Good refresher, the most common rule violation I see at my club is the 'Nearest Point of Relief', where as you said , it is not the best nearest spot but the closest spot, the number of times I have pointed this out and been told that they were told what they were doing is correct by a Pennant player would make me a wealthy person.
A fun, but educational video this time. Its like watching a round of golf with my pals on a Friday, we have all of these examples cropping up, which does lead to the occasional falling out!!! Well done Hannah keep up the good work 😃
Thanks Hannah for clearing up the rules. I certainly didn’t know about the arc length from the nearest point of relief from the path. Best wishes with your new channel. ❤🏌️♀️
This would be great to show at clubhouses up and down the country. Learning the actual rules is worth doing; keeps the game fair and your personal integrity intact. Cheers
Great to see you have your own Channel, Hannah. I've been following Your Golf NCG. Loved that content. If you replicate it here, with guidance on course management, rules, etc, then that would be fantastic.
Hi Hannah … The RUclips algorithm brought up your video which I am so pleased about as I was absolutely gobsmacked when I watched your first one that came from Hickleton golf club. I immigrated to Western Australia nearly 20 years ago and Hickleton was my old club. I also lived in the village. Mum is still a member there and I half expected seeing her in the background whilst you were filming as she goes most days ha ha. Currently playing off 25 hcp. Apparently my practice swing is totally different when I get over the ball with disastrous results, have a big overswing and tend to stab at the ball. Help required please. Yvonne
Good video. The one comment I'll make about advice which is commonly misunderstood is that public information is not advice. If someone asks you if there's any danger around the corner, you can tell them. You also can give them distances or an opinion on the wind direction. What you can't do is tell them something that might influence their shot choice such as "you definitely want to hit something less than driver" or "wind's off the right so I'd play a cut up against it" or "the line you want to take is at that right bunker." Just tell them facts and let them make their own decision on the shot they want to play.
Hi Hannah, brand new to the channel but have seen it pop up quite a few times as I am subscribed to several UK channels. I passed the R & A level 2 rules exam with merit, which is about 90 t0 95% I think. Thank you for this video, a very good explanation of some of the more common scenarios which players take liberties with. Well explained, verbally and visually. On another point with the channel and I have noticed this on other channels I subscribe to. There is a disproportionate amount of views to subscribers to likes. Look at this one, 20K views, 7.57K subscribers and only 1.4K likes (although with this video you may have dashed some viewers reality about their better scores). I think it's a tech issue. I watch a lot of my subscriptions on the big smart TV so I can see the course on the big screen. My smart TV is not smart enough to let me "like" or make comments. I always make a point of comming back to the laptop, to like and comment. Maybe in a future video you can work that in for your audience and provide better stats for the channel.
@@ianmcmillan2634 ah thank you very much! Yes a few people have mentioned this in the past, shame YT haven’t found a fix. Not quite sure how I can get around that though! Maybe a verbal prompt
In tournament play, these are great reminders... in friendly play, i give relief to about anything, clubs are expensive or unreplaceable.. i make sure that everyone is on-board with friendly play.. 1 person says no, gloves off and i am watching them extra close..
Nice video thank you 🙏 will have to watch your other videos to find out about plugged balls , especially now the Autumn 🍂 November Rain ☔️ as Guns n Roses put it
Another excellent video ! I guess the ball on that pathway you showed , you can if you want still play it as it lies and not be dropping in a bush ?? If it was a hole coming in and you had a great score going you might consider scuffing your club 🤔
Well now that I am retired, I am not concerned about all the nitty gritty rules when I play my Round - just play basic rules. I am out just for exercise, enjoy the walking, and most the time I don't even play for total score. I just play my golf hole by hole and try to shoot for Pars. Most holes are too long for me now if I play the mens regular tees. I feel if I can walk, I can play golf - being 76 years old now. Thanks for the video. Take care.
Hannah, don’t forget that when taking relief from the path in your scenario, take your stance with the club you intend to hit, mark where your ball would be, you then have a club length in an arc from where your ball was , not nearer the hole. There is a very good diagram in the R&A rule book 16.1a.
Nice video... The looking into the bag of someone else to know what they've hit is a recipe for disaster anyway! I think it was Adam Scott that was playing with Tiger when starting on the tour and Tiger noticed he was looking (not touching, but hey, at least he didn't break the rule) at what he was hitting so he started messing with him, hitting a 7i 150 yards and then a 8i 190 yards and finally told him that you don't know if the guy hits it fast or not, what loft he has on his clubs, if he "chipped" a 80% or "pushed" at 110% for this or that shot... So yeah, know your distances and forget what others play (particularly valid for any 15+ hcp playing with most low single figure players as the speeds and lofts are typically wildly different).
Actually to the first rule, (no removing sand or soil to improve your conditions affecting the stroke), there is another situation where you are allowed to remove sand or soil on your line of play. And that is if it is a mound built by a worm, insect or similar animal. Such as worm casts or ant hills. In this case it is defined as a loose impediment and may be removed in any way under rule 15.1a
This needs to be shown to every match and handicap secretary in the country. Your first rule breach moving sand, mud and other material in front of the ball on the fringe is without doubt the most abused rule in my club. I suspect for just about every club competition elsewhere it's the same but no one calls it.
Great explanations! Is it correct that if my playing partner is on the green, and I am off the green - with a pitch mark on my line - I can ask my playing partner to fix it without penalty? Up to them if they fix it or not...
2:05 if your golf ball make a pitch mark on the green then rolls off, can you repair it if is on you line to the hole? Or if it an old one? Before you take your next shot.
(HEALTH WARNING: I haven't been playing all that long and tend to play socially rather than in competitions) So if you can't repair pitchmarks on the fringe or apron, does that mean you also can't replace someone else's divot? If you see a big divot in the fairway and the freshly excavated strip is a couple of yards ahead, having clearly been made by someone only one or two groups ahead, surely it's good manners to replace it? Or is it in fact okay to replace it, but only after you've played your shot? As I walk along the fairway (on the rare occasions when I'm not zigzagging from the rough on one side to the rough on the other!) I'll often do a quick repair on someone else's fresh damage as I pass it. Loving the new channel and new content by the way! Subscribed!
Good question!! So you can’t replace it before you hit your shot IF it is around your ball, in your stance or in your line of play. But you can replace it afterwards. If you just walk past a random divot not near your ball you can replace it. Thanks!
The slow play rule is a difficult one and I would imagine that most club golfers would not try to apply it since it would probably create ill-will. As a general rule at my club, if a group is so slow that they lose a clear hole, that is regarded as slow play. If my ball is beneath a tree and I shuffle in to create my stance, but in doing so my body pushes back some of the branches, am I correct in believing that, provided I do not break any of the branches, I would not incur a penalty?
I think you should also mention Model Local Rule E-5 for lost or balls hit OB which is there for pace of play so you don't have to take the "walk of shame" and hold up play, and this rule can be used for HC rounds even if the course doesn't state it's in effect.
Hi Hanna, you mentioned you MUST mark a ball to identify it. Question if you do not mark a ball, pick it up and it is not yours, are you still penalised?
Hi Hannah Regarding your first point and this time of year, what if the area is covered in leaves? Can you remove them as long as the ball doesn't move?
Regarding slow play... last year I played an invitational competition (in a promotional, friendly atmosphere) where greens were super fast and pins were set up really difficult, so there was "slowliness" simply due to shooting more shots, making less putts, marking the ball more etc. My foursome was verbally warned about that without penalty and watched by a referee for a few holes afterwards. I've found it quite stressful even though I played every shot in my time limit (40 seconds, right?). That was a strange case of slow play for me due to the set up of the course in regards to the general level of the competition.
I'll take issue with the opening line: "have you accidently cheated?" If accidental, it is a rules infraction as opposed to "cheating." The word "cheat" implies intent. It is tough to keep all the rules straight especially under the restraint of the mentioned rule against slow play. Try to learn the rules and inquire with a playing partner before making a doubtful move. Take the penalty and learn from it. One common rule violation that I see even experienced players make is dropping from a permanent immovable obstruction. It is SO common to end up on a cart path that is good to know what you can and can't do. I'm not sure you mentioned that in taking relief, it must be "complete relief" (swing and stance). Good video. Golf is tough and the rules can get a bit complex.
Good job Hannah! Most of all the players I know should watch this! How bout doing a video on course etiquette? That would be something useful for many as well. Keep up the great content, you're awesome!
I'm under a tree branch and when I stand up, the tree branch moves. Have I improved my lie even though the branch is not impacting my contact with the ball? In my area, most courses are cut into the surrounding forest and its quite common to play errant shots out from under trees.
@@craigseaver8062 you are allowed to back into the tree/bush in a reasonable way to hit the shot so this would be fine. You would only get a penalty if you snapped part of the tree off to improve your shot
I was surprised by the ruling to not take sand away from the ball in the playing area , as I understood that for example small stones from a path that have got onto the playing area is considered loose impediments and can be removed , why not sand
The rule I see broken most often is people taking "back on the line" relief. They go back on the line they went into the crap, instead of back on the direction of play which would be even deeper into the rough.
Lots of club players in Saturday competition break these rules. Most will just say. I am out on this hole, pick up, take 0 points in stableford competition and move to next tee.
This might be a stupid question but if it's a stableford competition - and you're out of shots on a particular hole and can't score - what's wrong with picking up and moving on to the next tee? I'd have thought continuing on a hole when you can't score potentially contributes to slow play and picking-up should be encouraged in those circumstances (especially in winter when daylight hours are shorter and it might be a struggle to get a competition finished before it gets dark!).
Another question. If you take a drop does it have to be the same kind of ball you played off the tee. Or can switch ball type after you've finished a hole?
6.3b Substitution of Another Ball While Playing Hole (1) When Player Is Allowed and Not Allowed to Substitute Another Ball. Certain Rules allow a player to change the ball they are using to play a hole by substituting another ball as the ball in play, and others do not: - When taking relief under a Rule, including when either dropping a ball or placing a ball (such as when a ball will not stay in the relief area or when taking relief on the putting green), the player may use either the original ball or another ball (Rule 14.3a), - When playing again from where a previous stroke was made, the player may use either the original ball or another ball (Rule 14.6), and - When replacing a ball on a spot, the player is not allowed to substitute a ball and must use the original ball, with certain exceptions (Rule 14.2a). A player may also substitute another ball if the original ball is damaged (note that paiint and scuffs do not count as damage) See Rule 4.2.
You can change ball as long as you’re not in an elite am or pro event where they have a one ball rule in place and you have to use the same type all the time!
I think what happens to a lot of us is that, in casual friendly rounds, some of these rules breach general, "common sense" PITA guidelines......PITA being an acronym for Pain In The........ So we don't follow them. We play "common sense", and our playing partners in our group do generally the same and no one minds. We develop habits, and forget the actual strict rules used to regulate competitions where consensus "common sense" cannot be relied on. Then, when we do get out in competition, our habits to avoid a Pain In The..... come back to bite us in the..... Hee. 😁😁😁
What if under a tree I trying to take my natural stance and I Mistakenly break a branch? Is that ok? What if that same mistakenly broken branch was also impeding my backswing? It was all a mistake.
I've had a rule book in my bag for about 25 years, updated copies of course, but in all that time I've used it maybe twice (and I can't remember the second time). We vets use common sense and rarely resort to rule books. Should we? Probably but we're more interested in keeping moving than checking our rule books.
I was lucky enough to go to September School Holidays golf camp when I was 12 through until I was 18 (now 74) and rules were drilled into us every morning. As a cadet, pre-junior, we were never allowed to play with more than two young players. We had rules AND ETIQUETTE imposed like you wouldn't believe these days and, to this day, I always simply play the ball as I find it.
Concerning the situation in which a player takes unplayable ball relief from a boundary object: Correct of course that one of the relief options is dropping the ball within two club-lengths. But: the ball must be dropped in bounds, not out of bounds. Sorry for bring a wise-guy...
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Good refresher, the most common rule violation I see at my club is the 'Nearest Point of Relief', where as you said , it is not the best nearest spot but the closest spot, the number of times I have pointed this out and been told that they were told what they were doing is correct by a Pennant player would make me a wealthy person.
😅😅 there’s always an excuse isn’t there
Love your vids!! Funny thing is I could not understand why I don't see you on RUclips anymore, them you popped up and I had to subscribe again! 🥰
LOL Whenever English folk say "shrubbery" I always laugh because it reminds me of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
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Ni!
@@seanbaines bwahahahahaha!!!!! 😅😅😅
Great video.
@@petermcgill1315 thanks!!
Your own channel 🙌💪 welcome back!
Yes! Thank you! 🙌🏼
Your video is an excellent reminder of rules that many of us may get wrong. Thanks for this excellent refresher.
@@mpare49 thank you so much 🙌🏻
Thank you!
I’m studying for my golf exam and your video is very helpful. It is much better and entertaining than boring books.
Happy to help!!!
I think that once you get an understanding of the concept behind the rules they are easier to understand. Thanks for the content, very helpful.
Yes definitely true and thank you!
Thanks , I learned lots
Great video very informative 👏
Loving the rules video, I’m aware of all but think my team mates would benefit! Great content, keep going.
Thank you 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thanks Hannah, nice to have a refresher of the rules, I know a few people that I can show this to!!😂😂
😂😂 get it sent to them!!
A fun, but educational video this time. Its like watching a round of golf with my pals on a Friday, we have all of these examples cropping up, which does lead to the occasional falling out!!! Well done Hannah keep up the good work 😃
Glad it was helpful!
Hannah you're doing a fantastic job with your new channel. I really enjoy your videos.
Thank you so much!!!
Thanks Hannah for clearing up the rules. I certainly didn’t know about the arc length from the nearest point of relief from the path. Best wishes with your new channel. ❤🏌️♀️
Glad it was helpful! And thank you!!!
This would be great to show at clubhouses up and down the country.
Learning the actual rules is worth doing; keeps the game fair and your personal integrity intact.
Cheers
Yes 😅 on loop in the bar 😂
Great explanation! I have seen loads of people get a few of these wrong!
Thanks!
That’s what I thought. But good to get it confirmed. Many thx.
No problem!
Thanks - a really useful refresher. It's amazing what you forget.
Glad it was helpful! 🙌🏻
Congrats on the new channel!!!
Thank you!! 🤩
Clear and straightforward. Everyone should be mandated to watch this. (PS: Hannah, you're a good actress when peeking in another player's bag.)
Thanks 🙌🏻🙌🏻 and 😂😂😂
Brilliant video, Absolutely Awesome RUclips Channel.
Hard enough to master the golf swing before thinking about rules, but thanks for starting the next chapter of my golf journey.
Absolutely 😅 they aren’t as bad as they seem
Very useful. You could also have mentioned that when you mark and pick up a ball to identify it, you are not allowed to clean it.
Yes good point
Good clear explanations on the rules of golf Hannah.Watched this again.I’m sure I did add a comment first time round.That comment may have got lost.
thank you!!
Great to see you have your own Channel, Hannah. I've been following Your Golf NCG. Loved that content. If you replicate it here, with guidance on course management, rules, etc, then that would be fantastic.
Thank you! Will do!
love the way you explain stuff
Thank you!!
Hi Hannah … The RUclips algorithm brought up your video which I am so pleased about as I was absolutely gobsmacked when I watched your first one that came from Hickleton golf club. I immigrated to Western Australia nearly 20 years ago and Hickleton was my old club. I also lived in the village. Mum is still a member there and I half expected seeing her in the background whilst you were filming as she goes most days ha ha.
Currently playing off 25 hcp. Apparently my practice swing is totally different when I get over the ball with disastrous results, have a big overswing and tend to stab at the ball. Help required please. Yvonne
Wow! My friend Nicola slater plays there hence why I was there!!
"Just shut up and keep your hands to yourself!" 🤣🤣 Love it!!!
😂😂😂 I was waiting for someone to pick up on that
Hmm, yes. Applies in so many ways, doesn't it.
Great sweater!!
Thank you!! 😀
Thanks Hannah, very helpfull.
Glad it helped!!
Good video. The one comment I'll make about advice which is commonly misunderstood is that public information is not advice. If someone asks you if there's any danger around the corner, you can tell them. You also can give them distances or an opinion on the wind direction. What you can't do is tell them something that might influence their shot choice such as "you definitely want to hit something less than driver" or "wind's off the right so I'd play a cut up against it" or "the line you want to take is at that right bunker." Just tell them facts and let them make their own decision on the shot they want to play.
Yes correct 🙌🏻 also if someone says something to you without you asking you’re all safe
@hannahholdengolf But the person giving this advice without solicitation incurs a penalty, right? Enjoyed your video and subscribed, thank you.
@ yes correct 👍🏼
Good vid. Tee peg in the hair is a strong flex too
😂😂😂 I had no pockets
Hi Hannah, brand new to the channel but have seen it pop up quite a few times as I am subscribed to several UK channels. I passed the R & A level 2 rules exam with merit, which is about 90 t0 95% I think. Thank you for this video, a very good explanation of some of the more common scenarios which players take liberties with. Well explained, verbally and visually. On another point with the channel and I have noticed this on other channels I subscribe to. There is a disproportionate amount of views to subscribers to likes. Look at this one, 20K views, 7.57K subscribers and only 1.4K likes (although with this video you may have dashed some viewers reality about their better scores). I think it's a tech issue. I watch a lot of my subscriptions on the big smart TV so I can see the course on the big screen. My smart TV is not smart enough to let me "like" or make comments. I always make a point of comming back to the laptop, to like and comment. Maybe in a future video you can work that in for your audience and provide better stats for the channel.
@@ianmcmillan2634 ah thank you very much! Yes a few people have mentioned this in the past, shame YT haven’t found a fix. Not quite sure how I can get around that though! Maybe a verbal prompt
Subscribed and liked. Great rules video
thank you so much!!
Keep up the good work !
Thanks, will do!
In tournament play, these are great reminders... in friendly play, i give relief to about anything, clubs are expensive or unreplaceable.. i make sure that everyone is on-board with friendly play.. 1 person says no, gloves off and i am watching them extra close..
Definitely!! Anything goes in fun golf
good presentation thanks very much....
You are welcome!
Great videos, well done! Regarding the OB posts being the way that can’t be moved, does the same apply to penalty area red or yellow post? Thanks
@@Socks-q9b you can move penalty area stakes!
6:34 what about in front of the ball? I had a dead tree branch and wasn’t sure if I could move it.
You can move it if it is loose and not still attached to the ground and as long as your ball doesn’t move while you’re moving it
Cheers Hannah!
no problem!
Nice video thank you 🙏 will have to watch your other videos to find out about plugged balls , especially now the Autumn 🍂 November Rain ☔️ as Guns n Roses put it
Thanks!
Another excellent video !
I guess the ball on that pathway you showed , you can if you want still play it as it lies and not be dropping in a bush ?? If it was a hole coming in and you had a great score going you might consider scuffing your club 🤔
Absolutely you can choose to play it!!
Good video - thanks.
Thank you!
Subbed Hannah, love your content very practical 👍
Amazing thank you!
Well now that I am retired, I am not concerned about all the nitty gritty rules when I play my Round - just play basic rules. I am out just for exercise, enjoy the walking, and most the time I don't even play for total score. I just play my golf hole by hole and try to shoot for Pars. Most holes are too long for me now if I play the mens regular tees. I feel if I can walk, I can play golf - being 76 years old now.
Thanks for the video. Take care.
Enjoyment first 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Hannah, don’t forget that when taking relief from the path in your scenario, take your stance with the club you intend to hit, mark where your ball would be, you then have a club length in an arc from where your ball was , not nearer the hole. There is a very good diagram in the R&A rule book 16.1a.
Yes, I did mention you get a club length arc!
So the arc is from where the ball is”replace”not your body
Nice video... The looking into the bag of someone else to know what they've hit is a recipe for disaster anyway! I think it was Adam Scott that was playing with Tiger when starting on the tour and Tiger noticed he was looking (not touching, but hey, at least he didn't break the rule) at what he was hitting so he started messing with him, hitting a 7i 150 yards and then a 8i 190 yards and finally told him that you don't know if the guy hits it fast or not, what loft he has on his clubs, if he "chipped" a 80% or "pushed" at 110% for this or that shot... So yeah, know your distances and forget what others play (particularly valid for any 15+ hcp playing with most low single figure players as the speeds and lofts are typically wildly different).
Yes you have to know someone else’s game very well to club off them!
Very interesting I know some players don’t mind improving their lie. Also nearest not nicest is very annoying as so many get it wrong
Yes we all know a few people who break these don't we!!
Actually to the first rule, (no removing sand or soil to improve your conditions affecting the stroke), there is another situation where you are allowed to remove sand or soil on your line of play. And that is if it is a mound built by a worm, insect or similar animal. Such as worm casts or ant hills. In this case it is defined as a loose impediment and may be removed in any way under rule 15.1a
@@Ruinsthename yes! But worm casts are classed separately to sand which is why I didn’t mention it but you are 100% right
First two also mean that you should clean up after yourself and repair your pitch marks and divots every time.
Correct!!!
Nice!
Thanks!
Love the jumper. Is it Galvin Green?!?!?! 😂
Thanks! Its actually a random T K Max find
This needs to be shown to every match and handicap secretary in the country. Your first rule breach moving sand, mud and other material in front of the ball on the fringe is without doubt the most abused rule in my club. I suspect for just about every club competition elsewhere it's the same but no one calls it.
Yes very true 😅😅
Accidently? Nope, I know these rules after 30 years of playing, but still love your vids.
😅 I was trying to be nice to people who get them wrong
Winter rules, as it’s on fairway, you can move 6” left or right but no nearer the hole!
Yes correct but it is a local rule your club has to bring in
Really good info., rules can be so boring and tbh some are really old fashioned. Not sure about the jumper! 😂.
The rules can be weird but what’s wrong with my jumper 😳
@ 🤣🤣🤣
A lot of people done seem to realize that free relief from roads and man made obstructions HAS to be 100% relief. I've seen it too many times.
Yes that’s definitely true!
Great explanations!
Is it correct that if my playing partner is on the green, and I am off the green - with a pitch mark on my line - I can ask my playing partner to fix it without penalty? Up to them if they fix it or not...
You can repair a pitch mark on the green whether you are on or off the green! So yes that would be fine
2:05 if your golf ball make a pitch mark on the green then rolls off, can you repair it if is on you line to the hole? Or if it an old one? Before you take your next shot.
Yes you can repair pitchmarks on the green 😃
Is it not allowed to remove worm casts and get relief from mole hills?
Cool video 💯
Thanks! 😃
I'm definitely going to start keeping a tee peg in my plaits!
Love it 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
(HEALTH WARNING: I haven't been playing all that long and tend to play socially rather than in competitions)
So if you can't repair pitchmarks on the fringe or apron, does that mean you also can't replace someone else's divot? If you see a big divot in the fairway and the freshly excavated strip is a couple of yards ahead, having clearly been made by someone only one or two groups ahead, surely it's good manners to replace it?
Or is it in fact okay to replace it, but only after you've played your shot? As I walk along the fairway (on the rare occasions when I'm not zigzagging from the rough on one side to the rough on the other!) I'll often do a quick repair on someone else's fresh damage as I pass it.
Loving the new channel and new content by the way! Subscribed!
Good question!!
So you can’t replace it before you hit your shot IF it is around your ball, in your stance or in your line of play. But you can replace it afterwards.
If you just walk past a random divot not near your ball you can replace it.
Thanks!
you can fix any defect that doesn't affect your next stroke. so you can always fix it after you hit. (and yes, it's good manners to fix it.)
The slow play rule is a difficult one and I would imagine that most club golfers would not try to apply it since it would probably create ill-will. As a general rule at my club, if a group is so slow that they lose a clear hole, that is regarded as slow play. If my ball is beneath a tree and I shuffle in to create my stance, but in doing so my body pushes back some of the branches, am I correct in believing that, provided I do not break any of the branches, I would not incur a penalty?
Yes the slow play one is hard to enforce. And yes you are correct there! You are allowed to make a stance without breaking anything
I think you should also mention Model Local Rule E-5 for lost or balls hit OB which is there for pace of play so you don't have to take the "walk of shame" and hold up play, and this rule can be used for HC rounds even if the course doesn't state it's in effect.
In the UK this is a local rule that the committee had to bring into play for use in competitions. But it can be used for general play
Hi Hanna, you mentioned you MUST mark a ball to identify it. Question if you do not mark a ball, pick it up and it is not yours, are you still penalised?
If it is not your ball there is no penalty!
Subbed and liked the video. I have a question. I saw someone putting with one hand on the grip and the other on the shaft. Is that a rule violation?
There are extensive rules about the equipment itself, but there are no rules about how you use your hands to hold a club.
Thank you!! I think that one is all good
Hi Hannah
Regarding your first point and this time of year, what if the area is covered in leaves?
Can you remove them as long as the ball doesn't move?
@@DavidOliver-sz4cd yes! Leaves are movable objects!
I believer its “nearest point of relief NO NEARER THE HOLE”!
Regarding slow play... last year I played an invitational competition (in a promotional, friendly atmosphere) where greens were super fast and pins were set up really difficult, so there was "slowliness" simply due to shooting more shots, making less putts, marking the ball more etc. My foursome was verbally warned about that without penalty and watched by a referee for a few holes afterwards. I've found it quite stressful even though I played every shot in my time limit (40 seconds, right?). That was a strange case of slow play for me due to the set up of the course in regards to the general level of the competition.
They can only penalise you if routine is too slow not for having extra shots! They should have realised it was course conditions
What course do you play at Hannah? Love the jumper by the way 😊
Alwoodley!
@@hannahholdengolfNice
I'll take issue with the opening line: "have you accidently cheated?" If accidental, it is a rules infraction as opposed to "cheating." The word "cheat" implies intent. It is tough to keep all the rules straight especially under the restraint of the mentioned rule against slow play. Try to learn the rules and inquire with a playing partner before making a doubtful move. Take the penalty and learn from it. One common rule violation that I see even experienced players make is dropping from a permanent immovable obstruction. It is SO common to end up on a cart path that is good to know what you can and can't do. I'm not sure you mentioned that in taking relief, it must be "complete relief" (swing and stance). Good video. Golf is tough and the rules can get a bit complex.
Accidentally ??? cough cough cough.... OH WAIT .. I just suck,,,,, NVMD... Nice video as always....
@@anthonycorrao3651 😂😂
Good job Hannah! Most of all the players I know should watch this!
How bout doing a video on course etiquette? That would be something useful for many as well.
Keep up the great content, you're awesome!
@@freemanwells7891 good idea!!
I hope every golfer views this, but I was told in a Comp that we must remain in position and cannot allow others to play through
Oh that’s strange! That must be a club rule as it’s not in the main rules of golf
I'm under a tree branch and when I stand up, the tree branch moves. Have I improved my lie even though the branch is not impacting my contact with the ball? In my area, most courses are cut into the surrounding forest and its quite common to play errant shots out from under trees.
@@craigseaver8062 you are allowed to back into the tree/bush in a reasonable way to hit the shot so this would be fine. You would only get a penalty if you snapped part of the tree off to improve your shot
Sounds like bending growing limbs is ok if the ONLY purpose is to take your natural stance. Not if the purpose is to clear a path for your backswing.
@@jontreadwell6226 yes correct 🙌🏻
I was surprised by the ruling to not take sand away from the ball in the playing area , as I understood that for example small stones from a path that have got onto the playing area is considered loose impediments and can be removed , why not sand
Was about to say exactly the same thing, how is sand from a bunker that’s got there because it’s loose not a loose impediment?
I know it is quite an odd one!! Not quite sure on the reasoning!!
The rule I see broken most often is people taking "back on the line" relief. They go back on the line they went into the crap, instead of back on the direction of play which would be even deeper into the rough.
Oh dear 🤦🏼♀️ yes that’s definitely misunderstood
For the last one about advice - can you ask your playing partner in a 4BBB match?
@@mickyg2129 yes!
Lots of club players in Saturday competition break these rules. Most will just say. I am out on this hole, pick up, take 0 points in stableford competition and move to next tee.
Yes true 😅
This might be a stupid question but if it's a stableford competition - and you're out of shots on a particular hole and can't score - what's wrong with picking up and moving on to the next tee? I'd have thought continuing on a hole when you can't score potentially contributes to slow play and picking-up should be encouraged in those circumstances (especially in winter when daylight hours are shorter and it might be a struggle to get a competition finished before it gets dark!).
@@JNW64
Yes that's why clubs play stableford competition all the time
Another question. If you take a drop does it have to be the same kind of ball you played off the tee. Or can switch ball type after you've finished a hole?
6.3b
Substitution of Another Ball While Playing Hole
(1) When Player Is Allowed and Not Allowed to Substitute Another Ball. Certain Rules allow a player to change the ball they are using to play a hole by substituting another ball as the ball in play, and others do not:
- When taking relief under a Rule, including when either dropping a ball or placing a ball (such as when a ball will not stay in the relief area or when taking relief on the putting green), the player may use either the original ball or another ball (Rule 14.3a),
- When playing again from where a previous stroke was made, the player may use either the original ball or another ball (Rule 14.6), and
- When replacing a ball on a spot, the player is not allowed to substitute a ball and must use the original ball, with certain exceptions (Rule 14.2a).
A player may also substitute another ball if the original ball is damaged (note that paiint and scuffs do not count as damage) See Rule 4.2.
You can change ball as long as you’re not in an elite am or pro event where they have a one ball rule in place and you have to use the same type all the time!
I think what happens to a lot of us is that, in casual friendly rounds, some of these rules breach general, "common sense" PITA guidelines......PITA being an acronym for Pain In The........ So we don't follow them. We play "common sense", and our playing partners in our group do generally the same and no one minds. We develop habits, and forget the actual strict rules used to regulate competitions where consensus "common sense" cannot be relied on. Then, when we do get out in competition, our habits to avoid a Pain In The..... come back to bite us in the.....
Hee. 😁😁😁
Yes very true 😂 casual and comp round rules vary a lot
Awesome it should be mandatory viewing for everyone that plays in club competitions as most haven't got a clue.
Definitely 😅😅😅
Thanks @hannah, that’s really helpful.
@@IanWilkinson-vl9qt glad it was of use!!
So, regarding “taking advice”……if I am playing a four-ball match can I not ask my partner which club he hit on a par three - for instance?
You can when you are playing together on a team!
Have you golfed/ Been to America? 🇺🇸
*update* just watched your past video… you answered my question.. 😅
Yes played abit in the states!! Hopefully get back soon
Gonna pass this to my mates, Slowcoach and Sneakypeak.
" Jobs a good'un."
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So sand isn't a loose impediment? Why can you remove leaves and twigs but not sand?
@@Ryansgt no it isn’t. You can only move it off the green. No idea 😅 just one of those random rules
What if under a tree I trying to take my natural stance and I Mistakenly break a branch? Is that ok? What if that same mistakenly broken branch was also impeding my backswing? It was all a mistake.
was it really a mistake?...
I like being slow, I repair the course as I go. I enjoy it out there. I let people pass.
That sounds great, keep it going!
@ I heart ❤️ you! Dr Gus Greenfield approved!
To answer your opening question: No. When I cheat, it's always deliberate.
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I've had a rule book in my bag for about 25 years, updated copies of course, but in all that time I've used it maybe twice (and I can't remember the second time). We vets use common sense and rarely resort to rule books. Should we? Probably but we're more interested in keeping moving than checking our rule books.
You are allowed to read the rule book at home before playing.
Interesting. I always had to keep one in my bag for junior tournaments and we had to use it loads!
I was lucky enough to go to September School Holidays golf camp when I was 12 through until I was 18 (now 74) and rules were drilled into us every morning. As a cadet, pre-junior, we were never allowed to play with more than two young players. We had rules AND ETIQUETTE imposed like you wouldn't believe these days and, to this day, I always simply play the ball as I find it.
How good is your fashion. Always look immaculate. 🙌
Why thank you ☺️
I mean can I ask them to repair a pitch mark if it's on my line and it's off the green?
No you can’t repair them if they are off the green regardless of who does it
Wait when lose a ball in penalty area did i miss the “penalty” part of dropping a new ball ? How many strokes is the penalty in other words ….?
@@vicpnut1 one shot!
@ thanks 👍🏼i did assume this but never really “knew it” .
Haha happy iknew all these rules but i never inforce them when i play most lads iknow could get at least 10 shots added on if i did 😂
Wait until the big money match 👀😂
The sand is not a loose impediment?
@@BiGGolfTour no! Sand isn’t classed as loose impediment in the rules
The ob post, 2 club lengths either way, surely 2 club lengths the wrong way would be ob..😮
@@ashleylane4617 yes 😅 but that’s still technically the unplayable rule, you just need to drop it in bounds
Concerning the situation in which a player takes unplayable ball relief from a boundary object: Correct of course that one of the relief options is dropping the ball within two club-lengths. But: the ball must be dropped in bounds, not out of bounds. Sorry for bring a wise-guy...
I thought that one was obvious 😂
This is why I never have and probably never will play competitive golf.
😂 it is a lot