We bought A 1978 Bally Strikes And Spares Pinball Machine Out Of A Carport - Full Of Spiders!!!
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I love these Bally machines artwork. They are always one inch above trashy! Can you imagine the artwork that they rejected? LOL Like I said before, then understood their core customer!
Love your videos! I especially love the shango and electro boom reference... come on people. Cant wait for the next amateur repair time
You can use a small paint brush zip tied to the hose.
That is a great idea Tim, thank you!
THANK YOU. I'm a lefty and struggle with those crimpers. I'll be switching those jaws around tonight.
Makes it a nice little tool :)
''Shango level, messed up'' Cooool!
OMG IT IS HAPPENING!!! I've seen that machine in the store for soooooooo long and couldn't wait til ya started to work on it. 2 themes of pinball machines that are ALWAYS a win, pool/billiards, and bowling. I LIVED bowling til I fell ill and lost my mobility. I can't wait to see all in the series on this machine, gonna be awesome. Great video as always Ronnie!! :)
It's happening! I repeat... THE HAPPENING IS HAPPENING!!!!!! ruclips.net/video/CpXHVuXDBK4/видео.html
Hey Rep. I LIVED, EAT, SLEEP, FARTED, you name it, Bowling … as well. I still bowl 60 years later. I grew up ina bowling alley just about and playing all the 70’s -80’s arcade and pinball that our bowling alley had to offer. I went to Arcades too. Truly miss those days.
Sorry you’re not able to bowl no more brother. Who knows, we may have crossed lanes somewhere sometime in the past. Nationals, local Tournaments, PBA Regionals.
I’m disabled as well but can bowl. Can’t throw the ball like I used too but I’m still dangerous enough to keep a respectable average. Accuracy was how I was taught. Not like today with todays technology in pocket seeking bowling balls that hit much harder. I call it cheating.
I bet we could talk for hours. Take care sir
I just picked up a Strikes and Spares last month. First pin. So far I've done tons of work on it. Plays great now!
I love that you watch Shango too.
That was my first pinball that I bought in 1980 when I was just 17. I had it in my bedroom with 2 caberet vids. Every time my mom had company, they would end up in my room playing the games! Paid a whopping $200. BTW, Pinball Life sells the transformer and rectifier board as a whole thing.
I like how the whole power assembly is in the head. And comes out easily. Later machines in the cabinet are harder to work on. You can actually get this whole assembly with transformer new. And yes like $350. My KISS machine transformer boiled the wax out and got real hot.
Spiders look like common southern cellar spiders, which are super useful for controlling other pests. But these look like food has been scarce and many starved to death. They won't have done any damage other than leaving behind dust and old webs and such.
I'm not really scared of them or anything I just thought it was interesting :) Thank you for watching as always, LS!!!!
I turned the score over 17x on one of those machines at a skating rink in Macon Ga . Early eighties
My favorite pb machine.
Hello Ron and Joe ever think about a live stream. And always to say I love watching you guys do your think can't wait to see your vids
Strikes And Spares was a very common game in Australia. It was a favourite, that art work is iconic.
Absolutely one of the best backglasses ever! Thanks for watching MrButtonPresser!
I wonder if anyone uses Imron coating anymore? Sun Process (which is still in business) held a patent for a multilayer clearcoat for pinball playfields which was marketed under the name Diamond-Plate. The process was developed in conjunction with DuPont and apparently it was expensive enough back then that they made only 200 playfields per year with that coating.
What an enjoyable first video on this classic. Even though I’m strictly an EM guy, I almost feel like I could do an early solid state machine, ..and all from watching you bring back several early Bally digital games.
The girl on the backglass has legs going from her feet to her neck! Fantastic, and I think this game is gonna play great.
Thanks for the education Ronnie.
That is a cool back glass
Nice playfield
Nice game. My favorite era of Pinball.
Looks like this one has great foundation to build a good Strikes & Spares. All the important and hard to repair stuff is in good shape. The rest can be fixed - and makes a good video.
Something else of note, In your back glass is the little CREDIT sticker in the window. My OG Glass had that, But on the other hand glass was peeled so bad, Red had some major skin cancer going on, most all the flesh color peeled off. Only her eyes were left, like I dream of Jeannie eyes on the bottle. The replacement back glass was another one from years gone by but it did not come with the CREDIT Decal in the window. No clue why a glass on one game would have CREDIT decal and another one would not...
In some areas having the game advertise how many credits were on it was illegal, because you could sell the credit you won to someone standing there behind you, so that's gambling. Brought to you by the typical moronic politicians that are destroying the world around us as we speak :)
So Bally shipped the machines out with a dipswitch that could turn off the credit display, and the sticker could be removed so it would be legal in that jurisdiction....
Talking about the voltages, we here in Finland had 220Vac for ages, but some years back it was jacked to 230Vac.
Im a elect. Tech with over 42 years experience and counting. I really enjoy your videos. Not a lo of people like to share their knowdledge like you do. How do you about reconditioning the play field back to original...?? Repaint?? Sounds like quite the operation...
Repaint??
We repaint it by hand, we'll repaint this one here in a couple videos, see you then :)
So I was totally prepared to rebuild my rectifier board. I was going to even mod it to re-inforce the 12v lines by adding jumpers, etc (which are terribly designed on the original board). After I added up the cost of the upgraded bridge rectifiers (35A) and the replacement fuses, fuse holders and such, it was CHEAPER to buy the reproduction rectifier board for $60. AND they redesigned it to upgrade it to beefier traces for the voltage. So for me, I chose to replace the board.
Love this machine. Best backglass ever. I need to get mine working already.
Come on now, these guys are going out of their way to provide us with awesome content, 4.4k views but only 403 likes, hit that like button and show your appreciation 👍
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I also reversed my crimpers too since I am also Left handed !!
All us smart people are left handed!
When you opened the back box, it sounded like one of those old creepy haunted house doors
A 4am video..it's broke 😮
My Strikes and spares has mylar over the wear too. I have seen a few others like that. I'm thinking this is a warranty type repair/fix.
Hey Bally the paint is getting removed in front of my sling shots...
We will mail you two half moons of this clear sticky stuff, it will fix your problem.
That very well could be, at some point they started putting it in the manual. The game would come with the two half moons in the package, and a page in the manual said to put them in front of the kickers... maybe the first year or so of games they noticed the problem and then started adding it in the new games after using it for warranty stuff. I can't remember seeing them ever really used on any of the EM games so it may have happened right around the time this game was popular....
I think it is fine job😊
"...electro-boom situation..."? In 30 years, I have never heard that term. ty for the laugh.
There's a channel here on youtube called ElectroBoom that's where I got that, pretty funny stuff
Great video Ronnie, Love the step by step. Power is everything in pinball machines. Does in matter if the solder touches each other when you redo the joints? Thanks for filming and see you on next video.
The solder shouldn't touch but some of those pins are supposed to touch (they might all be ground, for instance). Thanks for watching Frank! Tell your dad we said hi!
AlltekSystems is the maker of the Ultimate MPU Replacement Board for pinball machines.
No basements in Texas either but that looks' familiar....
0:08:00 shango066 cathode ray tube resurrections, weird to mention on a Good Friday, most ordinarily features one dehydrated spider inside, once the TV's back is removed. always one someplace.
I wish they would have used the square pins instead of the round ones. Which have more surface contact and usually doesn’t burn like the round pins.
5 footer?? Maybe a 6 footer!! LOL, Soon to be Lyons Perfect.
Bridge rectifiers usually only die if there's a fault on the DC side. I used to fix a lot of TVs, and if one of the mosfets which run the backlight would fail and short out, it would take out the bridge rectifier as the short would cause so much current to go through it, and then it would pop the fuse on the AC input.
usually
I work on the principle that it is only original once. Keep as much as possible original.
Preach Brother 🫡
If you got someone to clean your meter and a maid outfit you'd have to have it on video.😂
Lookn good guys👍👍
Thanks Harry
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Those old transformers and power boards last forever. Unless you get a direct lightning strike. But I always ground my electricity to Earth ground. FPL has Surge Addon for a FEE Also. Surges and water damage are the main problems with any electronics. If you notice most new stuff has no ground wire which is stupid.
Rectifiers are interesting. For a single-phase, full-wave rectifier, you only have 4 diodes.
But if you are rectifying 3-phase AC, you'd have 6 diodes. Each of the 3 supply wires would get an anode of one diode and a cathode of another. So 3 pairs of diodes with an anode of one and a cathode of the other wired together. Then on the ends of the diodes opposite the AC power, you'd wire all the cathodes together for the +, and all the anodes together for the negative. (Yes, that sounds backward, but the anode and cathodes are marked in reference to what the diode needs, not what it gives off.) And that is what they do inside a car alternator.
It is interesting why cars use alternators instead of the old generators like the old VW Bugs used. If you are working with DC from a permanent magnet, it is hard to regulate it. They have voltage and current relays inside. There may be a resistor to where the relays don't trigger, but if they do trigger, you know the voltage and/or current is too high. But high current DC will damage the contacts with time. So with an alternator, they don't use permanent magnets. Instead, you have a field coil that is powered by the battery. So newer voltage regulators adjust the field coil voltage. The stronger the field, the more current is produced and no field voltage at all means there is no power being produced. So it is easier to work with less current and to control it before it is produced than gating the power on the high current end once it is produced. But it produces 3-phase AC (Delta wound), and it uses 6 diodes to rectify it.
I also described a 2-diode full-wave rectifier in the past. I had someone argue with me that it couldn't be full-wave. It is, but you sacrifice 1/2 the voltage. So if you have a 12-VAC center-tapped output, you could use the center wire (or "neutral") for the ground. Then attach the "anode" of a separate diode to each of the other 2 wires. Then join the cathodes and attach the positive output wire there. What you get is 6-VDC, full-wave. I don't know why one would do it that way as opposed to omitting the neutral and wiring both outside legs to a bridge rectifier. But I guess that could be cooler as both halves are only being used at half-efficiency. But it is balanced as opposed to half-wave rectifying from the outside lugs only which could put noise on the line current side.
The benefits of a 2-diode full wave rectifier is that you only need two rectifying elements and that you end up with a lower voltage drop. Back in the day when diodes were expensive it made sense to only use two, especially when using vacuum tube rectifiers.
@@eDoc2020 -- Thanks! That's good to know. I still think there is some other reason today such as thermal issues. So you have 2 half-wave circuits at 180 degrees out of phase, so the transformer is only half-loaded. I don't know if that is supposed to be for safety reasons or what in devices that stay powered such as radios and alarm clocks. Even the claw machines do that for the light controller.
@@PlumGurly For most things today using a dumb transformer it's probably because of legacy design. But some things use more than just DC. As an example clocks with the TMS3450NL use the two phases as row drivers for display multiplexing, and the grounded center tap makes it easier to tap off a timing signal for keeping time.
@@eDoc2020 -- Interesting. Thanks.
Hey Ron!!
A varistor simply slows down the inrush current at startup. It warms up and essentially removes itself.
capacitors can suck a lot of current when instantly turned on. Not good for the cap, and it can blow a fuse.
It gives you a slower initial startup.. just a few seconds.
It could act as a fuse, if under sized. not its purpose.
Hey Ron, send me all the old pinballs. I would like to restore them. I could pay for shipping.
🎶 Transformers, pinbot in disguise 🎵
your crimper's looks like a T-REX.
I've thought the same thing myself!
Looked like there was a nail in the plug not plugged in above the first plug you replaced the female pins
Yikes. Looks like a rat has chewed on that power cord. I feel your pain.
The leg bolt's connected to the, leg bone
Fuses aren't different sizes because of different voltages, they are different sizes because of different current limits. Eg it doesn't matter if you have a 4 amp fuse and you are running 1 volt or 200 volts through it, as long as it doesn't exceed 4 amps.
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True. However, the correlation is that voltage and amperage are inversely proportional. So a 12-volt radiator fan in a car with a transversely mounted engine would go through a 30-Amp fuse. Yet, a household motor that does the equivalent amount of work would take no more than 3 Amp, except maybe for starting.
This sort of thing confuses so many. I remember a landlord changing 240-Volt baseboard heaters for 120-volt heaters of the same size, thinking that was why they pulled so much power. I told him that the wattage was the important part there. I told him to check the voltage and amperage on the nameplate. So one was 240 @ 3 amp, and the other was 120 @ 6 amp. Either way, it is 720 VA. I won't get into the whole thing involving RMS and 1.6 here.
Pin soldering question. I've never done this before, so it's interesting watching you discuss the process. But it looks like a bunch of the backs of those pins are all soldered together. And some look isolated from each other. Can you explain that for us? I guess its intentional.
Some of them are for instance the ground so it goes to 5 different places and needs five pins for five wires but they’re all connected together, etc
do you use trifurcon connectors?
No, we just use the original style.
If youre not cheating you're not trying..-Eddie Guerrero-
‘70s women were so hot!
Old iron core transformers has higher no load voltage compared to nominal load voltage._
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Hey I sent you a private message about an arcade machine that can use your love.
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You should keep a box and put all the old pinballs in it instead of throwing them into the trash, that way when you have enough weight saved up you can scrap them at a scrap yard and get some monies back. Please try this as that is precious metal thats getting tossed into a landfill.
That’s how hoarding starts