I filled my mountain bike brakes with baby oil for a year and here are the results!
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- A little over a year ago we filled the rear hydraulic brake of my fat tire mountain bike with baby oil, instead of Shimano Brake oil. Now over a year later, we're going to tear apart the brakes and look at all the most vulnerable components under a microscope to see if they degraded or changed in any way.
This video is just for entertainment, and I can't recommend that you fill your brakes with baby oil. With that said, this will always be the baby oil fat bike and it will always have baby oil in the brakes until they fail. Maybe it's time we name this bike...
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Now that this bike is permanently filled with baby oil, we need to name it!
first bro
The stroller
The FatBaby
Made with real babies
Name it Baby Fat.
Everyone’s still got some Baby Fat.
"I still don't see why you need to fill babies with oil" is my forever favourite line.
@@jim7300 bruh
Random AI haha I’m dying
Random AI
hol up
Lol I read this the same time he said it 😂
makes them float
Up next: "I used brake fluid on my baby for a year. Here's what happened"
Stopped crying! 😲
Tastier than formula milk
😂🤣
R.I.P baby! 😂💩🤣
leukemia? Alzheimer? Authisme? Bernie Sanders supporter? Tell me sounds fun!
As a scientist, I'm impressed that you repeatedly outlined the shortcomings of this as an investigation. Well done! Don't often see that sort of self awareness on the internet!
Cool
So long as you don't demand science in the motorcycle oil forum, you'll have pitchforked angry bikers after you. Hahahaha
Seth: "I still don't know why you need to fill babies with oil"
Me watching after he announced that he has a baby
I’ve been waiting so long to see the results finally it’s here
Agreed.
Jack Tn you’ve waited a year
Me2
What about DOT 3 brake fluid?
Jack Tn just abt to say that
Seth: Makes a year long test and concludes there is no real reason to not buy proper brakes oil.
Also Seth: *refills brake with baby oil*
Pretty sure it's really like Seth "It works, but I am not leaving any way for anybody to sue me."
@@JoshKablack exactly what i said when I watched this video.
MC SwaggerFlagger maybe a longterm test like 5 yrs
He thinks it works fine so he wants to still try it for a longer period of time to see differences with specialized oils. He doesn't want to tell his followers baby oil works fine just because he is not 100% sure and doesn't want people blaming at him for doing so and having excessive wear or an accident.
The reason being Shimano brake fluid here costs $18 for 1 liter jug. And you cannot get smaller quantity. 1) It's stupidly expensive for mineral oil. 2) What the hell am I gonna do with 1 L when brake system takes what....30-40 mL? No way I'm gonna bleed my brakes 20 times in my bike's lifetime.
When I rode trials, alot of us ran our magura hs33's on water, or water with a drop of anti freeze in winter. It made the breaks less spongy, more responsive, and lighter to pull. You'd get about a year out of the seals, but most trials riders broke a lever or something before then and had to get a new brake anyway! I'd be more than happy to use baby oil in a pinch :)
Doesn't some manufactures also use special breakfluids that are basically water with anti freeze and of course some othe viscosity reagents? Like for example SRAM. They normally perform as well as hydrolic breaks with oil. But of course they can freeze and that means they are a bit more sensible to low degrees(The brakes may not work or the water expands below 4 °C and this may damage the tubes). But on higher temperatures water does not expand as much as oil...
I remember doing the same....But I just used anti freeze as it was more common at home than distilled water. I used to grease the pistons from the outside every now and then and seals lasted forever....I also remember scratching and adding waterproofing the rim so it was sticky to the pads. But down slopes the question was what to sacrifice: the hebo shoes or the new brake pads.
i dont even own a bike
why is this on my recommended
Lil Cumstain because it’s interesting
Because you're a Lil Cumstain...
It's also about mechanisms and diy and crafts
Same
And I dont own a baby too...
Been waiting a year for this
Me too man, me too.
World of RANDOM aye
Waiting since last decade
Ba dum tsss
@@microMobilidade No
Same
I filled my daughter with baby oil and now I'm just waiting on the results
you will need a second child full of regular oil as a control subject.
Tell us if her seals changed
Slice them in half
@@alexanderwanner4360 arrrrrrggggggggg
@@bananasstuff3344 ARGH
What you’re saying makes sense, some folk talk like you’re missing out by not doing this, but you’ve given a fair balanced view of “yeah it’ll probably be fine, but just use the recommended brake oil.” Good experiment, saves me ever having to try it for myself!
"And only the rear had DaBaby oil in it"
4:56
My man in 4k
"And once you get them spinning, they sound like TIE fighters." So true.
And get you sounding like Darth Vader going up a hill aswell.
Or crying babies
@@JL-cn1qi Only when you aren't fit.
After 600 mile in year with Fatbike then next year 1200 mile and all up hills was like ease.
Massive duh for me, I was wondering how they could sound like Thai fighters.
Idiot.
@@mr.wizeguy8995 1200 miles in a year? Is that supposed to be impressive?
I deal with hydraulic systems in my everyday job and honestly aside from viscosity most hydraulic oils are very similar whether that be mineral oils or "true hydraulic oils". Love the vids!
Seals and oils must be compatible, or the oils will slowly(or rapidly) soften and expand the seals... and fail at a bad time(usually). What works for a tractor's hydraulics might not work well in cycle brakes, fork oil, differential lube, etc.
There's a reason why there are so many different lube formulations, and it's not about making more money(for the vast majority of lubes). It's about application and compatibility.
Sure, you can cheap out on maintenance, but why would you do that on something that keeps you out of the trees?
@@skytower309 brakes don't matter on bikes cranes and trucks only matter if someone's asking
@@tomlamb3885 What?
@@tomlamb3885 Huh?
@@tomlamb3885 you've obviously never had to walk a panel
Shimano: releases expensive mineral oil for brakes
Johnson & Johnson: "I'll destroy this guy career"
lol
cutthroat competition hahaha
Wife: Hey hun, where's the baby oil for our chil-
Husband: VRRRRRRRRRRRR *drives away*
I I lmao
Zepix bbx frigen STOPPIES away
As a bicycle mechanic for roundabout 10years I tested the same thing with various liquids. Baby Oil was one of my favorites. I started this after a colleague of mine was telling the story of him riding through Africa with a HS33 and no proper oil within a 300mile radius. So he just used water. Aslong as the temps are fine you can use almost any liquid that doesnt dissolve your seals.
Or use a brake that does not require any type of oil inside: stainless steel cable brake.
@@andrelange9877 ...or walk.
Or stay at home
@@twinsturbo3911 And watch others doing it on RUclips.
^ This is RUclips, that kind of talk belongs to Reddit.
Hilarious and informative as always.
Good to know that there's a potentially viable alternative for bike brake oil in the event that the zombie apocalypse happens and we need to get creative to service our bikes.
I was waiting for this video one year..it was a long time, but it finally came. 😅😂 thanks for the information 🤘
Did that 10 years ago on my MTB and never changed it since - works perfectly.
really? can we change it shimano original hydraulic oil without clear?
Yep, back in the day I used straight mineral oil in my Shimano setups with no issues. Also have run Magura blood in my shimano without a problem. Lots of MTBR and PinkBike discussion back in the early 2000s about baby oil having additional stuff in it that might damage your seals, collect moisture, or boil off.
@@dsb1829 so let's use Shimano oil in the babies because baby oil is too danger to those Shimano components haha
@@dsb1829 the branded ones are most likely 99% mineral oil. I also have a large bottle of pure mineral oil. Cleans my guitars and fluid for my brakes. never bought another shimano branded oil
recommended refilling/fullreplacement period? My concerns are about... maybe.. a part of hight temperature exposed (touching caliper) oil could be degraded a bit each time this occurs...maybe
“Why do we need to fill babies with oil?” - Seth 2020
Jonah Larson or 2018
Idiot. Baby oil is made *from* babies, not *for* babies.
Nice
Now that Seth is a dad, are we ever going to get an answer if brake oil is safe for babies?
I’m pretty sure every time he asks that question, his wife has chained him to his workbench away from the baby, brake oil and the cameras until he looses the idea and begins on something else, where the cycle begins again.
(I’m looking at you April fools day, don’t give him any ideas!)
Extremely safe! The same oil is used in alcohol-free perfumes and Avon Skin so Soft all over the world without harm and the perfume ingredients have been tested to death and any with a slight question mark have been outlawed.
Great video. 👍 I been wondering about this for about 20 plus years , back to the magura rim brake days.
Hey Seth! I had a great idea and was waiting for your new video! You should make a Berm Creek “dedication” piece on Berm Peak! It would be so cool! You could do the drama drop and maybe create a better “Janky wall ride!” Just an idea!
Dude I would also love if Seth would do that that would be so cool
ian metzger I know! It would be so cool
Yesss it would be so sick
You gotta do it seth
Amazing idea
Seth posting is alway a good time
Mullet Moore right
No alcohol required
Nice
Your experiments - and videos are GREAT! No wonder you’re da man of RUclips. Thanks.
😄😄😄here's another post I really enjoyed watching and laughing at, you really got this one dialed Seth, you always host each and every post perfectly well! 👌🏻👍🏻🙋🏻♂️
I was kind of hoping for another trail build but this is still dope.
Totally dope
Cade Cochran same
Shit weather in NC for building lately...
@Bennybass I'm the opposite lol. I really don't care about the trail build. The garage was great for me. And I liked the things like his trip to Key West or finding the broken walmart bike. But I'm really here for what his channel says on the tin.
Last time I was this early Seth’s videos were age restricted
Alex Grant I remember that😂😂
@@oliversutton2266 Can you explain? Im very new here
Zafryl Aiman homie used to swear like a sailor 😂
Alex Grant it’s still age restricted, I can’t watch this when I am on my home wifi
I can't find any videos where he swears, can you guys please link one?
Exactly what I needed to know and I enjoyed the video. Thank you!
I had the same idea with my tractor's hydraulic system, so I researched it. Proper oils will usually include rust inhibitors and detergents so that they'll cope better with any water contamination that gets into the system. This is honestly a lot more likely on a car or tractor where the reservoirs have lids that just open by hand. Tractors even have quick disconnects to remove front loaders etc, so they're way more likely to get contamination in the oil. On a bike the system is sealed and there's really no reason to require special additives in the oil.
Thanks Seth for resisting the temptation to simply say all the hydraulic brake manufacturers are ripping us off - this is a nuanced (and entertaining) view.
While I'm not going to experiment with my braking system to save (maybe) a few bucks a year, it's good to know if my hydraulic brakes have a problem while I'm bikepacking and I come across a town with no open bike shops, I can get by with baby oil in one brake without any immediate obvious consequences.
Joke a side is a useful tip in case we simply can not find original brake oil specially in weekends (saturday & sunday) when most shops are closed and anyone are free from work..
New tiefighter voice actor revealed
I don’t even own a bicycle, but I watched the whole video. And I swear I could smell baby oil as I was watching it 🤔 I have to say that I enjoyed this video and I also have to give you (or your team) credit for the camera footage and editing. This is a very well put together show. Netflix quality 😎👍🏼 thanks for the entertainment.
I waited a whole year for this vidio 💀💀 I was so hyped for it and I diddnt get let down❤️
I love these kind of projects where you test something over a period of time. Do more like that. And as always, the video was perfect! keep up the good work
seth : imma wait a whole year
people : *STARTS DOING HEAVY RESEARCH AND FINALLY DISCOVERING IT IS SOMEWHAT UNNECESSARY*
"Brakes", "Baby", and "Oil" are no longer words
That’s called Semantic Satiation. Its a very weird phenomenon. You say a word enough times, and it loses all meaning.
“I still don’t understand why you have to fill your baby with oil”
😂😂
I’ve been waiting so long for this.
Not sure if you’ve already done this hack, but a great alternative to one of the metal nubs at the end of your shift cable is a small cut of heat shrink tubing. Love your videos!
Thanks,thats clever,hate those crimp ons when you can even get them
Love listening to this guy
That was the first time watching one of your videos and I understand he was not recommending baby oil as a substitute but I really enjoyed your video and how you explain everything and then I got a kick out of the last clip that you posted on this video keep it up you’re making me have a better day and thank you for making this video
I was sick today but Seth uploading made my day!
Hi Seth. Great channel. Always entertaining. Maybe you can do a "Viscosity" test between different mineral brake oils? Like a drip test or something like it to compare viscosities? Johnson's baby oil has a baby oil lite which is less viscous so it will defiinitely have a different effect.
Thanks... I have a shop and I have been in situations where I could not get recommended brake oils. So I went shop to shop looking for baby oils with mineral oil content. In this country, you cannot find them!!! And unlike the USA where you can buy mineral oil in many stores, it seems people have never heard of it here! So in my search, I found Vaseline Hair Tonic (Blue) to have the maximum amount of mineral oil... I used it to top-up and it worked like a charm. I still keep it as spare. But now I have plenty of recommended mineral oil at hand AND I just ordered a lot of "cutting board" mineral oil to use as a substitute!
Thanks for the video... I have no doubt that baby oil with the highest percentage of mineral oil will work just fine. But as you say if it may not pass some tests, specifically because of concentration (percentage) of mineral oil.
Automatic transmission fluid.
I promise you can probably get it in any nation that has cars.
Alternatively, go to a place that repairs heavy equipment. Ask for tellus 32. They’ll probably give you a gallon for free.
I just want to say that i personally did this the same day i saw seth upload the original baby oil video and followed along with my amazon zoom brakes (shimano SLX clines). Im happy to announce that even the amazon brakes have no problem with baby oil now 4 years later
I've been running Johnson's finest in my Shimanos for months now with no obvious problems. This idea saved my day when I found myself needing a refill miles from the nearest open bike shop and I haven't seen a reason to change it since. Thanks for the great bike hack Seth!
how is it after 4 years ? did you face any problems so far ?
thanks in advance
@@waleedassaf1836 eventually changed brakes as caliper where leaking a bit but they where very old. The baby oil seemed fine, would use again if needed.
@simonhorsfield2436 Thanks for the feedback .I'll go for it 😊
People thinking ow he must have kids. But no he fills his brakes with it. I also watched star wars and the tyres do sound like tie fighters.
Max don’t you mean tye fighters?
He means Thia fighters like from Thailand
@@maj2809 wo that is pretty far
I thought they sounded more like an f1 car
v1d300 I know it was a joke if he is going to spell tires with a y he should spell tie fighter with y.
I done mine with crisp and dry. 2 years later still great.
Great informational video of a brake oil hack. Nice Diamondback ride..
I don’t think I have ever not hit the like button on Seth’s vids keep it up bro love the work
You are so creative Seth I can’t believe what you can come up with! Ps your videos are so good and I miss the new vids every week so that is why every time you upload I am one of the first
I was in a pinch and used what i had, 'transmission fluid' in my Magura disc brakes. its thicker which makes it more work to bleed. But works just fine. Zero problems.
I've been running pure Mineral Oil (the non-baby formula) for years now, and will say that it holds up as well as name brand brake fluid. But with 1 major caveat. If you're going down a long hill and just riding your brakes, the Mineral Oil does get spongier faster, but I've had Metallic pads loose their friction coefficient and the rotor get red hot even before the brakes became really spongey.
Yes, the name brand stuff will last longer, but depending on your riding habits, the Mineral oil off the shelf vs brand name stuff might not even make a difference. But even then, I feel Mineral Oil can be had for so much cheaper than the brand name stuff, that you could probably replace the fluid at least 100 times with mineral oil before getting close to spending the same amount on the brand name stuff.
Personally, I've gone through about half of a 16oz (473ml) bottle of Mineral oil at $2, exchanging the fluid pretty much every other month. At that rate, it's still way cheaper than the brand name stuff that usually sells 100ml for $10 or more.
The thing is: 100ml bottles of Shimano oil cost 10$
1l containers cost about 15 to 20$.
It seems you pay more for the packaging process then for the actual content.
So if you buy large enough quantities, the price gets very low too.
And even then: you can spend 30-60$ on a dropper lever, 10-30$ on grips and so on... 10-20$ for brake oil isn't that big of a deal.
But then again, if other stuff works fine for you, save money if you think it's worth it.
You're changing your brake fluid six times a year? Is the fluid breaking down under heavy usages?
I have a big jug of Food grade mineral oil I will be using...don't need stinking overpriced "special" oils that cost 10X more! Hydrolics is a simple concept...a bike system never gets as hot as astoping a 2 ton car!
At some point, the added confidence in a company that developed its own brake fluid is worth paying a few dollars more for, and taking a few less stops at the coffee shop in a year to compensate.
The branded oil contains about 0.001% of a red dye. That's it.
Good to know that it can be used as an alternative :)
I’ve been waiting for this forever
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!
A few months ago I ended up doing this. Works just as fine as Shimano mineral oil, exactly the same!!
its insane how far seths channel has come, I remember watching his "how to bunny hop" tutorial about 3 years ago now
Hey Seth got my full sus on Christmas loving the vids
I put dot 4 heavy duty in my shimano r785 discs brakes a year ago when I installed them new not knowing they took a special brake fluid and they have been working great!
love your videos
I love seths face when he mtbs 😂🤣
I've topperd off my brakes with culinary quality mineral oil, and do full bleeds with the real bike oil. Works fine. I get 1 gallon of oil for the same price as 2 tiny bottles of Shimano.
loved that end!
The ending is so hillarious 😂
As a bonus, your hands are really soft after the procedure.
True
when i had a rusty big box store mtb, the front derailleur was failing to shift to the highest gear so i lubed it up with baby oil and voila but it made a weird sound for some reason but it went away in a couple of days
name it big baby
nice video...love the T-fighter-sound
I did that yesterday I'm going to test it now. if it takes care of the babies for sure it will take good care of my seals. UPDATE: the same performance as the original one, no difference in a long steep downhill
Give us a monthly update lol
Any updates on this?
@@Cloudrak works perfectly fine, tested downhill
Is there any Update? ☺️
please any updates ? like after a year of use ? is it still good ?
Yes we get to see it
I actually ran pharmacy mineral oil in my brakes a while ago. It does NOT work for cold conditions as the temp. drops the viscosity goes up a lot and it meant that my brakes be hard to pull and once pulled would stay there. Definitely sketchy. Replacing with real stuff immediately fixed the issue.
The exact same thing happened to me
I going to try TRW mineral oil for cars, tractors, etc.
been waiting for this! haha.
MORE VIDS! WE MISS YOU!
Sound Like Tie Fighters! 😂
Good way to start the decade😂
I love useful hacks, some riders find water better...
love your shop, wow e ooo
When I get a deep cut on hands I put break oil. It immediately stops bleeding and prevent infection. I work with glass a lot.
I was just watching the vid of when you filled up your Break with baby oil 😂
hahahahahahhaahah
This guys crazy on that bike. Man dude your rippin on that thing.
loved that ending
Bike name
Fat baby
Coz it’s a fat bike and uses baby oil
I know I am creative
Baby bike
Better than thicc baby the the bike is thicc
Big fat colossal baby
*Clicks show more*
*Reads this monstrosity of a comment*
*Clicks show less and scrolls on*
nice
I've been using ordinary pharmacy mineral oil in my shimano xtr since 2014 and it is still doing great..... no issues at all
Can you assist me please?
Loose vent screw and I have lost the oil from rear break. Filled with baby oil and it's working. In my country Shimano oil is 12 $ for 100 ml. Thanks for the video.
Youre my life saver, believe me i thought theres a problem with my XPARK Hydraulic brake rear ever since i bought it and I thought it need to bleed it... Ive research tru fb bike pages that XPARK Hydraulic brakes are should be replace another brand, a new one* actually ive already purchase online the ZOOM HB875 Hydraulic front & rear Brake. But i saw this Vlog, i tried putting baby oil and walah! IT WORKS my Rear brakes is doing fine now..
Thank you very much and GOD Bless! 🙂
It's been in my KTM magura hydraulic clutch for a year with no ill affects at all
Might aswell when Seth is making this video. He can also show us how to take the Explosive of the brakes.
Thai fighter best description of sound I have ever heard. Awesome
Nice job Seth!
I'd like to see how both baby oil and brake fluid would react relative to each other when subjected to a vacuum.
Also what temps they both boil at sea level.
Next video: What if you use brake oil for babies
This is why chemistry is awesome. All those what ifs and maybes gone.
I've got 29x2.60 on my bike and they sound like a swarm of angry bee's when I get up to about 30mph...love it 🙃
I have the similar brakes on my 10kw electric bike (Simano M395 but the colour is white) and I have been using rapeseed oil in them going on 5 years now. Never had an issue, and the stopping power is just as good. I'm sure that almost everybody will have some sort of cooking oil in their kitchen somewhere. I did this at first as an emergency as I never had any of the proper mineral oil, but after using it for a while with no noticeable decrease in stopping power, I just kept on using it. I would say that this method may even be the cheapest way to obtain brake oil.😁
Vegetal oil sounds like a bad idea. K wouldn't like to see the inside of your breaks.
the freezing temperature of rapeseed oil is -10 degree so in cold day you will notice molecules move slower brakes get stiff and eventually damaged when frozen also boiling temperature if around 170degree which half of mineral oil
Seth where do you keep all the other bikes that you showcased in the dungeon
Cool vid I think that contamination of the seals should happen quite quickly if the oil is not compatible with the brake system. Baby oil might have a lower boiling point because some of the fragrances might boil first but pure mineral oil should be ok.
No. See my explanation in the main thread. Perfume is there at 0.3% and will have a similarly high boiling point to light mineral oil.
Great vid there ..