Homeworld - The Homeworld War Part 2, The Garden

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
  • Taiidani fortifications force the Kushans into passing through a nebula that contains a people who worship it as a garden. Hilarious Hyperspace Hijinks ensue between the two races as the Kushan Fleet continues their journey.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:29 An Alternate Route
    03:41 The Garden
    05:42 No One Withdraws
    08:07 Groundhog Day
    10:06 Battle of The Second Khar-Toba
    11:59 History of the Kadeshi
    14:25 Emerging from the Garden
    14:53 Credits
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Комментарии • 109

  • @Falkirion
    @Falkirion Год назад +49

    I still remember finishing the final mission in the Garden, feeling triumphant and then this story point gets thrown at you.
    And all that elation and pride you had in guiding the exiles through the nebula just evaporates as you realize you've basically just committed genocide against your wayward brothers and sisters.
    Brilliantly told mate, can't wait for the rest of the series

  • @tba113
    @tba113 Год назад +16

    The last stand of the Kadeshi always seemed especially sad, like their final mothership limped back home for sanctuary, and then in despair didn't resist when my fleet followed it to finish the job.
    Of course, it's not like the Hiigarans didn't make every effort to solve the conflict nonviolently, even before they determined that they and the Kadeshi were related and had a common enemy. And the Kadeshi could have left or turned off their hyperspace inhibitors at any time, so I'm not all that broken up about it. The Kadeshi's making every first-contact situation an immediate fight to the death is ultimately a case of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

    • @Beuwen_The_Dragon
      @Beuwen_The_Dragon 10 месяцев назад +1

      It isn’t really so one sided, both the Kushan and Kadeshi had valid reasons to stay their courses.
      The Kushan wanting to reclaim their homeworld and believing their technology and tactics could defeat the Taiidan.
      The Kadeshi meanwhile still remembered legends of the Taiidan daemons destroying their people and banishing them to a life hidden in the Nebula. From their perspective the Taiidan were too powerful, and would learn of the Kadeshi if the Kushan were allowed to leave..
      It really is a tragic situation for both parties..

    • @guragat2
      @guragat2 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Beuwen_The_DragonTaiidan "Daemons"...?
      "THE KHARAKID HAVE BROUGHT HERESY UPON OUR LANDS."
      "THERE WILL BE NO SHELTER FOR THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE -IMPERIUM- GARDENS OF KADESH."
      "ABANDON SAJUUK, KNOW ONLY WAR"

  • @BurningEarthProductions
    @BurningEarthProductions Год назад +71

    Holy hell, dude. Every new video you make just gets more and more visually stunning.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +3

      I'll say.

    • @MacsLore
      @MacsLore  Год назад +15

      Surprisingly, it turned out out that my experience in photographing people translated really well to do doing spaceship scenes. There really is a lot more overlap in skills then I would've thought.

    • @seed001
      @seed001 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@MacsLorewhen are you releasing new videos?

  • @Tempestus88
    @Tempestus88 Год назад +9

    "Remember, there are many space games out there. But only one has the Gardens of Kadesh" -MandaloreGaming
    Great video as alway :)

  • @tba113
    @tba113 Год назад +14

    12:23 Hey, I recognize that transport design!
    Listening to what happens when a cruise missile full of Beast nanites hits a boatload of defenseless civilians is one of the most horrifying experiences I've ever had from a game.

    • @realkirt
      @realkirt Год назад +4

      Would you believe I am trying to write a star trek crossover! I feel even the Borg would be afraid of the beast!

    • @judet2992
      @judet2992 Год назад +2

      Yep. That was nuts.

    • @judet2992
      @judet2992 Год назад +2

      @@realkirtyeahhhhhhh…a biomechanical virus version of the borg…unngghh

  • @Chounubis
    @Chounubis Год назад +14

    Please do NOT stop making these... Amazing lore series, and one of the very few (and the very best one, at that) on "Homeworld"

  • @connorohlander6683
    @connorohlander6683 Год назад +27

    Thank you for bringing homeworld to life.

  • @sasquach18
    @sasquach18 Год назад +23

    Excellent work as always Mac. As a longtime Homeworld enjoyer I appreciate your ability to bring these events to life.

  • @leandro3710
    @leandro3710 Год назад +29

    Insane storytelling, thanks for this!

  • @ardoronro6677
    @ardoronro6677 Год назад +9

    I love that this video feels like an old History Channel documentary.

  • @MacsLore
    @MacsLore  Год назад +6

    Hey Kids, dont forget Homeworld 3 can be pre-ordered on their Steam page: store.steampowered.com/app/1840080/Homeworld_3/ . While I'm guessing most (if not all) of you know about it already, it can't hurt to have a link to it here.
    Also:
    Homeworld Revelations - www.modiphius.net/products/homeworld-core-rulebook

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +2

      Pass. Even if the game is great, one's better off waiting for a so called GotY/Definitive Edition so to get the best of things.
      Plus, pre-orders are a bane if one played the likes of Fallout: New Vegas, Chrono Trigger, and Batman: Arkham Knight during launch... don't worry, they're now polished, which makes me feel irate with the recent complaints on specific bad PC port launches.

  • @terryalberts5892
    @terryalberts5892 Год назад +6

    I think it funny people still fight over witch homeworld Original or remastered line reads they like better. Like pronunciation from the same voice actors. It just shows how much passion the fan base still has for this game. Love your videos!

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +2

      Funny, maybe, but justification is all too common.
      Still, at least the divisiveness isn't as bad as OG Resident Evil 3 vs. Resident Evil 3 "Reimagining".

    • @judet2992
      @judet2992 Год назад +2

      I see your nerd argument, and raise you a “Bring Sajuuk to bear! Bring Sajuuk to bear! Bring Sajuuk to bear!”
      And “This is the Kith Somtaaw warship Kuun-Lan!”

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +1

      @@judet2992 I vote the latter. Never gets old compared to the increasingly narmy former.

    • @judet2992
      @judet2992 Год назад +2

      @@michaelandreipalon359 Yep!

  • @riesstiu2khunning
    @riesstiu2khunning Год назад +3

    Everyone stubbornly miss the fact there's another ship wreck next to the Kadesh prison ship (both in classic and remastered version) -- an ancient Hiigaran Carrier, like the ones seen in Karos Graveyard. Perhaps the prison ships picked up a signal from a surviving Hiigaran vessel, hiding in the Great Nebula since their navy's dismentalment. But only the Kadesh ancestors decided to answer the call. Perhaps there was a heated debate between the ships' captains over whether they're being watched and it's safe to stray off-course.
    If it was the first ship they've attempted to construct, but failed due to lacking proper blueprints, they'd take it apart for resources. Instead it remains right next to their Khar-Toba, like a revered relic.

  • @icehockeylover189
    @icehockeylover189 8 месяцев назад +1

    I remember getting Homeworld the very day it launched. I found out about it just by happen stance. I was browsing the web and it popped up in an advertisement and I was all about space, sci-fi strategy games. I checked out their website to see what it was all about and I was completely sold. I packed up and immediately headed to Best Buy. The most compelling part about it, was the story and the lore. I would've been ok with just a mindless, surface level story, with the gameplay being as good as it was but getting an amazing story along with it, was fantastic. The band Yes! also wrote a song specifically for the game which I thought was pretty cool. I ended up buying their album too which is actually pretty good. I had never heard of them before hearing their "Homeworld" song. Great times, great memories playing that game...I really appreciate you putting together these lore videos. I think the Homeworld franchise doesn't get nearly enough attention.

  • @KaraValmeyjar
    @KaraValmeyjar Год назад +10

    Always a good day when Mac gives us a new video! Excellent work, Mac! Thanks for another fun lore dive!

  • @PraetorPaktu
    @PraetorPaktu Год назад +4

    Love this.

  • @Nokard
    @Nokard 9 месяцев назад +1

    One of my favorite parts of the story, the Garden of Kadesh, I was really freaking terrified the first time I heard the envoy, amazing storytelling, thank you!

  • @Rukasu.2603
    @Rukasu.2603 Год назад +2

    I remember my first time playing Homeworld and seeing those massive forces of Swarmers. I was so panicked and I have lost many times 😅 and even when I managed to win, The Cathedral of Kadesh makes me cry from another lose.
    But now when I see those Swarmers coming to Mothership I say: "Ahh s**t! Here we go again" XD
    The story of Kadeshi is actually sad when we learned that they were from Hiigaran people. Kill our brothers and sisters to reach a Hiigara, to regain our Homeworld and Kadeshi were so stubborn that they preferred to die in order to protect their Garden.
    Amazing video and I can't wait for another part. Thank you 😉

  • @Doney898
    @Doney898 Год назад +2

    God I love this channel. Can’t wait for you to decipher the mess that is homeworld 2

  • @alandrew4202
    @alandrew4202 Год назад +3

    I found your channel a few days ago. Watched every Homeworld video. And now here's a new one! Thank you!

  • @TheAngriestGamer.
    @TheAngriestGamer. Год назад +2

    in hindsight.. looking at the map and the strange nebula that was totally devoid of all enemy presence and fortifications despite the fact that it looks like a SUPER obvious flanking route on paper, yet the enemy didnt bother to defend what looks like an obvious flank/way through their defense, and everyone seemingly avoided it...
    This Probably should of been a pretty telling clue as to what was about to happen when you try to go through it.

  • @BlackOmega9
    @BlackOmega9 2 месяца назад

    The Kadeshi also had the frightening multibeam frigate. Four full powered ion cannons, equivalent to the firepower of a heavy cruiser. Even with the swarmers all over, those things are a priority target, or your warships will be cut to pieces. Also this is where the Kushans brought out the multigun corvette. Bring a gang of those to the field, and anything short of Frigate weight will be made to go away rather permanently.

  • @Hippy576
    @Hippy576 Год назад +4

    Anytime I see an upload from you I get extremely excited. You cover all the niche stuff. Wing Commander, Crimson Skies, Homeworld, etc. It is always a better day. Thank you so much

  • @rorymcclernon4674
    @rorymcclernon4674 9 месяцев назад +1

    My man, this Homeworld series is fantastic. I just found it and binged the whole thing. Gimme MORE!!!
    Please.

  • @Karma_Kay
    @Karma_Kay 10 месяцев назад +1

    I just discovered your channel and I LOVE your videos. I've been playing Homeworld since 1999 and I still play several times a years.

  • @padawanmage71
    @padawanmage71 Месяц назад

    Love these videos and can tell you put a lot of work into them.
    This mission really hit hard as it seemed the Kadeshii were exterminated in a genocide by their own lost brothers and sisters.
    I still, to this day, don’t quite believe they were all killed but some may have stolen away, ready to rebuild….or perhaps there was a larger craft (battle station?) that was too far away to assist during this incursion.

  • @goldenguardian8753
    @goldenguardian8753 Год назад +2

    Ah yes, love these missions, so many salvages done

  • @neurolancer81
    @neurolancer81 10 месяцев назад

    I am hooked! With Homeworld 3 gameplay slowing trickling out, I’m excited for the next one, whenever that is.

  • @Irobert1115HD
    @Irobert1115HD Месяц назад

    honestly i wouldnt be suprised if the kadeshi actually ended up following the mothership after they realised that the mothership had the bite needed to actually win.

  • @hoopyfrood7887
    @hoopyfrood7887 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love your videos, you're doing a really great job translating the story and your visuals really bring a lot to your retelling.

  • @neishark1735
    @neishark1735 Год назад +1

    Man this was amazing ! You've outdone yourself.

  • @alfredaflatooni
    @alfredaflatooni Год назад +3

    Amazing work, highly impressed!

  • @Yingyanglord1
    @Yingyanglord1 Год назад +1

    As always a Treat that upon seeing I had to Imediatly watch and consume. the visuals alone stunning and it braught my mind back to those times.

  • @cuddlebuff
    @cuddlebuff Год назад

    Thank You. Wonderful work.

  • @robertmind9650
    @robertmind9650 Год назад +1

    I’ve been waiting for this, and it was worth it!

  • @MrKing-nn6sb
    @MrKing-nn6sb 8 месяцев назад

    Glad I stumbled onto your channel loving the content
    !

  • @Cringelord_Actual
    @Cringelord_Actual Год назад +3

    amazing work this series deserves more views.

  • @marcosguedes8885
    @marcosguedes8885 Год назад +2

    Awesome video 🎉

  • @realkirt
    @realkirt Год назад +1

    I love the lore breakdown your doing cant wait for the next episode!

  • @xnow13
    @xnow13 10 месяцев назад

    Amazing story telling Mac, I can't wait for the next part!

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for making this lore video!!

  • @HumbleFoxGaming
    @HumbleFoxGaming 10 месяцев назад

    Bro you video is beyond words. I love it. Keep making them

  • @treebranch7959
    @treebranch7959 7 месяцев назад

    I absolutely love these videos. I hope Mac makes more when Homeworld 3 releases

  • @warhawk4494
    @warhawk4494 11 месяцев назад

    Very good video man. Great work as always.

    • @MacsLore
      @MacsLore  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks, it's an effort to do this kind of thing, but the results are more then worth it.

  • @BladeValant546
    @BladeValant546 Год назад +2

    Amazing!

  • @srwb7298
    @srwb7298 Год назад +1

    ive been waiting for this

  • @judet2992
    @judet2992 Год назад +2

    Amazing. Even better than the first one.

  • @Nudelllsuppe
    @Nudelllsuppe 10 месяцев назад

    This is awesome, played HW1 as a kid and never got the story, it seems ive missed a masterpiece. Great video cant wait for Part 3👍🏻

  • @charlesballiet7074
    @charlesballiet7074 Год назад +1

    love the artwork

  • @N30-JLI
    @N30-JLI Год назад +1

    Beautiful & epic 👌😁

  • @SEMPERPERFIDUS
    @SEMPERPERFIDUS Год назад

    The Garden of Kadesh was probably the most spiritual and spinetingling Homeworld chapter for me.

  • @greggs_sausageroll1608
    @greggs_sausageroll1608 11 месяцев назад

    Excellent video

  • @ShahjahanMasood
    @ShahjahanMasood 11 месяцев назад

    I have all of your Homeworld videos downloaded for long journeys. The production quality rivals that of major studios and the narration is also really high quality.

  • @NOLMAD6
    @NOLMAD6 Год назад +1

    Again mac, you story telling is on par sir. Well done with another vid

  • @herpderp9774
    @herpderp9774 Год назад +1

    Beautiful work, this was legitimately one of the most impactful episodes in the game and I remember the first time playing through a HUGE amount of relief after finally leaving the garden and its murderous swarms behind.
    I sure had no idea what I was about to get into next though lol!

    • @MacsLore
      @MacsLore  Год назад +2

      No kidding about being relieved when we finally got to leave "The Garden".

  • @selmevias1383
    @selmevias1383 Год назад +1

    This is only getting better and better, I'm using your videos to explain the lore of obscure franchise to my normie friends.

  • @cropathfinder
    @cropathfinder Год назад

    new sven van der plank battletech lore videos, murder drones, BPLs hunchback and this all dropping days apart is doing wonders to my mental health

  • @KlaxontheImpailr
    @KlaxontheImpailr 10 месяцев назад

    Prepare for emergency hyperspace jump, I hear banjos!

  • @Vashkur
    @Vashkur Год назад +1

    Epic!

  • @CoolSs
    @CoolSs Год назад

    The visuals 👌💯

  • @gorvarhadgarson5227
    @gorvarhadgarson5227 Год назад +1

    Homeworld was such a journey...god that game was awesome

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +1

    This should at least slake the thirst for more Homeworld, what with another karking HW3 delay.
    The description text on the Pod is so relatable. Rare to hear a first-timer easily beat the Garden missions, that's for sure.
    Well, may HW3 give us a surprising return of Kadeshi remnants, if not a Garden-esque showdown.

    • @MacsLore
      @MacsLore  Год назад +1

      I was wondering if someone would notice what I wrote there. But then again at this point, I shouldn't be surprised when I add these little easter-egg bits lol.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад

      @@MacsLore Believe me, am always looking for blink-and-you'll-miss-its when it comes to vids, shows, and movies (the Spider-Verse films are a huge example) nowadays.

  • @gabrielnguyen5580
    @gabrielnguyen5580 Год назад +1

    peak content and editing

  • @KlaxontheImpailr
    @KlaxontheImpailr 10 месяцев назад

    More Homeworld lore please! 🎉❤

  • @Overlord3445
    @Overlord3445 Год назад

    very nice

  • @ajaxmcjones9387
    @ajaxmcjones9387 Год назад +1

    Just found this channel and I'm blown away by this sci fi video game lore! Please cover the X-series someday!

  • @aaronsouthard8366
    @aaronsouthard8366 7 месяцев назад

    13 generations isnt that long a time. 3 or 4 generations in a century puts them at "gardening" for 433.33 to 325 years. Considering that unlike their Kitthid brothers who completed the exile journey they never lost their technological capability and remained space fairing before their brothers feet even touched the sands of karak...3 millenia ago.
    This is where I have a breakdown in lore and I would love to see the, for all intents, Kiith Kadesh expanded upon say by higara sending an expedition to reclaim and protect the lost Kiith. All of them could not have died on the needleships. There had to have been a shipyard

  • @MausTanker
    @MausTanker 3 месяца назад

    There's no way the Kadeshi were fully destroyed.
    There has to be something, somewhere big enough to mfg those mothership sized needles they enjoy so much.

  • @PaganPilot
    @PaganPilot Год назад +1

    Always awesome to see improvements in your videos. It is sad, tragedy and fitting fate of the Kedeshi, though is the Homeworld rpg canon? If so it does mean some survived both joining with their kushan brethren and some other staying within the nebula.

  • @mazack00
    @mazack00 Год назад +2

    I hate how the ambassador ship is armed in the remaster, also a lot of the nuance in the voice acting is lost in the new version.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +1

      At least the Collection has the original version, although the loss of "that song" is mournful... why must licensing hell be a thing?

  • @BarcelPL
    @BarcelPL Год назад +1

    Amazing work, just a pity that you didn't use the remastered ship models.

  • @supershadow102007
    @supershadow102007 7 месяцев назад

    still sad that they refuse to join the exiles to find there lost home together and had to die for no reason

  • @SophiaAphrodite
    @SophiaAphrodite 7 месяцев назад

    When you consider the history of your own people you are not really the good guys. You are part of a long arcing history of war and revenge. You are cheated, then use the space core for revenge to destroy many worlds of the enemy. Then you give up that core and are nearly wiped out as a revenge for your revenge. You now seek revenge for the revenge on the revenge.

  • @mortallychallenged
    @mortallychallenged Год назад +1

    Incredible work with the models! Where did you get some of that wonderful art like at 10:42?

    • @MacsLore
      @MacsLore  Год назад +3

      That would be from the Homeworld Revelations Tabletop RPG Corebook by Modiphius. It's got a whole bunch of different Homeworld illustrations to aid in the lore and rulesets it describes.

  • @Dwarf_Lord_Thoden
    @Dwarf_Lord_Thoden 10 месяцев назад

    Hey Mac, are you planning on continuing this series? I'm really enjoying it.

  • @TurKlack
    @TurKlack 6 месяцев назад

    I still hope some of the Kadeshi are still alive and kicking.

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
    @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Homeworld series of games was discontinued too soon.

  • @Brendan1259
    @Brendan1259 Год назад +1

    When you finnish the entire set of homeworld story videos you need to make a complete story video showcasing all your video making talent.

  • @45580677
    @45580677 11 месяцев назад

    More please

  • @HumbleFoxGaming
    @HumbleFoxGaming 10 месяцев назад

    Please take a look at nexus the jupiter incident. I really loved that game along with homeworld. Would love to see a video of nexus

  • @UpcycleShoesKai
    @UpcycleShoesKai 7 месяцев назад

    Gut....Punch

  • @fourthofjulygaming3795
    @fourthofjulygaming3795 Год назад

    There is no withdraw from the garden.

  • @LordTelperion
    @LordTelperion Год назад +1

    :D

  • @fjkladsj3424
    @fjkladsj3424 11 месяцев назад

    Love your HW stuff! Please don't make any references to other games (mk, duke). It breaks immersion. Ty

  • @creatorsfreedom6734
    @creatorsfreedom6734 Год назад +1

    low poly graphic's

  • @PredatorHun87
    @PredatorHun87 Год назад +1

    And this kind of storytelling is why I like HW1 more than HW2. Too much mysticism there imo.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +1

      As MandaloreGaming noted, HW2 sure felt like The Rise of Skywalker all over again.
      Hope HW3 redeems it somewhat though, not unlike how more recent Devil May Cry games redeemed DMC2.

    • @PredatorHun87
      @PredatorHun87 Год назад

      @@michaelandreipalon359 We can only hope.

  • @harryweekoshow
    @harryweekoshow Год назад

    круто