That sounds like a perfect addition to the OBERON! Have fun :)
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Very interesting to watch. And I like that you sit down because you are so energetic that when you stand up you walk around a lot which makes you look nervous. Well done!
She most likely get to decide so much that you should be insisting on making the necessary compromises to achieve decent reproduction of music and movies. Or clear out...
Great presentation. I would have liked more information on with what floorstanders each sub makes sense. This was provided with the first two, but not the k14 and m-10s.
@@online_screen_name I bought 4 Opticon LCR MK2 and 1 MK2 Center for the lower layer. I can highly recommend you. I am running the Dali's with a Marantz 6015 and that fits perfectly. But you need a strong Sub. I combined with a Magnat Omega CS12
@@online_screen_name you're welcome. if you go with the new opticon, too you'll love the mids and highs. very wide, open and big stage with clear voices. really good for that price👍
Amazing video! I currently have a pair of Spektor 6s and I love them, however I really want to add a sub. What do you think would the E-12F make a good fit? The room is quite big (35m²), but placement options are sort of limited, so i want a powerful, yet compact subwoofer that will be able to keep up with the Spekors and fill the whole space with clean bass.
Awesome video,it helped me to deside to buy a 12F to my system😊 can you pleace make a video like this with the Concept series too? Will Concept 6 and 12F work good together?
Hi Erik. The CONCEPT series was discontinued some 10 years ago. It was first replaced by the ZENSOR series (now also discontinued) and then the current OBERON series. But the CONCEPT 6 and SUB E-12 F will work great together, as well as the current OBERON line.
incredible video of the lineup - thanks Thomas for your work as always ! the M10 and P10DSS are not present in the 2/2022 price book - are they not available in the USA ?
I’m considering buying one of these in China in 2024. I can get a brand new Sunfire Hrs-12 for $500 an MK12 for $700 or a Dali K14 for $740. I am more interested in music performance.I’ve read about quite a number of humming incidents with the Sunfire on forums. Does the Dali have any of these issues? I can’t demo any of the subs. How reliable are Dali subs and is there a 6 year warrantee? (Maybe I am wrong). I know the Sunfire only has a 1 year warrantee. It is the cheapest and possibly goes the lowest, but reliability issues worry me. Any opinions greatly appreciated. p.s the prices of some things in China are crazy. You can buy stuff from government contractors that produce extra units. I paid $915 for an Audiolab 9000a. I will be using a sub with KEF XQ40s
I just ordered the SUB C-8 D, but I'm surprised to see it has no protection on the bottom? Children's hands or cat's claws can reach those places and damage the conus....
Hello! It’s all a matter of taste and preference - and depends a bit on your room acoustics as well. I would recommend starting at around 80 Hz and finding a volume setting where the subwoofer blends well with your OBERON 5’s. Then try setting the subwoofer to 70 Hz and listen to that. The correct setting would be when the subwoofer sounds like a natural extension. Do let me know if you have any questions we can help you with. Thanks!
I own a pair of Rubicon 5 speakers and want the same sound in another room but I need to have in wall speakers and maybe add a sub. What do you recommend?
I really enjoy watching this, even though knowing how to design subs and the technical details behind it, this is pretty much appears as a lot of nice sounding words with little to no meaning. Still, decent subs without a doubt. No bullshitting people with "extension to 11hz" from a 20cm cube...
what Dali sub pairs best with my Rubicon 6 BE Limited?...i listen to a lot of music and watch movies...I had a pair of Rel T7x and I didn't think the bass had enough extension and was too tight...
Hello. From what you describe I would recommend two DALI K-14 F subwoofers. It is a very powerful combination and will fill large rooms with deep and engaging bass. Having two will distribute the bass energy more evenly in the room and give you better bass response and punchier dynamics. And…they sound great for music as well - like all DALI subwoofers. If space is an issue, we can recommend two of our new DALI SUB S-100 custom installation subwoofers. They can be mounted on the wall, on the wall or lying flat on their back. Don’t let the slim appearance fool you - They are phenomenal subwoofers that sets the reference in sound quality in this category.
I'm a happy owner of Oberon 5's that I use for both music and movies. But if I would want to add a bit of low-end extension, is the C-8 a good choice? By specs, it goes a little bit lower than the E-9. I'm struggling a bit regarding how to choose between the different models. I'd prefer the C-8 or E-9 because they are compact, and living in a city apartment, I'm not sure if I could truly utilize the performance of the bigger models. I have a medium-sized living room, about 18 square meters.
@@MovieViking Time passed, and I ended up getting the Elac 2030 that is a closed enclosure 10" very similar to the Dali C8 in terms of size and price, but by specs goes a little lower. It is a good match in my experience. The crossover frequency range goes down to 44 Hz which is just about low enough for the Oberon 5's. It starts to kick in the frequencies where the Oberons start to show their limits.
The C-8 is actually amazing! I need to hear more of the other subs, but I love how responsive the C-8 is. My biggest dislike with subs have been that I've found the ones I've previously listened to be too slow and sort of "bleed" out over the music, but the C-8 provides just that extra bass extension without ever taking the center stage and you won't notice it's on until someone turns it off. The other subs will surely produce a deeper and more powerful base, but if they are as responsive and rhytmical as the C-8 I'll be surprised. For music the C-8 might be the best sub per unit of money I've heard. What do you think of it?
Hi. All our subwoofers are designed to be as responsive and fast as possible and to provide the most seamless integration with the main speakers. The subwoofers we make have the same “timing” qualities as you like on the C-8 - although I would say that the K-14 is the only one, where we have focused a bit more on home theatre performance and raw power, than ultimate music performance - although it is very good at this also. The E-9F or E-12F are wonderful for music as well. Depending on the room size and your front speakers of course. I would suggest you give the E-9F a listen - that is a very fast and responsive, all-around subwoofer. Thomas / DALI
@@dalispeakers Thank you so much for a good reply! Now I am eager to try out the others and see if I can hear the difference between K-14 and others in fast tracks.
Depends on your main speakers, room size, your need for bass extension and your wallet... I would go with two M-10 D or P-10 DSS and a Dspeaker Anti-Mode, never just one sub unless you only want to optimise sound in one very specific spot.
@@dalispeakersyes i know that, i really like the look of e12f, but the output power just 170w, the k14f has bigger energy but the size is too big for me, so hard too choose
They seem quite bad. They don't go low, their spl is tragic and the price is high. Of you want deep bass and high spl buy svs. If you want a best quality mid bass buy rel which still digs up lower for the same price.
No, if you want boomy mid bass and almost impossible calibration with any low-loss and agile sounding speaker you buy SVS. The closed SVS SB-4000 being the exception most of their range is clearly tuned to a certain and predominantly American audience. If you pair ie Epicon with a ported SVS the result is at best mediocre. Add two P-10 DSS and the result is fantastic.
Excellent walkthrough, I already have DALI OBERON 1 C, now I will add C-8 D to the system.
That sounds like a perfect addition to the OBERON! Have fun :)
Very interesting to watch. And I like that you sit down because you are so energetic that when you stand up you walk around a lot which makes you look nervous. Well done!
Love your subwoofers, listened to it in the store but have a problem, my wife...😁
Called the “wife acceptance factor”
She most likely get to decide so much that you should be insisting on making the necessary compromises to achieve decent reproduction of music and movies. Or clear out...
fantaaastic Subs...and...SOOOO maching with the Dali Speakers...they need to LIVE (sound) together...!! :-)
I have dali Opticon 5.1 system with k14f sub. I love the sound of this set💪 it sounds really good with music and movies.
Great presentation. I would have liked more information on with what floorstanders each sub makes sense. This was provided with the first two, but not the k14 and m-10s.
Thanks for the nice overview. Now i have to choose one of these for my 5 channel Opticon LCR MK2 Suround setup in my 35m2 living room.
What did you go for and how are you enjoying your opticon setup? It’s something I am considering for myself.
@@online_screen_name I bought 4 Opticon LCR MK2 and 1 MK2 Center for the lower layer. I can highly recommend you. I am running the Dali's with a Marantz 6015 and that fits perfectly. But you need a strong Sub. I combined with a Magnat Omega CS12
@@MiG-40i thanks 👍
@@online_screen_name you're welcome. if you go with the new opticon, too you'll love the mids and highs. very wide, open and big stage with clear voices. really good for that price👍
Amazing video! I currently have a pair of Spektor 6s and I love them, however I really want to add a sub. What do you think would the E-12F make a good fit? The room is quite big (35m²), but placement options are sort of limited, so i want a powerful, yet compact subwoofer that will be able to keep up with the Spekors and fill the whole space with clean bass.
What would be a recommended subwoofer for Dali Menuet SE.
Thanks in advance
Awesome video,it helped me to deside to buy a 12F to my system😊 can you pleace make a video like this with the Concept series too? Will Concept 6 and 12F work good together?
Hi Erik. The CONCEPT series was discontinued some 10 years ago. It was first replaced by the ZENSOR series (now also discontinued) and then the current OBERON series. But the CONCEPT 6 and SUB E-12 F will work great together, as well as the current OBERON line.
Going to buy one
I got the old Suite Sub and it would be nice to know what Dali has made since then to improve the sound.
incredible video of the lineup - thanks Thomas for your work as always !
the M10 and P10DSS are not present in the 2/2022 price book - are they not available in the USA ?
Hi
Unfortunately, they are not traded in the United States.
Nanna / DALI
@@dalispeakers thank you for that - maybe that could change in the future :)
Is your hairstyle a samurai? Sumou? It's very cool.
Living in Japan, I use DALI Menuet, and I can spend the day happily with its wonderful sound.
We can agree that Thomas has a little samurai hidden in him ;)
Glad to hear you are enjoying your DALI MENUET.
Nanna / DALI
I’m considering buying one of these in China in 2024. I can get a brand new Sunfire Hrs-12 for $500 an MK12 for $700 or a Dali K14 for $740. I am more interested in music performance.I’ve read about quite a number of humming incidents with the Sunfire on forums. Does the Dali have any of these issues? I can’t demo any of the subs. How reliable are Dali subs and is there a 6 year warrantee? (Maybe I am wrong). I know the Sunfire only has a 1 year warrantee. It is the cheapest and possibly goes the lowest, but reliability issues worry me.
Any opinions greatly appreciated.
p.s the prices of some things in China are crazy. You can buy stuff from government contractors that produce extra units. I paid $915 for an Audiolab 9000a. I will be using a sub with KEF XQ40s
I just ordered the SUB C-8 D, but I'm surprised to see it has no protection on the bottom?
Children's hands or cat's claws can reach those places and damage the conus....
What is the crossover frequency needed for the Dali Oberon 5 with the E-12 F?
Hello! It’s all a matter of taste and preference - and depends a bit on your room acoustics as well. I would recommend starting at around 80 Hz and finding a volume setting where the subwoofer blends well with your OBERON 5’s. Then try setting the subwoofer to 70 Hz and listen to that. The correct setting would be when the subwoofer sounds like a natural extension. Do let me know if you have any questions we can help you with. Thanks!
Speaker level input for 8CD please 😢
I own a pair of Rubicon 5 speakers and want the same sound in another room but I need to have in wall speakers and maybe add a sub. What do you recommend?
I really enjoy watching this, even though knowing how to design subs and the technical details behind it, this is pretty much appears as a lot of nice sounding words with little to no meaning. Still, decent subs without a doubt.
No bullshitting people with "extension to 11hz" from a 20cm cube...
what Dali sub pairs best with my Rubicon 6 BE Limited?...i listen to a lot of music and watch movies...I had a pair of Rel T7x and I didn't think the bass had enough extension and was too tight...
Hello. From what you describe I would recommend two DALI K-14 F subwoofers.
It is a very powerful combination and will fill large rooms with deep and engaging bass.
Having two will distribute the bass energy more evenly in the room and give you better bass response and punchier dynamics.
And…they sound great for music as well - like all DALI subwoofers.
If space is an issue, we can recommend two of our new DALI SUB S-100 custom installation subwoofers.
They can be mounted on the wall, on the wall or lying flat on their back.
Don’t let the slim appearance fool you - They are phenomenal subwoofers that sets the reference in sound quality in this category.
I'm a happy owner of Oberon 5's that I use for both music and movies. But if I would want to add a bit of low-end extension, is the C-8 a good choice? By specs, it goes a little bit lower than the E-9.
I'm struggling a bit regarding how to choose between the different models. I'd prefer the C-8 or E-9 because they are compact, and living in a city apartment, I'm not sure if I could truly utilize the performance of the bigger models. I have a medium-sized living room, about 18 square meters.
If you can afford it buy the M-10 D and some "poron" or Sorbothane feet for it. You will not regret it 🙂
@@MovieViking Time passed, and I ended up getting the Elac 2030 that is a closed enclosure 10" very similar to the Dali C8 in terms of size and price, but by specs goes a little lower.
It is a good match in my experience. The crossover frequency range goes down to 44 Hz which is just about low enough for the Oberon 5's. It starts to kick in the frequencies where the Oberons start to show their limits.
@@Antti5 👌🏻 Good choice. I like the way those 10" closed subs blend with the main speakers.
The C-8 is actually amazing! I need to hear more of the other subs, but I love how responsive the C-8 is. My biggest dislike with subs have been that I've found the ones I've previously listened to be too slow and sort of "bleed" out over the music, but the C-8 provides just that extra bass extension without ever taking the center stage and you won't notice it's on until someone turns it off.
The other subs will surely produce a deeper and more powerful base, but if they are as responsive and rhytmical as the C-8 I'll be surprised. For music the C-8 might be the best sub per unit of money I've heard.
What do you think of it?
Hi.
All our subwoofers are designed to be as responsive and fast as possible and to provide the most seamless integration with the main speakers.
The subwoofers we make have the same “timing” qualities as you like on the C-8 - although I would say that the K-14 is the only one, where we have focused a bit more on home theatre performance and raw power, than ultimate music performance - although it is very good at this also.
The E-9F or E-12F are wonderful for music as well.
Depending on the room size and your front speakers of course.
I would suggest you give the E-9F a listen - that is a very fast and responsive, all-around subwoofer.
Thomas / DALI
@@dalispeakers Thank you so much for a good reply! Now I am eager to try out the others and see if I can hear the difference between K-14 and others in fast tracks.
Which one for just audio?
Depends on your main speakers, room size, your need for bass extension and your wallet... I would go with two M-10 D or P-10 DSS and a Dspeaker Anti-Mode, never just one sub unless you only want to optimise sound in one very specific spot.
Why the e12f has the same power output with the e9f😂
Hi, this is Because it is using the same amplifier :)
@@dalispeakersyes i know that, i really like the look of e12f, but the output power just 170w, the k14f has bigger energy but the size is too big for me, so hard too choose
From India
good
They seem quite bad. They don't go low, their spl is tragic and the price is high. Of you want deep bass and high spl buy svs. If you want a best quality mid bass buy rel which still digs up lower for the same price.
No, if you want boomy mid bass and almost impossible calibration with any low-loss and agile sounding speaker you buy SVS. The closed SVS SB-4000 being the exception most of their range is clearly tuned to a certain and predominantly American audience. If you pair ie Epicon with a ported SVS the result is at best mediocre.
Add two P-10 DSS and the result is fantastic.
😬