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Serious question, dafuq is UNS? Never heard of it. I actually went and looked it up, not surprised I’ve never heard of it, even as a millwright and CNC / machining center repair person. Seems super dumb. No offense, might have been slightly better off making your new shaft UNF and a matching bolt.
That was a hell of an endorsement for that toolpost system. Those were impressive cuts you took and it performed incredibly well. When you said that you wouldn't modify the original stud assembly, I could imagine thousands of machinists nodding in agreement.
Nice purchase mate. Great show. Now put that old stud in a very safe place, cause I have a feeling( with your complete investigation) you'll never need it again. The new system going to work famously!🥃Cheers
@@RadDadisRad If I spent "a fair few thousand" on a tool post, having to make a new stud if the tool post turned out to be a mistake would be the least of my worries.
@@edwinhsingmaster9135 Going to guess the old box the new one came in has now got a filler, complete with stud, and the grub screw, just in case it is needed, though actually aligning that screw again with the threads right both sides is likely to be a task Kurtis will dread, simply opting to either leave it out, and rely on Loctite 603, or drill and tap a new one, or simply never change back.
Once upon a time and far far away I was a machinist, machine builder and repairman. I am amazed by your skills in fixing broken machines and making new parts. You are a Master Machine Repairman. I am retired but still do some work for my friends. I learn something new every time I watch you work. One of the things that amazes me is the feeds and speeds use in your lathes. I attribute this to your use of very rigid tooling and carbide bits. When I started when I was about 12 years old I had only carbon and high speed steel. I learned on a lathe so old it had a box of gears to set feeds. I taught myself a lot on that thing. I kept a home made miniature amusement park railroad running for a few years. Learned a lot including drinking too much made you stupid. My step farther was a drunk. The other reason I watch these videos is the sheer genius in the presentation. Everything is very well done. One thing I really like is the way a repetitive process is set up to show each step the first time then progressively faster and the job nears completion. The fact that reality takes far longer illustrates just how much patience is needed to do this work.
Dorian Tools....good stuff! Started by a well experienced lathe operator. Who better to know what lathe guys need than another lathe guy. I use their entire line of thru coolant turning tools on our CNC's. They have every insert geometry that one would need. Well thought out, well built. And YES, we do use the metric system here in the U.S. 🙂 It's actually quite common. Being born n raised in the US, there's no way around learning the English/Imperial system but becoming a craftsman has taught me to learn and use both English & Metric. I very much respect them both equally!! Big ups Curtis! Keep the vids coming. You're both doing a great job. It's nice to see CEE growing and succeeding thru the lense in real time. I've seen ur subscribers double during my time here and that's awesome. Gotta be doing something right, eh?!
English? Same as Imperial, or is that yet another system? I do wood, and in the last ten years or so the non-banana system has began to creep in. Dam hard when half the plans are in good Red, White and Blue and the other half is in non-banana.
I fully agree. To many people get bent out of shape and don't understand in the US you often have the choice of using metric or imperial while most other places it is metric only. Imperial still exists in the US because people choose to use it and have the right to do so and the metric system is widely used in the US for the same reason.
@@ihdieselman Same in Canada I'm afraid. Everyone here can think in kilometers, liters, and celsius, but everything else is a hodge podge of one or the other or both at once.
@@shopshop144 Same as English for all practical purposes although there’s slight differences. Might as well get used to both. They’re here to stay, at least for the foreseeable future.
Heard that humming and saw the depth of cut and I thought to myself 'this will be amazingly either way." Also full props to them on not skimping on the packaging.
Damn, I had no idea a PhD in mechanical engineering was going to be required to get the new tool post installed on the existing machine but that was extremely satisfying to watch, I learned a ton and your skills never cease to impress! Cheers from California.
Throckmorton, machinists are called engineers in England & her former colonies as well as in other parts of the world. Here in the U.S.A. we are machinists, the ones who save mechanical engineers butts.
You answered my questions in the outtakes - whether the compound went back together as easily as it looked. I realized today that I’m not laughing at you in those, I’m laughing at myself having the same struggles. Great video, per usual!
It is always good sign when there is no screws left over. Good call on checking the thread. That last cut was more like plowing. The tip could handle the meaty cut. The Giggler did a great job of capturing the smoke rolling in. Cheers 🦘💯👍
Man, i fully understand how you feel about QCTPs. Unless it's just right, it's never good, regardless of how much it costs. And while machining for me is just a whisker above hobby, i've indulged in getting good equipment upgrades, testing or borrowing really expensive ones, and i feel exactly the same as you do. I couldn't find something that fit my tastes so far. Best i'm at is a custom tool post made by a really good machinist friend and mentor of mine, he's lent it to me to figure out where i'm at. Sidenote, we whine about our ladies spending hours finding shoes... then we're on the other side of the coin, happily spending years to find the right stuff. :))
I’m actually jealous of you being a hobbyist. I recently went from millwright at a foundry, to millwright at a paper mill…. Using machines that are damn near 100 years old you can’t buy parts for. “Just machine new ones”…. On the 80 year old Korean lathe with only a 3-jaw scroll chuck. And this company is cheap.as.fuck. Like c’mon, spend a few hundred for a 4-jaw (it does actually use a mounting system you could still buy a 4-jaw for). Buy us a greater variety of tool holders (the actual bit holders, of which we have CNMG, VNMG both in right, and a parting tool, come the fuck on). It’s gotten to the point we’ve (read me and another guy) invested into insert holders in right, left and neutral, larger centers, etc. and still can’t get the company to at least pay for the fucking inserts. At least at the foundry, they had everything and anything, or would buy it. They just severely underpaid…. Which seems to end up net neutral after all the money I have to spend on tooling at the paper mill.
Despite the apparent robustness of the pieces of kit you use, I enjoy seeing how much care you take, and how gently you treat the parts. It shows great respect for everything you do. All nicely filmed and packaged so that even completely non-engineering types like me can appreciate and understand it. Thank you both.
I’m not a machinist or engineer, but I do have experience with precision equipment. Just one little nick or burr can cause catastrophic results for the tool or cause the tool to “ stick” or “chatter” . Precision tools are just that, and despite all of their strength and rigidity, it is very easy to do irreparable damage to certain parts of these tools. Regards Mel from Quesnel
I always enjoy watching a master machinist at work. It took me a while to find one of the quick change tool post I liked. Got the same one you got works great.
One of the nice things for you is having a spare lathe to make the parts you need. I had to do a couple of disassembly/reassembly exercises to get the adapter made for my QTP. Nice work from you, as always.
From my understanding lathe is the only piece of machinery that you can use to build itself. A lathe would have to be the most versatile piece in the workshop.
I truly admire you guys for the patience and time it takes to make a quality video. Really enjoy your content and so good to see you being able to improve shop equipment.
A great video. I think you made the right call to make the new adapter. You also have the skill to make a perfectly fitting retrofit part to fit the new tool to your machine. PLUS you got the chance to break down the tool holding mechanism, thoroughly clean it, and give it many years of useful life with re-lubing it!
you guys are definitely a big reason why I pushed to get a lathe for the farm, haven't used it much but the 2 times I have, have saved us a trip to town. I defiantly need some more time to feel as confident as you seem but stoked to be having a go. cheers and thanks for another great video.
I got an atlas 12 commercial lathe at an auction and while it collects dust most of the time I do use it about 4 times a year to save a trip to town and the machine shop cost. So in the 8 years I've had it it has paid for itself.
ultra farmer, I am in the same boat as you. I was lucky enough to score a Colchester Triumph. I have used it for a couple of jobs already for my work. But I need to extend my shed so that I can set it up properly. I did some research and came to a different conclusion than Kurtis. I went with the multifix. I haven't pulled my compound slide apart yet to work out how I am going to fit it. Oh, I'm not a machinist either.
My instructor at school for machinist said a lathe is the only tool that can reproduce itself in entirety. You would need pretty much every attachment and a lot of special tooling but ot can be done
@@LadyDewBuild That's how it goes. Hell, if you buy a lathe and decide you're going to buy all your tooling separately (instead of making what you can) you can very easily end up with more money in the tooling than the lathe cost
1"-14 NS is very common in the US. I had a job to thread some large cast wing nuts that the customer had called for 1"-12 in the paperwork.... We called to verify and he checked the shafts and sure enough 1"-14... Saved scrapping the whole job!
Don't ever stop making these videos Kurtis. After major back surgery 6 years ago i'm not able to stand on my feet very long and can barely walk most days. There was nothing i loved more than working in my shop. I've watched all your videos and they are the best on RUclips for someone like me that's stuck in a chair most days.
The out takes are golden! The F Bombs are hilarious. The cleaning of your compound slide was way over due. Typical for a production shop. The new quick change is high-end for sure.
Glad you explained your decision making process in selecting a qctp. I have nowhere near the machine that you have, but the safety considerations are no different. Appreciate the information and sharing your knowledge and expertise
Dorian makes very high quality tooling. At the last shop I was at we purchased a CXA style tool post and holders. Everything was top notch and it worked on the lathe very well, fit and finish was excellent.
Your a genius and making thing like that, I love watching your work while sitting here in my chair with a back injury waiting to have surgery in two weeks.
I've taken 7.5mm depth of cut cuts in hardened material interupted and normal using multifix toolposts. The problems one encounters probably depend more on the quality of the toolpost and how well its fixed
I’ve had more issues with the actual anvil and insert lock down than tooling holders or the post on heavy docs. Always weird to take everything apart, clean it, lock it the fuck down, and then engage a heavy roughing cut and visibly seeing the insert shift some like wtf how did it shift everything is torqued the fuck down.
Having seen how you keep your shop and tooling clean I was not surprised to see the underside/inside of the tool post free of chips and debris. You are a class act !
i agree 100%, and if it were my lathe, i’d personally clean up the table and relubricate it with Red Line CV-2 Grease with Moly, to ensure that it slides smoothly
The rule of thumb with liquid nitrogen ( -196C ), is that steel will shrink by .0015" per inch and for aluminium double that. Heating to 200C gives the same amount of expansion without altering the temper of the material. Puting parts in the freezer ( -20C ) will give you 1/5th that of liquid nitrogen ( asuming room tempreture is 20C ), giving .0003" inches shrinkage for steel. Boiling in water will give .00075 expansion for steel.
@@jbrown2553 The alternative is to use Dry Ice (−78.5 °C) workshops normaly have red coloured containers with a black identification patch of this in gas form for long term storage that can be converted to solid on demand.
Nothing better than a straight up quality solid chunk of tool steel built to last 100 years. Going to be upgrading to a larger lathe soon from my 14", either a Dorian or Aloris tool post is first on the list of upgrades.
It's cool watching the slide and post come apart/go together, but it's neat that tools are so easy to change. Probably save at least a few minutes per job, and that's gonna make a difference in productivity. But the best of the whole deal is the outtakes. This is a good channel. Your descriptions and reasoning are sound, and spot on. Thank you!
In a world where health and safety has gone mad, its nice to see someone pour liquid nitrogen into a container without gloves and a thumb over the lip of the tub. In work I have to wear a hard hat before I climb a step ladder. Well Done!
Handling LN2 with no gloves is not as dangerous at it might seem, as long as you do not wear any rings that, Leidenfrost effect will keep you from being burnt if you get some spillage on your hand. Eye protection is absolutely essential though
The out takes made me subscribe. Seeing you mention taking the time out to ponder your approach was gold. I do that and never regret taking the time to think a bit about it. I'm glad to see the value of thinking it through presented. And the machining.
I have the Aloris version of that same tool post and can’t live without it. I set it up with the indexing handle inline with the compound so it’s never in the way of the work. I indicate it in with the compound @ 45 degrees or any incriminate of 15 degrees. I never have to loosen the stud nut. These indexable tool posts are such a game changer on a manual lathe and worth every penny
Just love the bloopers at the end Love your work Kurtis, your machining and down to earth attitude is so refreshing Wish you all the success you deserve
Thank you Kurtis & Karen I have modified many compounds for these type of holders & loved your machining expertise in this mod, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU!!!
Learning all the features of your new CNC machine will come in handy for making all the spare toolholders you're going to need (and for saving a ton of cash) for your lovely new QCTP.
Congratulations on the toy... I mean tool :D Hopefully it works out for you and exceeds your hopes and expectations. On the bright side of having to take everything apart to install it you got to check for any unusual wear or other damage points before they became an issue.
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Yeah, I imagine the fresh lubrication and cleaning would make that part of the lathe move a little more ssmoothly... though I really doubt it would've been used if it weren't running at least "mostly smooth", you're too much of a professional to continue using a machine that doesn't perform at its best while you can "easily" fix it.
Im very sorry for the person who was injured and the grief it caused from the multi-fix tool post. But im greatful for the knowledge. Thanks also for waiting to choose a better tool post….definitely interested in the one you bought👍
Congratulations on a job well done. There is nothing more enjoyable that making, modifying or redesigning equipment or machines to be able to do excellent quality work. You earned the right to have a "quick change tool post". Your master class series of doing machine shop work is worth an academy award. Keep up the excellent work. I enjoy your show.
Hey there. Great video. In my past I machined lots of titanium using 12mm round button inserts. Over time I found it very helpful to add a couple of drilled dimples in the top of the insert holders to prevent any slippage or movement. You might try the same. Have a great holiday.
An unboxing for some one other than homeless lol Love it. Is it just me that thinks with all the videos Karen is shooting ,she will be a bloody good machinist soon? Another great video. Cheers
Very interesting , in the past , I mean 20 years ago I used to work as a turner operating a capstone lathe . It had fitting for 4 tools and to Chang heads you moved the post back to a stop that cleared the job spinning in the lathe which turned the tool post to the next tool which let you use the next tool. This was before CNC or computer lathes but it ment much faster machining.
Another great video. Love seeing how the cross slides are put together and appreciated your explanation of your quick change concerns. Burning question of the day: is there actual Rost Off in the Rost Off bottle?
My 20 odd year old Taiwanese lathe tool post assembly is identical, I see you also tried my initial removal method of the post, before looking underneath!! I see the marks. I also left mine as original so that I could go back. Looks a nice unit, I hope it comes up to spec. Greetings from Tasmania Australia.🔭
Hey mate yeah was a bit of a trick that, my smaller lathe has same style but comes apart a bit differently I don't have to remove the brass acme bolt on that one 🤪
Gday Kurtis and Karen, well I never thought I’d see the day you got a qctp, it’s got some awesome features and no way in the same league as a normal wedge or piston type, going to be interesting to see how it holds up, I didn’t realise that a multi fix had weak spots, sounds like there pretty much flat out shit, awesome job mate, have a great weekend, cheers
Hey Matty yeah there's so many styles and brands out there but glad to come across this one it's definitely going to be a great asset to have. Enjoy your weekend too mate 😎👍
One surprise after another! First CNC, now a QCTP. That was some amazing cutting. I can't imagine a better recommendation than that for that tool post. Kurtis, now you have two new toys. You're going to have to find a second one (after the dryer) for Karen. :-) Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for sharing, that looks like a beast of a toolpost! My old russian lathe has a very similar stud or however you would call it, where the toolpost sits on. It is fixed in a very similar fashion - slight interference fit, drops out from bottom and a small bolt threaded half into the stud and half into the cross slide base. You mentioned that the bolt is for it not dropping out.. but i always thought it's to prevent it from spinning around. With you new stud don't you have a potential chance of the stud rotating around (even if it's an interference fit) if you somehow mess up and take too heavy of a cut or did i miss something? When i created a new stud for my qctp i just made a semicircle in the stud and used the old hole as a guide to tap a new half-hole and it actually worked out great.
This type of holder uses the black plate with the four bolts in it to keep the holder from turning during a cut. Like Curtis said you could use the dowl pin or the bolts, I myself would use the bolts but torque them down every now and then.
You executed that retrofitting beautifully. And the most astonishing thing - no parts left after dismantling and putting back the tool post compound slide base.
Great episode guys, very informative, liquid nitrogen 2 thou interference fit...coool 🤣 Definately looks the part..cant wait to see in real action next week. Have a great weekend..regards patchy 🍻🍕🍻🍕
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering boy if the nitrogen did not work there would have 3 hours of a blooper real too watch ,, and a lot of beeps and more beeping ,, glad it worked out ,, you tube would have said fix the beeping words lol ,,
Karen🤦♀️ “Just do one thing at a time that’s all you can manage” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Karen your awesome 😍. Homeless🤬 feeling left out what no parcel for me but I’m the star of the show👍🏴
I’ve been at this game for 48 yrs here in North America and have never received a good explanation about 1” fine threads. Every chart lists 1 x 12 as NF and 1 x 14 as NS. Yet if you walk into any bolt supply or industrial supply over here and ask for a 1” fine nut or bolt it will be 14 tpi. Any 1” x 12 bolt or nut will be a special order. Nice job on the install. You will be happy with that post. Keep it clean and it will repeat very well.
The DeLorean toolpost does look amazing. A shame it's measured in bananas, but then nothing's perfect. BTW I know us Ozzies are built tough, but poring liquid nitrogen into a container with bare hands and your thumb inside the container is really pushing your luck. Keep up the great videos!
Well researched purchase Kurtis, a proper toolpost for all of your big lathe tooling and capable operator! Got a kick out of Homie's disappointed expression when the box was opened. I'm sure there is always something to his liking around CEE. Great presentation as always.
P'fect job on a rainy day Karen does know her sarcasm: (36:10) ""we'll do one thing at a time because that's kind of what you can manage" Sounds like my youngest daughter
To be honest, i have been wanting to say something about you being the only machinist that I've seen on yt that doesn't use a quick change but you're so damned fast at manually switchin out your tooling with the shims that I've just sat back impressed as hell
Thank you for sharing . Good work team . I like the way you always leave a way of putting things back to where you started. Wisdom learned the hard way is the best.
I was the first commentor that asked you about quick change tool posts way back when you had only a couple hundred people. I just got a quick change for our workshop lathe from Hare and Forbes, it's a QA-140 for a 16mm stud on the compound. It uses 16mm tooling so only a baby compared to your stuff.
For any tool post, rigidity is a must. That's a solid post you have there so using it will make life a little easier. Used a smaller quick change on oil drill threads on site, desert and jungle locations which really made my day in the 1980's.
You guys have to have the best site on RUclips !!! Honest no bullshit, best machining skills I’ve ever seen for being self taught ever, and I’ve said it before , the video skills absolutely is is the defining factor for your success, love it, and the dog how can you lose! ❤️
Thank you for your videos! Both of you put a great deal of work - and skill - into this and it shows. I was especially interested in the subject of this video as I have wondered about the merits of changing my lathe tool post from standard to quick change. I am new to lathes and after listening to this I think I will stick with the standard tool post for a while. Cheers from the currently frigid state of Iowa in the USA!
I thought I heard it raining around 6 minutes in....then Homeless showed me it was raining at 8 minutes...good to see you are getting some Springtime Rain.....Rainy Days are my favorite in the shop.....watching the rain form the open door and hearing it on the roof.......Lovely......Cheers, Paul
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering great for the aquifer......since you are the 2nd driest continent, I believe, rain is always good....love that new QCTP.....4 side, and stops......I am jealous.....and taking over a !/4 banana depth cut.....wow......great investment.....the part about the ENCO type holder exploding was very informative....thanks for pointing that out....cheers, Paul
Wow !! Very impress with this tool I had used in the past here in the states. I am also very impress with you two the video is just awesome, Kurt skill are very high tech. Take care and thank you 😊
After all this time we have our first quick change tool post! But are we going to like it and is it rigid enough? 🤨
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Serious question, dafuq is UNS? Never heard of it. I actually went and looked it up, not surprised I’ve never heard of it, even as a millwright and CNC / machining center repair person.
Seems super dumb. No offense, might have been slightly better off making your new shaft UNF and a matching bolt.
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Congrats on your new quick change toolpost and welcome to the 21st century !
Подари мне резак или полуавтомат
That was a hell of an endorsement for that toolpost system. Those were impressive cuts you took and it performed incredibly well.
When you said that you wouldn't modify the original stud assembly, I could imagine thousands of machinists nodding in agreement.
You’d be surprised how many would modify the original stud.
My head was rattling side to side. I might even have considered machining the Dorian.
Nice purchase mate. Great show. Now put that old stud in a very safe place, cause I have a feeling( with your complete investigation) you'll never need it again. The new system going to work famously!🥃Cheers
@@RadDadisRad If I spent "a fair few thousand" on a tool post, having to make a new stud if the tool post turned out to be a mistake would be the least of my worries.
@@edwinhsingmaster9135 Going to guess the old box the new one came in has now got a filler, complete with stud, and the grub screw, just in case it is needed, though actually aligning that screw again with the threads right both sides is likely to be a task Kurtis will dread, simply opting to either leave it out, and rely on Loctite 603, or drill and tap a new one, or simply never change back.
Once upon a time and far far away I was a machinist, machine builder and repairman. I am amazed by your skills in fixing broken machines and making new parts. You are a Master Machine Repairman. I am retired but still do some work for my friends. I learn something new every time I watch you work.
One of the things that amazes me is the feeds and speeds use in your lathes. I attribute this to your use of very rigid tooling and carbide bits. When I started when I was about 12 years old I had only carbon and high speed steel. I learned on a lathe so old it had a box of gears to set feeds. I taught myself a lot on that thing. I kept a home made miniature amusement park railroad running for a few years. Learned a lot including drinking too much made you stupid. My step farther was a drunk.
The other reason I watch these videos is the sheer genius in the presentation. Everything is very well done. One thing I really like is the way a repetitive process is set up to show each step the first time then progressively faster and the job nears completion. The fact that reality takes far longer illustrates just how much patience is needed to do this work.
Dorian Tools....good stuff! Started by a well experienced lathe operator. Who better to know what lathe guys need than another lathe guy. I use their entire line of thru coolant turning tools on our CNC's. They have every insert geometry that one would need. Well thought out, well built. And YES, we do use the metric system here in the U.S. 🙂 It's actually quite common. Being born n raised in the US, there's no way around learning the English/Imperial system but becoming a craftsman has taught me to learn and use both English & Metric. I very much respect them both equally!! Big ups Curtis! Keep the vids coming. You're both doing a great job. It's nice to see CEE growing and succeeding thru the lense in real time. I've seen ur subscribers double during my time here and that's awesome. Gotta be doing something right, eh?!
English? Same as Imperial, or is that yet another system? I do wood, and in the last ten years or so the non-banana system has began to creep in. Dam hard when half the plans are in good Red, White and Blue and the other half is in non-banana.
I fully agree. To many people get bent out of shape and don't understand in the US you often have the choice of using metric or imperial while most other places it is metric only. Imperial still exists in the US because people choose to use it and have the right to do so and the metric system is widely used in the US for the same reason.
@@ihdieselman a 4'x8' sheet of plywood is still 4'x8' no matter how many measuring systems one uses. Now the thickness is another story.
@@ihdieselman Same in Canada I'm afraid. Everyone here can think in kilometers, liters, and celsius, but everything else is a hodge podge of one or the other or both at once.
@@shopshop144 Same as English for all practical purposes although there’s slight differences. Might as well get used to both. They’re here to stay, at least for the foreseeable future.
WOW Kurtis, I didn't expect this much disassembly for a tool post swap out. However, I watch every minute of it. Thanks.
Heard that humming and saw the depth of cut and I thought to myself 'this will be amazingly either way." Also full props to them on not skimping on the packaging.
Nicely made packaging box! Definitely stood up to the travel across the world
Is anyone else super impressed with this guys welding and machining skills? Let alone for a guys probably in his late 30's.
Damn, I had no idea a PhD in mechanical engineering was going to be required to get the new tool post installed on the existing machine but that was extremely satisfying to watch, I learned a ton and your skills never cease to impress! Cheers from California.
Throckmorton, machinists are called engineers in England & her former colonies as well as in other parts of the world. Here in the U.S.A. we are machinists, the ones who save mechanical engineers butts.
‘Merica!
You answered my questions in the outtakes - whether the compound went back together as easily as it looked. I realized today that I’m not laughing at you in those, I’m laughing at myself having the same struggles.
Great video, per usual!
It is always good sign when there is no screws left over. Good call on checking the thread.
That last cut was more like plowing. The tip could handle the meaty cut.
The Giggler did a great job of capturing the smoke rolling in.
Cheers 🦘💯👍
Awesome observations thanks for sharing your thoughts of the vid
Love your channel the outtakes are so funny and your relationship with your wife is charming. I have learned is over the moon…Big thank you!
Man, i fully understand how you feel about QCTPs.
Unless it's just right, it's never good, regardless of how much it costs. And while machining for me is just a whisker above hobby, i've indulged in getting good equipment upgrades, testing or borrowing really expensive ones, and i feel exactly the same as you do.
I couldn't find something that fit my tastes so far. Best i'm at is a custom tool post made by a really good machinist friend and mentor of mine, he's lent it to me to figure out where i'm at.
Sidenote, we whine about our ladies spending hours finding shoes... then we're on the other side of the coin, happily spending years to find the right stuff. :))
Respect to that mate it's taken many many years for me to find the right one! Hopefully it continues to perform and help speed up jobs for us
I’m actually jealous of you being a hobbyist.
I recently went from millwright at a foundry, to millwright at a paper mill…. Using machines that are damn near 100 years old you can’t buy parts for. “Just machine new ones”…. On the 80 year old Korean lathe with only a 3-jaw scroll chuck. And this company is cheap.as.fuck. Like c’mon, spend a few hundred for a 4-jaw (it does actually use a mounting system you could still buy a 4-jaw for). Buy us a greater variety of tool holders (the actual bit holders, of which we have CNMG, VNMG both in right, and a parting tool, come the fuck on).
It’s gotten to the point we’ve (read me and another guy) invested into insert holders in right, left and neutral, larger centers, etc. and still can’t get the company to at least pay for the fucking inserts.
At least at the foundry, they had everything and anything, or would buy it. They just severely underpaid…. Which seems to end up net neutral after all the money I have to spend on tooling at the paper mill.
I'm just a hobby machinist. I actually miss the old "Lantern" style on my old lathe.
Despite the apparent robustness of the pieces of kit you use, I enjoy seeing how much care you take, and how gently you treat the parts. It shows great respect for everything you do. All nicely filmed and packaged so that even completely non-engineering types like me can appreciate and understand it. Thank you both.
that's exactly what i was thinking but could never articulate it that well :)
I’m not a machinist or engineer, but I do have experience with precision equipment. Just one little nick or burr can cause catastrophic results for the tool or cause the tool to “ stick” or “chatter” . Precision tools are just that, and despite all of their strength and rigidity, it is very easy to do irreparable damage to certain parts of these tools.
Regards
Mel from Quesnel
I always enjoy watching a master machinist at work. It took me a while to find one of the quick change tool post I liked. Got the same one you got works great.
Awesome 😎👊
One of the nice things for you is having a spare lathe to make the parts you need. I had to do a couple of disassembly/reassembly exercises to get the adapter made for my QTP. Nice work from you, as always.
From my understanding lathe is the only piece of machinery that you can use to build itself.
A lathe would have to be the most versatile piece in the workshop.
I truly admire you guys for the patience and time it takes to make a quality video. Really enjoy your content and so good to see you being able to improve shop equipment.
Started the vid at 18,883, it's 89,082 now.
I know we can all state, this is an excellent channel. !
A great video. I think you made the right call to make the new adapter. You also have the skill to make a perfectly fitting retrofit part to fit the new tool to your machine. PLUS you got the chance to break down the tool holding mechanism, thoroughly clean it, and give it many years of useful life with re-lubing it!
And I have a red noise pit! Watching your videos have opened a world of things im learning to do ! Thks
Used the same style tool post back in the day (late 90’s). Brought back some memories, especially that sound it makes when you turn the handle!
you guys are definitely a big reason why I pushed to get a lathe for the farm, haven't used it much but the 2 times I have, have saved us a trip to town. I defiantly need some more time to feel as confident as you seem but stoked to be having a go. cheers and thanks for another great video.
Way to go mate!
I got an atlas 12 commercial lathe at an auction and while it collects dust most of the time I do use it about 4 times a year to save a trip to town and the machine shop cost. So in the 8 years I've had it it has paid for itself.
Better !! Just !! BUY !! Another !! GLOSSY !! TRACTOR !!!! FOR !! YOUR !! GLOSSY !!! FARM !!! SHED !!!!
ultra farmer, I am in the same boat as you. I was lucky enough to score a Colchester Triumph. I have used it for a couple of jobs already for my work. But I need to extend my shed so that I can set it up properly. I did some research and came to a different conclusion than Kurtis. I went with the multifix. I haven't pulled my compound slide apart yet to work out how I am going to fit it. Oh, I'm not a machinist either.
Great respect that you write back to everyone with so many viewers. Greetings from Poland
Always loved the fact that with a Lathe and a mill, one can make parts for them with them. Thanks for sharing
Thats true although you often need a second lathe to make parts for the first lathe when you break it..:)
My instructor at school for machinist said a lathe is the only tool that can reproduce itself in entirety. You would need pretty much every attachment and a lot of special tooling but ot can be done
Oh man when I got into machining as a hobby I find myself almost constantly using tools to make tools, for other tools....
@@Tezza120 Same, Once I got my lathe it seems I was making more tools or fixtures then actual parts. Fun non the less though :D
@@LadyDewBuild
That's how it goes.
Hell, if you buy a lathe and decide you're going to buy all your tooling separately (instead of making what you can) you can very easily end up with more money in the tooling than the lathe cost
Your skill at running the machine is astounding; your skill at tool construction and maintenance is just as astounding.
1"-14 NS is very common in the US.
I had a job to thread some large cast wing nuts that the customer had called for 1"-12 in the paperwork....
We called to verify and he checked the shafts and sure enough 1"-14...
Saved scrapping the whole job!
Don't ever stop making these videos Kurtis. After major back surgery 6 years ago i'm not able to stand on my feet very long and can barely walk most days. There was nothing i loved more than working in my shop. I've watched all your videos and they are the best on RUclips for someone like me that's stuck in a chair most days.
The out takes are golden! The F Bombs are hilarious. The cleaning of your compound slide was way over due. Typical for a production shop. The new quick change is high-end for sure.
Glad you explained your decision making process in selecting a qctp. I have nowhere near the machine that you have, but the safety considerations are no different. Appreciate the information and sharing your knowledge and expertise
Красивое решение. Аплодисменты!!! Светлая голова и золотые руки.
Translation: Beautiful solution. Applause!!! Bright head and golden hands
Dorian makes very high quality tooling. At the last shop I was at we purchased a CXA style tool post and holders. Everything was top notch and it worked on the lathe very well, fit and finish was excellent.
Sign from Kurtis that he respects the tool at the unboxing: He used the word "inch".
Your a genius and making thing like that, I love watching your work while sitting here in my chair with a back injury waiting to have surgery in two weeks.
I've taken 7.5mm depth of cut cuts in hardened material interupted and normal using multifix toolposts. The problems one encounters probably depend more on the quality of the toolpost and how well its fixed
We could use 80% of inserts length 20 to 24mm depth of cut.
I’ve had more issues with the actual anvil and insert lock down than tooling holders or the post on heavy docs. Always weird to take everything apart, clean it, lock it the fuck down, and then engage a heavy roughing cut and visibly seeing the insert shift some like wtf how did it shift everything is torqued the fuck down.
Having seen how you keep your shop and tooling clean I was not surprised to see the underside/inside of the tool post free of chips and debris. You are a class act !
i agree 100%, and if it were my lathe, i’d personally clean up the table and relubricate it with Red Line CV-2 Grease with Moly, to ensure that it slides smoothly
You did a good job setting up and expertly explaining the attributes of your machining holder great job
Cheers mate thanks for watching
The rule of thumb with liquid nitrogen ( -196C ), is that steel will shrink by .0015" per inch and for aluminium double that. Heating to 200C gives the same amount of expansion without altering the temper of the material. Puting parts in the freezer ( -20C ) will give you 1/5th that of liquid nitrogen ( asuming room tempreture is 20C ), giving .0003" inches shrinkage for steel. Boiling in water will give .00075 expansion for steel.
I try to keep LN2 around for rare cases like this, but I found it has a shelf life of only 6 mo. and you have to throw it out.
@@jbrown2553 The alternative is to use Dry Ice (−78.5 °C) workshops normaly have red coloured containers with a black identification patch of this in gas form for long term storage that can be converted to solid on demand.
Nothing better than a straight up quality solid chunk of tool steel built to last 100 years. Going to be upgrading to a larger lathe soon from my 14", either a Dorian or Aloris tool post is first on the list of upgrades.
When this started, I thought, “Some assembly required.” As the video went on, it became clear this was, “Some FABRICATION required!
Like a Christmas Present for Machinist
But like me with toys, batteries not included!
"We're going to take it all apart and then see how we're going to do it"--it doesn't get any better than that. Love it!
Super interesting stuff and, weirdly, I really enjoyed the cleaning and light lubing bit before reassembly. I could do that stuff all day!
It's cool watching the slide and post come apart/go together, but it's neat that tools are so easy to change. Probably save at least a few minutes per job, and that's gonna make a difference in productivity. But the best of the whole deal is the outtakes. This is a good channel. Your descriptions and reasoning are sound, and spot on. Thank you!
In a world where health and safety has gone mad, its nice to see someone pour liquid nitrogen into a container without gloves and a thumb over the lip of the tub. In work I have to wear a hard hat before I climb a step ladder. Well Done!
Insurance company’s want to minimise the possibility to get hurt. How dare they
Handling LN2 with no gloves is not as dangerous at it might seem, as long as you do not wear any rings that, Leidenfrost effect will keep you from being burnt if you get some spillage on your hand. Eye protection is absolutely essential though
The out takes made me subscribe. Seeing you mention taking the time out to ponder your approach was gold. I do that and never regret taking the time to think a bit about it. I'm glad to see the value of thinking it through presented. And the machining.
I like the new tool looks very solid and safe.
The video is a great start of my Friday, like always.
Enjoy the rest of your day mate
bloody focking genius. everything we own, we owe to precision machinists and tool and die men. fantastic dog too.
'One thing at a time', the look from Kurtis absolutely f***ing cracked me up big time!!!
I have the Aloris version of that same tool post and can’t live without it. I set it up with the indexing handle inline with the compound so it’s never in the way of the work. I indicate it in with the compound @ 45 degrees or any incriminate of 15 degrees. I never have to loosen the stud nut. These indexable tool posts are such a game changer on a manual lathe and worth every penny
Just love the bloopers at the end
Love your work Kurtis, your machining and down to earth attitude is so refreshing
Wish you all the success you deserve
Thank you Kurtis & Karen I have modified many compounds for these type of holders & loved your machining expertise in this mod, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU!!!
Dorian does make high quality stuff.
And you’ll be happy you cleaned and oiled up the cross slide regardless.
Learning all the features of your new CNC machine will come in handy for making all the spare toolholders you're going to need (and for saving a ton of cash) for your lovely new QCTP.
Congratulations on the toy... I mean tool :D Hopefully it works out for you and exceeds your hopes and expectations. On the bright side of having to take everything apart to install it you got to check for any unusual wear or other damage points before they became an issue.
Yeah was good to give it all a clean up too!
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Yeah, I imagine the fresh lubrication and cleaning would make that part of the lathe move a little more ssmoothly... though I really doubt it would've been used if it weren't running at least "mostly smooth", you're too much of a professional to continue using a machine that doesn't perform at its best while you can "easily" fix it.
Im very sorry for the person who was injured and the grief it caused from the multi-fix tool post. But im greatful for the knowledge. Thanks also for waiting to choose a better tool post….definitely interested in the one you bought👍
Отличная работа! Инженер, токарь, фрезеровщик, сварщик, специалист широчайшего профиля и просто хороший человек.👍👍👍🌏
Translation: Great job! Engineer, turner, miller, welder, specialist of the widest profile and just a good person
Thank you mate what a great comment!
Congratulations on a job well done. There is nothing more enjoyable that making, modifying or redesigning equipment or machines to be able to do excellent quality work. You earned the right to have a "quick change tool post". Your master class series of doing machine shop work is worth an academy award. Keep up the excellent work. I enjoy your show.
Hey there.
Great video.
In my past I machined lots of titanium using 12mm round button inserts.
Over time I found it very helpful to add a couple of drilled dimples in the top of the insert holders to prevent any slippage or movement. You might try the same.
Have a great holiday.
such a satisfying install.
An unboxing for some one other than homeless lol Love it. Is it just me that thinks with all the videos Karen is shooting ,she will be a bloody good machinist soon? Another great video. Cheers
Very interesting , in the past , I mean 20 years ago I used to work as a turner operating a capstone lathe . It had fitting for 4 tools and to Chang heads you moved the post back to a stop that cleared the job spinning in the lathe which turned the tool post to the next tool which let you use the next tool. This was before CNC or computer lathes but it ment much faster machining.
Another great video. Love seeing how the cross slides are put together and appreciated your explanation of your quick change concerns.
Burning question of the day: is there actual Rost Off in the Rost Off bottle?
Watching you is like watching a surgeon at work! Professionalism and it's finest!👍
My 20 odd year old Taiwanese lathe tool post assembly is identical, I see you also tried my initial removal method of the post, before looking underneath!! I see the marks. I also left mine as original so that I could go back. Looks a nice unit, I hope it comes up to spec. Greetings from Tasmania Australia.🔭
Hey mate yeah was a bit of a trick that, my smaller lathe has same style but comes apart a bit differently I don't have to remove the brass acme bolt on that one 🤪
Kurtis, well done, you are a master craftsman! Well done Karen.
Gday Kurtis and Karen, well I never thought I’d see the day you got a qctp, it’s got some awesome features and no way in the same league as a normal wedge or piston type, going to be interesting to see how it holds up, I didn’t realise that a multi fix had weak spots, sounds like there pretty much flat out shit, awesome job mate, have a great weekend, cheers
Hey Matty yeah there's so many styles and brands out there but glad to come across this one it's definitely going to be a great asset to have. Enjoy your weekend too mate 😎👍
this guy as far as engineering and machining goes has to be bordering on genius what a master craftsman cheers Kurtis.
One surprise after another! First CNC, now a QCTP. That was some amazing cutting. I can't imagine a better recommendation than that for that tool post. Kurtis, now you have two new toys. You're going to have to find a second one (after the dryer) for Karen. :-) Thanks for another great video.
Something really satisfying about cleaning well made stuff.Great job.
Thanks for sharing, that looks like a beast of a toolpost!
My old russian lathe has a very similar stud or however you would call it, where the toolpost sits on. It is fixed in a very similar fashion - slight interference fit, drops out from bottom and a small bolt threaded half into the stud and half into the cross slide base. You mentioned that the bolt is for it not dropping out.. but i always thought it's to prevent it from spinning around. With you new stud don't you have a potential chance of the stud rotating around (even if it's an interference fit) if you somehow mess up and take too heavy of a cut or did i miss something?
When i created a new stud for my qctp i just made a semicircle in the stud and used the old hole as a guide to tap a new half-hole and it actually worked out great.
This type of holder uses the black plate with the four bolts in it to keep the holder from turning during a cut. Like Curtis said you could use the dowl pin or the bolts, I myself would use the bolts but torque them down every now and then.
You executed that retrofitting beautifully. And the most astonishing thing - no parts left after dismantling and putting back the tool post compound slide base.
Great episode guys, very informative, liquid nitrogen 2 thou interference fit...coool 🤣
Definately looks the part..cant wait to see in real action next week.
Have a great weekend..regards patchy 🍻🍕🍻🍕
Hey Patchy Karen was glad the liquid nitrogen fit worked out this video without drama 🤣 Enjoy your weekend too mate
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering boy if the nitrogen did not work there would have 3 hours of a blooper real too watch ,, and a lot of beeps and more beeping ,, glad it worked out ,, you tube would have said fix the beeping words lol ,,
we have that exact style tool post but smaller at my work. its been very good to us.
Karen🤦♀️ “Just do one thing at a time that’s all you can manage” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Karen your awesome 😍.
Homeless🤬 feeling left out what no parcel for me but I’m the star of the show👍🏴
Being self taught your knowledge is mind blowingly incredible! Cheers!
I’ve been at this game for 48 yrs here in North America and have never received a good explanation about 1” fine threads. Every chart lists 1 x 12 as NF and 1 x 14 as NS. Yet if you walk into any bolt supply or industrial supply over here and ask for a 1” fine nut or bolt it will be 14 tpi. Any 1” x 12 bolt or nut will be a special order. Nice job on the install. You will be happy with that post. Keep it clean and it will repeat very well.
Fabricating a new tool post? - wise, smart, clever, advisable.
Well said and well done in fine detail..! Thank you very much.! My 12 yr grandson will be here soon to watch almost all your show. Thanks again.
“Almost.” 😁
The DeLorean toolpost does look amazing. A shame it's measured in bananas, but then nothing's perfect.
BTW I know us Ozzies are built tough, but poring liquid nitrogen into a container with bare hands and your thumb inside the container is really pushing your luck.
Keep up the great videos!
I didn’t know DeLorean built tool-posts for lathes?
Well researched purchase Kurtis, a proper toolpost for all of your big lathe tooling and capable operator! Got a kick out of Homie's disappointed expression when the box was opened. I'm sure there is always something to his liking around CEE. Great presentation as always.
P'fect job on a rainy day
Karen does know her sarcasm: (36:10) ""we'll do one thing at a time because that's kind of what you can manage"
Sounds like my youngest daughter
This has become my favorite RUclips channel.. . . . Just finished a tool post upgrade on a friends 30 year old combo lathe/drill press
To be honest, i have been wanting to say something about you being the only machinist that I've seen on yt that doesn't use a quick change but you're so damned fast at manually switchin out your tooling with the shims that I've just sat back impressed as hell
Thank you for sharing . Good work team . I like the way you always leave a way of putting things back to where you started. Wisdom learned the hard way is the best.
good, did mine about 2 years ago, some mods, but still very happy, made 10 quick tool holders, set, and done, no more spacers and shims, well done!
I was the first commentor that asked you about quick change tool posts way back when you had only a couple hundred people.
I just got a quick change for our workshop lathe from Hare and Forbes, it's a QA-140 for a 16mm stud on the compound. It uses 16mm tooling so only a baby compared to your stuff.
Hello from the uK 🇬🇧 you can tell how much you love your job
Got a lot of respect for you great videos 💪
For any tool post, rigidity is a must. That's a solid post you have there so using it will make life a little easier. Used a smaller quick change on oil drill threads on site, desert and jungle locations which really made my day in the 1980's.
Everything that comes in a wooden box is awesome!
Finally!! Something in your shop from Bananaland! And a compliment to boot! Cheers from Southern Indiana! Keep up the good work and videos!
Righto Kurtis, grats on your new equipment! Glad you were able to find something that lives up to your needs. Much love from Bananaland.
You guys have to have the best site on RUclips !!! Honest no bullshit, best machining skills I’ve ever seen for being self taught ever, and I’ve said it before , the video skills absolutely is is the defining factor for your success, love it, and the dog how can you lose! ❤️
As usual, very informative. Very fun to watch a real craftsman.
Admit it! The reason for the video was so you could remember how to put it back together! Nice piece of equipment! Fits your needs and wants well!
For me this is like Christmas present. Great work and video. "As is tradition".
Thank you for your videos! Both of you put a great deal of work - and skill - into this and it shows. I was especially interested in the subject of this video as I have wondered about the merits of changing my lathe tool post from standard to quick change. I am new to lathes and after listening to this I think I will stick with the standard tool post for a while.
Cheers from the currently frigid state of Iowa in the USA!
I thought I heard it raining around 6 minutes in....then Homeless showed me it was raining at 8 minutes...good to see you are getting some Springtime Rain.....Rainy Days are my favorite in the shop.....watching the rain form the open door and hearing it on the roof.......Lovely......Cheers, Paul
Hey Paul it rained almost all week long!
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering great for the aquifer......since you are the 2nd driest continent, I believe, rain is always good....love that new QCTP.....4 side, and stops......I am jealous.....and taking over a !/4 banana depth cut.....wow......great investment.....the part about the ENCO type holder exploding was very informative....thanks for pointing that out....cheers, Paul
I really like the way you guys are always reinvesting in the business. Not going out and blowing money on luxury items.
Wow !! Very impress with this tool I had used in the past here in the states. I am also very impress with you two the video is just awesome, Kurt skill are very high tech. Take care and thank you 😊
"We'll do one thing at a time, because that kind of what you can manage" low key savage! I love it XD
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You work on large items which at first did not interest me, however the way you approach each job, and the precision you work to just amazes me.
I feel like this was a good move. You will be glad you bought it over and over as time goes by.