Oberheim OB-X8 vs Arturia OP-Xa Software! | Blindfold Test!

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  • @DurararaX2
    @DurararaX2 Год назад +16

    I was lucky to get to play the new OB-X8 at Synthplex 2022 last week, it was amazing! Definitely a 'main synth' for any worthwhile project studio. Tom Oberheim was there, he is awesome, very patient with his legion of fans too. Thanks for posting.

    • @DurararaX2
      @DurararaX2 Год назад +3

      BTW, you can really hear the diff between soft & real synths when you are performing thru a concert PA. Especially if it's a good PA.

  • @david_davinci
    @david_davinci Год назад +23

    Nice one! I am so impressed with the V collection. I bought the CS80 V and it blows my mind.

    • @Tommass79
      @Tommass79 Год назад

      Love this too and the most of the collection but the CPU load on it is a bit brutal l need to decide carefully on bigger sessions.

    • @bengsynthmusic
      @bengsynthmusic 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Tommass79
      Have you guys updated?

  • @KacyDennis
    @KacyDennis Год назад +8

    Thanks for putting this together guys. It was lots of fun to watch.

  • @advredenbregt4340
    @advredenbregt4340 Год назад +15

    Arturia has done a great job, but especially on the Rush Res the difference was like night and day. Digital resonance filters are not up to the task.

  • @drsamurai009
    @drsamurai009 Год назад +6

    Doing my own blind test, I only incorrectly guessed the Low Strings, the aftertouch confused me and I flip-flopped a couple times before settling wrong, LOL. Though I was 4 out of 5 here, and 5 out of 5 on your Prophet 5 rev 4 vs. Arturia blind comparison you guys did a little while back, I've owned both 80's synths since the mid 80's and the Arturia products really stand up well. I've dialed in my Prophet 5 rev 3 sounds on the Arturia close as dammit spot on, and similar to the OB for sounds. Oddly to my ears, I had to tweak the Rush Rez sound in the Arturia soft synth, and the this new X8 sounds closer to the Arturia than the original OB synth, but that could just be the aged components of nearly over 40 years plus. In the end if I had to live only with the Arturia, I would be more than happy with the sounds. The experience and ease of editing on a hardware machine though is way better than a mouse with a computer.

    • @MFASonic
      @MFASonic Год назад +2

      Yes, I made exactly the same wrong guess. I'm still very happy having bought the OB-X8, for various reasons. Probably the biggest difference is that it always sounds good, and doesn't need tweaking all the time to sound "oh that's soo close" :)

  • @TerryBorderline
    @TerryBorderline 11 месяцев назад +1

    Its funny watching people make comparisons between the two leaning their biases toward the OB-X8 despite the fact that they weren't blind tested like the folks in the video. Blind-testing makes a HUGE difference and forces you to put your biases aside. Thats what I liked about this video, there was no bias, just pure blind-testing. I can't take the comment section too serious when I know everyone knew what was playing, when it was playing without being blinded. The biases become strong.

  • @ErikHawk
    @ErikHawk Год назад +7

    That was awesome! Thanks for doing this guys. Yeah, Arturia did great. The real OB-X8 sounds amazing, of course, but there's a place and budget for the software too. Obviously the best time ever to be a music producer!

  • @klstay
    @klstay Год назад +1

    Yet again a comparison actually showing how important good dynamics and EQ setup is (and how it can "level" out any small differences) while both recording and mixing. At the very least on the monitor loop while recording.

  • @briann5001
    @briann5001 Год назад +2

    The third one… Arturo’s sounds Amazing!

  • @TheBigtrev1234
    @TheBigtrev1234 Год назад +4

    The great thing about the Arturia V collection is that it comes with most of their midi controllers! Always great to get a new video from you all!

  • @Geepstar
    @Geepstar Год назад +2

    You just made me xtra happy with my V-collection (3 versions :-))

  • @AudioLemon
    @AudioLemon Год назад +4

    Honestly I did it blind on my phone and I got them all. Are these guys synth guys. The real one is much more meaty and had more of a full organ vibe. It's close but no cigar. People say you wouldn't hear it in a mix bit you would. The mix would need less work to make it sound full meaning you could have a cleaner mix, simpler and less fussy. It would just sit better and be lovely and do lovely thick lush pads but also be able to rip the speakers apart when it needed to. There's a reason it's a classic.

  • @carbonvibes
    @carbonvibes Год назад +1

    Great video Jeff and Falcon 🙌🏻

  • @digilifepro
    @digilifepro Год назад +5

    Great test! I'd like to hear patch comparisons for presets that specifically highlight random pitch detuning used to create "beat frequencies" and alias modulation over time. Wonder if the finite digital world would be noticeable different than the infinite analog environment.
    Cheers

  • @enygma3d
    @enygma3d Год назад +4

    I found while both sounded very nice, the Arturia became easy to pick out as I found it had a bit of a harshness in the higher frequencies, while the OB-X8 was so buttery smooth. I feel that if I'm mixing with the Arturia plugin, I'd likely need to do a bit of surgical EQing (or Soothe2) in the upper frequencies whereas I feel I could just get away with a high shelf EQ on the OB-X8 if I want to bring out some of those higher frequencies a bit. I have the Synth V collection with OP-Xa, but I feel I'll still be saving up for the OB-X8. At least I know I've got something pretty solid to play with until then!

    • @raymondjones4390
      @raymondjones4390 10 месяцев назад

      Yep you can do a lot with EQ. What I do sometimes is run my laptop with the virtual instrument through vacuum tubes and it makes a world of difference especially smoothing out the high frequencies. In fact I run my main work station through vacuum tubes to just listen to streaming music. It helps a ton to help warm it up - note I do NOT mix with vacuum tubes in the chain.

  • @OgamiItto70
    @OgamiItto70 Год назад +9

    The Arturia version often had a greater and more detailed stereo spread. I think that's what was fooling the ears of our auditors. I actually preferred the sound of the Arturia version on many of these patches. That "Rush Resonance" one was definitely better on the OB-X8, though, to my ear. (Through _these_ headphones on _this_ computer.)
    Nice comparo.

  • @SPAZZOID100
    @SPAZZOID100 Год назад +8

    Sure they can sound very similar, but the overall experience is much more visceral & tactile with the actual instrument than a facsimile of it. And NOTHING can ever change that.

    • @annother3350
      @annother3350 Год назад +12

      Tactile Shmactile. Visceral Shmisceral.

    • @SPAZZOID100
      @SPAZZOID100 Год назад

      @@annother3350 ?????

    • @davemaverick8438
      @davemaverick8438 Год назад +4

      sure 5000$ will help with your "tactile" needs LOL

    • @SPAZZOID100
      @SPAZZOID100 Год назад

      @@davemaverick8438 I stand by what i said.

    • @davemaverick8438
      @davemaverick8438 Год назад +2

      @@SPAZZOID100 not judging its human nature... audiophiles also feel difference by using 2000$ cables vs 20$

  • @sebgoutttt4165
    @sebgoutttt4165 11 месяцев назад

    I must say, i listen to the test in a proper studio. My ears aren't that trained, and still, each time OBX was playing the difference was huge, at the first second. Also, no matter whether it was played first or second, i could still guess easily from the first when it was weak, lacking frequencies, and when it was full, and simply beautiful.
    Just got myself an OBX8, thanks to that video.
    Well done guys this was very helpful8
    Séb

  • @Cap10NRGMusic
    @Cap10NRGMusic Год назад +1

    Very cool demo / test!! Thanks gusy!!

  • @dalecutlemusic586
    @dalecutlemusic586 Год назад +7

    I am really impressed with OB-Xtreme by Alyjames lab. A lot cheaper and sounds amazing. I also own an OB6. I didnt wanna fork over the big bucks for an OBx8 so bought this plug in and really love it.

    • @neonether
      @neonether Год назад +4

      The AJ Lab sounds SICKKKK. Sounds way closer to playing on an analog machine in my opinion. If they could just get the CPU hunger in order it would be insane.

  • @JiveTalker78
    @JiveTalker78 Год назад +5

    I knew the Arturia OB-Xa was pretty good but damn it really held it's own here.

  • @matt_ling
    @matt_ling Год назад +1

    Got 5/5 here (blind test -- listened but didn't watch) but I did listen on headphones. For the first patch, the modulation is smoother on the OB-X8 (you can hear the Arturia doing some wonky stuff). For all of the patches, the Arturia's release on its envelopes isn't as clean or smooth. For all of the pads, I think the OB-X8 is very clearly more subtle and expressive while the Arturia sounds more static and blaring. And the fifth patch was super obvious, it's almost like there was some clipping on the initial resonance squelch for the Arturia.
    But I'm guessing they are pretty close to most people's ears and once you add some effects, no one might be able to tell the difference!

  • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
    @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 10 месяцев назад +2

    As an update to this video, Can you do a side by side comparison of the new GForce OB-X VST officially endorsed by Oberheim vs the OB-X8 keyboard? I think that is the comparison a lot of people are waiting to see. Ideally, matching the best of the OB-X8 presets, many of which came from the OB-X, Xa & 8.

  • @thaexception3406
    @thaexception3406 Год назад +1

    Good advisor right there

  • @jesuslovestoastyaya
    @jesuslovestoastyaya Год назад +9

    Not even a close contest. Ob-X8 sounds incredibly lush and 3d, it’s just perfect. Arturia is pretty good too though.

    • @vaiman7777
      @vaiman7777 Год назад +5

      So how did they get them wrong? Should have been night/day to them in the room...

    • @jesuslovestoastyaya
      @jesuslovestoastyaya Год назад +5

      @@vaiman7777 I think biggest thing for me was each voice in arturia’s sounded pretty much identical, it didn’t have the subtle variations you get from VCO/VCF etc , this was most apparent on the Rush patch.
      I also think they got the stereo spread settings and filter cutoff settings wrong on some of the patches but that could probably be changed with programming

    • @NamelessSmile
      @NamelessSmile Год назад +4

      it is quite a close contest lol what are you on about

    • @vaiman7777
      @vaiman7777 Год назад +3

      @@jesuslovestoastyaya I picked the X8 mostly, but it was mostly really fine margins. I'd certainly not refuse an X8 as it's beautiful, but software is too close these days. I've said it before, I doubt many would take this similar test and wager $1000 on it :)

    • @jesuslovestoastyaya
      @jesuslovestoastyaya Год назад +3

      @@NamelessSmile listen to the Rush or French horns patch. Completely different . Arturia is great but this isn’t 100% like U-He Repro is to a Prophet 5. That’s a vst that sounds identical.

  • @shane864
    @shane864 Год назад +7

    The difference is in when you're actually playing them. Nobody has NEEDED an analog synth over a VST since like 2008. AB comparisons are always pointless. The vibes and inspiration you get using hardware vs a MIDI controller on a screen are light years apart. I regularly tell people just to get a System 8 because it sounds basically the same as the real Jupiter 8, but am I ever selling my JP8? Hell no. Do I have the V collection and did I still buy an OBX8? Hell yes.

    • @kadiummusic
      @kadiummusic 8 месяцев назад

      If you ever do sell your Jupiter drop me a line! Worst decision I ever made, got sucked into the FM dream, sold it for £800 and bought a DX7 and a JX-8P. Big mistake! ☹️

    • @harveyspecter1653
      @harveyspecter1653 6 месяцев назад

      You're a real gearslut. Just like me. I have over 14 hardware synths over here, mostly collecting dust. Because soft synths are so damn good and they are instant recall. I do use some hardwares though. But I just can't get to sell the ones I rarely use. Addictions 😀

  • @midinotes
    @midinotes Год назад +17

    Seriously, in a mix you would never know the difference - especially with a bit of patch tweaking. Fair enough if you need the OB sound on stage with instant hands-on, no laptops and the feel of a dedicated keyboard. However I'm very happy with my Arturia V collection and definitely wouldn't be adding the OBX to the studio just to get that sound.

    • @NetworkPorter
      @NetworkPorter Год назад +2

      BT has done a lot in the box on stage, leaving the analogs at home.
      I almost bought the new OBX, but so so glad I didn't. Between Omnisphere and MODX+ and maybe the OP-Xa, it's all good.

    • @midinotes
      @midinotes Год назад

      @@NetworkPorter I don't play on stage but between Diva, Arturia V collection and Native Instruments Komplete I could probably get close to most of the sounds I need for covers and replicating classic keys.

  • @alvintoro
    @alvintoro Год назад +30

    Next time troll everyone by doing a blind camera test as well, Have us lock in our choices in the comments section of the video and reveal the answers a week later at the beginning of the your next video.

    • @_mickmccarthy
      @_mickmccarthy Год назад +1

      Or, release a video next week saying that in fact, the patches were actually switched around in this video. That the hardware sounds were actually software and vice-versa.

    • @entropybentwhistle
      @entropybentwhistle Год назад +4

      But then everyone suddenly couldn’t be an expert and sit there having a smug.

    • @TerryBorderline
      @TerryBorderline 11 месяцев назад

      YES! THIS! THIS!

  • @AzhiDahakaNishoba
    @AzhiDahakaNishoba Год назад +7

    Not sure if its volumes or "stereo image"....but the real one always sounds "wider" hard to describe

    • @mihaiad86
      @mihaiad86 Год назад +4

      It's the dynamics, i've watched all of the videos and it's not about the volume. The digital software it's near, but the difference it's audible if not mixed in a song.

    • @lotdproduction
      @lotdproduction Год назад

      Agreed.

    • @harveyspecter1653
      @harveyspecter1653 6 месяцев назад

      Not always but mostly indeed. I am not an engineer but I assume this is because the electronics on the left/right audiopaths are not identical; The hardware also has real analogue voices not being identical whith is what makes it sound more alive. There are some good soft synths though that simulate that behavior. But a couple of 100 bucks you get the entire Arturia collection whereas 1 OB8 costs over 5k. Easy choice.

  • @INeedsMoneys
    @INeedsMoneys Год назад +2

    Big difference on headphones, i guess they didn't have a nice Stereo Setup for the listening (horns patches I'm talking about) crazy how they got them wrong. Easiest patches tbh.

  • @seanchristophersynthesizer6999
    @seanchristophersynthesizer6999 Год назад +19

    I have both of these, and unequivocally, the OB-X8 sounds much better to my ears. No offense to Arturia, though, as they make great stuff. :)

    • @vaiman7777
      @vaiman7777 Год назад +5

      Not in this video though. Way too close, I picked the same as Falcon, but I'd never say either was 'better'. I just picked 1 I liked, a few tweaks and I could get the other the same though.

    • @_mickmccarthy
      @_mickmccarthy Год назад +10

      @@vaiman7777 Yeah, these videos are full of people saying "yeah I can clearly tell the difference" when in reality they'd likely just be the same as the folks on the sofa here who are struggling. While it can be easy to say there is a difference, I'd bet the vast, vast majority of people would not be able to reliably pick out the OB-X8.
      And of course, identifying which was used in a mix will be next to impossible.

    • @vaiman7777
      @vaiman7777 Год назад +6

      @@_mickmccarthy Yeah true. I doubt anyone would wager $2000 on this test. YT comment guys would though. In it's defence, I do think the X8 would slaughter it in normal patch creation and fun value. But A/B on default patches no. I have original Juno's and a Jupiter X, and I can't tell the difference tbh. But I certainly rather play the Juno all day. Being happy with your purchase is one thing, and the most important to me... but pretending there's a massive difference in sound when bounced down to audio or a YT video is just crazy talk and your wallet speaking.

    • @_mickmccarthy
      @_mickmccarthy Год назад +1

      @@vaiman7777 Oh absolutely, in terms of hands-on control there's no contest. I've got Arturia's Keylab and even with its integration with the V-Collection and Analog Lab, there's no substitute for using a physical synth.
      I've come to a happy (for me) compromise of picking up a little JX-08 Boutique which offers a ton of physical controls that I can map to the virtual synths I use and cover most of the functionality. I know a lot of people despise them, but honestly the controls are certainly big enough to offer granular control (also great to be able to stick it in a backpack with a laptop and have a fully portable 'studio')
      If we were talking about an old second hand cheap subtractive synth I'd absolutely be on the side of choosing the hardware, but for £5k, boy that's a tougher sell!

    • @vaiman7777
      @vaiman7777 Год назад +2

      @@_mickmccarthy Yeah, I've owned all the Boutique range, they are all excellent and tons of fun. The controls never bothered me either. Heck, the sliders on my JX-8P don't even work properly! And the volume is stuck on full. We are living in a wonderful age where we can have both options, cracking sound & good value.

  • @SteveOuimette
    @SteveOuimette Год назад +2

    The Rush Res was really obvious but outside of that particular sound (well, OK, the French horn was darker and fatter on the real deal) they're both amazing instruments. The difference in price has a lot to do with simply how much cost is involved with building a real "thing". Love em both, the software definitely takes up less space, lol.

  • @rv4002
    @rv4002 Год назад +3

    Curious how oberheim stands against Synapse Obsession

  • @MacXpert74
    @MacXpert74 Год назад +4

    Interesting. Overal I certainly preferred the real Oberheim, but Arturia did come quite close on certain patches. It does seem that the aftertouch is a bit too sensitive on the Arturia, but maybe this can be tweaked (?), or does it have something to do with the aftertouch implementation of the Oberheim keyboard?

  • @samueljbooth9124
    @samueljbooth9124 Год назад +1

    It's night and day . But get them to wear headphones next time as they are In different places in the room which isn't far to your speaker location. But fun game :)

  • @raymondjones4390
    @raymondjones4390 10 месяцев назад

    It's amazing how great these emulations have gotten. I would prefer the real thing, but space, expense and practicality can make it really hard to have all hardware (my Polybrute is super heavy and takes up a lot my limited space). This emulation is not just "close" or "pretty good" but at times indistinguishable -- even some patches sounding better than the hardware synth. Both of these are legit products.

  • @dingbatjack1234
    @dingbatjack1234 Год назад +4

    I played at home with studio monitors and got it 100% correct. Low end is NEVER the same with virtual.

    • @ManakachaRec
      @ManakachaRec Год назад

      Same here ! low end is mad on the original🙂

    • @kingivey4672
      @kingivey4672 Год назад

      any idea on how i can process my vst to sound more like the hardware?

  • @OswaldoVonSchnoobenstein
    @OswaldoVonSchnoobenstein Год назад +1

    OB-X8 takes it by my ears.

  • @irife2771
    @irife2771 Год назад +8

    I have an OBXa and I will say software is really close from my experience. It is kind of hard to explain tho but there is something my OB does that I haven't heard in software quite yet.

    • @NamelessSmile
      @NamelessSmile Год назад +1

      A few thousand pounds!

    • @SPAZZOID100
      @SPAZZOID100 Год назад +1

      @@NamelessSmile and something that will still work in 8 years.

    • @NamelessSmile
      @NamelessSmile Год назад +1

      @@SPAZZOID100 you could buy the arturia v collection every 10 years for a century and still be better off, I'm not sure that's an argument when the prices are so different, the more expensive one is so much more that you could buy multiples of many other things

    • @irife2771
      @irife2771 Год назад

      @@NamelessSmile Funny you mention this. I am also an accountant. The real kicker is the value of the Xa vs the value of the Soft Synths you have been buying for 10 years. Value is a weird metric when something only seems to appreciate. I would agree with you if the value of the Xa became worthless but that isn't really the case is it?

    • @NamelessSmile
      @NamelessSmile Год назад

      @@irife2771 that is the case, I'm sure the oberheim will appreciate, but how many years until it appreciates until you've covered the cost of the oberheim (less important). As in, if I pay for oberheim V or whatever its called from arturia, I'll never make money, but I also won't have any need to wait for it to appreciate as it isn't an investment

  • @smackdammit4266
    @smackdammit4266 Год назад +14

    Wow Arturia was already one of my favorite soft synth makers but this really tells me that I definitely don’t need to spend 2-5 grand on a Analog synth!

    • @christopherpederson1021
      @christopherpederson1021 Год назад +3

      I guess if you are fine with factory presets. You you make your own patches, the OB-X8 would be much better .

    • @somethingbad2460
      @somethingbad2460 Год назад +1

      you are totally correct

    • @Pulse2AM
      @Pulse2AM Год назад +1

      Most people besides musicians don't care what makes the tune only if they like the tune, I have Analogue lab 5 and you can stack two synths of different makers to make a patch, it can sound really good but it takes a bit of work sometimes.

    • @christopherpederson1021
      @christopherpederson1021 Год назад +1

      @@Pulse2AM So, do you make music for other people, or yourself?😂

    • @somethingbad2460
      @somethingbad2460 Год назад +2

      @@christopherpederson1021 he's saying the end result is what's going to matter the most at the end of the day, not the tools that got you there. they're just that, tools. if you have a fetish for hardware then go for hardware, otherwise go with software.

  • @jptaylor
    @jptaylor Год назад +3

    The price difference of the two in question here shows that the “real” instrument isn’t always the best value.

  • @wurlitsyzer9810
    @wurlitsyzer9810 Год назад +2

    would be interesting to campare to the Gforce Oberheim Plugin.

  • @jbooks888
    @jbooks888 Год назад +1

    Here is Australia the OB X8 sells for over $7,000. The Arturia VST is a couple of hundred. I think it would be a huge waste of money to buy the hardware synth. They are so similar, it's just not worth the difference in price.

    • @jimmypierson1980
      @jimmypierson1980 Год назад

      Yup especially for people who make music for the public. Casual listeners could never tell.

  • @vaportrails7943
    @vaportrails7943 Год назад

    The thing software really can’t emulate is filter resonance. As shown by the last patch in the comparison. But if you’re on a budget, you can totally make great music with the V-Collection. It’s all a matter of taste and priorities whether something like the OB-X8 is worth it for you.

    • @saren6538
      @saren6538 Год назад +1

      thats where you put eurorack analogue filters in the chain.. thats what i do

  • @fernandomiranda9736
    @fernandomiranda9736 Год назад +1

    run vsts through hardware preamp gain it up and its nice! also alyjames has a tremendous obx vst

    • @neonether
      @neonether Год назад

      Aly James, yes. OBxtreme is godly.

  • @technical234
    @technical234 8 месяцев назад

    really this time arturia did great job its their best emulation i ve heard

  • @Hatris2000
    @Hatris2000 Год назад +4

    I want to see the commenters who are saying that they can hear the difference, doing it without visual aid...

    • @Hatris2000
      @Hatris2000 Год назад +2

      it is basically a crap shot... even them got like half right and half wrong.

    • @david_davinci
      @david_davinci Год назад +3

      lol...ya, I just watched it a second time with eyes closed running through my studio monitors. Only one you could tell a difference was the last one. Also...do people actually think that they are going to hear a true difference through the YT compression???

  • @dreamline2007
    @dreamline2007 6 месяцев назад

    I actually preferred the Arturia version every time. It would be nice to have the real thing buuuuuut I’m gonna say we’re gonna record into the DAW where it’s gonna get converted anyways.

  • @user-eu3mn6ss5l
    @user-eu3mn6ss5l Год назад +5

    Great video. It seems like the software is very close for one tenth the price. I'd rather have the real thing... unless I have to pay for it, and then I'd rather have the software.

    • @_mickmccarthy
      @_mickmccarthy Год назад +1

      And if you only want the OB, well the software version is more like 1/50th of the price!

    • @user-eu3mn6ss5l
      @user-eu3mn6ss5l Год назад

      @@_mickmccarthy Software is going to dominate in the future.

  • @nicolasstrawberry4148
    @nicolasstrawberry4148 Год назад +1

    Very nice video, I own the Arturia V Collection and this video makes me feel better about it lol.

  • @SeverityOne
    @SeverityOne 6 месяцев назад

    Hey! I saw Jean-Michel Jarre live in Paris (1990 and 1995) and Mont-Saint-Michel (1993). Does that mean that I can be on your show? 🙂
    The sample size is too small to come to a definite conclusion, but this means that tossing a coin would have been equally accurate in guessing which is which.

  • @isham16
    @isham16 Год назад

    The vst had few dbs more on most patches to my ears ? This makes a huge difference in perception

  • @Abruzzo333
    @Abruzzo333 11 месяцев назад

    Definitely varies from patch to patch because that last patch wasn't really close.

  • @jsmacks11
    @jsmacks11 10 месяцев назад

    There is some extra weight in the hardware sound that's missing in the software.
    That said in a mix I'm not sure how much that is noticed.
    Arturia definitely is brighter and seems to have more movement. In some cases I preferred the Arturia in particular to patches that need more high end.
    That said the sounds are pretty close and it is almost like were just flipping coins.
    I wonder if it would be more interesting to use duplicate models to account for variance in machines and maybe use an Arturia patch with a different variance calibration.
    I think even with a bit of doctoring the presets, the difference could be even less as sometimes there were obvious differences in brightness and/or modulation.

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 9 месяцев назад

      And vice verser! The Arturia on some of those sounds just sounded better!

  • @csu111
    @csu111 8 месяцев назад +1

    OB-X8 vs UB-XA comparison?

  • @furiobisotti8150
    @furiobisotti8150 Год назад +6

    Simple. Just as similar other tests. Good software can be incredibly close to real hardware. You buy hardware because it's sexier and you can edit sounds much better with all the gizmos. You don't buy hardware because it sounds better, because this is a lie, in 2022.
    As time passes, software will improve. I own Arturia collection since many years and I am sure about that.

  • @SiliconPrairie
    @SiliconPrairie 7 месяцев назад

    Rush res was off, but it shouldn't be. Maybe it's a VST calibration issue?

  • @PurpleMusicProductions
    @PurpleMusicProductions Год назад

    I missed the first one but got the others correctly, however the differences were subtle except for the last one. The consequence of context is in isolation we may or may not be able to discern the differences, however in a full mix it would be impossible, especially in hybrid studio setups or just plain in the box EQs and filters alla Fabfilter. At that point your wallet speaks volumes.

  • @markkilley2683
    @markkilley2683 Год назад +2

    Both are good. But there are some differences.

    • @annother3350
      @annother3350 Год назад

      I personally think the OPX-Pro II is even better than the Arturia

    • @MusicFed
      @MusicFed Год назад

      @@annother3350 agreed. That’s the reference point

  • @ssssssssssss885
    @ssssssssssss885 Год назад

    It's like the wine tasting of 1976. Well done. (and now I know, I don't really need the $5K box unless collectible freak)

  • @ScottMcFadyen
    @ScottMcFadyen 2 месяца назад

    If a person were to use a really fancy two channel ADC like a Burl B2 Bomber with the OP-XA could that put it over the top?

  • @harveyspecter1653
    @harveyspecter1653 6 месяцев назад

    The hardware always sounds as if it has more stereo separation. Probably because the electronics on both paths are never identical which gives a wider feel. But you can work on that with processing imo. Arturia is damn close.

  • @briann5001
    @briann5001 Год назад +1

    Extremely similar.. first one I thought was the obx

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove2000 Год назад +1

    Very interesting.

  • @dankeplace
    @dankeplace Год назад +1

    I love the Hi-tech VR glasses, this is space age 21 century just like the Thunderbirds predicted.
    I'm watching Man Down so will check this out asap.
    :D

  • @unseenlab
    @unseenlab Год назад

    the real deal OBX8 def sounds phatter, but the Arturia is damn close and not even comparable in price!

  • @poloxl9122
    @poloxl9122 Год назад +1

    😮😮😮😮 incredible

  • @gffg387
    @gffg387 Год назад +2

    Hardware was a bit wider, probably because of phase drifts going on. But apart from the last patch, I would be fine with either, and could probably "correct" the software to sound more like the hardware with eqs and widening plugins. Btw, on some examples I even preferred the Arturia one.
    But the last patch the hardware destroyed the software. The filter and resonance are way better on the Oberheim.

  • @lumpichu
    @lumpichu 11 месяцев назад

    I wonder how my old cheap OP-X PRO-II VST would fare :)

  • @cnfuzz
    @cnfuzz Год назад

    As long the type of sound is a muted one then very hard to Tell , but on bright and modulation types software loses.

  • @FatNorthernBigot
    @FatNorthernBigot 6 месяцев назад

    They're quite similar, but quite different. Ultimately, the software is not a patch on the original. No pun intended.

  • @judahdadone9410
    @judahdadone9410 10 месяцев назад

    Am I the only one that feels like the filter cutoffs are not particularly well matched for comparison on a few of these patches?

  • @neonether
    @neonether Год назад

    Arturia did a great job, but for analog nuts the difference is immediate. Maybe someday the digital realm will be able to simulate a filter as rich and beautiful as what Tom Oberheim painstakingly spent years creating...but not yet. The two cannot be equated. I don't really care about digital vs analog, whatever inspires you, but they're different enough not just in sound, to find joy in both.

  • @ArmanMartirosyan79
    @ArmanMartirosyan79 10 месяцев назад

    Hello, OP-Xa V I can't find mono Low or Legato Low, maybe that function is missing?

  • @dynamiketiger
    @dynamiketiger 7 месяцев назад

    Sorry if already answered, but what do you use for amplification? Or just the studio monitors?

  • @NathanChisholm041
    @NathanChisholm041 9 месяцев назад

    Man the cork sniffers in comments is Haliriouse sitting in their ivory towers! lol

  • @MFitz12
    @MFitz12 Год назад

    Use the hardware in studio and the software live so you don't have to lug that beast around and risk it getting damaged or stolen.

  • @petitoiseaubleu
    @petitoiseaubleu Год назад

    Volumes are not the same on some patches
    Some patches were better on Arturia

  • @krinzologicstudio
    @krinzologicstudio Год назад +2

    Lol.. trolling video…is funny really and make you think that sometimes you don’t nrrd to waste money for your compulsive GAS. Btw if you don’t hear the difference then you need a new pair of ears 😂 just tweek the filters…and you are done, in a mix is really really hard or impossible.
    Tip: run the arturia software at 48 kHz and play it ..then switch your audiocard at 96 kHz and tell me how incredible sounds better ….so since i own few audio card and few macs i do use dedicated mac to play virtuals at 96 kHz connected via analog to my main audiocard.
    Btw i ordered an ob-8x because i do love hardware synths, i don’t know but I’m an old fart guy who was born in 1972 and i was living my teen age in music in the 80’s synth era …I cannot live without hardware..i need it hahahah! 😊

    • @neonether
      @neonether Год назад +2

      Great points! Not all VSTs sound better at higher sample rate though. Some do, some need internal oversampling first. Aly James Lab OBxtreme sounds AMAZING in my opinion. At least through my UAD Apollo x8. The attention to detail in that VST made me smile. I love that one and I love my OB-X8. If I had to sell it and only play said VST, I'd be bummed out for sure, especially inspirational wise. Huge part is walking into my studio and having an analog beauty right there to greet me.

  • @charlesbronson2806
    @charlesbronson2806 Год назад

    They do sound similar by the time they're bounced down to 16 bit or compressed audio. When I'm listening to my analogs with they naked ear, I notice a bigger difference. Especially when tweaking the filters.

  • @dankeplace
    @dankeplace Год назад +4

    OBX8 destroys software, it has amazing pan spread, depth, dynamics and clearly sounds just overall better.
    This is why I use hardware and not software, nothing can really emulate the real thing unless it was digital to start off with, then things get closer, but analog wins hands down in the hardware realm.
    Will you be doing a deep dive on the Mini?

  • @MikkelGrumBovin
    @MikkelGrumBovin Год назад +1

    Jack , you have grown up - i like you new understated - knowing old man - teewee persona .... and your playing has deff approved ,- 🤔

  • @Sicolirics
    @Sicolirics Год назад +1

    comparing an OBX8 with a simple Arturia software is like wanting to see Tarzan naked at a party in Ibiza
    are you really comparing me an iconic synthesizer with a piece of crap software?

  • @0072gldnfngr
    @0072gldnfngr Год назад

    I was 4/5. Guess I’ll give my self some cookies lol in all seriousness, I used my headphones to see if I’m making excuses to buy hardware or if there is an actual difference. I found that both statements are true. 🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Melodic623
    @Melodic623 Год назад +2

    Arturia is the best. You can beef up the sounds if you know what you’re doing.

    • @DurararaX2
      @DurararaX2 Год назад +1

      You can put a supercharged V8 in Ford Pinto if you know what you're doing too.

  • @triplebeam23
    @triplebeam23 Год назад

    And this lady and gentlemen is why i dont spend 5Gs on Hardware.. i dont know how anyone can try and justify the price they pay for these things

  • @briann5001
    @briann5001 Год назад +1

    Also … the prophet x literally has an OBX that can go in it

  • @the_JTowny
    @the_JTowny Год назад +3

    Nice one. Saves me wasting money on the arturia. 👍
    Night and day.

  • @mh22xv
    @mh22xv Год назад +5

    C’mon Behringer, give us the UB-Xa already!

  • @topofthemornintoya
    @topofthemornintoya Год назад +2

    I’m not a fan of the OBX8 and chose/preferred the Arturia every time except for the sweep!
    My bank is smiling at me

  • @daboosreviews8819
    @daboosreviews8819 Год назад +7

    Are these guys deaf? The Oberheim is vastly richer in every way. It's too bad they didn't disable the effects on the Arturia. The OBX8 purposely has no effects.

    • @waltercruz2044
      @waltercruz2044 Год назад +2

      There are no effects on the Arturia on the original OB-Xa factory patches, just checked.

  • @johnbach2380
    @johnbach2380 Год назад +1

    I dont even think Arturia makes the best Oberheim plugin... IMO.

    • @saren6538
      @saren6538 Год назад

      enlighten us then

    • @johnbach2380
      @johnbach2380 Год назад +2

      @@saren6538 obsession by synapse audio. Diva can do a good impression of a oberheim.
      Opx pro still may be the best for some sounds after all these years.

    • @saren6538
      @saren6538 Год назад

      @@johnbach2380 … ok you’ve enlightened us 👍

  • @SPAZZOID100
    @SPAZZOID100 Год назад

    The OBX8 will last a lifetime. The VST will likely not work after a few OS updates.

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 9 месяцев назад

      LOL what rubbish! You think Arturia is just going to stop because of a OS update?

  • @criqdekuyper9259
    @criqdekuyper9259 Год назад

    In the end, they are close enough to not spend $$ on the Oberheim. Sorry.

  • @ernestobevilacqua7288
    @ernestobevilacqua7288 9 дней назад

    if we're talking about music, no one has needed a real synth from about 20 years ago.. if we're talking about bullshit like feeling, the real knob then yes, 5000 dollars for the real synth are justified

  • @MrPsanterIsBack
    @MrPsanterIsBack Год назад +3

    Bottom line: it's impossible to differentiate them in a mix.

    • @SPAZZOID100
      @SPAZZOID100 Год назад +1

      And yet, this $5,000 synth is selling like hotcakes.

    • @MrPsanterIsBack
      @MrPsanterIsBack Год назад

      @@SPAZZOID100 which is strange.
      But I have seen stranger things.

    • @neonether
      @neonether Год назад

      @@MrPsanterIsBack Strange that top musicians prefer a legendary instrument as opposed to a software program? Wonder why Tom Oberheim didn't spend his final years writing a VST.

  • @ilearncode7365
    @ilearncode7365 Год назад

    Shouldve been midi lines controlling them so the keys, sensitivities etc are the same.