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Thank your informing us
Your despicable “inshallah” got you an unfollow and unsubscribe from substack. Don’t want to hear language of terrorists when we are talking about an assassination attempt and relying on your for accurate information.
Bruh I'm no fan of radical islam but this guy was a straight up white boy and registered Republican (meaning US citizen)
Ur kinda overreacting a lil bit@@petal3265
I have one simple rule: wait until research has been conducted and never listen to people in the first few hours. It's always a bunch of nonsense they make up to push their own agendas.
I wait for 24 hours
@@10HERBERTThat’s not enough time for a thorough investigation. Have patience.
@@10HERBERT I would wait 2 months.
Yeah I take everything with a huge spoon of salt never believe anything you see coming out of the internet from random people always wait for a confirmation from a credible source
I think it actually works both ways. In the first few hours you’re getting a lot of raw information that hasn’t had a spin put on it yet.
In 1970 during the San Fernando earthquake, my grandparents woke up that morning and thought that bookshelves had failed and dumped hundreds of books off the wall and my grandfather yelled who left the refrigerator door open…… they completely missed that fact they were just woken up by a 6.6 magnitude earthquake…… normalcy bias.
We had an earthquake off the coast years ago where I live and parts of it rippled out to me. I literally slept through the only earthquake ive ever been in because i thought i put the washing machine on. Its surprisingly easy to fall into that.
we had an earthquake about a year ago in western ny. at 6 am i was in my bed and suddenly heard the biggest bang ever. i jumped out of bed and wasn't sure if i even heard a bang. thought i imagined it. later at work i see the headlines that we had an earthquake. my first one . i really felt nothing but heard a big bang.
I was in bed reading a book when the Loma/Prieta earthquake struck. I thought our dog was leaning against the bed and scratching herself and making my bed shake. When I looked around and she wasn’t there I jumped up and the walls seemed to be moving back and forth. I just stood there with my feet moving back and forth. What a wild ride.
i was in san bernardino and though the wind was shaking my semi side to side , i’m like man the wind is strong here lmfao it was an earth quake 😂 i had no idea it was
I woke up and thought intruders were shaking my bed. So maybe a bias toward a possible threat. My neighborhood wasn't so great back then.
Normal people don't train to have the situational awareness to detect unknown threats, react, and respond. Bystanders are either lucky, or unlucky.
It's not that they don't have any situational awareness, it's just that their situational awareness has been trained to notice the things that thus far have been normal to them.
@ThirdLawPair Groups are like sheep they won't do something unless they see the majority doing it first
The target himself was confused and didn't realize what happened... No one except secret service, who was prepared for this scenario, realized it either. It took a good 15 minutes for reporters to label it as an attempt on his life.
apparently secret service agents too
I'd also like to point out, with the bot/fake accounts, they don't care what it's about, because all they want to do is confuse and divide. It's not about sides with them, it's about manipulating you, any way and with any thing.
Confuse and divide
They're bot accounts, all they really care about is the paycheck.
Foreign actors don’t have to divide, we already are divided
@@mmadonna62341 True, but they want to make it worse.
It's the russian approach; misinformation and confusion is the goal. They don't care in the slightest if they contradict themselves.
I remember a documentary on the JFK... Uh... Event.
One thing analysts noted was that in the footage, you could see some people continuing to clap as the first shots rang, while others ducked.
Real life is stranger than fiction at times.
People can have wildly varying processing times.
The truth is that body language/behaviour is not universal. Not all people act the same in any situation. Some might have been shocked, others not even realising whats going on, others ducking down cause they recognized shots... these conspiracy theorists paint everything with broad strokes to fit their narratives.
But the JFK event was fake too. Everything is fake. We are living in full Truman. 😂
"Wow Dallas was so welcoming we literally blew the presidents mind, quickly clap louder "
@@ZhovtoBlakytniyand responses.
So many stupid claims that make absolutely no logical sense going around.
Typical
Cuz for like 90 percent of the people it doesnt have to be logical but have to loud and repeatative enough
@@ChronicAndIronicI mean, don't apply malice, when incompetence fits.
@@ChronicAndIronic Not enough info to have any idea about whether he was a totally alone, part of a group or otherwise involving actual conspiracy vs conspiracy theory.
The stupid claim is the one that says "X Y Z happened, anything else is ridiculous".
@@ChronicAndIronicprove it
I appreciate your detailing "normalcy bias," kind of like "deer in the headlights."
It is the visible iteration of "wtf?"
Fire alarm went off in the office one day. People stayed at their desks, on the phones in their meetings!!!
It's not so much that. Deer in the headlights is that you are actually scared but the fear paralyses you and prevents you from doing something rational.
This is more like a bias to convince yourself that everything is fine and normal. Most of your life things are just normal, so when something like a shooting happens, your brain tries to come up with an explanation for what's happening that isn't unusual.
I had this happen to me recently. I saw two guys running across a busy street, near a bus stop at a train station, and one of them was carrying a box. I didn't even think about it, thought they were just in a hurry to catch a train or bus so they were trying to dodge some traffic running across the street. Only realised thinking about it after they had gone that the box was pretty unusual metal box with a lock on it and that I was pretty sure they had just robbed a Subway across the street, and then sure enough I saw a guy who worked there come out a minute later looking around on the phone to the cops.
I felt guilty for not doing something to stop them, but I wasn't that I was scared that there were two possibly dangerous criminals running past me, I just didn't even cop that there was something I should have been scared of.
@@TheMrplunk I've had that happen dozens of times. I was a supervisor at an automotive parts factory(NTN, we made driveshafts, cv joints, etc) for 10yrs & we'd have regular fire drills. Every time the alarm went off everyone just kept working & ignored it. I had to walk to each manufacturing line & tell them to shut it down & go to our designated area. Thankfully we never had any real fires bcuz nobody took that alarm seriously
Also, people's reaction times are just so much slower than we often realize. I recently saw a video of a guy who put a piece of wood the wrong direction through a table saw. When the saw ripped the wood out of his hand and flung it across the room, you could pause the video and see that his face had no reaction whatsoever. A lot of our perception of events are reconstructing them after the fact.
I know how crazy it can be. When the Ft Hood shooting happened my unit 3-3 ACR was in the field training, I was the RTO. When it happened, it became a real world mission and they used our unit to lock down and augment security at the gates. There's so many crazy stuff coming over the radio. We were on a look out for a white male with a bloody shirt and then another call for a black male with jeans. No one really knows what was going on.
do you know less than .5% of the population has been in the military? so maybe you guys can atop using acronyms that the regular person doesn't recognize.
@@ronblack7870 That's true. Sorry, it's hard thing to overcome after doing it for so long. So 3-3 ACR was my unit at that time, and RTO was basically the guy on the radio relaying information.
@@ronblack7870 Your number is incorrect, between 5-7% of the US population are veterans with approximately 0.7% serving at the moment. It doesn't negate your point, although many acronyms are pretty straight forward, but it does indicate you either made up the number or didn't verify your sources because your ".5%" doesn't cover the current size let alone the veterans in society.
@@ronblack7870someone from florida uses different slang then someone from new york, when a floridian is commenting online is he not going to use his language to do so? same with military people
@@ronblack7870 RTO radio/Telephone operator.
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As someone who knows firearms beyond Hollywood, I could tell from the start that people were going to have some pretty stupid takes. Thanks a bunch.
Heh, they started with "the sniper system, an AR" and have since been all over the map.
Thus far, the only thing missing in the mist is, no space aliens being invoked yet.
Well, beyond my "The Grand Conspiracy of the Space Aliens", which is my default label for any conspiracy theory, all of which are outlandish. And entirely have no space aliens involved, save when fancifully invoked for the purpose of hyperbole that even Helen Keller could see.
In a way though, I am thankful that a minimal skill idiot used the least appropriate common weapon. As much as I may loathe Trump, that ain't how we select candidates and leaders.
And the reality of it was, by the third shot, it was really over. By then, Trump figured out that wasp sting wasn't a wasp, Secret Service yelled for him to get down and for a change, he did what he was told to and agents had covered him with their bodies as they're supposed to do, buying time for the Secret Service snipers to neutralize the threat.
Still, what a goat screw!
As a non firearm user, I too would be shocked. The video I saw has multiple shots, that sounded far too quiet for my expectations
@@MugdornaEver heard of silencers ?
@@5co756 I doubt any silencers were involved. between the inverse square law effect from distance, as well as microphones having a max amplitude they can record. gunshots really do sound muted on recordings.
Yep. For one it's the sound issue, echos, supersonic ammo, etc.
Ai has terrifying implications when it comes to misinformation.
it should only be used for memes.
Ha ha ha AI is so much farther along than y'all think we are already in the times of skynet and all that.
Misinformation and disinformation doesn't require AI.
But deepfakes and AI generated images will certainly make it more "interesting".
@@allgood54 Indeed, that's why those obsessed with "fake news" must be kept out of ai at all costs
@@ClintBarbee-f2l No we're not
I would recommend watching GarandThumb's video "What it sounds like to get shot at" for more information. On the receiving end, bullets traveling through the air sound different than the actual gunshot. The people behind Trump might not have even made the connection that they were gunshots.
@@adamparris8353 thanks to NRA that kid got the semi-automatic rifles,,,
@@EdT.-xt6yv we have the right to keep and bear arms from the constitution not from the NRA... lolzzzz
Dolt
@@EdT.-xt6yv haha pretty new account to be so divisive :Joined Jun 17, 2023
@@matthewwarren7879 to fight govt tyranny . so he was excersizing his 2A rights.
@ronblack7870 trump is not a tyrant, he reduced the power of government infact (if not as much as his base wanted)
Thank you!!!!
I live within 5 miles of the farm show grounds, I’m right here in Butler and I don’t even know what’s happening. Thank you for using your more extensive resources to make sense of all of this.
I'm 3 blocks from the governor's mansion, suffice it to say, he didn't get much sleep.
I'm German and lived in Berlin, when Obama had visited the city. Back then, they shut down basically the whole city around the place where he was supposed to be even hours before he arrived and public transit didn't run for half a day. They even welded the manhole covers for the severs shut.
I'm totally confused, why a city of over 3 million people had to go through this while in your place they weren't even taking care of buildings in the direct vicinity.
But: Had somethin similar happened to Obama back then, you are totally right - even I hadn't known anything. The world has just to wait until Police, FBI and Secet Service have finished their investigations.
And my thoughts are with the man in the audience who lost his life. It doesn't matter to me where he was from or if he was a Trump supporter or not. Going to a political meeting or rally without the fear of being shot is the backbone of democrazy!
@@wookie2222current president bs former president. Current president like has hundreds of secret service. Former likely less then 20. Can’t provide same level of security as current president to 5 former presidents
Well...either Trump was assigned the most incompetent custody of the secret service or the situation has a different background@@wookie2222
@wookie2222 Trump is not the president. He's not even officially the Republican nominee, only the presumptive nominee. With all the Democrats calling for Biden to step down, maybe you can appreciate how much "presumptive nominee" means. The only reason Trump has any secret service protection at all is because he is the former president, and thus is entitled to it for the rest of his life. Candidates for the office of president are not afforded protection until after they are officially nominated.
Who did it?
The kind of person who’s fine with using crowd as backstop. 😒
A registered Republican.
@@markshelor3991 who donated to democrats in 2020 and 2022.
@@markshelor3991 Who donates to a democrat Organisation
@@markshelor3991yeah right. I saw that too. Seems too perfect: and he was wearing a Demolition Ranch shirt. Too perfect
@@markshelor3991 now I hate MAGA, but so did that guy (Matt something), it is easy to register as a Republican, and it is the first thing I would do if I had such plans.
So, the Secret Service finally got the BIG moment to yell, "Donald, duck".
Ya, I have dark humour but I still wonder if one them yelled that out.
most likely down down
I heard “down”.
Yet the tool stood up exposing all the squishy bits.
Well done! Thanks for making my family and I laugh.
Great sense of humor😊
Incredible how fast bridge experts studied up on event security
To be fair, you don't need to be an expert to drag the Secret Service director for saying that roof would've been too dangerous to put a sniper on.
Glad you're here to catch this stuff. We have a lot of opportunistic enemies out there that want the U.S. to fall into a civil war. And some of them are even U.S. citizens.
While information warfare and psych-ops can be effective, foreign influence isn’t what is dividing the US. The US is dividing itself.
@@mmadonna62341You have no idea what you're talking about. *Psy-ops, not psyche-ops is definitely a massive component that is contributing to the division of this country. To discount such a massive variable is intellectually inept or dishonest, at best. I behoove you to do some research before you comment on something that you clearly have very little expertise in. Do better.
And almost ALL of those are democrat and LOVE Biden.
"The US is dividing itself"... yeah, that's being directed. It's very obvious, too.
Social media is extremely easy to use to cause division and it is used to drive either side to extreme ways of thinking.
Both left and right commenters are becoming increasingly less tolerant and that eventually finds its way into the mind of someone that goes extreme, such as this shooter.
Though the local PD admitting the SS told them that particular barn was "outside their perimeter" sounds insane to me and clearly should have had uniformed officers around, if not someone on it or AT LEAST drone coverage.
Anyway. The US isn't just dividing itself, it has a LOT of help from outside/internal influence.
@@EriktheRaids82Dof course foreign powers can influence a country. But there must be some organic division to act upon to be successful. Also thanks for the grammar check. I don’t want to look silly in the RUclips comments, we’re the serious conversations are being had.
Some people in the crowd realized what was happening but they were stuck. It ended too quickly for the crowd to panic.
That and those immediately adjacent to the principal are instructed to remain in place as to not hamper evacuation of the principal.
You can't win with those people though, if the crowd panicked and all ran off in seconds then they would say "how come they escaped so quickly, they must have known it was going to happen".
Trust me i have friends who make conspiracies out of anything, they just make up anything to fit their narrative and then put the burden of proof on you.
Something that I think is crazy is he wasn't under a full security detail. Only after he is the official Republican candidate does he receive a higher level of protection.
@@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 i'm just curious, how do you know he wasn't under a full security detail?
@@american_cosmic That's what an officer that has been part of the security for Trump stated.
If a person puts their "name in the hat" then they'll be assigned a Secret Service detail. Once someone is officially nominated by their party, then the security around the candidate is raised again.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the rules will be changed following this. And considering Trump's rhetoric on the campaign trail I'm surprised he didn't have more security.
So Destiny is disappointed and tweeting that the person should have practiced more
No one should be surprised by that, Destiny is a grifter and a stupid one.
It's approximately 20 hrs since the event. I have watched the vldeo of the event and won't pay anymore attention for at least another 48hrs because ALL there will be is speculation, rumor, hyperbole and almost certainly nothing useful for my understanding the event.
Yup, this is close to my rule that any info in the first 24 hours is highly suspect. Just wait (its okay to talk about it) but don't make firm judgements.
Expect the lib outlets to drop the story by Tuesday. The problem for the democrats is that the other story is Biden.
Yes, YOu should DEFINITELY let everyone else do your research and opinion for you !!
@@dontbetreadin4777 No one here is doing the actual research. We are reading the news.
We will soon learn, from official sources, if one of the teleprompters had a broken reflector. We will eventually learn what projectiles were recovered from those shot. We may learn what was in the shooter's phone and other communication.
Sure, any of these could theoretically be faked by the official sources. But that is very unlikely. A wide-spread conspiracy is very unlikely to hold for long. Those sources are far more reliably true than a poster that dismisses 'Main Stream Media' and replaces it with their wild stories.
@@dontbetreadin4777 how is he suppose to survey the crime scene? How is he suppose to get witness accounts? How is he going to look at the Secret Service Cameras? How is he suppose to get their radio recordings?
Please tell me how a rando nobody on the internet is suppose to get the information without waiting for it to be released?
The mouth isn't even on the right way! 🤣
It's totally sideways like an anime character.
most people don't actually look at an image long enough to process things are wrong.
Thanks Ryan! I appreciate your efforts to dispel misinformation in this crazy time of social media “news”.
My own mother think this is staged, not only that, but the victims were "sacrificed".
We're cooked.
That's really unfortunate. Look for the interviews by Yuri Bezmenov aka Tomas Schuman, a KGB defector who warned of demoralization and its effects on people.
People believe what they Want to Believe. Not interested in the truth when it doesn't feed their hatred
😢
Give some arguments to explain why was staged or not?!
We know for a fact that there was no broken glass from the teleprompter. The numerous videos of the incident show the teleprompters are intact.
Even if it was glass from the teleprompter it wouldn't make a difference. It's still damage caused by the shooter in either case.
Thank you for making this video, we need people to keep us grounded here right now in America
The one thing that will be true about this is that trump is going to make $$$$ off of it.
Waiting for him to get Mike Tyson and the "Can You Hear Me Now" guy on stage with him at the convention or a future rally.
It's because of Mike Tyson that part of Trump's ear 👂 was missing 😲
And win the election
Yep, mugs, t-shirts, caps etc etc
Some probably but not enough.. also it may hurt him as his event security will be much more stringent (he talks a lot talk, doesn’t walk the walk. He can’t cuz of medical reasons he’s got bone spurs 😆) and probably even smaller than they have been. He and his team of whackadoos will still say there were 5-50x as many people at his events than there were but yea I imagine less rallies and more restrictive.
I sometimes think i could upload a video of me drinking a glass of water and people would say it was CGI or fake..or just say "it looks weird to me...."
"Why is it clear? That doesn't seem right..."
Yuri Bezmenov warned of this
@@speedy_fast Yep, he knew the game plan !
I also have a noncredible face, and I'm with you brother.
For god's sake, US politics are just insane
What about eurotics?
@@Intrusive_Thought176 they had some great singles in the 80s
@@youtubewatcher2 ?
@@Intrusive_Thought176 They still have some recent bops. Not as big as decades ago, but they are still going.
@@Ducaso ?
I don't care what anyone says: someone is responsible for lack of proper security at this venue. This was an extremely light security detail for an event with so many open long lines of sight. A roof less than 150 yards away not being staffed is unacceptable. I don't blame the security that was on the ground, but someone is responsible for not giving them enough resources and not planning this properly!
SS guy said they had people (i believe 3 was mentioned) at that Building but he had no clue where they were at the time !
There was a water tower 250 yards away the look like it was not secured either.
Honestly, as a private citizen, Trump shouldn't have any Secret Service details...
More than likely he was lacking in enough security usually they don't get as much funding for security until they are a nominee for whichever side and until then they have to rely on the small amount of Secret Service agents and the County Police for security at these huge events there's a RUclipsr called task and purpose that explains everything better from the whole process in a video he made the information he acquired from a retired officer that was on a presidential detail and he explained everything it's a very informative video
@@dominikvonlavante6113 He's still former president so, some level of security should be guaranteed. I don't like Trump but I will agree 100% that violence and hatred that fuels it has no place in politics - because then, things like this happen.
Thank God for Ryan McBeth clearing the air yet again on all the shenanigans going on. Truely, the journalist we need when it matters.
lmao
lol a terrible war journalist though
So few people acknowldge the murder victims in big events like this.
Very good on you Ryan to do this right from the git-go.
You demonstrate that expert knowledge and awareness on matters of warfighting does not take away from a man's humanity and compassion. I would argue that one can magnify the other. Those who hate the warfighter, those who lack understanding of what he does and why he does it will also never understand these things. Sadly, this is an accurate description of the vast majority of those who report the news (across the politial spectrum btw)
The people that said it was a hoax should be ashamed of themselves, in fact I noticed most deleted their tweets after the circulation of the person and those that did get hit and the person that lost their life
RIP
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is it no wonder if the case is considered a hoax when you take into account all the footage that immediately went viral, where you can see and hear how people are wondering why the authorities don't react even though reports about the shooter are continuously fed for more than five minutes. Literally a bunch of people pointing at the shooter on the roof and shouting to the police that there is a man with a rifle, and some others call 9-1-1, so hmmm..
@@JJOV00 so do you think it was staged or real?🤔
I don't think they should be ashamed, as it is a possibility. But they shouldn't be spreading it, which deleting those comments actually helps.
@@HankSemoreButz
So obviously I don't think it was staged, in the simplicity of that word, but whether someone, or some party, took advantage of the situation and played in it for their own pocket, it is very possible and would explain some course of the event, which, at least based on the current information, is very illogical in terms of reaction timelines.
"Normalcy bias" may partly explain the mainstream media's both-siderism.
One upon a time before the internet made echo chambers so easy to come by, that media “both-siderism” was a powerful force for keeping the American people understanding of one another. You at least heard some of the other party’s arguments, even if sometimes bent; and you were shown that they were human. You had too high a viewership from both sides to really sneer at either. Now it’s the reverse.
@@ronaldbell7429no. The media has not been “both sideism” if it had, this might not have happened in the first place.
@@ronaldbell7429Progressive arguments are disrespectful, racist, and dehumanizing
I do think that's true. No matter how bananas things get, it pretty much always boils down to the same partisan divides.
Both-Siderism is the worst and most damaging thing the U.S. media has ever invented.
Example: There is a topic, where 99 percent of all people agree on, but the U.S. media gives 50 percent of the coverage to the lonely 1 percent of the other side, regardless how wrong or crazy or stupid it is.
The nee of the U.S. media to always find someone from the other side made the U.S. media blind to the truth and work like an automatism.
As soon as I heard about this my brain started yelling "false flag!" even though from the earliest evidence it was obviously that it wasn't the case. It's so easy to be lazy and believe the narrative that aligns with what you already think. People on both ends of the political spectrum need to remind themselves that they're no better than the other side when it comes to this.
The question I have is, how did he even get up there and why was the roof empty? Surely it would have been an ideal spot to have special service or swat posted to keep an eye on things. As it seems to have had good sight lines.
The interviews with bystanders right afterward reminds me of the JFK incident. People said they thought it was fireworks, and back then people thought it was firecrackers
theres also the russians, and a guy called emil cosman doing mental gymnastics and making russia a victim in this...
The Chinese are definitely a victim of this assassination attempt on Trump > New York Post reported it as a "Chinese"
Im avoiding the news til Monday precisely for this reason. Just gonna play my records...
I'd suggest avoiding it for far longer. There's hundreds of hours of cat and dog videos on RUclips.
Wise choice. Political discourse is insane right now.
Unless Black Sabbath Vol. 4 is one of said records - you're doing yourself a great injustice.
@@Darius-uj1gvI have all their albums through "Born Again". Good lookin' out, though.
I'm avoiding it altogether now after this comment. Honestly doesn't matter to me much.
My favorite was "trump falls during his speech" by CNN and "trump gets scared by loud noises" by USA today. mainstream media does plenty of misinformation and forming a subjective narrative
If this was indeed a "lone wolf" - then the MSM is directly responsible for this due to their rhetoric and narrative creation.
No. Saw accurate headlines from both those sources within minutes of the event.
both of which are true
These are fake headlines, which never existed, which you ironically fell for
No. Those were not fake headlines. They were, however, relatively new to the event as it happened.
Thank you. I went into all this thinking, "Nobody deserves to get shot at, yet, I wouldn't put it past Trump to stage this." Showing my bias in this matter. Making me easily swayed by the "plausible logic" that some conspiracy theories promote. I will wait until more facts are unearthed.
The KGB playbook
Your willingness to acknowledge your bias and wait to form an opinion until you have more information says a lot about your intelligence level. It would be nice if more people had that level of self-control.
Dude most of them were recording it on their phone so of course they weren't scared. Cameraman never dies ya know
Well, except in the film Civil War...
@@spvillanoor that one diving video.
Two words. Alec Baldwin.
@@mbyerly9680 was the cameras actually recording during the incident, cause i thought they were stopped at the time, but I don't remember and can't seem to find info on the specific detail
@@mbyerly9680 shhhh xD
Thanks for your great work, as usual Mr. McBeth.Bringing truth.
Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦✊🇬🇧🏴
It never cease to amaze me how people will say the dumbest things. I'm no fan of Trump, but this is a tragedy.
Liars are going to lie
That’s how I feel about MSM now
I can not believe this happened. We need peace and unity in this country.
you cant believe it? i mean.... have you been under a rock for the last 8 years?
@@C0mmanderX calm down.
Exactly both sides have been priming their followers and spreading divisive rhetoric. This was bound to happen. There will probably more crazy stuff to come unfortunately@@C0mmanderX
We’ve got to reach out to our neighbors that have different politics and let them know we’re glad they’re safe ❤
@@lrmry Good luck with that, their hate is too strong to overcome thanks to all the media gaslighting.
I listened to a podcast lately with the female Google worker who was caught up in the hotel while the terror attack happened by
al-Shabaab in Nairobi
And she was explaining what she thought and how she reacted while she'd seen a guy get blown up and body pieces were lying around.
She said she just couldn't calculate the severity of the situation because she never experienced any violence of any sort in her life.
Humans are strange creatures and we can't say that if someone doesn't act like we THINK we would,
It's wrong.
Wow. Talk about disinformation.
Yeah just like you.
The fact that CNN said Trump "fell" AND Forbes said it was a "incident"
There's nothing wrong with this
CTV news in Canada said he was "rushed off stage due to loud noises"
and...
@@therealdonaldtrump4528 You're evil
Was it a live feed? Perhaps they weren't entirely aware of what was going on?
Have a great time in Oz Ryan!Looking forward to *Dropbears: misinformation or lethal threat*
How dare you even suggest our dropbear warnings are misinformation! 😱 I don't want Ryan to end up as dropbear dinner cos he thought they weren't real.
We have a tree called a ghost gum, it sheds lbs that a 2 foot diameter randomly 10 years ago one killed a teacher and 2 kids. Theory is they are yowies a monster that eats kids to warn little ones to avoid places where those trees grow.
It's just a warning to always beware of what's above you not just snakes, spiders, Crocs, etc. We Ozzies look at th3 ground a lot when we walk.
Thank you for putting this up. I honestly thought it would be more conservative slanted disinformation. As someone that is in the conservative camp (I used to think my social policies were liberal while fiscally conservative.) I have become more and more wary of social media and especially if it is something I want to hear. (This makes me great fun at parties.) So please keep the facts coming. I can take it. I might need a drink after hearing it, but I should hear it.
What I am thankful for is that this was not more damaging. While people were harmed and traumatized, it could have been worse. The hate that has been purposely created by political parties makes me so sad and fearful for my fellow countrymen. I am beyond embarrassment and now just wishing we can reclaim some semblance of humanity in our political and social lives.
I don't care what your personal beliefs are, I wish peace for everyone.
There's PLENTY of conservative -slanted disinformation. Ryan didn't touch on it, apparently. But I hope he covers all of it fairly.
Well said. But the Trumpet creates division and controversy wherever he goes.
@linmal2242 no, the media make the division.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 by amplifying Trump's hate speech.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 All they do is report on the information and maybe draw some conclusions from it. If you have a problem with that then it means you should have a problem with the guy they're reporting on.
That AI photo clearly looks fake as hell
Not really. It had me fooled at a glance. Remember, not everyone is tech savvy and has the time and wherewithal to scrutinize all the information from a chaotic event like this.
Nah took a quick glance at it bc I was listening to this while driving it looks unnatural and forced kinda like those Snapchat filters you can see the editing mistakes like his neck looks like there’s extra muscles and skin and plus there is only half the amount of blood there was from the live video
@googleuser2668 fair enough ig. But many more people will fall for it, unfortunately.
Did the Secret Service yell Donald Duck!
?
I'm all for Trump - but that was funny, lol
One of the recurring ones I've seen on conservative pages is conspiracy that the Secret Service waited purposefully long enough for this to happen, citing the video of the 2 snipers behind the President, searching for a target - emphasis on searching. A quick look at videos of the team's placement and the location of the body, referenced against Maps overhead... it looks like they had a tree between them and the shooter.
Also, their response to the shots. They pulled back initially. Anecdotal, but I'll persist... I was working a multi-building fire not long ago, just north of you, actually. A sizeable explosion went off. Those of us facing it did not flinch or turn away. We saw the threat and continued to engage. Most of those who were not engaged or had eyes on flinched or ducked. My thought is, as highly trained as they are, if those guys had eyes on the target and were ready to go, their reaction would have been minimal with immediate return. Moral: they didn't see him. They were blocked. Certain, no. What I'm thinking, yup. Watching the misinformation on this one is nauseating. Keep up the good work, brother.
Sounds reasonable that the snipers view could have been blocked and that's why they didn't spot him on the roof and engage him before he fired. But what about spotters on the ground and inside the crowd. There are always agents in the crowd. Why didn't any of them see him when numerous people in the crowd did?
Also... I have 3 simple pics that show the potentially obstructed view. Not sure how to send them to you, although they're not complex or hard to figure for yourself when you take a second to look for it. I've seen Cappy and Mike Glover commenting on this, too. If I'm right, I hope the info gets out there for the sake of those agents on the roof.
It is too early to rule out any possibility...but objectively speaking (and discarding statements that some people noticed the presence of the shooter and reported him) the initial response of the secret service seems unusually slow and in the middle of a shooting, allowing the "white" standing on stage to take photos sounds pretty strange
I wrote a response and it went away so I apologize if it reappears making this redundant.
A few things: I think they did respond. The Secret Service is the lead but only one apart of the security detail which relies on other agencies. People were yelling they saw the shooter. Times were stated up to 3-4 minutes prior... remember perspective of time is skewed greatly is a situation like this. I'd imagine the shooter approached quickly, accessed quickly, and was planned. Heck, it took me 5 minutes to use Google Maps to research the site, compared vantage points, and make up a diagram to solidify my hypothesis give a few pictures.
Next, it is my understanding that law enforcement responded, climbed the ladder, the shooter turned his gun toward the cop, he ducked back down the ladder, the shooting started. This would be backed up in my mind by the fact that both snipers were actively searching on that side prior to the shots but, again, couldn't see him. The quick response after showed they were close and engaged in searching out the situation. When it escalated, the ultimate response and attention were drawn, ending it fast.
How long before someone claims the shots came from the grassy knoll?
Thank you for providing non-biased reporting on these events Ryan!
The most based "disinformation" take I've seen is that Trump doesn't even exist.
Sounds like , there are alot of stupid people if believed staged.
Well those very people ARE Trump's core supporters so...
@@Reno_Slim "Again, MAGA shows how crazy they are willing to kill millions for their greatest con" doesn't sound like a core Trump supporter
@@Reno_SlimWrong Troll
@@Reno_Slim🤣🤣🤣 there are other ways of letting us know you voted for Biden brother. No need to make it anymore difficult than it already was. 😂
@@Reno_Slimare you restarted?
What a day it’s been! Thanks Ryan you are a lighthouse in a sea of BS.
there is zero way you watched this in 37 seconds..
faker watcher..
@@dertythegrower wtf are u on about kid? go outside
Thank you for spreading truth as a fellow American I respect you
I like your comments about the normalcy bias, and people not being able to believe what is happening. I'd also just add that there is the issue of people freezing when they are in danger, it's part of the whole fight flight response... some people do freeze.
The USSS director flat out admitted it was a catastrophic failure that day. Disinformation or not, they knew well before it happened, that there was a threat and did not remove the asset.
Some FBI dude calling his CIA buddy: Holy shit couldn't you even get a guy that has shot a gun before ?
I was in a flea market with my family when somebody fired shots at the entrance to the event, I thought it was somebody dropping their bag then a crowd of people started rushing through the doorways, so I thought somebody mistook it for a gun and started panicking but my dad immediately recognized the sound and rushed me and my family out
I trust Ryan way more than the news and way more than my government. I was excited to get his take on this.
it's pretty standard to try and get around weird social media filters, I do it every day. it's a struggle, and not necessarily a sign that you're affiliated with some group targeting accurate information online.
To all the people saying he was a registered Republican, thousands of people do this to vote AGAINST Trump in the primary. It does not mean he is a Republican. I’m still registered as a dem for the same reason.
He didn’t vote. He was registered online but he was too young to vote four years ago at 16. He did however give a donation to a progressive organization a year ago. His parents affiliation is liberal. However, he followed a popular pro gun RUclips channel online.ie: his t-shirt he was wearing was from their channel.
Unfortunately because young people are becoming so antisocial they cannot fully assess what is actually happening in reality around them and are quick to fall for bias without understanding where that bias or even agenda is coming from.
@@virtuitousvampire9371there was a primary this year..
@@virtuitousvampire9371 his parents affiliation is completely irrelevant. got some desperate reaching going on there.
He registered Republican in 2021 (when he turned 18).
I today told my older co worker in his 50s who just reads headlines and never the article “Okay you’re too old for the internet, you’re getting tricked too easily into believing fake news and sensationalized news.”
An intelligent American.... telling the truth... and doing good in the world.... unusual!.. 😀👍
He just said it could have been teleprompter glass... The irony..
lot of bots.. hmm
Ryan - Question: Is the percentage of bot spreader accounts a reasonable representation of the percentage of fake accounts that received the disinformation?
That's a very good question. I wonder is it like those investment comment bots that having entire conversations with themselves? How effective are bots, ultimately
@@stirfrywok2927 I suspect that bots which can answer are set to only answer a set maximum number of times. Just enough to get more eyes on the comment and not much more than that. The more they answer, the less believable they are. This would naturally allow bots to talk with bots, but only in very short conversations which ultimately benefit the message attempting to be transmitted.
This is my suspicion based on what I have seen, I am also not entirely sure I am correct or that responding bots are anywhere near common.
Trump... not president Trump.... just Trump
It's not so improbable that this was just a scene
Ppl no longer react to violence they are too busy on their phones to care about self preservation.
That sounded like a twenty two survival rifle😮😢
You're the best! We need you! Regards from Sweden 🇸🇪
So glad you are doing a good job filtering out the fake profiles and helping regular people understand what happened.
anyone who claims this is fake or stage should be ashamed of themselves
So if democrats say it’s fake they should be ashamed but trump and the republicans can call everything fake and that’s fine
Glass from a teleprompter?! I hope I never see this channel again.
When questioned about why there were no secret service agents on the roof, the director of the secret service stated that it would be a waste of resources for the secret service and the CIA to be on the same roof.
But it was FBI not CIA
Thank you for getting some quick info out on this. Better than the "news" stations that just read stories
I'm more concerned about Republican Congressmen blaming Biden and the Dems for this.
That is very reckless.
Many people are going to try to turn this into a politically convenient conspiracy. A social isolated young man shot at the president of the US, probably to try and get famous. This has happened many times before, like with William McKinley.
they compared him Hitler for years something like this was going to happen
It’s their rhetoric they have been spewing about Trump being “Hitlar” mainstream news calling him every name in order to incite hate.
Mathew Crooks saved democracy , Thank you MSNBC
but they ARE ,, partly ,, they do run the country for now,,
Hows a 20 year old dressed in fatigues carrying an AR15 walk 7/10ths of a mile from where he parked his van and nobody notices.
By foot ;o)
The on-site security must be completely incompetent.
People probably thought he was part of the security.
He wasn’t in camo. Jeans and a grey t-shirt. The t-shirt however was from a popular pro gun RUclips channel.
In amongst dozens of people wearing fatigues and carrying M16 rifles?
Interviews with people in the crowd claim that they were notifying authorities for 3-15 mins before shots were fired....
Hi Ryan. First off thank you sir for the information you pour into these videos. I have lived in butler PA my whole life 25 years. I was at the rally standing 10 rows back to the left of the stage facing Trump. (Near the red combine tractor). I can attest to the normalcy bias as most people near us did not even duck initially when the shots were fired either out of shock or simple ignorance to the muffled popping sound an AR15 makes when fired from that distance. Many veterans/LEO types around me were screaming at people to get down and those of us that recognized the gunfire for what it was were quick to hit the ground. Now as far as everyone standing, when DJT stood up there were cries of shooter down going on all around the crowd which I think is what kept full panic from breaking out. Everyone was still terrified (especially of a possible second shooter on exit) but thankfully everyone was able to get off the x safely. God bless sir and keep up the great work!
Good reporting Ryan.
It took us a while to find out that John Hinkley had an unhealthy Jodi Foster obsession after watching Taxi Driver. Who saw that one coming as the motive of an assasin?
We have to find a better way to not HATE each other so easily.
Excellent Presentation. What I have always expected from you.
Thanks Mr. McBeth. I have no love for MAGA but facts matter.
Yup..all bad things with that MAGA business...
@hansgrueber8169 that's CNN and the view talking through you
@@UndiagnosedGenXer lol, forgive me...I didn't convey my sarcasm properly 🤣😬🤣😬🤣🤣😬🤣😬
@@hansgrueber8169 they all think they are innocent and never do anything wrong. but 2020, and 2021 prove different.
Bystander syndrome
Ryan this is a treasure trove and i cant wait to see what you put out. Truly the most turstworthy reporter online 🙌
Honestly, I think "normalcy bias" explains a ton of politics the past few years.
I agree with what you said, but I'm not as inclined to dismiss "staged" claims out of hand. I doubt it was staged but some unanswered questions remain, for myself.
Here's the main one: Before Secret Service got Trump off the stage, they can be heard communicating that "the shooter" is down. Now, apparently the public spotted the shooter before SS/LE. That is to say, the Secret Service didn't know shooter was on that rooftop, despite all the security planning and measures they HAD taken. Yet, both Trump and the SS detail behaved as if they didn't believe another shooter was even a possibility. A fist pump or two to show he's not gone is understandable...but he kept going to the point of striking poses. The Secret Service completely opened their protective ring for the campaign pic. This doesn't make sense, to me. If the shooter was there through a failure of security, why did they all believe there were no others? There was not
time to confirm the venue was secure before getting into SUV.
They didn't open the ring, at least not for the photo. The problem was the female agent towards the TV camera was simply too short to cover him, and the iconic low angle photo of him with the flag in the background was when they were climbing down the stairs, so the agent in front had to go down first, opening Trump from that angle. In that direction, though, was the vehicle plus a dozen USSS Counterassault officers and PA State Troopers, so there wasn't a huge risk from that angle.
@@snekysnek8068 It kinda looked like he was trying to jump out of the cover... Idk, seems like an attempt to rile up the crowd
The teleprompter remained undamaged through the whole series of events.
I love this short. No nonsense breakdown of where you're seeing misinformation. Props to you
A lot of people blamed SS, a lot of people blamed the officer who engaged the shooter before he fired on President Trump, and a lot of people are calling this staged. For one, from the looks of things, there might have been a failure or lapse of judgement in the process of securing the area. That building should have either been occupied by security (probably local PD or SS) or access should have been denied to that area. However, this potential lapse of judgement should not diminish the brave efforts of the law enforcement on scene during this incident. They engaged the shooter, protected Mr. Trump, and did not run, they stood their ground and acted with discipline and professionalism. SS tactical officers actually surveyed for threats elsewhere which shows just how disciplined these guys are; instead of getting tunnel vision in the area where the shots came from, they scanned for threats all around Mr. Trump. And for those blaming the police officer who allegedly investigated the shooter, after being flagged down by attendees, are idiots. The officer seemingly climbed the ladder and was met by the suspect aiming his rifle at the officer. The officer then reportedly retreated to cover and, likely, went to call it in when the shooter took those shots. If this is to be believed and this chain of events did occur it seems highly unlikely that the officer could be at fault as his reaction seems totally justified. And for those calling this staged… who staged it? Trump’s campaign?? As if they’d risk killing the president and that information going public. And Trump clearly had no idea that was going to happen. Yall forget the fact that him turning his head saved him, and no marksman is to be trusted to make a shot so precise as to barely miss that way. This was NOT staged.
ALL former Presidents are called "President" by the way. Its a title for life, like Doctor or Professor.
our Uncle talking us through the tribulations of our day. love it.
Excellent review. Thank you for being the critical voice in this matter.