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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +40

    Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
    Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, thanks again, much Love.

    • @Evodocturine
      @Evodocturine Год назад

      Damn you're quite the pilot here.!
      I've been watching your stuff for a while now and.. Well... Damn! You're one hell of a pilot.

    • @joelfrantz3189
      @joelfrantz3189 Год назад

      Love you GS! Please do more VR stuff!!!

    • @assafgol
      @assafgol Год назад

      The question is if the flight model of the 86 is accurate or just a skin.

    • @nyito8548
      @nyito8548 Год назад

      In a similar vein to this, I'd really love to see some guns only with the F-86, MiG-15, against some of the modern trainers like the MB-339, L-39, etc. Planes from very different eras but similar-ish performance. The A-4 would be a good addition here too.

    • @allaltitudeproductions
      @allaltitudeproductions 11 месяцев назад

      Day 14 asking for F-22 vs 10 MiG 21

  • @mariapetrou2003
    @mariapetrou2003 Год назад +1022

    The impossible dogfight: The Wright Flyer VS an A350 Airbus.

    • @gotafarmyet4691
      @gotafarmyet4691 Год назад +176

      Death by wake turbulence all it has to do is fly by the Flyer. The only advantage the Flyer has is that the pilot can fire the pistol in almost any direction

    • @tonik2229
      @tonik2229 Год назад +43

      bro gonna be playing that in msfs 😂

    • @no_regerts5176
      @no_regerts5176 Год назад +23

      Talk about a knife fight.

    • @aztec0112
      @aztec0112 Год назад +49

      A350:2 "What was that?"
      A350:1 "What was what?"

    • @solarflare623
      @solarflare623 Год назад +41

      Wilber wright with a colt and a flight attendant sticking a Glock out the door!

  • @busterdee8228
    @busterdee8228 Год назад +479

    That first cockpit hit is what you call indisputable.

    • @donl9571
      @donl9571 Год назад +8

      Like the WW1 dogfights.

  • @Hurricane2k8
    @Hurricane2k8 Год назад +301

    GS in every dogfight: that turn reversal of the enemy was a mistake
    GS in this dogfight: reverses the turn

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 Год назад +17

      You only reverse the turn if you can get the overshoot.

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 Год назад +12

      @@heathb4319 Or feel like you got no other choice left.

    • @stinkyfungus
      @stinkyfungus 11 месяцев назад

      To be fair, that rule of thumb applies mostly to being on the defensive.
      In that first fight vs the E - GS was offensive through alot of that fight, it started to go neutral as the airspeed dropped off and that primitive little turbojet in the 86 just didn't have the poop to keep that nose up and pointed at the eagle in the toilet bowl. He had to keep the nose dumped to maintain airspeed, the eagle with its far superior T/W, didn't have to do that.
      You could see the fight turning into a slow one circle, which was favorable to the eagle with its superior power output, and ability to pull itself through manuvers using brute power
      The turn reversal was a last ditch attempt to change the geometry of the fight and maybe roll into the eagles control zone - but the eagle was just too good in the one circle, saw what he was trying to do and countered it.

  • @billisaacs702
    @billisaacs702 Год назад +207

    That was quite a toothbrushing you got in the first round.

  • @MrMan5014
    @MrMan5014 Год назад +89

    In Vietnam the F4 Phantom was struggling against the Mig 17 and so they broke out the old F-86 to mock dog fight with the F4 in order to develop tactics to fight against the Mig 17...I've watched video footage of the training and its quite amazing to watch the old Sabre battle with the Phantom...my uncle flew in the Air Force and Navy and his favorite plane was the Sabre!

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 Год назад +22

      Funny thing was, it wasnt necessarily even a problem of the Phantom. But rather than this was a kind of fight the F4 pilots just never trained for.

  • @microbuilder
    @microbuilder Год назад +65

    The slumped over pilot is pretty brutal lol

  • @RodneyPinSC
    @RodneyPinSC Год назад +171

    GS - We hope you are doing well. We were worried when we couldn't get our daily GS-fix.
    We know you are entitled to a life - you've created the addiction we collectively have for your channel.
    Thank you for all you do.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +120

      I appreciate you guys, but ur correct I was off spending some time with my wife but yes slowly going to be getting back into the swing of things. Thank you again much love.

    • @busterdee8228
      @busterdee8228 Год назад +2

      Awe@@GrowlingSidewinder

    • @pookie9461
      @pookie9461 Год назад +4

      Glad you guys could get away GS! Hey how about a F-86 vs Me-262 fight?

    • @wyattdean5192
      @wyattdean5192 Год назад +5

      @@GrowlingSidewinderGood for you man, family is always more important than anything here on youtube!

    • @RodneyPinSC
      @RodneyPinSC Год назад +4

      Please let your better half know how much we appreciate her sharing your time with us :)

  • @parkpunk2
    @parkpunk2 Год назад +20

    2:45 to 3:15 was more emotional than the first three episodes of Masters of the Air.

  • @Stant123
    @Stant123 Год назад +26

    GS in previous videos: "Never do a turn reversal unless you are certain they are going to overshoot."
    GS in this video: "Okay so I'm gonna reverse the turn... [1 minute later] Let's try and get him to overshoot..." [GS gets KIA'd]
    We really appreciate the fact you reinforce the point that it's a mistake to reverse the turn in front of your opponent from the victim's perspective. Good stuff. Haha.

  • @RushZ3r
    @RushZ3r Год назад +69

    GS be making us feel emotional for the pilots 😭

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 Год назад +7

      Yeah, like in the first round...showed that pilot praying before he hit the water ;))

    • @eggabacon
      @eggabacon 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@heathb4319 The pilot was dead

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@eggabacon ...Duh...

  • @apostlestumpy
    @apostlestumpy Год назад +28

    The Australian CAC CA27 was the most potent variant of the F-86 sabre family with a bigger engine and 2X 30mm Aden cannons. It also had sidewinders at the end.

    • @karelpgbr
      @karelpgbr Год назад +3

      Oh this sounds so cool!

    • @commandercody3935
      @commandercody3935 8 месяцев назад +2

      The Avro sabre MK6 had the best overall performance however stuck with the 6 .50 Cal's. The CA27 is one hell of a aircraft none the less :)

    • @apostlestumpy
      @apostlestumpy 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@commandercody3935 marginally but, I still prefer the hitting power of twin 30mm Adens👍

    • @commandercody3935
      @commandercody3935 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@apostlestumpy and that's totally fair! I just like the candair cause my great grandfather (RIP) worked on them for 50 years in the RAF :)

  • @Petah_Griffin
    @Petah_Griffin Год назад +6

    Literal pixel on a screen: exists
    Growling sidewinder: looks like a strike eagle, maybe a Charlie version

    • @the_pelican_real
      @the_pelican_real 8 месяцев назад

      youtube compression is a thing, GS can see many more pixels on his screen

  • @v8makoshark
    @v8makoshark Год назад +36

    Man, I missed these dogfights so much. Glad to see you backG/S.

  • @gjoinolywa5850
    @gjoinolywa5850 Год назад +7

    Went back to watch old IL-2 vids. You were having fun, “so satisfying!” Less clinical than BVR fights. Keep having over the top fun! It’s what drew me in the first place.

  • @treetrunks4175
    @treetrunks4175 Год назад +6

    i am absolutely loving the new style of making the deaths so emotional. Absolutely brilliant!

  • @GrimReaperOG1
    @GrimReaperOG1 Год назад +35

    When you're a beast at dog fighting and you have to limit yourself to an under dog plane to give the other guy a chance! 🎉😂

    • @leorossi8057
      @leorossi8057 Год назад +5

      honestly in a gunfight the sabre is insane. try it out sometime

  • @woistwalter7037
    @woistwalter7037 Год назад +4

    Great video.
    When the F-15 pulled behind you at 2:28, it looked so badass.

  • @muttley00
    @muttley00 Год назад +6

    Imagine if you could do engine swaps in the same way as cars. What more modern engine would fit into an F86? Assuming its installation doesn't alter the C of G, doesn't bend the airframe etc, how awesome would it be?

  • @borgman151
    @borgman151 Год назад +5

    Every single time I am watching and your talking...and your voice becomes concerned then "SPLAT" - I jump!

  • @brumdo78
    @brumdo78 Год назад +1

    I gotta say that I really appreciate the artistic moods you create like at 2:40. Makes my "allergies" flair up. :)
    You're one of the best!

  • @kindasupersonic7114
    @kindasupersonic7114 Год назад +29

    hahahahahahahaahaha that first kill was NAAAAASTY~

    • @jgl6793
      @jgl6793 Год назад

      Prez, is that you?😂😂

  • @ws6619
    @ws6619 Год назад +6

    first fight... how many times have I heard you say... don't reverse the turn unless you know he's going to overshoot. lolololol

  • @daniellogan9328
    @daniellogan9328 Год назад +1

    Dude this video makes me so happy! At the FBO where I work there was an F-86 that was privately owned that needed maintenance for a couple of years. I was just thinking about it and was wanting to see it in a video!

  • @LeglessTurtle
    @LeglessTurtle Год назад +2

    Great job on the DCS 2024 and beyond video btw! It gave me some serious goosebumps

  • @Tenchigumi
    @Tenchigumi Год назад +1

    Hello, my name is Fatal Splat Sound, and I am proud to be a part of this video.

  • @fox3phoenix811
    @fox3phoenix811 Год назад +2

    I love fighting with the Sabre against gen 4 aircraft. Its not easy but often they underestimate what the sabre can do in close and slow. I have a fight against the F18 on my channel with similar outcomes as your hahaha. Another great video GS!!

  • @isaac77655
    @isaac77655 Год назад +12

    Love these dogfighting everything videos

  • @roadkillvp4life
    @roadkillvp4life Год назад +2

    2:59 Reminds me of a Viking Funeral. Saddest shot I've seen.

  • @andrewbranch4075
    @andrewbranch4075 Год назад +1

    That was good to watch. Considering that the F86 is 1950s technology, that was a capable and vigorous scrap 👍✌️☮️

  • @Geto-Dac
    @Geto-Dac Год назад +4

    the a10 pilot was great!

  • @tswims92
    @tswims92 Год назад +1

    You fighting in the F-86 is the best, please keep them coming!

  • @Amantla
    @Amantla Год назад +2

    Yay go hornet driver!!! loved that bug sound

  • @702BattleBorn
    @702BattleBorn Год назад +1

    Yo GS, respects for taking on the superior foe. Thanks for the video. As always great work. Have a pleasant day. Cheers.

  • @michaeljamieson5227
    @michaeljamieson5227 Год назад +1

    Excellent, more of this stuff please!

  • @crossbowman100
    @crossbowman100 Год назад

    THANK YOU! ive been asking every handful of videos for this. im hyped

  • @curtisbartlett8170
    @curtisbartlett8170 Год назад

    Excellent! What a great looking piece of history. Thank you for that.

  • @AshBhang2010
    @AshBhang2010 Год назад +1

    ohhh so sad seeing the pilot slumped over his controls :) great shot ! !

  • @Takyodor2
    @Takyodor2 11 месяцев назад

    The A-10 taking those shots, and just... not giving a F was so funny 😆

  • @TriggerVR657
    @TriggerVR657 Год назад +4

    This thing is surprisingly good at dogfights against modern jets lol

  • @taylorbonnah261
    @taylorbonnah261 Год назад

    This was a fun video choice to make. Love seeing a random aircraft take on a variety of opponents.

  • @rel6438
    @rel6438 Год назад +2

    That was different. Pilot slump over as jets has holes riddled all through it

  • @dlr1668
    @dlr1668 Год назад +1

    Beautiful shot on the engine

  • @mkii1964
    @mkii1964 Год назад +2

    Knife fight in a phone booth with that Hornet!!!

  • @alxavier3795
    @alxavier3795 Год назад +2

    Thank you to both pilots for a great fight!

  • @Peter_Morris
    @Peter_Morris Год назад +1

    Man the holes from that Eagle kill! Ouch!

  • @nickhimaras9331
    @nickhimaras9331 Год назад

    Nice touch on the "Requiem for a Fighter Pilot" scenes...

  • @VikingTeddy
    @VikingTeddy Год назад +1

    Oh boy oh boy! This is going to be awesome! Early jets is where it's at!
    Let me get a cuppa and a blanket so I can enjoy this properly.

  • @ArcaneActual
    @ArcaneActual Год назад +1

    Love these unknown fights!! Great fights!

  • @verfugbarkite
    @verfugbarkite Год назад

    That last stitching you gave the A10 was the coolest thing.

  • @ShastaProductions
    @ShastaProductions Год назад

    Love the saber, I would like to see some more of it in the future! Nice work as always, and awesome kill on the A-10!

  • @FrostYT4444
    @FrostYT4444 Год назад +81

    When you realize the majority of aircraft you know of is mostly from this channel..

    • @Baptistbowhunter
      @Baptistbowhunter Год назад +1

      Story of my life bro

    • @SpecialTeams
      @SpecialTeams Год назад +7

      I would recommend branching out this is very entry level aviation enthusiast

    • @robertbehmer6575
      @robertbehmer6575 Год назад +1

      At least I’m not the only one lol

    • @Amac1825
      @Amac1825 Год назад +3

      Jokes on you I started on WarTinder

    • @CPUfy
      @CPUfy Год назад +4

      @@Amac1825same i love wart humpter

  • @diegoruiz7600
    @diegoruiz7600 Год назад +1

    That first one was a nasty pilot kill.

  • @foxtwo1584
    @foxtwo1584 Год назад

    12:36 legit made me jump, brilliant video as always!

  • @asmodeaus8024
    @asmodeaus8024 Год назад +1

    This era of jets are so steampunk and I'm here for it

  • @308BORE
    @308BORE 11 месяцев назад +2

    f 86 is such a beautiful aircraft!

  • @BlackMasterRoshi
    @BlackMasterRoshi Год назад +1

    love stuff from the saber era!

  • @DemonLordGamingAC0
    @DemonLordGamingAC0 11 месяцев назад

    Back in the PS2 there was a combat flight simulator called Aero Elite: Combat Academy. I used to use the F-86 because it was a very good dogfighter lol

  • @InitialP_Photography
    @InitialP_Photography Год назад +1

    Good to see you back man

  • @jasperdeluna7850
    @jasperdeluna7850 Год назад

    The sound of aircraft near missing each other as they pass sounds sooooo good

  • @davidshanahan5134
    @davidshanahan5134 Год назад +11

    You want the Aussie F-86 Sabre with the twin 30mm Aden cannon against the A-10. Def get the job done.

  • @Anti-First-army
    @Anti-First-army 11 месяцев назад

    9:30 the careful removal of a man’s confidence😂

  • @RPGWoodworking
    @RPGWoodworking Год назад +1

    hope nobody was camping under the rain of those F-18 rounds at the end...lol

  • @funsizephil
    @funsizephil Год назад

    Really enjoyed this one. More please!

  • @dwarfkilla91
    @dwarfkilla91 Год назад

    glad you're back, was getting worried.

  • @OW38B
    @OW38B Год назад +1

    Very cool perspective. Maybe some future vids with the same type of scenario

  • @spencerhauck690
    @spencerhauck690 Год назад

    Think you could do more il 2 videos in the future. I binge watch the ones you did every now and again and am always impressed with the tactics used especially during ww2.

  • @kevinmcdonald6446
    @kevinmcdonald6446 Год назад

    BLAP! Killed in Action. Made me laugh. F-86 is absolutely beautiful. Thanks for the video.

  • @David-2499
    @David-2499 Год назад

    The fight against the A10 was awesome, good show.

  • @Pablo668
    @Pablo668 Год назад

    That was pretty good. I love the F86. It's about my favourite fighter jet. Something about the designs North American produced at their best. They are just timeless. They don't look old. The P51 and the F86, just great planes.

  • @jordangoodwin9808
    @jordangoodwin9808 Год назад

    Hey, growling. I was thinking it would be nice to see you in the P-38 again. Loved your past videos in it.

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu Год назад

    So strangely and magnificently entertaining.

  • @RickPMandel
    @RickPMandel Год назад

    How fun! Thanks for this one!

  • @EGLately
    @EGLately Год назад

    Been waiting for this video my whole life

  • @Gcatt1
    @Gcatt1 Год назад

    The A-10 was a hilarious & satisfying choice for a duel.

  • @eggabacon
    @eggabacon 8 месяцев назад

    2:38 Oh damn haven't seen that before

  • @matthewgalendez7354
    @matthewgalendez7354 Год назад

    While you’re flying above Saipan , could you pick up a bag of Herman’s Bread and fly it over to Colorado please 😆

  • @steveparker576
    @steveparker576 Год назад

    Love the choir and dramatic music 😂❤

  • @GooseOfYork
    @GooseOfYork Год назад

    Great fights, neat to see the Sabre jet remain competitive in a one-on-one! I think you could have managed your energy a bit better and used the vertical a bit more, cause the Sabre does not like to be slow

  • @jdbarnes5987
    @jdbarnes5987 Год назад +1

    That dead pilot shot was legit sad

  • @milkmunstr
    @milkmunstr Год назад

    well this is the earliest I've ever been for a GS video

  • @chavo4265
    @chavo4265 Год назад

    Just slumped over the wheel.....😂😅😆

  • @droppedpasta
    @droppedpasta Год назад

    Last round, can you imagine just sitting in your house, and down comes tracer hail ripping apart the trees in your backyard?

  • @abbaerfani9007
    @abbaerfani9007 Год назад

    Good to have you back ❤

  • @anthonysmith3593
    @anthonysmith3593 Год назад

    I used to work next door to a company at one time used to build the sabres airframes

  • @IndyBobcat
    @IndyBobcat Год назад

    2/2/24 marks 50 years since the first flight of the F-16! What an icon.

  • @kozak1789
    @kozak1789 Год назад

    Honestly the 86 can really move, it's a brilliant little plane, very fun, if i want to perform be focused and accomplish my missions i take the 18, but if i wanna have fun ill always pick the 86, absolutely recommend it for anyone getting into full fidelity great first module

  • @andrewjackson5127
    @andrewjackson5127 Год назад

    I think that reversal...SPLAT! LOL.

  • @KH990j
    @KH990j Год назад

    I like the Sabre, and I love GS enemy unknown so this was a good combo that I had to watch.

  • @beardedphobos5211
    @beardedphobos5211 Год назад

    Absolutely loved this vid

  • @MaK_K_Ksim
    @MaK_K_Ksim Год назад

    that first round was emotional..

  • @dougcoombes8497
    @dougcoombes8497 Год назад

    The A-10 was built to deal with an entirely different order of weaponry than .50 cal. It was built to survive multiple hits from Soviet 23mm cannons and the engines are designed to burn and fall off so if you lose one you still have a clean airframe to fly home on the other engine. Plus the titanium armor bath the pilot sits in make a pilot kill much harder.

  • @tstamm70
    @tstamm70 Год назад

    I can say that the F-86 use to pull darts for F-15 at a location I was in the 90s. F-86 guys said they would have no issue beating them.

  • @KZ-se4ik
    @KZ-se4ik Год назад

    Bane's first few choices were quite sportsmanlike. Turning you into pink mist however...

  • @troyl5498
    @troyl5498 Год назад

    _"Death Dance in the Sky."_
    (You may use your it freely, GS.)

  • @AARONANKRUM
    @AARONANKRUM Месяц назад

    The F-86 is on the best looking planes of any era.

  • @Soyuzturtle
    @Soyuzturtle Год назад

    i literaly just got the discord notification right when i seen this in my recomended perfect timing!

  • @920utdoor
    @920utdoor Год назад

    That hornet howl has got to be terrifying to hear behind you

  • @hooperturner
    @hooperturner Год назад

    I loved this episode (and miss the daily posts but I understand)! I wish you would practice with the F-86 and really see what it would do!

  • @StarJackal
    @StarJackal Год назад +1

    2:45 You can see the rounds from the previous pass hit the water