Wow!, I have watched 4 of your videos in order and you might be fast becoming my favorite reviewer because of your attention-to-detail and honesty. Also, you review not to specifications but rather to how you and I will actually use the racks. Thanks again! BTW, please don't change when you blow up and get your fancy Gold RUclips plaque.. LOL
Another excellent video, your style and delivery are easy to listen to and I enjoy a non-hyped approach to your reviews... no extreme language "... the best ever!", "hands-down!..., nothing else comes close..." I enjoy a practical and pragmatic presentation of the products and issues that matter. THANKS!
Thanks for the review. Ordered the Mach 2 a month ago. I liked the easy on and off, no plastic parts, stepped trays, and it's made in Grand Junction Colorado. I suspect it will be my last rack as these should last a long time. Cheers!!
This is a very well edited and professional comparison. I like that you don't "pick a winner," because, clearly there isn't one. You couldn't have made it more clear the variables for choosing. I will subscribe. I like your presentation style and professionalism. Maybe the best objective comparison review I've watched on RUclips. FWIW, I have the QuikrStuff and for the reasons you give for choosing it. Good job!
If anyone was wondering about price, a quick check I did for a 3 bike system showed about $1550 for QuickrStuff and $1300 for Saris. So pretty expensive. Think I'll stick with what I have.
@@AndrewSmyk It appears a 3 Bike system from Rocky Mounts is $1150. Never seen this brand before, it looks nice. 1UP makes a very nice system and a 3 bike setup costs $900, which I think is a good value.
For my needs by far goes the QuickerStuff earns my vote. Lighter, more portable, treys that progress in height. BTW the progressive height might prevent the rack from bottoming out as well when going up a steep incline, such as the driveway to my home. Most of the time I'm transporting only one bike. If you have only a single trey mounted, the license plate and the taillights won't be blocked when driving around without a bike, therefore no need to remove the rack. I own the Thule EasyFold XT2. It shares a few of the features of the QuickerStuff, however I think that QuickerStuff beats the Thule.
On the Quikr and 1-Up, you can slightly loosen the hinge bolts to make the rack easier to raise/lower. This slightly fixes the release bar as well as you need less force to wiggle the rack. BTW I recommend taking the Quikr/ 1up apart and threadlocking. I found no threadlock on either!
Great comparison! I like the one handed aspect of the MHS but the Mach 2 wins in my book: weight, storage, portability, all metal, ramp with mounting ability to the rack, and setup up for add ons. Great products tho!
Really great comparison. There were a few things that I am interesteed in and wanted to share some additional research I did as a result. The Saris is up to 80lbs ea (2 trays) and the Quikr is up to 120lbs for two. Kids bikes are a not supported by Saris whereas they are on the Quikr (down to 12" wheels). Finally, I can't find anything on the Saris rack supporting travel on RV (Travel Trailer or 5th Wheels can be pretty violent back there). The Quikr rack does support chassis mounted 2" recievers with no downgraded to weight limit.
Great review and fair comparison. Incredibly helpful video. I bought the MHS because it was half the cost of the Quikrstuff, similar features, and one handed operation. Thank you!
Good review, can't forget the Quiker and even OneUp are based on an original design focused on CNC aluminum parts made and assembled in America. Thats a winner in my book
I did wait a long time for my QuikR rack, but it was worth the wait. Apartment living does not give one much room to store alot of stuff, and a bike rack that does not fold into a compact as possible size just won’t do. Most of the time it is either on the back of my 4Runner being used, or folded up inside. I can take it out of the back whenever I need it or leave it mounted without worry of theft. QuickR is no tools and only requires the key to mount and dismount, so convenient. True the price is way up there, but I wanted one made in America. They do have a lock that installs through the arm and supposedly can be keyed the same as the original rack. For some reason they sourced the locks from China. There are no plastic components on the QuickR rack and I believe this is a rack that will last a long time and is the only rack I will need.
Upper slot on quikrack works for bmx bikes for me. Good review. I had the lock on the 2nd extra rack on the quikrack get stuck which was a real problem. Had to drill through the lock and it was a pita to remove it. Rack was out of action for weeks.
I've got the QuickrStuff. The stepped trays help with ground clearance and preventing bikes from contacting each other. It's the more elegant design and its cottage company versus big Saris. A tip with actuating the release lever on QuickrStuff, rather than pulling on the red fingerhold, you can pull up the bar on the bottom that the pull handle attaches to. I agree it's hard to operate the red fingerhold and probably will get harder with time as I've found the screws and nuts on the QuickrStuff are subject to corrosion and rust.
The Rocky Mountain Guide Rail system looks to address some of the deficiencies of the QuickrStuff and Saris. Still a six plus month wait time for a QuikrStuff rack.
I canceled my order for the MHS when I found out how heavy it is. The two bike is 120lbs. The two bike Saris Superclamp I’m currently using is 32lbs. The Superclamp also just grabs the wheels.
Thanks for the concise, yet comprehensive review. The Quickrstuff website states that delivery of their product may be delayed up to six months, due to a disruption in the supply of aluminum. Maybe some of the larger online stores already have sufficient inventory to supply customers during the next few months? I don't know.
QuikRstuff is a very new start up company and unlike some of the larger well known bike rack manufacturers, do not have inventory. Neither do they have distributers for their racks. You will not find their rack in any store online or local bike shop. Only direct from QuickRstuff. The more orders they get, the more volume of units they can produce. In my opinion it was worth the 9 month wait. Clint waited for almost a year I think he said on a previous video. If you are in a hurry and can’t wait, QuickR is not for you.
@@walterreed8182 "If you are in a hurry and can't wait" LOL I just need to put a bike on a car sometime this month. "in a hurry and can't wait", more like "can't seem to manufacture their product after years and years of development".
Great review. I have both the older Saris MTR-2 and the new QuickrStuff Mach 2. I much prefer the QuickrStuff rack due to its modularity. So easy to add or remove a tray and not having anything stick out like with the Saris. My older Saris took about 10 minutes to add a 3rd and 4th tray and the rack also got very heavy. Is the new Saris just as easy to add a 3rd or 4th tray as the QuickrStuff? I do like the cable locks on the Saris and the one handed operation although I broke some of the ratcheting teeth by putting too much pressure on the arm to secure the bike. Saris replaced the broken parts free of charge though. QuickrStuff is now offering some locks that fit through the arm and go through the wheels which is nice. Not as integrated as the Saris but easier than a cable. Quickrstuff also has a ramp that can be used and fits onto the rack for storage. Nice for heavy ebikes. The arm operation of the QuickrStuff takes some getting used to. It takes more pre-planning to load a bike although once learned it is not an issue. Easier on the Saris though.
The new Saris takes about one minute to add a tray compared to about 10 seconds on the quicker stuff. However with the Saris, you do have the base of the rack extending from the vehicle at all times, whether there’s a tray on it or not.
@12:50 - I'm not sure i understand the benefit of the 2nd tray being higher than the 1st tray on the QuickrStuff Mach 2. Is this based on an assumption that the handlebar and the seat are at the same height on both bikes? If so then this should be noted. If the seats are typically lower than the handlebars, then it's more advantageous to have the trays at the same height.
My old Saris Superclamp4 1st/2nd trays and 3rd/4th trays were the same height and the handlebars and seats made contact. I don't have this issue with the QuikrStuff Mach2 rack. The long wheelbase of the QuikRStuff rack allows me to adjust each ebike to zero contact. Another advantage with the raise racks is when you lower to access the hatch. You can get close to hitting the ground with the 3rd/4th rack extension if you need to lower for hatch access.
I am a retired RVer. Not full time but only 3-4 times a year. I would buy the Quickr or 1up if the prices weren't so high. But using a bike rack only 3× a year doesnt seem to warrant those $1000 racks. So I will have to stick to the Hollywood or Swagmen type racks. Besides is the Quickr even RV approved?
Great information, thanks! Can you tell me the dimension of the racks from the reciever to the end or handle of each rack? It looks like the Saris is longer.
I wanted to get a QuickrStuff or a 1Up rack but both my bike and ebike have fenders, so I went with a Hollywood Sport Rider that can hold two 80 pounders. This thing is so bulky, heavy and awkward that I'm just going to leave it on my truck and if it gets swiped then so be it.
would you know how much weight max for each slot on saris and quickr and then the total weight, though concerned about no center support. - have a Sondors MXS with 3" and wouldnt it want to wobble. Are there secured locks available in case i walk in a grocery store. my bike naked is 65lbs with junk on it about 100lbs
I updated my old +70lbs Saris SuperClamp4 to the dual rack QuikRack Mach 2 with 2" hitch. The reason for the upgrade was a new 4.8" fat tire full suspension ebike at 88lbs (probably +95lbs with accessories). Each tray can hold 120lbs and I don't have to remove the battery, seat+post, or rack bag to reduce weight like my old Saris rack. QuikRack does have wheel locks for around $60 each you can place on each wheel (I have 4 of them). I also have a back-up cable and chain with locks to add layers of protection if I have leave unattended for a longer time. I also lock out the front forks and rear suspension because I was getting a lot of suspension bouncing (wheels are secure; but, the body was bouncing).
I have a Prius so not much ground clearance. Racks with a long base that extends too far out from the hitch is out for me. Is the distance from hitch pin to the end of base that starts to curve up shorter on the Quikr than Saris MHS?
Both of these racks are fairly close to the vehicle but I would say the quickrstuff is the closest. It also curves up a bit and with one tray there’s not much extending past it.
Personally I would be selling the Prius for a more bike friendly vehicle/hitch rating. I sold one of my sports cars to get an older 4runner, perfect as I don't care about scratches/mud etc.
Bike theft is rampant in my neck of the woods. Thieves have all the tools they need. No cable is even going to slow down Colorado Bike Thieves down. I simply NEVER leave my bike unattended.
Hi Clint, I’m looking for a new trail helmet and noticed you wear a Outdoor Master and was wondering if maybe you could give us a quick review on it. Like what’s the actual weight and how well it breathes and comfort. You don’t hear too much about Outdoor Master.
Wow!, I have watched 4 of your videos in order and you might be fast becoming my favorite reviewer because of your attention-to-detail and honesty. Also, you review not to specifications but rather to how you and I will actually use the racks. Thanks again! BTW, please don't change when you blow up and get your fancy Gold RUclips plaque.. LOL
Another excellent video, your style and delivery are easy to listen to and I enjoy a non-hyped approach to your reviews... no extreme language "... the best ever!", "hands-down!..., nothing else comes close..." I enjoy a practical and pragmatic presentation of the products and issues that matter. THANKS!
Thanks for the review. Ordered the Mach 2 a month ago. I liked the easy on and off, no plastic parts, stepped trays, and it's made in Grand Junction Colorado. I suspect it will be my last rack as these should last a long time. Cheers!!
This is a very well edited and professional comparison. I like that you don't "pick a winner," because, clearly there isn't one. You couldn't have made it more clear the variables for choosing. I will subscribe. I like your presentation style and professionalism. Maybe the best objective comparison review I've watched on RUclips. FWIW, I have the QuikrStuff and for the reasons you give for choosing it. Good job!
If anyone was wondering about price, a quick check I did for a 3 bike system showed about $1550 for QuickrStuff and $1300 for Saris. So pretty expensive. Think I'll stick with what I have.
The Rocky Mounts Guide Rail system for 3 Bikes is $500 less than the QuickrStuff and has the same features as the QuickrStuff and the Saris.
@@AndrewSmyk It appears a 3 Bike system from Rocky Mounts is $1150. Never seen this brand before, it looks nice. 1UP makes a very nice system and a 3 bike setup costs $900, which I think is a good value.
For my needs by far goes the QuickerStuff earns my vote. Lighter, more portable, treys that progress in height. BTW the progressive height might prevent the rack from bottoming out as well when going up a steep incline, such as the driveway to my home. Most of the time I'm transporting only one bike. If you have only a single trey mounted, the license plate and the taillights won't be blocked when driving around without a bike, therefore no need to remove the rack.
I own the Thule EasyFold XT2. It shares a few of the features of the QuickerStuff, however I think that QuickerStuff beats the Thule.
On the Quikr and 1-Up, you can slightly loosen the hinge bolts to make the rack easier to raise/lower. This slightly fixes the release bar as well as you need less force to wiggle the rack. BTW I recommend taking the Quikr/ 1up apart and threadlocking. I found no threadlock on either!
Great comparison! I like the one handed aspect of the MHS but the Mach 2 wins in my book: weight, storage, portability, all metal, ramp with mounting ability to the rack, and setup up for add ons. Great products tho!
Really great comparison. There were a few things that I am interesteed in and wanted to share some additional research I did as a result.
The Saris is up to 80lbs ea (2 trays) and the Quikr is up to 120lbs for two. Kids bikes are a not supported by Saris whereas they are on the Quikr (down to 12" wheels). Finally, I can't find anything on the Saris rack supporting travel on RV (Travel Trailer or 5th Wheels can be pretty violent back there). The Quikr rack does support chassis mounted 2" recievers with no downgraded to weight limit.
Great review and fair comparison. Incredibly helpful video. I bought the MHS because it was half the cost of the Quikrstuff, similar features, and one handed operation. Thank you!
Good review, can't forget the Quiker and even OneUp are based on an original design focused on CNC aluminum parts made and assembled in America. Thats a winner in my book
I did wait a long time for my QuikR rack, but it was worth the wait. Apartment living does not give one much room to store alot of stuff, and a bike rack that does not fold into a compact as possible size just won’t do. Most of the time it is either on the back of my 4Runner being used, or folded up inside. I can take it out of the back whenever I need it or leave it mounted without worry of theft. QuickR is no tools and only requires the key to mount and dismount, so convenient. True the price is way up there, but I wanted one made in America. They do have a lock that installs through the arm and supposedly can be keyed the same as the original rack. For some reason they sourced the locks from China. There are no plastic components on the QuickR rack and I believe this is a rack that will last a long time and is the only rack I will need.
The Saris looks pretty good. I went with the QuikrStuff b/c it's a more compact, lighter, and faster 1-bike solution.
Same. I just add the add-on when my wife goes riding with me. Purchased the ramp, recently. Really helpful for loading the 50 pound eBikes.
Upper slot on quikrack works for bmx bikes for me. Good review. I had the lock on the 2nd extra rack on the quikrack get stuck which was a real problem. Had to drill through the lock and it was a pita to remove it. Rack was out of action for weeks.
I've got the QuickrStuff. The stepped trays help with ground clearance and preventing bikes from contacting each other. It's the more elegant design and its cottage company versus big Saris. A tip with actuating the release lever on QuickrStuff, rather than pulling on the red fingerhold, you can pull up the bar on the bottom that the pull handle attaches to. I agree it's hard to operate the red fingerhold and probably will get harder with time as I've found the screws and nuts on the QuickrStuff are subject to corrosion and rust.
Wow, you'd think at the prices they're charging they'd be using stainless hardware. Super odd design choice.
The Saris, thesaurus. Can't not hear it every time . Nice review! 😊
The Rocky Mountain Guide Rail system looks to address some of the deficiencies of the QuickrStuff and Saris.
Still a six plus month wait time for a QuikrStuff rack.
I canceled my order for the MHS when I found out how heavy it is. The two bike is 120lbs. The two bike Saris Superclamp I’m currently using is 32lbs. The Superclamp also just grabs the wheels.
Not true. 120lbs is the carrying capacity. The MHS 2 bike rack is about 90lbs shipping weight.
Would suggest adding ebikes with fenders and the loading and unloading of same.
Thanks for the concise, yet comprehensive review. The Quickrstuff website states that delivery of their product may be delayed up to six months, due to a disruption in the supply of aluminum. Maybe some of the larger online stores already have sufficient inventory to supply customers during the next few months? I don't know.
QuikRstuff is a very new start up company and unlike some of the larger well known bike rack manufacturers, do not have inventory. Neither do they have distributers for their racks. You will not find their rack in any store online or local bike shop. Only direct from QuickRstuff. The more orders they get, the more volume of units they can produce. In my opinion it was worth the 9 month wait. Clint waited for almost a year I think he said on a previous video. If you are in a hurry and can’t wait, QuickR is not for you.
@@walterreed8182 "If you are in a hurry and can't wait" LOL I just need to put a bike on a car sometime this month. "in a hurry and can't wait", more like "can't seem to manufacture their product after years and years of development".
Great review. I have both the older Saris MTR-2 and the new QuickrStuff Mach 2. I much prefer the QuickrStuff rack due to its modularity. So easy to add or remove a tray and not having anything stick out like with the Saris. My older Saris took about 10 minutes to add a 3rd and 4th tray and the rack also got very heavy. Is the new Saris just as easy to add a 3rd or 4th tray as the QuickrStuff? I do like the cable locks on the Saris and the one handed operation although I broke some of the ratcheting teeth by putting too much pressure on the arm to secure the bike. Saris replaced the broken parts free of charge though. QuickrStuff is now offering some locks that fit through the arm and go through the wheels which is nice. Not as integrated as the Saris but easier than a cable. Quickrstuff also has a ramp that can be used and fits onto the rack for storage. Nice for heavy ebikes. The arm operation of the QuickrStuff takes some getting used to. It takes more pre-planning to load a bike although once learned it is not an issue. Easier on the Saris though.
The new Saris takes about one minute to add a tray compared to about 10 seconds on the quicker stuff. However with the Saris, you do have the base of the rack extending from the vehicle at all times, whether there’s a tray on it or not.
@12:50 - I'm not sure i understand the benefit of the 2nd tray being higher than the 1st tray on the QuickrStuff Mach 2. Is this based on an assumption that the handlebar and the seat are at the same height on both bikes? If so then this should be noted. If the seats are typically lower than the handlebars, then it's more advantageous to have the trays at the same height.
Yes, it’s to reduce contact. If one bike is taller than the other, then you would obviously put that one in the back to further reduce contact.
My old Saris Superclamp4 1st/2nd trays and 3rd/4th trays were the same height and the handlebars and seats made contact. I don't have this issue with the QuikrStuff Mach2 rack. The long wheelbase of the QuikRStuff rack allows me to adjust each ebike to zero contact. Another advantage with the raise racks is when you lower to access the hatch. You can get close to hitting the ground with the 3rd/4th rack extension if you need to lower for hatch access.
I am a retired RVer. Not full time but only 3-4 times a year. I would buy the Quickr or 1up if the prices weren't so high. But using a bike rack only 3× a year doesnt seem to warrant those $1000 racks. So I will have to stick to the Hollywood or Swagmen type racks. Besides is the Quickr even RV approved?
Great information, thanks! Can you tell me the dimension of the racks from the reciever to the end or handle of each rack? It looks like the Saris is longer.
I wanted to get a QuickrStuff or a 1Up rack but both my bike and ebike have fenders, so I went with a Hollywood Sport Rider that can hold two 80 pounders. This thing is so bulky, heavy and awkward that I'm just going to leave it on my truck and if it gets swiped then so be it.
Great review! Question, answer is obvious, but-in vertical position the saris prevents lowering of tundra tailgate?
would you know how much weight max for each slot on saris and quickr and then the total weight, though concerned about no center support. - have a Sondors MXS with 3" and wouldnt it want to wobble. Are there secured locks available in case i walk in a grocery store. my bike naked is 65lbs with junk on it about 100lbs
Not trying to pass the buck but each of these have specific weight limits listed for various tray configurations on their website. It’s very helpful.
I updated my old +70lbs Saris SuperClamp4 to the dual rack QuikRack Mach 2 with 2" hitch. The reason for the upgrade was a new 4.8" fat tire full suspension ebike at 88lbs (probably +95lbs with accessories). Each tray can hold 120lbs and I don't have to remove the battery, seat+post, or rack bag to reduce weight like my old Saris rack.
QuikRack does have wheel locks for around $60 each you can place on each wheel (I have 4 of them). I also have a back-up cable and chain with locks to add layers of protection if I have leave unattended for a longer time. I also lock out the front forks and rear suspension because I was getting a lot of suspension bouncing (wheels are secure; but, the body was bouncing).
Was wondering if you had any plans on making a comparison video with the new kuat piston pro?
I am going to try to get my hands on a piston Pro soon.
Can you move the wheel block to accommodate the bikes from running in the Saris?
No, it cannot be moved. But it can be removed.
I have a Prius so not much ground clearance. Racks with a long base that extends too far out from the hitch is out for me. Is the distance from hitch pin to the end of base that starts to curve up shorter on the Quikr than Saris MHS?
Both of these racks are fairly close to the vehicle but I would say the quickrstuff is the closest. It also curves up a bit and with one tray there’s not much extending past it.
Personally I would be selling the Prius for a more bike friendly vehicle/hitch rating. I sold one of my sports cars to get an older 4runner, perfect as I don't care about scratches/mud etc.
@@rezenclowd3 yeah it is true… but the car price is insane now. I am hoping the price will stabilize in a couple of years.
what car is under the cover ?
Dawsons car. He’s away for the summer coaching mountain biking/camp councilor
@@ClintGibbs I only ask b/c the curves under the tyarp look familiar.
Bike theft is rampant in my neck of the woods. Thieves have all the tools they need. No cable is even going to slow down Colorado Bike Thieves down. I simply NEVER leave my bike unattended.
Hey Clint, is QuikR still your favorite?
For 1 to 3 bikes it is. But check out the video releasing Sunday morning.
@@ClintGibbs oh awesome. Yeah I really just need it for 1 to 3 bikes and able to accommodate 16 inch wheels.
Hi Clint, I’m looking for a new trail helmet and noticed you wear a Outdoor Master and was wondering if maybe you could give us a quick review on it. Like what’s the actual weight and how well it breathes and comfort. You don’t hear too much about Outdoor Master.
Yeah, I’m testing it right now and will do a review in a few weeks. So far I really like it.
I'd start at the Virginia Tech helmet ratings website.