Just getting into Neo Geo and really appreciate this video! It’s nice to see some of the less common stuff getting brought to light to check out! Thanks!
An underrated Gem I try to mention because it never came out on the home console and was MVS arcade only was Zed Blade (operation ragnarock) a really cool shooter. Nice call on Prehistoric Aisle 2 that was another arcade only and a great Coop game 👍🏻
I've only just become aware of your channel a couple of months ago. Just wanted to say, as a Neo Geo owner since the old days, I enjoy your content very much! 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing that Scott, thats cool to hear. I definitely wasn’t able to have one in the beginning but l was able to play in the arcade and then eventually build a collection as an adult. The system in general often gets overlooked, as most associate it with the prime fighting title franchises.
Money Puzzle Exchanger / Money Idol Exchanger would be at the very top of my personal "Underrated & Overlooked Games Neo Geo Games"-list. Man, I love that gem of a game.
Cyber Lip is the first Neo Geo game I ever played in the arcades. Consequently, it's the game I think about when Neo Geo comes up. League Bowling is awesome. I used to play that in the arcades, too, which says something.
I recall playing it in the arcades a few times as well, I was always a sucker for the futuristic shooter theme. League bowling I remember being in a machine at a sports bar but I don’t think I ever played it. I dismissed it as a dumb thing to waste quarters on. Here we are years later and it’s a staple in my home arcade.
@@ScarletSprites Your channel is making me want to delve into the madness of collecting for Neo Geo. I've been a Turbografx/PCE collector since I was a kid. What is it with expensive habits? lol
Got 10 Underrated Neo games of my own (in no particular order) : - Top Hunter - Ganryu - Art of Fighting 3 - Nightmare in the Dark - Waku Waku 7 - Super Dodge Ball - Spinmaster - Neo Bomberman - Shock Troopers - King of the Monsters 2 Excellent video, by the way! Alway happy to talk Neo Geo!
@@ScarletSprites indeed! The funny thing is, I discovered that game by pure accident before I started collecting for Neo Geo. It was my first exposure to the platform (via emulation), and I made it a point to own that game in SOME form when I did start collecting MVS games.
It doesn’t get the attention Nintendo or Sega games do of the era, but hopefully with games being more available on Minis and eShops more people will take the opportunity to play them.
Super Spy can be a real drag if you try to playthrough the whole thing, but I do appreciate its place in history as one of the first Neo games. That viewpoint just wasn’t something that was common back then, it was a real cool design. Amazing seeing it for the first time.
Neo drift out is in my top three Neo Geo games. I grew up playing it and to this day I enjoy it. Only issue is there’s not many courses. Solid video as always sir. 👍🏻
Hahaha. You're welcome bro. I think it looks cool. 8^). Also, I stopped by JohnRiggs's channel and posted his video on the Neo-Geo thread as well. I mention on his list of underrated Neo-Geo on who i am and was forwarded over by you. Has interesting material that he to offers too. 8^) Anthony..
Good list! I saw Pochi and Nyaa in the beginning and thought you would mention that. I wanted to hear your opinion about it because i seriously love the gameplay but the cpu is THE most unforgiving AI I've ever played in a puzzler lol. It took me so many attempts to beat the 7 stage story mode or whatever just once. I would have spent like $100 in quarters lol.
To be fair, Celicas were in most all rally games from the time, but I understand your liking for it, because I still love driving my ‘86 MR2, almost 40 years later...
I agree with your list and have a few other underrated/overlooked Neo Geo games: Ninja Combat, Eight Man, Mutation Nation, Crossed Swords, Super Spy, NAM 1975, Spin Master and Blue's Journey.
I like seeing 8Man get as much love as it has. A few other people mentioned that as well, same with Crossed Swords. I think John had Super Spy, Spin Master, and Blue’s Journey on his list so I didn’t include them.
thought you be singing wonderwall with this quarantine episode. I never played most of these mentioned games cept for Driftout which I was completely horrible at and this was an enjoyable episode and deepdive to different games.
I do love some Oasis but not enough to intentionally mimic hairstyles...20+ years later. Thanks for watching and I hope you get a chance to try out a few of these!
Great list! I just picked up Top Hunter and its actually a pretty damn cool game. It's always good to see people pushing the neo geo's amazing sports games. As a long time NBA Jam fan, I think I like Street Slam more now. It feels like it has just a little more strategy in the gameplay and also has the bitchin soundtrack. Rage of the Dragons is quickly becoming one of my favorite fighting games too. The game is just plain fun and controlls very well. The ridiculous air juggling combos are so damn satisfying!
Ahhh....Cyber-lip. I can remember it like yesterday...thats the very first time I've ever seen a Big Red out in the wild. It was at a 7-11 in the summer time and I was instantly hooked on the NG from that day...good memories😀
The first Neo Geo game you played does tend to standout for sure, especially on those big reds. I’m impressed your 7-11 had a Neo. I’m struggling to remember if ours had any machines at all.
Super baseball 2020 is another overlooked game I think, hardly anyone ever mentions it and its very fun to play. Baseball stars 2 usually overshadows it.
Honestly, I believe Top Hunter is so overlooked & underrated, it needs its own standalone video. If you want me to help you with the video, I’ll gladly provide my own commentary & 2-cents for a future video (that is if you’re interested).
I'd agree, I've been trying to think of ways of how to handle a video on one game. A simple review just seems boring to me and isn't something I'm interested in doing. Once I figure out a format I'll probably start with a few easy titles. Thanks for your offer to assist, if I get that far.
@@ScarletSprites No problem! If in case you need help finding any of the bonus stages, I can help, too. I know practically ALL the secrets in this game--and that's not even counting it's Cutting Room Floor page!
I think you and John covered tons of good underrated ones. I personally have a soft spot for the King of the Monsters franchise. Completely different games, the 1 and 2nd, but both are worth a good run through or vs action
Thanks man! I played through the first about six months ago and struggled a bit with my attention span, to be honest. The second just seems so much better to me. I know both of those have their fans though and we’re fairly common to see in the arcade back in the day.
I think Top Hunter has a pretty decent following, which is why I didn’t put it on the list but felt it still needed called out. The art style on that is SO 90s.
I love Street Slams. Even tho it's a broken unbalanced mess (if you had the ball no one could really steal it from you) the music is awesome in there. I need to play Street Slams 95 one of these days.
Stellar list. Feeing your pain re’ the haircut woes too. I see someone in the street with neat, freshly cut hair and I’m like how?, who?, where?...show me...??
God I have such a love hate relationship with you and your channel! You are single handedly responsible for my MVS collecting addiction!... And I thank you!
I really appreciate your selection, nice work sir. Personally, I’d have dropped out Cyber Lip and BBSP for Zupapa! and Super Sidekicks 2 but as you say; each to their own 👍🏻
Since John already had Zupapa! on his list I didn’t add it to mine, I picked the next ten beyond that. It’s funny because I almost picked Sidekicks 2 over Baseball Stars Pro. That confirmed for me though exactly what I said, Baseball Stars Pro is ALWAYS overlooked or passed on.
Haha to be fair, there are a handful on his I probably would have added to mine as well (definitely Shock Troopers). His list forced me to do a slightly deeper dive which I was happy to do.
7:53 “an MST3K of shooters” There would have been a front sprite HUD layer of a row of chairs with Joel/Mike, Crow, and Tom Servo while they ridicule you as you progress through the gameplay. Also, cutscenes between levels of the shorts that transition through a series of doors as the camera traverses through the Satellite of Love
I'm a old school neo geo guy I had the system when nobody else had one back in the day. I'm just trying to figure out how the hell you didn't mention 8 man... that's a game that's visually impressive and fast paced and fun!
I briefly considered it but ultimately it just didn’t make the cut. I’ve played through it a handful of times and it just doesn’t do for me what a lot of the other titles do. It’s not a bad game, but I do think it’s a little repetitive and the running sequences are the same each time. So not bad overall, but maybe makes the cut for a part 2.
@@ScarletSprites That's your opinion, But I highly disagree. In my opinion 8 man is one of the most fun games on the system. Your wife would of loved it. I played it with my wife and we had a ball. You also forgot to mention viewpoint! Another gem! People dont really know much about! Anyway I loved neo geo it's in my top 5 systems I've ever owned. I was the only kid in my neighborhood with one lol.. my house was the go to place back then. Amazing system..
LMAO at the shout out. I'm digging your list with the exception of Strikers. That game literally bores me to sleep. But I know a lot of people love it to death. Good stuff!
It’s repetitive, I’m with you on that. I did want to call it out for the pseudo-TATE layout. Don’t pretend that’s the ONLY game you didn’t like on that list either.
@@ScarletSprites haha. I gotta say, If I was making a 10 underrated list, Sengoku would be on that list. The first game. Awesome music, awesome atmosphere and cool scaling from the background to foreground. However the hit detection is total trash. Great game though.
I think it’s often unfortunate people associate fighting games with Neo Geo because there’s a lot to love outside of that. I often wonder about what could have been had the fighting game craze not hit at that time.
Nice, I love that Neo brings people from all over the world together. I kind of guessed you were maybe in Europe based on your comment about Street Hoop. Someone from England mentioned the same thing about its popularity. In the US it just wasn’t that big of a game in the arcade.
@@ScarletSprites oh I see. Good to know. Here it was a classic. I think we played more sports and best&up and less the shmups. Oh and feel free to subscribe to my micro channel 😁😁
That ProAm game looks like fun. And yeet Abubo! And quarantine hair. I got mine cut yesterday. Robo Army looks tight too. This is a helpful guide. I was unfamiliar with almost all of these....
It was one of the first carts I picked up. At least one of the first ten or so. It was strange because I had remembered seeing it way back in the early 90s and had totally forgotten about it. You won’t test your mental capacity by playing it, but you will have fun.
Definitely a couple I’d go along with from your list (Robo Army, Ninja Commando, League Bowling) and a few that I’m yet to try including Baseball Stars Professional. My earliest Neo Geo memory includes that game, alongside Magician Lord, NAM-1975 and Top Players Golf; my dad had taken me with him to a pub when I was a kid and left me with some change by an arcade machine which happened to be an MVS with those 4 games. I opted to play Magician Lord and when I had (quickly) run out of money I just stood for ages watching the 4 games cycling through their attract sequences until my dad came over to collect me. I’ve played Baseball Stars 2 several times but will have to give the first one a try for the nostalgia lol. Ps - Shave the head! (I think you guys in the States call it a ‘buzz cut’?) I did mine about a month and a half ago now and am loving it haha!!
Right!? Magician Lord, Nam, Top Player's Golf, and Baseball Stars Prof. are all the OGs of the Neo Geo and always will be. Those are essentially the launch titles for the arcade when it first came out, although more came shortly there after. I've never been a fan of the buzz cut, I just can't do it. I will let it continue to shag and wear a hat if I have to until I can get this cut, lol.
Hiding Hero :D good list...being born in Europe I would probably remplace baseball by a super sidekicks I feel metal slug is so good, all run n gun (top or side view) are overlooked on the neogeo and should be played...
Yeah I can certainly understand the appeal of Super Sidekicks. I often watch arguments on which of the four is better. Most seem to prefer the second one it seems.
I actually contemplated talking about that one. I had Sengoku 2 in front of it so I ultimately decided to shelve it, but it is for certain a game that gets overlooked.
I agree with your list and have most of those titles. I think I would add Magician Lord and ViewPoint. I love my Neo Geo MVS and hope to buy mvsx so I can get hack and have all the games. The prices for cartridges have gotten so expensive. 👍😎
Solid episode.. I feel proud that I both follow your channel for some time now. Would love to know more content Creator's take on this subject. Cheers from Spain!
I love the international appeal the Neo has. It’s been so great hearing from people all over the world lately, yourself included. Thanks for being a part of the channel and sharing!
@@ScarletSprites You're welcome! I do not own an AES but I own the mini.. I know you were critical about it but i am enjoying it! Arcade stick Pro is next to enjoy the fighting games more..There's just something unique about its animation and colors. Stay safe bro.
I do find myself playing NDO more often than Thrash Rally. I know the latter is “better”, but I just like the way the Celica is modeled in NDO. The music in each game is pretty decent. Can’t forget Overtop either.
Killer 90s soundtrack too, good pick. A really tough game. I kept this one off only because of the port to Genesis and then the later enhanced version for Playstation.
Great video! I find Crossed Swords goes somewhat unnoticed to the masses. As is Matrimelee when it comes to fighting games. Money Puzzle Exchanger is another good casual puzzle game, despite the over-the-top anime graphics. I also find Pop N' Bounce to be a pretty good take on the Breakout genre. What do you think? Damn, I've wanted Neo Drift Out forever. Thanks for reminding me.
I did consider Crossed Swords as well. I’ll admit that I don’t play it as much as the others on this list but that’s more personal preferences than anything.
It takes some getting used to, that’s or certain. There’s actually a dip switch setting that allows you to toggle between a controller and paddle, though to my knowledge I don’t think a paddle version of the game ever existed.
Scarlet Sprites that very interesting(I didn’t think to try the dip settings), I will now seek to purchase the cart again with this new information, hell ill may as well get myself the mvs kit cheers mate ;)
Interesting picks here my dude! I'm a little surprised to see Robo Army, Ninja Commando and Neo Drift Out here, I didn't think these would be considered underrated or overlooked. They're all fantastic, but perhaps I'm just not in tune with the general Neo Geo population. Cyber-Lip in my opinion deserves more credit than it gets. It's not perfect for sure, but it gets unfairly bashed upon. Everyone like to compare it to Metal Slug, but Cyber-Lip came out 6 years earlier during the same year the MVS was introduced so you can say, even with its flaws, that Cyber-Lip laid out the groundwork for what Metal Slug would eventually be. If I had to pick a few titles that I feel are overlooked they would definitely be Top Hunter, Far East of Eden Kabuki Klash and Crossed Swords I & II. Top Hunter is awesome to play with a friend if you just want to chill, crack open a drink of your choice and just chat and play. Far East of Eden is, in my opinion, a great fighting game that's often overshadowed by the more mainstream KoF, Real Bout and Fatal Fury games. It's also got a killer soundtrack, especially on the CD version. Crossed Swords (both 1 and 2) are very interesting games that are hard to describe. Think of The Super Spy, but in fantasy medieval times with swords and magic and you can see the top half of your character as a see-through wire frame. They're very fun to play and are pretty unique in their own right, I hardly ever see people talk about them. What do you think of the games I picked? Would they fall into the category of "overlooked" or nah?
Nice humble brag about actually having hair, lol! Great list! Haven’t heard of some of these and kinda wanna try Ninja Commando (for the name alone) and Street Slam now.
Thanks for the list. Also, how can anyone hate on Rage of the Dragons? It's not my favorite fighter but I would lying if I said that it wasn't a solid game. It's a hidden gem amoung it's genre.
I just like knowing it’s Double Dragon II with a major face lift. Jimmy and Billy never looked so good. The rights to this have recently changed hands and the inheriting company says they are planning to do something with the IP.
The version of prehistoric Isle looks different. I have a health bar and unlimited continues.... You seem to start with 4 continues and have lives instead of health. Am I correct? :P
The game I tried out recently was sonic wings 2 and I never have played it before and it was so fun. It might be one of my favorite neo geo shmups besides blazing star and last resort.
Scarlet Sprites I need to try ninja commando and league bowling. I have heard of league bowling and I bet it is a lot of fun. Ninja commando looks right up my alley.
Rage of the Dragons is a solid choice for this list. Unique gameplay with great graphics. Being I have an AES, this title imo made the purchase price of the NEOSD bearable.
Yeah $400 for the NeoSD is far from cheap. That said, once you’ve bought a few carts you’ve probably already surpassed that. Definitely a system where knowing what your goals are (collecting vs playing vs combo) upfront really helps with planning.
Great list. Your hair doesn't look too bad, it lools like the prerty boy hair stylt from the mid-2000s. My lockdown hair looks like an anime messy spikey hairstyle which makes my friends amd family go WTF.
I thought it was funny and I wanted the hair documented for the coming years. You’ll likely see a hat from now on until it gets cut, lol. I think I’d prefer the spikey look. I had that going on for a while but it’s just too long to stand up now. Even my hair is just plain tired.
Every time I watch this channel I go to eBay & look at AES consoles but I’m so unsure about making the dive. I’d go with a flash cart if I ever did pull the trigger but still all that is close to $1,000.00
The NeoSD will run you for $400 alone. You can probably grab a consolized MVS for $200 or so if you’re willing to go the AliExpress route. I’d start with an consolized MVS and a cheaper game that’s fun like Metal Slug. See if you like it and then either buy another “cheap” game or start saving for the NeoSD.
@@ScarletSprites I only after reading a comment about your haircut now get why you said that. I didn't mean to imply any mockery towards you, just FYI. I didn't notice your hair looking bad IMO. I was speculating you were referring to buying a VR (when you mentioned hats on) kit to add and connect to your impressive collection of gaming hardware. Now I get it. Be grateful you are young, healthy, and not bald. Not like there's anything wrong with that! I hope you are well. Thank you for your content.
I really feel bad for you if true, because this was essentially a joke. You’d be better off just buzzing your head if that’s the case, save $50, and buy a new game instead.
Alien Vs. Predator over the right shoulder, oh yeah. Great list! My personal list in no particular order. Baseball Stars 1 and 2 League Bowling Neo Turf Masters Rage of Dragons WindJammers Mutation Nation Last Resort Ah shit, who am I fooling my list has dozens of games lol.
Was "Riding Hero" an expensive buy or no? (don't play that game...lol I never heard of it) that would suck if if a really bad game was expensive because of rarity....... : (
I love all the games in your list, seems we have similar taste. This is one of your best videos btw. A little bit unscripted and spoken from the heart it seems. Sidenote; todd is an a-hole, have had personal beef with him for some years now ;). Stay healthy Joe (your name IS Joe, right?)!
Haha, yes my name is Joe. Glad you liked the video, it actually was a fairly easy one to do. The ones that you enjoy and are excited about generally are though.
ack, league bowling is expensive dammit :( .... I have Rage and Double Dragon carts, I like'em both...jeesh I got my Big Red back in 2007 and bought a whole wack of carts on ebay and local classifieds for on avg 30-50 dollars cdn per cart (although Strikers was 100.00, guy said it still made money on locations)...NOW, even lousy games are all over 100.00 CDN on ebay.
That’s funny because I probably started collecting carts around that very same time. I haven’t looked at League Bowling in a while but assumed it wouldn’t have gone up too much. I should have known better. I’ve noticed Neo carts that have crept in price just in the last two or three years.
@@ScarletSprites theres only one League Bowling available currently at 196.00 CDN I thought it'd be cheap as well, I think its more a comment on the rising values and perhaps seller delusions?
That is for sure happening too; people listing things at ridiculous prices and then just waiting things out for months. Sometimes it’s easier to just pick carts up off of forums or FB groups.
A new look to start the new month right Scarlet. Very nice. You're styling and profiling bro. 8^) I posted this up on the Neo-Geo thread on Atariage.com for you. It's on post #22,694 for you to view. Thank you as always bro. Great list of games and are always enjoyable in my book. Anthony...
I don't disagree with most of the list but. Rage of the Dragons is not on my top 10 or 20. Or maybe top 30. I bought RotD from ng.com new back in the day. Even made a Shock Box insert for it. But after playing it for too many hours, I finally came to the conclusion that, no, I really just don't like RotD. I must be a terrible person. Just for the record, Last Blade 2 is my favorite NeoGeo fighting game... and my favorite Neo Geo game overall. TSS would be a very close second. LB2 is the one I come back to and the one I have spent the most time with on my old Super Gun, then my Neo cab, and now my Mister.
I feel like this must be Todd’s burner account. (Last Blade 2 is undoubtedly awesome. No surprise there that that’s your favorite fighter on the system.)
Phew, Shinoken wasn't on this list. That would require an abundant lack of taste, picking that in an overlooked Neo-Geo game list. That game deserves to be overlooked. Just walk past it slowly and calmly, but don't make eye contact.
Nice list! So many of these are already on my 'round 2' that I'll post in a while. Good call on Rage of the Dragons! That's one I haven't played.
Thanks John! Appreciate seeing the Neo make it’s way into your series. Looking forward to more great content from you.
RotD is great! Have good music and gameplay
I’ve always felt that Nightmare in the Dark for the MVS doesn’t get the love it deserves. Solid little platformer.
Definitely a go to the entire month of October for me. It’s basically Snow Bros., but I do like the theme.
Agreed. 👍
Just getting into Neo Geo and really appreciate this video! It’s nice to see some of the less common stuff getting brought to light to check out! Thanks!
Thanks Ben, welcome back the world of Neo Geo.
An underrated Gem I try to mention because it never came out on the home console and was MVS arcade only was Zed Blade (operation ragnarock) a really cool shooter. Nice call on Prehistoric Aisle 2 that was another arcade only and a great Coop game 👍🏻
I like Zed Blade as well. The only reason I didn’t mention it is because John called it out on his list.
Scarlet Sprites I’m about to watch that one next!
I've only just become aware of your channel a couple of months ago. Just wanted to say, as a Neo Geo owner since the old days, I enjoy your content very much! 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing that Scott, thats cool to hear. I definitely wasn’t able to have one in the beginning but l was able to play in the arcade and then eventually build a collection as an adult. The system in general often gets overlooked, as most associate it with the prime fighting title franchises.
@@ScarletSprites Just LOL'ed at the Riding Hero summation 😂
Money Puzzle Exchanger / Money Idol Exchanger would be at the very top of my personal "Underrated & Overlooked Games Neo Geo Games"-list. Man, I love that gem of a game.
Cyber Lip is the first Neo Geo game I ever played in the arcades. Consequently, it's the game I think about when Neo Geo comes up. League Bowling is awesome. I used to play that in the arcades, too, which says something.
I recall playing it in the arcades a few times as well, I was always a sucker for the futuristic shooter theme. League bowling I remember being in a machine at a sports bar but I don’t think I ever played it. I dismissed it as a dumb thing to waste quarters on. Here we are years later and it’s a staple in my home arcade.
@@ScarletSprites Your channel is making me want to delve into the madness of collecting for Neo Geo. I've been a Turbografx/PCE collector since I was a kid. What is it with expensive habits? lol
Got 10 Underrated Neo games of my own (in no particular order) :
- Top Hunter
- Ganryu
- Art of Fighting 3
- Nightmare in the Dark
- Waku Waku 7
- Super Dodge Ball
- Spinmaster
- Neo Bomberman
- Shock Troopers
- King of the Monsters 2
Excellent video, by the way! Alway happy to talk Neo Geo!
Waku Waku 7 is as wonderful to look at as it is to play. It’s a gorgeous game.
@@ScarletSprites indeed! The funny thing is, I discovered that game by pure accident before I started collecting for Neo Geo. It was my first exposure to the platform (via emulation), and I made it a point to own that game in SOME form when I did start collecting MVS games.
Legit list, Scarlet! All nice games imo! More people need to give these Neo Geo games a go!
It doesn’t get the attention Nintendo or Sega games do of the era, but hopefully with games being more available on Minis and eShops more people will take the opportunity to play them.
I enjoy Breakers Revenge, and the campy-ness of Super Spy.
Super Spy can be a real drag if you try to playthrough the whole thing, but I do appreciate its place in history as one of the first Neo games. That viewpoint just wasn’t something that was common back then, it was a real cool design. Amazing seeing it for the first time.
Neo drift out is in my top three Neo Geo games. I grew up playing it and to this day I enjoy it. Only issue is there’s not many courses. Solid video as always sir. 👍🏻
Agree, it’s pretty limited from a course perspective. Like you, I still like ripping through it though. Thanks for sharing.
Hahaha. You're welcome bro. I think it looks cool. 8^). Also, I stopped by JohnRiggs's channel and posted his video on the Neo-Geo thread as well. I mention on his list of underrated Neo-Geo on who i am and was forwarded over by you. Has interesting material that he to offers too. 8^)
Anthony..
Good list! I saw Pochi and Nyaa in the beginning and thought you would mention that. I wanted to hear your opinion about it because i seriously love the gameplay but the cpu is THE most unforgiving AI I've ever played in a puzzler lol. It took me so many attempts to beat the 7 stage story mode or whatever just once. I would have spent like $100 in quarters lol.
To be fair, Celicas were in most all rally games from the time, but I understand your liking for it, because I still love driving my ‘86 MR2, almost 40 years later...
I knew a guy who had a gold colored MR2. Loved that car.
I agree with your list and have a few other underrated/overlooked Neo Geo games: Ninja Combat, Eight Man, Mutation Nation, Crossed Swords, Super Spy, NAM 1975, Spin Master and Blue's Journey.
I like seeing 8Man get as much love as it has. A few other people mentioned that as well, same with Crossed Swords. I think John had Super Spy, Spin Master, and Blue’s Journey on his list so I didn’t include them.
@@ScarletSprites Cool, I didn't get a chance to watch the other video yet.
I love that I can now buy almost every NG game on Switch. Except SSRPG. Sadly Ill prob never get to play it.
thought you be singing wonderwall with this quarantine episode. I never played most of these mentioned games cept for Driftout which I was completely horrible at and this was an enjoyable episode and deepdive to different games.
I do love some Oasis but not enough to intentionally mimic hairstyles...20+ years later. Thanks for watching and I hope you get a chance to try out a few of these!
Great list! I just picked up Top Hunter and its actually a pretty damn cool game.
It's always good to see people pushing the neo geo's amazing sports games. As a long time NBA Jam fan, I think I like Street Slam more now. It feels like it has just a little more strategy in the gameplay and also has the bitchin soundtrack.
Rage of the Dragons is quickly becoming one of my favorite fighting games too. The game is just plain fun and controlls very well. The ridiculous air juggling combos are so damn satisfying!
Great video! Enjoying the Neo Geo Mini after getting it on sale. A new world is open.
Glad to hear it. Enjoy!
Ahhh....Cyber-lip. I can remember it like yesterday...thats the very first time I've ever seen a Big Red out in the wild. It was at a 7-11 in the summer time and I was instantly hooked on the NG from that day...good memories😀
The first Neo Geo game you played does tend to standout for sure, especially on those big reds. I’m impressed your 7-11 had a Neo. I’m struggling to remember if ours had any machines at all.
Super baseball 2020 is another overlooked game I think, hardly anyone ever mentions it and its very fun to play. Baseball stars 2 usually overshadows it.
For sure BS2 is the definitive game on Neo. I like SB2020 as well, I talked about it briefly for my NYE video.
Honestly, I believe Top Hunter is so overlooked & underrated, it needs its own standalone video. If you want me to help you with the video, I’ll gladly provide my own commentary & 2-cents for a future video (that is if you’re interested).
I'd agree, I've been trying to think of ways of how to handle a video on one game. A simple review just seems boring to me and isn't something I'm interested in doing. Once I figure out a format I'll probably start with a few easy titles. Thanks for your offer to assist, if I get that far.
@@ScarletSprites No problem! If in case you need help finding any of the bonus stages, I can help, too. I know practically ALL the secrets in this game--and that's not even counting it's Cutting Room Floor page!
Thanks for sharing! Never heard of those games but I'll try them out😊
Nice, I was hoping people would find a few things that may pique their interest.
I think you and John covered tons of good underrated ones. I personally have a soft spot for the King of the Monsters franchise. Completely different games, the 1 and 2nd, but both are worth a good run through or vs action
Thanks man! I played through the first about six months ago and struggled a bit with my attention span, to be honest. The second just seems so much better to me. I know both of those have their fans though and we’re fairly common to see in the arcade back in the day.
Awesome thank you now I can dig through my list of NEO-GEO games on my Jail Broken PS3
Strikers 1945 Plus is my jam. Those dino death screams in Prehistoric Isle 2 can suck it, though.
The screams in that game are equivalent to “bonus” in Blazing Star imo. A hack that removes those would be welcomed.
LOVE Top Hunter. Glad it got an honorable mention. Solid list!
I think Top Hunter has a pretty decent following, which is why I didn’t put it on the list but felt it still needed called out. The art style on that is SO 90s.
Scarlet Sprites SO 90s!! Haha
I love Street Slams. Even tho it's a broken unbalanced mess (if you had the ball no one could really steal it from you) the music is awesome in there. I need to play Street Slams 95 one of these days.
It definitely has one of the most ridiculous team selection screen melodies. I find myself humming it for at least an hour after playing.
Stellar list. Feeing your pain re’ the haircut woes too. I see someone in the street with neat, freshly cut hair and I’m like how?, who?, where?...show me...??
Next life I’m marrying a hair stylist or masseuse.
Scarlet Sprites haha a wise move
God I have such a love hate relationship with you and your channel! You are single handedly responsible for my MVS collecting addiction!... And I thank you!
Good, let the hate flow through you as you buy that next inevitable game.
I really appreciate your selection, nice work sir.
Personally, I’d have dropped out Cyber Lip and BBSP for Zupapa! and Super Sidekicks 2 but as you say; each to their own 👍🏻
Since John already had Zupapa! on his list I didn’t add it to mine, I picked the next ten beyond that. It’s funny because I almost picked Sidekicks 2 over Baseball Stars Pro. That confirmed for me though exactly what I said, Baseball Stars Pro is ALWAYS overlooked or passed on.
Scarlet Sprites I’ve crossed referenced John’s list now 👍🏻
Just between us, yours is better 😉
Haha to be fair, there are a handful on his I probably would have added to mine as well (definitely Shock Troopers). His list forced me to do a slightly deeper dive which I was happy to do.
Just found the channel. Like the content and your narration style. Subscribed!
Thanks Paul, welcome!
7:53 “an MST3K of shooters”
There would have been a front sprite HUD layer of a row of chairs with Joel/Mike, Crow, and Tom Servo while they ridicule you as you progress through the gameplay. Also, cutscenes between levels of the shorts that transition through a series of doors as the camera traverses through the Satellite of Love
Would be an amazing feature for any game but especially this. I would love that.
Really good choice of underrated games - maybe Rage of the Dragons and Robo Army are well known and good rated.
Yes, it’s in part subjective but really it was just to call out some additional titles beyond what John did. Thanks for the kind remark.
I'm a old school neo geo guy I had the system when nobody else had one back in the day. I'm just trying to figure out how the hell you didn't mention 8 man... that's a game that's visually impressive and fast paced and fun!
I briefly considered it but ultimately it just didn’t make the cut. I’ve played through it a handful of times and it just doesn’t do for me what a lot of the other titles do. It’s not a bad game, but I do think it’s a little repetitive and the running sequences are the same each time. So not bad overall, but maybe makes the cut for a part 2.
@@ScarletSprites That's your opinion, But I highly disagree. In my opinion 8 man is one of the most fun games on the system. Your wife would of loved it. I played it with my wife and we had a ball. You also forgot to mention viewpoint! Another gem! People dont really know much about! Anyway I loved neo geo it's in my top 5 systems I've ever owned. I was the only kid in my neighborhood with one lol.. my house was the go to place back then. Amazing system..
OHHH!!!, NEO GEO FULLSET , IT'S MY DREAM
LMAO at the shout out. I'm digging your list with the exception of Strikers. That game literally bores me to sleep. But I know a lot of people love it to death. Good stuff!
It’s repetitive, I’m with you on that. I did want to call it out for the pseudo-TATE layout. Don’t pretend that’s the ONLY game you didn’t like on that list either.
@@ScarletSprites haha. I gotta say, If I was making a 10 underrated list, Sengoku would be on that list. The first game. Awesome music, awesome atmosphere and cool scaling from the background to foreground. However the hit detection is total trash. Great game though.
Doesn't it sound wierd that you are not a fighting fan but a huge fan of a console who is 1/3 fighting games?
I think it’s often unfortunate people associate fighting games with Neo Geo because there’s a lot to love outside of that. I often wonder about what could have been had the fighting game craze not hit at that time.
@@ScarletSprites indeed. But it is still a fact that one third of the Games are fighting. Which is not a bad thing just a strange thing in Your case.
Prehistoric isle 2 is really underrated. Street hoop is my favorite game but it's pretty famous. Great video 👍✔️
Thanks man. Out of curiosity where are you from?
@@ScarletSprites italy!
Nice, I love that Neo brings people from all over the world together. I kind of guessed you were maybe in Europe based on your comment about Street Hoop. Someone from England mentioned the same thing about its popularity. In the US it just wasn’t that big of a game in the arcade.
@@ScarletSprites oh I see. Good to know. Here it was a classic. I think we played more sports and best&up and less the shmups. Oh and feel free to subscribe to my micro channel 😁😁
Holy crap I just finished Cyber-Lip. That was a deep twist at the end! I was not ready for it, specially for an early 90s arcade quarter muncher.
Right!? Not bad, especially back then. I can imagine that was a stunner after pumping all those quarters into it at the time, lol.
@@ScarletSprites Tell that to Prehistoric Isle as well XD
That ProAm game looks like fun. And yeet Abubo! And quarantine hair. I got mine cut yesterday. Robo Army looks tight too. This is a helpful guide. I was unfamiliar with almost all of these....
Best get rolling on that Neo Mini you picked up for $30 that’s now costing you $75.
Right?! The cord I ordered arrives Monday 😑
Excellent list. I've never played any of these and now I'm itching even more to own an MVS cabinet.
That Robot Army game looks especially tight.
It was one of the first carts I picked up. At least one of the first ten or so. It was strange because I had remembered seeing it way back in the early 90s and had totally forgotten about it. You won’t test your mental capacity by playing it, but you will have fun.
Definitely a couple I’d go along with from your list (Robo Army, Ninja Commando, League Bowling) and a few that I’m yet to try including Baseball Stars Professional.
My earliest Neo Geo memory includes that game, alongside Magician Lord, NAM-1975 and Top Players Golf; my dad had taken me with him to a pub when I was a kid and left me with some change by an arcade machine which happened to be an MVS with those 4 games. I opted to play Magician Lord and when I had (quickly) run out of money I just stood for ages watching the 4 games cycling through their attract sequences until my dad came over to collect me. I’ve played Baseball Stars 2 several times but will have to give the first one a try for the nostalgia lol.
Ps - Shave the head! (I think you guys in the States call it a ‘buzz cut’?) I did mine about a month and a half ago now and am loving it haha!!
Right!? Magician Lord, Nam, Top Player's Golf, and Baseball Stars Prof. are all the OGs of the Neo Geo and always will be. Those are essentially the launch titles for the arcade when it first came out, although more came shortly there after. I've never been a fan of the buzz cut, I just can't do it. I will let it continue to shag and wear a hat if I have to until I can get this cut, lol.
Nice prank mid way in the video with RH. :P
Hiding Hero :D
good list...being born in Europe I would probably remplace baseball by a super sidekicks
I feel metal slug is so good, all run n gun (top or side view) are overlooked on the neogeo and should be played...
Yeah I can certainly understand the appeal of Super Sidekicks. I often watch arguments on which of the four is better. Most seem to prefer the second one it seems.
@@ScarletSprites I like 4 (ultimates11)
but I think there all good
Great list! I really like Alpha Mission II, so that's my pick for the Neo Geo.
I didn’t like that game initially but have since come to appreciate it a little more. I should revisit again this summer for a bit.
Neo Geo is a crazy good machine .. The games are timeless tbh
Agreed. A lot of classic arcade ingedients used to make these types of games. I enjoy the mindless fun most days.
Awesome list, I love 8Man and Spinmaster too
8Man almost made the list. I only skipped Spinmaster because John listed it previously.
I always though 8 man was a bit underrated. While it is not the best beatem up on the system, it is fun, and I never hear anyone talk about it.
I actually contemplated talking about that one. I had Sengoku 2 in front of it so I ultimately decided to shelve it, but it is for certain a game that gets overlooked.
I agree with your list and have most of those titles. I think I would add Magician Lord and ViewPoint. I love my Neo Geo MVS and hope to buy mvsx so I can get hack and have all the games. The prices for cartridges have gotten so expensive. 👍😎
Viewpoint is pretty fun AND aggravating. I’ve never beaten it.
@@ScarletSprites I've never come close to beating it but it sure looks good and is tuff. 👍😎🍿
Solid episode.. I feel proud that I both follow your channel for some time now. Would love to know more content Creator's take on this subject. Cheers from Spain!
I love the international appeal the Neo has. It’s been so great hearing from people all over the world lately, yourself included. Thanks for being a part of the channel and sharing!
@@ScarletSprites You're welcome! I do not own an AES but I own the mini.. I know you were critical about it but i am enjoying it! Arcade stick Pro is next to enjoy the fighting games more..There's just something unique about its animation and colors. Stay safe bro.
If you are enjoying it that’s all that matters. Glad you get to experience the games!
Neo drift has fantastic music LOVE IT ❤️
I do find myself playing NDO more often than Thrash Rally. I know the latter is “better”, but I just like the way the Celica is modeled in NDO. The music in each game is pretty decent. Can’t forget Overtop either.
I think Viewpoint is also a another game that is underrated that never got the attention that it deserved.
Killer 90s soundtrack too, good pick. A really tough game. I kept this one off only because of the port to Genesis and then the later enhanced version for Playstation.
Neo Turf Masters!!! One of the best sports games
Totally agreeeeeeeN!
I LOVE Top Hunter, highly recommended!
Totally agree 👍🏻
Great video!
I find Crossed Swords goes somewhat unnoticed to the masses. As is Matrimelee when it comes to fighting games. Money Puzzle Exchanger is another good casual puzzle game, despite the over-the-top anime graphics. I also find Pop N' Bounce to be a pretty good take on the Breakout genre. What do you think?
Damn, I've wanted Neo Drift Out forever. Thanks for reminding me.
I did consider Crossed Swords as well. I’ll admit that I don’t play it as much as the others on this list but that’s more personal preferences than anything.
How on earth do you get on with pop n bounce when the paddle moves so quickly?
It takes some getting used to, that’s or certain. There’s actually a dip switch setting that allows you to toggle between a controller and paddle, though to my knowledge I don’t think a paddle version of the game ever existed.
Scarlet Sprites that very interesting(I didn’t think to try the dip settings), I will now seek to purchase the cart again with this new information, hell ill may as well get myself the mvs kit cheers mate ;)
Interesting picks here my dude! I'm a little surprised to see Robo Army, Ninja Commando and Neo Drift Out here, I didn't think these would be considered underrated or overlooked. They're all fantastic, but perhaps I'm just not in tune with the general Neo Geo population. Cyber-Lip in my opinion deserves more credit than it gets. It's not perfect for sure, but it gets unfairly bashed upon. Everyone like to compare it to Metal Slug, but Cyber-Lip came out 6 years earlier during the same year the MVS was introduced so you can say, even with its flaws, that Cyber-Lip laid out the groundwork for what Metal Slug would eventually be.
If I had to pick a few titles that I feel are overlooked they would definitely be Top Hunter, Far East of Eden Kabuki Klash and Crossed Swords I & II. Top Hunter is awesome to play with a friend if you just want to chill, crack open a drink of your choice and just chat and play. Far East of Eden is, in my opinion, a great fighting game that's often overshadowed by the more mainstream KoF, Real Bout and Fatal Fury games. It's also got a killer soundtrack, especially on the CD version. Crossed Swords (both 1 and 2) are very interesting games that are hard to describe. Think of The Super Spy, but in fantasy medieval times with swords and magic and you can see the top half of your character as a see-through wire frame. They're very fun to play and are pretty unique in their own right, I hardly ever see people talk about them. What do you think of the games I picked? Would they fall into the category of "overlooked" or nah?
LOL. That Riding Hero bit.
Had to.
Great video, now it seems you’ve got another cart to add to the collection!
I may have a lead on that!
Hey man the Beatles called and want their hair back
They can gladly have it!
@Travis Edwards oh
great list, really brings u back to the 90s style arcade scene
These games are undeniably early 90s, the cheese and presentation style alone exude it. Get ready to mash buttons.
@@ScarletSprites one of the games shown sounded like they used same sounds from ninja combat 🤣
I actually managed to get a 300 game on league bowling, probably one of the 5 people that played it enough to do that
That is awesome! I’m not even sure what my top score is but I now have a new goal.
Neodrift out is a favourite.
Nice humble brag about actually having hair, lol! Great list! Haven’t heard of some of these and kinda wanna try Ninja Commando (for the name alone) and Street Slam now.
Is he a Ninja? Is he a Commando? He’s BOTH! It’s almost like a bad 80s action film title. It would star Chuck Norris of course.
Thanks for the list. Also, how can anyone hate on Rage of the Dragons? It's not my favorite fighter but I would lying if I said that it wasn't a solid game. It's a hidden gem amoung it's genre.
I just like knowing it’s Double Dragon II with a major face lift. Jimmy and Billy never looked so good. The rights to this have recently changed hands and the inheriting company says they are planning to do something with the IP.
@@ScarletSprites Doesn't arc system works own the rights?
SNK love twisted endings: Cyber-Lip, Search & Rescue...
S&R is a good call out. I’ve really only played that on the SNK Collection for Switch, missed that one in the arcades.
Cyber-Lip reminds me CONTRA with Blade Runner style.
Yeah it’s a cool theme. It’s just such a shame you can’t shoot 8-ways.
@@ScarletSprites And the character runs a little bit slow.
The version of prehistoric Isle looks different. I have a health bar and unlimited continues.... You seem to start with 4 continues and have lives instead of health. Am I correct? :P
Are you playing the original and not the sequel on Neo Geo?
@@ScarletSprites Oh sry I wasn't clear I was playing the sequel.... on the 161 in 1 to be honest.... but still it looks different
I’m gonna check these out 👌🏼
The game I tried out recently was sonic wings 2 and I never have played it before and it was so fun. It might be one of my favorite neo geo shmups besides blazing star and last resort.
And you can play as a Dolphin who flys a plane. What's better than that?
Scarlet Sprites I need to try ninja commando and league bowling. I have heard of league bowling and I bet it is a lot of fun. Ninja commando looks right up my alley.
Rage of the Dragons is a solid choice for this list. Unique gameplay with great graphics. Being I have an AES, this title imo made the purchase price of the NEOSD bearable.
Yeah $400 for the NeoSD is far from cheap. That said, once you’ve bought a few carts you’ve probably already surpassed that. Definitely a system where knowing what your goals are (collecting vs playing vs combo) upfront really helps with planning.
Great list.
Your hair doesn't look too bad, it lools like the prerty boy hair stylt from the mid-2000s. My lockdown hair looks like an anime messy spikey hairstyle which makes my friends amd family go WTF.
I thought it was funny and I wanted the hair documented for the coming years. You’ll likely see a hat from now on until it gets cut, lol. I think I’d prefer the spikey look. I had that going on for a while but it’s just too long to stand up now. Even my hair is just plain tired.
Great list. I am going to check some of these out. I never played prehistoric isle 2, I am gunna fire up the neo sd tonight and try it out
Do you like the way the announcer yells “bonus” in Blazing Star? If so, you’ll love hearing repeated dinosaur screams in PhI2!
@@ScarletSprites ha I actually dont mind that.
@@ScarletSprites just beat it. What a fantastic game.
Every time I watch this channel I go to eBay & look at AES consoles but I’m so unsure about making the dive. I’d go with a flash cart if I ever did pull the trigger but still all that is close to $1,000.00
The NeoSD will run you for $400 alone. You can probably grab a consolized MVS for $200 or so if you’re willing to go the AliExpress route. I’d start with an consolized MVS and a cheaper game that’s fun like Metal Slug. See if you like it and then either buy another “cheap” game or start saving for the NeoSD.
Scarlet Sprites Are the consolized MVS’s reliable? I’ve heard mixed things, seems like the newer units are much better though?
You ever see that Seinfeld episode in which he got that haircut? That's you that is lol.
Seriously however. Another great video.
The hair was so bad that I selfishly wanted it documented for myself for the future. Hats from here on out!
I can barely wait to get a real haircut. "Lockdown.....What did I do wrong?"
Awesome list, now I’m going to try them all lol
Yes! Let me know if you like any of them or completely wasted your time, lol.
Great video. Hats off to you!
Next video it will literally be hats on.
@@ScarletSprites I only after reading a comment about your haircut now get why you said that. I didn't mean to imply any mockery towards you, just FYI. I didn't notice your hair looking bad IMO. I was speculating you were referring to buying a VR (when you mentioned hats on) kit to add and connect to your impressive collection of gaming hardware. Now I get it. Be grateful you are young, healthy, and not bald. Not like there's anything wrong with that! I hope you are well. Thank you for your content.
A brutally underrated game for the neo geo is the zed blade and top hunter for sure, also i dont hear a lot about spin master which is a solid game !
I skipped Zed Blade and Spinmaster because John talked about them on his list. Spinmaster in particular I’ve always liked.
@@ScarletSprites Yeah but in all honesty John Riggs is actually a nes freak and doesnt have a connection with the neo world as you do.
Your quarantine hairstyle looks more stylish than my post-$50-haircut.
I really feel bad for you if true, because this was essentially a joke. You’d be better off just buzzing your head if that’s the case, save $50, and buy a new game instead.
Alien Vs. Predator over the right shoulder, oh yeah.
Great list! My personal list in no particular order.
Baseball Stars 1 and 2
League Bowling
Neo Turf Masters
Rage of Dragons
WindJammers
Mutation Nation
Last Resort
Ah shit, who am I fooling my list has dozens of games lol.
It’s is incredibly difficult to go with just ten, even after John listed there first twelve.
I like Ninja Masters, Kizuna Encounter and Breakers Revenge
The Breakers games were a real pleasant surprise to me. Definitely some off the radar titles.
I have the Neo Geo CD version of Ninja Commando, such a good game
It's pretty fun with two players, I love working through that while just chatting with a friend.
It amazes me how many game channels never mention eightman. Unbelievable.
Because I didn’t feel that it belonged on this particular list. It’s certainly been mentioned in the past.
@@ScarletSprites I see
Was "Riding Hero" an expensive buy or no? (don't play that game...lol I never heard of it)
that would suck if if a really bad game was expensive because of rarity....... : (
It’s not especially rare thankfully. Nothing Neo Geo is especially cheap though either. I’d highly recommend simply emulating that one.
I would recommend checking out The Super Spy. The sprite work is incredible and the soundtrack slaps.
It was pretty great seeing that run on a machine bitd. Instant wow factor and coin stealer.
Pretty good list.
Love Rage of the Dragons. Didn’t the IP just get picked up?
Yes it did! They said they have plans for it too. Hopefully more Jimmy and Billy Lee-wis on the way!
Haha i know a vulcan when I see one! 🖖 Great vid. We need more Mr and Mrs sprites
It’s brutal. You’ll be seeing a hat from here on out.
@@ScarletSprites haha your not alone! I've got lego hair! 💪 Really enjoy your channel by the way, thanks for entertainment
Great response Scarlet!
Thanks Linda 🙏🏻
I love all the games in your list, seems we have similar taste. This is one of your best videos btw. A little bit unscripted and spoken from the heart it seems. Sidenote; todd is an a-hole, have had personal beef with him for some years now ;). Stay healthy Joe (your name IS Joe, right?)!
Haha, yes my name is Joe. Glad you liked the video, it actually was a fairly easy one to do. The ones that you enjoy and are excited about generally are though.
Let’s Bowl!
Yes!
ack, league bowling is expensive dammit :( .... I have Rage and Double Dragon carts, I like'em both...jeesh I got my Big Red back in 2007 and bought a whole wack of carts on ebay and local classifieds for on avg 30-50 dollars cdn per cart (although Strikers was 100.00, guy said it still made money on locations)...NOW, even lousy games are all over 100.00 CDN on ebay.
That’s funny because I probably started collecting carts around that very same time. I haven’t looked at League Bowling in a while but assumed it wouldn’t have gone up too much. I should have known better. I’ve noticed Neo carts that have crept in price just in the last two or three years.
@@ScarletSprites theres only one League Bowling available currently at 196.00 CDN
I thought it'd be cheap as well, I think its more a comment on the rising values and perhaps seller delusions?
That is for sure happening too; people listing things at ridiculous prices and then just waiting things out for months. Sometimes it’s easier to just pick carts up off of forums or FB groups.
Riding Hero is great. Needs more love. It was my first Neo Geo game that I played at an arcade along with Metal Slug.
This is a great list!
Thanks man, I did my best thinking about the next ten after John’s list.
A new look to start the new month right Scarlet. Very nice. You're styling and profiling bro. 8^)
I posted this up on the Neo-Geo thread on Atariage.com for you. It's on post #22,694 for you to view. Thank you as always bro. Great list of games and are always enjoyable in my book.
Anthony...
Thanks man. I don’t know about stylin’ but it is what it is at this point.
I don't disagree with most of the list but. Rage of the Dragons is not on my top 10 or 20. Or maybe top 30.
I bought RotD from ng.com new back in the day. Even made a Shock Box insert for it.
But after playing it for too many hours, I finally came to the conclusion that, no, I really just don't like RotD.
I must be a terrible person.
Just for the record, Last Blade 2 is my favorite NeoGeo fighting game... and my favorite Neo Geo game overall. TSS would be a very close second. LB2 is the one I come back to and the one I have spent the most time with on my old Super Gun, then my Neo cab, and now my Mister.
I feel like this must be Todd’s burner account.
(Last Blade 2 is undoubtedly awesome. No surprise there that that’s your favorite fighter on the system.)
@@ScarletSprites can we at least agree TSS is awesome? 🤣
Oh for sure!
Neo Bomberman
Riding Hero, lol.
Terrible.
Phew, Shinoken wasn't on this list. That would require an abundant lack of taste, picking that in an overlooked Neo-Geo game list. That game deserves to be overlooked. Just walk past it slowly and calmly, but don't make eye contact.
Right, I’m much more of a Fight Fever fan myself. 😏
That Justin Bieber hair style though.
It was a low point of 2020 I wanted to capture forever.
Lettttts bowl!
Classic!