J. L. Dussek - Sonata in A-flat Major "Le Retour à Paris", Op. 64/70 (Becker)

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  • @frankbrownlow5063
    @frankbrownlow5063 3 года назад +16

    I’ve been playing Dussek since I was a schoolboy. The development of his style from its Mozartian beginnings is fascinating, and related to his connection with the English piano maker, John Broadwood, whose pianos (to whose design Dussek contributed) had a greater range, and were far more powerful and resonant, than anything else currently available-though when he composed Op.64 he was back in France and playing an Ėrard. His wonderful concerto for two pianos in B-flat, Op.63 (1805-6) is a good example of the power and energy of his playing. Beethoven knew his work, and imitated it, and I’ve thought that the thematic trills in the opening subject of the Brahms 1st concerto owe something to Dussek’s trilling in Op.63. Dussek’s not easy to play, but well worth the effort, and Markus Becker’s approach to Op.64 (much the best I’ve heard) is an excellent model.

    • @stephanjwilliams
      @stephanjwilliams 2 года назад

      Thank you for that information. I love Dussek's music, especially Ops. 44, 61, 64/70, and 77. His Messe Solemnelle in G major is wonderful as well.

  • @simonballard6413
    @simonballard6413 2 года назад +6

    A marvellous and original composer, whose music, at its best, looks way into the future.

  • @mawile3714
    @mawile3714 10 месяцев назад +2

    There are quite a few similarities that I notice between this and Schumann's 3rd Piano Sonata, and much like his, this sonata took me a few listens before I started to really get into it. It has now become one of my favorite (if not my favorite) of Dussek's Sonatas.

  • @benlindsay6012
    @benlindsay6012 3 года назад +9

    I think Markus Becker gave a very fine performance of this fairly technical sonata !

  • @nonenoneonenonenone
    @nonenoneonenonenone 3 года назад +7

    Dussek was perhaps the most famous composer of his time, a fine representative of the Prague School, perhaps its classical peak. He was a rival of Beethoven's. He also studied and composed a large body of music for harp. He moved to London later in life and simplified and clarified his style. Tia DeNora wrote an important book on Dussek and Beethoven.

    • @nonenoneonenonenone
      @nonenoneonenonenone 3 года назад

      Whoever put up this score, it is not a good one, the ornamentation is incorrect.

    • @nonenoneonenonenone
      @nonenoneonenonenone 3 года назад

      Musica Bohemica editions are bad that way.

    • @j.vonhogen9650
      @j.vonhogen9650 3 года назад +1

      He was indeed a famous composer and a brilliant pianist as well, but he wasn't "the most famous composer of his time". With giants like Rameau and Beethoven as his contemporaries, it's not likely that he ever had a chance to receive that badge of honor, despite his fame and popularity. He certainly is criminally underrated as a composer today!

    • @klop4228
      @klop4228 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@nonenoneonenonenone Could also just be the performer who decided to do different ornamentation

  • @jakobler3474
    @jakobler3474 3 года назад +12

    This was composed 1807! Pretty ahead of his time this guy was... - Imho, this is not less "romantic" than Schubert's works.

  • @agseu3668
    @agseu3668 Год назад +1

    Este Dussek é extraordinário. Surpreende sempre.

  • @burakunsal7499
    @burakunsal7499 3 года назад +14

    I have been listening to classical music for 10 years now almost, I have never heard of this composer. I can not believe it, what a marvelous piece, I mean this is as good as a Beethoven sonata, but nobody knows this composer's name. It is so weird.

    • @SlavicSpoon
      @SlavicSpoon  3 года назад +3

      This particular sonata is especially adventurous and also my favorite one!

    • @salvatoregiordano4202
      @salvatoregiordano4202 3 года назад

      his sonatas op 10 are at the level of mozart

    • @basilecortale8076
      @basilecortale8076 3 года назад +1

      maybe it is his only good one

    • @nonenoneonenonenone
      @nonenoneonenonenone 3 года назад +1

      He is very well-known in the USA if only for his sonatinas in many a collection of classical pieces for young pianists, along with Kuhlau.

    • @nonenoneonenonenone
      @nonenoneonenonenone 3 года назад +2

      @@salvatoregiordano4202 Much more interesting. His music has much more variety than German or Austrian composers. What's interesting here is that his figuration is very similar to his harp music, which it usually is not, for piano, and it is not a great deal more chromatic, as in other piano pieces.

  • @godzooke
    @godzooke Год назад +1

    Lovely playing, great shape and sound. I also very much enjoy Christine Croshaw's performance of this sonata, featured on an engaging recording of his chamber music.

  • @gradwhan
    @gradwhan 3 года назад +8

    Joseph Haydn was still alive when this was composed. I would love to hear what he would have thought about that sonata.
    It really reminds me of late Schubert and early Mendelssohn and Chopin. Also Hummel. I suppose both Virtuosos have influenced each other.

  • @hbicht5051
    @hbicht5051 3 года назад +4

    I was completely unaware of this composer before but this is fantastic. Thanks for sharing!

  • @AEPMUSlC
    @AEPMUSlC 3 года назад +3

    Very nice 👍 interesting harmonic shifts

  • @paul7606
    @paul7606 8 месяцев назад +1

    He loved the rolled chords.

  • @kevinhogan7814
    @kevinhogan7814 2 года назад +3

    Though almost everyone cites the similarities to Beethoven, there's no doubt Schubert drew some influence from Dussek's oeuvre.

  • @erika6651
    @erika6651 Год назад +1

    The father of Romanticism? I thought Hummel and Weber were the direct links to Chopin and Schumann. Dussek is certainly more poetic than Hummel and much more tasteful. What a spectacular composition!

  • @avecesar4244
    @avecesar4244 2 года назад +2

    Comienzo muy elegante, recuerda mucho a Schubert y a Beethoven. Seguro que hubo algunas influencias. Yo sólo conocía a este autor por sus sonatas para niños y mucha gente ni eso. Pasa lo mismo que con Clementi. Cuando conoces sus sonatas "adultas" te sorprende el olvido al que han sido sometidos, barridos por Beethoven y Mozart respectivamente. Es injusto el desprecio a grandes músicos, con ideas musicales a la altura de los "genios alemanes". ¿Ha habido quizás algún interés musicológico por ensalzar lo "alemán y austriaco" frente a otras nacionalidades? No creo que Dussek ni Clementi fuesen unos músicos "mediocres" o "de segunda", como se han mostrado hasta ahora. Debe haber una revisión musicólogica de estos autores menospreciados ya...

  • @metteholm4833
    @metteholm4833 Год назад +1

    This seems to reveal, how great a pianist, he actually was. If you could give concerts in Germany, London and at the russian court, you would be far better than mediocre!

  • @helmutlocatelli4070
    @helmutlocatelli4070 5 месяцев назад

    "Ritorno a Parigi" ...che culo!

  • @nonenoneonenonenone
    @nonenoneonenonenone 3 года назад +1

    Pianists need to learn how to break and arpeggiate chords from harpists, they never do it well enough.

    • @AEPMUSlC
      @AEPMUSlC 3 года назад

      What do harpists do that pianists doesn't?

    • @nonenoneonenonenone
      @nonenoneonenonenone 3 года назад

      @@AEPMUSlC They do it much better. Evenly, rhythmically.

    • @mozvi1436
      @mozvi1436 2 года назад +1

      @@nonenoneonenonenone It's easier for harpists since it's a different movement.
      Also, you do not always need to make it artificially even all the time. It's good, but some styles would require you to play differently.
      In any case, their arpeggios are fine, it's not as if you can't appreciate the music anymore.

  • @metteholm4833
    @metteholm4833 Год назад +1

    I wonder, why he has been called "one of the lesser spirits" . He is absolutely not! He was a romantic before romanticism became "it".

  • @thaddeusdubois6209
    @thaddeusdubois6209 3 года назад +1

    Boring. Just a bunch of unrelated ideas thrown together. Zero continuity.......

    • @nonenoneonenonenone
      @nonenoneonenonenone 3 года назад +4

      That's inane.

    • @Chorizo727
      @Chorizo727 3 года назад +4

      Another insignificant snob comment

    • @stephanjwilliams
      @stephanjwilliams 2 года назад +3

      In what way is this just a bunch of unrelated ideas thrown together? I mean, what specifically doesn't fit in?

    • @zastrak9787
      @zastrak9787 2 года назад +1

      It's all very cohesive. . .

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 2 года назад

      true. people do not understand the value of coherency in music.