Ruining Ceilings, Downlights, Electrician
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2021
- Adam and I have the job today are ruining peoples feelings and fitting downlights, just a little step-by-step of how we go about fitting downlights in flat roof with no access above ,
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I hadn’t said anything on the video as didn’t think to mention it but the plaster had it tested in the hall way before Christmas and came back fine, because he was meant to come and rip all the ceilings down to reboard. But looking at it technically I should’ve got my own test done and done my due diligence to Adam and myself and for the video, The house was built in 2002 so the ceilings aren’t that old anyway and to my knowledge they stop using asbestos around 1998 if that’s correct?
i thought asbestos was banned in 1982 in construction
@@ecoterrorist1402 I think that was production but use wall until 199something
Depending if the house is an old build it could possibly be asbestos in artex ceilings but some now don’t
The house was build in 2002 but they've used singles?
Asbestos was used up until 2000. Although it was banned before then many builders had left over supplies and just mixed it with other stuff to get it used up
The fact Adam is taking the time to help promote bundys channel shows why he such a supportive RUclipsr
You are an excellent teacher Nick, taking the time to fully explain why you do something rather than just how you do it. It's what makes your videos so compelling - even when you've been doing this for years you can still pick up tips from your experience. Adam is very lucky to be working with you, and you're also very lucky to have an apprentice so capable.
I do exactly the same Nick when there is fitted floors above or a flat roof. The only extra I do is seal around the patched in areas of the ceiling with intumescent sealant to hopefully restore some fire protection to the ceiling.
You could just put a piece of 2x1 across the holes (about 4-6" larger than the hole on either side), fix them with a couple of drywall screws then refix the bits you cut out with the holesaw with another couple of drywall screws then it's a simple patch up job for the plasterer, rather than reskim the ceiling 😉👍
Great work again. Just ordered from Expert Electrical. Fantastic range and service. 👌
I’ve heard ppl using shaving foam for drilling holes in acm so the dust is controlled but think it’s for 20mm and under, anything over they’d use drill cowl and class H vacuum cleaner and all the correct ppe for obvious reasons.
Thanks for the upload, stay safe.
Hi Nick & Adam
Fellow Stafford lad here, now living in Melbourne and just finished watching another cracking video.. Just had a little idea about how to keep your power tools and lights charged all the time. Why don’t you look at putting in a second 12v lithium battery into your van with a split charging system and then have a charging station for all your gear. As soon as you finish a job just clip all your batteries etc onto charge then that way they can be charging over night or between jobs. Anyway just a thought, keep up the great work.
Yeah, you said lithium, even a marine/deep cycle battery would be ideal.
I am a general builder and electrician, the job we are on now is a full renovation to kitchen and dining room. New circuits, old cable removed, new plumbing including all plumbing for rads etc visible when ceiling is down is replaced and clipped. There is a rsj in this kitchen in the "tradition boxing" i had a custom beam made for other structural reasons and are cutting joists to move new beam into ceiling void. We also as standard when doing this is cut our own service holes through (for future trades) and our service holes, once done the flat through ceiling with new spots looks amazing. I detest the rsj boxing and as a spark or plumber we will or have found a beam in planned routes and is a nightmare. I enjoy you vids, true tradesmen are hard to find and you are one of them 👍
you're a qualified spark?
Just finished work, on the loo, cup of tea in hand, Bundy vid. Nice
Excellent work and thanks for the awesome content stay safe and take care
the apprentice died because his mask slipped under his nose. RIP in peace.
One video I haven't really seen a spark film yet is the customer process, so speaking with the customer how you both decide what to install, the budget, selecting accessories in that budget or do you just give them a figure with the accessories you normally use and where to install accessories. E.g cooker circuit position, do you ask the customer what cooker or shower they intend to install so you know what size cable and mcb to fit etc etc
@Chez Pierre! You wetwipe
Really useful. Thank you!
Nick & Adam you do good job
Best Video I’ve found on this subject, great tips and makes total sense ( unlike some) 👍.
Another great bundy video, now to jump over to Adam’s channel and watch his. Great work guys
As I've yet to see a link to Adam's channel I'm wondering if the joke is that he doesn't have one?
Or have I just been dim and missed it?
@@calmeilles ruclips.net/video/UJf81C664lA/видео.html Adam’s video
@@adamcarter3854 Nice, thank you. :)
Phone camera to check clearance is a great tip, though I normally find previous trades empty coke bottles!
I use a metal coat hanger, drill I pilot hole, stick it up to spin around to make sure clear to get the hole big enough to fit the fitting.
Hi nick have you a link to the new Bosch carbide multi tool blades as I have the same multi tool as you and find the normal blades don’t last and want to try the carbide ones but can’t seen to find them only on Bosch promo video 👍
Hi @N Bundy Electrical great video. Quick question, I am like to think that I am a hands-on person. do you think I can do this myself?
Blue grit is what I use on top of artex then skim it provides a key for the new plaster p.s. I'm not the guilty of filling over the back boxes 😅
nice neat job.
Morning , can i ask you a question ? what down lights would you recommend for inside the house and also for under the facia on the outside...Thanks in advance
Hi Nick, what downlights did you use on this job? JCC v50?
Good video 👍 Nothing to do with the video but would like to hear your Views on Hager board SPDs , seen a few “ Hager Gang “ folk fit the boards and the SPD’s come straight off the main switch , was My understanding SPDs had too have over current protection ? I think the Reg is 534.4.5 if I recall correctly , Wondered if you have fitted any of these boards and why this was the case
Good Job 😎
Nick what is that cling film stuff you use, is it sticky? Would you drop a link. Thanks mate. Great channel.
Which laser level were your using Nick? Thanks for great vids
No need to rip cealings down. Scrape any high bits of the artex then skim over with a finishing coat. Job done. (As people on here mentioned always be cautious of artex/asbestos in old properties 😷)
The complete ban on Artex containing asbestos didn't come into force until 1992 but continued to be used for some time after due to stock holding.
If Artex was installed pre 2000 to around 1994 then there's approx 30% chance it contains White (Chrysotile) Asbestos, post 2000 you should be ok, pre 1992 then the chance goes up a lot. If in doubt get it tested before you start work its not worth risking Asbedosis for you, your employees or your clients.
Maybe a asbestos awareness course might be a good idea.
I was just about to say that 🤣🤣
Same, soon as I seen artex. 👍
It's a very small amount even if it is a acm. It's non notifiable and you can just use a dust reducing method. Still I wear fpp3 mask and wet the area to be drilled
Where did you get your Adhesive sheet roll from that you used on the worktops?
Think its this or similar
Nick do you know any electricians setting on apprentices
Great video. What is that green tool you showed at 14:14?
It’s the Downlight terminal box👍👍
So handy to watch how other people do things!
I have 18 downlights in a large room. to do in Cambridge soon, want the job lads? 😄
0:08 You started it!!! 😆😆😆
Nice work. Is there an easy way to line up the laser between the two points like a string line, I find it take ages to set it up and get it right.
Filling your own hole I think there’s a joke there somewhere, Great video
Artex woodchip is like the forrest around Chernobyl, once it's gone off it's 1000 years before it'll come down. Good luck 😁
My first thought was possible asbestos. Fingers crossed it wasn't.
Most likely they are from the look of it.
It will have, but it did only contain a tiny amount, around the 2% mark, plus it's white asbestos that's less risk compared to the others.
@@acelectricalsecurity there is no such think as less risk than others and it also only takes one fibre!
@@onefortheroad1 of course there is, there's varying degrees of risk associated with everything, this is no different.
Bloody hell if you thought like that about everything, you wouldn't get out the van to do a job. Or in the van, if you thought about all the cancer causing emissions we are all breathing in everyday sat in traffic.
@@acelectricalsecurity Yep, pretty much accurate, my dad filled and sanded down the ceiling long, long time ago and we all are still alive today (we weren't aware of it) 😀 And you are correct, it all based on the risks involved. I think corona is at much higher risk than asbestos 😄
quick fix for missing 3.5 lug, drill and tap a extension thread in the back of the box.
Dammit, was 18th after 1 minute of being uploaded 😂
I only watched this because of the artex ceiling on the thumbnail 🤣
My ceilings had the same style artrex, tested them and they had Asbestos in. Get them tested
Artex asbestos is non licensed. Just wet drill it
0:50
Go go gadget arms
Textured ceilings mean there could be asbestos, a real serious risk.
I feel your pain! lol
16:03 Adam thinks you're No 1 😆😆😆
Isn’t it against code to have a inaccessible connection/join. For example the existing light fitting in the center of the room you have used as a feed is going to be plastered back up.
They are maintenance free connections so they won't need future access.
@@marcusstonham that would mean they would of been soldered?
@@mrseanpride6449 in the UK there are a few options for inaccessible joints, these are set out in reg 526.3. A soldered joint would indeed be one option. Nick used a maintenance free joint, which is another.
@@andrewcadby hey. Im interested as you have said the same said as guy above. What is a maintenance free connection?
@@mrseanpride6449 from BS7671:
526.3(vi) Equipment complying with BS 5733 for a maintenance-free accessory and marked with the symbol and installed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions.
An example is the wagobox with wago connectors. Handy when you have little choice but to conceal connections in the fabric of the building. Ideal, Hager, and other manufacturers make their own versions too.
www.connexbox.com/#Products
Like others here, I first saw a texture coated ceiling and thought "ASBESTOS (possibly)". There was no mention of a survey or knowledge that there was no asbestos, which means, you presume there is. I would highly recommend an asbestos awareness course for both of you.
Whilst cutting, you were wearing JSP P3 masks which is great but the contamination potential after the cut and for the tenant is a definite concern.
first time I heard about this type of ceiling , I have done a couple of works in places like this and im starting to get worried
Its everywhere!!!
@@MrRorz12 most homes built before 2000 have them
@Dark Dreamz yeah, our electricity board has it
@Dark Dreamz well when the house get's rewired the electricians will rip it all out anyway
Just out of interest, how long were you on site for?
You lads are too nice. There's no way I would have moved any of that shit in the garage.
Maybe it was just an oversight, but come on! Who gets a a tradie in to work on something, but doesn't clear the path to what they need to work on?
A lot of people.
@@mrseanpride6449 Yeah screw that noise man. I'd invoice them a call out fee and walk TF away.
Maybe a strange question, but how do you approach customers to film in their houses ? what’s you “script” so to speak 😃 success rate is clearly good 😂
Mine goes like this . Just to let you know I film my work and stick it on youtube are you okay with that?
@@Cjrelectrical nice ! Kind of don’t give them a choice ? 😃 I’ll try it 😂
@@Cjrelectrical thanks for that btw Chris
Just say that we film jobs and put them on RUclips to help people learn and that’s about it, no one has really ever said no
@@NBundyElectrical Like Chris, more telling than asking but in a polite way 👌🏼 cheers Nicholas
What's Adam's channel called
Adamtheelectricalapprentice
USA House Wiring
17- 20amp circuit
Kit. Outlet 210.11.C.1
Kit. Outlet 210.11.C.1
DW Cir. 210.8.D
Micro hood fan and range outlet- A good idea
Ref. Outlet- A good idea
Outside Outlet 210.52.E
Outside Outlet Xmas-A good idea
Bath Outlet 210.11.C.3
Laundry Washer 210.52.F
Laundry room Outlet 210.11.C.2
Laundry dryer Outlet -A good idea
Family room Outlet
Garage Outlet 210.11
Garage Freezer 210.52
Garage Elec. Car Outlet 210.1
Dining room Outlet
Heater 210.64
Bath room Heater Fan Light
30 Amp Circuit
Hot Water Heater-10/2 wire
Dryer-10/3 wire
Cooktop-10/3 wire
Air compressor-10/2 wire
Shop Sub Panel-10/3 wire
40 Amp Circuit
Outside AC
60 Amp Circuit
Wall Oven
Sub Panel
15 Amp Circuit
Smoke Detectors
Alarm Panel
Lighting 210.70
Bed room Outlet
Internet Outlet
It is a good idea to add separate circuits
Sub pump
Basement
Welder
Attic fan
Dont sand the ceiling, possibility of ACMs should be able to skim over.
The Porsche's number plate says what?
Out of interest, how much does it cost roughly to get an asbestos test?
We paid £19 per test sample/room at the end of 2019
Be careful with them old artex ceilings they can contain asbestos
Came here to say this. I just move into a place and wanted to get rid of the artex textured ceiling just like the one in the video. Then clocked it could be asbestos. Got a test for 30 odd quid on amazon and it confirmed it contained white asbestos. Scary.
@@ratgreen I was thinking that myself, I guess thats why Nick mentioned using PVA glue but even so still a risk
@@paultipton743 I think he meant PVA as bonding for a skim, though I'd imagine they'd use green grit or such like. Definitely worth getting it tested before drilling though
@@Ken-oy5vt yea you are probably right I hadn't thought of that.
Get yourself a ferret ! Save getting your phone dusty !!
Who gets a lecky in and doesn't make sure they can get access to the switchboard?
About 75% of customers… "Oh! I never thought…"
Sorry Nick just found it
ruclips.net/video/UJf81C664lA/видео.html
Adam’s new video
Another good good done by the duo
Fecking eBay back boxes.😂
Hopefully that wasn't asbestos artex
If it's artex, then it more than likely will have
There's a lot of comment's about is it asbestos, I would say 99% of people would have done exactly the same as he did, me included, and cut the holes.
Knowing it is likely to be asbestos?
@@sammarshall2734 yeah, if you don't know you have to assume it is, let's face it, it's common knowledge now.
Every electrician I know has done it at some point.
singles not in containment c2
Sheathed singles. Not c2.
fookin downlights must be the misery of electricians across the land.
😂😂😂 still better
Wwae
First XD
ceiling downlighters are god awful things...they must have been invented by an electrician so ceilings could be wrecked as well as floorboards.
For crying out loud wear a proper medical face mask it keeps falling down surprisingly hasn’t a stupid Batman symbol ok it
mask mong
Why are you wearing pointless masks ?