Ty for the shoutout :) You may be able to improve the boot times by moving your RST wire to R8C2 south side on the top of the motherboard. I did so on my RGH1 Zephyr and the boots became more consistent. I also have yet to get RGH1.2 working on Zephyrs so Ace RGH2 is still the way for split CB boxes :D
@@MrMario2011 What timing files would i use? im confused i have the same install but i cannot find anywhere any one talking about rgh 1 and a tut i check all the boxes for rgh 1 and have it all setup?
Ashamed to say I bolt modded some 360's back in the day before I knew better, I'd never do it again. Yes it did get a few working, but they never lasted. Thankfully I now know better and am keeping many 360's alive for people to enjoy for hopefully years to come.
@@foxhazhax4845 one of the many reasons I haven't bought anything from them since Mario Maker 1 on WiiU, they will never see another penny from me again :)
you dont know how much i enjoy this kind of videos. i like to watch videos in backround while i play games or do work. But your videos are the top tier. I enjoy them sooo much. I hope you will continue to make xbox rgh/flash videos!
@@MrMario2011 im a ps3 guy, all about that cfw, ever since back when we had to host the exploit and the flash reader/writer .js files and the patched hex ourselves. Keep it up, fam 😁
i've been waiting for a video like this. i have a few 360 standing by to be modded using RGH method. still new to this. i've been just doing software mod with the dvdrom firmware using jungle flasher style. thanks.
its really nice to hear you voice your opinions of the prior work done, I feel like I don't hear you say "fuck" nearly often enough lol, 360 vids are always the best from you :)
The black epoxy is there to prevent flashing the drive by directly connecting to the flash chip storing the firmware, obviously that was useless when people figured out you can just flash it over SATA. The reason there is only one side of the big chip covered up is probably because that's where the traces from the flash chip go, so that's where you could solder wires to access the flash chip's bus.
@@MrMario2011 Remember last time i tried to RGH 1.2 my xbox 360 Falcon?, Well... I found my problem, The orange wire, When i cleaned it up, I noticed how the copper strip under the board was broken, And the Yellow wire, again copper strip broke Around the centre. Since you are wayyyy more expirenced in this stuff, is there a way to like, Scratch some fiber off the board and take some wires and solder it in, I mean if it's completly toast, I wouldent mind buying a cheap 45 dallor mother board online.
@@MrMario2011 I’m interested now as at least with me now finding jtagable or RGH1able consoles are really hard. Have you encountered any jtagable or rgh1able consoles in the wild recently?
Shango066 has this rule about resurrecting old tv’s and radios that are filled with mud: Don’t clean it! The cleaning not only removes the mud, but will most certainly destroy the old fragile electrical components in the set. This reminds me of that. Those bolts have misshapened everything and touching it might cause more issues. Bonus: To clen my 360 i washed the mobo in the sink. Yeah. Worked a treat! And it still works! Just let it dry.
Love watching your videos, I actually was scouting ebay for a 360 and found a Jasper that had a gamestop refurb sticker on it. I really don't know what was going through gamestop's heads when they thought this was necessary on a Jasper board. I'm pretty certain that they eventually started doing this with any system they got whether it was working or not. Nevertheless, I bought it since it was only 25$ and I am gonna take that poor Jasper out of its misery by giving it some new X-clamps and reversing that annoying ass fan mod. Wish me luck!
i had a bolt modded jasper i wanted to save. i returned the xclamps and 4 hours later it got RROD e74. sucks so bad when they gotta bolt mod jaspers which all have reliable gpus
I've always wanted to RGH an Xbox, bought a Trinity awhile back and never got around to it. Ended up collecting a bunch of PlayStations instead lol RGH is still on the project list, some of the homebrew for the XB360 is pretty interesting
Any chance you do Xbox 360 (Slim) modchip installations? You could make a tutorial out of it as well, if you wanted. And there would be caps in it for you as well. If not, I'm sure I'll manage.
Currently having trouble with a Zephyr I got for dirt cheap recently. Sadly it was bolt modded and presenting the E74 RROD. I tried to use my heat gun for a shoddy reflow attempt but it only yielded two hours of play before she had E74 again. Thinking it may have to have a reball, but the board showed minor warping when it had the bold mod. Not sure if it's worth it but I'd rather not let the system become e-waste or salvage because it has the NXE dashboard.
If you're in the us your best shot is sending it to Octal itself. Reflowing or reballing is just a temporal fix as the problem is inside the chip itself so you yourself can't fix it unless you have a spare chip
hi, do you have a soldering diagram for zephyr motherboards? i happen to get one in my local auction shop. i have all 3 coolrunner revc, matrix glitcher v1 (with ocilator) and ace v3. ive done lots of rgh before but mostly falcon, jasper and slims. (not e series) they say zephyr is even harder to mod.
I had a refurb years ago. Noticed the loud fan , took it apart and found all this bull shit had been done to it. I replaced it all did a reball (i paid for that) , It's still working to this day. But this is bull shit and they need to be kick in a balls for it
I thought there was a lot of discussion about the Fan mods causing issues with the DVD drives, this could be the problem with the drive not ejecting all of the way.
Could be? Although I've seen the fan mod on many consoles and this is the only one I've seen this eject issue with, I believe this is more with the drive.
@@MrPete1985 If you're interested in doing your own game repairs and mods on an ongoing basis soldering equipment will pay for itself right away but if you only want to do one rgh it would be more than a bit excessive to buy a whole set of equipment.
and the fact people keep supporting gamestop with their stocks despite it being a terrible company never surprises me... there's always been issues with their refurb service
Mr. Mario a friend gave me a game stop 360 it is a jasper i was wondering if i could put the x clamps back and came across this video. any link where i could get the heat sinks? also any jasper heat sinks would work?
I always manually spread the thermal paste out on the dies and apply any excess to the heatsink surface before putting the heatsinks on. I want to see that every square inch of the dies are covered in a thin layer of paste with my own eyes, also saves a lot of thermal paste too
the worst part about these gamestop refurbs is that most of them WEREN'T EVEN RED RINGED TO BEGIN WITH they literally just mutilate these poor boards for no reason
Only EC_BOOT error are patched out. 0010 is a EC_FATAL. EC_FATAL is when the Xbox is dangerous to operate and thus all power must be removed. 0010 is ERROR_NO_HANA. No HANA = no temp sensors = DANGAR!!!! EC_BOOT error like 0102, 0022, GPU or CPU error and such, they will not appear without stock NAND, he will just glitch infinite.
@@Josh.Davidson thank you for the explanation. i have a trinity with error code 0101. I reballed the south bridge, hana chip, all the ram chips and the xcgpu. The error is still 0101. I noticed that the 7 caps (ULR 2.5v 820) near the xcgpu all shorted to ground.. Have you had something like this before?
@@xboxudvarhely8400 Hello. Error 0101 the XCGPU is damaged or the memories. Reballing will not be permanent fix. You need to change the XCGPU first then the memories, also check for corrosion. You can check out my error database here: errors.octalsconsoleshop.com Can you give me ID for that cap where he is, that I'll check what its filtering?
@@MrMario2011 I just realized they were purposefully put backward by you to direct cold air onto the heatsinks instead of drawing out the hot air like the Xbox 360 normally does. They are backwards I can guarantee, but it is actually a good idea to put them backwards when the Xbox is opened.
@@MrMario2011 I'm sorry if you had already explained this in the video, but I'm in the process of undoing the bolt mod and have already undid the 12v fan mod and don't have a donor console so I have to buy the parts. Are new heat sinks required as the thread pitch of the hardware used for the bolt mod is probably different?
such insufferable caterwauling over the poor chips held in place by screws, much like the ones on my pc. maybe i'm missing something, either way have some dignity
I mean if you're fine with being scammed, just say it 😂 "much like the ones on my pc" is the exact logic people used almost 20 years ago when this awful "fix" was being pushed around online, not realizing that just because something works doesn't mean it's fixed.
Ty for the shoutout :)
You may be able to improve the boot times by moving your RST wire to R8C2 south side on the top of the motherboard. I did so on my RGH1 Zephyr and the boots became more consistent.
I also have yet to get RGH1.2 working on Zephyrs so Ace RGH2 is still the way for split CB boxes :D
Thanks for the tips, past and current! Very happy to get this console restored thanks to you.
@@MrMario2011 anytime brotherman
Josh is one of the nicest, smartest, and good hearted people that will tell you that you're doing something wrong.
@@MrMario2011 What timing files would i use? im confused i have the same install but i cannot find anywhere any one talking about rgh 1 and a tut i check all the boxes for rgh 1 and have it all setup?
Omg a working zephyr! Even more rare than an orange og xbox. This thing must be worth millions.
I’ve got some working rgh’ed xenons. Their not really too special. And later zephyrs are generally fine.
Ashamed to say I bolt modded some 360's back in the day before I knew better, I'd never do it again. Yes it did get a few working, but they never lasted. Thankfully I now know better and am keeping many 360's alive for people to enjoy for hopefully years to come.
As long as you do better going forward, that's what matters!
I have an RGH’d Corona but I really want to learn how to do it so I can RGH my falcon. The white phat model brings me back to my high school days
A Philips #2, is something you'd expect to use in a console teardown.
Update from my previous comment, I’ve since RGH’d six consoles so far and I have four more waiting to get done. Thanks for inspiring me!
Very cool!
As a repair tech at a retro game shop I knew exactly what that splice was and what it meant would be under the board
AWFUL
@@MrMario2011 yip. Its always the GS slop-jobs that end up in the shop.
@@foxhazhax4845 one of the many reasons I haven't bought anything from them since Mario Maker 1 on WiiU, they will never see another penny from me again :)
@@rainbowdooche6957 evey time I see that silver warranty sticker or one of those tiny square number stickers I know I'm in for an adventure.
you dont know how much i enjoy this kind of videos. i like to watch videos in backround while i play games or do work. But your videos are the top tier. I enjoy them sooo much. I hope you will continue to make xbox rgh/flash videos!
Glad you like them! Really appreciate it.
I friggin love your videos bruh, every single one gets me hooked even if its not a system or specific topic I thought I was interested in
I appreciate that!
@@MrMario2011 im a ps3 guy, all about that cfw, ever since back when we had to host the exploit and the flash reader/writer .js files and the patched hex ourselves.
Keep it up, fam 😁
i like watching your 360 vids.
I havnt repaired a 360 since before covid started in 2020.
such memories.
Still love working on them!
Spotted that Retro Gaming Arts container . This guy's amazing he helped me fix my PS2 bad Modchip install.
Paul is a good man.
i've been waiting for a video like this. i have a few 360 standing by to be modded using RGH method. still new to this. i've been just doing software mod with the dvdrom firmware using jungle flasher style. thanks.
its really nice to hear you voice your opinions of the prior work done, I feel like I don't hear you say "fuck" nearly often enough lol, 360 vids are always the best from you :)
LOL sometimes you just gotta let it out 🤣
I nearly crapped myself when you didn't unscrew the heatsinks in a criss-cross pattern. Lucky you didn't break the die...
Don't worry, this console already went through worse than anything I did to it in this video 😂
The black epoxy is there to prevent flashing the drive by directly connecting to the flash chip storing the firmware, obviously that was useless when people figured out you can just flash it over SATA. The reason there is only one side of the big chip covered up is probably because that's where the traces from the flash chip go, so that's where you could solder wires to access the flash chip's bus.
Makes sense! Although I know when reverse engineering happened the epoxy was just a bit of an annoyance, people were able to clear it off.
I start rgh 360 4 months ago with your videos, i like you since the Xbox classic scene.
Very cool!
20:08 i was having a panic attac hahahaha
I love you're videos man, Live a good life, And keep doing what you love doing the best!
I appreciate that!
@@MrMario2011 Remember last time i tried to RGH 1.2 my xbox 360 Falcon?, Well... I found my problem, The orange wire, When i cleaned it up, I noticed how the copper strip under the board was broken, And the Yellow wire, again copper strip broke Around the centre. Since you are wayyyy more expirenced in this stuff, is there a way to like, Scratch some fiber off the board and take some wires and solder it in, I mean if it's completly toast, I wouldent mind buying a cheap 45 dallor mother board online.
Perfect video timing! I’m RGH1ing a jasper I just bought with a pretty low firmware!
Nice!
@@MrMario2011 I’m interested now as at least with me now finding jtagable or RGH1able consoles are really hard. Have you encountered any jtagable or rgh1able consoles in the wild recently?
Nice job, it was informative. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Shango066 has this rule about resurrecting old tv’s and radios that are filled with mud: Don’t clean it!
The cleaning not only removes the mud, but will most certainly destroy the old fragile electrical components in the set.
This reminds me of that. Those bolts have misshapened everything and touching it might cause more issues.
Bonus: To clen my 360 i washed the mobo in the sink. Yeah.
Worked a treat! And it still works! Just let it dry.
Is RGH1 different from RGH3? If so, which one is easier?
Yes, RGH3 is easier.
@@MrMario2011 But there's mot much RGH3 tutorials for a white xbox 360
I guess mine can't be found then 😂
Absolutely an amazing video!!!!!
Thanks!
@@MrMario2011 No Thank you that was absolutely one of the best videos I've seen in a while, I love the modesty, and genuineness of all your videos
Love watching your videos, I actually was scouting ebay for a 360 and found a Jasper that had a gamestop refurb sticker on it. I really don't know what was going through gamestop's heads when they thought this was necessary on a Jasper board. I'm pretty certain that they eventually started doing this with any system they got whether it was working or not. Nevertheless, I bought it since it was only 25$ and I am gonna take that poor Jasper out of its misery by giving it some new X-clamps and reversing that annoying ass fan mod. Wish me luck!
Unfortunately they don't separate out by motherboard. Any Phats that go through their refurbishing center get the same treatment.
@@MrMario2011 Yeah, all we can really do is try and save as many as we can.
i had a bolt modded jasper i wanted to save. i returned the xclamps and 4 hours later it got RROD e74. sucks so bad when they gotta bolt mod jaspers which all have reliable gpus
I've always wanted to RGH an Xbox, bought a Trinity awhile back and never got around to it. Ended up collecting a bunch of PlayStations instead lol
RGH is still on the project list, some of the homebrew for the XB360 is pretty interesting
Definitely a fun project!
I'm gonna try and save my bolt modded xenon that I bought :)
Good luck!
Any chance you do Xbox 360 (Slim) modchip installations? You could make a tutorial out of it as well, if you wanted. And there would be caps in it for you as well. If not, I'm sure I'll manage.
I don't offer services.
I love my RGH 360. I got a friend to do mine though as I didn't want to mess it up 🤣
Fair hah
I have a Zephyr that had bolts too. Unfortunately it did not survive and has ended up as a donor case for a beaten up Falcon :(
Currently having trouble with a Zephyr I got for dirt cheap recently. Sadly it was bolt modded and presenting the E74 RROD. I tried to use my heat gun for a shoddy reflow attempt but it only yielded two hours of play before she had E74 again. Thinking it may have to have a reball, but the board showed minor warping when it had the bold mod. Not sure if it's worth it but I'd rather not let the system become e-waste or salvage because it has the NXE dashboard.
If you're in the us your best shot is sending it to Octal itself. Reflowing or reballing is just a temporal fix as the problem is inside the chip itself so you yourself can't fix it unless you have a spare chip
I have Noctua NTH1 on both my PS3 Slim and Jasper Xbox360 works really great.
hi, do you have a soldering diagram for zephyr motherboards? i happen to get one in my local auction shop. i have all 3 coolrunner revc, matrix glitcher v1 (with ocilator) and ace v3. ive done lots of rgh before but mostly falcon, jasper and slims. (not e series) they say zephyr is even harder to mod.
I had a refurb years ago. Noticed the loud fan , took it apart and found all this bull shit had been done to it. I replaced it all did a reball (i paid for that) , It's still working to this day. But this is bull shit and they need to be kick in a balls for it
I agree, absolutely disgusting business practice.
I didnt realize you have Werewolf hands!
LOL, I take that as a compliment 😂
I thought there was a lot of discussion about the Fan mods causing issues with the DVD drives, this could be the problem with the drive not ejecting all of the way.
Could be? Although I've seen the fan mod on many consoles and this is the only one I've seen this eject issue with, I believe this is more with the drive.
If you decide to replace the drive but can't find one on the cheap let me know, I've got a box full of refurbished drives.
Do you recommend buying the console premoded or doing it yourself?
Do you like doing DIY projects for fun? If so go wild. If you're easily frustrated pay.
@@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN exactly. Time is money. if you have tons of free time, enjoy modding, go wild. Hhahah
I've modded a couple and the sense of accomplishment was worth it in and of itself.
If you already have most of the tool for soldering I say do it yourself. Otherwise buy one pre modded but make sure you get pictures of the install
@@MrPete1985
If you're interested in doing your own game repairs and mods on an ongoing basis soldering equipment will pay for itself right away but if you only want to do one rgh it would be more than a bit excessive to buy a whole set of equipment.
and the fact people keep supporting gamestop with their stocks despite it being a terrible company never surprises me... there's always been issues with their refurb service
Mr. Mario a friend gave me a game stop 360 it is a jasper i was wondering if i could put the x clamps back and came across this video. any link where i could get the heat sinks?
also any jasper heat sinks would work?
I bought mine all from Octal, but I'm sure you can buy from eBay or even pull from another junked console.
@@MrMario2011 Mr Mario i managed to pick up a Zephyr with the red ring. Will the heat sinks work on a Jasper ?
Do I need an AceV3
Or Coolrunner to rgh my zephyr
MrMario what is the cheapest way to jailbreak zephyr xbox 360?
(i have 60$)
Imagine using anything but a jasper 🤢
- Jasper gang 😎
lol
Hearty boards, those ones!
I always manually spread the thermal paste out on the dies and apply any excess to the heatsink surface before putting the heatsinks on. I want to see that every square inch of the dies are covered in a thin layer of paste with my own eyes, also saves a lot of thermal paste too
That's fair.
the worst part about these gamestop refurbs is that most of them WEREN'T EVEN RED RINGED TO BEGIN WITH
they literally just mutilate these poor boards for no reason
Accurate.
If you did not have the original nand backup, how could you get the error code...?
All shown and explained there.
Only EC_BOOT error are patched out. 0010 is a EC_FATAL. EC_FATAL is when the Xbox is dangerous to operate and thus all power must be removed. 0010 is ERROR_NO_HANA. No HANA = no temp sensors = DANGAR!!!!
EC_BOOT error like 0102, 0022, GPU or CPU error and such, they will not appear without stock NAND, he will just glitch infinite.
@@Josh.Davidson thank you for the explanation.
i have a trinity with error code 0101.
I reballed the south bridge, hana chip, all the ram chips and the xcgpu. The error is still 0101.
I noticed that the 7 caps (ULR 2.5v 820) near the xcgpu all shorted to ground..
Have you had something like this before?
@@xboxudvarhely8400 Hello. Error 0101 the XCGPU is damaged or the memories. Reballing will not be permanent fix. You need to change the XCGPU first then the memories, also check for corrosion. You can check out my error database here: errors.octalsconsoleshop.com
Can you give me ID for that cap where he is, that I'll check what its filtering?
That is way too much thermal paste you put on there.
RGA shout out
Hell yeah, love the folks over at Retro Gaming Arts.
my first Xbox 360 was over heating and died after awail i was doing towel trick
I have a zephyr Jtag what should I do with it
Take care of it!
@@MrMario2011 I don't mean that I mean cool stuff I should do with it
@@MrMario2011 the coolest thing I did with it was freeboot 9199 (nxe) and 6717 (blades)
@@MrMario2011 love you vids btw
Not gonna lie, I thought there was something stuck on my screen
Gotta be sneaky.
The fans are backwards lol.
No they aren't.
@@MrMario2011 I just realized they were purposefully put backward by you to direct cold air onto the heatsinks instead of drawing out the hot air like the Xbox 360 normally does. They are backwards I can guarantee, but it is actually a good idea to put them backwards when the Xbox is opened.
I hate bolt mods.
Same
@@MrMario2011 I'm sorry if you had already explained this in the video, but I'm in the process of undoing the bolt mod and have already undid the 12v fan mod and don't have a donor console so I have to buy the parts. Are new heat sinks required as the thread pitch of the hardware used for the bolt mod is probably different?
My thermal paste is superior to your thermal paste
Oh we fighting thermals now?!
such insufferable caterwauling over the poor chips held in place by screws, much like the ones on my pc. maybe i'm missing something, either way have some dignity
I mean if you're fine with being scammed, just say it 😂
"much like the ones on my pc" is the exact logic people used almost 20 years ago when this awful "fix" was being pushed around online, not realizing that just because something works doesn't mean it's fixed.
the bolt "mod" is just a lazy thing
Less lazy, more destructive.