GCN please do a vegan one! Not to be preachy but there is a huge demographic of viewers that would love it! And it's a great cause! You know it make sense...
I eat meat and want to become a good cyclist. It looks like all pro cyclists eat meat, but the people commenting on this video (half of which have probably never stepped on a bike) say that veganism is the only way to be a good cyclist! Of course these RUclips commentators know more than pro tour team nutritionalists so I will now become a vegan thanks to their useful "go vegan" comments!
+Ciaran Dawson No need for the sarcasm really. All the vegans watching this channel are most likely pretty avid cyclists. I would like to think that vegans attain anything that non vegans would hope to - without the cruelty and without accepting the global environmental impact of the meat and dairy industries. Peace brother.
Freedom of choice eat what ever works you and enjoy the ride. I give GCN credit for these videos because every time they do it someone wants to hijacked the narrative. You're entitled to your opinion but please don't force believe on the rest of us.
Gotta love all these vegans saying "CTFU","High Carb is the way to go", "go vegan", but where are the vegans athletes in the pro peloton, you would think that if this vegan thing was as effective as they proselytize, that pro teams would be all over that.
I'm vegetarian, and I find a filling bowl of porridge with fruit to be a great pre ride meal and a peanut butter and banana sandwich with wholemeal seeded bread a great post ride meal.
From what I heard, during the Tour de France most of Team Sky riders were on a ketogenic diet and supplementing with exogenous ketones. Fat-adapted athletes perform better in endurance events than do carb-adapted.
+Daniel Tagge Going hard without carbs just burns your muscles (they burn a lot easier than fat). Going in a race without any carbs in ya is just plain stupid, no way they were on a ketonic diet in the TDF.
You guys do so many great videos that I feel bad complaining LOL but we didn't learning much here in this one! As I think it was Team Sky that did a period of low carb diet in the offseason to "prime" the guys for insulin/leptin and all that good stuff when they went high carb again during competition, THAT would be have been real interesting. And isn't it Team Sky that flies in their own meat as well? I was also surprised by the pasta. I'm not really gluten intolerant but I perform way better without wheat products - there are rice pastas BTW. Same for dairy - he mentions yogourt.
a few questions and comments. 1. Do you batch cook for everyone in the team, or do you cater for individual dietary requirements, eg vegan? 2. I assume that "timing" would be related to each individual's metabolic rate and not just a case of yelling, "pigs to the swill" at 8pm so that they are good to go the following day at 7am It was a change to see a nutritionist who was not 30kg overweight with a belly like a zeppelin
1. If one rider in the team has a diet requirement (gluten free or low fibre etc, there are pretty much no vegan pros) then the entire team eats to that diet. 2. Everyone eats at the same time.
+Northvegan Cycling Yes, actually read the study see how the data in the China study is fudged across the board. Anyone with any level of scientific mind will see tons of flaws in the reasoning and method used in the study. So while it might be a supportive study, it just doesn't stand on its own because of its numerous flaws...
Correctamundo my friend. Listen to this to hear Harley being schooled by Ben Greenfield. He still hasn't put his money where his mouth is where the challenge with Peter Attia is concerned.
+Anthony SibleyV Why? 95-99% of my consumption is already vegan, whole-foods. The 1-5% are things I enjoy and are statistically insignificant when it comes to health impacts based of frequency of consumption.
Ciaran Dawson *beans and rice A cyclist would have to be retarded to eat high fat foods. Even in the video they said they wouldn't eat steak, because the power to weight ratio is terrible. You need carbs.
Ciaran Dawson Steak is fat and protein. No carbs, or fiber. Do you know what energy jells contain? carbs. Not fat. Carbs give you energy. If you don't have enough carbs you will hit the wall. ketones do not give you enough energy, and there are long term health effects.
+Vegan MasterRace do you notice the only butthurt sounding comments are from vegans??? us meat eaters are happy with life, everyone has the right to choose what they eat and not made to feel bad about it, i fully respect the concept of veganism but don't need to be told how bad i am everytime i eat animal products, thats my choice and i keep it to myself, i wish vegans would do the same thing
+La ne any true GCN fan knows you are a vegan troll. If you think Greger is God, have a look at how this report tears him a new a. www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/death-as-a-foodborne-illness-curable-by-veganism/
+La ne- Allen who works for the meat industry, believes in this 70 year old skeptic. He is not up to date with nutritional facts. He is a paid troll. Fat guy sitting in his basement, sorry for him really.
+redauwg911 hahahaha. You vegans are so weak in sports and in your facts. If you consider a male who is 6 foot tall and 160 pounds with 15% body fat as being a fat person you are really deluded. I'm flying out to Mallorca for a cycling training camp later this evening so don't bother feeling sorry for me. Get busy reading up on the latest findings on how government agencies lied to us all about nutrition and pushed a low fat diet on us all. You vegans are only frustrated because millions of people have woke up the fact that fats are good and it leaves you marginalised even more. I feel sorry for you dude..
+Luke GJ Potter My guess is that their meal plans coincide with their training plans to coincide with season goals of when to peak. Diet is all about fueling your body for the performance required, and then providing the right building blocks to repair the stress from training. Low carb may be part of the overall plan, and not meant as a sustained every-day diet.
get your just desserts did people get that pun? i feel more people should have got that, especially because matt swallowed a whole chocolate thing in a second for comedic effect. good effort :)
Its the big dog small dog mentality. The vegans need to be extremely loud to get noticed, whereas the normal people just sit back and enjoy the video, then dropping all the vegans around who haven't had their 30 bananas they need to cycle 10km without bonking.
Mr_ Crabby I'm saying that as a vegan, because vegans have reason on our side. There is no argument against veganism. You don't have to go vegan, but you cannot deny it is a healthier and better way to live. For our health, and the environment.
+Craig Browne Well done... Please advise where I need to apply that correction? Preaching vegans... Don't even know what nutrition is, just blindly follow what some Australian making monies from your stupidity. Comedy gold.
Such an idiot you are, dumb as fuck, little kid troll haha. fuckyou looser, Trans fat, cholesterol . cancer, great diet meathead. Go read a nutrition book fucktard.
A very nice vid once again! keep up the good work and i trust you guys will stay nuanced as always and not give in to the annoying know it all brainwashed vegans commenting on here.
+Vegan MasterRace How many acres of land does it take to grow enough chia to feed the entire human population? How much water? I'm only asking because you are the spokesperson for the "master race" and therefore should know all the answers.
When are professional cyclist going to move over to being keto and burning fat which is a huge metabolic advantage. I predict the cyclists who do will break world records.
Secrets? Nothing revolutionary here, and more, their strategy is very basic and far from best one. We all now what make their results, some others aspects look like from relative serious amateur one, includind nutrition. Make me laugh when they act the "perfect pros".
"Click on Matt, you know it makes sense". Haven't heard that tag line in ages!
GCN please do a vegan one! Not to be preachy but there is a huge demographic of viewers that would love it! And it's a great cause! You know it make sense...
I love the little Norwegian flag on the chef's collar! Pure class. #attentiontodetail
Marginal gains
+Mickey Pius
+ 5 cooking skills
As i sit here, eating pringles and complaining about why i'm not loosing weight from cycling LOL
+leolol Me im chowing down Cheetos
+leolol and I've plowed through 1/4 lb of M&M's.
digestive biscuits are my downfall
+leolol go vegan and you'll look like a TdF winner
Technically, you should lose weight, because after all pringles are carbs ROFL
I eat meat and want to become a good cyclist. It looks like all pro cyclists eat meat, but the people commenting on this video (half of which have probably never stepped on a bike) say that veganism is the only way to be a good cyclist! Of course these RUclips commentators know more than pro tour team nutritionalists so I will now become a vegan thanks to their useful "go vegan" comments!
+Ciaran Dawson No need for the sarcasm really. All the vegans watching this channel are most likely pretty avid cyclists.
I would like to think that vegans attain anything that non vegans would hope to - without the cruelty and without accepting the global environmental impact of the meat and dairy industries.
Peace brother.
Yeah dude do you even strava?
+123456bmx, yes I do, averaging six rides a week.
Freedom of choice eat what ever works you and enjoy the ride. I give GCN credit for these videos because every time they do it someone wants to hijacked the narrative. You're entitled to your opinion but please don't force believe on the rest of us.
+nightfly222 Most subtle reprimand to annoying commenters i ever saw, chapeu good sir :)
more elaboration on timing please
sugar sugar sugar 👍
+MRGRUMPY53 Emm what? Could you possibly cite your sources?
+Aidan custy his mate down the pub and another on a cycling forum
ruin your teeth and give you a sugar crash.
+experiment54 lol
+Edward Jimenez sugar doesn't do anything bad to your teeth.
Gotta love all these vegans saying "CTFU","High Carb is the way to go", "go vegan", but where are the vegans athletes in the pro peloton, you would think that if this vegan thing was as effective as they proselytize, that pro teams would be all over that.
Exactly! Couldn't agree more
Thinking exactly the same thing.
For the maximal performance gain all pro teams are on a "blood type diet", thanks to Dr. Fuentes & Dr. Ferrari.
CTFU! :D
Insightful information. Great job Matt!
I'm vegetarian, and I find a filling bowl of porridge with fruit to be a great pre ride meal and a peanut butter and banana sandwich with wholemeal seeded bread a great post ride meal.
Did Matt ever mess up the end board lines on purpose just to get to eat more dessert?
+Matthew Martin you got it.
Please elaborate on said "timing" :D this is big for me. I use my commutes to train and sometimes "timing" is difficult.
Sugar & water 😊
I'm gonna go eat a big juicy half pound steak for every vegan comment I see here.
+Danial Arif I will help you. Go vegan.
Go vegan
+Danial Arif I'm not a vegan, but why do you act like such a childish douchebag?
+johanneshint my apologies. shall I eat another steak to regain my adulthood?
thts not offensive why would you think it was?
From what I heard, during the Tour de France most of Team Sky riders were on a ketogenic diet and supplementing with exogenous ketones. Fat-adapted athletes perform better in endurance events than do carb-adapted.
+Daniel Tagge Hahahaha! Any athlete who claims to be on a low carb diet is full of lies.
+Daniel Tagge Going hard without carbs just burns your muscles (they burn a lot easier than fat). Going in a race without any carbs in ya is just plain stupid, no way they were on a ketonic diet in the TDF.
You guys do so many great videos that I feel bad complaining LOL but we didn't learning much here in this one! As I think it was Team Sky that did a period of low carb diet in the offseason to "prime" the guys for insulin/leptin and all that good stuff when they went high carb again during competition, THAT would be have been real interesting. And isn't it Team Sky that flies in their own meat as well?
I was also surprised by the pasta. I'm not really gluten intolerant but I perform way better without wheat products - there are rice pastas BTW. Same for dairy - he mentions yogourt.
a few questions and comments.
1. Do you batch cook for everyone in the team, or do you cater for individual dietary requirements, eg vegan?
2. I assume that "timing" would be related to each individual's metabolic rate and not just a case of yelling, "pigs to the swill" at 8pm so that they are good to go the following day at 7am
It was a change to see a nutritionist who was not 30kg overweight with a belly like a zeppelin
+bikeanddogtrips none of the riders are vegan
+bikeanddogtrips that is only one question, and as he said it is mostly their choice, the cook makes food for the whole team sky not just the riders.
1. If one rider in the team has a diet requirement (gluten free or low fibre etc, there are pretty much no vegan pros) then the entire team eats to that diet.
2. Everyone eats at the same time.
An Ulsterman on Team Sky, that has made my day!
Matt, how many takes for the last scene?
Carb the fuck up, go vegan.
👍👍👍🍌🍌🍌
+QuixoticQuaver this video was specifically made for +durianrider
Sarah Rattle haha, feels like it.
And read the China study!!!!!
+Northvegan Cycling Yes, actually read the study see how the data in the China study is fudged across the board. Anyone with any level of scientific mind will see tons of flaws in the reasoning and method used in the study. So while it might be a supportive study, it just doesn't stand on its own because of its numerous flaws...
Team Sky dietitians, doctors and coaches put world-class athletes on world-stage podiums. Harley Jonstone does not.
+silversx80 GO VEGAN
Correctamundo my friend.
Listen to this to hear Harley being schooled by Ben Greenfield.
He still hasn't put his money where his mouth is where the challenge with Peter Attia is concerned.
Here's the link... www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2013/10/30-bananas-a-day-diet/
+Anthony SibleyV Why? 95-99% of my consumption is already vegan, whole-foods. The 1-5% are things I enjoy and are statistically insignificant when it comes to health impacts based of frequency of consumption.
Being vegan is about ethics dude
do they ever get their blood work done to check their vitamin and mineral levels, i heard most of them take zinc supplements.
good show .
I m starving to loose just my 5 kilos i gained over winter. But how much carb do I really have to take to not loose to many muscle?
+Chris Bee Watch durianrider. He has some great advice on that.
To avoid loosing muscle you want protein. Look towards foods such as eggs and steak.
Ciaran Dawson *beans and rice
A cyclist would have to be retarded to eat high fat foods. Even in the video they said they wouldn't eat steak, because the power to weight ratio is terrible. You need carbs.
+Vegan MasterRace - power to weight ratio of steak? What are you on mate 😂😂
Have you ever even been on a bike?
Ciaran Dawson Steak is fat and protein. No carbs, or fiber.
Do you know what energy jells contain? carbs. Not fat. Carbs give you energy.
If you don't have enough carbs you will hit the wall.
ketones do not give you enough energy, and there are long term health effects.
Buthurt low carbers incoming.
+Vegan MasterRace do you notice the only butthurt sounding comments are from vegans??? us meat eaters are happy with life, everyone has the right to choose what they eat and not made to feel bad about it, i fully respect the concept of veganism but don't need to be told how bad i am everytime i eat animal products, thats my choice and i keep it to myself, i wish vegans would do the same thing
Mr_ Crabby freedom of choice right?! 200 years ago, it was all about freedom of choice to own slaves.
and 70 years ago hitler called the nazi's a master race, and that didn't pan out very well for them did it?? whats your point??
Mr_ Crabby If ones free will requires concentration camps, then there is a problem.
now in interpretable English please?
Was not expecting to see so many fellow vegans in the comments!
CTFU!
+Vegan MasterRace i like your sarcasm!!! lol
you need to watch more cycling vids then as the vegans jump on it within seconds, god bless them
Viva la vegan revolusion
+Mr_ Crabby Don't you mean cow bless them? I think the traditional westerners mythical god is cool with animal consumption.
I think my favorite word ever used on this show has to be "cookery". I'm going to incorporate that word into my American vocabulary.
I love the way I was eating Percy pigs while watching this!
"The three Ts" sounds like a expert in nutrition - would definitely give someone like Michael Greger a run for his money!!!
Erm.... not.
***** where did i say the word vegan?
+La ne any true GCN fan knows you are a vegan troll.
If you think Greger is God, have a look at how this report tears him a new a.
www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/death-as-a-foodborne-illness-curable-by-veganism/
+La ne- Allen who works for the meat industry, believes in this 70 year old skeptic. He is not up to date with nutritional facts. He is a paid troll. Fat guy sitting in his basement, sorry for him really.
+redauwg911 hahahaha. You vegans are so weak in sports and in your facts. If you consider a male who is 6 foot tall and 160 pounds with 15% body fat as being a fat person you are really deluded.
I'm flying out to Mallorca for a cycling training camp later this evening so don't bother feeling sorry for me. Get busy reading up on the latest findings on how government agencies lied to us all about nutrition and pushed a low fat diet on us all.
You vegans are only frustrated because millions of people have woke up the fact that fats are good and it leaves you marginalised even more.
I feel sorry for you dude..
+alan hall you literally counter-content every single one of my comments on GCNs channel. you probably are a paid troll.
"secrets"
Whoa, is that a Ford Fusion wagon!
Is that team sky olive oil on the table?
+richard aydon it is!
I want some!
So when do we get a retraction and public apology for all that "Low carb" dogma?
Please ask them about the "Low Cadence" training too.
+Luke GJ Potter I ain't pro but I'm low carb and it is a huge advantage in most sports.
+Luke GJ Potter My guess is that their meal plans coincide with their training plans to coincide with season goals of when to peak. Diet is all about fueling your body for the performance required, and then providing the right building blocks to repair the stress from training. Low carb may be part of the overall plan, and not meant as a sustained every-day diet.
+Green Deane huge advantage. You serious mate? Like seriously, you would hit the wall so fast in ketosis.
most likely they do have some low cad days early in the season. but to spin is to win but mixing it up once in awille is key
Gets my vote as the biggest waste of a GCN Video
carbs for the win
I actually thought Matt was talking about an army crawling around on its stomach. Funny image, really
third? for the podium
To all people in the comment section below: Why not find a compromise??? I usually eat my steak with pasta!!!
Surprised to see prawns in the spread. I didn't realise they were overly nutritious.
The irony of a MacDonalds ad preceding this 🤔
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One day i will own a restaurant in Calpe called 'Alberto's Steak Ranch'. First five customers will get a free cerveza and a pistol.
Saddle adjustment of hybrid bike
You missed EPO and anabolic steroids...
You really have it tough, Matt.
Meldonium is nice too.
huge secrets released in this video. woah!
Secrets? More like a shot of EPO with each meal
What a load of bollocks. High carb vegan diet is the only way to do it. 😑SMH
CFTW
CTFU!
Yawn!
CTFU go vegan
in b4 vegans
Go Vegan.
+Officer Baron GO VEGAN
That waste of space durianrider gets a few lessons from Ben Greenfield here. www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2013/10/30-bananas-a-day-diet/
+Anthony SibleyV Go whatever you like
GO VEGAN!
Vegans, we go hard, we go hard...
CokeTFU!!
I'd love to know how many deleted comments there are going to be on this video : )
Wonder how many pieces of cake it took Matt to do that take #cheesecakebazooka
The real secret is behind that covered board, ja, ja 2:12
Norwegian chef👍🏻
get your just desserts did people get that pun? i feel more people should have got that, especially because matt swallowed a whole chocolate thing in a second for comedic effect. good effort :)
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CTFU GO VEGAN
Carb the fruit up🍌
So no one at Sky is experimenting with high fat diet?
what are the timing type and total numbers.. How can we normal humans calculate this... Come on, give it to us....
Whats up with all those vegan comments?
Is every cyclist nowadays vegan or what?
Its the big dog small dog mentality. The vegans need to be extremely loud to get noticed, whereas the normal people just sit back and enjoy the video, then dropping all the vegans around who haven't had their 30 bananas they need to cycle 10km without bonking.
+Testconroler The fat meat heads can't keep up on the bike or nutrition wise haha
+redauwg911 yeah, tell that Marco Pantani when he roasts your vegan ass with 7,2w/kg. Hahaha
Yo
Basic manners rule, everyone was taught this as a kid, weren't they? Don't talk with your mouth full!
second :( so close
are there any vegan pro cyclists?
+James McKenzie Would be nice to know. Haven't heard of any yet.
Scottish man in the first interview
Oops I'm sorry now I feel stupid lol :) thanks for correcting me
+Nathan .H dw, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, ... Northern
Sky seem to do pretty well at this cycling malarkey. Even though their entire nutrition strategy is wrong.
Must just be some kind of anomaly.
What would you recommend? They might give you a job.
You're too smart for me.
Yeah. Way to much meat and fat. They should be eating at least 80% carbs.
+Vegan MasterRace lmao I think he's being sarcastic
+Edward Jimenez I know. Just think how much better they would be If they were vegan.
B-but muh keto...
how do you spot a vegan......
Don't they'll tell you!
Vegans can't even have real icecream.. Why limit yourself when life is already so short
+Bowtieinthesky ouo Vegans live longer. Why limit yourself by eating meat when life is already so short?
+Bowtieinthesky ouo Theres vegan ice cream lol
+james grainger vegans are also full of shit.
+Bowtieinthesky ouo Why is diary free icecream "not real"? Why have others live a shitty life for your icecream?
Go vegan or go home!
+Vegan MasterRace please go home!!! your comments are stupid, and boring
Mr_ Crabby ad hominem fallacy.
lol your actually saying that as a vegan?? trolling everyone else's comments??? maybe you should go google it for its meaning!!
Mr_ Crabby I'm saying that as a vegan, because vegans have reason on our side. There is no argument against veganism. You don't have to go vegan, but you cannot deny it is a healthier and better way to live. For our health, and the environment.
no thats not true is soo many scientifically proven studies, please come back with something better
I'm a vegan, therefore I am an idiot. Ask me anything!!
+Arran Jacobs OK your a idiot,
+Craig Browne You're.
+Arran Jacobs I'm.
+Craig Browne Well done... Please advise where I need to apply that correction? Preaching vegans... Don't even know what nutrition is, just blindly follow what some Australian making monies from your stupidity. Comedy gold.
Such an idiot you are, dumb as fuck, little kid troll haha. fuckyou looser, Trans fat, cholesterol . cancer, great diet meathead. Go read a nutrition book fucktard.
Matt, didn't your mother ever say not to eat with your mouth full?
Beware angry vegans incoming.
Cool but personally I only eat steak and only drink milk.
More like, beware of buthurt paleo meatheads.
SKY/INEOS nutrition : 💊💉
esooooooooooo
A very nice vid once again! keep up the good work and i trust you guys will stay nuanced as always and not give in to the annoying know it all brainwashed vegans commenting on here.
Go vegan bruh! You are the one who is brainwashed.
+Vegan MasterRace Na ah, we're the brainwashed, not the ones who are just eating what they were told without ever thinking about it.
+Vegan MasterRace How many acres of land does it take to grow enough chia to feed the entire human population? How much water? I'm only asking because you are the spokesperson for the "master race" and therefore should know all the answers.
Go Morgan Freeman!
He's the best! Go Morgan Freeman, go!
This video could have been really interesting, but told us absolutely nothing about nutrition.
When are professional cyclist going to move over to being keto and burning fat which is a huge metabolic advantage. I predict the cyclists who do will break world records.
+Green Deane Where's your Strava, bruh?
Loool, Paleo Faileo crew.
Lmao. I will beat anyone on ketosis up a hill.
+Green Deane I've been riding for a while and i never had any kito rider do more than 160km before bonking...i go 400 plus once i na while easily :)
+Vegan MasterRace anyone? That's a huge statement which is likely a load of lies considering you're a vegan...
First
urannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
drugs loads of drugs
Secrets? Nothing revolutionary here, and more, their strategy is very basic and far from best one.
We all now what make their results, some others aspects look like from relative serious amateur one, includind nutrition. Make me laugh when they act the "perfect pros".