Pro. That and the One Up are similar in design. I do like the versatility of the Saris. Smart idea.

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад +1

      Yes the Kuat piston is the Fox Factory of the rack world. Would love to try it.

  • @allan6344
    @allan6344 Месяц назад

    I like the high tech pre-production license plate privacy screen. There must be an engineer in the house.

  • @cm5896
    @cm5896 День назад

    The Saris is not approved by the manufacturer for a tow-behind trailer, such as a 5th wheel trailer. They specifically exclude tow-behind applications which is the reason I was considering buying it. The 1UP is rated for tow-behind installation. Looks like it's going to be a 1UP for me.

  • @kellvwen
    @kellvwen Месяц назад

    Great video. At 1:21 shows you putting the hitch pin in from the driver's side. Go from the passenger side instead. Then the wedge will expand vertically when the pin is tight and it will be super tight in the hitch.

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад +1

      Oh snap, no way! I did notice there's a touch of vertical play in the hitch this way. I'll flip it around. thx!

  • @obfuscurity
    @obfuscurity Месяц назад +1

    I agree with most of your analysis of the 1UP, except that it doesn't actually require two hands to manage the arm. You just need to unlock the rear arm first, roll the bike back and let the fixed rear lean on that arm while you move the front arm out of place.

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад

      But, to open the arms from a stowed position, don't you need to hold the lever open with one hand and lift the arm with the other?

    • @obfuscurity
      @obfuscurity Месяц назад

      @@TheBikeSauce Yes, but the bike will stay in place if you follow the steps I described.

  • @Miche27
    @Miche27 Месяц назад +3

    Awesome content as usual 👌

  • @51249ca
    @51249ca Месяц назад +1

    Would love to see a review of the QuickR rack

  • @tty04
    @tty04 13 дней назад

    Perhaps the Saris depth from the car allows space for the cargo basket when the rack is tilted up

  • @charlie_one_9
    @charlie_one_9 Месяц назад +2

    Love my 1up quick rack.

  • @slaisebam
    @slaisebam 26 дней назад

    I love my MHS rack.

  • @BruceChastain
    @BruceChastain Месяц назад +1

    What about when there are no bikes on it and it's tilted up, does it cover up the license plate or rear lights? That's what I'm somewhat hesitant about. My current, sort of cheaper rack I leave on all the bike and when not loaded it doesn't cover up the plate or lights.

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад +1

      Good question. Will carry from vehicle to vehicle, but the saris doesn’t block significant light from the rear. It does block part of the license plate, but so does any hitch rack on my car

  • @ronvaz2008
    @ronvaz2008 Месяц назад

    Quik Rack Mach 2 - although not as well known, this rack is a better evolution of the 1Up. I would not be surprised if both companies knew each other once. The DNA is quite similar. The 1Up however has a much wider array of accessories on offer.

    • @joshuarebennack68
      @joshuarebennack68 Месяц назад

      They did. The original designer of the 1UP sold to another person, then started Quik Rack. He is... something special... and not in a good way.

  • @s_a4022
    @s_a4022 Месяц назад +1

    Personally I do not trust Saris MHS - had it and replaced it with 1UP.
    I got Saris MHS and after just a few months of use (and not daily use or anything) one of the arms would not lock in certain positions - opened it up and some of the teeth on the cogwheel got sheared off!
    They send me a replacement which is nice of them but I don't trust this rack now. Looks like bad design and/or poor quality materials.

  • @virginiascurti5036
    @virginiascurti5036 Месяц назад

    You have an imposed weight limit on 1.25 of ~ 75lbs if you carrying more than one bike and 3 bikes are out of the question due to the load they put and a smaller hitch as the extends out per bike. I have a Kuat and I use a rubberized strap on the wheel across the cradle on the swing arm side for holding the bike(s) in place.

  • @mikemazzantini6397
    @mikemazzantini6397 Месяц назад

    The one up is aluminum, so no rust. My Thule, like this Saris is painted steel and now covered in rust. Doesn't give me the warm fuzzy feeling I would like when you see all that rust on structural parts.

  • @newttella1043
    @newttella1043 Месяц назад

    Those arms should sit as close to the fork as possible in case your tires deflate, the arm won't drop away..if you stare at how the wheel at the fork is a low point. It'll also prevent those arms from protruding.

  • @SkiRidesMTB
    @SkiRidesMTB 29 дней назад

    Kuat Piston Pro looks like a better bike rack to me. That operation looked way more clunky...bending over almost to the ground to tilt, the bikes are harder to load and unload. 67 lb capacity is plenty too...plus lights! The modularity is nice for families that go camping though.

  • @pauletavard7807
    @pauletavard7807 Месяц назад +8

    More plastic junk that will deteriorate in the sun. 1up all metal construction made in the good old USA. By once, fellas!

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад +1

      0:46 😆 there it is.

    • @kawabus
      @kawabus Месяц назад

      I have been running a 1up rack for almost 4 years and absolutely love it. IMO it's the best in the game

    • @itscaptainadobo
      @itscaptainadobo Месяц назад

      I ditched my 1up in favor of Saris and RockyMounts alternatives. Once black endcaps on the 1up faded to raw metal after only a few months in Southern California sun whilst the polymeric components on the other brands show no degradation at all. Great video showing how other brands provide more value as compared to antiquated designs that have never seen a real update.

  • @justinghio5035
    @justinghio5035 29 дней назад

    Comparing a NV to this and not a piston is interesting choice

  • @Frank-i-e
    @Frank-i-e 11 дней назад

    Is it just me or the swapping out trays make it really easy for someone to just steal the bike with the tray all together? Can’t tell if there is a lock on that bottom piece that hooks on to the hitch part.

  • @eddyvaltierra4737
    @eddyvaltierra4737 Месяц назад

    The only issue I have with this rack is the ratchet system in the arm I’ve already broken 2 of them and the warranty doesn’t cover it, you have to purchase the entire arm in order to replace it.

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад

      That's not the first I'me that's been mentioned in the comments. I'll keep an eye on it and report back in the description if anything changes.

  • @ericbeech2652
    @ericbeech2652 24 дня назад

    You may have gotten a bad kuat. Mine isn't like that. My neighbors kuat also isn't like that.

  • @dogface7966
    @dogface7966 18 часов назад

    I’ll buy the 1up it’s not $900 for 2 bikes. This one isn’t even on the radar at these out of the question prices.

  • @SergejGrabun
    @SergejGrabun 14 дней назад

    and what do you do if you live in Europe and we have ball tow bar... not a 2' receiver :( I spend so much time loading our 4 MTBs that it's aint funny and also bikes get damaged a bit during traveling as they rub in random places even with the best effort to protect areas!

  • @gabespartan
    @gabespartan 28 дней назад

    I'm partial towards aluminum racks vs steel, as the steel racks I have used all get rusty. Which of the 3 are aluminum?

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  26 дней назад

      fair point. The 1Up is aluminum for sure. Kuat - not sure, but mine isn't rusted after several years.

  • @dcv9460
    @dcv9460 Месяц назад +1

    Interesting 😎👍

  • @MazingerZX
    @MazingerZX Месяц назад

    That protruding arm is a no go.

  • @artcaballerojr
    @artcaballerojr Месяц назад

    Well I have come to the conclusion that 2 or 3 different bike racks are what is needed depending on how many bikes one will be transporting.

  • @jered2177
    @jered2177 Месяц назад

    Let's test lateral and vertical compliance

  • @prestaposts
    @prestaposts Месяц назад +3

    Saris consistently make inferior quality racks and have for many years. I’ll never buy one again.

  • @subliminalfreedom
    @subliminalfreedom Месяц назад

    Interesting!

  • @mikestivers8302
    @mikestivers8302 22 дня назад

    INNO, one of the best and most secure made of durable materials. not modular tho..

  • @fleetgt
    @fleetgt 27 дней назад

    Get a Lolo Rack. No moving parts or plastic junk.

  • @davidcrowson4745
    @davidcrowson4745 Месяц назад

  • @Scott-mu4xw
    @Scott-mu4xw 13 дней назад

    Try a INNO

  • @neillee4406
    @neillee4406 17 дней назад

    the MHS is by far heavier than the 1-up

  • @goukenslay7555
    @goukenslay7555 28 дней назад +1

    yeah your driving a subie, Those shitboxes arent meant to have bike racks let alone be stable. Plus your running an after market hitch even less stable.
    Always a fool rolling in saying they hear rattle noise guess what, they got a bike rack/cargo tray on

  • @BustedForks
    @BustedForks Месяц назад +10

    1Up for people who like products that will last a lifetime. Buy something else if you like to throw things away, including money.

    • @mattjax16
      @mattjax16 17 дней назад

      Had my one up for 6 years thing still works like a charm had plenty of bike racks before it that just disintegrated

  • @ellerybice3787
    @ellerybice3787 Месяц назад +4

    1UP 4 me. 🤨
    Your whining about them convinced me.

  • @EdZachary1
    @EdZachary1 Месяц назад

    I spy a TechDeck 🛹

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  Месяц назад +1

      Since high school and still going 😎

  • @torresalxndr
    @torresalxndr 26 дней назад +1

    You lost me at the first minute. Your issue with the Kuat is called user error my friend. Sorry. Going to jave to pass on this channel. I should have known better since you are hyping a Saris rack. Those things are horrible.

    • @sheintz7
      @sheintz7 25 дней назад

      💯 I stopped watching after 10 seconds since he clearly knew he was not mounting the Kuat correctly in the hitch or the bike on the rack and just wanted it to look terrible. What a sham of a “review”…

  • @sheintz7
    @sheintz7 25 дней назад

    I stopped watching less than 10 seconds in when you clearly didn’t mount the Kuat correctly in the hitch, nor mount that mtb correctly on the Kuat rack. If you’re going to make videos comparing products at least represent them all fairly. The Kuat will never rock side to side like that when you mount it correctly in the hitch (ie install it, put in your pin, turn the knob on the end of rack, jiggle rack, turn knob, etc.). It is rock solid with no side to side jiggle when done correctly. Clearly you just put a pin in it and jiggled it for show… Further, if you can’t even use the wheel chock/bar thing correctly on the Kuat how can I trust anything you say in the rest of the 10+ minutes. It’s pretty basic and elementary but clearly you just mounted it too far back on the tire and not ratcheted down correctly so the bike looked super loose on that rack for comparison purposes. I mean come on, so obvious to anyone who has ever used the Kuat correctly. Like I said, stopped watching after 10 seconds. Perhaps this rack is better, but I’ll never know because you decided to play games vs. do an honest actual review.

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  24 дня назад

      You typed a lot of words in 10 seconds

    • @TheBikeSauce
      @TheBikeSauce  24 дня назад

      Maybe check out the actual Kuat review vid first. It's mounted in the hitch proper. The video is longer than 10 sec tho, so..