Machining a Polishing Drive Wheel | Using BIG Lathe Faceplate
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2021
- In this video we are machining a concrete pipe polishing drive wheel. The wheel is oversize and needs the outer diameter machined down. We first set up the wheel in our 4 metre lathe with a 4 jaw chuck but quickly find out the wheel is warped and set up needs to be changed. So we set up our big 950mm (3’ foot) lathe faceplate and hold the wheel in place using toe clamps and a pipe centre in the tail stock. Machining down the OD was very interesting with tool clearance and we had to change it up a few times with different tools to get it completed. In this video we are using our LZMT CW6280D Centre Lathe.
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Sounds like the sort of job where you get it back, with the customer saying it's a bit too big, and can you take a bit more off? I hate jobs where it's got to fit something, and they don't provide that for you to check the fit.
Ho have to do what you have to do if it does the job. Wouldn't it be easier if customers brought also those pads that screw on so you can verify measurements and the fit? Anyway it looks nice, better than it came in!
Worse yet, “can you weld it up and add 1mm to the diameter?
I think the setup was probably the safest possible. The thing looks really scary. The intermittent cut didn't help too much either.
It is probably so that the attached stones will wear in and take care of the runout.
Seems like You didn't have too much trouble with chatter. Those things tend to ring like a church bell. With the 4-jaw chuck You might have ran into that problem as there was no support for the rim.
Glad that it went without any mishaps.
An interesting way to go about it with the faceplate, but it makes sense.
"They have purchased a new whatever they are - from someone else".🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....(classic)🤣👍🏻.
no one better complain about lack of information on our videos! 🤣🤣🤣
I would happily buy the shirt if that quote was on there, it translates to the non sense I deal with in the auto/offroad industry perfectly
😂😂😂😂😂
@@CuttingEdgeEngineeringthat was a perfectly executed explanation
The way you said don't bring dirty shit 😂😂😂😂
I say that if the customer wants to pay shop time to clean it, we will clean it.
@@tracylemme1375 EXACTLY we used 2 charge extra at mechanics shop when car hoarders showed up. Like the nastiest piles of food wrappers and paperwork and anything u can imagine STUFFED in that car and it'd be a wiring issue under the dash. We straight up told a lady one time either you clean this out or take it somewhere else. Ive seen pools of dried blood. ALSO IF YOU HAVE A LOADED GUN UNDER YOUR SEAT FUCKING TELL ME! I swear multiple times id go to move seat forward only to grab a loaded pistol. Ppl are idiots
@@captaintoyota3171 only in Murica!🤣🤣
@@captaintoyota3171 unload pistol and put the rounds into a bag. Safer for everyone, when separated.
@@captaintoyota3171 Yeah, I've stuck my head up under a dash and got a face-full of cockroaches :(
Something tells me that your quality of workmanship is light years above what they needed or expected! Amazing job, well done sir!
Never known that Curtis speaks multi languages, the language in the outtakes are quite different from what we hear, nice job Karen 😂
The cleaning costs twice as much as the machining, easy fix. Setting up takes longer with jobs like this. I can appreciate that you don’t want concrete dust all over the lathe, neither would I. Stay safe, greetings to all from Tasmania. 👍😁🐕 Amazing what two people and a four legged shop boss manage to produce each week. Really enjoy this channel, this has to be in the top three engineering/machining shops on RUclips. All machining, no crap music, no hours of repeated statements or trying to sound like a teacher training the dumb, you get the picture. So many channels are spoilt by all the crap video intro's, endless repeated commentry etc.
Just what I wanted to say.
Bad grammar and tenses? What is you talked about?
@@jacobdegeling ?!
@@brianfeddersen3528 the op changed his comment, originally he mentioned bad grammar and tenses, hence my comment making light of this statement
@@brianfeddersen3528 It was a reference to other channels I see so much of, and it would take too long to explain and not really worth it. So to save any further commets, I deleted that bit from my comments. No offence intended.
Who the hell dislikes these vids? They're honest, funny and if you read the comments there's a shitload of fans who know their onions.
Keep it up Giggler.
His Competition...
He's good enough to be able to both run a machine shop AND a You Tube channel at the same time and the competition isn't...
The competition is afraid that if enough people in various industries sees his video's, they'll realize just how good Kurtis is and only use his shop for their Machining Needs and that'll put the competition out of business...
Thank you for translating the Video for arabic language ♥️
I couldn't wait for the out takes just to hear your reaction to how out of whack that thing was once you out it in the lathe. And you didn't disappoint!!
8:12 I love how you become personally offended when things are out of whack! Loving the content as always mate. Geez this channel has blown up too! Well done Kurtis. Dan in Newy.
run out you can see lol.
Great to see 'Homeless' draping his 'saddle bags' across your boot ! Probably just to keep them off the cold floor ?
28:12
I reckon, for a small dog he has a massive set of beads haha
I am a hobbyist, "Maker" fabricator and have a couple of very small lathes. Watching you work, I have learned quite a bit about setup, quality, and just general good machining. It's an absolute pleasure to watch your work. Thanks for bringing us along.
“That’s not a faceplate … THIS is a faceplate” - said in the best possible Crocodile Dundee voice possible
How to spot the non-aussie 101:
Anyone who does not refer to the man as Paul Hogan
⬆️ nah, needs salt.
Everyone knows it’s called a ‘ Foooice- plooiiiiite’ mate,you should know this by now!🤣🤣🤣
I'm going to go touch it crikey it's angry
Someone is flexing... where's the other big face plate?
No bullshit, just machining. Love these videos.
Easy to see how your channel has grown so fast.
Hey mate thanks for the great comment. We wanted it to be about real life from a real Aussie workshop 😎👍
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering You can't be any more Aussie than you Mate
Normally, if you are retired you don't really have any particular love for Fridays, but Kurtis, Karen and Homie changed all that! Now it's cocktails, snacks and metal shavings on Friday evening!
Starting with the best worst axis. Yet another case of a part leaving the shop better than it left the factory. Much respect sir.
Thanks 👍
"Don't bring dirty shit to me" i totally agree with you mate 👌
Right on 😎👊💥
Charged accordingly I'm sure!
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering all that cement dust & other crap is gonna wear out the lathe bed
That’s a good one for a tshirt
I'll never forget the uncleaned cat food can filling machine which arrived in the shop when I was an apprentice.
Worst. Rebuild. Job. Ever.
It was like a cat shat in every corner of the shop. Including the yard and driveway. Most of the tradesmen refused to work on it, which left us apprentices to do the strip and rebuild.
Hell yes finally what a wonderful way to start Friday, great job guys, homeless is awesome
Cheers mate have a good friday
The humour comes out in spades on a job like this, “what’s it called, looks” like a wheel, we’ll call it a wheel.” A very watchable video.
It's definitely an example of turning a sow's ear into a silk purse. I applaud your intolerance of low tolerance.
Other Machine shops "This is a faceplate".
Cutting Edge engineering "That's not a faceplate. This is a faceplate"
I work for a major tire manufacturer and the machine shop has a 42” faceplate that is used to bolt up similar looking drums that they machined in this video.
Surprised they didn't get you to manufacture a new one!
Exactly what I was going to say.
Cheaper to trim this down. Making a new one would be MUCH more expensive and take longer...
Concrete tolerance is measured in inches (US), not mills. Tolerance provided in machining far exceeded what the end user needed for this device. I deal with various tolerances that conflict with building trades in US. The best way to deal with conflicting tolerances is communicating.
@@doughahn1355 CCE is Australian not US so they use Metric not Imperial and that plate is used for concrete pipe where tolerances are much tighter so the gaskets between segments can form a proper seal...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan "CEE" (CUTTING EDGE ENGINEERING ) but we all know what yah ment
The look on your face Kurtis ‘They’re not too worried about the splined hub being out of whack’ 🤦♂️
Everyone needs a Homeless in their life, he's just so sweet and loving.
I have one in my life, but my guy's name is Oliver. Woof.
Hello Kurtis & Karen,
When first saw the "Wheel" and you said what you had to do I thought "Silk purse, sows ear"... but you did a great job... See you next week but in the meantime have a good weekend.
Take care.
Paul,,
Hey Paul hope you've had a good week mate. Yeah despite the dramas turned out alright and always happy to get jobs out the door and customer happy. Cheers 😎👍
“Polish a turd” I believe the saying is.
@@mattbolton8230
Takes a whole bunch of turtle wax. But you still can't pick it up by the clean end.
I freaking love your honest comments! That made my day! Keep going, stay safe! Greetings from Germany!! :-)
Hey Henrik thanks for watching from over there mate
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Its some sort of holiday in the office here in Hamburg :-) Looking forward for the following videos!
Welding the angle iron to the spokes sure didn't help make the thing run true. However, you probably greatly helped with how the thing performs since the O.D. is now running true to the shaft. The shoes/plates/polishing thingies are going to get better contact and do the job quicker.
Would you let us know how the customer liked it?
I think what you did is absolutely brilliant!
Umm, No. The mounting axis misalignment was totally ignored so it will function just as before.
@@deconteesawyer5758 True, although depending on how rigid the pipe-polishing machine is, it might center itself using the ring rather than the drive axis, making it a non-issue.
If it is centered on the axis, one side of the polisher is gonna wear out a lot faster than the others...
@@Khrrck based on the 12MM runout it definitely would be self-centering 😀
Pi8
No. True to the shaft would have meant to use the 4-yaw and then cut away the run out. That would have made it narrower and to get the diameter square to the axis would have changed the diameter to a point where it would no longer touch the ID of whatever should be „polished“. The whobble might even help to function like a hone.
Hey man I totally understand shit needing to be clean. I'm a crane operator and have worked places that want it clean and it so nice to work on them and the guys coming to inspect every year loved our equipment as it wasn't greasy or muddy and took half the time to do a better job then most people would get. Then I've worked places that think cleaning is a waste of money until it needs an 8 hour steam wash before a shop will touch it. I'll always spend any extra time making sure it's clean and well maintained and be proud of what I run.
That's the biggest faceplate I've ever seen!! You do amazing work Curtis, even with some less than ideal pieces that are brought to you. Awesome
Hello CEEA! Kurtis, I enjoy your channel greatly. You never cease to amaze me. That wheel really had a lot of run out and you figured it out! You always find a way to attack a challenging project. You are a real professional machinist. I had some tech school machining training but never pursued the field. I'm a gearhead and still play around with the automotive field and metal fabrication using my machining skills. Watching you really refreshes and updates my machinist's skills. Thank you for sharing with all your viewers! Oh, and I love that pup I have three myself! Also love your outtakes, you crack me up Mate! Have a great day down under! :) :) JP JR. Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania, USA.
I look forward to your videos all week. I'm not a machinist, but greately appreciately the work you turn out. Also the videography work has gotten fantastic, and still gets better every week - shout out to you, your sheila, and the safety pup!
Thanks again Kurtis and by-the-way ... compliments to the lady working the camera, well done! 👍😊
Thank you!
I was a little lost when the boring bar got brought out, but it made sense to finish the piece while it was in the fixture. Great job y’all, on the piece and the video. My Friday is complete.
Love it when a customer says just do it...!! Doesn’t matter what the project is , JUST DO IT.
As always Curt you will 👍🏼
Love it when a customer says just do it...!! Doesn’t matter what the project is , JUST DO IT.
As always Curt you will
You got that right!
Always enjoy watching quality workmanship, thanks Karol .
it's really nice to see how much Homeless/The SO loves you two!
edit: awesome lathe videoing especially the slo-mo - Top Notch.
Good thing you're in Australia, cause I need this to watch this at 3am on a Friday.
Good morning mate enjoy the vid
same here
Some things can't be manufactured, they just come together naturally. The serendipitous collation of the man, his know how and will, his self-deprecating sense of humour, his shop, his wife, her giggle and her camera artistry... and then for the cherry on top you put in this amazing friendly little ball of muscle in the form of a dog... and that's the formula for a magical popularity accruing half a million views and a quarter million subscribers. Nice.
An amazing how to lesson in how to do a great job on a warped part. Reputation maintained and proved.
I completely understand the frustration with the dirty parts. Having said that, this did come from a concrete company of some kind. Have you ever looked at any concrete companies tools and equipment? It’s usually covered in dry concrete. So to the owners the piece may have been clean!
great job cameralady perfect angles in proper time ... great job as usual 👏 thanks a lot
I guess they warped it when they welded the angle iron on it.
💯💯💯
They probably bent the crap out of it then welded on the angle trying to beef it up a bit.
That makes a lot of sense. Could that warping have been prevented while welding?
@@LesNewell That repair is so ugly! Why not put bracing on the inside? They could tie the braces into the hub and rim....like it should have been done from the factory.
@@Uli_Krosse They should have straightened it before welding on the braces. Maybe they did and this is their idea of straight!
Thanks for the video. It helps me stay in touch with the real world since retirement. Keep a good thought.
Like your prep , set up work, what I learned, "Look around to what I have for set up to do the job, not what I need to buy, "MACHINIST",....................Or just make.
yeah some of the best shop made tools are when you just got to make it work!
Another job well done! Thank you for this entertainment and education all in one, week after week. You guys are starting to feel like extended family at this point!
Also congrats on nearly 175k subscribers!
Thank you mate! Appreciate the support you have given our channel 😎👍
You have a really impressive facility and machining/welding capabilities, especially at such a young age working alone. Love the videos. You always have a fascinating project going on.
Thanks mate!
Great video. Excellent work. The ability to overcome any obstacles. Great machinist. Thank you for sharing.
It’s to the customers advantage that you are informed as to what the part is and how it operates so you can make informed decisions on your process. I look you gave when you said they are not concerned with the out of wack spline was priceless.
My internet is really bad and limited and slow. These videos are some of the only ones I will let youtube load and wait for at 1080p. Thanks!
Thank you for that support glad you can enjoy them in good quality viewing 😎👍👍👍
Crap day, feeling bleh.
Order pizza and sit down to the latest CEE vid. Suddenly feeling better.
Need to be able to press the Like button more than once
multiple logins?
Glad you could enjoy the vid mate have a better week ahead 😎👍
You have such an interesting job! If I were 40 years younger, I would be learning that trade! At least here I learn quite a few things. Thank you for sharing!
The slow motion shots are great to fully appreciate the impact of the metal cutting!👍🏻
Great vid as always - thanks.
I vote for two Fridays per week :-) (not being ungrateful, but I need more to feed my Cutting Edge habit (and to see Homeless of course)).
Hey mate! We've got some bonus vids in the works 😎👍
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Thanks - can't wait
You guys seem to make great content each week no matter how out of whack the work is. You do a very nice job showing the work, the issues and a very efficient way to get around those issues. It's been thirty years since I watched a lathe faceplate turning that slow on the job. It just wouldn't be the same without the safety officer running around!
Kurtis me lad you never cease to amaze me Keep up the beautiful work and videos
Larry
Hey Larry thanks mate appreciate it 😎👍
Another great video thanks to your wife. Well you did your part, LoL . Love your dog. Lost my boxer Kujo a few months ago. George from Indiana- USA
THANKS
Customer drops off piece of crap.
Instructions " little off the top "
Kurtis you left with putting a shine on crap.
You got some good quality inserts to hold up that interrupting cuts.
Australia engineering at its finest Mate.🦘🇭🇲💯👍
Cheers mate! Was happy with how it turned out in the end. Was using Palbit inserts they go well considering the price 😎👊💥
It might look crap to outsiders but I’m sure the owner did not consider it so.
Awesome. Making my Fridays.
😎👊💥 awesome
Man and machine in perfect harmony. Awesome!
Funny! the videos are much better when you watch them while sipping coffee out of a Cutting Edge Engineering mug. Thanks for the Merch!
Nice one! Great way to enjoy the vid 😎👍
Love watching the Machining process is so satisfying watching it from start to finish
Thanks for watching
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering also love the vids
Looks like a wheel, walks like a wheel, yeah, lets call it a wheel. Awesome setup. Civil engineer by training and experience and just love the way you apply absolutely practical methodologies to complete every job in the shop. Loved the super slo-mo where you switched to a harder insert cutting at the pre-drilled holes around the circumference of the wheel. Really illustrated the brutal impacts of an intermittent cut.
Thanks again for the always great content!
I loved seeing the reaction of a "precision engineer" meeting a non-precision part. I hope he didn't take those grumbles home that night. :-)
Your attention to details and level of knowledge is exceptional.
Not a machinist, but can appreciate your the work you do.
Pleasure to see a pro work. And tackle extream issues, resolve them.
Great to watch,as ever .Thanks for posting .
I am a German technician and I love your videos. Please produce more great and interesting content. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Thanks mate will do!
This channel is an inspiration for me to work hard as an apprentice 💪👍
Awesome mate keep at it 😎👊💥
Always enjoy your jobs, and the scale of machinery that you work with/ on. Then I go out and make something on my little 6” Atlas lathe.....
Good work, Kurtis.
Slo-mo's and outtakes were excellent! Great video. Thanks.
Great work mate and great videos. I'm no machinist but I'm learning a lot from your channel. Keep it up!
Hey mate thanks for watching!
Karen we need a supercut of nods !! At least an hour
Enjoyable as always 👍
😂 will put something together in the outtakes compilation 😁
Amazing what we can do these days! Well done
Tusen takk for god underholdning. 👍🤗👍🇸🇯
nice job and the video(editing) is, as always, amazing.
Thank you!
Sand Blaster looks like its on the cards for " tools I need Darling " :)
Just as long as you have a super sized air compressor and air drier.
@@markfryer9880 Please don't scare the bride ! That comes later :)
A wet blaster for use with a pressure washer does wonders on things like this.
@@davidsellars4327 tell me more, sounds like something I could use in the driveway on my truck frame and not piss the neighbors off too bad😂
@@pgids5886 Years ago, I used a regular sandblaster. Dusty, sweaty work and if there was any grease, the sand just stuck to it. Then I bought a wet blasting nozzle for my pressure washer. Changed everything. Just remember to put on a regular nozzle when you're done and wash everything down. Otherwise there will be grit left on the work that will rust. Once it's washed down, there will be very little rust. Good luck.
Good job well done. And nice to see the safety officer. He’s such a happy little fella
Its fun to watch your old bideos aand see how much more comfortable you have become with the camera. (0.2%)
Hello Kurtis, another very good movie. I am impressed with your craftsmanship. Say hello to your lovely Lady :-). Greetings from Poland and waiting for more ;-)
Hey mate thanks for watching over there awesome to know where in the world our viewers are 😎👍
"Don't bring dirty shit to me"
Mate,
Ya gotta buy the Giggler a pressure washer....🤣
She doesn't agree with this comment 😂
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Get a pink one... " for your birthday "
@@ChrisR2517 for "her" birthday.
@@Dreamer3K
I meant He is saying "it's for your Birthday"
@@ChrisR2517 my mistake. sorry
Stuck working from home on the computer but watching your videos for vicarious pleasure from doing useful practical work. Thanks for a entertainment!!!!
Curtis is the realist person ive ever seen on youtube in a long time, he doesnt sugarcoat words fantastic
Love your work, but the dog is the star of the show!
He knows it 😏🐶
Customer: what's this extra charge?
Kurtis: don't bring dirty shit aka the dirty shit charge
😂😂
And once again, what appears at first glance to be an easy job, turns into something much more difficult. Been there, done that. Well done!
Interestig job quite a challenge trying to figure out the best way. Enjoyed, cheers mate!
The scale of your projects makes even the most mundane operations fascinating. Cheers.
Great video mate, your missus does a great job on the cam, she's a hard worka too:)
Recently I was talking with a fellow wood turner about my massive 10 inch diameter faceplate. I am totally humbled by the faceplate you used in this video. It's almost like Paul Hogan's movie where a New York kid pulled a knife on him, and he reached behind and pulled out his huge Bowie knife.
Heh... "That's not a faceplate. THIS is a faceplate!"
Perfekt wie immer, tolles Video
That's one of those where when they come to get it. They pay for it. You really have no idea if it will work. You did what they asked. Good job.
Dear Karen and Kurtis, thank you for my weekly moment of zen meditation.
Welcome mate thanks for watching
Well that was a great example of something warped - the amount of runout was crazy! Nice job of bringing something back to serviceable again. Cheers mate.
Just love watching these videos from Nova Scotia Canada. Usually a couple/ day, Karen great on video and homey is a gem.
Great to see that big lathe of your up and running. It’s an absolute monster compared to my Colchester mate. Good job on the repair work. Cheers 🍻. Aaron
Hey Aaron! This isn't the big lathe that we videod unloading this is the smaller one of that 😂 we going to sell it if you interested? 🤣
Let's just say this, Engineering rate $250.00ph Cleaning rate $900.00ph see how quick they clean their shit.
Exactly....i gotta clean it?...your gonna pay for it!!! No exceptions!!!
@@be007 true...very true...but anyone who uses a tool like this...knows it needs to be at least half ass cleaned...its common courtesy...in this type of trade
Probably Bogans
They would still send it, it's a maintenance write off and they may not have the time equipment or manpower to clean it. In manufacturing, you must keep focused on keeping the equipment running or you may have 50 or more people getting paid to sweep the floor at a loss, not to mention, getting behind delivery schedules and raw materials backing up causing bottlenecks in production. Shipping issues, you may have 5 trucks a day contracted to ship your goods and if you cancel them due to being down, you may have to pay for them anyway. So if Kurtis charged for cleaning they would probably pay it.
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@Foster Lewis Keith Fenner's sign in his shop: SHOP LABOR RATE - iT'S NOT THE COST OF REPAIR. IT'S THE COST OF THE DAMAGE YOU CAUSED.
Beautiful finished product. .
Hello from Spain. I just wanted to tell you that your videos are great, very educational and interesting and very well edited. Thank you very much for your effort.
They probably think they cleaned it, by their standards. I've seen their version of cleaned up gear in person a bit than machine shop levels :). Greetings from the NJ Bayshore
Yeah youre right that's clean in conreter standards 😂👍
Customer: just take 2.5mm off the outer diameter
Kurtis a few moments later: its not even funny anymore
that means 1.25mm off the radius, right?
@@interesting7906 yup, 2.5 off the diameter means 1.25 off the radius.
Alot of people(non-machinist) don't understand what it takes to just take off 2.5mm, I do durability testing for one of the big three here in the states which requires machining, fixture buillding.....we have engineers that don't understand why things take time.
.GOD BLESS!!
@@michaelguinn5736 same goes for alot of trades. For instance I'm a welder, any idea how many times I've heard "just need it welded"🤦♂️
@@interesting7906 your damn radius thing is as hard to understand as the imperial system
Watching that hideous chunk of berlin wall get machined to a beautiful flywheel was VERY satisfying!
I'am inpressed, I have nerly 60 years of experience and you inpress me!!😊