@@michaelpipetap8307 He was only defensive player of the year for the Pistons years before he felt anything but disgust for the Bulls. Not really good.
People forget that it wasnt just Jordan that made the league so watchable in the 90s. There was a plethora of colorful characters like Rodman, Gary Payton, Mahorn, Lambeer which made the league so fun to watch.
Totally...there were good guys and bad guys. And players didn't move around as much, so rivalries were allowed to develop that would run for years. It was a great product.
Laimbeer gave Dennis a Master Class in agitation and distraction. Rodman would learn all those lessons and apply them a few years later with the Bulls.
Rodman said his life went downhill after they fired Chuck Daly and dismantled the Bad Boy Pistons in the early 90's. For him, it was like losing the only real family he had and he took it personally. Things got worse when he came to the Spurs because they tried to micro manage every facet of his life and it bothered him a lot. All that stuff must have affected his game on the floor both physically and mentally. It wasn't until he went to the Bulls that he finally got his mojo back and found a new home.
Was that really him? I thought he kind of looked like him from an angle but I couldn't really tell because he looked a lot younger, skinnier, and had a lot more hair.
Bill laimbeer was a 6'11 punk. Instigator...a cheap shot artist and actor...Larry Bird is on record that punk Bill was the dirtiest player. I don't know what game you were watching but lame beer elbowed Rodman in the face several times It is that the NBA hated Rodman's lifestyle and wanted him out of the league. Rodman should have given lame beer a broken nose.
@@Gogetta80 It was pretty fun if you didn't know what to expect & had no concept of who Bill Lambeer was at the time. I used to imagine it took place in the same future as Smash TV.
Rodman could not be controlled by David Robinson or John Lucas in San Antonio. It would take players with the presence of a Michael Jordan or Isiah Thomas or a coach with the authority such as Chuck Daley or Phil Jackson to keep Rodman focused. Even Shaq and Kobe with Kurt Rambis as head coach could not keep Rodman on track. I have a feeling that if Phil Jackson had started with the Lakers in the '98-'99 season, he would have been able to keep Rodman mentally and emotionally focused for them to win the championship. They certainly had the talent with a Shaq who was still peaking, Kobe who was starting at that point and some veterans.
@@ryandavis8658 If you want to say Rodman was a better career player than Laimbeer, I can definitely agree with that. But Laimbeer was still Rodman's mentor when it came to the game of mental intimidation.
I truly love it when Dennis said he not friends on the court and no pity on none of them that he out there to battle and win just like they out there to do the same...i really miss watching him play
1:42 If you were a Pistons fan in those days, you know that sequence symbolized Lindsey Hunter's whole career. "This kid might be a huge star. He has the potential to be the next---- aaaaand NO."
@@alanduff1054 Me either. Even looking at this clip almost 30 years later and I'm yelling at the screen saying, what the hell are you doing? For someone as good as Dennis was at getting in players heads and taking them out of their games he sure got a taste of his own medicine here.
@@henny6566 well you have to remember Laimbeer was much older there is a good chance Rodman learned a lot from him. 25 years later it's easy to forget they were not the same generation
Detroit should have never let him go. Probably the best rebounder to ever lace up shoes. Top 4 all time defender as well. Big mistake by the pistons. Basketball will always remember the worm.
President Bush himself said there's not going to be any more "Bad Boy's" in regards to the Detroit Pistons, then immediately the expansion happened and Mahorn was the first to get traded away.
for his size he is #1. he really was a master at predicting the rebounds direction. he would whats rebounds for hours until he noticed a pattern. i like to compare him to bill russell. a modern bad boy version.
Bill only played 11 games that season. Luckily that got to go up.against each other once. The Pistons' bad boys wore their bodies out with their style of play, but they got two championships out of it. It is amazing Rodman was able to continue for so many years afterwards. It shows the kind of athletic talent he really was.
@vegadog he got drafted he was 25 so a lot less wear and tear on his body. Same result from never having to carry a scoring load, that beats up your knees and joints. Even so, the guy was very gifted athletically
@@earllewis1229 That was the NBA back then. Bill had the inside position. From there, the fact that he's mugging Dennis? They didn't care back then. No one from the Pistons would be successful in today's NBA, whereas a lot of guys back then like MJ would be even better with no one beating the crap out of him. Imagine Shaq playing today where no one could even touch him? Holy crap, he would need a triple team every time the ball got near him!
That's what Rodman got for politely trying to call out Lamibeer in the beginning...."3 SECONDS PLEASE!"...next thing..box out, frustration and a tech..It was crazy how Bill could take you out your psyche real quick🤣
What high lite are you watching the guard was acting like a little girl...Rodman barely shoved him. And that 6'11 punk lamebeer girly man should have won an acting award for exaggerating any Rodman contact, as though Rodman was the biblical Sampson
@@dannoah1002 I love it that guys like you hate Bill Laimbeer. I would like to be present to see what would happen if you and Bill were face-to-face and you called him a punk girly man. You would be suing for you hospital bills to be paid.
Bill Laimbeer to Dennis Rodman after the game: “you are my greatest pupil, and I will be proud to pass the torch to you when I retire, but until then, I’m still the maestro.”
Are you kidding? Bill Laimbeer had 3,633 personal fouls called on him during his career ranking him # 23 all time in NBA history. To put that in perspective Dennis Rodman only had 2,843 personal foul called on him while playing two less seasons. So the refs went after Laimbeer a lot more often than they went after Rodman.
Chris Umscheid, Exactly, the dirty player lamebeer was flopping everytime there was Rodman contact. The ref's should have been docked a games wages for incompetence.
@@dahoss5405 Not that night...lame beer played the girly man flopping around at the least contact of Rodman. That makes lame beer a punk... Larry Bird said he was the dirtiest player he ever played against!
he wasn't in rodman's head, the refs were, first tech on rodman was total bullshit, i could get inside someone's head too if i could stick my giant elbow in their neck for 5 steps.
@@kylein9869 I may be wrong, but Lloyd Daniels was with the Spurs from 92-94, and he wore #24 with them, so I think it's him. Antonio was with the Spurs from 98-02 and he work #46. I think it is Lloyd Daniels. He's one of the great tragedies of basketball, an immense talent who had a horrible upbringing and who could never get off drugs. Had he had some kind of a normal upbringing and been sober, he could have been mentioned in the conversations about the greats.
@@unclematt3 I never heard of Lloyd Daniels until I seen your comment. I looked him up and yeah what a shame how his career turned out. He seemed like he had major potential and had no problem putting up over 20ppg while he was healthy, but drugs and alcohol took over.
Lol, it's hard to see Rodman on the other end of the infamous Pistons genius mind game wizardry. Rodman was clearly still the student as Bill got in his head and stayed there even till the bitter end by congratulating him to his face for getting ejected. Rodman really lost it at that moment.
@R G He had a poor year for Detroit, but the Pistons gave up on him way to early, so they traded him back to San Antonio for freaking Bill Curley and Elliot went on to get another all-star nod for the Spurs a year later. Pistons management was terrible during this era.
@R G He avg. only 12 ppg that year, way below his normal production. Maybe he was a bad fit, but I still think they gave up on him too early, esp. considering he had already been an all-star once for the Spurs and was only 26 years old that season.
@R G LMAO. The "Big O". I remember Barkley talking sh*t to Miller when he was with the Suns: "Man, you couldn't hit the top of that (basketball) rim unless there was a Big Mac sitting on it"
Rodman had redeeming qualities as a player, that is why he has 5 rings and Laimbeer has 2. Teams paid for good players, not punk ass hacks. that is why he has rings with teams other than the Pistons. Laimbeer was a punk and a hack, Rodman, as much as a flake as he was and is,was the best defensive player of his generation.
@@mt3311Rodman was a bench player who honestly costed Detroit against the C’s and LA before they won in 89-90 , laimbeer could score , protect the paint and rebound , Rodman wasn’t an all around player like bill he was just a defensive menace who learned how to be dirty from mahorn
@@andresdelportillo9917 Rodman was never on any team to score. He was the greatest defensive player of his generation. Laimbeer was a thug who had no redeeming quality as a player other than his skill in pissing people off to get them off their game. He had no other game. If he wasn't there to piss people off, he would not have been there. I would have thrown an elbow at his face too. He was a pink. Laimbeer was not the rebounder or defensive player Rodman was. Laimbeer couldn't hold Rodman's jock when it came to rebounding and playing defense.
@@mt3311 Rodman wasn’t even the best defender on his team during the Detroit era , Rodman got embarrassed by worthy , bird , Wilkins and then pippen , dumars was the best defender on that squad and laimbeer was the best rebounder while salley was the best shot blocker , Rodman was a bench player who made energetic plays and played his role
@@andresdelportillo9917Really. Rodman had more Rebounds than Salley, and Dumars. Dumars had Sally had 72 blocks, and Rodman had 76. Tell me again how 72 is better than 76? Laimbeer had 4 more total rebounds than Laimbeer, Laimbeer had more offensive rebounds as a Center than Rodman did as a Foward. Rodman got more defensive rebounds as a Foward than Laimbeer got as a Center. The numbers don't match your assertion about him on the team. Dumars wasn't the defender on that squad he was the scorer. The only 4 to score on that team were, Thomas, Dumars, Johnson, and Laimbeer. Three of the 4 scored in excess of 1100 points, and Thomas scored over 1400 points. Dumars was scoring points, not rebounds, or blocking shots.
This video makes me laugh so much because Dennis knew as well as anybody about Laimbeer and how he agitates opposing player yet STILL fell for it. Laimbeer underrated af
laimbeers soft lol, he only depended on people not fighting him because he was white, any time someone did fight back this dude ended with a black eye and had to take 4 games off
Like AJ Pierzynski. However, AJ was usually the smartest guy on the diamond, and Bill was the roughest/dirtiest on the court. Both dicks. Different, but effective. I loved having AJ.
dennis was still trying to find his groove here w/ the spurs after being in a structured family atmosphere in detroit. sadly, he never did get to bond solidly w/ his mates at san antonio. more than anything else, he was considered a distraction in texas.
@Mark Grace The admiral was not a leader. Robinson only cared about stats. Jordan and Phil gave Dennis Room. When he f up Mike would let him know. Detroit same way. Robinson could careless. Big difference my friend and Three Three Championships in a row. Tells you the system wasn't working in San Antonio. No matter how you try to explain it. Dennis will you his all when you show that you want him and back him. Leadership comes in all different types of ways. I'm from the chi and I seen this dude bust his ass, why because he had the support and the fans. So again three championships from this dude giving his all. I was pissed when he got suspended for kicking a photographer for many games or getting toss. But when he plays he flat hustle and play. Tim Duncan gets so much love because he is a team player, Robinson was all about himself. Pistons won championships with Rodman. Regardless all the talk, Jordan love this dude, Pip got over the hate for Rodman and trust him. Numbers don't lie and when teams are in sync it's no stopping them.
That was solely due to john stockton and karl malone beating them EVERY year in the playoffs during the spurs/rodman years...some of the most intense playoff basketball ive ever seen!
Bill Laimbeer was well known as being the baddest bad boy Dennis Rodman became The Badboy later on but Laimbeer was definitely The Baddest. Imagine if Bill Laimbeer joined The Bulls they would have been even better.
What makes you think any other team would want bill laimbeer on their team . When just like bird once said laimbeer would rather fight than play basketball..
@@JohnSmith-pb4ri no, his bad reputation came from laying out anyone that cut across the court on him. That and that deranged look in his eye. Mahorn made you think he was crazy for real.
No you didn't coach Dennis Rodman Dennis Rodman the smarter than Bill laimbeer Dennis Rodman didn't try to rip somebody's head off literally like I saw Lambert Larry Bird and a few other players oh Michael Jordan too boy Dennis Rodman actually paid a guy that hit the room at every conceivable angle I did this all the time throughout several hundred bricks at him so if you know precisely where the ball is going to go he's six seven guy but there are guys taller heavier stronger than Rodman but I've seen him come up with 32 when he played for the Spurs in one game so Dennis Rodman is certainly could change a teams imminent future when the guys getting 23-24 rebound every night as a matter of fact Shaq said Dennis Rodman was the only guy that could guard him.
Kind of felt like the other way around especially when Rodman threw the ball off of him. Though Laimbeer definitely trolled with the clapping when Rodman got a sec tech. I think Rodman was extra emotional because of his first game back in Detroit.
Bill did not teach Rodman rebounding and defense. Rodman is all time best top 3 ever in rebounding and defense. Where is Laimbeer in those categories. Laimbeer will be known as bully and enforcer. Rodman will always be remembered as a GREAT player.
i've been a piston fan since 1959 - as a kid i've played in games before the pistons played at Cobo hall. Dennis in his early bad boy personna was the best. Did you notice bill outplayed him and the pistons beat him?
Hakeem Ewing Jahhhdan/Pippen You guys got screwed by a bunch of lazy Gunnar primadonna political extremists who couldn't pass 1st grade without someone else taking their tests .
We never heard of what some uneducated dbags party line minion athlete thought about every single political issue and what they typed on their phone when we were watching sportcenter 😬
The weird part is that I've heard some old Gen Xers talk about how they hate Laimbeer bc he was a dirty player. Lol. They forgave Rodman and Mahorn for being extra physical but Laimbeer to them was out there to hurt people.
I have a framed, autographed Rodman Pistons jersey on which he inscribed, "BAD BOYS FOR LIFE." Last week, I got into a conversation plumber who was doing maintenance in my townhouse. We discussed how the recent inflation is killing us. "Hey, if you need money, why don't you sell the Rodman jersey? It's gotta be worth $500 at least." "Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllle nah."
@@mehkibrown8637 Laimbeer is the master of nothing basketball related, besides cheatin and fouling players like a brainless Neanderthal. Dennis Rodman mastered the art of rebounding. Don’t compare that scrub to Rodman
Damn watching Bill you can really see where Dennis got all his antics from..lol
Lol! Laimbeer was a better Rodman than Rodman...if that makes sense.
@@oldhickory4686 absolutely lol
Right
but Bill Lame beer doesnt have nearly as many rings though.
@@rainbowodysseybyjonlion And Rebounds and DPOY
Dennis Rodman in a Spurs jersey, Sean Elliot in a Pistons jersey. Bizzaro world indeed
Sean Eliott returned to San Antonio in 1994.
Dennis said!
Nicely 3 seconds 👌 please.
Rodman didn’t get good until he became a Bull
@@michaelpipetap8307 you should keep your mouth shut if you don't know anything about the subject.
@@michaelpipetap8307 He was only defensive player of the year for the Pistons years before he felt anything but disgust for the Bulls. Not really good.
People forget that it wasnt just Jordan that made the league so watchable in the 90s. There was a plethora of colorful characters like Rodman, Gary Payton, Mahorn, Lambeer which made the league so fun to watch.
Your mother too
Totally...there were good guys and bad guys. And players didn't move around as much, so rivalries were allowed to develop that would run for years. It was a great product.
Laimbeer gave Dennis a Master Class in agitation and distraction. Rodman would learn all those lessons and apply them a few years later with the Bulls.
Rodman was a great agitator but was volatile himself. Bill was almost always in control.
No doubt
Rodman didn't wait until he got with the Bulls to apply those antics he was doing them his whole career!
He put on an absolute clinic in mind games
Rodman said his life went downhill after they fired Chuck Daly and dismantled the Bad Boy Pistons in the early 90's. For him, it was like losing the only real family he had and he took it personally. Things got worse when he came to the Spurs because they tried to micro manage every facet of his life and it bothered him a lot. All that stuff must have affected his game on the floor both physically and mentally. It wasn't until he went to the Bulls that he finally got his mojo back and found a new home.
No One can make Rodman so mad, except Laimbeer
Rodman was the only Piston to comfort Laimbeer when he got beaten down by Parish...
Rodman was pretty mad his entire stay in San Antonio
Rodman forgot Bill Laimbeer was the master teacher.
Dang that was Tom Thibodeau as an Assistant Coach of the San Antonio Spurs, with a head full of hair, holding back Dennis Rodman at the end there.
Was that really him? I thought he kind of looked like him from an angle but I couldn't really tell because he looked a lot younger, skinnier, and had a lot more hair.
Mista Thibbs!!
And that's how Rodman learned to use taunting while keeping his cool and the opposing player agitated.
This was bill laimbeer teaching rodman his last lessons.
False opinion lol
The way Dennis is dressed in the opening interview makes it seem like 2022
Bill Lambeers combat basketball in full effect. Crazy rodman took this act up another notch as the years went on hahaha
Bill laimbeer was a 6'11 punk. Instigator...a cheap shot artist and actor...Larry Bird is on record that punk Bill was the dirtiest player.
I don't know what game you were watching but lame beer elbowed Rodman in the face several times
It is that the NBA hated Rodman's lifestyle and wanted him out of the league. Rodman should have given lame beer a broken nose.
Ugh I had that game on Super Nintendo 🤦♂️
@@Gogetta80 It was pretty fun if you didn't know what to expect & had no concept of who Bill Lambeer was at the time. I used to imagine it took place in the same future as Smash TV.
It was just like practice ....and Laimbeer knew exactly what buttons to push.
Dennis learn from the master, but he got schooled
awesome video! love seeing Worm battling against his "mentor"... hahaha
Rodman could not be controlled by David Robinson or John Lucas in San Antonio. It would take players with the presence of a Michael Jordan or Isiah Thomas or a coach with the authority such as Chuck Daley or Phil Jackson to keep Rodman focused. Even Shaq and Kobe with Kurt Rambis as head coach could not keep Rodman on track. I have a feeling that if Phil Jackson had started with the Lakers in the '98-'99 season, he would have been able to keep Rodman mentally and emotionally focused for them to win the championship. They certainly had the talent with a Shaq who was still peaking, Kobe who was starting at that point and some veterans.
Jackson couldn't keep Rodman in check at all. The only person who reached him was Chuck Daly because Rodman loved him so much.
Laimbeer is king of trolling
To this day Larry Bird still hates Laimbeer.
Rodman never reached the level. This battle was over even before it started.
Lol Bill isn’t even close to Rodman’s skill level! There was no “Battle”
@@ryandavis8658
well someone didnt get it...
@@ryandavis8658 If you want to say Rodman was a better career player than Laimbeer, I can definitely agree with that. But Laimbeer was still Rodman's mentor when it came to the game of mental intimidation.
You smokin or what? Pinecone!
I would say Rodman got schooled how to manipulate the situation. Later in Chicago he was even better. Never snapped.
Laimbeer, the Prince of Chaos, deserves the HOF.
The student lost to the teacher.
Rodman learned the irritation game from Laimbeer.
Dennis thinking "Damn, so that's why the rest of the league hates Laimbeer"!
😂😂😂
I truly love it when Dennis said he not friends on the court and no pity on none of them that he out there to battle and win just like they out there to do the same...i really miss watching him play
What's the last book you read?
@@whiskeymonk4085 What do you mean?
@@charlesparksmd Simple question.
@@whiskeymonk4085 🤨
The last book I read was Salems Lot. Not that anyone should give a rip!
1:42 If you were a Pistons fan in those days, you know that sequence symbolized Lindsey Hunter's whole career.
"This kid might be a huge star. He has the potential to be the next---- aaaaand NO."
Yep
100%
Bill was the undisputed king of the head games. He could get you off your game so easy. Teams would just self destruct.
Teams need a guy like that. Especially then.
You can damn the guy to Hell, but one should admit that he brought something to the table.
I REALLY don't understand what Dennis was thinking... He LEARNED from Bill...
@@alanduff1054 Me either. Even looking at this clip almost 30 years later and I'm yelling at the screen saying, what the hell are you doing? For someone as good as Dennis was at getting in players heads and taking them out of their games he sure got a taste of his own medicine here.
@@henny6566 well you have to remember Laimbeer was much older there is a good chance Rodman learned a lot from him. 25 years later it's easy to forget they were not the same generation
Not really, plenty did it better than him. Some days you.just get a bad ref
I don't care that Dennis has played for the Spurs and the Bulls, for me, he will always be a Bad Boy from the Pistons.
And terrorize and own by Jordan 🤣🤭✌️
💯
He was a dog in Chicago
FOREVER....
Lakers and Dallas as well
Sean Elliot went Hollywood on that push.
When Rodman got in his face, Bill looked ready to lay him out until he realized it was his old buddy🤣
Man walks onto the floor like a bully to play against a a team who already know what pushes his buttons.
Lmao those refs must’ve inspired Joey Crawford
Laimbeer Schooled Rodman
But Later Years Rodman Adapted The Lesson He Learned From Laimbeer.
Detroit should have never let him go. Probably the best rebounder to ever lace up shoes.
Top 4 all time defender as well. Big mistake by the pistons. Basketball will always remember the worm.
I don't think either had a choice watch the 30 for 30 9n it it's a great 1 👍
President Bush himself said there's not going to be any more "Bad Boy's" in regards to the Detroit Pistons, then immediately the expansion happened and Mahorn was the first to get traded away.
Wilt or Moses. Then Rodman
Wilt or Moses. Then Rodman
for his size he is #1. he really was a master at predicting the rebounds direction. he would whats rebounds for hours until he noticed a pattern. i like to compare him to bill russell. a modern bad boy version.
Seeing how this game took place in the early 90’s these calls were horrendous. Rodman was marked by the Ref’s before the game even started.
And pistons fans still respect rodman when got ejected
Bill only played 11 games that season. Luckily that got to go up.against each other once.
The Pistons' bad boys wore their bodies out with their style of play, but they got two championships out of it. It is amazing Rodman was able to continue for so many years afterwards. It shows the kind of athletic talent he really was.
@vegadog he got drafted he was 25 so a lot less wear and tear on his body. Same result from never having to carry a scoring load, that beats up your knees and joints. Even so, the guy was very gifted athletically
Bill didn't waste any time. The elbow & arm was all on Rodman's neck as Bill attempted to block out for the rebound
@@earllewis1229
That was the NBA back then. Bill had the inside position. From there, the fact that he's mugging Dennis? They didn't care back then. No one from the Pistons would be successful in today's NBA, whereas a lot of guys back then like MJ would be even better with no one beating the crap out of him. Imagine Shaq playing today where no one could even touch him? Holy crap, he would need a triple team every time the ball got near him!
Isiah Thomas would have been successful in any era,any time.
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
Bill taught Dennis. Bill the true goat of it haha
Bill Laimbeer was the Jesus of the NBA. If ever there was a player who epitomized love, kindness, sportsmanship, and forgiveness…it was Bill.
Laimbeer taught Rodman every dirty trick he knows. Even the 🪱 is no match.
90s basketball was peak
Was that a young Tom Thibodeau at the end holding him back??
That's what Rodman got for politely trying to call out Lamibeer in the beginning...."3 SECONDS PLEASE!"...next thing..box out, frustration and a tech..It was crazy how Bill could take you out your psyche real quick🤣
Rodman was like his protege
Laimber the Jedi mind trick master.
To be fair Lambeer basically punched him in the face like 10 times and not called for it once.
How can you watch a whole 3 point game after watching this jewel? Man, I miss the good old days!!!
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Amen buddy
true, when NBA was a man's game
@@BigfootBionic when it was actual basketball lol not loaf-a-rilla playground fast break cherry picking polticosity Twitter fest haha
@@BigfootBionic uneducated narcissist greedy braggarts
The worm got baited by his teacher
That last foul was like a parallel twilight zone dimension kind of thing, seeing Spurs Rodman foul Pistons Elliott lol.
What high lite are you watching the guard was acting like a little girl...Rodman barely shoved him.
And that 6'11 punk lamebeer girly man should have won an acting award for exaggerating any Rodman contact, as though Rodman was the biblical Sampson
@@dannoah1002 Samson lol
You have no idea what that guy was talking about haha
@@dannoah1002 you are not smart enough to tie your own shoelaces
@@uncasunga1800 That's why I wear loafers...I know my limitations.
@@dannoah1002 I love it that guys like you hate Bill Laimbeer. I would like to be present to see what would happen if you and Bill were face-to-face and you called him a punk girly man. You would be suing for you hospital bills to be paid.
Laimbeer is Rodman's teacher. He couldn.t beat him on his own game.
Nonsense the refs were soft!
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I don't know WHAT Rodman was thinking...
Laimbeer was a much better player than most think. He wasn’t like Mahorn who was just an enforcer.
Bill Laimbeer to Dennis Rodman after the game: “you are my greatest pupil, and I will be proud to pass the torch to you when I retire, but until then, I’m still the maestro.”
Laimbeer got a way with so much this game.
That’s like pro wrestling. The refs pretend they don’t see the stuff Laimbeer is doing and make the calls against the other guy.
Are you kidding? Bill Laimbeer had 3,633 personal fouls called on him during his career ranking him # 23 all time in NBA history.
To put that in perspective Dennis Rodman only had 2,843 personal foul called on him while playing two less seasons.
So the refs went after Laimbeer a lot more often than they went after Rodman.
Chris Umscheid, Exactly, the dirty player lamebeer was flopping everytime there was Rodman contact. The ref's should have been docked a games wages for incompetence.
@@dahoss5405 Not that night...lame beer played the girly man flopping around at the least contact of Rodman.
That makes lame beer a punk...
Larry Bird said he was the dirtiest player he ever played against!
@@dannoah1002 I mean if someone baits you and you take it... You're a fool. Rodman was already hot tempered.. and he bought right in.
@@dannoah1002 and mj said bird was the dirtiest player he ever played against
Rodman doesn't belong in the hall of the fame
Laimbeer was a dirty player but he was a master at getting into people heads.
he wasn't in rodman's head, the refs were, first tech on rodman was total bullshit, i could get inside someone's head too if i could stick my giant elbow in their neck for 5 steps.
He was good at other things of the game too
@@Realdealrob True. He lead the league one year in rebounding and was an excellent 3 point shooter for a big man when that was not common.
You right there. He always was trying to hurt players intentionally. That's why he isn't a hof player.
Laimbeer was a complete tool but yeah, definitely was a valuable asset on the court.
2:20 Just a momentary peak of Lloyd Daniels, the guy who was supposed to be Magic Johnson with a real jumpshot, but who never quite worked out.
Daniels was a drunk. That ruined his career.
Thought that was Antonio Daniels
@@kylein9869 I may be wrong, but Lloyd Daniels was with the Spurs from 92-94, and he wore #24 with them, so I think it's him. Antonio was with the Spurs from 98-02 and he work #46. I think it is Lloyd Daniels. He's one of the great tragedies of basketball, an immense talent who had a horrible upbringing and who could never get off drugs. Had he had some kind of a normal upbringing and been sober, he could have been mentioned in the conversations about the greats.
@@unclematt3 I never heard of Lloyd Daniels until I seen your comment. I looked him up and yeah what a shame how his career turned out. He seemed like he had major potential and had no problem putting up over 20ppg while he was healthy, but drugs and alcohol took over.
Lol, it's hard to see Rodman on the other end of the infamous Pistons genius mind game wizardry.
Rodman was clearly still the student as Bill got in his head and stayed there even till the bitter end by congratulating him to his face for getting ejected.
Rodman really lost it at that moment.
Bill loved getting the last laugh. He knew he got in Rodman head and it lead to Rodman losing it and getting ejected.
And then the Worm joined the Bulls and MJ and won three more titles…poor Bill enjoyed winning a regular season game on a Tuesday in Detroit. Yay
@@g99se9 awww...thanks for the info...not EVERYBODY already knew that, you lil piss-ant hater.
I didn’t know Sean Elliott ever played for Detroit. Always knew him as a Spur.
@R G He had a poor year for Detroit, but the Pistons gave up on him way to early, so they traded him back to San Antonio for freaking Bill Curley and Elliot went on to get another all-star nod for the Spurs a year later. Pistons management was terrible during this era.
@R G He avg. only 12 ppg that year, way below his normal production. Maybe he was a bad fit, but I still think they gave up on him too early, esp. considering he had already been an all-star once for the Spurs and was only 26 years old that season.
@R G LMAO. The "Big O". I remember Barkley talking sh*t to Miller when he was with the Suns:
"Man, you couldn't hit the top of that (basketball) rim unless there was a Big Mac sitting on it"
@@jeffjackson9679 Barkley the best lol
My first Five:
1.Bill Liambeer
2.Bruce Bowen
3.Zaza Pachulia
4.Dennis Rodman
5.Karl Malone
Meta World Peace
No Shaq? Cmon
Charles Oakley?!
remove karl malone replace john starks, pat beverley, artest or draymond green
@@enriquesundiang3558 hahahahahaha
Rodman learned a lot from Laimbeer. The Master and his apprentice at work.
Rodman had redeeming qualities as a player, that is why he has 5 rings and Laimbeer has 2. Teams paid for good players, not punk ass hacks. that is why he has rings with teams other than the Pistons. Laimbeer was a punk and a hack, Rodman, as much as a flake as he was and is,was the best defensive player of his generation.
@@mt3311Rodman was a bench player who honestly costed Detroit against the C’s and LA before they won in 89-90 , laimbeer could score , protect the paint and rebound , Rodman wasn’t an all around player like bill he was just a defensive menace who learned how to be dirty from mahorn
@@andresdelportillo9917 Rodman was never on any team to score. He was the greatest defensive player of his generation. Laimbeer was a thug who had no redeeming quality as a player other than his skill in pissing people off to get them off their game. He had no other game. If he wasn't there to piss people off, he would not have been there. I would have thrown an elbow at his face too. He was a pink. Laimbeer was not the rebounder or defensive player Rodman was. Laimbeer couldn't hold Rodman's jock when it came to rebounding and playing defense.
@@mt3311 Rodman wasn’t even the best defender on his team during the Detroit era , Rodman got embarrassed by worthy , bird , Wilkins and then pippen , dumars was the best defender on that squad and laimbeer was the best rebounder while salley was the best shot blocker , Rodman was a bench player who made energetic plays and played his role
@@andresdelportillo9917Really. Rodman had more Rebounds than Salley, and Dumars. Dumars had Sally had 72 blocks, and Rodman had 76. Tell me again how 72 is better than 76? Laimbeer had 4 more total rebounds than Laimbeer, Laimbeer had more offensive rebounds as a Center than Rodman did as a Foward. Rodman got more defensive rebounds as a Foward than Laimbeer got as a Center. The numbers don't match your assertion about him on the team. Dumars wasn't the defender on that squad he was the scorer. The only 4 to score on that team were, Thomas, Dumars, Johnson, and Laimbeer. Three of the 4 scored in excess of 1100 points, and Thomas scored over 1400 points. Dumars was scoring points, not rebounds, or blocking shots.
This video makes me laugh so much because Dennis knew as well as anybody about Laimbeer and how he agitates opposing player yet STILL fell for it. Laimbeer underrated af
yea because nobody likes him
laimbeers soft lol, he only depended on people not fighting him because he was white, any time someone did fight back this dude ended with a black eye and had to take 4 games off
@@keyboardwarrior4092works in his advantage
Yeah, guy assaults people and they get mad at him, what a great athlete.
@@redrick8900Rodman was just as dirty…… from kicking pippen in the face to elbowing Alonzo mourning in the ribs
Bill Laimbeer is the type of guy you would absolutely hate to play against, but you'd love to have as your teammate.
Oh, he'll no!!! I'd ask for a trade.
His teammates hated him too. No one wanted him on their team.
@@alecvip7562 Isiah Thomas and Rick Mahorn disagree.
@@alecvip7562 he was a leader of a team of bastards
Like AJ Pierzynski. However, AJ was usually the smartest guy on the diamond, and Bill was the roughest/dirtiest on the court. Both dicks. Different, but effective.
I loved having AJ.
Laimbeer took Rodman back to school here. Rodman became different and better once he got to The Bulls with Phil and MJ leadership. Plus Jordan’s aura
Jordan left his Black wife for a Wyte woman 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@vanvarner7679 cause why not?
@@vanvarner7679 I would too!
@@vanvarner7679 MJ left her hispanic wife for another hispanic wife.. MJ loves latinas, he has good taste if you ask me..
dude, rodman's rebounding legend continued with the spurs.. why do you think the bulls would get rodman if his career tanked in san antonio?
Bill got the Hometown treatment while Dennis became an afterthought of Detroit.
The apprentice meets the master.
Laimbeer and Rodman...masters of getting in your head.
Masters of elbowing people in the face. 😂
@@Cohen.the.Worrier
Yeah, that too!
Robert Parish fist got in Lambeers head one time,it hurt
dennis was still trying to find his groove here w/ the spurs after being in a structured family atmosphere in detroit. sadly, he never did get to bond solidly w/ his mates at san antonio. more than anything else, he was considered a distraction in texas.
That's why we welcome him in the Chi. Three more rings.
@Mark Grace The admiral was not a leader. Robinson only cared about stats. Jordan and Phil gave Dennis Room. When he f up Mike would let him know. Detroit same way. Robinson could careless. Big difference my friend and Three Three Championships in a row. Tells you the system wasn't working in San Antonio. No matter how you try to explain it. Dennis will you his all when you show that you want him and back him. Leadership comes in all different types of ways. I'm from the chi and I seen this dude bust his ass, why because he had the support and the fans. So again three championships from this dude giving his all. I was pissed when he got suspended for kicking a photographer for many games or getting toss. But when he plays he flat hustle and play. Tim Duncan gets so much love because he is a team player, Robinson was all about himself. Pistons won championships with Rodman. Regardless all the talk, Jordan love this dude, Pip got over the hate for Rodman and trust him. Numbers don't lie and when teams are in sync it's no stopping them.
That was solely due to john stockton and karl malone beating them EVERY year in the playoffs during the spurs/rodman years...some of the most intense playoff basketball ive ever seen!
loved every second of this
I recall an interview rodman had where he said, "bill lambier is crazier than I am."
And way smarter.
@@sheneedsme exactly much smarter
and much lamer
1:49 Dennis was to smart on defense. He did not have to be dirty just annoying and cunning.
4:08 young Tom Thibs.
@ 2:10, Laimbeer was about push Rodman but stopped himself. Bad boys for life.
I bet Sean Elliott wanted to hop on the flight with the Spurs after the game.
He did the next season
He did the next season
Rodman was targeted by the refs many times and he was doing very little for them to act that way.
Bill Laimbeer was well known as being the baddest bad boy Dennis Rodman became The Badboy later on but Laimbeer was definitely The Baddest. Imagine if Bill Laimbeer joined The Bulls they would have been even better.
Mahorn was the baddest not silly billy
What makes you think any other team would want bill laimbeer on their team . When just like bird once said laimbeer would rather fight than play basketball..
@@ericcheatem6261 Have to disagree with that. Mahorn was actually a likeable guy. His bad reputation came from being friends with Bill.
@@JohnSmith-pb4ri no, his bad reputation came from laying out anyone that cut across the court on him. That and that deranged look in his eye. Mahorn made you think he was crazy for real.
@@ronaldjackson7541 any team would love have Bill on their team
Love the announcers! They dont act like middle aged women when they see a lil physicality.
When Student tried to defeat the Master!
Hey! Look at Thibs 4:15!
They later would let Dennis get away with all these moves as a member of the Bulls
It's still crazy seeing elliot in that pistons Jersey
Wow thats young thibs, never knew he coached rodman.
No you didn't coach Dennis Rodman Dennis Rodman the smarter than Bill laimbeer Dennis Rodman didn't try to rip somebody's head off literally like I saw Lambert Larry Bird and a few other players oh Michael Jordan too boy Dennis Rodman actually paid a guy that hit the room at every conceivable angle I did this all the time throughout several hundred bricks at him so if you know precisely where the ball is going to go he's six seven guy but there are guys taller heavier stronger than Rodman but I've seen him come up with 32 when he played for the Spurs in one game so Dennis Rodman is certainly could change a teams imminent future when the guys getting 23-24 rebound every night as a matter of fact Shaq said Dennis Rodman was the only guy that could guard him.
Dennis Rodman missed out on social media
Lol laimbeer kind of trolled Rodman in this game
Kind of felt like the other way around especially when Rodman threw the ball off of him. Though Laimbeer definitely trolled with the clapping when Rodman got a sec tech. I think Rodman was extra emotional because of his first game back in Detroit.
This is right up Laimbeer's alley 😂 because he helped raise Rodman
Trolled by the refs
Bill was an overrated 🥒
Nag, absolutely, and the ref's ignored Lame beer elbows& forearms to Rodmans face.
It's awesome they hate each other on the court but are friends off of it.
The apprentice meets the master..dennis later bball years you could tell where he got his skills from
Dennis master is mahorn
OBVIOUS to a Piston fan...
Bill did not teach Rodman rebounding and defense. Rodman is all time best top 3 ever in rebounding and defense. Where is Laimbeer in those categories. Laimbeer will be known as bully and enforcer. Rodman will always be remembered as a GREAT player.
@@icecreaman2010 hell yeah ! facts and stats man, the Worm is more wiser
@@icecreaman2010 I think he meant about mind games.
Dennis learned his tactics and mind games from Laimbeer.
Rodman was so ahead of his time. The physical fitness, the tatts, the hair. Truly one of the greats.
Rodman wasn't a normal person.
Nah
@@showbread9366 i know more primitive
Back when Men played
Its amazing how quickly Rodman was unraveled by the very same tactics he used when he played for the Pistons.
Tom Thibodeau making an appearance
i've been a piston fan since 1959 - as a kid i've played in games before the pistons played at Cobo hall. Dennis in his early bad boy personna was the best. Did you notice bill outplayed him and the pistons beat him?
Yoda reminding Luke who the master of head games was.
Bill Laimbeer is the epitome of The basketball us pre-millenials miss.
Hakeem Ewing Jahhhdan/Pippen
You guys got screwed by a bunch of lazy Gunnar primadonna political extremists who couldn't pass 1st grade without someone else taking their tests .
Rik Smits Manute haha
We never heard of what some uneducated dbags party line minion athlete thought about every single political issue and what they typed on their phone when we were watching sportcenter 😬
All time favorite player
The weird part is that I've heard some old Gen Xers talk about how they hate Laimbeer bc he was a dirty player. Lol. They forgave Rodman and Mahorn for being extra physical but Laimbeer to them was out there to hurt people.
I have a framed, autographed Rodman Pistons jersey on which he inscribed, "BAD BOYS FOR LIFE."
Last week, I got into a conversation plumber who was doing maintenance in my townhouse. We discussed how the recent inflation is killing us.
"Hey, if you need money, why don't you sell the Rodman jersey? It's gotta be worth $500 at least."
"Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllle nah."
Dennis tried to beat the Master (Bill Laimbeer), at his own game, but could not
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No
@@gamelove100 yes.
@@mehkibrown8637 Laimbeer is the master of nothing basketball related, besides cheatin and fouling players like a brainless Neanderthal. Dennis Rodman mastered the art of rebounding. Don’t compare that scrub to Rodman
If you mean he couldn't out goon the king of goons, because Rodman was an actual skilled basketball player; then yes.
teacher vs student
Laimbeer was dirty, but his Ball IQ was amazing compared to most players.
Laimbeer is a a…….hole
@@kaukase539 , he definitely is and played dirty. He knew exactly what to do to get Rodman out of the game.
Ball IQ? Nah he’s a punk turned into a basketball player
And he could rebound and shoot the ball
Laimbeer and Rodman were both great rebounders
Work horses rebounding machines
Back when basketball was still fun.
back when basketball was incredibly racist
Basket used to be great. Idk what it is now.
Say whatever you want about hacks in bball but boxing out a guy holding out his troath was something special and I miss it so much.
Rodman didn't respect Robinson
And shoulda been other way around. That’s on Rodman. But worked out for both in the end.
I used to serve Lindsay hunter at tgifridays
Bill was the Master. Every team would love him. Every other team HATED him.
I loved back Rodman then. I don't miss this today at all.
Laimbeer played Rodman like a fiddle and even clapped at him and s*** talked at him as he's getting ejected. easy day at the office for him.
REAL easy...
Funny how Rodman thought he had their number when it was the other way around. He did eventually take it to another level.
4:08 - is that Thibs?
It does look like him, but I’m not sure. He was an assistant on that team though that year
Indeed.
@@Swove2204 definitely him with hair😂😂😂😂
Yes, Thibs was an assistant coach that year for the Spurs
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