Ive fitted hundreds of downlights and just used a piece of metal coathanger bent at 90 degrres for two and a half inches, figure out where I want my lights then drill a small pilot hole. shove the short end up the hole and spin it, if it hits a joist just move them accordingly
Nice idea, I always use a very thin terminal I poke up (gingerly) around a template of the light, it is a pain in the tits filling the little holes though when it’s in a joist. Gonna give this coat hanger trick a go next time! Tried it with twin an earth once but it’s too flappy. These stud finders do look a lot better now though than the nineties versions! Which put me off them for life.
Some good tips but amazed still measuring 600mm location but a two inch beam and four inch hole. I thought it was only us oldies that had to be hybrid 😀.Have a great christmas lads.
Good video lads. As you say about creating a square when a room is well out of plumb, makes it look worse. I’ve occasionally just eyed my laser level up until it looks right with the room in these scenarios and it looks perfect
Another great video lads! Determined to get out of the robotic new build work I'm currently in and work for myself in the new year, using all you RUclips lads as inspiration👌🏻
Love your vids nick budd, I bought one of them cheap stud finders over the bosch one in the end and I must say it hasn't let me down this far, I couldn't justify spending the money on the bosch one. Keep up the good work mate learn a lot from your vids, and my best mate who's a sparky. Keep up the good work boys.
Awesome video as usual from you guys. I thoroughly enjoy watching the installation processes. Amazing how much is the same here in the States. Especially residential.
Even cheaper version of a stud finder. Buy a strong earth magnet and move it around the wall or ceiling until it finds a screw thus finding your joist 👍🏻
I did similar in a kitchen last month, six led down lights, cut the holes, fished the cables through, only had to make two cuts across joists, which made good after.Another electrician who was asked to quote said it could not be done from underneath, the bathroom above was a tiled floor, he claimed that would all have to come up, he never even submitted a price.The client very pleased with my work and did a very generous recomendation of my work on the community website.
Nice job lads, although I avoid putting those 4 inch cutters up in the ceiling now, preferring a blunt multi tool bit or plain pad saw, yes it’s a bit dustier, but those hole saws will go straight through a plastic pipe laying on the ceiling or cable… learnt that the hard way! And also if you cut a trap under the joist that extends either side of it, a kind of long oblong shape, you can see clearly either side of the joist, incase there’s a sneaky data cable or alike clipped to the other side of it when you’re drilling through, that the phone camera doesn’t pick up… also learnt the hard way!
@@mrseanpride6449 if it’ll cut through plasterboard, it’ll cut through twin and earth sheathing. Pipes shouldn’t lay on ceilings, or be touching the chipboard, or running down walls that don’t even have a radiator on them, but you haven’t worked in many new builds if you’ve never seen this. I’ve seen it multiple times, and gone through them, or my lads have. ‘Shouldn’t’ isn’t a risk you want to take in the world of DIYer’s, kitchen/bathroom fitters and new build monkeys.
@@CoulterTravel that’s not true. Run your finger across the hole saw in the cutting direction and then run your finger across the opposite way. If the hole saw is in reverse you are much less likely to damage and cable or anything above that you can’t see.
@@mrseanpride6449 if it works for you, then fine. I’m just saying I’ve had issues so I don’t take the risk. But even a multi tool isn’t risk free is if, sometimes you just get unlucky.
Don't make pencil marks if it's not where you are cutting... use a strip of painters tape. I also don't try and measure up in a ceiling with a tape... I use a piece of stiff wire then measure with a tape.
@@mrseanpride6449 I take a piece of wire .. like a coat hanger, put a 90 bend in it... it lies flat on the drywall... place your finger at the edge of the hole... then measure the wire to your fingertip. Or you can just use the wire below the hole to make a pencil mark on the drywall... It's too tough to try and use a tape like that up in a hole.
I get what you mean with the 'eye sweet' idea, but I personally always make sure my work is done square and correctly. I don't lessen my quality of work so that it fits in with someone else's less than perfect work. Each to their own. :)
In this case yes it probably would, or save £17 and just get a strong magnet and run it over the ceiling or wall until you find the screws and then mark them out and that gives you the stud location
@@dplatts14 I have tried it with a magnaclean magnet and them bad boys are powerful. The magnet however wasn’t as good with the plasterboard in front of it Thanks for the tip and answer
We cut a 4” section of ceiling out and drill a route of holes through the centre of the joists, plasterer then puts plasterboard back there and feathers it back in .
Ive fitted hundreds of downlights and just used a piece of metal coathanger bent at 90 degrres for two and a half inches, figure out where I want my lights then drill a small pilot hole. shove the short end up the hole and spin it, if it hits a joist just move them accordingly
Nice idea, I always use a very thin terminal I poke up (gingerly) around a template of the light, it is a pain in the tits filling the little holes though when it’s in a joist. Gonna give this coat hanger trick a go next time! Tried it with twin an earth once but it’s too flappy. These stud finders do look a lot better now though than the nineties versions! Which put me off them for life.
Coathangers and old toothbrushes: two of the most useful tools in the box and free
@@cuebj what are you doing with that old toothbrush??
@@cuebj definitely, but metal coat hangers are getting rarer than hens teeth nowadays
👌 I use a bit of 2.5 bent and cut to half the hole size. Works a treat.
Some good tips but amazed still measuring 600mm location but a two inch beam and four inch hole. I thought it was only us oldies that had to be hybrid 😀.Have a great christmas lads.
Good video lads. As you say about creating a square when a room is well out of plumb, makes it look worse.
I’ve occasionally just eyed my laser level up until it looks right with the room in these scenarios and it looks perfect
💯% agree mate, sometimes what looks betters to the eye is better than what’s mathematically right.
Cool story bro
@@JRCElectrical Vladimir
Another great video lads! Determined to get out of the robotic new build work I'm currently in and work for myself in the new year, using all you RUclips lads as inspiration👌🏻
Hi Nick and Adam! A very Merry Christmas to you both, and your families. Here's to a terrific 2022. Happy New Year.
"Realistically our joists are going to be the same distance" *laughs hysterically at you trying that in his house* 😂
Not Christmas yet
Have a great one. Both of you.
And a happy new year.
Love your vids nick budd, I bought one of them cheap stud finders over the bosch one in the end and I must say it hasn't let me down this far, I couldn't justify spending the money on the bosch one. Keep up the good work mate learn a lot from your vids, and my best mate who's a sparky. Keep up the good work boys.
what one did you buy mate? my one is crap only beeps when i put it on a radiator lol its pants
Awesome video as usual from you guys. I thoroughly enjoy watching the installation processes. Amazing how much is the same here in the States. Especially residential.
Even cheaper version of a stud finder. Buy a strong earth magnet and move it around the wall or ceiling until it finds a screw thus finding your joist 👍🏻
He does say that at 13:57 :)
Is this the JCC Fireguard Next Generation, and what type of bezel have you had here please?
Happy Christmas 🎄 from Malta 🇲🇹
I did similar in a kitchen last month, six led down lights, cut the holes, fished the cables through, only had to make two cuts across joists, which made good after.Another electrician who was asked to quote said it could not be done from underneath, the bathroom above was a tiled floor, he claimed that would all have to come up, he never even submitted a price.The client very pleased with my work and did a very generous recomendation of my work on the community website.
Nice, bring it round ours so you can put the towel rail up 👌
He will be there in November 🤣
Great to Watch and learn Thanks Guys ⚡️👊
Is there any particular brands of lamps you like to use with the JCC spotlights?
Adam “nicks just gone to that thing at the school for his kid” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bahahahaha “someone’s gonna messsge you after seeing that” proper wrong 😂
so is the cheap stud finder going on Adam's van?
Do what looks right not what is right :) you not tried the superrod joist drill with ball on it?
Nice job lads, although I avoid putting those 4 inch cutters up in the ceiling now, preferring a blunt multi tool bit or plain pad saw, yes it’s a bit dustier, but those hole saws will go straight through a plastic pipe laying on the ceiling or cable… learnt that the hard way! And also if you cut a trap under the joist that extends either side of it, a kind of long oblong shape, you can see clearly either side of the joist, incase there’s a sneaky data cable or alike clipped to the other side of it when you’re drilling through, that the phone camera doesn’t pick up… also learnt the hard way!
Put the hole saw in reverse and it will not damage the cable. Not sure about pipe. But usually pipe isn’t layed right into of the ceiling.
@@mrseanpride6449 if it’ll cut through plasterboard, it’ll cut through twin and earth sheathing. Pipes shouldn’t lay on ceilings, or be touching the chipboard, or running down walls that don’t even have a radiator on them, but you haven’t worked in many new builds if you’ve never seen this. I’ve seen it multiple times, and gone through them, or my lads have. ‘Shouldn’t’ isn’t a risk you want to take in the world of DIYer’s, kitchen/bathroom fitters and new build monkeys.
@@CoulterTravel that’s not true. Run your finger across the hole saw in the cutting direction and then run your finger across the opposite way. If the hole saw is in reverse you are much less likely to damage and cable or anything above that you can’t see.
@@mrseanpride6449 if it works for you, then fine. I’m just saying I’ve had issues so I don’t take the risk. But even a multi tool isn’t risk free is if, sometimes you just get unlucky.
At 14.26. Did Adam say, "He always has a brown ring around his hand"
Worse I think
good job,
Like Adam’s so old he can’t remember what nativity plays are 🤣
Don't make pencil marks if it's not where you are cutting... use a strip of painters tape. I also don't try and measure up in a ceiling with a tape... I use a piece of stiff wire then measure with a tape.
Can you explain the stiff wire thing please?
@@mrseanpride6449 I take a piece of wire .. like a coat hanger, put a 90 bend in it... it lies flat on the drywall... place your finger at the edge of the hole... then measure the wire to your fingertip. Or you can just use the wire below the hole to make a pencil mark on the drywall... It's too tough to try and use a tape like that up in a hole.
@@kevinkarbonik2928 oh yeh. I gotcha.
I tried using a stud finder once, but every time I used it or even went near it, it would just go off all the time.
Same ❤️
PMSL! 🤣
Same 👋 I’m a bit of a hunk tho so put it down to that 😂😂
I get what you mean with the 'eye sweet' idea, but I personally always make sure my work is done square and correctly. I don't lessen my quality of work so that it fits in with someone else's less than perfect work. Each to their own. :)
Omg what a clown
@@samwilson7043 Enjoy putting squint sockets on the wall because the joiners didn’t cut the skirting properly. Weapon.
Hi, great video lads. Could you share the code of that detector please? Have a good Christmas 🎅👍
You blind drill through joists ? That’s brave/daft
Honest question mate do you think that the £17.00 stud finder that you did a review on the other day will pick up the studs?
In this case yes it probably would, or save £17 and just get a strong magnet and run it over the ceiling or wall until you find the screws and then mark them out and that gives you the stud location
@@dplatts14 I have tried it with a magnaclean magnet and them bad boys are powerful. The magnet however wasn’t as good with the plasterboard in front of it Thanks for the tip and answer
Oh Adam you are very dextrous with your hand, Do you moon light for H.M.Customs when they're looking for stuff...? lol
technically the bosh is Adam's :P, Nick is only testing it.
Surely missing a trick to plug an inspection camera here Nick.
Get a laser light boys...this is like watching a video from 20 years ago.
Haha yeah totally
A laser light?? Is that the original version of a lazer level
@@tomorichard you're known for your pedantry aren't you?
Nativity play, That's Married with children, Mr Bundy
Come on Adam .. u should see u can use the window as a good distance gauge eg it’s 100mm to right so go 100 mm to left ..
We cut a 4” section of ceiling out and drill a route of holes through the centre of the joists, plasterer then puts plasterboard back there and feathers it back in .
Thought you'd of tensed for the cover photo 😴
You don't want to be putting your hand in the brown ring😉😉
Any wonder sparkies are so expensive.
So, uh...how do we contact Adam for...um....scientific research on just how far his hand will fit in a hole? 🤣🤣